Harry Potter's Biggest Mysteries

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  • @SeanLKearns
    @SeanLKearns 7 місяців тому +424

    Herpo the foul sounds like a guy you should not lend your chapstick to.

    • @Lemaus433
      @Lemaus433 6 місяців тому +10

      Under rated comment

    • @Toxiex300
      @Toxiex300 6 місяців тому +6

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @cynaptyc
      @cynaptyc 5 місяців тому +4

      I have to agree! 😂

    • @jubed
      @jubed 3 місяці тому +2

      Great comment 😂

    • @samanthacharlton4123
      @samanthacharlton4123 3 місяці тому +1

      This one took me a minute... But it was worth the brain power

  • @alexplp8305
    @alexplp8305 4 місяці тому +118

    This is one of the very few videos of ´Harry Potter Mysteries´ across UA-cam that bases its questions on the books and tries to answer them with knowledge from the books and interviews, not only the movies. Great video, really worth watching

    • @CreaTiffany111
      @CreaTiffany111 2 місяці тому +4

      That’s probably because everyone is using AI now and the answers it gives are from the movie. Orrr because it’s easier to find a scene from a movie than a paragraph in the books. Idk though. 😁

  • @CBoy92
    @CBoy92 6 місяців тому +88

    I think you missed something regarding the Unforgivable Curses. During the class where Moody describes Avada Kedavra as "unblockable" (btw he was only talking about Avada Kedavra, neither of the others) he also says this:
    "Avada Kedavra's a curse that needs a powerful bit of magic behind it. You could all get your wands out now and point them at me and say the words, and I doubt I'd get so much as a nosebleed."
    My reading was that Avada Kedavra is like a cannonball. It takes a lot of power to make it work, but once it goes it's basically unstoppable. Even if that's not true, this line does prove that not all spells are as easily done as all the others, which is interesting by itself.

    • @arklife99
      @arklife99 2 місяці тому +1

      Well this is not true at all harry blocked it many times regardless of wand connection or soul connection if it was that powerful he wouldn't be able to stop it

    • @CBoy92
      @CBoy92 2 місяці тому +17

      @@arklife99 What do you mean "regardless of wand connection or soul connection"? Those connections are exactly why he was able to block it in the first place. He blocked it when he was a baby because of his mother's sacrifice, in the graveyard and at the Battle of the Seven Potters because of the connection between the twin wands, and at the Battle of Hogwarts because he was the true master of the Elder Wand.

    • @arklife99
      @arklife99 2 місяці тому

      @@CBoy92 okay dokey then lets try this dumbledore blocked it also with his wand ? My poiny is maybe it comes down to his skill and magical ability ?

    • @arklife99
      @arklife99 2 місяці тому

      @@CBoy92 he also didnt block as a baby he just couldn't kill harry as a baby

    • @arklife99
      @arklife99 2 місяці тому +1

      Oh and by the way just to prove im right heres your homework, a physical barrier, priori incantatem, disaperation,stunning spells all can be used to block the killing curse and this is why i dislike most copied content from others because people alot of times throw their own opinions in the mix which are wrong this man for example has lost 10 mins of video due to it being misinformation and 1 other thing as for time turners i saw a comment about you would go clinically mad from seeing yourself i.e the figure of themselves they are watching cannot see them or it would drive them insane either the past or present self would be driven to suicide and thats not exactly a normal thing to happen so we can now say 20 minutes of this video is a waste of time

  • @7daysofawkward835
    @7daysofawkward835 7 місяців тому +310

    The notebook in particular was so powerful because it had the largest amount of volde’s soul, even when he was back into a form. Everytime you split your soul to make a horcrux, you only retain half the soul. So first time you’re left with 50%, next 25%, next 12.5% so in and so forth.
    The notebook contained 50% of volde’s original soul so it was able to manifest his form best

    • @nemangame
      @nemangame 6 місяців тому +26

      Who says it's always a 50-50 split?

    • @TheDrag0nSlayer
      @TheDrag0nSlayer 6 місяців тому +4

      It was a diary, not just a notebook.

    • @resathe6760
      @resathe6760 6 місяців тому +17

      There is a theory by Supercarlinbrothers that the diary was actually not the first Horcrux but the second and that the ring was the first. I find it very compelling

    • @jdavidmoreiraify
      @jdavidmoreiraify 4 місяці тому +3

      @@nemangame ive always thought about this. might just be a random split

    • @robokill387
      @robokill387 4 місяці тому +17

      my theory is that the diary is the most powerful because of its nature as a diary - it's a book that is literally designed to store memories and for people to figuratively pour their heart and soul into, a quality that happens to work well with being a horcrux.

  • @CrazyMama75
    @CrazyMama75 6 місяців тому +37

    17:13 We repeatedly saw harry get exhausted from practicing and performing new, especially difficult, magic. Such as his extra lessons with Lupin for patronuses (sorry for rhe poor spelling), in the books he'd be physically worn out afterward each lesson and when he used rhe patronous spell in real time, aka when faced with real dementors, it's show in the text that it takes alot of mental effort and energy. Same with Snape's oculmency lessons. Even when harry summons his broom for the first twiwozard task, in the books it shows him getting tried from practicing the retreival spell with Hermione, its physically taxing (like exercise) and in the tournament itself he has to use alot of focus to summon his broom. It clearly has physical and psychological components to the magic with clear impacts on body and mind to be able to do the magic. Another example is learning to abirate, Hermione is more mentally focused so learns this skill more easily than Ron, for example, who struggles with focus.

    • @consciousprophit7692
      @consciousprophit7692 24 дні тому +3

      But those are all examples where there are outside reasons why he might be physically tired and struggling to focus. The dementors literally made him lose consciousness within moments. Every time he casts a patronus, he's dealing with dementors and trying not to pass out. With occlumency, snape was literally attacking his mind while Harry tried to force him out. Understandably mentally and physically taxing. Trying to summon his broom while being attacked by a Hungarian horn tail is so obviously physically and mentally taxing. I'm not saying this to say there is no evidence of magic being physically or mentally taxing in and of itself, but you're using obviously bad examples of Harry getting tired from using magic when there is a very clear explanation for why he's worn out in those circumstances that don't have to point to the magic he's using in and of itself.

  • @XeiDaMoKaFE
    @XeiDaMoKaFE 7 місяців тому +240

    Dumbledor basically created AI where he feeds his memories and then ask questions to validate theories

  • @aon02b
    @aon02b 6 місяців тому +21

    17:17 there are other limits defined in the series besides Gamp's Law.
    It is impossible to resurrect someone who's dead. You can save them if they're close to dying, but you cannot bring them back once they're really dead.
    Inferi are reanimated corpses, but they're not really alive.
    And even the Resurrection Stone only brings back a shadow of the person you're trying to revive, and they will eventually become sad and despairing because they don't belong in the world of the living.
    You also cannot make someone love you.
    You can make love potions or enchant someone, but those things only create a sort of infatuation or obsession; never true love. And the person will stop feeling those things as soon as the enchantment is lifted.
    Dumbledore talks about love as if it is a very powerful type of magic.
    And it doesn't seem unreasonable to suppose that the creation of life and consciousness is also a type of magic in this universe.
    So, if that's the case, then it seems to me that the only limits to magic are even more powerful sources of magic.

  • @dorston.graves
    @dorston.graves 7 місяців тому +30

    I suspect the bit of Voldy in the snake is quite happy where it resides. The bit of him in Harry is probably at a minimum uncomfortable and more likely in perpetual agony. A loveless fragment of soul embedded in one as loving as Harry…not pleasant for the soul I think. The pain Harry feels at its excitement/hope of returning to its master are the fleetingly few moments it is in less pain than normal. I would imagine.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +4

      Ah yeah interesting thought, it’s not content with Harry, but it might be with nagini. It’s also mentioned that Harry’s horcrux is incomplete or imperfect because of the nature of its creation.

    • @IzFab
      @IzFab 4 місяці тому +2

      @@VaultLoreI think Nagina consented to becoming a horcrux, where as Harry obviously didn’t

  • @NyamatsatseWacho
    @NyamatsatseWacho 7 місяців тому +52

    Harry's parseltongue conversation in the zoo in the introductory chapters of the first book is an early clue that's only confirmed after Snape's passing. Harry was also a horcrux.

  • @joelmavity1467
    @joelmavity1467 7 місяців тому +21

    Two mysteries I’m curious about are 1. Wands changing ownership. How does that equate to Expelliarmus? Why does it work in some cases but not others? And 2. If ghosts can’t interact with the physical world, how does Binns collect and grade homework? There is no mention of a living teacher’s aide anywhere? And for that matter, how does he turn the pages of his notes?

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +6

      Good questions! Might do a viewer questions special at some point.

    • @stargate525
      @stargate525 2 місяці тому +1

      If you actually try and plot out the classes (IE, get every house for every year into an appropriate-length session for every class, including electives), you quickly run into issues especially with your core subjects in that you simply run out of teachers and time in the day. This goes doubly so if you treat the school as 'around a thousand' students instead of the 300-400 you'd expect if Harry's year is typical.
      There's only 13 or 14 teaching positions we see. That's a teacher:student ratio of 1 to 20 at BEST. Most regular schools want to operate at 1:15 to 1:20, much less boarding schools where teachers ALSO need to be full time on call authority figures. Much less ones which issue high-powered weapons to every student.

    • @Crafty_Spirit
      @Crafty_Spirit Місяць тому

      Ghosts can seemingly interact enough with the world to speak audibly, for which you have to manipulate the flow of air... so maybe they could also turn book pages?

  • @hardtfelt
    @hardtfelt 7 місяців тому +416

    I'm glad you brought up pensieve since so many people miss the pun. JK likes to have words that sound like other words but are spelled differently - Umbridge/umbrage, Knockturn/nocturne, Diagon Alley/diagonally, etc. The movies and so many people make a mistake pronouncing it 'penSEEVE' - we have a word 'sieve' (a strainer) and many if not most people pronounce it as 'siv,' and we also have the word 'pensive' meaning thoughtful as in thinking a lot, and that word is pronounces 'PENsiv' - so that would be the double meaning of the word, so yes, you're saying it right, PENsieve sounding like pensive. So glad to get that off my chest.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +28

      Yeah! I kind of wondered if the “seeve” pronunciation was a reference to sort of sifting through memories like a sieve (like sifting for gold)

    • @j-rey-
      @j-rey- 7 місяців тому +12

      @@VaultLore "Sieve" is pronounced like "siv" though, so the "seeve" pronunciation isn't a reference to a sieve.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +5

      TIL

    • @bw5363
      @bw5363 7 місяців тому +16

      I feel like almost everyone caught the obvious commonalities in words

    • @AshtonRogers-se1zj
      @AshtonRogers-se1zj 7 місяців тому +3

      Damn. I TOTALLY missed that pun. AND Diagon Alley!
      Jeez! I feel like SUCH a dumbass right now! It would be one thing if I didn't particularly care for puns. But I LOVE puns!
      ...I just don't have anything to say for myself...

  • @logangb
    @logangb 7 місяців тому +57

    Regarding the time turner, it surprises me to hear that some people would think that Harry meant he would’ve gone clinically insane, I always had assumed everyone knew he was speaking figuratively.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +4

      I think a lot of people think that’s what dumbledore wanted to impress on them. That it could literally drive you insane

    • @CreaTiffany111
      @CreaTiffany111 2 місяці тому +3

      It’s weird to me that in a magical place like Hogwarts or anywhere in the wizard world that this would be such a surprising event. In a place where anything is possible. I would think most adult wizards would even know the time turners exist. I guess what could drive someone crazy would be if your future self came to you on purpose and told you some kind of news or needed you to change something. I guess something like that could drive someone crazy but just seeing yourself from the future in a place where magic is all around shouldn’t be that surprising.

  • @ajax201000
    @ajax201000 7 місяців тому +24

    Dumbledore had the invisibility cloak because he asked james if he could borrow it as he wanted to study it and confirm it was one of the hallows

  • @coolbrotherf127
    @coolbrotherf127 5 місяців тому +14

    I don't think Harry meant that everyone who sees themselves using a time turner would go mad. He specifically says "I think I'd have gone mad." Which is a common British phrase to describe being very confused.

  • @quartkneek3670
    @quartkneek3670 7 місяців тому +39

    Alongside the idea that spells and incantations are discovered, not created, I think one of the reasons there are limits on magic - like they can't make food - has to do with the fact that they don't actually create anything. As magicians, they can only manipulate materials. Their magic is about physical stuff. Even the destruction and death they dish out operate on the physical plain. Meanwhile, Sorcerers operate in the deeper realms of creation, tapping into the fundamental magic of life. Music and love are mentioned as two examples of forms of magic that are much more powerful than anything taught at Hogwarts and both are intrinsically linked to creativity and life. The best the magicians can do is create an ersatz love via a potion but the side effects are often destructive and backfire on the witch or wizard that employed it.

    • @HeatherDavis-k9b
      @HeatherDavis-k9b 7 місяців тому

      Tom Riddle Sr was a victim of a love potion. Once Tom Riddles's mum had stopped using the potion in the hopes that he would love her without its effects, but instead, he left both her and the infant Tom Riddle Jr. Who would later go on later in life to change his name to Lord Voldermort

    • @SOSULLI
      @SOSULLI 5 місяців тому

      They can only manipulate material, I'm not sure what you mean? Two out of the three unforgivable curses aren't physical. Or am I confusing this with your comments on sorcery? I vaguely remember how Harry responded to the crucio spell, like it felt his bones were on fire and it was so painful he simply wanted to die, however all this was purely emotional. Like all that intense pain manifested in emotions.

    • @lynall-zi9yj
      @lynall-zi9yj 5 місяців тому +4

      I love the word "ersatz". Not used often enough

  • @mattwhelan13
    @mattwhelan13 5 місяців тому +9

    You reminding me of the Dumbledore quote about having 2 Hallows all to himself got me thinking about one of the biggest plot points that I think should have been made fully canon. In book 6, he has the wand and the stone after he retrieves the ring. He explicitly instructs Harry to carry his cloak with him at all times, including within the castle which just so happens to include during their private lessons. As such, Dumbledore is the first person to willfully unite the Hallows and who is waiting for Harry when he "dies" to explain whats going on and offer him a way back, it's Dumbledore, the master of death

  • @CucumberBat227
    @CucumberBat227 7 місяців тому +112

    I don't think that wingardium leviosa necessarily requires more skill or experience to lift heavier obects, but rather they used the feathers in class as a safety precaution. If a first year manages to levitate the feather high enough then "loses" it, the feather would just float back down. If they practiced with heavier objects then that could lead to students getting clobbered on the head.

    • @kirotama793
      @kirotama793 7 місяців тому +19

      He said that in the video fam

    • @winterrain1947
      @winterrain1947 4 місяці тому

      *clobbered
      You make that sound funny even though it would not be funny to get clobbered even by a small metallic object

    • @UGLY-MONEY17
      @UGLY-MONEY17 3 місяці тому

      Didn’t he say that exact thing in the video?

  • @koralinaeldon9525
    @koralinaeldon9525 5 місяців тому +10

    What if the veil is a doorway to the realm of death, and was the origin of the deathly hallows? Maybe it was the location Death was brought into the world. A scar on reality that can't heal

  • @pucklebearry
    @pucklebearry 7 місяців тому +11

    Horcruxes-- a popular fan theory is that there is a whole ritual that involves committing cold blooded unapologetic vindictive murder and you have to actually complete the ritual for that broken piece of your soul to be removed from the rest and inserted into something else, which always gets interesting when we get around to explaining "Okay, then how did Harry become one without completing the ritual."
    I think part of the ritual and what makes it so cruel is the torture aspect.
    What reason did Tom really have to open the Chamber? To prove to other slytherins he's the heir? That would be solved as soon as he spoke to a snake in front of the house. To terrorize the school for funzies? He doesnt WANT to go back to Wool's Orphanage in the middle of the Blitz of London! Thats why he pins it on Hagrid, because he doesn't WANT the school closed. He still has an attachment to Hogwarts I think at this point.
    He had to have openned the chamber for a better reason that, and AYE like to think part of what makes the murder so vile, is the amount of torture and distress you have to put your sacrifice through beforehand. Imagine how Myrtle must have felt- slytherin's monster running around the school petrifying muggleborns.. SHE'S a muggleborn... she's also being mercilessly bullied by Olive Hornby and her friends every day for her glasses and her voice and the fact she was already getting acne, and she can't go home. She was tortured, emotionally, every day at Hogwarts, until the day she died. She was even crying and hiding alone in the bathroom when she died. She wasn't just a random girl who caught the basilisk's gaze by accident, she was mentally and emotionally broken down, scared, isolated, and absolutely miserable. Killing her, at what to her likely felt like the height of her distress, was an act of vindictive cruelty.
    I think this works with Harry becoming a Horcrux, because when I think about Lily's death, it is also excessively cruel. Her husband told her to run, to get to Harry. She can hear him try to fight voldemort off, and then can hear it when his body hits the ground. She knows James is dead when she gets to Harry's room. And then, before her one year old baby, she begs, pleads, CRIES, desperately, over and over again to 'PLEASE Don't hurt her Harry, please, take her instead if you must, just don't hurt Harry!'
    And when voldemort kills her, he not only breaks what could have potentially been a magically binding promise to snape (COULD HAVE, its not clear enough), he does it knowing all of Lily's cries are in vain. In fact, part of him probably takes pleasure in it. Her death is also a vindictive cruel release from what is likely the most terrifying and monstrous experience of her entire life. I solidly believe this aspect of terror is part of the Horcrux's ritual process and why it sets it aside from other cold blooded murder acts he's committed.
    Scar Pain- I think it's Lily's protection. The interesting thing about his scar is that the "lightening bolt" is in the shape of a nordic rune- the Sowilo Rune. This rune represents the sun, or "light." It represents vitality, will, hope and of victory. The god of the Sun in nordic or old germanic peoples was a GodDESS, she was feminine, a nurturer. When I was a kid, the idea of "Love" saving harry seemed so stupid to me, but Lily begged for Harry's life THREE TIMES before he died, and no living horcrux was recorded before Harry- I think it's safe to say the scar and voldemorts soul being trapped there is her protection, stopping the soul piece from spreading OR "returning to it's master."

    • @pucklebearry
      @pucklebearry 7 місяців тому +2

      The cloak- I subscribe to the concept that Dumbledore is a meddlesome old fool who, despite his good intentions, has a serious case of tunnel vision for his own pursuits and that of "the greater good." His exerpt in the book explaining how he asked james to borrow it without clearly stating why just kinda supports that.
      The veil- I don't have a theory on the veil itself, other than it's likely a relic from times long past, maybe before or during Merlin times-- it reminds me of Nimue and the ancient magic surrounding the lake or just herself depending on which version of the story you favor. I think the Department of Mysteries found it in their territory and somehow moved it? Or the entire building was built around it in an attempt to covet the unknown and that's how the location for the Ministry was determined. That WOULD be the entire nature of the Department of Mysteries-- coveting dangerous and unknown magical artifacts that can't be trusted to be left to the general public's hands and I really wouldn't put it past the government deciding it would be a smarter move to keep building more layers and departments up around it rather than keep it in an undisclosed separate location where they would NEVER be able to get that many levels of security around it.

    • @pucklebearry
      @pucklebearry 7 місяців тому +2

      Magical Limits- There's actually a popular fan theory that the reason there doesn't seem to be an obvious "drain" of energy when someone uses too much magic (that can't be explained by something else happening at the same time) is because in the books, most of the characters we're reading about performing magic are children and it stands to reason that kids are just much more flexible in their developmental years than adults. Especially since there are multiple points in the books where a character says something to the affect of, "So-and-so said only a really powerful wizard could have cast that," indicating that a weaker person would not have been able to cast and they don't exactly go over the ramifications of trying to cast a spell you genuinely don't have the power for- rather they just touch on how the spell can go haywire if not cast properly.
      Not to mention, with there being such a stigma around dark magic, there is another popular fan theory that "light magic" manipulates the magic around you and causes less of a strain on the individual, while "dark magic" requires a magic and innate desire from within yourself, which causes it to be more addictive to cast, thus more dangerous, and there for slid down the slippery slope of being "bad." The only "light" spell I can remember in the books that required actual emotion and force behind it was Expecto Patronum, which was literally to counteract what?? A DARK CREATURE.

    • @pucklebearry
      @pucklebearry 7 місяців тому +1

      Time turners- The part I don't like about the time turner thing and her "removing them from the world," is they're brought back in the cursed child briefly, so clearly the implications don't bother jkr NEARLY as much as she'd like to suggest bc she gave the Cursed Child the big phat green stamp of approval. Either commit to the issues they bring or dont lol.
      I feel like the existence and restrictions on Time turners are pretty easy to explain too-- just utilize Unspeakable's and how they run all types of magical experiments the GP have no idea about, some that dont even see the light of day bc they're determined to be too dangerous. I always assumed the time turners were a result of their experiments as soon as they were briefly mentioned in the books, I don't get it.
      And yeah, the going mad thing? Remember how Hermione looked at Harry like he was fucking crazy when he said, "My dad is going to show up, right there, just you watch." He seemed, "mad" to her, because he literally could not process everything he was seeing when he saw himself casting a Patronus and went with the most logical explanation he could come up with at the time. Imagine how fucked up things would have been if at the last moment Harry didn't realize it was HIM who cast the patronus across the black lake and instead he watched his past self DIE?

    • @pucklebearry
      @pucklebearry 7 місяців тому +1

      I like your take on the silver instrument, I've actually never thought about it.
      I do know it was McGonagall or Snape who made a comment about him being raised like a pig for slaughter, and that line rings truer every time I think about it- bc he apparently knew in Harry's second year but tells Harry he "didn't know for certain until now" in Harry's sixth lol.
      New Spells- I think latin phrases just make it easier for witches and wizards to visualize or manipulate the magic in the way they desire-- I think of a bow n arrow; technically you can hit a target with just the arrow if you know how to throw it but the right string on that bow (or the latin phrases in this analogy) it makes it much easier to aim and shoot, even if you have no idea what the arrow will do or where it'll hit.
      Also there is definitely a more technical aspect to it JKR just never dives into, like what makes you need to perform a ritual over just regularly casting a spell with your wand- JKR never even touched on Sabbats and Estbots (which ties heavily into Astronomy, which is taught at Hogwarts) beyond just the purebloods resenting muggleborns for pushing those magical traditions out of popularity for the sake of their evangelical celebrations. I don't think JKR ever really wanted to explain how magic spells are actually created because she never planned on any of her main characters being creative enough to do so where the reader/viewer an see.

    • @pucklebearry
      @pucklebearry 7 місяців тому +1

      First Wizards - I think either they have always coexisted, as magic has always existed, or muggles came first and the the "first wizards" are what muggles considered children of the gods-- it would explain mythological stories held onto in the muggle world about people like Hercules performing such great feats or how people believed Egyptian Pharaohs were descendants of Ra and that's why they were chosen to be Pharaoh for example.
      I think it would be cool if the muggles were wrong about "people of the time believed these people were descendants of gods, but obviously there isn't much evidence to support this (and sometimes we'll even cast doubt on if the person actually existed at all for good measure)," because all the evidence is locked behind a Statute of Secrecy.

  • @luminousignesia372
    @luminousignesia372 7 місяців тому +37

    i would think that the ancient witches and wizards would have had unimaginably hard to control magic and by limiting themselves to using wands and incantations they became able to control it better but lost a lot of the potency and freedom wizards have almost certainly had magic from the dawn of man but probably no control for a long time and that would be why no one knows the origins of magic that would also explain why the founders of hogwarts are so important as they were likely some of the first wizards and witches to have wands and wanted to teach others how to control their magic most likely due to witch hunts and things like that also explaining why wizards are so hellbent on being secret

  • @DrFranklynAnderson
    @DrFranklynAnderson 5 місяців тому +11

    Time turners: the power to rewrite reality, given to a 13-year-old girl so she could attend more classes at school. 😂 Could have solved a lot of problems by saying the max you can go back is 12 hours and you’re stuck in a one-mile radius.

  • @ccannon1
    @ccannon1 4 місяці тому +7

    19:38 they were probably using feathers to avoid accidents. Harry says in the 4th book when they were doing the banishing charms, that professor flitwick used pillows in case the students sent them off course

  • @auntieclara1811
    @auntieclara1811 7 місяців тому +27

    I'm old and love Harry Potter. The older I get the more I love the movies, the books the on life stuff. When I can't figure something out I just say, it's magic.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +2

      Haha that’s a fair and decent way to approach life I’d say

    • @ofthegrayfortress
      @ofthegrayfortress 4 місяці тому +1

      yes

  • @Amateracu1991DFFOO
    @Amateracu1991DFFOO 7 місяців тому +78

    I've read these books more than 6 times each and I never wondered how horcruxes are made. After watching your video and Rowling's answer I think I have a theory that is very close to the answer. So here it goes:
    As you said, there are a few "steps" one must take to create a horcrux and killing someone is one of those steps. We certainly can't know what the steps before the murder can be, I'm guessing are a bunch of dark spells to prepare your soul for splitting, but I think I know what the final step is for splitting your soul.
    Think about it, Voldemort had created multiple horcruxes before his encounter with baby Harry and yet that night Voldemort ended up creating another horcrux unknowingly, which means all the steps were met. So here's what I believe, the final step for creating a horcrux is to kill yourself, to commit suicide and when that happens instead of dying a part of your soul flies to whatever item you have prepared to make into a horcrux, which is also symbolic if you think about it, in order to cheat death you should be willing to die.
    The night Harry lived Voldemort had already made the preparations for splitting his soul once again, knowing he would meet the murder requirement by killing Harry and his parents. Thanks to Lily's sacrifice though, Voldemort's spell, which was Avada Kedavra, bounced back at him therefore "killing" him and completing the process of making a horcrux. As Dumbledore said that part of Voldemort's soul attached to the first thing it could find which was Harry himself.
    Tell me what you think!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +12

      Oh woah, that’s actually the first time I’ve ever heard that. Fascinating! I’ll have to dig a little deeper, not sure how it aligns with the other times we’ve seen horcrux made (Nagini) cool thought!

    • @SerahBeelzebub
      @SerahBeelzebub 6 місяців тому +9

      Cool theory and the logic seems very sound. Couldn't have thought it prior to this comment. However it immediately brought me back to how Voldy is terrified of the thought of dying. If the way to have immortality included killing himself I think he would have given up on even attempting it. Or possibly he accidentally did it the first time because he was almost dying and thought fck it and attempted it on his diary

    • @gabriellagrant3890
      @gabriellagrant3890 6 місяців тому +1

      Such a chilling theory I love it!

    • @xaikken
      @xaikken 6 місяців тому +7

      I actually this is better than whatever rowling is keeping secret lol

    • @malicemacey
      @malicemacey 6 місяців тому +2

      This is a great theory. You've convinced me

  • @Loganberry
    @Loganberry 7 місяців тому +26

    Love these long videos. As a big Potter fan I really appreciate all your hard work. Hope your channel gets the recognition it deserves! Great research and presentation style.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching! Glad you’re liking the content! :)

  • @gawkthimm6030
    @gawkthimm6030 7 місяців тому +35

    there is a really well written fanfic where Hermionies backstory is very different and the story is told from her perspective as a muggle-born "science-inclined" person, she is persuaded by the sorting hat into slytherin and becomes a loner who constantly experiments with the limits of magic as she deliberately strives towards fully understanding magic as a science and revolutionizing its usages as her sole ambition.

    • @elphiene
      @elphiene 6 місяців тому +2

      do you know what it’s called? this sounds awesome!!!

    • @TheCosmicCrow
      @TheCosmicCrow 6 місяців тому +9

      ​@@elphieneHarry Potter and the Methods of Rationality. Don't know why Gawk thought it's from Hermione's perspective but it isn't.

    • @MathematicPony
      @MathematicPony 6 місяців тому +4

      Can confirm this sounds exactly like Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality which is about if petunia had married a biochemist instead of Vernon, leading HARRY to grow up on science fiction and become very science-inclined.

    • @st0rmyeyes
      @st0rmyeyes 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@traps-wg3gt it's Harry potter and the methods of rationality

    • @CreaTiffany111
      @CreaTiffany111 2 місяці тому

      That’s interesting. Would be interesting to think of that being her future though. That’s definitely possible.

  • @bengeoghegan9808
    @bengeoghegan9808 Місяць тому +4

    when you said you were making your way to 10k subs i had to double take. your content is so high end, your voice so captivating i just assumed you had been doing this for years with millions of subs. well done mate

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  Місяць тому +1

      Hey I appreciate it! It’s slow growth, but subscribers mean less and less on UA-cam nowadays. Next stop 100k so I can get a cool plaque! Thanks for watching!

  • @billalee3230
    @billalee3230 7 місяців тому +33

    I love hearing the way other people's brain works

  • @bryceleitzinger
    @bryceleitzinger 6 місяців тому +17

    For the first one, i'm surprised you didn't mention slughorn. In half blood prince when tom riddle asks slughorn about horcruxes, Slughorn says "there is a spell, don't ask me i don't know".

  • @alphacraig4784
    @alphacraig4784 7 місяців тому +45

    The students probably use feathers because if they accidentally drop it it can't hurt someone.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +4

      Too true 🏋️

    • @kennedyshotfirst2534
      @kennedyshotfirst2534 7 місяців тому +8

      Obviously not true, because that would imply that safety is taken into consideration at hogwarts.

    • @lc4822
      @lc4822 Місяць тому

      In transfiguration the kids progress from like snails to mice, specifically saying that more complex animals require more effort - makes sense that charms would progress similarly through for example differently weighted objects.

  • @axelliasteel
    @axelliasteel 5 місяців тому +5

    I’m glad you brought up eragon, a good series but it does explain the difference between the magic systems

  • @lilbobross
    @lilbobross 3 місяці тому +5

    "does james know its a deathly hallow?" - then quotes an excerpt from the book that shows that only dumbledore knows it was a hallow. james probably did not know.

  • @danielwindle7441
    @danielwindle7441 7 місяців тому +25

    As far as the veil goes id imagine since luna heard voices because she had great faith, mabe wizards with faith gathered there to try to communicate with the after life and listen to the voices

    • @neverstopschweiking
      @neverstopschweiking 7 місяців тому +3

      She was also the one who had seen her mother die probably not that long ago. It is very likely she would be ready to talk to her mother and that her mother would be very willing to talk to her, both of them were opened to trying out various weird and extreme types of magic... yes, she is the best candidate to hear the most through the veil.

    • @IzFab
      @IzFab 4 місяці тому

      I LOVE this theory!

  • @Nexii801
    @Nexii801 4 місяці тому +5

    1. Avada Kedavra is the only unforgivable that's magically unblockable. With no counter. The others can likely be blocked just fine.
    2. Gamps Law only refers to transfiguration.

  • @ChinoWantan
    @ChinoWantan 7 місяців тому +7

    I'd always thought JKR just have to say that Timeturners need to be set to "record" the time of certain limited area to work. So Hermione (or any wizard for that matter) activelt setted the TT at the beginning of each school day so she can rewind time later

  • @miketheburns
    @miketheburns 7 місяців тому +26

    when first reading the books, I always figured making a horcrux involved cannibalism, given the "death-EATING" and all. And then when Rowling said it involved something "unspeakable" and "the worst thing you can imagine", I felt it was either that or necrophelia. To explain the accidental horcrux in Harry, it would mean that Voldie took a bite out of James or maybe in the killing of Lily, some of her blood got in Voldie's mouth? Or that the horcrux in that instance did NOT involve literal consuming of flesh, but perhaps the love protection meant Voldie consumed a bit of her soul (the part protecting Harry). Or maybe just when he died, his soul was so fragile that it split in two pieces instead of just dying, and one piece latched on to Harry. The necrophelia part could also hold up as when he killed James and then Lily while trying to kill Harry, something about the sexual link between the three might have come into play.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +5

      Yeah, I also think it’s one of those two things, though she never outright says either.

    • @WeWereTheStorm
      @WeWereTheStorm 7 місяців тому +4

      I think it’s the later. I don’t think Harry is a full Horcrux.

    • @acewickhamyoshi8330
      @acewickhamyoshi8330 7 місяців тому

      Well.., as australian ,,. & grown up with same deleated part of british literature & other things ,,. horcrux in essense is about a disposed person who like peverell cousins ,. wondered why a sellected member of family disappears ( invisibility cloak...) but tom riddle & dumbledores brother . bot witnessed a horcrux event .. like Leticia Lestrange dying .. but both were too unlearned .. not trained in currupted wizard politics ,,.. unmarried to the state ,,.. the person craving their high social status... Tom was hidden english aorphige .. & knew his life was connected ,, so by finding his dad ,,.?? he was re ~married to the liniege..,, but..

    • @najpotenicewolf934
      @najpotenicewolf934 6 місяців тому +6

      Cannibalism seems more likely due to the circumstances. Mostly because I'm not sure how the other one would occur for Harry to become a Horcrux. While of course it would never be included or even implied in the books, I also did not feel that Voldie had any lust for Lily (or James...). Both were more of just an obstacle for him. I just kind of can't see it happening considering Voldie probably have gone to kill Harry right after killing Lily.

    • @flyingwambulance
      @flyingwambulance 19 днів тому

      ​@@najpotenicewolf934 Given it's books for children, it is most likely cannibalism. Say what you want about cannibalism but it makes much more sense than necro stuff.

  • @zaidalvi-r2l
    @zaidalvi-r2l 7 місяців тому +124

    FiNALLY! a harry potter video that isn't a 10 hour video essay about how its the worst thing in existence

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +8

      :)

    • @bullets1x99
      @bullets1x99 7 місяців тому +6

      I definitely agree I’ve watched other channels too strait to the point I like that

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for watching you both! I appreciate it!

    • @troublewithweebles
      @troublewithweebles 7 місяців тому +5

      Harry Potter Theory is another good channel😊

    • @MachtPlays
      @MachtPlays 7 місяців тому +4

      SuperCarlinBros for good HP videos. They’ve covered everything.

  • @leama046
    @leama046 6 місяців тому +9

    I think the scar would only hurt Harry because he wasn't meant to be a horcrux. The other items wouldn't yern to be with the master as they were put there on purpose unlike Harry.

  • @kxngklizhy9185
    @kxngklizhy9185 6 місяців тому +4

    I have been searching for harry potter mysteries, HOW DID I MISS UR CHANNEL?! Your videos are so so good!!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  6 місяців тому +1

      Glad you found it! Welcome to the channel!

  • @Smalltown_Man
    @Smalltown_Man 4 місяці тому +6

    If you think about it, there should be way more horcruxes in the world. Why wouldn't most evil wizards/witches split their souls as a backup policy. I get that was what made Voldemort so scary, but like that should definitely be a main thing most villains should do

    • @brotbrotsen1100
      @brotbrotsen1100 2 місяці тому +1

      Would have made more sense if this was a kind of Magic Voldemort himself developed and kept to himself.

    • @Smalltown_Man
      @Smalltown_Man 2 місяці тому +1

      @@brotbrotsen1100 it would have added to the mystery of his powers. "The dark lord that can't be killed" it also would have made it more interesting with how Ron Harry and Harmonie would have to first figure out the source of his power, then neutralize them to get to him.

  • @nicolasbailey4180
    @nicolasbailey4180 7 місяців тому +9

    Would love it if you did some Eragon videos! They're super hard to find and would love to see some in your style! Eragon was my favorite growing up! With Harry Potter coming in second!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +4

      Haha I will add it to the list! I loved eragon growing up

  • @SwordHandler222
    @SwordHandler222 7 місяців тому +25

    Timeturners CANNOT change things that have already happened because Harry Potter follows the CLOSED LOOP rules of time travel. I don't know how JK Rowling doesn't understand her own rules she implemented. They didn't actually change anything in the past in prisoner of Azkaban. Yes it would be useful to have two of yourself to face threats in certain scenarios, but you could NEVER undo anything bad that happens. So this kind of time travel does not create plot holes.

    • @strisselstudios3932
      @strisselstudios3932 2 місяці тому +1

      But how is it a closed loop, when buckbeak clearly dies in the past, but not the future they change?

    • @SwordHandler222
      @SwordHandler222 2 місяці тому +3

      @@strisselstudios3932 Buckbeak did not clearly die in the past. They witness the executioner swing his axe and they assume he was killing Buckbeak, but actually he was just slicing a pumpkin out of frustration since Buckbeak was missing.

  • @huntercoleherr
    @huntercoleherr 7 місяців тому +21

    I don't get why the Time Turner is so universally regarded as an issue.
    The story makes it very clear that you can't actually change the past. The timeline in Harry Potter is entirely linear; any alterations you make to the timeline were already baked into the timeline before you went back. There's no way to actually change events, because the alterations you intend to make have already happened.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +6

      But the alterations only happen because you go back in the first place

    • @H41030v3rki110ny0u
      @H41030v3rki110ny0u 7 місяців тому

      ​@@VaultLoreand then it's kind of like... Well, what's the point then??? It's like the 'waking up from a dream' trope...

    • @FumblsTheSniper
      @FumblsTheSniper 6 місяців тому

      I think the idea is that if you use the time turner in one set of conditions it is considered safe but once it becomes intentional to change things you are at risk of disappearing into the universe (mentally).
      So Hermione, because she was a meticulous and trustworthy student, was allowed to use the time turner as a study aid with the condition it wouldn’t be used outside of getting to more classes. The moment she tried to use it otherwise it was only with great caution not to change anything.
      Basically after that incident there is no way for her, or anyone with knowledge of the situation, to use one safely. Intention seems to be an integral part of magic within the universe.

    • @Grausel
      @Grausel 4 місяці тому

      They got written out of story, with a single sentence... ALL of them got destroyed, because J.K. didn't want to write explanations on why they won't be used on anything crucial. Very similiar to the luck potion. Never mentioned again in book seven. Why isn't anyone taking a few drops or a spoon, before a fight? It is utter nonsense, like most of the story

    • @Zabadev
      @Zabadev 4 місяці тому +1

      ⁠​⁠@@GrauselObviously it’s nonsense because it’s magic. If she would try to rationalize all magic and quirks it wouldn’t be entertaining. From the beginning it was a children’s book. A story of an abused boy who got to enter a magical world. It’s escapism, fantasy not whatever ur trying to twist it into. It’s mentioned in book 3 by hermione that time turning is breaking one of the most important wizarding laws obviously acknowledging the complexity of the trope and wrote it off realizing she’s biting off more than the story could chew. It had its purpose and that’s that. I’m not reading a book about the rationale of time travel. She still had an over arching theme and rationale of the story that’s compelling enough for what it is.

  • @stargate525
    @stargate525 2 місяці тому +2

    I think the 'you can't block an unforgivable' just means it doesn't have a MAGICAL counter. You can still dodge them, intercept them, or otherwise destroy the spell en route to target physically.
    Magically, they're... the equivalent of armor piercing rounds, basically. The projectile will go through any armor you put up against it, but you still need to hit the target, and you can't shoot through a hill.

  • @ChainNonSmoker
    @ChainNonSmoker Місяць тому +2

    Dumbledore lifting the whole ministry of magic building into the air.. that's something I would've liked to see.

  • @fatsumo
    @fatsumo 4 місяці тому +4

    Nice vid. To be honest with you, a lot of these things aren't terribly necessary to the core plot and themes of the story... I understand the need for in-world laws and logistical consistency, but sometimes the critique from fans goes too far, particularly in stories with worlds as dense as this. I appreciate the fandom's attention to the mythos and lore all the same. It's fun to dive into theoreticals and hyper-analyze the story, I just also think being left in the dark about flabbergast snugglefuzzle is not a point of criticism for the series haha

  • @karlbergen6826
    @karlbergen6826 4 місяці тому +3

    I've noted in the movies at least that Voldemort and Snape have some sort of nonverbal spell that makes ordinary defensive spell disappear. It's also wandless. It seems to be done with wands and hands.

  • @Girly_Plop
    @Girly_Plop 7 місяців тому +2

    You should 100% make a bigger video about the rules of magic within the universe. I haven’t seen it done before and I think your analysis in Magic Limits was fantastic.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому

      Good idea!! And thank you!

  • @leahellyson
    @leahellyson 7 місяців тому +4

    Great video! And you have a very calm, relaxing voice. You should do a few sleep stories!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +2

      That could be good! I thought about doing a few and making a playlist for them. Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @leahellyson
      @leahellyson 7 місяців тому +2

      @@VaultLore you definitely should! I would watch them for sure!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +1

      Just like random short stories?

    • @propogandalf
      @propogandalf 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@VaultLoreHi, I've just stumbled upon your channel but I'd be interested as well. There's another channel that does some sleep fantasy stories, like an immersive ride on the Hogwarts express. Maybe you can read some short fanfics with permission or you can use AI to create and tweak a story on a topic you like. I'd be down to help generate content if you're interested.

  • @Mors_Umber
    @Mors_Umber 3 місяці тому +1

    Subscribed. It's always a pleasure to find channels like these.

  • @CurtisWD
    @CurtisWD 7 місяців тому +7

    I’m hoping someday we will have a series about the founders of Hogwarts.

    • @emmiexrose
      @emmiexrose Місяць тому

      The channel MovieFlame did a phenomenal one, Morgan is probably the most knowledgeable channel about all things Wizarding World and he’s book loyal but still includes info from the films, honestly the most incredible channel!

  • @Claponclapoff
    @Claponclapoff 4 місяці тому +2

    Love the video man, good stuff. Subbed!

  • @DoeFoot
    @DoeFoot 7 місяців тому +8

    Looking forward to watching this on my walk tomorrow ❤

  • @hopelessnihilist1425
    @hopelessnihilist1425 7 місяців тому +9

    If i had a time turner, id use it to catch all the buses i miss. Granted, if i had a time turner i could probably apperate. so maybe id use it to shop sales ive missed 😂

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +4

      haha yeah i feel like I would constantly be going back in time to see where I left my keys.

    • @hopelessnihilist1425
      @hopelessnihilist1425 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@VaultLoreohhh you're into something here

  • @SEMIA123
    @SEMIA123 Місяць тому +2

    So, thinking about Horcrux creation and how harry became one, I do think that the way that a horcrux is traditionally created is Cannibalism but I don't think that its the act specifically, so much as it is the sheer inhumanity of the act that sort of "charges up" the dark magic needed to split your soul, and I also think that you need to Avada Kedavera yourself as part of the ritual, functioning kind of like an axe splitting wood. Basically you need to commit crimes that are completely beyond absolution in order to sharpen or refine Avada, then you need to use it on yourself. This offers a general explanation for how horcruxes are made, provides a reason for how harry became a Horcrux without an act of cannibalism, and also offers justification as to why no one else seemingly has ever tried it: Voldemort went above and beyond your typical murder with the Potters and performed enough heinous acts to unknowingly initiate a horcrux ritual, and everyone who has previously attempted a horcrux between herpo and voldy have died because they don't take it far enough, or they don't "mean it" when they cast Avada Kedavera on themselves.
    1) Voldemort had the potters betrayed by peter, and he betrayed snape by murdering a woman that wasn't fighting back which he promised not to kill and then he attempts to murder an innocent child, possibly something he hadn't done up to this point. The death of the people who actually fought against him were practically just byproducts of the real reason he was there, unrepentant child killing in the name of future self preservation. When you take all of these, it may have resulted in him accidentally creating an equivalent amount of dark magic charged up as an act of cannibalism would have, and then he accidentally completes the ritual when the avada kedavera rebounds onto him. Perhaps if Harry didn't have Lillies protection, instead of dying he would have had his soul split?
    2) Most dark wizards probably don't want to attempt making a horcrux because of the inherent risk, and everyone that have attempted it don't perform a vile enough act and/or don't put enough meaning into the curse for it to work since you need to "really mean it" when casting avada, and probably doubly so if you're doing it to yourself. Many dark wizards likely lacked the willpower that voldemort possessed, and theres probably a mountain of dark wizards that accidentally kermitted sewer slide between Herpo and Voldemort that either didn't commit heinous enough acts or didn't put enough power into the Avada they cast on themselves for the ritual to work. When voldemort used AK on harry, he really meant it because as far as he knew this kid was the single most dangerous threat to his power ever.
    Also, a lot of them probably just thought it was BS. I mean, honestly, a ritual where you cast the killing curse on yourself in order to live forever? Yeah ok, sure dude. Mew is also under the truck, yeah?

  • @OlShaky
    @OlShaky 14 днів тому +1

    I've never seen one of your videos. UA-cam just recommended it to me. Not even really a Harry Potter fans (I love the movies). All that to say GREAT VIDEOS I'm SUBSCRIBING for sure!

  • @Zuko865
    @Zuko865 2 місяці тому +1

    Keep the content up brother love listening while at work ❤️

  • @Hyper_Gogeta
    @Hyper_Gogeta 6 місяців тому +1

    18:50 My guess is that they started with feathers so that they wouldn't crush to death anyone by mucking up the spell. Also, it allows for an easier class since they don't need to go outside to lift big objects and they are easier to oversee everyone for the teacher. Also, you need to remember that the movies take place over a year. One scene can take place in january, and the next can take place in February, so there will be improvements between scenes as time passes. They just don't point this out.
    You can apply this logic to a lot of other classes too.

  • @OfficialRobFury
    @OfficialRobFury 7 місяців тому +2

    Great vids man. Def a subscriber. Keep it up get to 10k

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому

      Almost there! Next stop 100k!

  • @abelfekete1459
    @abelfekete1459 7 місяців тому +6

    My initial reading of"Why does Harry's scar hurt?" was that it was the symbol of the first encounter between Harry and Voldemort, and any future connections between them revokes the first time they've met, when Voldemort got so close to Harry to almost kill him, but only managed to scar him.
    Subsequent times when Voldemort gets "close" to Harry, the scar hurts, I imagined, that if Voldemort would get as close to killing Harry as he was initially, the scar would wound again.

  • @Batnano
    @Batnano 7 днів тому +2

    a mondane but something every wizard would do with a time-turner is enjoying some really nice food as many times as you want LOL. a nice piece of cake, or the best fries you've ever tasted... just go back 30 minutes and enjoy it again

  • @ARVETDEG
    @ARVETDEG 6 місяців тому +2

    Remember that the unforgivable curses, require intent and power, as stated by Moody. His example: If a kid wizard used avadakedabra, he would only be producing gashes on the cursed or even tickling.
    So, to kill someone, you need a very powerful intent, thus why they're very powerful curses that are unblockable. And I think, that having that power and intent, plus they're spells that attack the mind and soul, that's why they're unblockable, as how you stop something that attacks the non physical?
    That's why Voldemort avada in his last duel with Harry, fails, because it was also affected by the wand's loyalty to Harry, and wouldn't dare kill and hurt its master. So, there's that too. You need to be in complete control of your wand, and have the full intent to do it, otherwise it's just another weak curse that only damages the body, not the soul and mind.

  • @jakegreenberg1034
    @jakegreenberg1034 Місяць тому +1

    There's indication that wizards and witches don't actually need to invent more powerful spells like you say here, but magnify the spells they cast based on their inherent power. For instance, Dumbledore can cast a disillusionment charm so powerful that he doesn't need an invisibility cloak, whereas the same spell by Mad-Eye just camouflages Harry. I think this is also discussed with Dumbledore's Alohamora needing even more powerful magic to unlock, but I can't remember the details. If you read the books with this lens I think that the implication is that spells almost have "tiers" based on the power of their caster.

  • @Martyn_Wolf
    @Martyn_Wolf 7 місяців тому +1

    Regarding Magic Limits and why Ron managed to lift a club rather than a feather.
    My theory the main reason Hermione can do better than Ron or Harry at magic is because she is more focused, has determination, and is intentional when casting a spell. Same applies to any Wizard or Witch they're often very intentional and focused.
    99% of the time Ron and Harry aren't really focusing, have sufficient determination and aren't being that intentional when casting spells. I'll add that Harry and Ron don't ever appear to be good at understanding the concepts of the magic they're learning, which could also be why they're not as adapt so to speak, when it comes to the learning of spells aspects.
    Harry can do the Pratonus Charm when he follws the pre requisites: Happy thought's, clear speaking of the incantation and determined to cast it.
    I believe most if not all spells require: Determination, focus, intention oh and clear speaking of the incantation. (I say determination and focus are different here, because they are)
    I'll paraphrase what Snape says during Occlumency lessons "Occlumency requires force of mind and focus, I heard you threw off the Impirus curse, this requires similar skills" force of mind is essentially determination.
    🙃

  • @tgiacin435
    @tgiacin435 6 місяців тому +3

    With time turners, I figured they were made by the ministry, and were meant to be used with permission. Though I do wonder what made them think “yes, let’s have people use these for scheduling

  • @Yellow123Cy
    @Yellow123Cy 7 місяців тому +3

    U are very underrated bro keep up the good videos i luv them

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому

      I appreciate it! Thanks for watching!🙏🏻

  • @occheermommy
    @occheermommy 7 місяців тому +4

    The time turner thing is a bit convoluted when it comes to Hermmione’s being the only one ever to enter Hogwarts also. SuperCarlinBrothers have gone over this before but the gist is Hermione received 10 or 11 OWL’s and part of that was because of the use of a time turner. She needed a time turner to take any more classes. Percy got I think 12 OWL’s. How was he able to fit all that into his schedule without a TT. Also Barty Crouch Jr., when Crouch was insanely talking he mentions his son got 12 OWL’s. So at some point at least one of them must have had a time turner.
    I dont think it was that Arthurs attack was just an interesting fact. I think he was just all business in trying to get him help. Also he was trying not to look at Harry. He had other silver instruments and none of them are ever really explained. When Harry was upset after Sirius died he smashed a number of them but they were later whole again, presumably because Dumbledore repaired them.
    I dont think the magic system was completely thought out in that there are so many that would need to exist like when they talk about the household charms and many more detailed areas of life. In my head cannon I feel like once they begin using non spoken magic, they then just have to concentrate on what they are trying to do and dont exactly need a specific word after that.
    I believe JK has said that the magical existence is a genetic mutation as you described and that can crop up spontaneously on occasion, hence the muggle born.
    They say you cant block the Avada Kadavra curse. I dont think it ever said you cant block the other two, it is just implied that it wouldn’t be easy. As far as blocking the Avada Kadavra curse, they seem to be able to be blocked with physical objects but not with the protego charm. The example I would use is in the Ministry of Magic when Dumbledore moved the statue head in front of Harry when Voldemort tried to kill him. I feel like they are just too complex and strong and evil to be blocked. Harry is able to fight off the Imperius curse though too.
    As far as Fred and George and the map, I think JK has said they were helped along to find the saying by the map because it could sense them as rule breakers too. IDK if that is true that she said that but I think I heard it somewhere.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому

      I think you’re spot on with most of these! Thanks for watching, I appreciate you!

  • @Jay-ate-a-bug
    @Jay-ate-a-bug 7 місяців тому +1

    With regards to the Veil; I think JK was trying to answer that question in the First of the Fantastic Beasts Movies. The MACUSA organization in America had a very similar device/artifact they pretty much used to get rid or people/things in the form of a Pool that made you relive past "Good" memories. It was essentially the Veil with that added effect. The third option given in this video makes the most sense, that it was used as Capital Punishment even having an amphitheater for witnesses.

  • @apollocj1658
    @apollocj1658 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video as usual, though i do prefer when you don't include the random audio clips from the movie - its very jarring and kind of jump scarey for a chill discussion video. Keen for the next video!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому

      Appreciate the feedback! Trying to spice things up a little bit, I’ll keep working on it!

  • @nelliecrouch5223
    @nelliecrouch5223 6 місяців тому +1

    I think maybe the suggestion that the use of the Time Turner drives you ‘mad’ is more the idea of what the suggestion of what its use could do to you and how it would occupy your mind. Imagine you had a Time Turner, you would be constantly plagued with thoughts of using it, what you could do with it, you could loose track of time and days depending on how often it was used - as well as thoughts of seeing yourself, not knowing whether your future self had used it - knowing things that have already happened without the ability to change them or tell anybody - making present decisions would mean nothing, you would be aware of the possibility that nothing you do is defined in time. I would definitely be driven mad walking around Hogwarts wondering if i was going to bump into my future self at some point by accident or catch a glimpse . This is why i feel Dumbledore felt Hermione could handle the notion of utilising time for her education. It’s definitely maddening, seeing yourself i guess is suggested to be kind of like the idea that we can’t comprehend what nothingness feels like - its maddening in that the temptation is always there to meet yourself, however you would never know the reaction of either versions of yourself until it happened.

  • @bazookajane
    @bazookajane 4 місяці тому +1

    26:18 she’s totally seen herself. She knew the moment she turned around and said “I thought I saw… nevermind” maybe it’s a level of recognition. The less you acknowledge the fact you just saw yourself the less jarring it is. You almost have to mentally separate yourself from it which I’m assuming many people are not able to do.

  • @AlonescapeRS
    @AlonescapeRS 7 місяців тому +1

    great videos, really appreciate the effort put into it !

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @KNOTTYBUDS
    @KNOTTYBUDS 4 місяці тому +1

    I was just watching Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, and I just realized that when Newt and Tina are sentenced to be executed, they take them to a room with a pool of liquid that seems VERY similar to the veil. I wonder if that is exactly the same use as the other one in the U.K. Because I think your explanation is spot on. It makes sense that it would've been used for execution. They obviously aren't exactly the same. But it would make sense that the veil in the U.K. would be used for that, since we see a similar object being used for execution in America.

  • @FunnyCatVideos2118
    @FunnyCatVideos2118 Місяць тому +1

    The inability for Harry and Hermione to catch Pettigrew when they go back in time, reminds me also of Arya’s inability to name Tywin Lannister to Jaqen H’ghar. Harry, Hermione, and Arya could’ve solved some major conflicts right then and there, but they are children who are still developing their ability to see past what’s happening right now, in the moment. In Harry and Hermione’s case, too much is happening at any given moment when they go back in time, and they can only do so much AND manage to stay alive and keep up with it all-plus, they didn’t really have time before setting the time turner back three hours to draw out a detailed plan of attack. In Arya’s case, she is 8 or 9 and is just thinking about who she wants dead in the moment. She didn’t think about Tywin until she literally witnessed him marching toward her brother’s army, and even then it was too late-then she had to name her third name out of necessity.

  • @Akranejames
    @Akranejames День тому +1

    I think my most mundane use of a time turner would be telling myself the true Meteo whenever they're awfully wrong.

  • @teddyhh9947
    @teddyhh9947 7 місяців тому +3

    I feel like Rowling made a interesting world that wasnt properly explored. Had Hogwarts focused more on teaching spells, then Harry couldve become a more competent wizard in half the time. Thus freeing up a few books to properly explore the world

  • @_booth7992
    @_booth7992 6 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant video mate :)

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  6 місяців тому

      Thank you! Thanks for watching!

  • @Martyn_Wolf
    @Martyn_Wolf 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm suprised you didn't know the scar hurting was simply the piece of Voldys fragmented soul. That is more or less explained in the books themselves especially in Half-blood Prince/Deathly Hallows, albeit it not as clearly communicated. Dumbledore does tell Harry that he housed a piece Toms soul, most of the reason why it hurts is when Voldy is close by or feels emotions (happiness, anger so on) It's a conclusion that a reader can reach (not as a child prehaps, definitely when one is more older)

  • @anthonywritesfantasy
    @anthonywritesfantasy 7 місяців тому +1

    Mundane use of the time turner... love love love this.
    I would go back and tell myself whether Doors of Stone is as good as I hope it'll be.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +1

      I need to make a Kingkiller video

    • @anthonywritesfantasy
      @anthonywritesfantasy 7 місяців тому +1

      @@VaultLore I'd click as quick as you can say "Kote."

  • @melinaalba63
    @melinaalba63 7 місяців тому +1

    I love this video and i would absolutely love videos from you about the Witcher Series. Although i get that if you're maybe not too familiar with it, its a lot to go through until your deep in the story and world

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому

      I know about it, but never read the books or played much of the games. I’ll add it to the list, it’ll just need some extra research! Thanks for watching!!

  • @toxicbubble5
    @toxicbubble5 6 днів тому

    My favorite version of seeing yourself in time travel is in "I'm off to be the wizard" where Martin plays a game of poker with himself in the same evening, while both feeling sorry for his past self, getting drunk, and using hindsight to predict everthing that happened the first time.

  • @Lady_dromeda
    @Lady_dromeda 7 місяців тому +3

    Another thing about time turners that doesn’t makes sense is that there are a few other hogwarts students that would have needed them in order to achieve the high marks/ amount of classes on their newts like percy and barty crouch jr

  • @Marshy9128308
    @Marshy9128308 7 місяців тому +2

    I enjoyed listening to this. Thank you!

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @Marky11694
    @Marky11694 7 місяців тому +4

    49:00 You say she destroyed All other Time Turners yet she proceeded to have 2 Time Turners still exist during the events of The Cursed Child Atleast 20 Years after she supposedly destroyed all Time Turners so I would argue she didn’t seem to care how they affected plot holes as she still allowed them to be used in her storytelling

  • @kingofkeys93
    @kingofkeys93 7 місяців тому +1

    4. it would be interesting to know, if wizards made that veil and if the purpose of the spell was to let ghost come and go or, something with the dead. or if it was there, wizards found it and just built around it to keep the mystical hidden and the unknown hidden and if it just remained a question mark to them all and all they know for sure was dying people can pass through? it would be nice to get more explanation in magic systems

  • @MagusMarquillin
    @MagusMarquillin 7 місяців тому +1

    The veil being an older means of execution seems more likely after watching Fantastic Beasts 1, where the American ministry had something rather similar, though aesthetically different. Maybe curious wizards wanted to study death, made a one-way door, the officials confiscated it and it found a "clean" & "humane" way to kill criminals by making them walk through themselves. No illegal curse, no burial, no physical memorial for the "bad examples". For the most part it's out of style now.
    Easy to imagine some attempted to commune with the dead through it also.

    • @neverstopschweiking
      @neverstopschweiking 7 місяців тому

      It can be seen as a ceremony for sacrifice, maybe some voluntary as well. There were those in history. In the modern times, it's just a relic in the basement.

  • @Atrulion
    @Atrulion 3 місяці тому +1

    Ngl, I love that this book has these mysteries. Without it, it wouldn't be the same.

  • @avalon5957
    @avalon5957 7 місяців тому +1

    Maybe the HP universe has an untold spell system similar to D&D, where spells like Avada Kedavre are actually very high level and to counterspell it, you need to be a master of counterspells. In D&D if you want to instantaneously counter a spell, you need to cast counterspell at the same level of the incoming spell or above it, and if the killing curse is a 9th level (max level) spell, then you need to be skilled enough to cast a 9th level yourself OR make a roll for it, which could be visualised as the thing that happens when the beams from each wand meet. It would make a lot of sense if it worked in that sort of way. It would also explain how Molly killed Bellatrix with a different spell as she fired it at max level, thus doing the maximum amount of damage that spell could possibly make.

    • @avalon5957
      @avalon5957 7 місяців тому

      It would also explain why Harry merely pushed Bellatrix when he tried to torture her with the Crucio curse. He simply wasn't advanced enough, as I'm sure he was angry enough.

  • @turdle69420
    @turdle69420 4 місяці тому +2

    So the diary horcrux was a spitting image and charming. The locket was depraved and insane. Was that because its' existence was trapped in a basin under water, or because it was the crazy part of voldemort's soul?

  • @bottomtext251
    @bottomtext251 Місяць тому +1

    30:20 you can look at dumbledores silver instrument as a drawing board, he was just visualizing his thoughts.

  • @danielmeagher2735
    @danielmeagher2735 2 місяці тому +1

    Another fantastic video. The only correction I have: Mcgonegall gave Hermione the time turner, not Dumbledore.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  2 місяці тому +1

      Ah fair. Thanks for watching!

  • @sesitallseb
    @sesitallseb 21 день тому

    For the discussion around “finite incantatem” around the 44:20 mark:
    I feel like a great way to look at this is that jinxes are wizards inventing creative ways to put annoying spells on people, Specifically making it complex enough so that a simple “finite” would not end it.
    Seeing jinxes as clever, common pop culture spells of the people vs the more formal spells that are taught at hogwarts also helps explain how some witches and wizards know funny and annoying jinxes even on their first year.
    Idk lmk ur thoughts

  • @dellarm
    @dellarm 2 місяці тому +2

    I always thought Harry’s scar hurting was kinda like my neck aching when it’s about to rain 😂

  • @Lil_Valor
    @Lil_Valor 3 місяці тому +1

    Love the video other than the fact you broke down and explained the saying of “going mad” for about 10 minutes. How it doesn’t actually mean to literally go insane💀

  • @oddnmacabre1825
    @oddnmacabre1825 13 днів тому +1

    I think the feather and club difference is intent. You don’t need as much focus or intent to lift a simple feather but the club would be difficult for anyone, unless it was about to go through your friends head

  • @KalkuehlUncut
    @KalkuehlUncut 3 місяці тому +1

    If nagini knew this pain, voldemort would have realised way more early that he has a connection with harry.

  • @Sickkid1313
    @Sickkid1313 6 місяців тому +1

    7:26 i always assumed the pain was because of the connection they shared (or the piece of soul) was being interfered with by the protection spell that Harry's mother put on him

  • @luminousignesia372
    @luminousignesia372 7 місяців тому +4

    the time turner one is just science. Lets say you had your future self get food for your past self like you said. if that occurs you'd never have been hungry in the first place therefore creating a paradox and that is what in essence would cause the madness. the way jk went about time travel in the book is fine and reasonable but it clearly shows why she never used it again because the whole book is a paradox and the only reason its ok is because she had them avoid their past selves as much as she could but still with some critical thought the plot of PoA just falls apart

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому

      Haha critical thought would solve most problems in a world with magic.

    • @luminousignesia372
      @luminousignesia372 7 місяців тому +1

      @@VaultLore I'm not saying magic is logical just time travel has to be 😂😂

  • @josephgerard5473
    @josephgerard5473 7 місяців тому +1

    You might also be interested in checking out Ravenclaw Rules by British band UNIT. I know nothing about them - the video just appeared in my 'recommended feed'. I found it again by typing UNIT Ravenclaw Rules Andy Martin. It's prog rock, Jim, but not as we know it.

  • @MoxxoM
    @MoxxoM 7 місяців тому +2

    22:46: Huh? That can't be true. Didn't Percy get 12 O.W.L.s? That's the seven mandatory subjects plus every additional subject, of which you had to choose at least two. If Herrmione had to use one, Percy had to too, or he couldn't attend all classes. Right? So that couldn't be the first time a time-turner was used in Hogwarts. And I'm pretty sure Barty Crouch Jr. also has 12 O.W.L.s. So he used one too.

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +1

      Possible! But I don’t think that’s ever confirmed.

    • @MoxxoM
      @MoxxoM 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@VaultLore Well, either they used one too or the class structure was way better only a few years before she had to literally time travel to attend all classes, which is kinda dumb anyway and speaks volumes about the organisation capabilites of that school.
      Only exeption I could see is that you don't actually have to attend all those classes at all. You just turn up at the exams, ace them and leave. If you fail, so what? You didn't waste two years of classes, so it doesn't hurt to try, right?

    • @VaultLore
      @VaultLore  7 місяців тому +1

      Haha like high school AP exams I guess