There's just generally bad information in this video. You can use an oil based poly over water based stain (and vice versa). You just have to let the stain fully cure first. You also should not use polyurethane outdoors at all. Use a marine varnish, spar urethane, general finishes exterior 450, etc. Poly will crack, peel, and amber significantly outdoors. It has no UV protection, at all. The 3 I mentioned for outdoors do. And they are pliable so they will move with the wood (poly is very ridgid and brittle), thus they will not crack/peel, and the UV protection means they will not amber like poly would.
Thank you. Very informative. I used water base on a desk for my kids and it has held up very well to their abuse so far. The paint and food cleans right off💪
There is a water base spar urethane that I used for outdoor to keep an original light color of the stain or paint instead of using the oil base spar urethane or polyurethane that yellows and darken the finish .It’s a minwax brand indoor/outdoor helmsman spar urethane. Sold at sherwin Williams
What varnish would i use for kitchen trivets, or hot plates? Im concerned about the heat they will get with hot pans on them always. What would you recommend?
Somebody please correct me if I’m wrong, but I was always told you can apply a water-based top-coat over an oil-based stain because the water-based solvents can’t really mess with the oil-base below, BUT you can’t apply an oil-based top-coat over a water based stain as it can mess with the water based stain. Is this not correct?
@@kfiscal01 once oil based coatings paints or stains are fully hardened, you can add water based coatings over it. This has always been true. I have a 30yr old table that's my dad finished with oil and I covered with water-based poly 20 years ago. It's still going strong
There is a water based polyurethane used on small craft projects. It can leave a slight yellow tint like the oil based. That being said, thank you for the video. I think that I will use the polycrylic on the inside stairs that I will stain, now that the carpet has been removed. I do prefer working with water based.
Sorry, but I've used oil based poly over water based stain and vice versa many times. As long as the stain is totally dry, it doesn't make a bit of difference.
You could try it on a test piece but I'd be very hesitant to do it as the solvents in the oil based poly could cause issues. I also don't think you'd be gaining as much from it as you might think.
So your table with the poly holds up to hot cup of coffee?
There's just generally bad information in this video. You can use an oil based poly over water based stain (and vice versa). You just have to let the stain fully cure first. You also should not use polyurethane outdoors at all. Use a marine varnish, spar urethane, general finishes exterior 450, etc. Poly will crack, peel, and amber significantly outdoors. It has no UV protection, at all. The 3 I mentioned for outdoors do. And they are pliable so they will move with the wood (poly is very ridgid and brittle), thus they will not crack/peel, and the UV protection means they will not amber like poly would.
Thank you. Very informative. I used water base on a desk for my kids and it has held up very well to their abuse so far. The paint and food cleans right off💪
That's great! Nice work :)
Awesome video. Very helpful Thank you
You're welcome!
Great video! Which finish is best finishing on our dining tabletop? We will abuse, scratch, and anything on it with young kids.
Lots of options, we used quite a few quotes of polycrylic and its held up great
Very nice video, neighbor!
Thanks 👍 :)
I have a wooden kitchen table that I put oil based stain what do you recommend to put as a top coat
This just saved me so much money, thank you ❤️❤️
You're so welcome!
Thank you for these videos. Very smart man!
thank you for such a quality video!
My pleasure!
does the water based one become white and the oil based yellow?
There is a water base spar urethane that I used for outdoor to keep an original light color of the stain or paint instead of using the oil base spar urethane or polyurethane that yellows and darken the finish .It’s a minwax brand indoor/outdoor helmsman spar urethane. Sold at sherwin Williams
Thanks for sharing!
Can I use water based poly over oil based stain on an interior piece?
Great explanation made my choice way easier!
Glad it helped!
Nice table!
I think so too!
What varnish would i use for kitchen trivets, or hot plates? Im concerned about the heat they will get with hot pans on them always. What would you recommend?
Does it hold up to hot cup of coffee? That's my question also!
what is the best applicator to apply polycrylic over gel stain cabinets?
What finish of polycrylic did you use for the table?
Love polycrylic!
what about alcohol bases dyes?
For polycrilic, use water based dye. For Polyurathane, use a dye that is soluable in mineral spirits.
@@SawsHub Thank you!
Did you sand between coats of the polycrylic?
Yes, very lightly
THANKYOU
You're welcome!
How many years passed between the intro and the video? I feel like he aged a bit...
It was a long project 😂😂😂
how much time passed between the intro and the product information? great video btw.
Somebody please correct me if I’m wrong, but I was always told you can apply a water-based top-coat over an oil-based stain because the water-based solvents can’t really mess with the oil-base below, BUT you can’t apply an oil-based top-coat over a water based stain as it can mess with the water based stain. Is this not correct?
Overall, yes, that is generally correct. I personally don't do that but that does sound correct.
You don't want to mix at all. Either go oil-based, or acrylic.
@@kfiscal01 once oil based coatings paints or stains are fully hardened, you can add water based coatings over it. This has always been true. I have a 30yr old table that's my dad finished with oil and I covered with water-based poly 20 years ago. It's still going strong
What happens or how will it look if you mix the oil stain to the water polycrylic
If you’re using oil based stain, the best solution would be polyurethane.
@@SawsHub polycrylic is polyurethane😵💫
What type of water based stain did you use on your table?
Minwax water based charcoal gray stain
There is a water based polyurethane used on small craft projects. It can leave a slight yellow tint like the oil based.
That being said, thank you for the video. I think that I will use the polycrylic on the inside stairs that I will stain, now that the carpet has been removed. I do prefer working with water based.
Sorry, but I've used oil based poly over water based stain and vice versa many times. As long as the stain is totally dry, it doesn't make a bit of difference.
Thats what I learned.
I hope I can return both of my waterbased minwax products because of the poor finish quality even though directions were followed.
Sounds like you didn't follow the directions...
Have you ever applied polyurethane OVER a cured polycrylic?
You could try it on a test piece but I'd be very hesitant to do it as the solvents in the oil based poly could cause issues. I also don't think you'd be gaining as much from it as you might think.