New Evidence On Sargeras' GRAND RETURN! He's Completely Different!

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  • @Doronsmovies
    @Doronsmovies  4 дні тому +3

    Do you think Sargeras could revert to his titan form? Also I'd like to thank Marvel STrike force for making this video possible, download the game for FREE now: bit.ly/41s6Ftb to support my channel and unlock up to 17 total characters within the first 30 days of playing! Redeem the promo code VENOMGIFT to get free 100 Venom shards, 500 Power Cores, 5 Premium Orbs in Marvel Strike Force!

    • @sindrimyr5351
      @sindrimyr5351 4 дні тому

      He could revert to it, the titans for sure could find a way. However it would not change his disposition. It was not Fel mutation or corruption that caused him to start his crusade. If anything, his physical corruption was just a side effect of realeasing the demons from Marduum. and Personally...I don't want him to revert. I love him as he is.

    • @simonjacksons
      @simonjacksons 4 дні тому

      Is Sargeras coming back for his sword?

    • @kingpaddy9009
      @kingpaddy9009 4 дні тому

      The more crazy assumption is maybe that he gets the Legion back on track. In the past I always thought: the order he brought to the demons, forming an army out of them, with the eredars (who are basically the most potent magicians (arcane magic - order aligned) we know so far) was his titanself all along. He was organizing and ordering demonkind like the Titans were ordering the cosmos. Going crazy and becoming demon from nature was nothig that ever made sense I doesn't know why people jumped on this conclusion, when it was in the foundation lore of WoW laid out, that his plan was to eradicate everything to begin a new ordering in the end, before they introduced the void lords into the lore. He is Titan from toe to head.
      Think about: Illidan had sacrificed so many and had sworn his life to bring an end to the legion and sargeras. Maybe the titans are in The Last Titan willing not only to cooperate with Sargeras but have an interest in a joint venture with the ordered disorder, like using his demon army as well (and you can imagine there will be potential for infighting: demons who in absence of Sargeras realized they are better on their own, because they can cause havoc and destruction without any structures holding them back and take control of one part of the former legion, Denathrius and the Nathrezim as former spys and leutnants take also one part and Sargeras try taking control back, to bring them as his personal army for the titans cause on Azeroth, because in the end: mortals doesn't matter to the titans and with Azeroths children openly rebelling against them, there is no reason to hold the demons back from massdestruction. You can imagine how Illidan would look at this topic and it will shed a much more hypocritical light on the Titans.

    • @sindrimyr5351
      @sindrimyr5351 4 дні тому

      @@simonjacksons tbh, when he first used he summoned it out of thin air, nothing saying that once he is free that he can just summon it back

  • @themenace3951
    @themenace3951 4 дні тому +34

    imagine demon hunters get a new spec and that what titan killer is

    • @rengarlothbrok5696
      @rengarlothbrok5696 4 дні тому

      Oh yeaw, fck being an Illidan Rip-Off I didn't farm crazy Items to make the ultimate mog and not being able to see it in fights

    • @ThisisDD
      @ThisisDD 4 дні тому +7

      It would indeed be nice to have a third spec to work with.

    • @themenace3951
      @themenace3951 4 дні тому +3

      @ThisisDD it would be great especially with illidan coming back might have some new tricks to share with his fellow demon Hunters

    • @tomia89
      @tomia89 4 дні тому

      imagine it being 2h spec, that would be cool

    • @jesuscollazo4303
      @jesuscollazo4303 4 дні тому

      Gay I quit

  • @pandora2806
    @pandora2806 4 дні тому +16

    Lord Illidan back? Omg, hold my warglaives!

    • @sodadrinker89
      @sodadrinker89 4 дні тому

      YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!

    • @monkeyjames9285
      @monkeyjames9285 4 дні тому

      Night elf warlock sadly wanted same path sacrifice everything but unfortunately already imprisoned ya at time so decided fight as warlock. I offer my service to ya and illidari as demon and legion always be Looming threat ( this my night elf reason be warlock)

  • @Fazlifts
    @Fazlifts 4 дні тому +5

    Just taking a moment to appreciate Doron continuously providing me with all the important lore, so I can skip every quest text in the game 👍

  • @missdeadite9696
    @missdeadite9696 4 дні тому +3

    Sargaras didn't go crazy, he just murdered like 90 percent of the UNIVERSE. totally not crazy. very sane. very demure.

    • @Cliodhna-z1i
      @Cliodhna-z1i 4 дні тому

      Very mindful

    • @Cliodhna-z1i
      @Cliodhna-z1i 4 дні тому

      He doesn't wear a green cut crease when going to work- he doesn't go to work looking like a clown for sure

  • @pirojfmifhghek566
    @pirojfmifhghek566 4 дні тому +12

    This is the kind of ending I can be cool with. The titans drop their benevolent facade, they release Sargeras in order to punish us, we kick his big titan ass from the hilt of his sword. Big huge battle with god from the edge of space itself. Fuckin' epic.
    I'm glad Danuser is gone because he definitely would've tried to give Sargeras a corny redemption arc instead. And he would've had Sylvanus kill him in a cutscene, then monologue about it.

    • @Yvario
      @Yvario 4 дні тому +2

      And then after killing him, she would say that she didn’t. Because how could a servant of death not SERVE DEATH.

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @pirojfmifhghek566 The current devs aren't better.

  • @zintosion
    @zintosion 4 дні тому +5

    Somehow Sargeras returns.

    • @tatalsaba
      @tatalsaba 4 дні тому

      Blizzard has better writers than that.

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @@tatalsaba Not really. Danuser and Golden and other devs think stuff like the MCU has top notch writing.

    • @tatalsaba
      @tatalsaba 3 дні тому

      @@galten7361some parts of the MCU is good, just look at Winter Soldier, Far from Home, and the first Avengers.
      Besides, that the devs and writers have a positive opinion on writing in other franchises that has had issues doesn't make them bad writers.

    • @W.Isarnorix.D
      @W.Isarnorix.D 2 дні тому

      Illidan Jailbreak most likely, if it happens.
      JMHO.
      Yeah I know Sargeras did a buncha bad.
      Illidan did a buncha bad too.
      Illidan will probably see that Sargeras is an older version of himself that has been fighting his own war long before Illidan was a thought.
      I can see Illidan coming to understand the Titans are no better than the Naru that tried the force The Light upon him.

  • @Kross415
    @Kross415 4 дні тому +12

    Sargeras and Illidan have always been a parallel, both are a mirror of each other and the "end justifies the means" type, they just were in opposite sides. They'll come back together as allies.

    • @NostraDavid2
      @NostraDavid2 4 дні тому

      Pyromancer has been calling them "fractals", as in "Illidan is a fractal of Sargeras". Fractals seemingly repeat themselves at a smaller scale.

    • @1107Archangel
      @1107Archangel 4 дні тому

      honestly kind of ironic we thought Illidan was purely evil during black temple its basically looking like a repeat but this time with Sargeras to everyone else they seem mad but to them they just know what it takes to get shit done.

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @@1107Archangel Let me guess you unironically defend the Culling of Stratholme.

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @Kross415 MCU/New Star Wars/BBC show/other thing redditor or tumblr or Musk Net tier writing.

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @Kross415 MCU/New Star Wars/BBC show/other thing redditor or tumblr or Musk Net tier writing.

  • @cflgt500
    @cflgt500 4 дні тому

    Been waiting for a new Doron vid drop. I listen to these like podcasts when driving

  • @That_kind_of_orc
    @That_kind_of_orc 4 дні тому +5

    If Sargeras is returning so is....THE GOAT Illidan!

    • @darcraven01
      @darcraven01 4 дні тому +1

      he kinda does look like a goat, doesnt he? 😂

  • @Val_ayh
    @Val_ayh 4 дні тому +3

    Everything we know about Sargeras' motives have been told to us by the Titans, & we now know the Titans have lied to us about pretty much everything. I feel confident saying that idea Sargeras went crazy after being gaslit by dreadlords, is just another lie that'll be exposed in The Last Titan. I wouldn't be surprised if Illidan figures out what's actually going on, & reluctantly partners with Sargeras to end the Titan threat without destroying Azeroth.

    • @W.Isarnorix.D
      @W.Isarnorix.D 4 дні тому +1

      I think he could do it whole heartedly without reluctance. Illidan wouldn't be able to standby and watch the Titans Dominate Sargeras' mind and turn him into an obedient puppet. Somewhere along that process, the original Sargeras would surface (remove of X Fel energy) and Illidan would be like "That's enough."
      I can see Illidan jailbreaking Sargeras and the two of them fucking up shop before rolling out to Azeroth.

    • @Val_ayh
      @Val_ayh 4 дні тому +2

      @@W.Isarnorix.D I say "reluctantly", because Sargeras still did do a bunch of shit directly to Illidan, as well as to Azeroth. I think it would be more of a "less of 2 evil" kind of situation he'd have to choose.

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @@Val_ayh "Actually the villain had a point when he committed genocide or should be redeemed" is not special writing just letting you know.

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      ​@@W.Isarnorix.D New Star Wars supporter found.

    • @Val_ayh
      @Val_ayh 3 дні тому

      @@galten7361 I never said Sargeras' genocide should be redeemed or excused. I said the motive behind his actions is probably a lie to cover up what the Titans (who've also committed countless genocides) have done.
      I'm sorry you have the reading comprehension of a mollusk, & think storytelling should be black & white...

  • @michaelkelley2727
    @michaelkelley2727 4 дні тому +1

    they should've kept azeroth as a titan soul, tbh.

  • @glass_jaws
    @glass_jaws 4 дні тому +1

    TBF the Titan's machines failed, but if they had been around they could have maintained them. Sargeras killing them off essentially guaranteed they would fail, so sorta self fulfilling prophecy there.

  • @LordProteus
    @LordProteus 3 дні тому

    That's his Avatar. Sargeras is the big firey bearded dude.

  • @friezeray
    @friezeray 4 дні тому

    great video doron!

  • @brandonsimmers6624
    @brandonsimmers6624 4 дні тому +4

    Taliesin convinced me the survey is fake and I can’t unsee that now. Most of the classes on there are descriptions of classes already in the game.

    • @stellamariaholeklyve2781
      @stellamariaholeklyve2781 4 дні тому +1

      This! Love Doron's vids, but was a bit surprised to see him going off that leak.

    • @leeroyj7300
      @leeroyj7300 4 дні тому

      or.....only some are classes, while other are specs?

  • @corbin_4738
    @corbin_4738 4 дні тому +5

    Who else has a sentient sword? - hint, hint: the leader of Revendreth. It would be humorous if he was actually playing Xal'atath since that is what he does.

  • @ThatGuyKB32
    @ThatGuyKB32 4 дні тому

    You don’t think the Sundering and fact the titans never returned to Azeroth had anything to do with their facilities “failing” and going “haywire” not justsargeras saw it wouldn’t work….i told you so”

  • @joakimfrost
    @joakimfrost 2 дні тому

    Titankiller is demon hunters third spec. And will be learned when illidan defeats sargeras.

  • @RetroGuy_77
    @RetroGuy_77 4 дні тому

    Here's an interesting idea... What if Azeroth is actually the "second half" of a once whole Sargeras? Yin and Yang. Sargeras/Azeroth were once maybe extremely more powerful and the Titans, in order to subdue "them", they figured out a way to split them into who they are now, two halves of a broken shell of their former self. The Titans were able to subdue and imprison one half, but Sargeras proved to be too strong for them to contain. So maybe Sargeras is just trying to get his other half back and waged war on the Titans by creating the Burning Legion, who's REAL goal was to undo the Titans ordering of worlds by destroying them, while also trying to get back to his other half.

    • @NostraDavid2
      @NostraDavid2 4 дні тому

      That would explain why pre-Legion Sargeras had Domination Runes on his armor, as he would need to be controlled.

  • @TheMrakic
    @TheMrakic 4 дні тому +2

    ''This world is a prison'' now makes much more sense

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 2 дні тому

      @TheMrakic "Ackshually the villain who did genocide had a point"

  • @Nicosegoviafilm
    @Nicosegoviafilm 4 дні тому +3

    Those class concepts and surveys seem super fake to be honest, I wouldn't put them as a reference.

    • @hobosnake1
      @hobosnake1 4 дні тому +2

      The leak literally has 3 classes that if you read their description, you realize theyre already existing classes in WoW. I am judging anybody who believed this. This channel is kinda dead to me.

  • @joeyl564
    @joeyl564 4 дні тому +1

    The titans see that every mechanism they put in place is failing and decide to kill Illidan, and unleash Sargeras on Azeroth..

    • @W.Isarnorix.D
      @W.Isarnorix.D 4 дні тому

      I can see Illidan freeing Sargeras after realizing the Titans strip beings of their Free Will. Sargeras may have gotten too deep into the shit but he and Illidan are very much cut from the same cloth.

    • @josephsaric401
      @josephsaric401 4 дні тому +1

      @@W.Isarnorix.Dagree completely. After all that time fighting as prisoner (Sargeras) and jailer (Illidan) words had to be exchanged and I could see Sargeras explaining to Illidan the error of the Titans and suddenly both are like yeah let’s go back and efff them up some!

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @@josephsaric401 Do you think the MCU or whatever Benedict Cumberbatch is in is great art that reflects how reality totally is?

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @@W.Isarnorix.D New Star Wars supporter found.

  • @leeroyj7300
    @leeroyj7300 4 дні тому

    Imagine we get midnight and our new protagonists are Sargaras and N'Zoth

  • @tetraxenonx2550
    @tetraxenonx2550 4 дні тому +1

    Maybe not a new class but maybe a New spec for dh, something like titans jailer

  • @babdacool1970
    @babdacool1970 3 дні тому

    I'm really excited about Lord Illidan's return (I think you could imagine my class)
    But I don't want Sergeras to come back really. I feel like it's better if he just...ended.

  • @knightghaleon
    @knightghaleon День тому

    Sargeras, somehow he returned

  • @GreenArtsOrphan
    @GreenArtsOrphan 4 дні тому

    Must likely illaden is gonna list to him and agree to free him for that battle. Then back into the jail, but not as a prisoner, but more like a safer way to keep him. Freedom, but not really Freedom.

  • @jdbd4818
    @jdbd4818 День тому

    How many times are demons gonna have to get defeated before we move on….

  • @mykaelnyx8821
    @mykaelnyx8821 4 дні тому

    So this means now as the humans and other creatures of azeroth, we're going to have to kill the Titans? That sounds good to me

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @mykaelnyx8821 "The Alliance would rather live with the Horde than aid the Titans"
      MCU tier writing.

  • @ds698
    @ds698 3 дні тому

    4:39 I’m always angry at this perspective. What then would be the other option if not for the titans intervention. NO WOW UNIVERSE, it would all be consumed by the void lords via the old gods landing on planets.
    It’s a balance, the titans aren’t tyrannical they are order and the void isn’t the under dog they are absolute chaos.
    Your character you play in the game is somewhere in the middle, just like in actual real life and religions.
    That’s why this part of the story of wow is easily the best and most important. Not a ring and an island and goblins and gnomes and little DEI fantasy’s that literally plague every good story these days.

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @ds698 You're talking about a franchise written by men who think the MCU is high art.

  • @Kapuze916
    @Kapuze916 4 дні тому

    Now ..... we belong to the legion !

  • @KrazyKaas
    @KrazyKaas 4 дні тому

    Well, that was sooner than later

  • @ThatGuyKB32
    @ThatGuyKB32 4 дні тому

    Also he sargeras was STABBING Azeroth…he was known to have cleaved a world in two. You don’t stab something to cut it in half. He wasn’t trying to split Azeroth 🥴

  • @generaltim494
    @generaltim494 4 дні тому

    Or maybe what we do in midnight aka if we beat the void saragas will have change of heart and become good and help rebuild azeroth after the damage midnight gonna do

  • @alucardtherealvampire6470
    @alucardtherealvampire6470 4 дні тому

    Lord Illidan well show us the way

  • @ds698
    @ds698 3 дні тому

    5:07 NO gosh it’s like you serve the old gods and void lords. Your perspective is truly childish.
    “Oh it’s just the same as the void lords basically just more nice and sophisticate.” NO the void lords version has none of the entire races you play in the game existing because their species could never be born.
    If im not mistaken it’s the old gods that put the curse of flesh on the sentient life on Azeroth and now they have basic life as we know it so again it’s a balance.
    But to tout the void lords version of something so simplistic and not dangerous to life as we all know it in the context of the game of course is literally rooting for the actual bad guys.
    The side of order at its supreme level is of course over bearing but thats why we have the graphic you showed earlier showing all this different elements and powers in the wow universe.
    But you can use logic and see that if you parallel the game universe with aspects of our actual universe and your choices had real weight in the matter you’d be making a mistake, because the games universe is based off of elements and the foundation of our real universe.
    It’s like this you can’t WOW if you don’t have a uniformed real universe to think it up and play it. You need a level of order and chaos more order than chaos though to create something long lasting. Just like in real life.

  • @ARJAY_NO
    @ARJAY_NO 4 дні тому

    Aaah so good to see this, I fucking knew it.

  • @Draconistarum_000
    @Draconistarum_000 4 дні тому

    We already dealt with Sargeras before. Talk about beating a dead horse... this is shameless lack of creativity from the writers. I wouldnt be surprised if we have another go with Arthas at this rate T_T

  • @Adriipht6969
    @Adriipht6969 4 дні тому +1

    You dont think Sargeras went crazy? He literally obliterated entire planets lmao. You can say Sargeras was right the titans werent doing enough, but destroying entire planets is pretty crazy if you ask me XD

    • @Doronsmovies
      @Doronsmovies  4 дні тому +1

      Titans are enslaving entire planets and also destroying them as well if they can't order them in their image.

    • @Adriipht6969
      @Adriipht6969 4 дні тому +1

      @ I’m not saying the titans are the good guys, I’m saying both the titans and sargeras are crazy haha

  • @tatalsaba
    @tatalsaba 4 дні тому

    Honestly, it'd be amazing if Sargeras, unlike all the other titans, would see things from the mortal of Azeroth's perspective, and not completely destroy the planet when he is freed.
    Btw, some of the reactions to the whole class survey is that it's fake: ua-cam.com/video/VjLKZ0JmFAE/v-deo.html
    Which would be a relief in some cases, Titankiller works as a tittle we'll get eventually.
    Tinker on the other hand: I want that.

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @tatalsaba "Actually the villain was trying to save the world by exterminating the untermenschen" is MCU tier writing.

  • @databeat247
    @databeat247 4 дні тому

    BOOM! Creating a new timeline where CATACLYSM NEVER HAPPENED and we all get the VANILLA PLUS we need where level cap is 60 and all expansions are vanilla based ..... WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY!!!! Or I just keep playing private servers ....

  • @DageD214
    @DageD214 4 дні тому

    It has been four years since I stopped playing this game. I have missed so much need to come back…

    • @hobosnake1
      @hobosnake1 4 дні тому +1

      Dont honestly. If you are gonna come back, wait for the next expansion. This one is the boring exposition expansion of the 3 expansion saga they have going. Next one already has cooler features confirmed.

    • @DageD214
      @DageD214 4 дні тому

      @ okay thanks for the heads up

    • @therightperspective8690
      @therightperspective8690 4 дні тому

      Nah. Legion was the unofficial end of the game for me. Been nothing but mediocrity ever since.

    • @hobosnake1
      @hobosnake1 4 дні тому

      @@therightperspective8690 funny how the lore starts touching on all the legion stuff, old gods and void lords as Chris Metzen comes back. I'm hoping they revive the corpse of this game's story. So far in TWW, it's been a ton of set up. If the payoff is good and they can get the gameplay in a good spot, ill be down for WoW again. I think we will see the true fruits of Microsoft taking over after this xpac. This one was already in development and full production by the time the switch happened and they got Metzen back (creator of the og lore and all of warcraft p much)

    • @demte84
      @demte84 4 дні тому

      you arent missing anything

  • @panathaninf
    @panathaninf 3 дні тому

    Yay! I suppose in Blizzard's latest trend, Sargeras 2.0 would be a misunderstood, with psychological issues, weakling. They will also make out with Illidan in the story. Blizzard lore 2.0

  • @Bramandin
    @Bramandin 3 дні тому

    Titans are good guys :]

  • @Dark_Jaguar
    @Dark_Jaguar 4 дні тому

    They just keep bringing back all the old villains... Considering how badly things went when they created all new characters in Shadowlands, I suppose that makes sense, but it's still disappointing.

  • @ds698
    @ds698 3 дні тому

    7:47 so did the void lords….this part of what your saying is so stupid.

  • @DavidCodyPeppers.
    @DavidCodyPeppers. 4 дні тому

    Titan Colonialism.
    🕊

    • @galten7361
      @galten7361 3 дні тому

      @DavidCodyPeppers. Both the Alliance and Horde have colonizers. The Horde colonized Kalimdor. The Forest Trolls got colonized already.

  • @Nagria2112
    @Nagria2112 4 дні тому

    1%? no start connecting the dots doran. look at the colors. look at crystals and Minerals. look back more then 1 civilization.

  • @johnnymcgeez5647
    @johnnymcgeez5647 4 дні тому

    But why is Sargeras so huge compared to other titans?

    • @biosyn-ab4261
      @biosyn-ab4261 4 дні тому

      big deek, I mean, fel energy

    • @cw8
      @cw8 4 дні тому

      The Titans are huge. Aman'thul pulled out an Old God with his bare hands. Pretty sure they can shrink themselves

    • @johnnymcgeez5647
      @johnnymcgeez5647 4 дні тому

      @@cw8 hmm, I remember reading somewhere that Sargeras could increase his size before combat. Maybe they are not that huge but can become huge when needed, or maybe it's just bad writing...

  • @ds698
    @ds698 3 дні тому

    7:27 WRONG OMG DUDE JUST SO WRONG ITS NOT THAT SIMPLE DUDE. Your explanation of this part of the lore is HORRIBLE!

  • @silver_forest-k5i
    @silver_forest-k5i 4 дні тому +1

    stop posting low quality videos about those fake leaks

  • @thehonorablebandit
    @thehonorablebandit 4 дні тому +1

    Man, I miss the Old Gods. All this stuff with Titan artifacts, mechanisms, machinery etc... idk, I just don't like it. To be fair, I never really liked the idea of how the races were pre-Curse of Flesh. Besides, Lovecraftian monsters and gods will always have a special place in my heart. I still hope for the return of the Black Empire.

  • @ds698
    @ds698 3 дні тому

    I unsubbed cuz this sucks.

  • @Fyre19
    @Fyre19 4 дні тому

    but why hes dead why do we need him back

  • @DaveDavis-f9w
    @DaveDavis-f9w 4 дні тому

    *Yawn*
    M'alright. Anyway...