the lore of where monolith gets their equipment is also interesting. Apparently this equipment was stored in some laboratory in chernobyl, so that means that monolith was planned even before the disaster that created the zone, infact its very possible that "trying to achieve world piece" as told by c-con was an attempt to zombifie the entire world, which fortunately backfired on them.
Yeah there is a real mystery behind the Monolith's equipment. You can find monolith armors in lab X18, but some dialogs in Clear Sky suggest that the faction had these uniforms before even before being brainwashed. I guess we'll never now the truth.
@@____.__._.._ military groups, ukraine, nato and mercs certainly made it to the npp first so if they were "original" monolith it makes sense that their equipment is western made.
I think the faction existed0 before that nuclear disaster, it was prbably a millitary one seeing how unique their equipment and camo on their clothing looks like.
11:03 in Clear Sky, after the laboratory X-16's cooling is stabilized, the zombified stalkers in the area will turn normal, yet still hostile. They move like a normal human after the psy-emission is gone.
Scorcher's operating modes theory is so cool. It explains a lot, it doesn't contradict anything and it make so much sense, Awesome idea and great video.
The one about the agent wanting to carry out his task at all costs is very interesting for the player's first playthrough in shadow of chernobyl, let me explain You've probably never played this game before, And so when you get to know that your main objective is to kill strelok, you either don't pay too much attention to it or over time you start thinking when will you get to kill that strelok guy? Whenever it will be offered to you you will most likely try to get intel on who or what strelok is, until you realize you're strelok. You basically become an agent IRL.
Yeah and it explains why the Marked One accepts so many difficult and dangerous missions without much care, he is ready to do anything to find any piece of information about Strelok.
You forgot to mention the legend... the mystery The guy who took out that one antenna in the brain scorcher with an RPG, without psy protection. Who was he? From what i remember in the entry - he just literally climbed up the tower and shot the RPG. What a madlad He's the reason the brain scorcher is not so deadly anymore, as in clear sky - if you try to enter the red forest - you die almost instantly.
You sure are making a name for yourself in the stalker community, every time on Reddit posts asking what the best stalker content creator is, you always are on those lists! You’re doing good! Interesting video too.
The monolith soldiers that you said looked like zombies makes me believe that these were perhaps stalkers who had an unadjusted psy helmet meaning that perhaps a little bit of their brains were damaged by either yantar, anomalies or controllers before but they managed to survive. Some stalkers that you talk to talk about that they have nightmares about seeing controllers after fighting them and having hallucinations. and then sometime after that they went to the center of the zone and became brainwashed by the brain schorcher
I just wanna say that I really appreciate what you do because I just recently began playing the Stalker games and after my first shadow of chernobyl playthrough I was so surprised how much stuff I actually missed.
Thanks, I know right, there is so much stuff hidden in the world of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. that it will take you several playthroughs to get everything. And even after thousands of hours playing the games, there are still many mysteries and things you just don't understand that will remain stuck in your head. Anyway, good luck in the Zone stalker !
I always thought that the brain scorcher was used to convert Stalkers to Monolith, but the process often failed making zombies if their brains get fully fired.
I would propose a slightly different theory to the operation mods: in his dialogue, Strider mentions that he was a part of the initial monolith push past the brain scorcher towards the center of the zone. So, what i think is the case, is that the brain scorcher can still recruit monolith fighters, but it does so much more crudely, half-zombifying them in the process. Whereas Strider and his gang were recruited via some other means, that were not quite as destructive.
From what I gathered, it seems that those who survive the psi-fields in body but not in mind become zombified, those who retain some of their skills but not personality are recruited as cannon fodder, those who maintain a high degree of intelligence become officers, and those who in addition to that manage to keep much of their personality - thus being able to seamlessly blend in - are given a task as agents, perhaps as a trial until they are recruited into the very heart of Monolith - both as an asset and to minimize the risk of defection. One of such agents was even invited into the C-Consciousness program, though it was under... special circumstances.
I like the theory of the brain scorcher having different modes but it makes sense to have it the other way around. 1 or 2 stalkers would be easy to convert to monolith compared to large groups. Catch out loners or small squads with the lower frequency control waves and for any serious massed threat crank it up to 11 and watch their minds dribble out their ears.
The "Agent' behavior seems very close to the idea of a Manchurian candidate aka a sleeper agent, it'd be really cool to find out Monolith agents have been performing tasks outside the zone all along.
@@anomalousdugout9557 I find it specially interesting because the implications of the Monolith having the ability to brainwash someone so effectively as to make them perform missions without them being aware of it are huge, it could be why the zone is locked down the way it is, what if a big part of the Ukrainian government has been brainwashed by the Monolith? There's a lot of world building opportunities.
I don't think you need to make the Brain Scorcher very complex. Sometimes it broadcasts more strongly, other times more weakly depending on circumstances in the zone / electricity. Some people are stronger willed, others less so, so that could be a factor in becoming either zombified or monolith. If a large group approaches, the Brain Scorcher has to interact with more people at once, thus the field becomes weaker, so they end up being brainwashed rather than zombified.
My theory is the brain scorchers choose their members selectively, experienced stalkers are turned into monolith soldiers, and rookies turned into zombies, which is why the zombies have weaker guns and armor and monolith have powerful guns and use tactics in their fight.
Another guess I might make about the brain scorcher is maybe in some parts of its region of influence, its signal could be disrupted by the local environment. Hills, mountains, large rock rock formations, central pripyat itself might all be able to interfere and mitigate the strength of the brain scorchers signal. In the situations where a stalker has managed to move into a less potent area, maybe they could avoid enough of the brain damage to not become zombified, however they could have enough damage to make them immediately susceptible to the C-con's influence, turning them into monolith fighters with relative ease. Also, only the most skilled stalkers would be able to make it as far as pripyat without having their brain utterly melted, making them a prime candidate for Monolith.
I love Stalker as a game. But never payed too much attention to the lore. Your videos help provide a wealth of information about a game I already adore. But now that I listen to its lore along with your amazing visualization. I appreciate this game so much more. Thank you very so much for this!
The Brain Scorcher could be operating as a phased array. Phased arrays allows you to change the magnitude and frequency in specific areas. A full-blast from a brain scorcher would likely have unpredictable field patterns where in some areas would be safe and others would melt your brain instantly, however overall the main body of the field would simply "scorch" your brain, zombifying you. If a phased array was intricately tuned and given variable power and frequencies, it would allow for more predictable effects and field patterns. Meaning it could shut off entire areas completely or have a more subtle effect on the mind (brainwashing). Great videos man, you have the deepest lore theories about STALKER on youtube!
There is a very interesting take I've seen in a STALKER iceberg that says there may be many different Brain Scorchers, because people can try to reach CNPP from different directions (and the one we disable is just one of them). Therefore the Monolith is probably much MUCH larger than we think.
Nice thanks for the lore knowledge sir!sometime in the future could you do a lore video on who is the tattoo artist marking the agents? Is there a monolith tattoo parlour an the CNPP? 😀
My thinking is that zombies are either failed Monolith or Monolith that spent too long as Monolith. Like- they decay the longer they go on in regards to Monolith and those who get turned into zombies stright away are people who "didn't make the cut". And for the difference between Psy Emission and Scorcher is that Scorcher is the accurate tool (as you said) and Psy Emissions are basically wild occurence, like a storm. You can make a campfire with a lightning strike but it's far easier to do it with a lighter, ya know.
I like the modes theory, but another possibility could be that its based off the individual stalkers ability to survive the process. This would mean the emitters could be operating at a constant output, and it would be on a stalker by stalker basis whether they get zombified, or if their minds are intact enough to become monolith.
I just completed my third playthrough of all three games in chronological order. I noticed a few things. -Monolith in Clear Sky are the original members, and may therefore be the strongest by the timeline of Shadow of Chernobyl -It can be assumed most of the Clear Sky faction presence at the Power Plant did NOT die during the emission at the end of the game; they instead either as you stated became zombified recruits, or brainwashed straight into the lower ranks of the Monolith soldiers -The C-Conciousness MAY STILL EXIST. Strelok MAY have indeed killed the bodies "attached" to C-Conciousness, but nonetheless there could very well be more administrative members in (or nearby to) the Zone. Monolith soldiers chanting "Oh Monolith, we do not hear you" has to do with the "Wish Granter" and the Wish Granter ALONE; lack of Monolith hearing the Monolith could be due to Space Bubbles, they may have weakened Psi-receptiveness, or other causes
my theory is the monolith stalkers are one who "survived" being zombified. maybe they had a natural resistance, maybe their helmet was just good enough to save them. the face out monolith could be zombies that have been partially healed through experimental brain surgery.
I think that Agents are solely responsible for keeping Monolith at strenght. They doing their little missions without knowing, they bringing all the supplys for future Monolith troops. Some Agents bringing parts of uniforms, others some specific piece of gear, "hot" guns, ammo. Maybe Bandit chieftains are also Agents. Some gear deliveries must be organised by Agents, and Monolith just snatch them. Without anybody knowing, it's organised by C-consciousness.
This channel is so unique! I really enjoy the informative content for one of my favourite games of all time. I always look forward to watching these videos before bed on a rainy night, after a day at work especially the campfire stories. Keep up the great work Anomalous Dugout!
Zombification is a side effect in the case of the Brain Scorcher, the BS never meant to Zombifie Stalkers, but as we seen the damage to the BS antennas, its possible that the power output got unstable and vary between who gets Zombified or Monolithians. Emissions are more of a happend unintentional thing, it was the effect of the scaring of the noosphere, the C-cons tried to contain it, they did, but not fully, they could weaken and make it more rare, but ultimately it'll happen eventually, and when the C-cons died, the Emissions got out hand and become a daily thing.
7:54 i THINK monolith soldiers actually flinch less than most stalkers, as they believe in the monolith so much that theyre able to ignore pain and only flinch when seriously injured (so its more of a leftover survival instinct than pain flinch). Im not 100% sure if thats true, but that would be a neat little detail if it is. STALKER's lore is really cool and quite a rabbit hole. I rememeber i bought the game when i was a kid because i thought it was a "haha, mutants in chernobyl go brrr" type of game, which... is kinda true, but the lore goes deep. Great video!
Yeah it's definitely possible, I just wanted to clear the fact that they can still feel some pain because I've seen people claiming it was not the case despite the obvious evidence. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Lore is quite deep indeed, hopefully I won't lose myself in it making more of those videos, thanks !
It'd make sense. They can suppress pain induced reactions but still get physically flinched because lead smacking you at high speeds has a habit of pushing you around, especially when absorbed by armor.
I think kill the strelok was originally scar's mission but ended up on strelok perhaps scar did that in a last ditch attempt to tell strelok that the treasure in the centre of the zone is a lie and that all stalkers were wrong.
that was a method from the brain scorcher to protect itself, either that pda was from someone or the simple method for it was sending him to kill himself
09:20, few months ago i found the same device in STALKER CoP in the Jupiter Complex Facility, near the platform for going in the Jupiter Undergrounds, inside a container there's a box, if you break that box you will find the same exact item, but it seems deactivated. Funny the fact that i play since 2008 and i never discovered it.
@@anomalousdugout9557 Surely in STALKER there are details we might still not know even after all these years, that's what makes this game awesome, i have always loved the effort in putting these details in map design, i hope the same will be in STALKER 2
Good video ! I always though the Cconsciousness decide what you'll become You are a poor stalker or rookie, you become a zombie but if you are a skilled warrior you'll be come a monolith soldier but the brainwash will transform you in zombie at long term as we saw monolith zombies in the Zone sometimes
They probably craft their suits themselves like many other factions. However there are two bits of info that contradict each other: you can find monolith suits in lab X18 implying that the armors were made before the second disaster, but dialogs in Clear Sky make it clear that the Monolith faction already had the same suits before being brainwashed. That's another mystery of the Zone. Oh and thank you !
@@anomalousdugout9557 Costumes in X-18 are a trace of unrealized ideas of devs. According to the original idea, the Monoliths were supposed to guard the entrance to this laboratory, and this would explain why this suit is there. But this idea was abandoned, the Monoliths were removed from there, and the suit was forgotten to be delete. The same story with the Dead City: it did not make it into the final version of the game, but in SoC there is a sign on the road that points the way there. And in the entire trilogy, the Dead City itself is not mentioned, and in CS, Red Forest was added instead.
This video is very very interesting I always thought that zombies were stalkers who were already dead but whose brains were not totally damaged and then reanimated by external means such as a controller or emmision
Well it could also be that in certain cases, but from what we see in Call of Pripyat with the controller's scene it is obvious that people are turned into zombies without dying first. But again, it is possible that it does not always happen like that, we just don't know.
I really appreciate the effort and time you put on making these videos, I know how difficult and time consuming making videos it might be since I used to upload videos to my channel, and on top of that you make S.T.A.L.K.E.R. videos (I've also made a video about why SoC is my favourite game of all time, although in Portuguese... And it wasn't easy to explain just a little bit of just the tip of the iceberg of the S.T.A.K.E.R. lore without making the listener lost, overwhelmed or giving spoilers) So thank you very much for contributing to the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. community the way you're doing :D
Thank you, I have to admit, making such videos is not easy. Sometimes I have to rewrite the script several times and I'm never sure it is going to be enough, hopefully people seem to like it ! I also wish I had more time to make more videos, but I value quality over quantity so I'm limited to 1 video every week despite having countless other ideas. So thanks again for your support, I appreaciate it and it really helps :)
I don't think the zombiefied roam randomly. I have seen them fight along side monolith troops. Pretty sure they are deployed as meat shields that shoots.
Great! But what about a video about the minors charatchers? Like Noah beard, Sultan , borov , the death of Wolf? And other? Thanks and great video again
Thanks, well I'm not sure if there is enough to be said about minor characters to make an interesting video. Also, Wolf does not always die. But maybe I'll do something in a future video, we'll see.
i think all your ponts have sense, probably another way to being a monolith is going near to those brainwashing artifacts, maybe they are hidden in order to cover possible blank points to the CNPP i also wanted to say that you put a lot of effort in these videos and i appreciate that, i love your videos a lot and i think you are one of the best channels out there about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Keep the good work man
Ever wondered what's behind that inaccessible blast door below the Brain scorcher control switch.. There are so many closed doors in Stalker that leaves me scratching my head.
I think this door was supposed to lead to the Pripyat underground which appeared in old cancelled versions of the game. The player had to take the tunnels to go to Pripyat, but not much more is known about it.
@@anomalousdugout9557 Well I'll pray for you to have it, man. There's a few people that cared for this game, and I want you to be on what people expected on the upcoming game.
There was one time where I injured a monolith soldier without killing him. While I was walking towers him to see what I could do, I heard the distinct sound of a grenade pin being pulled. They are truly financial.
""supposedly" destroyed the C Consciousness" nice, seeing as i theorize they might keep the original plot of CoP Strelok being a clone. Great video tho, you always make great content IMO ;)
@@mongke7858 Following some leaks from the old version of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 from 2010, theories have appeared reguarding the ending of Shadow of Chernobyl. According to these theories, Strelok never destroyed the C-Consciousness, it was all just an illusion, and the Strelok you meet in Call of Pripyat was just a clone, an agent sent by the C-Consciousness.
@@mongke7858 the devs released the plot for Stalker 2 in 2012 (thinking it would never release) it said that the plot twist would be the C-C never got destroyed, it was just a cover up
All those cuts about the Wish Granter, which i think wasn't covered on this channel before. Arguably one of the most interesting things in the Stalker games and the movie, along with the C-Consciousness. I wonder if there's any cut content or similar regarding that all the lore channels and game magazines might have missed when the games came out. The movie was also based on a novel? as i remember reading about it, so there's quite a bit of potential for that. But then again it used to appear a lot more mysterious back then, before seeing the endings and the Wish Granter turning out to be a scam. I don't remember the movie version of the Wish Granter as such or the C-Consciousness zombifying people though.
At 17:35 you said that the C-Consciousness used the Brain Scorcher to brainwash the original Monolith, when according to Strider (who was a member of the original Monolith), they actually got all the way to CNPP
Yes, that is correct. However, this does not mean that the Brain Scorcher can't turn people into Monolith members. Strider's memory seems to be inaccurate, and even if they did reach the CNPP it is possible that other devices than the Brain Scorcher exist. The C-Consciousness representative himself stated that the Brain Scorcher was only one of the fields from their network. The truth is, we simply don't know...
Obviously Strelok was exposed to more than just a blowout/brain scorcher device (as seen with the flashing TVs). My assumption is that Agents are harder to make, Zombies are just people exposed to the scorcher, and Monolith are the same as the agents, but designed for the purpose of grunt work.
Sorry to be posting on your videos so much! But I had a theory as well , although it might sound dumb. what if the c-consciousness "Chooses" who it wants to have as a monolithian fighter, and who to be a zombie? I'm not sure how they would, but maybe they judge them by willpower or something like that? Also, what if zombies were supposed to be monolithian fighters, but didn't properly get "converted", leaving them how they are in game. Just a thought, I hope it made some sense!
I like your theory! Though I don't entirely agree. I think that the psi emissions that cause zombies and all are always the same, and it's down to the individual whether they get their brain melted and become zombies, or they get controlled by the noosphere/c-conciousness, and the latter group is what C-C picks their agents from, stalkers who were particularly hardy against the brain scorcher or what have you (which explains why Strelok ended up picked to be an agent rather than a monolith member like the members of Clear Sky were, he's not only more hardy than most, he was wearing a device (though damaged by scar) protecting him from psi fields. The vast majority of people who either don't have any protection or are naturally weaker willed become zombies, those who are either more sympathetic to the cause (the original monolith faction) or are more willful (id argue a fair wack of people trying to go to the center of the zone fall under this) get brainwashed into Monolith. That's my theory at least!
My personal theory on why some of the Monolith are zombified has to do with the faction reputation, if a brainwashed stalker strays too far from the path set by the Monolith and the former C-Consciousness, they'll be misinformed when the next blowout will happen, and subsequently become Zombified to better serve their nefarious plots
some stalkers captured a monolith fanatic and in a PDA we can know the monolith soldier didnt trust them and escaped after killing the stalkers that have captured him
How canon are the books based on the games? In Alekszej Kalugin's Deadly Dreams (I don't know if that is the correct original name, backtranslated from the Hungarian version it is Deadly Dreams however) the brain scorcher actually have infinite modes. Or at least so many in different variations that it's impossible to count them all. From the most extreme like the zombification it's also capable of more simple emotions like emulating a hallucination state or just being drunk. In the book the scorcher makes different waves during the day but it's impossible to predict how deadly the next will be, or when will be or how long the current will last.
I noticed one strange zombie in my recent playthrough. Upon entering the room with the psy-emitter I went up the first stairs and then I had to retreat back. The gate from which I came was closed and new zombies had spawned there. Two of them were normal but one of them moved like a normal stalker. He did not have the mouthwrap and he aimed properly. I killed him and saw that, when searching his body, his group was "zombified" but unlike the other zombies, who don't have names other than "Zombified stalker", this one's name was "Artyom Scythe". I have no idea if this is a bug or an easteregg and I couldn't find any info on it. Note: his body armor was a Guardian of Freedom Suite and he had a uniqe PDA profile icon that I've never seen before.
Yes I know about this, the zombie you saw is called a "fresh" zombie. It is supposed to show what a human who just very recently became a zombie looks like. Exactly like Topol and his squad in Call of Pripyat if you let the Controller take over them. The one you saw is from Freedom because Lukash sent some of his men to try to recover the special healing military suit which is located in the factory above X16. If I remember correctly, two of these zombies spawn when you take the job to find the suit, one in the factory and one in the lab.
So glad I found this channel, just got into Stalker Anomaly having never played any Stalker game before and the Zone is just so interesting I want to know much more :)
@@anomalousdugout9557 By "just got into Anomaly" I mean like 80 hours in, I just love highly moddable games ^^ I will propably play the original games, are there mods that add modern gun models and animations? That's pretty important to me, the rest of the graphics are good anyways
@@boonamai8926 Alright. I'm sure there are such mods, but I never used any, so I don't have anything to recommend. I think you should be able to find what you're looking for on Moddb.
@@IW3X I didn't say modern guns. I said "modern models", I still run around with my Aks74u. CoD is crap and I already play EFT. I play CoP Gunslinger and Anomaly right now, pretty much exactly what I want....
I don't know if the books are ever translated to English, but I think they got published in Russian in addition to german. They explain what the c-consious really is and their objective. It's basically a group of scientists left over from the kgb who made some research in mind controlling. So basically, agents are hypnotized, Monolith are deeper hypnotized, and zombies are the product if the process fails. But it's not done with the brain scorcher, but it can turn you into a zombie. The tattoo is actually a symbiotic thing to control them. Which implies the Monolith have them also. But since agents work further away from the zones heart, the possibility of being directly controlled by the c-consious is much lesser. There are even agents working outside the zone in upper military to keep the supply chains free from military for the c-consious. The more zombie like Monolith are probably longer under the influence of the c-consious than the others and at one point end up probably as a zombie. This is my theory but the mental state of striders squad does support it. None of them act clearly as any other stalker and almost looks numb.
Sometimes the monolithians would say something. I cant remember the exact words, but it goes something like this. Что..я..? Нет. Монолитт ..дождь..вчера..мне холодно
@@anomalousdugout9557 I know but it’s the best thing stalker fans have to go on considering this is like the best channel for stalker info your doing great man
*Looks at "Сталкер" tattoo on left arm* Hmm...guess that explains why my trip to the reactor is nothing but a blank space. I remember getting to CNPP and the next thing I know I'm back in Cordon lol.
@@anomalousdugout9557 I honestly always felt like the cut zombies were the ultimate end of the monolithians. Like they start out as just being converted to monolithians or turned into agents, and over time their bodies just begin to degrade due to radiation, psy energy, and poor diets until they ultimately end up shambling around mumbling incoherently.
@@The_Cosmic_Navigator Yes, this could very well be the case. It's a bit sad that such zombies were cut, but to me it does not mean that they don't exist, only that we don't get to see them in game. Actually some of their corpses remain as props, so it kinda confirms that they still exist.
Hear me out here, but what if these three units could be moved between the three phases described, and not just between fanatic and stalker-type? Or at least such a thing could happen while the C-Consciousness was running the show. Zombies are more resistant to the environment, and arouse no suspicion. They can wander through the zone in clumps, called in a particular direction as they march without care for their physical bodies in happy dreams of their families that they will soon see again. Once the units that survive the crossing to where ever it is they are gathering, they begin to shift into fanatic mode. There they guard their muster point, rearm, and heal in preparation for doing whatever they were gathering to do. There are artifacts out there that can heal a body from an extremely near-death state to just dandy in a few hours (assuming proper radiation protection). People have dissected zombies to see how truly messed up their brains and other internal organs are, but has the same been done to the fanatics and the fully functioning Stalker type to compare?
i always wonder the most how they got their insane numbers, they must have at least 1-2k people, which is crazy considering the rest of the zone (free stalkers, bandits, duty, freedom&mercs) is maybe 300-1000, depending on the game&what time it's set in (as it does get more populated later, but also depopulated because of all the death i assume) think about it, they must've sent at least a hundred or two to the barrier by then (the attack in shadow of chernobyl already had 10s, and that wasn't the only of it's kind), you kill about 200-400 more of them in the rest of SoC, i'd say you kill at least 100-200 in clear sky and then at least another hundred in call of pripyat, though to be fair the monolith do seem a bit weaker, but more organized&smarter and less braindead in call of pripyat
I think Monolith uses the scorcher as a filter. Yes, they need troops, but they have different uses for bodies. Dumb stalkers killed by the scorcher are used as sentries and drones by being low cost zombies. They don’t need to invest resources into them as they have their own. Proper monolith soldiers are made from stringer emissions closer to the CNPP, as to get there, a stalker needs to be smart, resourceful, and well equipped, making better soldiers to invest resources into.
The modes of brainwashing do make sense although I think the half zombified and half monolith fighters are actually older monolith fighters whose minds and body are slowly deteriorating, this would explain why Strider and his group managed to break from control while the rest of the faction did not as they were probably recently recruited and their minds had not deteriorated to the point of no return. Things such as psi fields may be a key in recruiting monolith fighters as it doesn’t instantly fry your brain like an emission. this could explain how the monolith troops stumbled upon a loner who was in the process of “converting” due to him being caught in a psi field
Yes, that's definitely possible, but I think Strider says that they've been in the Monolith for a few years. If that's correct, I'm not sure if they really deteriorate.
My question is, how does the Brain Scorcher not turn Monolith fighters into zombified stalkers, when the more powerful mode is turned on? We never see zombified stalkers wearing Monolith uniforms, so clearly that doesn't happen.
Right that's a good question, to which I don't have an answer. Most likely the monolith soldiers have some sort of protection against psi-emissions, but who knows ? Everythink I said was just a theory after all, so maybe the truth is something else.
@@anomalousdugout9557 I dont know if it was ripped from the original game or created by modders but in Anomaly mod for stalker you can find journal of monolith convert, and in that journal its told that first entries were poorly written and incoherent rambling and then later notes were better written and more coherent with final notes made with very precise writing. That makes it possible to assume that everyone always turns into zombies until slowly evolving into monolith/agents, maby those zombie looking monoliths were a 1st stage zombie-monolith conversion.
@@tezwoacz I think this is made by the modders, but it is indeed possible that it happens like that. The "animal" state mentionned in the PDA entry at the end of the video could be that zombie stage, and it would also explain other stuff which we will take a look at in the next "Lore & Theories" video.
If the scorcher can use emissions to remove minds maybe it could also "install" a certain behavior to protect the monolith more effectively. Kinda like the programmed clone soldiers in F.E.A.R
i really like this video but i think you got only one thing wrong marked one is strelok,and scar was to kill strelok so he may have gotten his pda instead of his own not sure if that is it or not but still,good video keep it up!
Of course Marked One is Strelok, but that does not change anything. Scar was never tasked to kill Strelok, only to stop him. Besides, the design of their PDAs are clearly different, so I'm quite sure they're not the same.
In the beginning cutscene, the driver appears to be wearing a suit of the Duty faction. It's most likely an agent programmed to just drive and follow the road, but who knows...
I remember very recently, I was replaying Call of Pripyat, and decided for once to investigate the Jupiter factory a bit more in depth and found one of those devices in a box like the one in 9:08. It was pretty well hidden inside some crates and in between some debris. The device itself seemed to be active as it was lit but no emissions of any type were being irradiated by it. Shooting it also seemed to break it as the light went off when I shot it. I kinda wonder if it was to serve another purpose but was ultimately scrapped
Yeah I know this one, I guess it's a small secret hinting at the fact that such devices were maybe manufactured in the factory. Maybe we'll learn more about this device in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2, who knows ?
There is a spot before you get to the reactor to get a monolith suit. But you will die of radiation using it. To bad I never found a way to go backwards in the game with goodies. I need this game on android. Still have the pc version from 2007
I seem to remember that Zombies are NOT hostile to Monolith and vice versa. Monolith would seem to be on a "spectrum of zombification", so it makes sense that there would be more and less zombified Monolith. Perhaps that´s also why only some Monolith like Strider broke free. Others were too far gone in terms of brain damage.
@@raphmaster23 In that case you should try stealth, I'm told that with some luck and skill it is possible to almost completely avoid fighting them in the later sections of Shadow of Chernobyl.
@@anomalousdugout9557 oh lordy idk if I'm that skilled lol. I had to start a new game on SOC my first playthrough cause I had nothing for the ending, no armor, no anti rad, no artifacts for radiation lol. But doing the story for Strider in COP woke me up to the plight of the Monolith guys
Making a monolith troop is like cooking a steak You cant cook them too much or else they will be worse You cant cook them too shortly or else they will still be zombies
Well... IMHO Monolith was trying to keep Zone on a leash, and not consume the world at the end. Zone wis not only a threat but also an opportunity for new technologies. Like power sources from artifacts. Monolith understood it.
I think you mean the C-Consciousness, not the Monolith. Stalkers of the Monolith faction are just manipulated into following orders, they don't know what is going on. It was the scientists of the C-Consciousness who were behind all of this.
It's more likely that Mode 1 "Zombified" persons are the result of a failed Mode 2 "Monolithian" indoctrination. This would indicate that people have different dispositions to withstand psy-emissions or control. It means that Mode 1 individuals were too weak to withstand the full indoctrination that Mode 2 Monolithians undergo. Mode 3 "Zombo-monolithians" are probably a mixed result, meaning that their psy-resistance was not so weak that their "brain was scorched" but that they also were not resilient enough to survive a full indoctrination. It does make sense that Mode 1 would be a deterrence measure, but also we have to keep the original concept of the C-Consciousness. Their goal was to find a way to control humanity, in a sense, by removing negative emotions from the noosphere. Maybe these efforts that we see in Modes 1-3 are not necessarily deliberately different; maybe these are experiments by the C-Consciousness to fulfill their ultimate goal. P.S. I am a new S.T.A.L.K.E.R. player so there is a high chance that I am missing key information or plot points.
The greatest question is - how is there still functional electricity in the Zone and who is paying the bills :D Imagine how many watts the Scorcher eats
I don't think that the Brainscorcher is directly responsible for making Monolith converts. How I see it: Psy storms are a raw form of what the Brainscorcher does. In both cases, Stalkers get their brains fried, and they become zombies. Zombies are not hostile to Monolith. When they are created by a psy storm, they just wander the zone and deteriorate to the zombies we see all over. When the C-consciousness makes the brainscorcher do its thing, Monolith troops instead carry the victims away to be converted, some become Monoliths, other Agents, it depends on the brainwashing done. In all cases the procedure is likely incredibly invasive and results can vary. That's why people are never the same, even if they recover or deconvert. Agents are driven out of the center by death trucks to follow their individual missions, I suppose some of them may even leave the zone entirely to influence the outside world, or procure resources for the Monolith. I have a feeling the C-consciousness is probably rather hands off, they got the ball rolling with the wishgranter, the Monolith and the Agents, the rest is sort of like a running experiment, that's why the Monolith keep doing what they do even after the pods of the C-consciousness are destroyed by Strelok.
the lore of where monolith gets their equipment is also interesting. Apparently this equipment was stored in some laboratory in chernobyl, so that means that monolith was planned even before the disaster that created the zone, infact its very possible that "trying to achieve world piece" as told by c-con was an attempt to zombifie the entire world, which fortunately backfired on them.
Yeah there is a real mystery behind the Monolith's equipment. You can find monolith armors in lab X18, but some dialogs in Clear Sky suggest that the faction had these uniforms before even before being brainwashed. I guess we'll never now the truth.
Monolith tend to use NATO eq which is imported to Ukraine. The first Stalkers might be actually governement groups or something
@@____.__._.._ military groups, ukraine, nato and mercs certainly made it to the npp first so if they were "original" monolith it makes sense that their equipment is western made.
@@____.__._.._ hmmm in that case they might really have some western "sponsor"
I think the faction existed0 before that nuclear disaster, it was prbably a millitary one seeing how unique their equipment and camo on their clothing looks like.
11:03 in Clear Sky, after the laboratory X-16's cooling is stabilized, the zombified stalkers in the area will turn normal, yet still hostile. They move like a normal human after the psy-emission is gone.
Yes, you are absolutely right!
dont the zombies have permanent brain damage, like they say their brain is "melted"?
@@o-hogameplay185 look closely the comment, they are hostile because its permanent damage but its not advanced to the point to screw their movement
Scorcher's operating modes theory is so cool. It explains a lot, it doesn't contradict anything and it make so much sense, Awesome idea and great video.
Thanks, I think that it's a pretty great theory as well !
The one about the agent wanting to carry out his task at all costs is very interesting for the player's first playthrough in shadow of chernobyl, let me explain
You've probably never played this game before, And so when you get to know that your main objective is to kill strelok, you either don't pay too much attention to it or over time you start thinking when will you get to kill that strelok guy? Whenever it will be offered to you you will most likely try to get intel on who or what strelok is, until you realize you're strelok. You basically become an agent IRL.
Yeah and it explains why the Marked One accepts so many difficult and dangerous missions without much care, he is ready to do anything to find any piece of information about Strelok.
i love this channel, i hope it grows and gets all the attention it deserves
Thank you stalker.
You forgot to mention the legend... the mystery
The guy who took out that one antenna in the brain scorcher with an RPG, without psy protection.
Who was he?
From what i remember in the entry - he just literally climbed up the tower and shot the RPG. What a madlad
He's the reason the brain scorcher is not so deadly anymore, as in clear sky - if you try to enter the red forest - you die almost instantly.
Who was he? He was a good stalker.
He wore a tinfoil hat.
@@gowanlore2434yeah that would actually work since veterans of the zone has wire mesh in their helmets.
You sure are making a name for yourself in the stalker community, every time on Reddit posts asking what the best stalker content creator is, you always are on those lists! You’re doing good! Interesting video too.
Wait really ? That's interesting. Thank you stalker !
The monolith soldiers that you said looked like zombies makes me believe that these were perhaps stalkers who had an unadjusted psy helmet meaning that perhaps a little bit of their brains were damaged by either yantar, anomalies or controllers before but they managed to survive. Some stalkers that you talk to talk about that they have nightmares about seeing controllers after fighting them and having hallucinations. and then sometime after that they went to the center of the zone and became brainwashed by the brain schorcher
I just wanna say that I really appreciate what you do because I just recently began playing the Stalker games and after my first shadow of chernobyl playthrough I was so surprised how much stuff I actually missed.
Thanks, I know right, there is so much stuff hidden in the world of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. that it will take you several playthroughs to get everything. And even after thousands of hours playing the games, there are still many mysteries and things you just don't understand that will remain stuck in your head. Anyway, good luck in the Zone stalker !
I always thought that the brain scorcher was used to convert Stalkers to Monolith, but the process often failed making zombies if their brains get fully fired.
Yes, that makes sense.
I love how this theories helps to enrich the stalker lore.
That's perfect then.
I would propose a slightly different theory to the operation mods: in his dialogue, Strider mentions that he was a part of the initial monolith push past the brain scorcher towards the center of the zone. So, what i think is the case, is that the brain scorcher can still recruit monolith fighters, but it does so much more crudely, half-zombifying them in the process. Whereas Strider and his gang were recruited via some other means, that were not quite as destructive.
From what I gathered, it seems that those who survive the psi-fields in body but not in mind become zombified, those who retain some of their skills but not personality are recruited as cannon fodder, those who maintain a high degree of intelligence become officers, and those who in addition to that manage to keep much of their personality - thus being able to seamlessly blend in - are given a task as agents, perhaps as a trial until they are recruited into the very heart of Monolith - both as an asset and to minimize the risk of defection. One of such agents was even invited into the C-Consciousness program, though it was under... special circumstances.
I like the theory of the brain scorcher having different modes but it makes sense to have it the other way around. 1 or 2 stalkers would be easy to convert to monolith compared to large groups. Catch out loners or small squads with the lower frequency control waves and for any serious massed threat crank it up to 11 and watch their minds dribble out their ears.
Yeah that also makes sense.
The "Agent' behavior seems very close to the idea of a Manchurian candidate aka a sleeper agent, it'd be really cool to find out Monolith agents have been performing tasks outside the zone all along.
Yeah maybe we'll learn more about agents other than Marked One in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2, who knows ?
@@anomalousdugout9557 I find it specially interesting because the implications of the Monolith having the ability to brainwash someone so effectively as to make them perform missions without them being aware of it are huge, it could be why the zone is locked down the way it is, what if a big part of the Ukrainian government has been brainwashed by the Monolith? There's a lot of world building opportunities.
I don't think you need to make the Brain Scorcher very complex. Sometimes it broadcasts more strongly, other times more weakly depending on circumstances in the zone / electricity. Some people are stronger willed, others less so, so that could be a factor in becoming either zombified or monolith. If a large group approaches, the Brain Scorcher has to interact with more people at once, thus the field becomes weaker, so they end up being brainwashed rather than zombified.
Yeah maybe that's true.
My theory is the brain scorchers choose their members selectively, experienced stalkers are turned into monolith soldiers, and rookies turned into zombies, which is why the zombies have weaker guns and armor and monolith have powerful guns and use tactics in their fight.
Another guess I might make about the brain scorcher is maybe in some parts of its region of influence, its signal could be disrupted by the local environment. Hills, mountains, large rock rock formations, central pripyat itself might all be able to interfere and mitigate the strength of the brain scorchers signal.
In the situations where a stalker has managed to move into a less potent area, maybe they could avoid enough of the brain damage to not become zombified, however they could have enough damage to make them immediately susceptible to the C-con's influence, turning them into monolith fighters with relative ease.
Also, only the most skilled stalkers would be able to make it as far as pripyat without having their brain utterly melted, making them a prime candidate for Monolith.
Yes, that's probably right. Thanks for sharing this idea.
That would make sense. Proof you’re physically and mentally powerful, and you clearly got great gear. No reason not to have you aboard.
I love Stalker as a game. But never payed too much attention to the lore. Your videos help provide a wealth of information about a game I already adore. But now that I listen to its lore along with your amazing visualization. I appreciate this game so much more. Thank you very so much for this!
I'm glad to read that, thanks!
The Brain Scorcher could be operating as a phased array.
Phased arrays allows you to change the magnitude and frequency in specific areas. A full-blast from a brain scorcher would likely have unpredictable field patterns where in some areas would be safe and others would melt your brain instantly, however overall the main body of the field would simply "scorch" your brain, zombifying you.
If a phased array was intricately tuned and given variable power and frequencies, it would allow for more predictable effects and field patterns. Meaning it could shut off entire areas completely or have a more subtle effect on the mind (brainwashing).
Great videos man, you have the deepest lore theories about STALKER on youtube!
There is a very interesting take I've seen in a STALKER iceberg that says there may be many different Brain Scorchers, because people can try to reach CNPP from different directions (and the one we disable is just one of them). Therefore the Monolith is probably much MUCH larger than we think.
Nice thanks for the lore knowledge sir!sometime in the future could you do a lore video on who is the tattoo artist marking the agents? Is there a monolith tattoo parlour an the CNPP? 😀
You are welcome ! Oh I never though about that but I guess they do have a tattoo artist, or maybe it's a machine that does it ? Who knows...
My thinking is that zombies are either failed Monolith or Monolith that spent too long as Monolith.
Like- they decay the longer they go on in regards to Monolith and those who get turned into zombies stright away are people who "didn't make the cut".
And for the difference between Psy Emission and Scorcher is that Scorcher is the accurate tool (as you said) and Psy Emissions are basically wild occurence, like a storm.
You can make a campfire with a lightning strike but it's far easier to do it with a lighter, ya know.
I like the modes theory, but another possibility could be that its based off the individual stalkers ability to survive the process. This would mean the emitters could be operating at a constant output, and it would be on a stalker by stalker basis whether they get zombified, or if their minds are intact enough to become monolith.
Yeah it's definitely possible, who knows ?
This
I just completed my third playthrough of all three games in chronological order.
I noticed a few things.
-Monolith in Clear Sky are the original members, and may therefore be the strongest by the timeline of Shadow of Chernobyl
-It can be assumed most of the Clear Sky faction presence at the Power Plant did NOT die during the emission at the end of the game; they instead either as you stated became zombified recruits, or brainwashed straight into the lower ranks of the Monolith soldiers
-The C-Conciousness MAY STILL EXIST. Strelok MAY have indeed killed the bodies "attached" to C-Conciousness, but nonetheless there could very well be more administrative members in (or nearby to) the Zone. Monolith soldiers chanting "Oh Monolith, we do not hear you" has to do with the "Wish Granter" and the Wish Granter ALONE; lack of Monolith hearing the Monolith could be due to Space Bubbles, they may have weakened Psi-receptiveness, or other causes
my theory is the monolith stalkers are one who "survived" being zombified. maybe they had a natural resistance, maybe their helmet was just good enough to save them. the face out monolith could be zombies that have been partially healed through experimental brain surgery.
Wish granter:what Will you wish?
Monolith:i want all my fallen brother rise again
Everybody in Cordon:ah Blyat here we go again
That would be a problem, imagine a thousand if not more monolithians getting back from the dead !
@@anomalousdugout9557 except wishgranter doesent actually grants wishes but fries your brain.
@@tezwoacz Yes, that's right.
@@tezwoacz Well, it can grant wishes... kinda. Like, it can blind you, can turn you into stone, etc.
Wish granter would probably rise them as literal zombies killing the monolith themselves
I think that Agents are solely responsible for keeping Monolith at strenght. They doing their little missions without knowing, they bringing all the supplys for future Monolith troops. Some Agents bringing parts of uniforms, others some specific piece of gear, "hot" guns, ammo. Maybe Bandit chieftains are also Agents. Some gear deliveries must be organised by Agents, and Monolith just snatch them. Without anybody knowing, it's organised by C-consciousness.
This channel is so unique! I really enjoy the informative content for one of my favourite games of all time. I always look forward to watching these videos before bed on a rainy night, after a day at work especially the campfire stories. Keep up the great work Anomalous Dugout!
Thank you, glad you like the videos. I will keep up the work !
Zombification is a side effect in the case of the Brain Scorcher, the BS never meant to Zombifie Stalkers, but as we seen the damage to the BS antennas, its possible that the power output got unstable and vary between who gets Zombified or Monolithians. Emissions are more of a happend unintentional thing, it was the effect of the scaring of the noosphere, the C-cons tried to contain it, they did, but not fully, they could weaken and make it more rare, but ultimately it'll happen eventually, and when the C-cons died, the Emissions got out hand and become a daily thing.
Yes, that's probably what is going on. You are definitely right about the emissions.
ooOO hell yeah finally lore creator in english!!! my russian is too piss poor to understand the other lore videos, thank you for your work man!
Yes, it was one of the reasons why this channel was created. Welcome stalker!
As a monolith soldier, i can confirm that i activated a grenade when people going to execute me
7:54 i THINK monolith soldiers actually flinch less than most stalkers, as they believe in the monolith so much that theyre able to ignore pain and only flinch when seriously injured (so its more of a leftover survival instinct than pain flinch). Im not 100% sure if thats true, but that would be a neat little detail if it is.
STALKER's lore is really cool and quite a rabbit hole. I rememeber i bought the game when i was a kid because i thought it was a "haha, mutants in chernobyl go brrr" type of game, which... is kinda true, but the lore goes deep. Great video!
Yeah it's definitely possible, I just wanted to clear the fact that they can still feel some pain because I've seen people claiming it was not the case despite the obvious evidence. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Lore is quite deep indeed, hopefully I won't lose myself in it making more of those videos, thanks !
It'd make sense. They can suppress pain induced reactions but still get physically flinched because lead smacking you at high speeds has a habit of pushing you around, especially when absorbed by armor.
I love this channel, I thank you for this information and keep up the good work!
Thank you stalker, I will !
I think kill the strelok was originally scar's mission but ended up on strelok perhaps scar did that in a last ditch attempt to tell strelok that the treasure in the centre of the zone is a lie and that all stalkers were wrong.
That's one possibility. Besides there's no one who will tend to hunt down Strelok and his men except Scar.
that was a method from the brain scorcher to protect itself, either that pda was from someone or the simple method for it was sending him to kill himself
I am likening the videos you are producing about stalker. Keep up the good work man.
Thanks, I will !
Listen one monolit stalker 2..
I enjoy your vids so much , hope your channel will get to 100k
Thanks, we will never get there but thanks !
@@anomalousdugout9557 hopefully one day we will
@@anomalousdugout9557 maybe after S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2
09:20, few months ago i found the same device in STALKER CoP in the Jupiter Complex Facility, near the platform for going in the Jupiter Undergrounds, inside a container there's a box, if you break that box you will find the same exact item, but it seems deactivated.
Funny the fact that i play since 2008 and i never discovered it.
Yes, I know about that one. Trust me, when I will get to talk about the Jupiter factory in a future video, this detail will not be missed.
@@anomalousdugout9557 Surely in STALKER there are details we might still not know even after all these years, that's what makes this game awesome, i have always loved the effort in putting these details in map design, i hope the same will be in STALKER 2
@@Kuro-UWU Yes, that's right, I definitely agree!
Good video !
I always though the Cconsciousness decide what you'll become
You are a poor stalker or rookie, you become a zombie but if you are a skilled warrior you'll be come a monolith soldier but the brainwash will transform you in zombie at long term as we saw monolith zombies in the Zone sometimes
Thanks ! Well maybe it sometimes happen like that, be there are some Exoskelton zombies so I don't think that's really the case.
@@anomalousdugout9557 you got me here !
As a member of freedom, hunting monolith crazies is the only thing I enjoy more then hunting duty members
Alright, I understand.
The real question is who makes the monolith suits
Seriously, though, your channel has so much good stuff. Thank you for the work you're doing.
They probably craft their suits themselves like many other factions. However there are two bits of info that contradict each other: you can find monolith suits in lab X18 implying that the armors were made before the second disaster, but dialogs in Clear Sky make it clear that the Monolith faction already had the same suits before being brainwashed. That's another mystery of the Zone. Oh and thank you !
@@anomalousdugout9557 Costumes in X-18 are a trace of unrealized ideas of devs. According to the original idea, the Monoliths were supposed to guard the entrance to this laboratory, and this would explain why this suit is there. But this idea was abandoned, the Monoliths were removed from there, and the suit was forgotten to be delete. The same story with the Dead City: it did not make it into the final version of the game, but in SoC there is a sign on the road that points the way there. And in the entire trilogy, the Dead City itself is not mentioned, and in CS, Red Forest was added instead.
@lydlanski the devs planned for the monolith group to use bandits as a meat shield ib the dark valley
This video is very very interesting
I always thought that zombies were stalkers who were already dead but whose brains were not totally damaged and then reanimated by external means such as a controller or emmision
Well it could also be that in certain cases, but from what we see in Call of Pripyat with the controller's scene it is obvious that people are turned into zombies without dying first. But again, it is possible that it does not always happen like that, we just don't know.
@@anomalousdugout9557 I see
I loves these kinds of videos! Keep up the good work!
Thanks, I will !
I really appreciate the effort and time you put on making these videos, I know how difficult and time consuming making videos it might be since I used to upload videos to my channel, and on top of that you make S.T.A.L.K.E.R. videos (I've also made a video about why SoC is my favourite game of all time, although in Portuguese... And it wasn't easy to explain just a little bit of just the tip of the iceberg of the S.T.A.K.E.R. lore without making the listener lost, overwhelmed or giving spoilers)
So thank you very much for contributing to the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. community the way you're doing :D
Thank you, I have to admit, making such videos is not easy. Sometimes I have to rewrite the script several times and I'm never sure it is going to be enough, hopefully people seem to like it ! I also wish I had more time to make more videos, but I value quality over quantity so I'm limited to 1 video every week despite having countless other ideas. So thanks again for your support, I appreaciate it and it really helps :)
I don't think the zombiefied roam randomly. I have seen them fight along side monolith troops. Pretty sure they are deployed as meat shields that shoots.
It's possible, for the zombies at the Brain Scorcher at least. The same idea can be said for the controllers, who use zombies to protect themselves.
I always thought monoliths were people who fell in love with artifacts
You could say they fell in love with a big shiny rock.
Technically the monolith is a huge artifact so you aint wrong
Great! But what about a video about the minors charatchers? Like Noah beard, Sultan , borov , the death of Wolf? And other? Thanks and great video again
Thanks, well I'm not sure if there is enough to be said about minor characters to make an interesting video. Also, Wolf does not always die. But maybe I'll do something in a future video, we'll see.
That's like one of the most true stalker videos done for the western audience. Supperb job!
i think all your ponts have sense, probably another way to being a monolith is going near to those brainwashing artifacts, maybe they are hidden in order to cover possible blank points to the CNPP
i also wanted to say that you put a lot of effort in these videos and i appreciate that, i love your videos a lot and i think you are one of the best channels out there about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Keep the good work man
Thank you stalker, it is true that I work hard on those videos, and I will keep doing that !
Ever wondered what's behind that inaccessible blast door below the Brain scorcher control switch.. There are so many closed doors in Stalker that leaves me scratching my head.
I think this door was supposed to lead to the Pripyat underground which appeared in old cancelled versions of the game. The player had to take the tunnels to go to Pripyat, but not much more is known about it.
@@anomalousdugout9557 The game developers really love underground mission huh?
@@denominagainatedableus13ye5 Yeah they do, the Zone is full of undergrounds everywhere, we actually visit only a small fraction of them in the games.
Man, I hope you can get the Stalker 2 early and makes more of these video, subscribing now!
Thanks, but let's be real, it won't happen.
@@anomalousdugout9557 Well I'll pray for you to have it, man. There's a few people that cared for this game, and I want you to be on what people expected on the upcoming game.
There was one time where I injured a monolith soldier without killing him. While I was walking towers him to see what I could do, I heard the distinct sound of a grenade pin being pulled. They are truly financial.
They only do that in mods, in vanilla games they don't suicide like that as far as I know.
Absolutely great video man, your channel is very underrated and you make some very high quality stalker content
Thank you stalker.
""supposedly" destroyed the C Consciousness" nice, seeing as i theorize they might keep the original plot of CoP Strelok being a clone.
Great video tho, you always make great content IMO ;)
Yeah you never know, I prefer to take my precautions. Thanks !
"the original plot of CoP Strelok being a clone." what?
@@mongke7858 Following some leaks from the old version of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 from 2010, theories have appeared reguarding the ending of Shadow of Chernobyl. According to these theories, Strelok never destroyed the C-Consciousness, it was all just an illusion, and the Strelok you meet in Call of Pripyat was just a clone, an agent sent by the C-Consciousness.
@@mongke7858 the devs released the plot for Stalker 2 in 2012 (thinking it would never release) it said that the plot twist would be the C-C never got destroyed, it was just a cover up
@@anomalousdugout9557 Interesting. Can I get a link to look at the leaks if they are still around?
All those cuts about the Wish Granter, which i think wasn't covered on this channel before.
Arguably one of the most interesting things in the Stalker games and the movie, along with the C-Consciousness.
I wonder if there's any cut content or similar regarding that all the lore channels and game magazines might have missed when the games came out.
The movie was also based on a novel? as i remember reading about it, so there's quite a bit of potential for that.
But then again it used to appear a lot more mysterious back then, before seeing the endings and the Wish Granter turning out to be a scam.
I don't remember the movie version of the Wish Granter as such or the C-Consciousness zombifying people though.
19:05 some monolithians in soc and cop sound like clear sky members
At 17:35 you said that the C-Consciousness used the Brain Scorcher to brainwash the original Monolith, when according to Strider (who was a member of the original Monolith), they actually got all the way to CNPP
Yes, that is correct. However, this does not mean that the Brain Scorcher can't turn people into Monolith members. Strider's memory seems to be inaccurate, and even if they did reach the CNPP it is possible that other devices than the Brain Scorcher exist. The C-Consciousness representative himself stated that the Brain Scorcher was only one of the fields from their network. The truth is, we simply don't know...
@@anomalousdugout9557 good points. Hope Stalker 2 relieves the biggest anomaly of all: inconsistencies
Obviously Strelok was exposed to more than just a blowout/brain scorcher device (as seen with the flashing TVs).
My assumption is that Agents are harder to make, Zombies are just people exposed to the scorcher, and Monolith are the same as the agents, but designed for the purpose of grunt work.
Yeah, that's probably the case.
Sorry to be posting on your videos so much! But I had a theory as well , although it might sound dumb. what if the c-consciousness "Chooses" who it wants to have as a monolithian fighter, and who to be a zombie? I'm not sure how they would, but maybe they judge them by willpower or something like that?
Also, what if zombies were supposed to be monolithian fighters, but didn't properly get "converted", leaving them how they are in game. Just a thought, I hope it made some sense!
No problem, it's nice to read your thoughts. These theories make sense, maybe that's what is going on, who knows?
I remember coming across zombies in a campfire, it’s almost like they are primitive but human
Humming the tune to a song not quite remembered, is how it always feels to me.
Good and interesting video, keep 'em coming!
Thanks, I will.
I like your theory! Though I don't entirely agree. I think that the psi emissions that cause zombies and all are always the same, and it's down to the individual whether they get their brain melted and become zombies, or they get controlled by the noosphere/c-conciousness, and the latter group is what C-C picks their agents from, stalkers who were particularly hardy against the brain scorcher or what have you (which explains why Strelok ended up picked to be an agent rather than a monolith member like the members of Clear Sky were, he's not only more hardy than most, he was wearing a device (though damaged by scar) protecting him from psi fields. The vast majority of people who either don't have any protection or are naturally weaker willed become zombies, those who are either more sympathetic to the cause (the original monolith faction) or are more willful (id argue a fair wack of people trying to go to the center of the zone fall under this) get brainwashed into Monolith. That's my theory at least!
My personal theory on why some of the Monolith are zombified has to do with the faction reputation, if a brainwashed stalker strays too far from the path set by the Monolith and the former C-Consciousness, they'll be misinformed when the next blowout will happen, and subsequently become Zombified to better serve their nefarious plots
some stalkers captured a monolith fanatic and in a PDA we can know the monolith soldier didnt trust them and escaped after killing the stalkers that have captured him
its a great explanation, friend. thanks for it
No problem stalker.
How canon are the books based on the games? In Alekszej Kalugin's Deadly Dreams (I don't know if that is the correct original name, backtranslated from the Hungarian version it is Deadly Dreams however) the brain scorcher actually have infinite modes. Or at least so many in different variations that it's impossible to count them all. From the most extreme like the zombification it's also capable of more simple emotions like emulating a hallucination state or just being drunk. In the book the scorcher makes different waves during the day but it's impossible to predict how deadly the next will be, or when will be or how long the current will last.
As far as I know, none of the books are canon. But that's interesting nonetheless.
I noticed one strange zombie in my recent playthrough. Upon entering the room with the psy-emitter I went up the first stairs and then I had to retreat back. The gate from which I came was closed and new zombies had spawned there. Two of them were normal but one of them moved like a normal stalker. He did not have the mouthwrap and he aimed properly.
I killed him and saw that, when searching his body, his group was "zombified" but unlike the other zombies, who don't have names other than "Zombified stalker", this one's name was "Artyom Scythe".
I have no idea if this is a bug or an easteregg and I couldn't find any info on it.
Note: his body armor was a Guardian of Freedom Suite and he had a uniqe PDA profile icon that I've never seen before.
Yes I know about this, the zombie you saw is called a "fresh" zombie. It is supposed to show what a human who just very recently became a zombie looks like. Exactly like Topol and his squad in Call of Pripyat if you let the Controller take over them. The one you saw is from Freedom because Lukash sent some of his men to try to recover the special healing military suit which is located in the factory above X16. If I remember correctly, two of these zombies spawn when you take the job to find the suit, one in the factory and one in the lab.
@@anomalousdugout9557 Oh that's really cool
So glad I found this channel, just got into Stalker Anomaly having never played any Stalker game before and the Zone is just so interesting I want to know much more :)
I suggest you play the original games before Anomaly. That way you will discover the real lore of the Zone.
@@anomalousdugout9557 By "just got into Anomaly" I mean like 80 hours in, I just love highly moddable games ^^ I will propably play the original games, are there mods that add modern gun models and animations? That's pretty important to me, the rest of the graphics are good anyways
@@boonamai8926 Alright. I'm sure there are such mods, but I never used any, so I don't have anything to recommend. I think you should be able to find what you're looking for on Moddb.
@@boonamai8926 go play cod already or eft if you want modern guns lol
@@IW3X I didn't say modern guns. I said "modern models", I still run around with my Aks74u. CoD is crap and I already play EFT. I play CoP Gunslinger and Anomaly right now, pretty much exactly what I want....
I like to imagine that if you are out during an emission, you are zombied. Psi-storms are the zones way of turning zombies into Monolith agents.
I made 2 complete videos about emissions, and found out that blowouts simply kill you. Besides, psy-storms only exist in mods.
I don't know if the books are ever translated to English, but I think they got published in Russian in addition to german. They explain what the c-consious really is and their objective. It's basically a group of scientists left over from the kgb who made some research in mind controlling. So basically, agents are hypnotized, Monolith are deeper hypnotized, and zombies are the product if the process fails. But it's not done with the brain scorcher, but it can turn you into a zombie. The tattoo is actually a symbiotic thing to control them. Which implies the Monolith have them also. But since agents work further away from the zones heart, the possibility of being directly controlled by the c-consious is much lesser. There are even agents working outside the zone in upper military to keep the supply chains free from military for the c-consious.
The more zombie like Monolith are probably longer under the influence of the c-consious than the others and at one point end up probably as a zombie.
This is my theory but the mental state of striders squad does support it. None of them act clearly as any other stalker and almost looks numb.
Sometimes the monolithians would say something.
I cant remember the exact words, but it goes something like this.
Что..я..? Нет. Монолитт
..дождь..вчера..мне холодно
Yeah that's right, I don't know russian but I've seen this before.
basically, scorched zombie→sentient brain washed monolith→elite monolith(inside the nuclear power plant)
Yeah, or the other way around.
I like your accent friend there are not a lot of lore channels about stalker
Thanks, yeah that's why I created mine in the first place.
Thanks for the lore as always!
You are welcome, and keep in mind that many of the things said were just theories.
@@anomalousdugout9557 I know but it’s the best thing stalker fans have to go on considering this is like the best channel for stalker info your doing great man
*Looks at "Сталкер" tattoo on left arm* Hmm...guess that explains why my trip to the reactor is nothing but a blank space. I remember getting to CNPP and the next thing I know I'm back in Cordon lol.
Indeed.
@@anomalousdugout9557 I honestly always felt like the cut zombies were the ultimate end of the monolithians. Like they start out as just being converted to monolithians or turned into agents, and over time their bodies just begin to degrade due to radiation, psy energy, and poor diets until they ultimately end up shambling around mumbling incoherently.
@@The_Cosmic_Navigator Yes, this could very well be the case. It's a bit sad that such zombies were cut, but to me it does not mean that they don't exist, only that we don't get to see them in game. Actually some of their corpses remain as props, so it kinda confirms that they still exist.
Hear me out here, but what if these three units could be moved between the three phases described, and not just between fanatic and stalker-type? Or at least such a thing could happen while the C-Consciousness was running the show. Zombies are more resistant to the environment, and arouse no suspicion. They can wander through the zone in clumps, called in a particular direction as they march without care for their physical bodies in happy dreams of their families that they will soon see again. Once the units that survive the crossing to where ever it is they are gathering, they begin to shift into fanatic mode. There they guard their muster point, rearm, and heal in preparation for doing whatever they were gathering to do. There are artifacts out there that can heal a body from an extremely near-death state to just dandy in a few hours (assuming proper radiation protection). People have dissected zombies to see how truly messed up their brains and other internal organs are, but has the same been done to the fanatics and the fully functioning Stalker type to compare?
nice theory, ya earned a new subscriber man. Keep up the good work
Thanks!
i always wonder the most how they got their insane numbers, they must have at least 1-2k people, which is crazy considering the rest of the zone (free stalkers, bandits, duty, freedom&mercs) is maybe 300-1000, depending on the game&what time it's set in (as it does get more populated later, but also depopulated because of all the death i assume)
think about it, they must've sent at least a hundred or two to the barrier by then (the attack in shadow of chernobyl already had 10s, and that wasn't the only of it's kind), you kill about 200-400 more of them in the rest of SoC, i'd say you kill at least 100-200 in clear sky and then at least another hundred in call of pripyat, though to be fair the monolith do seem a bit weaker, but more organized&smarter and less braindead in call of pripyat
If I could become a Monolith Troop (Non-Zombie) because of the stuff I get.
I see.
I think Monolith uses the scorcher as a filter. Yes, they need troops, but they have different uses for bodies. Dumb stalkers killed by the scorcher are used as sentries and drones by being low cost zombies. They don’t need to invest resources into them as they have their own. Proper monolith soldiers are made from stringer emissions closer to the CNPP, as to get there, a stalker needs to be smart, resourceful, and well equipped, making better soldiers to invest resources into.
The modes of brainwashing do make sense although I think the half zombified and half monolith fighters are actually older monolith fighters whose minds and body are slowly deteriorating, this would explain why Strider and his group managed to break from control while the rest of the faction did not as they were probably recently recruited and their minds had not deteriorated to the point of no return. Things such as psi fields may be a key in recruiting monolith fighters as it doesn’t instantly fry your brain like an emission. this could explain how the monolith troops stumbled upon a loner who was in the process of “converting” due to him being caught in a psi field
Yes, that's definitely possible, but I think Strider says that they've been in the Monolith for a few years. If that's correct, I'm not sure if they really deteriorate.
Anomalous Dugout ah ok if I that’s the case then I guess not
Subscribed man great videos 👌🏼 can't wait to see what you do when stalker 2 comes out the videos are gonna be class 👍🏼
Thanks, well I can't say anything about this for now, we'll see when the time is right.
GOOD GAME , GOOD CHANNEL !
Thanks !
My question is, how does the Brain Scorcher not turn Monolith fighters into zombified stalkers, when the more powerful mode is turned on? We never see zombified stalkers wearing Monolith uniforms, so clearly that doesn't happen.
Right that's a good question, to which I don't have an answer. Most likely the monolith soldiers have some sort of protection against psi-emissions, but who knows ? Everythink I said was just a theory after all, so maybe the truth is something else.
@@anomalousdugout9557 I dont know if it was ripped from the original game or created by modders but in Anomaly mod for stalker you can find journal of monolith convert, and in that journal its told that first entries were poorly written and incoherent rambling and then later notes were better written and more coherent with final notes made with very precise writing. That makes it possible to assume that everyone always turns into zombies until slowly evolving into monolith/agents, maby those zombie looking monoliths were a 1st stage zombie-monolith conversion.
@@tezwoacz I think this is made by the modders, but it is indeed possible that it happens like that. The "animal" state mentionned in the PDA entry at the end of the video could be that zombie stage, and it would also explain other stuff which we will take a look at in the next "Lore & Theories" video.
The interesting thing is that zombies attack everyone besides other zombies AND monolith, so they do have a connection between them!
If the scorcher can use emissions to remove minds maybe it could also "install" a certain behavior to protect the monolith more effectively. Kinda like the programmed clone soldiers in F.E.A.R
i really like this video but i think you got only one thing wrong
marked one is strelok,and scar was to kill strelok so he may have gotten his pda instead of his own not sure if that is it or not but still,good video keep it up!
Of course Marked One is Strelok, but that does not change anything. Scar was never tasked to kill Strelok, only to stop him. Besides, the design of their PDAs are clearly different, so I'm quite sure they're not the same.
@@anomalousdugout9557 oh,alright thanks for correcting me
I wonder if death trucks are driven by monolith or other agents.
In the beginning cutscene, the driver appears to be wearing a suit of the Duty faction. It's most likely an agent programmed to just drive and follow the road, but who knows...
I remember very recently, I was replaying Call of Pripyat, and decided for once to investigate the Jupiter factory a bit more in depth and found one of those devices in a box like the one in 9:08. It was pretty well hidden inside some crates and in between some debris. The device itself seemed to be active as it was lit but no emissions of any type were being irradiated by it. Shooting it also seemed to break it as the light went off when I shot it. I kinda wonder if it was to serve another purpose but was ultimately scrapped
Yeah I know this one, I guess it's a small secret hinting at the fact that such devices were maybe manufactured in the factory. Maybe we'll learn more about this device in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2, who knows ?
There is a spot before you get to the reactor to get a monolith suit. But you will die of radiation using it. To bad I never found a way to go backwards in the game with goodies. I need this game on android. Still have the pc version from 2007
I seem to remember that Zombies are NOT hostile to Monolith and vice versa. Monolith would seem to be on a "spectrum of zombification", so it makes sense that there would be more and less zombified Monolith. Perhaps that´s also why only some Monolith like Strider broke free. Others were too far gone in terms of brain damage.
Yes, that is correct.
My theory is that most of it is because of machine instability, personally. If you remember in Clear Sky the miracle machine is incredibly unstable.
That's right, maybe it is the case.
I'm the weirdo who feels bad for Monolith soldiers, considering that they have no free will anymore...
It's not weird, it's only human to feel bad for those poor souls.
@@anomalousdugout9557 its gotten to the point where I dont like killing them 😔
@@raphmaster23 In that case you should try stealth, I'm told that with some luck and skill it is possible to almost completely avoid fighting them in the later sections of Shadow of Chernobyl.
@@anomalousdugout9557 oh lordy idk if I'm that skilled lol. I had to start a new game on SOC my first playthrough cause I had nothing for the ending, no armor, no anti rad, no artifacts for radiation lol. But doing the story for Strider in COP woke me up to the plight of the Monolith guys
Making a monolith troop is like cooking a steak
You cant cook them too much or else they will be worse
You cant cook them too shortly or else they will still be zombies
Dang, Dugout's voice was different 3 years ago.
Well... IMHO Monolith was trying to keep Zone on a leash, and not consume the world at the end.
Zone wis not only a threat but also an opportunity for new technologies. Like power sources from artifacts.
Monolith understood it.
I think you mean the C-Consciousness, not the Monolith. Stalkers of the Monolith faction are just manipulated into following orders, they don't know what is going on. It was the scientists of the C-Consciousness who were behind all of this.
@@anomalousdugout9557 kthx
Ah yes. More monolith gaming
Indeed.
It's more likely that Mode 1 "Zombified" persons are the result of a failed Mode 2 "Monolithian" indoctrination. This would indicate that people have different dispositions to withstand psy-emissions or control. It means that Mode 1 individuals were too weak to withstand the full indoctrination that Mode 2 Monolithians undergo. Mode 3 "Zombo-monolithians" are probably a mixed result, meaning that their psy-resistance was not so weak that their "brain was scorched" but that they also were not resilient enough to survive a full indoctrination.
It does make sense that Mode 1 would be a deterrence measure, but also we have to keep the original concept of the C-Consciousness. Their goal was to find a way to control humanity, in a sense, by removing negative emotions from the noosphere. Maybe these efforts that we see in Modes 1-3 are not necessarily deliberately different; maybe these are experiments by the C-Consciousness to fulfill their ultimate goal.
P.S. I am a new S.T.A.L.K.E.R. player so there is a high chance that I am missing key information or plot points.
Nice video :) I'm starting to like this channel
zombies feel less but still,they feel
😂
pray for zombies
Yeah, must be an horrible fate to be turned into one.
The greatest question is - how is there still functional electricity in the Zone and who is paying the bills :D Imagine how many watts the Scorcher eats
Funny thing is I made an entire video on that topic.
I don't think that the Brainscorcher is directly responsible for making Monolith converts. How I see it: Psy storms are a raw form of what the Brainscorcher does. In both cases, Stalkers get their brains fried, and they become zombies. Zombies are not hostile to Monolith. When they are created by a psy storm, they just wander the zone and deteriorate to the zombies we see all over. When the C-consciousness makes the brainscorcher do its thing, Monolith troops instead carry the victims away to be converted, some become Monoliths, other Agents, it depends on the brainwashing done. In all cases the procedure is likely incredibly invasive and results can vary. That's why people are never the same, even if they recover or deconvert. Agents are driven out of the center by death trucks to follow their individual missions, I suppose some of them may even leave the zone entirely to influence the outside world, or procure resources for the Monolith. I have a feeling the C-consciousness is probably rather hands off, they got the ball rolling with the wishgranter, the Monolith and the Agents, the rest is sort of like a running experiment, that's why the Monolith keep doing what they do even after the pods of the C-consciousness are destroyed by Strelok.