Abandoned Wendy's / Tim Horton's Combo - Lewis Center, OH

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  • @CalebNestor
    @CalebNestor 2 роки тому +15

    According to the google street view from September of 2016 Wendy's was there, then as of October of 2017 the Wendy's signage was gone and it looks like Tim Hortons remained open for quite a while in the old building until the newer one was built.

    • @bensmith2951
      @bensmith2951 Рік тому +2

      Yes the October 2018 and October 2019 recordings it still remained Tim Hortons only, Google Street View is proven to be better than Mapillary because this year all of the remaining 16 year old not updated Google Street View got finally updated
      Wendy’s moved up to the North Pointe plaza, Tim Hortons moved next door
      We still have that combo near us

  • @briandonovan3518
    @briandonovan3518 2 роки тому +20

    yes, Wendy's had a partnership with Tim Horton at one time. Now Tim Hortons and Burger King are owned by Restaurant Brands Inc.

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 2 роки тому +3

      Add Popeye's Louisiana Kitchen to that list. All 3 owned by the 3G Capital investment group, led by Brazil's richest man.

    • @The_Amazing_Dip
      @The_Amazing_Dip Місяць тому

      ​@@syxepopAlso Firehouse Subs

  • @bobimbordino3024
    @bobimbordino3024 2 роки тому +10

    I agree, new buildings for businesses don’t have character anymore. Great video

  • @jameswestervelt4263
    @jameswestervelt4263 2 роки тому +8

    It’s nice to see an old abandoned building like this in such great shape, with no graffiti or windows broken out!

    • @Pdasilva0324
      @Pdasilva0324 2 роки тому +2

      It's a very high traffic area that doesn't have a lot of pedestrian access. Not really the type of area prone to a lot of loitering and vandalism.

  • @harrysmith31
    @harrysmith31 2 роки тому +16

    Thanks for another great video wallie. Much respect to you. Keep up with the great work. You are the Best UA-camr on UA-cam in my opinion. Big fan from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @robertsitch1415
    @robertsitch1415 2 роки тому +8

    Tim Hortons originally was mostly just known for coffee and doughnuts but really started diversifying their menu in the late 1990s. One thing they used to have is chilli in a bread bowl.

    • @Pdasilva0324
      @Pdasilva0324 2 роки тому

      I love their coffee and sweets, but not a fan of their sausage. The chili was ok but had mushrooms in it, which I am not a fan of personally and find them to be an odd addition to chili.

  • @joetruman3854
    @joetruman3854 2 роки тому +11

    Lots of these combos were built in Canada as well during Wendy's ownership of TH -- most of them are still operating for the time being.

  • @Landonthethomasfan3
    @Landonthethomasfan3 4 місяці тому +1

    Weird fact but this was my first Wallie video and this would go on to start my retail and abandoned obsession, And have been watching videos old and new thank you Wallie👍

    • @WallieB26
      @WallieB26  4 місяці тому +1

      That's great to hear! Thank you!

  • @lindamikel7913
    @lindamikel7913 2 роки тому +4

    Awesome Abandoned Wendy's / Tim Horton's Combo Video Wallie and Kayla!!!

  • @andypritchard9644
    @andypritchard9644 2 роки тому +1

    Reminds me of the Tim's/Wendy's location that's still open to this day in Monroe, OH. Takes me back to when my grandma would take me and my sister there to eat while staying at a hotel across the street. Nice memories. Thanks for the video Wallie!!

  • @supermama4748
    @supermama4748 2 роки тому +5

    Many independent doughnut shops and small chains were driven out of business by Tim Hortons. Among recent redevelopment agreements in the township is a Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen location to be built on the site of the former Wendy’s/Tim Hortons on Owenfield Drive, next to the new Tim Hortons site near Meijer. The building will be torn down and a new one built on the same site.

    • @robertsitch1415
      @robertsitch1415 2 роки тому +1

      Even a lot of the other doughnut chains struggled in Ontario when Tim Hortons started aggressively expanding.

  • @nicolemacpherson3908
    @nicolemacpherson3908 2 роки тому +5

    I sure miss the classic Wendy's solariums! So much fun to sit in and look out the window as you dined!

  • @jse4wkpl
    @jse4wkpl 2 роки тому +5

    Wendy's headquartered in Dublin, OH & used to own Tim Hortons US at one time. There's a lot of these in Columbus narket

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 2 роки тому +3

      Now you'll see less of those 'duals" as nowadays Tim Hortons (the whole chain at both sides of the border) is part of Restaurant Brands, the same Brazilian-owned (3G Capital) company that also owns Popeye's and Burger King.
      So these "duals" are now up to the franchisee level to a few businesses who owns both TH and Wendy's franchises.

  • @rl1137
    @rl1137 2 роки тому +4

    Big fan from California. Another awesome video

    • @WallieB26
      @WallieB26  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you very much! Much love from Pittsburgh!

  • @crawford586
    @crawford586 2 роки тому +2

    The Wendy's half of this location closed a couple years prior to the Tim Horton's. The Tim Horton's closed in July 2020 obviously when the new store opened next door.

  • @seanmerritt2905
    @seanmerritt2905 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating find! I had no idea that Tim Hortons and Wendy used to be part of the same company. It looks like the Wendy’s closed ca. 2017, and the Tim Hortons in 2020. The Wendy’s drive through, which I found on Street view, was where the new Tim Hortons is.

  • @spengeyroblox7127
    @spengeyroblox7127 2 роки тому +5

    The Wendy's had closed a few years before the Tim Horton's.

  • @MrTodh
    @MrTodh 2 роки тому

    Thanks for another great video wallie.

  • @heathersobsessions5247
    @heathersobsessions5247 2 роки тому +2

    I love the retro Wendy's, reminds me of my childhood.

  • @davidsquires154
    @davidsquires154 2 роки тому +2

    There, is a Tim Hortons/Wendy's Combination Restaurant that is still open, located on 23 Mile Road and Baker Road on the Chesterfield/New Baltimore, Michigan City Limits. The, Tim Hortons/Wendy's Combination Restaurant is still open to this very day.

  • @AaronSmith-kr5yf
    @AaronSmith-kr5yf 2 роки тому +4

    That front facade looks kind of like a bank or credit union. Doesn't look like any Wendy's from the 80's/90's/00's with that front greenhouse thing with the fake plants and maple table/chairs.
    I have family in the Columbus OH area, back in the 90's I remember seeing a few of these Tim Horton's/Wendy's locations, but we never ate at one. I did eat at the FIRST Wendy's location in downtown Columbus. It was huge and had "the original" 1960's Wendy's dining room, probably a recreation of what it looked like. The "original dining room" was small/tight. Maybe 3 two tops, a couple 4 tops. Dark wood paneling, orange/brown trippy carpeting, stained glass light fixtures, all the furniture was dark walnut/oak, had those crazy beads hanging in the doorway where you entered.

  • @saxman112
    @saxman112 2 роки тому +10

    Wow, I honestly had no idea back in the day that Tim Horton’s and Wendy’s had a joint venture to be able to have two restaurants in the same location in various spots. Looks like this did recently close too because of the notice that was put on there that pertains to Covid safety. Such a shame that these buildings are going by the wayside in place of what I fully agree it’s such a boring design with the shoebox that everyone is going for now. And shopping centers signs from yesterday you’re are pretty much gone now in fever of these ones where they have businesses on the bottom and then apartments above them. Heck, I just saw a prime example of this when I took a quick trip back home just over the weekend to where I’m from originally (suburbs near the Milwaukee area) and in a spot where there used to be a motel as well as a bar, both of those have now been torn down and I would not he surprised that in its place more apartments sprang up. Modern architecture has become way too predictable and so boring!

  • @marshabrown8337
    @marshabrown8337 2 роки тому +1

    All the best to you , both. Happy trails.

  • @sixxdoggentertainment4555
    @sixxdoggentertainment4555 2 роки тому +3

    There is a Wendy's/Tim Hortons in Lancaster Ohio. Wendy's owned Tim Hortons until the solit

  • @darrelc6746
    @darrelc6746 2 роки тому +1

    We have them here in Nova Scotia Canada that combo style.They call them Timbits and they sell a ton of them big seller for the company over the years.

  • @carlavision6143
    @carlavision6143 2 роки тому +1

    WallieB26 really enjoyed your awesome abandoned video!

  • @ogbobbye
    @ogbobbye 2 роки тому +1

    the best Wendy's move I ever saw was they closed a Wendy's on one side of a street and built a new Wendy's right across the street from the old one they closed. I guess people going eastbound were hungrier than those going west. they made that move shortly after McD closed their store that was next to the old Wendys and moved less than a 1/4 mile down the street to be right next to a BK.

  • @mariebelladonna437
    @mariebelladonna437 8 місяців тому

    You're SO right about restaurants having more character back in the day. I grew up in mid-80s to mid-90s. I remember McDonald's having the red roofs and "french fry" lights (IYKYK) playgrounds, and MdDonald Land characters everywhere. Wendy's had the fake plants, and the solariums that heated up like ovens in the summertime, because of all the glass, but you still wanted to sit in there and eat, even if it meant you'd be sweating lol. Taco Bell had actual terracotta tile roofs on the fronts of their stores, stucco exteriors and arched windows (a'la Mexico, or what they thought Mexico looked like, anyway, lol), and for a while, their stores even had a real bell, hanging from a little faux cupola at the top of the roof. And of course, they had the chihuahua, albeit that was a bit later. Kayla, that dog inspired MY love for chihuahuas, too-AND I had the stuffed dogs, too. They talked, using phrases from the commercials. I had three out of the four. One said, "Here lizard lizard!" Another said, "¡Viva Gorditas!" And the third, of course, said, "Yo quiero Taco Bell." Lol! Sadly, I think I lost them in storage. But what awesome memories. Oh, and fun fact, I'm pretty sure the Taco Bell Chihuahua was, in real life, female!

  • @cubie526
    @cubie526 2 роки тому +1

    I still have one of these where I live in Canada

  • @robanah
    @robanah 2 роки тому +1

    Ohhh the nostalgia! My first job was working at one of these combo restaurants back in 2003. They'd bring us doughnuts and Timbits all the time! The Wendy's dining room would close at 11, while Timmies was open 24hrs. Even though Timmies and Wendy's no longer share a partnership, most of these combo locations are still running here in Canada. Timmies is more than a coffee/doughnut shop... They have wraps, chicken burgers(not the greatest), potato wedges, chili, soups, and many other items... Maybe the US ones are different????

  • @CanucksMan
    @CanucksMan 2 роки тому +2

    In canada you find lots of Tim Hortons and Wendy in the same building, it isn’t rare up here

  • @brandonb.6099
    @brandonb.6099 2 роки тому +3

    An oldie but goody. Tim Hortons sells breakfast sandwiches and donuts as well as coffee.

  • @ZeeMann_Retail
    @ZeeMann_Retail 2 роки тому +1

    I was cracking up laughing 😂
    Good humor and good video!

  • @news89
    @news89 2 роки тому +8

    Now this looks very neat. Can't even get cup of Tim Hortons Coffee or Junior Bacon Cheeseburger. The shoebox design will age fast. Everything is so minimal and boring now.

  • @kimiastewart6293
    @kimiastewart6293 2 роки тому +2

    Good video Wallie and Kayla I wish they had Tim Hortons out here in the west, I have not ever been to one

  • @cindistokes5471
    @cindistokes5471 2 роки тому +1

    Wendys closed first awhile ago and they moved across the road in front of Wal-Mart. Tim Hortons moved out and built the new building a year ago or so.

  • @runswithrats
    @runswithrats 2 роки тому +1

    They just upgraded the Wendy's/Tim's combo in my area about two years ago. It's always packed, so I don't think it will be shutting down anytime soon. I prefer the older Wendy's decor style, it's so bland looking now.

  • @lorim.9680
    @lorim.9680 2 роки тому

    They have a hamburger/coffee joint together because they will not compete against each other for business. We have a Wendy's/Tim Hortons shared building in Orchard Park, New York. Its just about a five minute drive from the Buffalo Bill's football stadium. Always busy no matter what time of year. They have a separate drive thru for each business. The set up is the exact same inside the building.

  • @ethanleal8317
    @ethanleal8317 Рік тому

    In the city In Canada I live in we still have 2 of these Wendy’s-Tim Hortons combos but they are renovated

  • @morecrazybeastYT
    @morecrazybeastYT 2 роки тому +3

    you get an A+ for being the best and most funny youtuber 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @wiersandlines
    @wiersandlines 2 роки тому

    I used to go here all the time as a kid. I have memories of eating doughnuts in the morning while watching cars drive down 23.
    Memories man.
    My mom got robbed at that UDF gas station behind your car, and we would sled down the hill next to that Meijer there. 😂
    It’s wild to see it like this.

  • @jackiehoward7300
    @jackiehoward7300 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Wallie and Kayla. I enjoyed the talk about the Taco Bell dog. I remember Spuds McKenzie too. #EnjoyYourSprite.

  • @saints093
    @saints093 2 роки тому +3

    I remember when Wendy's had the tables with the different stuff on the tables, all the writing and different things on them, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, this was from the 1980's to early 1990's

    • @davidsquires154
      @davidsquires154 2 роки тому +2

      I, remember when Wendy's had the tables with all the writing on them. I, also remember Clara Peller from the Wendy's Commercial, titled Where's the Beef?I, remember Wendy's in the 1980's and 1990's.

  • @jefferyyoung2580
    @jefferyyoung2580 Рік тому +1

    I am glad be a Canadian

  • @jefferyyoung2580
    @jefferyyoung2580 Рік тому +1

    I love the tim hortons

  • @stangdude360rs
    @stangdude360rs 2 роки тому +1

    Remember when Wendy’s used the yellow boxes ? And cups the good old days

  • @williamboyle8918
    @williamboyle8918 Рік тому

    In my hood, lol. Still another combo just like it around 10 miles away still open @ Bethel / Sawmill rds.

  • @Retail_Adventures_With_Alex
    @Retail_Adventures_With_Alex 2 роки тому +1

    Cool video and Wendy’s owned Tim Hortons for a while back in 1990s we still have one in my area

  • @SpoonerMcGee420
    @SpoonerMcGee420 2 роки тому +1

    There is one of these in Imlay City, MI that's not abandoned yet and it's still open I do believe

  • @jennifergarrett6809
    @jennifergarrett6809 2 роки тому +4

    Wallie is our favorite dork. That's why we love you and you wish you were as cool as the Taco Bell Chihuahua.

    • @WallieB26
      @WallieB26  2 роки тому +2

      LOL!

    • @WallieB26
      @WallieB26  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! Looking forward to coming back down next month! Hoping we'll get to hang out! I'm more than sure we will!

    • @jennifergarrett6809
      @jennifergarrett6809 2 роки тому +1

      @@WallieB26 I'm trying to talk Mom in law into going to Quanah Parkers grave. As well as mom's and sis. Wanting to go through the Wichita preserve again. From one end to the other this time instead of the middle. Do it for her bday. Also I found something for you and Kayla y'all might like. So at least get together for that.

  • @Blade-420
    @Blade-420 Рік тому

    in my town they had KFC and long John silvers that were co-joined, but that was a while back I have not been to that part of town in years.

  • @americancanuck9790
    @americancanuck9790 2 роки тому

    Grand Island, NY and Orchard Park, NY still have one each as of October 2022.

  • @bti-ro2vh
    @bti-ro2vh 2 роки тому

    There is this same exact set up still in operation in Orchard Park NY.

  • @jayreed9977
    @jayreed9977 2 роки тому +2

    love ya wallie.. If you get time you should visit Nate and do another up date on his motorhome

  • @spock592001
    @spock592001 2 роки тому +1

    We have an abandoned Wendy's here in San Antonio, Texas

  • @coriantedavis826
    @coriantedavis826 2 роки тому

    We still have a joint building still open in Flint, Mi

  • @minpinbear
    @minpinbear 2 роки тому +1

    The Tim Hortons here was in with coldstone creamery. Both gone now

  • @angelalinderman9985
    @angelalinderman9985 2 роки тому +2

    Odd Combo😆 I like Tim Hortons coffee though. 👍

  • @jameslowe3557
    @jameslowe3557 2 роки тому +3

    these hash tags tho 😂😂😂

    • @WallieB26
      @WallieB26  2 роки тому +2

      LOL Glad they gave you a good laugh. Haha

  • @darrelc6746
    @darrelc6746 2 роки тому +1

    Love the give me a dog a taco expression haaaaaa.

  • @jet34thehawk
    @jet34thehawk 2 роки тому +2

    Wow 👌 one of my favorite youtuber

  • @craigjensen6853
    @craigjensen6853 2 роки тому

    Awww that's sad, they built so many of these in the mid-2000s and I've never seen one successfully reused. They die a slow death, usually with the Wendy's first and then Tim pulls out. They were nice buildings, huge dining rooms.

  • @joeydersario2470
    @joeydersario2470 2 роки тому +4

    I think they lost the least two years ago Wendy's was in the back. Wendy's restaurant and tim hortons had a special relationship but they quit it there ONLY three left with wendy and Tim hortons

  • @ronaldareyes9899
    @ronaldareyes9899 2 роки тому +3

    Hi 👋 Wallie Again.

  • @rob_at_shop
    @rob_at_shop 2 роки тому

    We still have these open in Canada

  • @elizabethorsillo7187
    @elizabethorsillo7187 2 роки тому

    I’ve seen a Tim Horton’s combination with Coldstone Creamery, but not before with Wendy’s.

  • @krobson17
    @krobson17 2 роки тому

    There is still a few of these open around Columbus. London grove port road in grove city is one. It would be cool to see dunkin come in an turn this into a mega dunkin / Baskin Robbins store

  • @abbieperry4792
    @abbieperry4792 2 роки тому

    There used to be a number of these dual wendys timhortons and other such places along the entirety of the 401. Most were originally constructed during the 60s in various styles like a cabins and ufos and other weirdness. By the time the mid 00s rolled around they were quite dated, tired and rundown. Today none of them still exist as they have all been demolished and replaced with onroutes. I would love to have seen your take on them though as they were quite interesting.

  • @louisemalburg2024
    @louisemalburg2024 2 роки тому +2

    Hey wally love your videos

    • @WallieB26
      @WallieB26  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @matthewreed1078
    @matthewreed1078 2 роки тому

    The building looks like a old Barnes & Noble just a small one lol

  • @Brian-lc4wz
    @Brian-lc4wz 2 роки тому

    They have one of those not too far from me still open. I like it. It looks a lot like that one on the video.

  • @JewyThunder
    @JewyThunder 2 роки тому

    there's still 3 open in Winnipeg Canada

  • @berylwhite2983
    @berylwhite2983 2 роки тому

    Tim Hortons being mostly Canadian was a great business to go along with Wendy's because at the time Wendy's did not have breakfast Tim Hortons was mostly a breakfast and coffee products so it really did well as a combination for the time but since Burger King's bought them the world was changed

  • @milanuzelac1665
    @milanuzelac1665 2 роки тому

    Hey, there’s a mystery Tim’s closed for 3yrs now adjacent to many ethnic takeout, groceries, a laundry and city bus transfer hub.
    Barton and Grays in Stoney Creek Ontario.

  • @Therailwayenthusiast4real
    @Therailwayenthusiast4real 2 роки тому

    I have seen some ones that are still open

  • @hubbaman9885
    @hubbaman9885 2 роки тому +2

    That would be me, a hash tag that says "I hope you enjoy your Sprite". Sure beats a hash tag that says "Enjoy your buthole burgers" which I have seen.

  • @kenhenize8165
    @kenhenize8165 Рік тому

    I sure hope we can keep our Wendy's in Williamsport Pennsylvania too kh

  • @pslyarnbarn
    @pslyarnbarn 2 роки тому +1

    Why wouldn’t Hortons expand into the other side makes no sense to me

  • @philiproy6292
    @philiproy6292 2 роки тому

    Never been to a Tim Horton’s love seeing your videos of places I don’t get to go to. #hopeyouenjoyedyoursprite

  • @meliss9536
    @meliss9536 2 роки тому +1

    I remember the Taco Bell dog was named Gidget! (Actually a female)

  • @RSFred555
    @RSFred555 2 роки тому

    That is cool, gives many options to have one person have Wendy's and another person have Tim Hortons at the same time. Wendy's must have closed first, the Tim Horton's drive thru had a piece of Plexiglas for covid and the Wendy's drive thru did not. Also the Wendy's side doors have emergency exit only labels

  • @WandaWells-j6d
    @WandaWells-j6d 2 місяці тому

    Hi, my name is Wanda.I worked for wendy's for thirty years

  • @Becky20
    @Becky20 2 роки тому

    We still have one in Red Deer Alberta Canada, we call it a TinWin.

  • @kristin_g_203
    @kristin_g_203 2 роки тому +1

    #HopeYpuEnjoyedYpurSprite 🤣🤣👍🏻☺️ Thank you for another video that made me laugh. #YoureAwesome

  • @brentamania89
    @brentamania89 2 роки тому +1

    I really hope you enjoyed your sprite 🙂
    And maybe Wendy liked her like her some jimmy 😂

  • @BrettSchutte
    @BrettSchutte 2 роки тому +2

    Hey willieb26, You Should enable the the give thanks.... So if we want to show more support we can!!!

    • @WallieB26
      @WallieB26  2 роки тому +2

      I've never heard of that feature. Is that something on here?

    • @BrettSchutte
      @BrettSchutte 2 роки тому +1

      @@WallieB26 Yeah there should be a way to turn that on....I'm not sure how unfortunately.... but i do see it on other people's channels so I know you can........Wish I could be more help....

  • @tamburro84
    @tamburro84 2 роки тому

    You're an awesome dude thanks for your videos

  • @janecarolhogue3140
    @janecarolhogue3140 2 роки тому

    So sad all the empty businesses 😢

  • @Carevlr4789
    @Carevlr4789 2 роки тому

    How many buildings have u been too that you actually gained entrance too? Just curious

  • @saraschmidt5612
    @saraschmidt5612 2 роки тому

    Never heard about Wendy's x Tim Horton's!

  • @pf9642
    @pf9642 2 роки тому

    These still exist. There is one in New
    Albany Ohio.
    One side Wendy's and one side Tim Hortons.

  • @MrMrbrianbechtel
    @MrMrbrianbechtel 2 роки тому

    I used to hit up that Tim Hortons in the morning on my way to school...

  • @michaelchynes
    @michaelchynes Рік тому

    It was combo in the 90s. Wendys owned tim hortons . We have one in grand island and orchard park ny

  • @anthonycoach4551
    @anthonycoach4551 2 роки тому +1

    Never tried Tim Hortons don't even know where there located..

    • @dmphax
      @dmphax 2 роки тому +1

      All over Canada and some of the North/North East USA.

  • @everyhandletaken
    @everyhandletaken 2 роки тому +1

    I’m with Kayla, don’t be disrespecting the TB dog 😛

  • @zachwemlinger704
    @zachwemlinger704 2 роки тому +3

    I live in grove city Ohio. We have two Wendy’s/Tim Hortons dual restaurants identical to this one. Both locations and both restaurants are open.

    • @WallieB26
      @WallieB26  2 роки тому +4

      Yes, I read an article about this when I edited the video several days ago. There are still some dual locations open because the leases haven't expired yet. Wendy's and Tim Hortons are no longer co-owned. They're two separate companies again. As a matter of fact Tim Hortons went into a co-ownership with Burger King.

    • @zachwemlinger704
      @zachwemlinger704 2 роки тому +1

      Interesting I did not know that. That’s cool.

  • @slackingpacking
    @slackingpacking 2 роки тому +1

    #ihopeyouenjoyedyourspriteattheabandonedtimhortonswendyscombo let’s get THAT trending 😛.

  • @dmthieme76
    @dmthieme76 2 роки тому +2

    Wendy's is across the street and up the road! Of course it's a shoebox.

    • @WallieB26
      @WallieB26  2 роки тому +2

      Oh yes, we ended up seeing it after filming this video!

  • @vegasmarc7252
    @vegasmarc7252 2 роки тому

    15:25 to 15:27 and 15:54 to 15:57 are gifs/remix moments.

  • @howellsretailexplorationra8774
    @howellsretailexplorationra8774 2 роки тому +1

    I have never seen a Wendy’s and Tim Hortons combo the only combo I have seen was a Taco Bell,Long John Silvers In Martinsville Va In front of rural king the Long Johns moved out In the 80’s and the taco remodeled Into a old style which closed In the early 2000’S

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 2 роки тому +2

      LJS used to be owned by Yum! Brands (same KY-based company as Taco Bell and KFC), so both LJS and A&W* tended to be dualed with either Taco Bell or KFC or trialed with both.
      * both sold by Yum! a few years ago.