Medium fries is literaly one potatos worth of frires. That potato is probably worth $.25cents.and they still overcharge. America is just one big mark up..
right?!!! i only go to McDonalds when i use their app, i get two double cheese burgers. 3.50. sometimes less. a medium fry is over 3 dollars alone?! do we have a potato famine going on or what?
Need one about Burger King next. They had great & unique fries (for fast-food) for like 4 years and then switched it. And don’t even get me *started* on the seafood restaurant down the street from me that used to have the best fries of all time before new ownership. DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED
I mean i agree with him, i'm in my 30s and mcdonalds fries back in the day was The SHIT. Everyone had to get it with whatever they ordered. BRING IT BACK!
The irony is that cholesterol has since been shown to not play as big of a part in heart health as thought at the time. And when companies took out cholesterol and fat from their products they often replaced it with sugar, which has led to the recent rise in obesity among other health problems.
@alexl9334 that's absolutely true. I was driving yesterday for 12 hours and stopped at a mall. Grabbed myself some wetzels pretzels as a treat. Even when I was full, bloated and generally telling myself "I shouldn't keep eating" I still felt "hungry" for another bite after about 15 minutes. Which I'm betting is how long it took for the insulin response to start making me hungry again. And it's easy to see, I'm not a fat guy either lol. Just took too much imodium for the drive and the subway was full 😂
Yeah the wildest thing is everything we eat is building blocks for our body. The cholesterol you give it is sent off to the cells to make the cytoskeleton iirc. Everyone of our cells is a little ball made of a cholesterol scaffold and a protective fat layer.
Trying foreign sweets and sodas has really opened my eyes to how disgustingly over-sugared american sweets and sodas are. I didn't mind when I was a kid with a rampant sweet tooth, but now a lot of that stuff makes me feel ill. You could cut the sugar content of a Hershey bar in half and it would probably taste better.
@PeteyThePenguin and with that diabetes and obesity epidemic comes left wing movements claiming that being fat is good and healthy. With the added bonus, that they also convince fat people that they need and deserve "free" healthcare
Funny thing is, the very vegetable oils Phil campaigned on behalf of were already present in many of the fast foods he was eating pre-heart attack, and they were (and still are) very high in trans fats. Great video, Whang! Definitely didn't expect this topic to be touched on this channel, but you covered it well. I tend to agree that Phil likely meant well and wasn't just in it for the attention/money or anything, but his campaign was definitely irresponsible and did a ton of damage. Sidenote: I recommend the research by Dr. Cate Shanahan for those looking to learn more about trans fats vs. saturated fats.
Phil believed that seed oils were healthier than tallow. He was exceptionally incorrect in that regard, and now we all suffer because one hypochondriac wanted to literally force his wrong opinions based on misinformation down everyones throats.
I remember watching an interview with Julia Child about this very subject. They asked if she liked any sort of fast foods since she was known for traditional French cooking, and she said she had enjoyed McDonald's french fries immensely, until the "health people" had got hold of them and changed the recipe from fat to oil.
Vegetable oil is basically toxic too. It's infuriating how many times in history people who purport to be "experts" will take really simple thinking, that's wrong, and apply it to everyone's lives. "Hurr durr, it's called 'fat' and people are getting fat. Fat must make you fat. Hurr durr, vegetables are good for you. So vegetable oil is good for you."
@@StayMadNobodycaresthat’s what you get for eating at Arby’s, if I’m being honest I’m pretty biased. My mom was a manger there and my sibling and I were the two youngest so we weren’t trusted at home. Neither of us actually liked whenever we had to go with her to work.. Not because it was boring but because we had a possibility of eating Arby’s. I got lucky as I only had to eat it once.
it really is crazy to think of how we were fear mongered the old recipes were dangerous, and that high fructose corn syrup and corn based oils were so much better. In hindsight, this was a strategy to just make everyone switch to cheap ass corn based everything, and look where we are, turns out the corn based stuff is much worse than any of that.
There is literally no chemical difference, sugar is sugar and study after study has completely failed to find any meaningful difference between table sugar and corn syrup and people can't effectively discern any difference in the VAST majority of products either. People claiming it has any effect are feeling nothing but placebo. Now if you want to argue that the fuck huge tax payer funded subsidies paid out to corn farmers that make it cheaper then sugar are bullshit that we shouldn't be funding, then hell yes I'm with you, but arguments that corn syrup as a sweetener is somehow 'evil' or 'worse for you' then sugar can fuck right off,that's bullshit. Corn oil is no different, it's just vegetable oil chemically speaking it's not really any different then other plant based oils. Like I bet you'd hem and haw about how fucking great olive oil is, but that shit is just type of plant. Why do you think oil from corn is magically worse then oil from olives, rapeseed, soy, etc. All of them are literally liquid fat so none of them are really great for you in large amounts, but from a macro nutrition prospective there really isn't all that much difference between them. There is however a growing body of evidence that ANY plant based oil is inherently better then animal derived fats which there is increasing evidence are just inherently inflammatory by the very presence of animal proteins in them and are probably just bad for you. There is a very strong chance that corn oil is in fact, significantly better for you then beef tallow, just not quite for the reasons we suspected in the past.
Shouldn't be any surprise that the severity of the "American obesity epidemic", which talking heads just _love_ to pontificate about, tracks almost perfectly with the point at which Americans started overconsuming these oils, as well as grains, and underconsuming meats. Even South Park joked that turning the food pyramid upside-down would heal America's nutrition issues, which isn't really that far from the truth (assuming you minimize or altogether cut out processed sugar intake).
I was the fry cook at McDonald's in the mid 80s. I used to carry 50 lb boxes marked "100 percent lard" from the basement to put in the fryer. Those fries were amazing! The bigger crime was the pies, which were fried in the same lard.
@@mstrikesback168you’d have to ask op for clarification but lard can be used to refer to rendered animal fat in general, hence beef lard being a technically correct term. it may have even been a mix of pork and beef fat.
I mean he wasn't going to succeed. People don't go to McDonald's for healthy eating. I don't think anyone ever did. Honestly he kinda ruined everyone else's good time and definitely wasn't as healthy as he claimed if cholesterol was his problem. That meant his diet was probably crap.
One of the weirdest parts of this is how lackluster our health education is. Even being 10-16 throughout health class I realized it was all so lacking; legitimately I don’t think you could’ve failed the class. I wonder how many kids still now think shit tons of bread = good Little bit of oil =bad
If you ever want a good assessment of general nutrition ignorance, have a fat person ask 1000 strangers what they need to do to lose weight. They advise obese people not to talk about weightloss with people, not because it makes you look like a braggart, but partly because talking about it satisfied the reward center for accomplishment, and I think more importantly, because EVERYONE will tell you some godawful weightloss advice.
@DevineInnovations think about it though. The idiots that eat like a bunch of livestock at Willy Wonka's factory will take care of the problem on their own. They eventually will succumb to their own gluttony and bad habits. Those who have IQ's not in the double digits will get it together and move on.
In like 1989 or 1990 I took part in a McDonald’s taste test that McDonald’s hired local market research firms to do. We (a group of kids) ate new and old recipe fries and told the researchers what we thought. We all preferred the old ones.
I'm in the UK and we have what we call 'Chip Shops' - essentially old fashioned take outs with burgers and fries like In and Out or Five Guys (better imo) and lots of battered foods like sausages and fish and also things like meat pies. There's one where I live that still does it old school - the chips/fries are cooked in beef dripping/beef tallow. OMFG - it makes all the difference. It's just the combo of fries cooked in beef fat with salt *chef's kiss*
I don't know if we have different recipes in the UK but I've always preferred Burger King fries, even when I was younger. But for sure decent chip shop chips are better than either.
@@mrjoe5292 Yes in the UK McDonald’s fries have different ingredients, ours contain three, potato, salt and vegetable oil (I think sun flower or rape seed.) where as in the US they contain 17 or 18 ingredients!
As someone with a kid who watches way too much Bluey, I gotta admit, it's a good show. Even if you don't have kids, it's fun, calming and genuinely funny. It also handles some serious topics that I wasn't expecting at all from a kid's show. Most kids shows annoy tf out of me but I genuinely enjoy watching Bluey.
I've worked cardiology and I have to say Phil is that guy who sits on the ward post angiogram telling everyone what's wrong with them and how to wrongly cure themselves because he's "an amateur cardiologist." These types of people regularly create new amateurs which is a nightmare.
He's like a recovering alcoholic I used to work with. I enjoy a craft beer or 2 or a good bourbon a couple nights a week. He used to try to lecture me on how I was going to become an alcoholic in jail like he was. Like nah dude I'm sorry you couldn't control your drinking but I can and I'm fine,
"theyre better than burger king fries" Burger king locations are INCREDIBLY inconsistent. The one near me has the most godly food ever. The burgers are literally ALWAYS steaming hot.
@@lerdog well then let me enlighten you, mcdonald's original fries were the greatest culinary gift to humanity. nothing before or since will ever taste as good.
@@jiminboo lol what? That's the most retarded take I've heard and there's a lot in these comments. "Mwahaha now they'll suffer more from slightly mediocre fries than suffering more from a heart attack like I did! 😈"
@@themoviedealers Taubes had some ideas that were based in proper science, 😉 But he completely ignores that thin "healthy" people like Sokolof and Robert Kennedy Jr. and countless others had life threatening heart issues despite exercising regularly and having access to top notch medical care. My grandmother ate salads and walked every day until she was bed-ridden by cancer. Health and weight are, believe it or not, mutually exclusive concepts. There is no such thing as "good/bad calories." Calories are calories. He ignores decades of research that indicate that carbs and the Western food industry's dependence on sugar actually cause most of the deleterious effects he attributes to fats (specifically saturated fats). He also doesn't take into account auto-immune disorders, pharmaceutical side-effects, and biological factors that contribute to any individual's weight or ability to metabolize certain macronutrients. He is a hack who took as rote the pseudoscience garbage that people like Sokolof peddled throughout the 80's.
@@ZaKKsQuaTcH1 "He ignores decades of research that indicate that carbs and the Western food industry's dependence on sugar actually cause most of the deleterious effects he attributes to fats (specifically saturated fats)." He does the exact opposite. He's an anti-carb guy.
Hey Whang, an important detail: though McDonald's claimed that they stopped using beef tallow in 1991, they secretly added it to the fry recipe itself for another decade before being found out by a Hindi whistleblower. (for religious reasons, Hindi can't consume any beef or beef by-products.) McDonald's eventually settled the class action lawsuit over their fries and hash browns being labelled as vegetarian options during this period.
Beef Shortening was STILL used by McDonalds after 1991. But it was done secretly. I should know, I worked there in 1999. We mixed it in trans fat oil to cook the fries.
I remember the beef tallow fries. God they were delicious. My uncle was so upset when they switched the recipe, swore he'd never go to McDonalds again, and to my knowledge he didn't. I'm still willing to say McDonald's fries are still pretty great though, as long as you get them fresh and don't wait too long to eat them
I want those fries so bad now. But for me? Halloween buckets, dark meat nuggets, kid's cookies, and playing Sonic and Knuckles on a kiosk by the ballpit is peak McDonalds
It's really ironic how the guy went on a warpath to make McDonald's "healthier", but vegetable oil is a million times worse for your heart than animal fat. It probably had little to do with his heart attack. His family probably just had a history of cardiac issues.
Yeah it's funny how few are talking about this in the comments. Vegetable and seed oils are the devil, but then again we haven't known that for very long in the grand scheme of things.
Expected a video about someone who came in the deep fryer or something, got an interesting biography of Phil Sokolov and a story of the public's perception of fast food.
Now do a video about why the Reese's Cup tastes so bad now. I feel like I'm the only one who notices and remembers the good, thick chocolate that stayed in place when you bit into it and didn't melt instantly as soon as it came out the wrapper.
My brain said "no, they can't out wax in there." Then realized that's stupid, and thought "yeah but I'd notice wax In there" and realized that too, was stupid lol. And then I thought about that experiment a couple guys ran, where they wanted to see how much sawdust they could add to rice Krispy treats before anyone could tell. And they found they could add something like 25% sawdust before anyone could possibly tell the difference lol
Its crazy how short of a window you have with mcdonald's fries, it makes using a food delivery service pointless unless you're a masochist and enjoying being price gouged for luke warm card board strips
Mmmmmm yeah. I order 5 small McDonald’s fries, with special instructions to put them all in separate bags so they get even colder, then I order 5 Taco Bell hard tacos, same deal with the bags…. And, lastly, I order a salad from a pizza place, make sure it’s the end of the night and gave them deliver it last, after it’s sat with all the hot pizza. When it gets here, I mix it all in a huge bowl, and force feed myself until I climax.
Adapted From “McMenu: Do-It-Yourself McDonald’s Restaurant Recipes” Yields two medium-sized orders of fries. 2 large russet potatoes ¼ cup white sugar 2 tablespoons white corn syrup (Karo) 1-2 cups hot water 6 cups Crisco shortening ¼ cup beef tallow Salt to taste 1. Peel the potatoes and cut them into shoestrings. They should be about ¼ inch x ¼ inch in thickness and about 4 inches to 6 inches long. 2. In a large mixing bowl, combine the sugar, corn syrup, and hot water. Stir to dissolve the sugar. Place the potatoes into the bowl of the sugar-water and refrigerate for 30 minutes. 3. While they’re soaking, pack the shortening into a deep-fryer. If you don’t have a deep-fryer, any sauce pot or dutch oven will suffice as long as you have an appropriate thermometer. Heat on the highest setting until the shortening has liquefied and reads between 375° and 400° F. 4. Drain the potatoes then dump them into the fryer (be careful, it will be ferocious). Nudge them around to make sure they don’t stick to one another. After 1 to 1 ½ minutes, transfer the potatoes to a paper towel-lined plate. Let them cool 8 to 10 minutes in the refrigerator. 5. While they’re cooling, add the beef tallow to the hot shortening and bring temperature back to between 375° and 400° F. 6. Add the potatoes and deep-fry again for 5 to 7 minutes or until golden brown. Again, nudge lightly to keep them from becoming one mega-fry. Remove and place them in a large bowl, sprinkling generously with salt and tossing to mix the salt evenly. Serve hot and enjoy.
got this recipe imma not use the karo or sugar because i hate that stuff in fries even if it makes the recipe different but everything else sounds good, when i get some tallo and crisco ill def be happy
After high school I worked in a five guys for awhile and then moved to a coffee shop. I didn't gain any weight eating a free burger every day on my shift, but started gaining weight and generally feeling like shit after I changed jobs and started eating a shit ton of sugary drinks instead of fatty burgers and fries. Also, there's that one episode of Alone where the guy had an entire elk but was still starving because his body wasn't getting ENOUGH fat. Sugar is absolutely the real culprit here.
I wrote an entire essay on why you actually need a lot of sugar to stay alive but ofcourse UA-cam crashed. Long story short; Dont cease your intake of sugar. You need more sugar than you think. (I dont know your gender so I will use average male) - Your body alone needs at the least 1000g "per day" of sugar *to live*. your brain uses at least ~20% of your daily intake of sugar per day which according to the NIH and FDA is 200g. I am writing this because people are actually forcing themselves to not eat anything sugary at all and even worse its more common with keto diets which are very fatty and protein heavy diets with very low sugar. The stereotype is the middle aged mom with toddlers/preteens who dont allow their children to eat very much candy, ice cream, cake, pie etc because of the stigmatism around sugar itself. A single Gatorade sports drink (chosen for popularity) contains only 36g of sugar so you can already tell how shiny of a red flag this is. People are causing themselves harm. Low blood sugar can cause serious problems if continued for weeks or months. The worst symptoms being memory loss, brain fog, weakness, fainting, death of brain cells/tissue, Alzheimer's and eventually death. Basically if you dont eat 3 meals a day, maybe a dessert after dinner you are harming your body anyways and burning off muscle tissue while storing fat tissue. I know because its been happening to me. Half of the overweight people on the planet are overwright because they dont eat enough.
not really. there's not much of any single compound we eat that in proper moderation and with the lifestyle to support it, can't be healthily absorbed. example: pizza, structurally, is actually not bad for you. it's pretty good, really. you have carbs, proteins and usually some less complex sugars from whatever you slap on top. this guy was probably eating enough mcdo for about two grown men with WAY higher metabolism than he had, on top of (and i think this was actually the culprit) probably just being predisposed to heart attacks genetically. carbs ARE sugars and sugars are carbs, so theoretically if they were the issue here, you'd be basically saying rice or other simple carbohydrates routinely introduced into a diet are a detriment to health. but they're not.
A few months ago, I decided to try on McDonald's after years. I was shocked to find out that the fries tasted worse than the ones I made myself at home. Store-bought brandless potatoes, fried with beef tallow, tasted so much better than McDonald's which I remembered as being legendary-ly tasty. Now I know why.
McDonald's fries were still actually pretty good until about a decade ago or so, when they switched from vegetable oil to canola oil - or whatever they're using now. They can still, occasionally, taste OK if they're cooked perfect and are fresh, but most of the time they're trash.
There is a Petition from 2017 to bring back the old fries, but it only got 81 supporters and is closed now. I feel that a new one would do much better, but Whang would have to promote it on his channel for that to work.
I’ll never forget the day I noticed they changed to vegetable oil. I was depressed knowing I’d never taste those amazing McDonalds fries again. They were the best.
McDonalds was STILL using Shortening all the way up until 2008. But they cut down on the amount it used in 1991, when I worked there in the Summer of 1999, it was 42% Shortening in its Trans Fat Oil.
The funny irony is that switching from tallow to vegetable oil actually made the fries LESS healthy. Because shocking as it is, tallow is actually reasonably good for you. Yes it's loaded with fat and calories but they're the good fats and calories. The ones that actually helps your body's metabolism run properly. Oils derived from vegetables, seeds, and nuts on the other hand may have low calories but they are loaded with trans fats and contain chemicals that can actually caused inflammation of the heart muscles which is actually the real cause of heart disease, not high cholesterol.
That's what people don't actually realise. Beef fat is the same fat our bodies produce so it's natural that our bodies can break them down. Plus think about the carnivorous animals in nature. You don't hear about lions suffering heart attacks from eating a whole wilderbeast. And when you cook red meat you can see how much fat it had as it drips of. Animals eat raw meat, plus all the fat it contains every day. Where as how many seeds does it take to extract all the oil? Way WAY more than what any human or animal could eat in a single meal.
@@ShaLun42 Veggie oils are all trash since they're all essentially seed oils high in omega 6s and raise triglycerides, it takes a lot of chemical processing BS to get oil from seeds. Even so called olive oil and avocado oils are mostly trash because they almost all are frauds, rancid, and/or mixed with seed oils. Most people don't even like real olive oil because the real stuff is bitter.
@@LostSoulchild89 Oh so now we don't suck! Well you're welcome to Northern Ireland, we got the best Dripping here since all our Beef is free ranged and the beef dripping is the best
Large scale heart attacks also started occurring after the large-scale adoption of seed oils earlier in the 20th century They blamed saturated fat, but it wasn't an issue before that.
If you wanna know what your missing just go to smaller hotdog/beef places and ask what they cook with. The neighborng town has a place that uses duck fat and the fries are really good
Nothing worse than a former addict,in phils case fast food,that becomes a crusader bc they think everyone will fall victim to their same addiction and in the process fudge everything up for the rest of us.
McDonald’s has maybe the worst fries of all major fast food companies. They are always thin and soggy and flimsy and either always have way too little or way too much salt
I remember the fries. I also remember when KFC was edible. The problem is that people eat too much of it, which means I cant have decent chips once every few months.
I worked at McDonald's in the '80s. Formula 47 fries dipped in McChicken sauce were the best. Especially when the fries had gone soft. Back in the days of McDlts, deep fried pies and fresh cooked burgers served in styrofoam containers. Before McDonald's became the example of everything wrong with the world.
Yeah but it would be nice to not to die early of a heart attack, no? The obesity rate in America proves that people’s judgment of a healthy diet/foods can’t be trusted. I say this as someone who goes to McDonalds/Taco Bell sometimes. I’m 30ish and I’ve already had issues with cholesterol. Something is very clearly wrong with the food supply still.
@@TitaniumTurbine There are a lot more things that contribute to your health than the occasional meal and McDonald's. I'm 54 and I have great cholesterol, blood pressure and blood sugar. I guess eating those fries in the '80s didn't have as much impact as some people might think they would. The correlation between eating cholesterol and blood cholesterol is not as strong as once thought. Obesity and lack of exercise are major contributors. Of course if somebody ate nothing but fast food and never exercised, they're likely to be very unhealthy. On the other hand, some people do all the right things and still have high cholesterol. I'm not American, but I do agree that there seems to be an obesity problem in the US. I would say that more to do with personal responsibility, than it is to do with the food. Less healthy foods should be eaten only occasionally, not for every meal.
@@andrewdonatelli6953it's hard to eat healthy when a burger is half the price of a pack of strawberries, a lot of us here in the US are stuck in a financial trap that keeps us eating the cheap stuff. Some people just give up and get fat, it's honestly pretty sad
No it’s just the ice cream machines they use need to be sanitized often and they need a special technician to take it apart to do it properly. I heard they found another supplier for them.
@@lucristianx doubt it, its in the contract that they have to use the only one brand and the problem is that operators do not have full access to the machine or the information being displayed. 'often times it just gets too cold and shuts down with no "real" way of understanding that is whats wrong. Its some back door deal between McDonald corporate and the manufacturer and it just dicks over the franchisee's
That's what happens to people when they go on a moral crusade. They get so wrapped up in what they believe will help people, they see any opposing information as an attack on morality itself and anything they do is justified. You can see examples everywhere in society and even on opposing sides of the same issue.
gotta be the curly fries from arbys or jack in the box or the popeyes fries for now. It's a real shame more places don't pull off crunchy curly fries, because they do an amazing job of retaining seasoning and have great texture.
I love Arby's curly fries but they're so different from regular standard fries that I put them in a different category. They belong grouped with wedge fries and steak fries.
Burger King in the Netherlands had curly fries (I moved away, idk if they still do) and they were *so* good. To the point I'd drive an extra 10 minutes to BK rather than go to McD.
@@hannakinn I just categorize anything I can get at standard fry pricing as part of the same category. If there were actually good cheese fries at a fast food restaurant I'd probably consider that too. Sweet potato fries as well just kinda aren't available at fast food restaurants or they'd be a contender for a default win because sweet potato is incredible with just tad of salt and when fried right to be just a bit crunchy.
To answer your question at the beginning of the video, I personally think the best fries are from Checkers/Rally’s. The seasoning blend they use is incredible. I do quite like McDonald’s fries. They’re well-salted and always perfectly crispy due to their shoestring style.
That's why you should never do a knee jerk reaction without a true understanding. What he did was no different than someone switching from kfc to eating popeyes fried chicken 4 days a week. Because their doctor advised to stop eating kfc 4 days a week instead of don't constantly eat fast food or cut down on fried chicken. It would seem obvious kfc just was an example but some will take that type of example literally to mean only that.
I feel like this is the kinda thing that if you got Twitter pissed off about it long enough theyll just switch, they have the money and could milk the hell out of "NEW FRIES"
If they switched back to lard fries, the Biden admin and every blue state in the country would be suing them for billions, claiming that it's making people even more fat and unhealthy and since all those fat unhealthy people are on welfare, that it's affecting the cost of medicare/medicade.
I've never been so conflicted on how to feel about someone. I feel like had good intentions and genuinely wanted people to eat healthier. On the other hand, he chose the wrong alternative and basically forced all restaurant chains to fold. Idk man 😐
It seems like today, people are relearning the phrase "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". And maybe it's just the religious aspect of it that makes people ignore it or not think about its true meaning. But it absolutely applies to this guy. Good intentions or not, his actions have lead to a huge rise in diabetes, heart disease, obesity and more.
For him I feel sad. Especially hearing him sing, there's a real love to what he does even in that. But Ancel Keys, the ''''scientist'''' who started this whole anti-fat/cholesterol bullshit, deserves an eternity in hell. This video scratches the surface of how truly terrible nutritional advice became after the 50's. For anyone interested enough, there's a somewhat funny but serious documentary about this, it's called Fat Head and I can wholeheartedly recommend it. It's a bit old but so is this whole topic and it holds up.
@@StrawberryDonutKing tbf, ancel keys is a mixed bag. The same people who deride his cholesterol research also love his Minnesota starvation expirament. Iirc, he wasn't wrong either. His findings were that polyunsaturated fats are healthier than saturated fat. Nothing I've ever heard in dietetics courses disagrees with this. The problem with it is that the sugar lobby weaponized it. The diet he made was the Mediterranean diet. He wasn't anti fat. He was anti massive quantities of saturated fat.
No conflict for me, anyone who eats fast food every day then turns around and blames the fast food instead of themselves is an idiot. And that's before we take into account the fact that he ruined it for everyone. Make your own decisions, don't try to make them on behalf of others.
It didn't just effect fries, i remember the moment Lays potato chips switched over to canola oil. They were so gross tasting that i haven't bought a bag of them in 25 years.
@heathermillsphantomlimb9314 If you read the literature, you'll find Olestra only caused anal leakage in people who consumed truly prodigious quantities of said chips on a daily basis. And honestly, people with those diets probably would've had dribbly booties with or without Olestra's involvement.
@@spitfiremanlizerd Vegetarian and especially vegan diets are _not_ what we evolved to eat. It would be a good opportunity to shove that down their throats.
McDonald’s destroyed the patent for it in 2004 after they discontinued using Pink Slime. Burger King also completely stopped using Trans Fat Oil and 30% Shortening after its Parent Company Guinness/Heineken sold BK to Tim Hortons in 2005.
I’m also told of a time when the tallow-oil blend was used to fry the apple pies, rather than having them baked as they are today. We used to be a country, Justin.
@MSinistrari Still as hot as the tiles of the Space Shuttle during re-entry even after you finished your whole meal, but GAHH they were a tiny little bit of heaven 😌
So much nostalgia in just one sentence. This hit me quite hard. I was a teen in the 80s and both parents smoked until they gave up in the mid 90s. I recently lost the two of them within a year of each other and I would do anything to go back to those years.
Corn and cottonseed oil/pretty much all vegetable oils are extremely unhealthy and they've made their way into most of the foods we eat. Good quality butter and animal fats are way better for you than vegetable oils that have been oxidized to the point of being toxic to consume. But vegetable oils are dirt cheap to produce so they'll continue to be used by the food industry whenever possible.
I disagree. Both fats AND sugars are bad (especially out of moderation) and they don’t have to be attacked together/inclusively. Back then if he started attacking both of these common ingredients… then he really would have been labeled as a quack and his messaging wouldn’t have been nearly effective. Nowadays, the general public has more information than ever, but prior to the late 90s/early 2000s, it was harder to obtain health data/experiences. He’s NOT partially responsible for a sugar pandemic just because he chose to attack a different unhealthy boogeyman. That’s not how advocacy works, rather that is an all or nothing mentality that would get us nowhere.
@@TitaniumTurbine he pushed hard enough to get the recipes changed. The intent was good but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The video states trans fats use increased at a result of the low fat movement. I would guess addition use of sugar and artificial sweaters followed as these manufacturers tried to keep their product tasting good. I’m not an expert but doesn’t modern nutrition science say a diet high in protein and naturally occurring fats but low in carbs and sugars is the key to losing and maintaining a healthy weight.
Ultraprocessed foods are the culprit. Squabbling over macros doesn't help anyone. Sugar won't make you fat all that quickly, but it will rot your teeth, and cause an insulin spike and subsequent crash, which has been linked to all kinds of health problems, including cancer. Fat will just stick to your ass, clog your arteries, and ironically enough, give you diabetes. And what do modern ultraprocessed foods have a lot of? Fat AND sugar. (Also excessive salt, but that's another can of worms.) Just eat your damned veggies. Don't drench them in butter. Don't glaze them with sugar. Brussel sprouts are just fine without some maple bacon bullshit.
I don't understand how a lot American people still believe that starting their day with cereal, peanut butter sandwiches, flavoured yogurts, box orange juice and everything like that is healthy. And stuff like lunchables and pizza pockets being considered as common school lunch for kids is a crime.
I wasn't even in elementary school when the change occurred, and I still remember those fries. They're up there with Pizza Hut bread sticks as best treats of all time.
This is so true, nothing compares to the old McDonald’s fries, & not just them, it’s the changes throughout most fast food restaurants nowadays. This was such an interesting dive to watch! You should continue a series on other beloved fast food classics & the changes! 💯
Not just fast food, shit like cereal recipes changed for the worse. I don't eat the stuff much anymore, but I'll try some Count Chocula and Boo Berry in October and shit just doesn't taste like it used to, it has a weird bland chemical taste.
There's a video on UA-cam of the queen herself Julia Child even lamenting the change to the McDonald's French fries in an interview. She was very much the polar opposite to Sokolof, I think. Because she loved food and didn't believe skimping on butter and fats. One quote: "You need some fat in your diet, or your body can't process your vitamins." That being said, being healthy is important but everyone's bodies process things differently sometimes. It's not always a one size fits all situation.
Wendy's held the title of Best Fries for years, but then they changed something and now they're all wrong from how they were a decade ago. Five Guys has the best fries overall, but they are too expensive to be "fast food." Popeyes is a solid choice for #1. Love the seasoning.
@@hope-cat4894that goes for Popeyes and KFC imo. Though KFC is a bit dry, the mac and cheese are always a delight. I just really wish Popeyes was better near me- I once went their with my grandma and they fucked up our order so hard. We would’ve returned it if it wasn’t for it being pretty far away.
What changed about Wendy's fries was their Spicy Nuggets. They cook them in the same oil, so everything that comes after an order of Spicy Nugs has a hint of Spicy Nug that taints the overall flavor.
Yep. Nothing wrong with tallow, lard, or butter in moderation. Cottonseed and the rest of the seed oils were completely untested for long term effects and have been put in every single product since then because of the supposed lower cholesterol, instead of convincing the public to eat better
the world would be a better place if they kept on making them like they used to edit: jesus please my notifications can only take so much..... no more replies........ *AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*
I feel like that goes for a lot of things, though I feel like that’s less and less true as time goes on. Somethings definitely should’ve stayed like they were but some new things are actually quite amazing and wouldn’t be possible if it weren’t for manufacturing improving upon it.
I used to live near a fish and chip place that fried their chips in beef dripping. Fantastic stuff. I'd certainly love to try out that old McDonald's recipe someday.
He did that though, they mentioned in the video that he changed his entire diet. I think he took it as a point that what he, and so many other people were eating was not healthy. I speak from his perspective, I make no claims on cholesterol and whatnot as I’m not a doctor
@@AwfullyDeer Well yeah he dialed it back but he missed the key part of "too much of anything is bad," and should have been advocating for people not overconsuming it on the regular instead of trying to make it okay to shovel it into your mouth 24/7 (he still failed at that)
@@DracoSafarius I’m not agreeing to anything he did, I think he jumped to conclusions on the causes to unhealthiness too. I commented what I did because he was accused of something he didn’t do
I have a background in nutrition, and still stay up to date with new studies and information, unlike 99.9% of graduates. I used to be a nutritional adviser for those in bodybuilding and athletics, which means I had to really know my stuff as clients were sometimes competing against some of the most physically optimized athletes around. I'm sure Phil meant well, but he honestly did an outrageous amount of damage in terms of how much disinformation he spread about nutrition, how he led people to eat worse diets, and how the pressure of his pseudoscientific diets made food (like McDonalds fries) become worse tasting as much as they became worse for you. This video does get it right, the sugar industry bought out most of the academic research being done at the time to divert attention from sugar since heart disease, obesity, diabetes, cancer, auto-immune and other diseases were on the rise. Early evidence was showing it was mainly stemming from simple sugars, and they needed to cover it up. Despite what you may believe, this problem hasn't gotten better, if anything it's worse. Most academic studies are frauds for-profit. We know now that sugars were the real underlying cause of all those problems now, because over time we were able to get unbiased research outside corporate or corrupt gov't funding, with replicated results. Still, the pseudoscience is mainstream, and to this day doctors have no idea about nutrition. Most doctors and scientists learn in university, and when they graduate, they stop reading. Most do this. If you doctor graduated in the early 90s, he will still tell you to avoid saturated fats. Fats (besides trans-fats) and cholesterol are bad for you. It is only bad when you have unbalanced amounts, like a lot of saturated fats without mono and polyunsaturated fats IN COMBINATION with too much sugars/simple carbs. Protein and fats are the main components of animal meat, something our bodies are designed for. Carbs are the unnatural addition. Humans naturally got their carbs from just fruits and vegetables, but since the introduction of simple carbs and sugars our bodies aren't made to handle it. There are only a few things in diets that are bad no matter what: Trans-fats, sugars, and seed oils are the most common poisons that have zero upside. Many people don't realize this, and will substitute margerine instead of butter, not knowing that butter is healthy in small amounts while margerine is toxic. Ever since the addition of simple sugars, obesity, diabetes, heart disease and other health issues have become more common. However, since the addition of seed oils, which are in nearly everything now, cancer and immune system issues have exploded to a rate we have never seen in history. It's sad and ironic that McDonalds went from an okay recipe to an EXTREMELY unhealthy, borderline poisonous, recipe all because of academic fraud leading to disinformation. Nutritional disinformation still exists today. You gotta be careful, because many doctors have outdated/incorrect information. You should be limiting your exposure to seed oils, avoid trans fats, eat plenty of polyunsaturated / omega-3 fats, and avoid sugars. Simple carbs without any nutritional value like white breads, pasta and rice are converted to sugars pretty quickly in the body, and although not AS bad as drinking a sugary drink, should be limited. If you do have sugars, they should be limited and not mixed with fats, but protein instead. It's hard to do, because our idea of nutrition has been the victim of propaganda, pseudoscience and ignorant activists that do more harm, so we don't have many options for healthy food. Even the "healthy" grocery stores or restaurants are usually garbage and just semi-organic versions of the same dumb diets. This is why odd diets like the "only eating red meat" diet has benefitted people, because even though it's not optimal, it weeds out so much poisons we normally eat and are told are "healthy".
sounds like a reverse pyschology psyop, for all i know, its just common sense to lower carbs and fatty foods. It just the law to put a label on the ammount of nutrition on food labels, its better to know than know nothing, thats the point
@@AlamoOriginalThen why has obesity in the US skyrocketed since this "common sense" mode been adopted? In my experience, "common sense" is usually neither.
@@AlamoOriginal its not the governments place to do anything much less force companies to label things, more so when how they are labeling them is factually incorrect. Government caused obesity, its not going to fix it by adding useless numbers to labels.
@@themoviedealers Because people don't give a shit. A long life is a luxury for the rich as they are the only ones able to afford a higher quality of living in their old age I'm fine if I live until 60 after that life's gonna suck anyways.
The thing is you can see an almost direct correlation between the use of seed oils and rise of obesity/heart disease. So this guy in all reality probably caused way more harm and almost no good
“It is perfectly obvious that the whole world is going to hell. The only possible chance that it might not is that we do not attempt to prevent it from doing so” - J. Robert Oppenheimer
@@luke_fabis The nutrients in the calories matter. If you limit your calories to 500 a day but it’s all alcohol, it will still have a negative effect on the body.
@@lucristianxYeah, because you’d be malnourished, in reality it is mostly raw amount of calories burned and eaten. Though, it is good to stick to foods like vegetables, fruits, and nuts which contain unsaturated fats and complex sugars.
@@lucristianxwhy would limiting your diet to 500 calories a day be beneficial regardless? You'd be starving yourself. Calories aren't bad. Calories are a necessity.
Amazing might be strong but they are good, except the one near me is very inconsistent,like yheres almost no training or quality control. One week, they're fine, then a week or 2 later. I'll go back, and they're soggy and severely lacking in taste if not outright bad tasting, then the next time they might be fine or even great.
Beef tallow makes fries delicious. I hear Malcolm Gladwell talk about this. He was given a large amount of tallow at the end of the episode and he enjoyed fries like we used to have.
McDonald's has been going downhill. I used to love them so much, but the quality control is out of wack at all the chains now. They don't train the workers like they used to. 😔
I know what you mean. I can understand the quality and taste being different between stores, but when you go the the same every week or 2, the food shouldn't look and taste almost completely different, like one week I'll go and thecfries are fine than a week or were I go and they're soggy and almost tasteless.
I remember people told me for the longest time that I needed to try five guys so I finally did. I was so disappointed and underwhelmed because everyone made it seem so great. I was like, ok I get a LOT of food but if not particularly good.
The biggest suspicion I have is that all this was done because of one man’s garbage diet. Blows my mind that the guy has a heart attack, admits to an addiction to burgers and fries, and never once thought of eating something else like pasta or chicken or anything else not red meat.
@JesusChristMomGetOut Even though it seems a selfish reason, this is how most research gets funded. Christopher Reeves didn't fund breast cancer research after he was paralyzed...he funded paralysis research.
The McDonalds apple pie was also ruined. It used to be a delicious, deep fried pocket of yummy goodness. But they changed it sometimes around 1992 to be a generic, baked pocket.
My favorite fries are the ones from Freddy's Frozen Custard and Steakburgers. It's more of a southern/midwestern thing, but it's great. They cut their fries super thin, so you can just eat them by the handful, and they're very flavorful.
As an 80s Kid , I can testify ! McDonald's Fries where so damn Good! And a lot of other fast food was so much better before they removed Trans Fats .... Seriously ! Why do we need Healthier Fried Chicken/Burgers !?
Are there any modern fries that taste like the old mcdonalds fries to you? I'd like to know what they taste like as someone who grew up with the new ones
Loved Rally's fries as a kid! Didn't have them very often- our household needed to put the money on the main food item, you know? But the first time I tried Popeyes fries it really reminded me of them.
Karen made his issues everyone else's problem. He's exactly the kind of person you'd see running an HOA. A self-righteous busy body who feels entitles to control everyone else.
Coincidentally, I was discussing this week with my mother of 70+ about how bad McDonald Fries taste today and how I remember as a kid, it tasted like nothing else. Going to McDonalds in the 80's was magical for kid. You could have a date at McDonalds and your date would be happy, unlike today where it would be your last date :D
It really was magical as an 80s kid, I'll never forget going to McDonald's in the 80s. All their food was better not just the fries plus the playgrounds which they no longer have and the characters that disappeared. Ahhhh I miss the 80s.
Still less bad than animal fat. Best would be if you went without rendered or refined fats and oils altogether and just stuck to whole foods. Flax is always going to be better for you than fries.
The thing that ruins McDonald's fries is the fact that medium fries cost more than a damn burger.
Medium fries is literaly one potatos worth of frires. That potato is probably worth $.25cents.and they still overcharge. America is just one big mark up..
@@martinroa1480yes yes America bad
Who still actually eats at McDonalds? I mean, gross dude.
I do buy the fries than the burger
right?!!! i only go to McDonalds when i use their app, i get two double cheese burgers. 3.50. sometimes less. a medium fry is over 3 dollars alone?! do we have a potato famine going on or what?
I love the fact that Whang dedicated an entire video to the man who killed his favorite childhood fries
Our favorite
We stan
Need one about Burger King next. They had great & unique fries (for fast-food) for like 4 years and then switched it.
And don’t even get me *started* on the seafood restaurant down the street from me that used to have the best fries of all time before new ownership. DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED
@@CantTellYou make a video about it bro, I’d watch it
I mean i agree with him, i'm in my 30s and mcdonalds fries back in the day was The SHIT. Everyone had to get it with whatever they ordered.
BRING IT BACK!
The irony is that cholesterol has since been shown to not play as big of a part in heart health as thought at the time.
And when companies took out cholesterol and fat from their products they often replaced it with sugar, which has led to the recent rise in obesity among other health problems.
Fat and protein satiate longer.
@alexl9334 that's absolutely true.
I was driving yesterday for 12 hours and stopped at a mall. Grabbed myself some wetzels pretzels as a treat.
Even when I was full, bloated and generally telling myself "I shouldn't keep eating" I still felt "hungry" for another bite after about 15 minutes. Which I'm betting is how long it took for the insulin response to start making me hungry again.
And it's easy to see, I'm not a fat guy either lol. Just took too much imodium for the drive and the subway was full 😂
Yeah the wildest thing is everything we eat is building blocks for our body. The cholesterol you give it is sent off to the cells to make the cytoskeleton iirc.
Everyone of our cells is a little ball made of a cholesterol scaffold and a protective fat layer.
Trying foreign sweets and sodas has really opened my eyes to how disgustingly over-sugared american sweets and sodas are. I didn't mind when I was a kid with a rampant sweet tooth, but now a lot of that stuff makes me feel ill. You could cut the sugar content of a Hershey bar in half and it would probably taste better.
@PeteyThePenguin and with that diabetes and obesity epidemic comes left wing movements claiming that being fat is good and healthy. With the added bonus, that they also convince fat people that they need and deserve "free" healthcare
Funny thing is, the very vegetable oils Phil campaigned on behalf of were already present in many of the fast foods he was eating pre-heart attack, and they were (and still are) very high in trans fats.
Great video, Whang! Definitely didn't expect this topic to be touched on this channel, but you covered it well. I tend to agree that Phil likely meant well and wasn't just in it for the attention/money or anything, but his campaign was definitely irresponsible and did a ton of damage.
Sidenote: I recommend the research by Dr. Cate Shanahan for those looking to learn more about trans fats vs. saturated fats.
Phil believed that seed oils were healthier than tallow. He was exceptionally incorrect in that regard, and now we all suffer because one hypochondriac wanted to literally force his wrong opinions based on misinformation down everyones throats.
@@smh9902 Seed oils also destroy the thyroid gland, which can cause weight gain, something scientists knew in the late 1940s.
@@smh9902exactly the seed oils are poison. Animal fat is needed for our brains to function properly.
trans fats the reason for the lgbtq movement
@@alexvanpelt494 What about trans skinnies?
I remember watching an interview with Julia Child about this very subject. They asked if she liked any sort of fast foods since she was known for traditional French cooking, and she said she had enjoyed McDonald's french fries immensely, until the "health people" had got hold of them and changed the recipe from fat to oil.
Thats interesting !
Agreed. We need less health people these days
Vegetable oil is basically toxic too. It's infuriating how many times in history people who purport to be "experts" will take really simple thinking, that's wrong, and apply it to everyone's lives.
"Hurr durr, it's called 'fat' and people are getting fat. Fat must make you fat. Hurr durr, vegetables are good for you. So vegetable oil is good for you."
Yeah health people suck! Imagine caring about people getting addicted to unhealthy lifestyles and food that's generally bad for you. Scum bags, booooo
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The biggest thing that ruins McDonald’s fries is more than 10 minutes passing. Time really does make fools of us all 😔
Bro is Socrates
nothing worse than Arby's mozerella sticks, the cheese solidifies and gets cold before you even make it home.
10 minutes is pretty generous
@@StayMadNobodycaresthat’s what you get for eating at Arby’s, if I’m being honest I’m pretty biased.
My mom was a manger there and my sibling and I were the two youngest so we weren’t trusted at home. Neither of us actually liked whenever we had to go with her to work.. Not because it was boring but because we had a possibility of eating Arby’s. I got lucky as I only had to eat it once.
You can re-warm them in the oven at a low temp and they taste just as good!
it really is crazy to think of how we were fear mongered the old recipes were dangerous, and that high fructose corn syrup and corn based oils were so much better. In hindsight, this was a strategy to just make everyone switch to cheap ass corn based everything, and look where we are, turns out the corn based stuff is much worse than any of that.
There is literally no chemical difference, sugar is sugar and study after study has completely failed to find any meaningful difference between table sugar and corn syrup and people can't effectively discern any difference in the VAST majority of products either. People claiming it has any effect are feeling nothing but placebo. Now if you want to argue that the fuck huge tax payer funded subsidies paid out to corn farmers that make it cheaper then sugar are bullshit that we shouldn't be funding, then hell yes I'm with you, but arguments that corn syrup as a sweetener is somehow 'evil' or 'worse for you' then sugar can fuck right off,that's bullshit.
Corn oil is no different, it's just vegetable oil chemically speaking it's not really any different then other plant based oils. Like I bet you'd hem and haw about how fucking great olive oil is, but that shit is just type of plant. Why do you think oil from corn is magically worse then oil from olives, rapeseed, soy, etc. All of them are literally liquid fat so none of them are really great for you in large amounts, but from a macro nutrition prospective there really isn't all that much difference between them.
There is however a growing body of evidence that ANY plant based oil is inherently better then animal derived fats which there is increasing evidence are just inherently inflammatory by the very presence of animal proteins in them and are probably just bad for you. There is a very strong chance that corn oil is in fact, significantly better for you then beef tallow, just not quite for the reasons we suspected in the past.
Now people start to realize why small hat people were kicked out of 109 countries.
Shouldn't be any surprise that the severity of the "American obesity epidemic", which talking heads just _love_ to pontificate about, tracks almost perfectly with the point at which Americans started overconsuming these oils, as well as grains, and underconsuming meats. Even South Park joked that turning the food pyramid upside-down would heal America's nutrition issues, which isn't really that far from the truth (assuming you minimize or altogether cut out processed sugar intake).
@@mister_stangNo mention of ww2 in this video or Wikipedia.....
@@mister_stangimagine being this pressed about McDonald's fries
I was the fry cook at McDonald's in the mid 80s. I used to carry 50 lb boxes marked "100 percent lard" from the basement to put in the fryer. Those fries were amazing! The bigger crime was the pies, which were fried in the same lard.
lard? interesting. I thought they used beef fat or beef tallow
@@mstrikesback168you’d have to ask op for clarification but lard can be used to refer to rendered animal fat in general, hence beef lard being a technically correct term. it may have even been a mix of pork and beef fat.
@@mstrikesback168 That's what lard is.
I worked at Mickey Ds in 1999. By then it was Trans Fat Oil, the shortening was STILL inside the Trans Fat Oil, but it was kept Secret until 2008.
@@mstrikesback168Shortening. It’s Called Shortening, Ala Crisco.
I'm honestly split on whether Phil was a good person for at least trying to make McDonalds healthier or if he should have just... not ate there daily
I'd rather have slightly less satisfying fries than have the fast food label be an excuse to slowly poison people imo.
Others will without being informed or because they have no other choice. The fries are still good and won't instantly clog your arteries.
I mean he wasn't going to succeed. People don't go to McDonald's for healthy eating. I don't think anyone ever did. Honestly he kinda ruined everyone else's good time and definitely wasn't as healthy as he claimed if cholesterol was his problem. That meant his diet was probably crap.
@@dlf7789 or you could just, y'know not eat the food, instead of ruining it for other people?
He should have just stfu and eaten a salad
One of the weirdest parts of this is how lackluster our health education is. Even being 10-16 throughout health class I realized it was all so lacking; legitimately I don’t think you could’ve failed the class. I wonder how many kids still now think shit tons of bread = good Little bit of oil =bad
If you ever want a good assessment of general nutrition ignorance, have a fat person ask 1000 strangers what they need to do to lose weight.
They advise obese people not to talk about weightloss with people, not because it makes you look like a braggart, but partly because talking about it satisfied the reward center for accomplishment, and I think more importantly, because EVERYONE will tell you some godawful weightloss advice.
Now you get called a bigot if you tell people they should eat healthy food. Things are only going to get worse.
@DevineInnovations think about it though. The idiots that eat like a bunch of livestock at Willy Wonka's factory will take care of the problem on their own. They eventually will succumb to their own gluttony and bad habits. Those who have IQ's not in the double digits will get it together and move on.
@@DevineInnovations the point is about 3 miles over your head
@@fluffbuck3t What makes you say that?
You’re telling me, I’ve been living a fry lie and never had the best McDonald’s fries for all my life?
If you're under 25, you've reallt never had the best ANYTHING. It's so sad man :/ Shit sucks now.
I miss early 90s taco bell and Wendy's
Your generation has been cheated of all the good things in life and you'll never even know what you're missing
Fun fact, Wendys used to let you order chili (the topping) on your burgers. Then dave thomas died.
I read this in monas voice lel
In like 1989 or 1990 I took part in a McDonald’s taste test that McDonald’s hired local market research firms to do. We (a group of kids) ate new and old recipe fries and told the researchers what we thought. We all preferred the old ones.
I'm in the UK and we have what we call 'Chip Shops' - essentially old fashioned take outs with burgers and fries like In and Out or Five Guys (better imo) and lots of battered foods like sausages and fish and also things like meat pies. There's one where I live that still does it old school - the chips/fries are cooked in beef dripping/beef tallow. OMFG - it makes all the difference. It's just the combo of fries cooked in beef fat with salt *chef's kiss*
I don't know if we have different recipes in the UK but I've always preferred Burger King fries, even when I was younger.
But for sure decent chip shop chips are better than either.
Every chip in my region uses the cheaper beef fat even though sun flower oil tastes far superior and is healthier but also more expensive.
@@mrjoe5292 Yes in the UK McDonald’s fries have different ingredients, ours contain three, potato, salt and vegetable oil (I think sun flower or rape seed.) where as in the US they contain 17 or 18 ingredients!
Does your chippy do battered saveloy?
*Whang:* Plays heavy metal, watches wrestling, and makes the grossest story videos I’ve known.
*Also Whang:* Seemingly watches Bluey.
Gotta balance out the internet horrors somehow
he's just like me fr!
Might be his editor that watches tbh
I see no problem.
Bandit is top G.
As someone with a kid who watches way too much Bluey, I gotta admit, it's a good show. Even if you don't have kids, it's fun, calming and genuinely funny. It also handles some serious topics that I wasn't expecting at all from a kid's show. Most kids shows annoy tf out of me but I genuinely enjoy watching Bluey.
I've worked cardiology and I have to say Phil is that guy who sits on the ward post angiogram telling everyone what's wrong with them and how to wrongly cure themselves because he's "an amateur cardiologist." These types of people regularly create new amateurs which is a nightmare.
He's like a recovering alcoholic I used to work with. I enjoy a craft beer or 2 or a good bourbon a couple nights a week. He used to try to lecture me on how I was going to become an alcoholic in jail like he was. Like nah dude I'm sorry you couldn't control your drinking but I can and I'm fine,
@@loganstroganoff1284 I swore when I quit smoking I would never become a self-righteous ex-smoker.
@@Fr.O.G. yet here you are, patting yourself on the back, implying you're superior compared to those other people.
@@rodmunch69because he is superior (in a way). Shoving your nose in someone else’s business is never a good trait.
@@rodmunch69 He's not lecturing people on the ills of what smoking can do.
Phil's story is the ultimate example of "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
No, I think he was propped up by the seed oil industry
Seed oils are poison
You really just gonna steal a quote from the video your commenting on
Truly the most sick and twisted individual Justin has covered so far
Wait until he features Morgan Spurlock....
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"theyre better than burger king fries" Burger king locations are INCREDIBLY inconsistent. The one near me has the most godly food ever. The burgers are literally ALWAYS steaming hot.
Here is my daily hot take:
Burger King onion rings >>>>>>> McDonald's fries
Yup. The burger king by me sucks. But the one by my grandparent's house (in another state) is awesome.
my local burger king itself is incredibly inconsistent. Some days their fries are soggy and sad, some days they're on par with old mcdonalds fries
Burger King would rule the fast food market if their quality control was as good as McDonald’s
Piles of dog shit are frequently steaming hot too
I feel so bad for those that never got to try the original McDonald's fries. The difference is enormous.
Send them to the county fair.
Just make your own fries.
Don't feel, we don't know what we are missing, so it's all good
I'm shaking with rage.
@@lerdog well then let me enlighten you, mcdonald's original fries were the greatest culinary gift to humanity. nothing before or since will ever taste as good.
Dude wasn't able to eat his favorite foods and made it a mission to stop everyone else from doing the same.
Tbh i'd do the same
Hes the batman of health
@@4ft1inAlpha More like 2 face
A good guy
Dude be like: oh no, my unhealthy junk food needs to be slightly healthier so I can keep gorging myself on them
This guy was told to go on a diet and made it everyone else's problem.
Lmaoooooooo 😂 “Darn it… I’ll suffer… but so will everyone! Bwaahahahaha!”
@@jiminboo lol what? That's the most retarded take I've heard and there's a lot in these comments. "Mwahaha now they'll suffer more from slightly mediocre fries than suffering more from a heart attack like I did! 😈"
Still worth it I guess for him to stumble ass backwards in to something good, by making it the law to print nutritional facts.
Real Karen energy
I mean he did do some good but yea dude needs to listen to his doctor and dont make it everyone’s problem for his bad choice.
I'm only 90 seconds in and heard Phil Sokolof's name. I turned to my wife and said, "Finally somebody's taking this bastard down."
Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes.
@@themoviedealers Taubes had some ideas that were based in proper science, 😉 But he completely ignores that thin "healthy" people like Sokolof and Robert Kennedy Jr. and countless others had life threatening heart issues despite exercising regularly and having access to top notch medical care. My grandmother ate salads and walked every day until she was bed-ridden by cancer. Health and weight are, believe it or not, mutually exclusive concepts. There is no such thing as "good/bad calories." Calories are calories. He ignores decades of research that indicate that carbs and the Western food industry's dependence on sugar actually cause most of the deleterious effects he attributes to fats (specifically saturated fats). He also doesn't take into account auto-immune disorders, pharmaceutical side-effects, and biological factors that contribute to any individual's weight or ability to metabolize certain macronutrients. He is a hack who took as rote the pseudoscience garbage that people like Sokolof peddled throughout the 80's.
@@ZaKKsQuaTcH1 "He ignores decades of research that indicate that carbs and the Western food industry's dependence on sugar actually cause most of the deleterious effects he attributes to fats (specifically saturated fats)."
He does the exact opposite. He's an anti-carb guy.
as soon as vegetable oil was substituted to, that's where it went wrong everywhere
They taste & feel stale fresh from the fryer.
And obesity is worse than ever
So basically we have to thank that guy for having disgusting cardboard fries just because he couldn't control his own McDonald's consumption patterns.
Isn't that how it always is, sadly? Some people just have think they're saving the world.
And because a quack doctor misled him about saturated fats we live in a world where essentially toxic canola and palm oil is in everything.
@@ebolachanislove6072yeah, the irony is painful.
Tell that to drug users
Its just fries, not worth your health
Hey Whang, an important detail: though McDonald's claimed that they stopped using beef tallow in 1991, they secretly added it to the fry recipe itself for another decade before being found out by a Hindi whistleblower. (for religious reasons, Hindi can't consume any beef or beef by-products.) McDonald's eventually settled the class action lawsuit over their fries and hash browns being labelled as vegetarian options during this period.
Another reason to hate hindis. Selfishly ruining a good thing for everyone because of their made up rules
@Svenskanorden1 20% of India isn't Hindu. Majority of that 20% is Islam and Christian, which can eat beef. But I do appreciate you asking :)
Why would it not be a Hindi thing, but a nationality thing?
*Hindu* , not "Hindi."
Hindi is a language, not a religion.
Beef Shortening was STILL used by McDonalds after 1991. But it was done secretly. I should know, I worked there in 1999. We mixed it in trans fat oil to cook the fries.
The embodiment of "well if I can't have fun, no one else can!"
I remember the beef tallow fries. God they were delicious. My uncle was so upset when they switched the recipe, swore he'd never go to McDonalds again, and to my knowledge he didn't. I'm still willing to say McDonald's fries are still pretty great though, as long as you get them fresh and don't wait too long to eat them
What are you, like, 40 with a Chinese cartoon profile picture? Okay bud lol
@@DaemonJerky Thanks man. I work hard on my image.
@DaemonJerky are you actually a giant D?
@@DaemonJerky Weebery dates back far, they had anime and manga back in the 60s and 70s too, you know.
@@DaemonJerky 40 is the age of higher end millennials who enjoyed DBZ and adult swim starting at age 19. 1980s and 1990s anime was good shit
I want those fries so bad now. But for me? Halloween buckets, dark meat nuggets, kid's cookies, and playing Sonic and Knuckles on a kiosk by the ballpit is peak McDonalds
Meh. I had Em.
dark meat nuggets... wha.. WHAT?!?
Phil Sokolof is the literal embodiment of a nerd emoji
It's really ironic how the guy went on a warpath to make McDonald's "healthier", but vegetable oil is a million times worse for your heart than animal fat.
It probably had little to do with his heart attack. His family probably just had a history of cardiac issues.
Exactly, seed oils are incredibly worse than animal fat
Yeah it's funny how few are talking about this in the comments. Vegetable and seed oils are the devil, but then again we haven't known that for very long in the grand scheme of things.
Literally all fried foods are bad in excess, muh sneed oils doesn't change that
@@jacobestersonvegetable oil isn't even made from vegetables.
Vegetables themselves don't even produce oil
@@Mr-pn2eh don't drink the nut juice...
Info from the past 20yrs on the effects of seed oils suggests that he probably did much more harm than good which is honestly tragic
Expected a video about someone who came in the deep fryer or something, got an interesting biography of Phil Sokolov and a story of the public's perception of fast food.
Now do a video about why the Reese's Cup tastes so bad now. I feel like I'm the only one who notices and remembers the good, thick chocolate that stayed in place when you bit into it and didn't melt instantly as soon as it came out the wrapper.
The answer to that is wax.
My brain said "no, they can't out wax in there." Then realized that's stupid, and thought "yeah but I'd notice wax In there" and realized that too, was stupid lol.
And then I thought about that experiment a couple guys ran, where they wanted to see how much sawdust they could add to rice Krispy treats before anyone could tell. And they found they could add something like 25% sawdust before anyone could possibly tell the difference lol
Reeses cups now are like biting into peanut butter flavored dirt
@@tommyleporati5644 bro you might be eating dirt.
i always thought they tasted bad, the only ones i can actually stand are reese’s thins
Its crazy how short of a window you have with mcdonald's fries, it makes using a food delivery service pointless unless you're a masochist and enjoying being price gouged for luke warm card board strips
Mmmmmm yeah. I order 5 small McDonald’s fries, with special instructions to put them all in separate bags so they get even colder, then I order 5 Taco Bell hard tacos, same deal with the bags…. And, lastly, I order a salad from a pizza place, make sure it’s the end of the night and gave them deliver it last, after it’s sat with all the hot pizza.
When it gets here, I mix it all in a huge bowl, and force feed myself until I climax.
@@ShooterMcgavin119??????? tf
@@yamomma8560 don’t act like everyone hasn’t done it at least once.
Adapted From “McMenu: Do-It-Yourself McDonald’s Restaurant Recipes”
Yields two medium-sized orders of fries.
2 large russet potatoes
¼ cup white sugar
2 tablespoons white corn syrup (Karo)
1-2 cups hot water
6 cups Crisco shortening
¼ cup beef tallow
Salt to taste
1. Peel the potatoes and cut them into shoestrings. They should be about ¼ inch x ¼ inch in thickness and about 4 inches to 6 inches long.
2. In a large mixing bowl, combine the sugar, corn syrup, and hot water. Stir to dissolve the sugar. Place the potatoes into the bowl of the sugar-water and refrigerate for 30 minutes.
3. While they’re soaking, pack the shortening into a deep-fryer. If you don’t have a deep-fryer, any sauce pot or dutch oven will suffice as long as you have an appropriate thermometer. Heat on the highest setting until the shortening has liquefied and reads between 375° and 400° F.
4. Drain the potatoes then dump them into the fryer (be careful, it will be ferocious). Nudge them around to make sure they don’t stick to one another. After 1 to 1 ½ minutes, transfer the potatoes to a paper towel-lined plate. Let them cool 8 to 10 minutes in the refrigerator.
5. While they’re cooling, add the beef tallow to the hot shortening and bring temperature back to between 375° and 400° F.
6. Add the potatoes and deep-fry again for 5 to 7 minutes or until golden brown. Again, nudge lightly to keep them from becoming one mega-fry. Remove and place them in a large bowl, sprinkling generously with salt and tossing to mix the salt evenly. Serve hot and enjoy.
got this recipe imma not use the karo or sugar because i hate that stuff in fries even if it makes the recipe different but everything else sounds good, when i get some tallo and crisco ill def be happy
Replace the crisco with lard if you don't want Alzheimer's and heart disease.
Can't wait to whip up a batch of these for friends and declare them to be "McMenu PDF Fries" without any further context
No way Crisco!!! 👎🏻 5:29
After high school I worked in a five guys for awhile and then moved to a coffee shop.
I didn't gain any weight eating a free burger every day on my shift, but started gaining weight and generally feeling like shit after I changed jobs and started eating a shit ton of sugary drinks instead of fatty burgers and fries.
Also, there's that one episode of Alone where the guy had an entire elk but was still starving because his body wasn't getting ENOUGH fat.
Sugar is absolutely the real culprit here.
Honestly, his problem was likely a combo of salt, trans fat, and simple carbs.
I wrote an entire essay on why you actually need a lot of sugar to stay alive but ofcourse UA-cam crashed.
Long story short; Dont cease your intake of sugar. You need more sugar than you think. (I dont know your gender so I will use average male) - Your body alone needs at the least 1000g "per day" of sugar *to live*. your brain uses at least ~20% of your daily intake of sugar per day which according to the NIH and FDA is 200g. I am writing this because people are actually forcing themselves to not eat anything sugary at all and even worse its more common with keto diets which are very fatty and protein heavy diets with very low sugar. The stereotype is the middle aged mom with toddlers/preteens who dont allow their children to eat very much candy, ice cream, cake, pie etc because of the stigmatism around sugar itself. A single Gatorade sports drink (chosen for popularity) contains only 36g of sugar so you can already tell how shiny of a red flag this is.
People are causing themselves harm. Low blood sugar can cause serious problems if continued for weeks or months. The worst symptoms being memory loss, brain fog, weakness, fainting, death of brain cells/tissue, Alzheimer's and eventually death.
Basically if you dont eat 3 meals a day, maybe a dessert after dinner you are harming your body anyways and burning off muscle tissue while storing fat tissue. I know because its been happening to me. Half of the overweight people on the planet are overwright because they dont eat enough.
@@evil1st Obvious troll comment lmao
An Entire Elk? Goddamn...
not really. there's not much of any single compound we eat that in proper moderation and with the lifestyle to support it, can't be healthily absorbed.
example: pizza, structurally, is actually not bad for you. it's pretty good, really. you have carbs, proteins and usually some less complex sugars from whatever you slap on top.
this guy was probably eating enough mcdo for about two grown men with WAY higher metabolism than he had, on top of (and i think this was actually the culprit) probably just being predisposed to heart attacks genetically.
carbs ARE sugars and sugars are carbs, so theoretically if they were the issue here, you'd be basically saying rice or other simple carbohydrates routinely introduced into a diet are a detriment to health. but they're not.
I like the fact that Whang managed to stretch a shower thought reminiscing over fries into an over 17 minute video.
he is a professional after all...
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Fr this should be top comment
A very American thing to do.
Their old nuggets were the bomb too. There was a time when their nuggets wasn't all white meat and were sooooooo good.
Maybe childhood memories because they tasted pretty meh to me when I was a kid 🤷♂️
Quite the opposite, they used to taste like shit and got way better when made of white meat.
Strongly disagree, the old ones sucked they were basically the same as cafeteria food.
@@spotalarm1068yeah, old fries were great, but the new nugs are way better
They weren't as dry back then.
A few months ago, I decided to try on McDonald's after years. I was shocked to find out that the fries tasted worse than the ones I made myself at home. Store-bought brandless potatoes, fried with beef tallow, tasted so much better than McDonald's which I remembered as being legendary-ly tasty. Now I know why.
McDonald's fries were still actually pretty good until about a decade ago or so, when they switched from vegetable oil to canola oil - or whatever they're using now. They can still, occasionally, taste OK if they're cooked perfect and are fresh, but most of the time they're trash.
Tbf, some of it is because, once you stop eating any given Ultra processed food, if you try going back it can be really nasty.
@@rodmunch69 mcdonalds still uses vegetable oil or atleast my store still uses vegetable oil... but no i cant eat the damn fries they fell off
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There is a Petition from 2017 to bring back the old fries, but it only got 81 supporters and is closed now. I feel that a new one would do much better, but Whang would have to promote it on his channel for that to work.
I’ll never forget the day I noticed they changed to vegetable oil. I was depressed knowing I’d never taste those amazing McDonalds fries again. They were the best.
McDonalds was STILL using Shortening all the way up until 2008. But they cut down on the amount it used in 1991, when I worked there in the Summer of 1999, it was 42% Shortening in its Trans Fat Oil.
The funny irony is that switching from tallow to vegetable oil actually made the fries LESS healthy. Because shocking as it is, tallow is actually reasonably good for you. Yes it's loaded with fat and calories but they're the good fats and calories. The ones that actually helps your body's metabolism run properly. Oils derived from vegetables, seeds, and nuts on the other hand may have low calories but they are loaded with trans fats and contain chemicals that can actually caused inflammation of the heart muscles which is actually the real cause of heart disease, not high cholesterol.
Oils from vegetables are not loaded with trans fats, but they become after frying. Vegetable oils are only good for salads, not for frying on them.
There's no caloric difference between fat types.
That's what people don't actually realise. Beef fat is the same fat our bodies produce so it's natural that our bodies can break them down. Plus think about the carnivorous animals in nature. You don't hear about lions suffering heart attacks from eating a whole wilderbeast. And when you cook red meat you can see how much fat it had as it drips of. Animals eat raw meat, plus all the fat it contains every day. Where as how many seeds does it take to extract all the oil? Way WAY more than what any human or animal could eat in a single meal.
@@ShaLun42 Veggie oils are all trash since they're all essentially seed oils high in omega 6s and raise triglycerides, it takes a lot of chemical processing BS to get oil from seeds. Even so called olive oil and avocado oils are mostly trash because they almost all are frauds, rancid, and/or mixed with seed oils. Most people don't even like real olive oil because the real stuff is bitter.
@@sus-ln1nm of course
Meanwhile in the UK, you tell a Chippy to stop using Beef Dripping for their chips... they'd promptly beat you over the head with frying pan
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@@LostSoulchild89 Oh so now we don't suck! Well you're welcome to Northern Ireland, we got the best Dripping here since all our Beef is free ranged and the beef dripping is the best
@@StudioKelpie1993 heading there now, tell McGregor to save me some fries
You can never go wrong with checkers' fries. There's a damn good reason you can find them in the grocery store.
honestly, true. checkers' fries hit really good.
Agree.
The best fries
It is called 'Rallys' in the west coast here and is honestly the best of the best of fries!
Scrumptious
Large scale heart attacks also started occurring after the large-scale adoption of seed oils earlier in the 20th century
They blamed saturated fat, but it wasn't an issue before that.
Whang finally made a video that, instead of making you not wanna eat, makes you actually wanna eat
If you wanna know what your missing just go to smaller hotdog/beef places and ask what they cook with. The neighborng town has a place that uses duck fat and the fries are really good
Nothing worse than a former addict,in phils case fast food,that becomes a crusader bc they think everyone will fall victim to their same addiction and in the process fudge everything up for the rest of us.
The duality of man
Amen brother!!
*r/NoFap in a nutshell*
Agreed.
Pretty typical of the merchants actually. Many such cases.
McDonald’s has maybe the worst fries of all major fast food companies. They are always thin and soggy and flimsy and either always have way too little or way too much salt
I remember the fries. I also remember when KFC was edible.
The problem is that people eat too much of it, which means I cant have decent chips once every few months.
Kfc is so salty now its disgusting. Popeyes is where its at now.
The compulsive eaters really ruin it for the rest of us
I worked at McDonald's in the '80s. Formula 47 fries dipped in McChicken sauce were the best. Especially when the fries had gone soft. Back in the days of McDlts, deep fried pies and fresh cooked burgers served in styrofoam containers. Before McDonald's became the example of everything wrong with the world.
Or just say fuck McDonald's and quit whimpering
Yeah but it would be nice to not to die early of a heart attack, no? The obesity rate in America proves that people’s judgment of a healthy diet/foods can’t be trusted. I say this as someone who goes to McDonalds/Taco Bell sometimes. I’m 30ish and I’ve already had issues with cholesterol. Something is very clearly wrong with the food supply still.
That's awful. You're a sick person.
@@TitaniumTurbine There are a lot more things that contribute to your health than the occasional meal and McDonald's. I'm 54 and I have great cholesterol, blood pressure and blood sugar. I guess eating those fries in the '80s didn't have as much impact as some people might think they would. The correlation between eating cholesterol and blood cholesterol is not as strong as once thought. Obesity and lack of exercise are major contributors. Of course if somebody ate nothing but fast food and never exercised, they're likely to be very unhealthy. On the other hand, some people do all the right things and still have high cholesterol. I'm not American, but I do agree that there seems to be an obesity problem in the US. I would say that more to do with personal responsibility, than it is to do with the food. Less healthy foods should be eaten only occasionally, not for every meal.
@@andrewdonatelli6953it's hard to eat healthy when a burger is half the price of a pack of strawberries, a lot of us here in the US are stuck in a financial trap that keeps us eating the cheap stuff. Some people just give up and get fat, it's honestly pretty sad
Is he the same guy that forever broke the ice cream machine?
Maybe? I really don't about this person before...
they are broken by design so the company can charge restaurants for someone to come "fix" them.
No it’s just the ice cream machines they use need to be sanitized often and they need a special technician to take it apart to do it properly. I heard they found another supplier for them.
@@lucristianx doubt it, its in the contract that they have to use the only one brand and the problem is that operators do not have full access to the machine or the information being displayed. 'often times it just gets too cold and shuts down with no "real" way of understanding that is whats wrong. Its some back door deal between McDonald corporate and the manufacturer and it just dicks over the franchisee's
God I remember when every fast food place had to have a "healthy" menu. Like that is NOT what I'm here for lmao
kinda sad how he wanted to help people but because of false information he ruined people instead
story old as time
i dont think he wanted to help anyone but his wallet
did you watched the video with your ass instead of eyes?@@feluto7172
That's what happens to people when they go on a moral crusade. They get so wrapped up in what they believe will help people, they see any opposing information as an attack on morality itself and anything they do is justified. You can see examples everywhere in society and even on opposing sides of the same issue.
@@feluto7172 Interesting claim. Please elaborate how exactly he stood to benefit financially from this?
gotta be the curly fries from arbys or jack in the box or the popeyes fries for now.
It's a real shame more places don't pull off crunchy curly fries, because they do an amazing job of retaining seasoning and have great texture.
Ew...
I love Arby's curly fries but they're so different from regular standard fries that I put them in a different category. They belong grouped with wedge fries and steak fries.
Agree that curly fries are great because of the seasoning
Burger King in the Netherlands had curly fries (I moved away, idk if they still do) and they were *so* good. To the point I'd drive an extra 10 minutes to BK rather than go to McD.
@@hannakinn I just categorize anything I can get at standard fry pricing as part of the same category. If there were actually good cheese fries at a fast food restaurant I'd probably consider that too.
Sweet potato fries as well just kinda aren't available at fast food restaurants or they'd be a contender for a default win because sweet potato is incredible with just tad of salt and when fried right to be just a bit crunchy.
To answer your question at the beginning of the video, I personally think the best fries are from Checkers/Rally’s. The seasoning blend they use is incredible.
I do quite like McDonald’s fries. They’re well-salted and always perfectly crispy due to their shoestring style.
Seriously the best. Even the Rally's fries you can buy in the frozen section absolutely slap right out of a home deepfryer.
Little did Phil know he condemned more people to heart disease by forcing a change to seed oils
That's why you should never do a knee jerk reaction without a true understanding. What he did was no different than someone switching from kfc to eating popeyes fried chicken 4 days a week. Because their doctor advised to stop eating kfc 4 days a week instead of don't constantly eat fast food or cut down on fried chicken. It would seem obvious kfc just was an example but some will take that type of example literally to mean only that.
he was paid off by big oil.
I feel like this is the kinda thing that if you got Twitter pissed off about it long enough theyll just switch, they have the money and could milk the hell out of "NEW FRIES"
If they switched back to lard fries, the Biden admin and every blue state in the country would be suing them for billions, claiming that it's making people even more fat and unhealthy and since all those fat unhealthy people are on welfare, that it's affecting the cost of medicare/medicade.
You make a good point.
True !
Honestly I think the only reason they haven't switched back yet is because of potential backlash from vegetarian or vegan consumers
@nickmcnugget16 well they do sell burgers so I'd call out the vegans for overlooking that aspect lol
I've never been so conflicted on how to feel about someone. I feel like had good intentions and genuinely wanted people to eat healthier. On the other hand, he chose the wrong alternative and basically forced all restaurant chains to fold. Idk man 😐
It seems like today, people are relearning the phrase "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". And maybe it's just the religious aspect of it that makes people ignore it or not think about its true meaning. But it absolutely applies to this guy.
Good intentions or not, his actions have lead to a huge rise in diabetes, heart disease, obesity and more.
It's the most tragic case of confidently incorrect
For him I feel sad. Especially hearing him sing, there's a real love to what he does even in that.
But Ancel Keys, the ''''scientist'''' who started this whole anti-fat/cholesterol bullshit, deserves an eternity in hell. This video scratches the surface of how truly terrible nutritional advice became after the 50's. For anyone interested enough, there's a somewhat funny but serious documentary about this, it's called Fat Head and I can wholeheartedly recommend it. It's a bit old but so is this whole topic and it holds up.
@@StrawberryDonutKing tbf, ancel keys is a mixed bag. The same people who deride his cholesterol research also love his Minnesota starvation expirament.
Iirc, he wasn't wrong either. His findings were that polyunsaturated fats are healthier than saturated fat. Nothing I've ever heard in dietetics courses disagrees with this. The problem with it is that the sugar lobby weaponized it. The diet he made was the Mediterranean diet. He wasn't anti fat. He was anti massive quantities of saturated fat.
No conflict for me, anyone who eats fast food every day then turns around and blames the fast food instead of themselves is an idiot. And that's before we take into account the fact that he ruined it for everyone. Make your own decisions, don't try to make them on behalf of others.
It didn't just effect fries, i remember the moment Lays potato chips switched over to canola oil. They were so gross tasting that i haven't bought a bag of them in 25 years.
I'm the only person I know who noticed that about Lay's
That's what's wrong with them! Thanks! Ditched all the chips about then too!!!
I remember when even “low fat” chips actually tasted good until companies quit using Olestra. What’s wrong with a little diarrhea and anal leakage?
Grandma's UTZ cooked in lard are the best.
@heathermillsphantomlimb9314 If you read the literature, you'll find Olestra only caused anal leakage in people who consumed truly prodigious quantities of said chips on a daily basis. And honestly, people with those diets probably would've had dribbly booties with or without Olestra's involvement.
Can you IMAGINE how big it would be if they brought back the original recipe?
true oe if they can make og and new ones@@spitfiremanlizerd
@@spitfiremanlizerd Vegetarian and especially vegan diets are _not_ what we evolved to eat. It would be a good opportunity to shove that down their throats.
McDonald’s destroyed the patent for it in 2004 after they discontinued using Pink Slime. Burger King also completely stopped using Trans Fat Oil and 30% Shortening after its Parent Company Guinness/Heineken sold BK to Tim Hortons in 2005.
I’m also told of a time when the tallow-oil blend was used to fry the apple pies, rather than having them baked as they are today.
We used to be a country, Justin.
While the old apple pies were as hot as the surface of Mercury, they were delicious. The ones they have now are sad and sorry.
It's true. The Pies were deep fried like nuggs and fries and filet-o-fish
Those pies were goddamn incredible. I didn't get them super often but they were a right fucking treat
Then we let in Jews and millions of immigrants.
@MSinistrari
Still as hot as the tiles of the Space Shuttle during re-entry even after you finished your whole meal, but GAHH they were a tiny little bit of heaven 😌
In the late 1980s and early 1990s you could smell McD's fries blocks away over your parents cigarettes.
So much nostalgia in just one sentence. This hit me quite hard. I was a teen in the 80s and both parents smoked until they gave up in the mid 90s. I recently lost the two of them within a year of each other and I would do anything to go back to those years.
Hell yeah that's a real 90 s memory!😮
Me in the backseat playing with the ashtray on the door armrest.
@@adamsfusion and burning myself with the lighter😁
he is responsible for so much damage to the nation's nutrition as a whole. if i had a time machine, i know what i would do
Go back and shake his hand for being such an epic troll? Yeah, me too! 😂
Him and Ancel Keyes.
@@Jolis_Parsec i mean killing millions of americans is a little more than trolling.
He wasn't the one making the food, so no, he didn't damage it. Corporations were the ones damaging it.
@@hemanownsyou they wouldn't have changed if it wasn't for the push back they were getting, much of it was caused by the pr campaigns
Corn and cottonseed oil/pretty much all vegetable oils are extremely unhealthy and they've made their way into most of the foods we eat. Good quality butter and animal fats are way better for you than vegetable oils that have been oxidized to the point of being toxic to consume. But vegetable oils are dirt cheap to produce so they'll continue to be used by the food industry whenever possible.
He seems partially responsible for todays sugar pandemic. People were fed “Fat is Bad” for so many decades when sugar is far worse.
I disagree. Both fats AND sugars are bad (especially out of moderation) and they don’t have to be attacked together/inclusively. Back then if he started attacking both of these common ingredients… then he really would have been labeled as a quack and his messaging wouldn’t have been nearly effective. Nowadays, the general public has more information than ever, but prior to the late 90s/early 2000s, it was harder to obtain health data/experiences.
He’s NOT partially responsible for a sugar pandemic just because he chose to attack a different unhealthy boogeyman. That’s not how advocacy works, rather that is an all or nothing mentality that would get us nowhere.
@@TitaniumTurbine he pushed hard enough to get the recipes changed. The intent was good but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
The video states trans fats use increased at a result of the low fat movement. I would guess addition use of sugar and artificial sweaters followed as these manufacturers tried to keep their product tasting good.
I’m not an expert but doesn’t modern nutrition science say a diet high in protein and naturally occurring fats but low in carbs and sugars is the key to losing and maintaining a healthy weight.
Ultraprocessed foods are the culprit. Squabbling over macros doesn't help anyone.
Sugar won't make you fat all that quickly, but it will rot your teeth, and cause an insulin spike and subsequent crash, which has been linked to all kinds of health problems, including cancer.
Fat will just stick to your ass, clog your arteries, and ironically enough, give you diabetes.
And what do modern ultraprocessed foods have a lot of? Fat AND sugar. (Also excessive salt, but that's another can of worms.)
Just eat your damned veggies. Don't drench them in butter. Don't glaze them with sugar. Brussel sprouts are just fine without some maple bacon bullshit.
Like Snackwells cookies... they're low fat, so I can just eat the whole box right? They're good for me! (Never mind the sugar)
I don't understand how a lot American people still believe that starting their day with cereal, peanut butter sandwiches, flavoured yogurts, box orange juice and everything like that is healthy. And stuff like lunchables and pizza pockets being considered as common school lunch for kids is a crime.
I like the idea that this guy did ALL OF THIS instead of, you know, not eating fatty and fast foods all the time? Like maybe once a week not everyday?
Whang is a real Journalist. He will probably get whacked soon for digging this deep though.
I wasn't even in elementary school when the change occurred, and I still remember those fries. They're up there with Pizza Hut bread sticks as best treats of all time.
The full change was in 2008. They were STILL using Shortening when I worked there in ‘99, but they had cut way back on it.
@@plawson8577 shortening is not beef tallow.. stop posting this
This is so true, nothing compares to the old McDonald’s fries, & not just them, it’s the changes throughout most fast food restaurants nowadays. This was such an interesting dive to watch! You should continue a series on other beloved fast food classics & the changes! 💯
That's why Five Guys is so good. Though they don't use beef fat, they do use peanut oil which is still really good.
Not just fast food, shit like cereal recipes changed for the worse. I don't eat the stuff much anymore, but I'll try some Count Chocula and Boo Berry in October and shit just doesn't taste like it used to, it has a weird bland chemical taste.
That would be cool. Should do one on what happened to Jack in the box thought that they changed back, never been the same.
There's a video on UA-cam of the queen herself Julia Child even lamenting the change to the McDonald's French fries in an interview. She was very much the polar opposite to Sokolof, I think. Because she loved food and didn't believe skimping on butter and fats. One quote: "You need some fat in your diet, or your body can't process your vitamins." That being said, being healthy is important but everyone's bodies process things differently sometimes. It's not always a one size fits all situation.
Wendy's held the title of Best Fries for years, but then they changed something and now they're all wrong from how they were a decade ago.
Five Guys has the best fries overall, but they are too expensive to be "fast food."
Popeyes is a solid choice for #1. Love the seasoning.
Popeyes has such good mac & cheese and biscuits. 😋
@@hope-cat4894that goes for Popeyes and KFC imo. Though KFC is a bit dry, the mac and cheese are always a delight.
I just really wish Popeyes was better near me- I once went their with my grandma and they fucked up our order so hard. We would’ve returned it if it wasn’t for it being pretty far away.
What changed about Wendy's fries was their Spicy Nuggets. They cook them in the same oil, so everything that comes after an order of Spicy Nugs has a hint of Spicy Nug that taints the overall flavor.
Have you tried Mooyah?
Five Guys fries are alright. Their cajun fries? Absolutely amazing.
We really let a tap dancing man named SuckemOff tell us about french fries? We are truly lost
A lot of the times when they change something, it's always a substitute that makes things even worse than its intended purpose.
Yep. Nothing wrong with tallow, lard, or butter in moderation. Cottonseed and the rest of the seed oils were completely untested for long term effects and have been put in every single product since then because of the supposed lower cholesterol, instead of convincing the public to eat better
what kind of fucking pervert eats things that are dunked in the fat taken out of a cow's dead body
I thought that that's definition of substitute cheaper and less good
They? That's awfully antisemitic.
@@mister_stangDude. You need to see a psychologist for that obsession.
the world would be a better place if they kept on making them like they used to
edit: jesus please my notifications can only take so much..... no more replies........ *AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*
Fresh cut in house and fried in tallow, the only major place I know that cuts their fries in house is Five Guys
I feel like that goes for a lot of things, though I feel like that’s less and less true as time goes on. Somethings definitely should’ve stayed like they were but some new things are actually quite amazing and wouldn’t be possible if it weren’t for manufacturing improving upon it.
@@supraguy4694In n out cuts them in house baby 😊
what kind of fucking pervert eats things that are dunked in the fat taken out of a cow's body
@@McSwordyeast coasters are sad they can’t experience those fries.
He's long dead, we should go back to the way they were. I miss the old fries so much.
I used to live near a fish and chip place that fried their chips in beef dripping. Fantastic stuff. I'd certainly love to try out that old McDonald's recipe someday.
So basically the guy thought it was better for all fastfood to change instead of him being able to show some restraint and not eat it everyday
He did that though, they mentioned in the video that he changed his entire diet. I think he took it as a point that what he, and so many other people were eating was not healthy. I speak from his perspective, I make no claims on cholesterol and whatnot as I’m not a doctor
Rules for thee…
@@AwfullyDeer Well yeah he dialed it back but he missed the key part of "too much of anything is bad," and should have been advocating for people not overconsuming it on the regular instead of trying to make it okay to shovel it into your mouth 24/7 (he still failed at that)
@@DracoSafarius I’m not agreeing to anything he did, I think he jumped to conclusions on the causes to unhealthiness too. I commented what I did because he was accused of something he didn’t do
Eating fries while watching this... though usually eating during a Whang video is not a good idea lol
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Yay! I can come back to a Whang video because he's not talking about fricken poop this week.
It's also funny that they switched to vegetable oils, which are themselves coming under scrutiny for even worse health issues.
I have a background in nutrition, and still stay up to date with new studies and information, unlike 99.9% of graduates. I used to be a nutritional adviser for those in bodybuilding and athletics, which means I had to really know my stuff as clients were sometimes competing against some of the most physically optimized athletes around.
I'm sure Phil meant well, but he honestly did an outrageous amount of damage in terms of how much disinformation he spread about nutrition, how he led people to eat worse diets, and how the pressure of his pseudoscientific diets made food (like McDonalds fries) become worse tasting as much as they became worse for you. This video does get it right, the sugar industry bought out most of the academic research being done at the time to divert attention from sugar since heart disease, obesity, diabetes, cancer, auto-immune and other diseases were on the rise. Early evidence was showing it was mainly stemming from simple sugars, and they needed to cover it up. Despite what you may believe, this problem hasn't gotten better, if anything it's worse. Most academic studies are frauds for-profit. We know now that sugars were the real underlying cause of all those problems now, because over time we were able to get unbiased research outside corporate or corrupt gov't funding, with replicated results.
Still, the pseudoscience is mainstream, and to this day doctors have no idea about nutrition. Most doctors and scientists learn in university, and when they graduate, they stop reading. Most do this. If you doctor graduated in the early 90s, he will still tell you to avoid saturated fats. Fats (besides trans-fats) and cholesterol are bad for you. It is only bad when you have unbalanced amounts, like a lot of saturated fats without mono and polyunsaturated fats IN COMBINATION with too much sugars/simple carbs. Protein and fats are the main components of animal meat, something our bodies are designed for. Carbs are the unnatural addition. Humans naturally got their carbs from just fruits and vegetables, but since the introduction of simple carbs and sugars our bodies aren't made to handle it.
There are only a few things in diets that are bad no matter what: Trans-fats, sugars, and seed oils are the most common poisons that have zero upside. Many people don't realize this, and will substitute margerine instead of butter, not knowing that butter is healthy in small amounts while margerine is toxic. Ever since the addition of simple sugars, obesity, diabetes, heart disease and other health issues have become more common. However, since the addition of seed oils, which are in nearly everything now, cancer and immune system issues have exploded to a rate we have never seen in history. It's sad and ironic that McDonalds went from an okay recipe to an EXTREMELY unhealthy, borderline poisonous, recipe all because of academic fraud leading to disinformation.
Nutritional disinformation still exists today. You gotta be careful, because many doctors have outdated/incorrect information. You should be limiting your exposure to seed oils, avoid trans fats, eat plenty of polyunsaturated / omega-3 fats, and avoid sugars. Simple carbs without any nutritional value like white breads, pasta and rice are converted to sugars pretty quickly in the body, and although not AS bad as drinking a sugary drink, should be limited. If you do have sugars, they should be limited and not mixed with fats, but protein instead. It's hard to do, because our idea of nutrition has been the victim of propaganda, pseudoscience and ignorant activists that do more harm, so we don't have many options for healthy food. Even the "healthy" grocery stores or restaurants are usually garbage and just semi-organic versions of the same dumb diets. This is why odd diets like the "only eating red meat" diet has benefitted people, because even though it's not optimal, it weeds out so much poisons we normally eat and are told are "healthy".
sounds like a reverse pyschology psyop, for all i know, its just common sense to lower carbs and fatty foods. It just the law to put a label on the ammount of nutrition on food labels, its better to know than know nothing, thats the point
Well informed and well presented, Josh. Kudos.
@@AlamoOriginalThen why has obesity in the US skyrocketed since this "common sense" mode been adopted? In my experience, "common sense" is usually neither.
@@AlamoOriginal its not the governments place to do anything much less force companies to label things, more so when how they are labeling them is factually incorrect. Government caused obesity, its not going to fix it by adding useless numbers to labels.
@@themoviedealers Because people don't give a shit. A long life is a luxury for the rich as they are the only ones able to afford a higher quality of living in their old age I'm fine if I live until 60 after that life's gonna suck anyways.
The thing is you can see an almost direct correlation between the use of seed oils and rise of obesity/heart disease. So this guy in all reality probably caused way more harm and almost no good
“It is perfectly obvious that the whole world is going to hell. The only possible chance that it might not is that we do not attempt to prevent it from doing so” - J. Robert Oppenheimer
Correlation does not imply causation.
People eat more calories on average than they ever have in human history, and they sit around way more as well.
@@luke_fabis The nutrients in the calories matter. If you limit your calories to 500 a day but it’s all alcohol, it will still have a negative effect on the body.
@@lucristianxYeah, because you’d be malnourished, in reality it is mostly raw amount of calories burned and eaten. Though, it is good to stick to foods like vegetables, fruits, and nuts which contain unsaturated fats and complex sugars.
@@lucristianxwhy would limiting your diet to 500 calories a day be beneficial regardless? You'd be starving yourself. Calories aren't bad. Calories are a necessity.
They still have amazing fries. The problem is, 2 minutes after coming out of the grease, they suck.
Might be the location. My local McDonald's has tasty fries, and the hold-up even past the two minute mark.
Amazing might be strong but they are good, except the one near me is very inconsistent,like yheres almost no training or quality control. One week, they're fine, then a week or 2 later. I'll go back, and they're soggy and severely lacking in taste if not outright bad tasting, then the next time they might be fine or even great.
They’re mid even fresh from the best McDonald’s
so basically "I nearly killed myself with my own bad habits so I'm going to ruin everything for everyone else"
Beef tallow makes fries delicious. I hear Malcolm Gladwell talk about this. He was given a large amount of tallow at the end of the episode and he enjoyed fries like we used to have.
McDonald's has been going downhill. I used to love them so much, but the quality control is out of wack at all the chains now. They don't train the workers like they used to. 😔
The food is too expensive and taste mediocre. They have completely forgotten what their role was
Not to mention the prices. When I was a kid you could get decent fast food for a good price. Now I’d rather just make dinner at home.
I know what you mean. I can understand the quality and taste being different between stores, but when you go the the same every week or 2, the food shouldn't look and taste almost completely different, like one week I'll go and thecfries are fine than a week or were I go and they're soggy and almost tasteless.
Last time I had mcdonalds the patty of my quarter pounder was literally folded in half, and somehow half of it was still outside of the buns.
@@WretchedRedoran I know, sometimes their burgers look like a badly shuffled deck of cards.
I remember people told me for the longest time that I needed to try five guys so I finally did. I was so disappointed and underwhelmed because everyone made it seem so great. I was like, ok I get a LOT of food but if not particularly good.
This guy was a villain. Seed oils are poison, and now they're in everything.
This is not the kind of video I expected Justin to make but I’m glad he did
This guy was the kind of guy who loved the smell of his own farts
The biggest suspicion I have is that all this was done because of one man’s garbage diet. Blows my mind that the guy has a heart attack, admits to an addiction to burgers and fries, and never once thought of eating something else like pasta or chicken or anything else not red meat.
Or even just cutting back. Instead of eating burgers and fries 6 days a week how about once a week.
@JesusChristMomGetOut Even though it seems a selfish reason, this is how most research gets funded. Christopher Reeves didn't fund breast cancer research after he was paralyzed...he funded paralysis research.
@JesusChristMomGetOut but he...... Made it way worse? "Do the research" doesn't work if you're a moron.
Well this prick didn't just ruin McDonalds, he also, more importantly, ruined KFC.
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The McDonalds apple pie was also ruined. It used to be a delicious, deep fried pocket of yummy goodness. But they changed it sometimes around 1992 to be a generic, baked pocket.
I wondered why even as of 2004 when I had my first and only taste of one, I was somehow disappointed (WHAT 4 YEAR OLD CAN BE DISAPPOINTED BY A PIE)
My favorite fries are the ones from Freddy's Frozen Custard and Steakburgers. It's more of a southern/midwestern thing, but it's great. They cut their fries super thin, so you can just eat them by the handful, and they're very flavorful.
Sounds like Steak n' Shake.
As an 80s Kid , I can testify ! McDonald's Fries where so damn Good! And a lot of other fast food was so much better before they removed Trans Fats .... Seriously ! Why do we need Healthier Fried Chicken/Burgers !?
Are there any modern fries that taste like the old mcdonalds fries to you? I'd like to know what they taste like as someone who grew up with the new ones
@@danielsmokesmidsgotta make them yourself at this point. Might be diners that have tallow fries, but all fast food joints use the same trash oils
Because boomers had to be fat, avaricious leeches who needed to ruin everyone's fun over their addictions _and_ be sanctimonious while they're at it.
@@W3irdWombatcare to watch the video till the end?
COmmon knowledge of those food prep industry? @@W3irdWombat
The only fries you will ever need the rest of your life are freshly cooked Rally's fries. End of discussion
I don't need a pound of seasoning per fry to cover up the fact they use shitty potatoes
No.
Loved Rally's fries as a kid! Didn't have them very often- our household needed to put the money on the main food item, you know? But the first time I tried Popeyes fries it really reminded me of them.
holy shit youre a goblin for this take m8
Checker's fries are superior
Karen made his issues everyone else's problem. He's exactly the kind of person you'd see running an HOA. A self-righteous busy body who feels entitles to control everyone else.
Coincidentally, I was discussing this week with my mother of 70+ about how bad McDonald Fries taste today and how I remember as a kid, it tasted like nothing else. Going to McDonalds in the 80's was magical for kid. You could have a date at McDonalds and your date would be happy, unlike today where it would be your last date :D
It really was magical as an 80s kid, I'll never forget going to McDonald's in the 80s. All their food was better not just the fries plus the playgrounds which they no longer have and the characters that disappeared. Ahhhh I miss the 80s.
@@secondswellDo they really not have playgrounds at McDonalds in the US?? They're everywhere in Australia
@@TOBAPNW_ They've dialed them back immensely
@@TOBAPNW_ they still have them just not all locations
Then McDonald's thought of making it more modern but painting it all black and gray in 2020. Really sucked out the charm
We need to start a petition to bring back beef fries from McDonald’s 👀
If Sokolof would have passed from his heart attack, we may just be enjoying those same fries today!
Funny how they're now discovering the vegetable and seed oils are extremely bad for you. The irony
Still less bad than animal fat.
Best would be if you went without rendered or refined fats and oils altogether and just stuck to whole foods. Flax is always going to be better for you than fries.
@@luke_fabisbullshit
@@luke_fabisit isn't less bad tho
@@luke_fabis whole foods include fat my guy. I genuinely do not think you understand what the word means.
@@kalackninja"rendered or refined fats" is what they said, not just "fat", my guy