I tell you...I had actually both arms broken, that was because a motorcycle accident. It was at 16 and like Whang said at the beginning, you can't even wipe your ass. So...your mother actually helping you with that it's...really humiliating, I remember once crying because I really felt overly embarrassed. This guy didn't give a one flying fuck.
From the age of 12 up until now, 31, I've had to depend on my mom, dad, sisters, mom, grandma, strangers, brothers, and friends to help me do things like bathe and eat and dress, etc. not all of them did the same things ,but it's just an example. it was embarrassing depending on the person. with my family and husband it was fine. with friends and strangers, it was weird. it just depended on the situation and where I was. but I had no choice. I had to get help with certain things because of constant arm surgeries. it sucked. I couldn't imagine even needing this. all I needed was the basics. this story is just ridiculous and abusive.
to me, it sounds like he could've been subtly groomed through out his childhood, i.e., being exposed to sexual/explicit material or situations - and when his parents (specifically his mother) had an opportunity to "carry out" their sick fantasies, they took it. i mean, humans are literally genetically hardwired to AVOID incest, i cant fathom how he would just "be attracted" to his MOTHER. nothing about this story seems right.
CSA survivor here. Unless something is wired horribly wrong in his brain SOMEHOW, yep. If there's no grooming, there's a very horrible and visceral reaction to any of this crap. 100% there is something he left out, or his brain is megafucked. Leaning toward the former, given how BOTH parents were in on it.. makes my stomach turn.
@@Channel-23s Many children who are groomed are unaware they were groomed even well into adulthood. Serial killers have said they had normal childhoods and seemed to honestly believe it, but when they describe the childhood any sane person says 'that's not normal!' But it's all they knew, they weren't aware something else was going on for other people. all kids assume everyone else is getting the same thing at home that they are unless shown otherwise. And once you're into adulthood it's incredibly hard to face that something was wrong with how you were raised even if you start to catch on. (I'm in my 30s and only just began to understand/face that I was groomed my whole childhood by my father. I had, until then, thought I had a good close relationship with him. I had mistaken sexually inappropriate behavior for familial closeness because it's all I knew of parental behavior.)
I thought about this as well. theres no way some 14 year old kid would accept a handjob from his mother out of the blue. there HAD to be prior grooming
I remember mroglolblo from back in the day, he used to write foul outrageous shit like that back in the day, usually really long paragraphs - he definitely could use a video. Can't believe this shit was a decade ago
@@chikirin9349 yeah, you can reuse fleshlights with regular cleaning; with a hooker you have to pay for every use and *hope* that regular cleaning happened.
For me, the most fucked up thing about this thread was the fact that apparently this abuse was good for the parents' sex life. I think that the broken arms were just an excuse for spicing up these people's relationship. It's actually horrifying
@@mattbarker1411Proof? You can go around assuming everything is fake on the internet, sure, but it just makes you seem like a paranoid kook at all times 😂😂
Hm... yeah... switch the gender role a bit. What if it was a father masturbating his underage daughter because her arm was broken and she was sexually frustrated?
I thought the exact same thing. I have PTSD from a car accident and severely injured limbs are a trigger for me. When it auto-played, I was quickly trying to find something else to watch, but in just the first few seconds, it became obvious that this was not what I had anticipated.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu fair. It didn’t disturb me, per se. But it was just much worse than the premise suggested with full on sex, swallowing, etc. I just didn’t expect the situation to go so far or be so casual.
What messes me up the most about the story is he says they started this when he was 14 and they didnt stop till he left for college, thats 4 to 5 years of their sexual relationship. The fact that they didnt stop once he was able to have use of his arms again is what makes this all the more disgusting.
The most plausible explanation I can think of for why he’d leave so abruptly and never post the research is that most likely, the researcher helped him realize the incest was WAY more traumatic than he initially assumed. He was fourteen. That shit will scar you for life and some people repress the worst of the trauma.
Im not even understanding why the researcher wanted to add a non consenting relationship to his research??? If they want to research on positive incest cases then do it between two consenting adults- For all we know this dude could have been groomed into thinking it was okay.
Having worked in academia, I actually think the most likely reason is that the paper didn't get published. Researchers conduct the research before submitting for publication. I think it's likely that the study didn't produce a result that was statistically significant in any way, or else didn't produce enough insights for a journal to consider it worth publishing. And I mean this from a scientific perspective, not from a general interest one. I think we're used to the idea that stories like this always get published because they get clicks, but the standard for research papers is much different.
@@stopmakingeyesatme1290 ...I hadn’t even thought about that possibility. You’re right, and given that this case is leagues away from the supposed subject of study - non-traumatic incest cases, which this isn’t by definition because a minor can’t give consent - maybe the results became muddled by anecdotic evidence. Not really sure, I’m not in the field of psychology or sociology.
@@stopmakingeyesatme1290 This was my thought too. I’ve never done psych research. I’m from a biology/medicine background. So, I also wonder if there might be some ethical issues with such a paper. I imagine following ethical protocols is difficult when studying such behavior. I mean, I have to go through IRB red tape just to take blood from consenting adults for research purposes. Even talking about incest could be very traumatic for the victims, and yes this guy was a victim.
Um. It started when he was 14, and in his own words, it ended when he went off to college. His arms weren’t incapacitated for 4 years, were they? This is *really* dark.
I was stood in a skatepark one night after a session, talking to a mate. While we talked, a kid walked up behind us. He was there a few minutes, a FEW MINUTES, before interrupting. "Should I go to hospital?" he asks, meekly. Dude had 5 fucking elbows, those arms were almost tentacles. Stood quiet until we finished talking shit before he asked us. Balls and manners on that kid, never forgot it.
@i am depressed I actually snapped my femur while mountain biking in the middle of nowhere. I'd only got a cellphone the day before, no joke. Got airlifted - first ever time flying, in a very ropey helicopter too... ugh! Dynamic hip screw, and I'm sorted. Thank goodness I live in the UK, and got that fine surgery for free, You yanks would be looking at a six figure debt for that. - as for the kid, shock, most probably. Stiff upper lip? Most certainly!
To this day, I still can't figure out how they have an emotionally unstable and disabled teenager and their first fucking thought was, "Ah yes, he needs to have sex" like ?!?!? I will NEVER understand how that was the ultimate decision here.
what i don't get is, he said his mom wasn't his first sex partner, his girlfriend was. if thats the case, why didn't he just get his girlfriend to take care of it? did he not think to ask her during those 2 weeks? did the parents not know he had a girlfriend? this whole situation never even needed to happen.
@@justarandomuser8434 Considering if this was say a tendon/ligament tear, healing can take several months if not over a year in bad cases. That's enough time to meet someone, form a (admittedly shallow) relationship, and get to business. He did say it was a very slow progression from hand/mouth, to sex.
I love the idea of 'non traumatic incest' because THERE IS NO SUCH THING (with large age differences/power dynamics, peer aged can be different) Maybe your flight or fight responses weren't tripped. Maybe you felt safe in the environment. Maybe you were around people you felt comfortable with. But those circles are not supposed to intersect. It WILL have affects on this development and perspectives on things. Sure, it's not as terrifying as rape, but trauma can still happen under the radar and be window dressed as something normal or natural. Some of the worst trauma is the stuff you never truly realized how much it hurt you because you were completely obvious. It's like kids who were raised in cults who finally get out. They felt 'happy' In their cult. It didn't feel like a cult. They felt they belonged and had a good life. When they were brought back to reality, sudden they recognize all that was truly wrong. Oblivion and Ignorance are bliss. To add, making it sound clinical is the best way to get them introduced to it without fear. They're scared when they go to the dentist. They're scared when they go to the doctor. But they understand that something clinical is to help them and they should ease their nervousness and let it happen for the good of them. Once you have that foot in the door you can do a lot after that. It's grooming. Whether they realize it or not. But the fact that she hid it from the father, shows she knew shame. And the fact he didn't tell anyone shows he had shame.
if it was real, you can't deny she's an awful person for not considering he'd have to keep that secret from his future partners FOREVER if he ever got out of that fucked up situation. that would weigh on a person IMO… there's no way to get out of that situation unscathed
Agreed, and I find it HIGHLY suspect that the researcher in question works in the field of child psychology. Kid-related jobs are, after all, notorious for attracting nonces. Anyone who thinks that incest can be non-traumatic is quite obviously warped in their thinking, if not an outright deviant themselves.
@@peachy_lili I mean seems to him like it’s not that big of a thing to hide bigger things have been taken to the grave and somethings aren’t really for telling outta nowhere information is more helpful when given rather then random or strange to hear
@@deanmoriarty6015 I'm amazed at how often people have repeated that chungus joke when it was barely funny to begin with; how long as it been since it started? Because it feels like years to me.
I have long thought it a fabrication. I never found it funny, but certainly 'laughed it off' in the sense that I took it as just another internet troll trying to stir the s#!t. Legit sad and depressing finding out there is apparent truth to it.
@@britishgamer666 Yes. It is absolutely real. A doctor/medical professional that studies incest and things of that matter verified this after speaking with both parties.
As a victim of grooming, this makes me absolutely fucking LIVID that she isn’t imprisoned and the father let this happen. This is exactly how people who were groomed think, that it was ok and normal although it wasn’t. Dude could’ve lasted 3-6 months without that I’m pretty sure as well?
Also in what world would you see your child being upset after losing function in their arms and assume it was because he needed to get off? I feel like he was seriously struggling mentally and instead of getting him help, his parents took advantage of that to play out some twisted fantasy they had already imagined before they got the “opportunity” to act it out. It’s absolutely disgusting and I hope OP is doing better.
I came here to hear a story about someone getting their arms brutally broken in some disgusting way. And you just came out of my closet and hit me with a f****** bat.
Did the accident that fucked his arms up also give him brain damage? Because that’s the only way I can see someone being totally ok with this. There has to have been some other kind of abuse that occurred before this. I refuse to accept that everything was normal until mom offered him a handy.
I do feel like there must have been something(s) left out regarding before the accident. But who knows, over 7 billion people. Maybe she just used the opportunity, but didn't have the courage before. Who knows.
Wrong, if it's two consenting people there is no problem, as long as they don't try for a baby it doesn't harm anyone Just because YOU don't agree with it or can't imagine doing it doesn't mean everyone else feels the same, there is no objective way of looking at life everyone is different and there is no right or wrong Your way of thinking is ignorant and is no different to homophobic people view gays in that you are against two consenting adults being in a relationship based purely on your own bigotry
I think I watched another video that they make you say crap like what you have to say, how long it is and how much footage to have. I wouldn't be shocked if they fudge the numbers to make it look more impressive. I don't know why you would play it from the footage I've seen it's not anything special for a mobile game. I know they say not to judge a book by the cover but with mobile games 90% of the time "what you see is what you get".
I can't belive its only been around for 2 years because it feels like its been annoying me with its constant advertising for what seems like a eternity.
I’m a gymnastics coach and once, a student broke both her arms at the same time and she came up and held up her mangled arms and said “I think something is wrong with my arms” Yeah champ I’d say so
Shock and adrenaline are great things! Once nearly ripped my entire left knee apart while downhill mountain biking and smashing my kneecap between two rocks which had roughly the space half the width of my kneecap between them ... stood up, brushed the dirt away, took my bike and walked home 10km, getting into the shower, cleaning the OBVIOUS wound and then going to sleep ... went to the doctor the next day as it was 'starting to hurt a little bit' xD EDIT: Tendons, ligaments and muscles were all still okay but kind of jumbled up inside the kneejoint, no obvious fractures either on xray, didn't get surgery and took about 6 to 8 weeks to be 'fine' again, only have some pain in my left knee from time to time and a scar that's pretty much the size of my knee cap on my knee, happened ~24 years ago
@Cat Egorical Eh, not everyone heard the story or was around for it. Others forgot parts since it's been 10 years. Curiosity and nostalgia are powerful things.
I think the mother probably groomed him before that and the father consent it cause he saw it as a mean to satisfy her without breaking their marriage and still got jealous. If they think it wasnt wrong or traumatic, dont see why keep it as a secret? Like go off and shout how good for the family it was lol but they dont cause deep down they knooow it was ilegal, abusive and fucked up.
@@ismathekingg6099 Crazy cause there’s another thread similar to this where some dude has sex with his dad and the response is totally different. Both equally messed up cases tho
I'm not a man, but between mom and a homie i figure you'd choose the latter? At least you can ghost the homie if it's awkward after . You gotta live with your mom for the foreseeable future
Or a nice sofa or something? After two weeks no nut probably anything would work. Even buying a prostitute's hand job would be better than offering his MOTHER 🤮
no. Imagine this on a parenting group “So my son broke both of his arms and he’s been really grumpy! What can I do since the essential oils don’t seem to be cutting it?”
@@Prosecute-fauci Conservatives are actually a lot more likely to be pedophiles, see the Catholic church, republican boomers in favor of child marriages, lib-rights advocating for the loweing of the age of consent, 4chan users who are addicted to drawn child pornography, etc. Disgusting!
@@emperortgp2424 1. the catholic church is left-wing these days. 2. never heard of repub boomers in favor of child-marriage 3. as a libertarian, that's only a jab constantly made at us and not an actual position. 4. what's worse, 4chan (a site that not even right wing since it's mostly just slightly edgier reddit now) drawing fictional children in gross position while not actually hurting children or twitter (which is much much bigger btw) actively having pedo (not lolicons like 4chan but actually pedophiles) communities and cp on their site? I'm not going to say you don't know what you're talking about w/ the 2nd point, maybe I haven't heard it, but you don't have a clue for the rest.
That moment when you remember that two decades ago one of your kinda-friends broke both of his wrists when he we was 14, a month or two before his only sister left for college.
he said his arms weren't actually broken, so it was a coincidence. please do not remember your friend as the guy who fucked his mom, because it's not him.
That's because people are more put off by incest stories than they are with things involving violence/gore or gross things like puke or bug infestations etc, or things people are doing to themselves not involving another person. Like, he actually looked more comfortable when he was reading about the girl who put garbage and maggots in herself than he was reading this.
On one hand, I really don't want this to be true because there's no way you don't come out of that super fucked up BUT the idea someone would invent this convoluted story for kicks is also deeply unsettling
also where there’s a will there’s a way, he could’ve just rub it against something 💀. not blaming him, on the contrary, what im saying is they didn’t need to do that to say the least
Seriously if he was having such horrible reactions to not being able to beat off maybe that says something about addiction that he needs to break. Wild that the mother and father aren’t arrested
@@gotyouchip1179 Yah. That only makes the addiction worse, A spiral is disgust and shame, and it ruined not only real sexual experiences but your mind too, as that will be the ONLY thing you will think of.
Just to add a dimension on this: the father did say he was a bit jealous, however OP also mentioned that on the nights his mother would "help" him, the sex between his parents would be much more...vigorous. I think they were both into it to a point.
@@twizz420 I read through the whole ama and frankly, it sounded like his dad was into it. The fact that he was "jealous" instead of utterly repulsed means I think he was into it.
that's disgusting. i just watched a documentary some weeks ago about a man who experienced the same situation as a child, except instead of going to reddit, he pressed charges against his father & stepmother, like a normal person.
Poor Barbara Imagine having that huge brute and his vile scent on top of you everyday. And the worst part? You have dementia, so you forget, getting to relive it over and over anew. If Karma is real, Barbara probably burned down an orphanage to deserve this 😐
I imagine Greek Hero Oedipus would've still poked his own eyes out even if his arms were broken. Holy shit this is pain. I feel the same pain too Whang.
When you just accept that it's surely made up and give in to the horny, it becomes just another "incest" porn scenario, this time in the form of an AMA.
@@MizantropMan Well it’s difficult to chalk this up as a made up story when it was verified by the mods. They went through a good amount of research to prove that this story was true.
The fact the article never got published does kind of make me doubt his story was ever real. That might just be wishful thinking but reddit mods are not infallible
@@TheOfficialBrother This is one of those things where logically there's no ethical issue with the study, but the optics are an ethical issue. It's like not continuing down the path of questioning opened by the Milgram Experiment. Only one possible result can be reached without causing a social meltdown, so rather than falsify the science or have that happen, it's shut down. The ethical issue here would more be that the study would be seen as pro-incest propaganda if it didn't rule firmly against incest, regardless of what the data shows or how well the study is done.
@@PosthumanHeresy We also should consider the possibility that they paper simply didn’t make it past review for more grounded reasons, it might just not have been well done research. Ironically, the Milgram experiment is kinda an example of this, it’s since come out that there was significant manipulation of the experiment to reach a certain result.
@@astraldirectrix Yeah, I feel like a lot of people who make an Oedipus reference don't know that fact, but OP must have if he knows the gouging his eyes out part.
was 14 when the mom first started 'helping' him and they didn't stop even after his arms healed up all the way to collage age, like I don't know what 2 think :( the mom and maybe dad groomed and abused him and its sick
I just imagine it like one of the many cartoons where someone's friend gets hurt and even after they've healed up, they continue to pretend to be hurt so they can be lazy and taken care of. That was the vibe I got. Maybe he just wore whatever medical shit the entire time, paying doctors to tell his parents that for whatever reason, his fucked up little arms just wouldn't heal. Haha. I don't fucking know anymore.
I'd like to imagine that the twist is that the research psychologist collecting the information for the paper just happened to be that first guy who wrote the really long replies. Upon completion, people become too uncomfortable reading through pages which were about 30% statistical analysis and 70% fanfic of how he wished the scenarios turned out, that unfortunately no one read through enough of it for it to ever be peer reviewed, hence never published.
The reason he never shared the article is probably because the writer couldn’t find an academic journal to publish the work. If the writer/researcher actually works in the psychology field, they are mandated by law to report shit like this to the authorities.
Well yeah, but this stuff was years ago, are psychologists not allowed to do studies on murderers? As long as things have been handled, it should be possible to get a study done.
@@MrKarato Well, when you consider interviewing a murderer, that implies they’ve already been to court and convicted over the issue. Also, nothing stopped the researcher from conducting his research. I’m pointing out that no academic publication would want something like this in their publications, because it would almost certainly cause the FBI to knock on their door.
@@MrKarato Well, the guy said the paper was on "positive incest experiences" or some nonsense like that. So it'd be more like trying to publish a paper on "serial killers who were actually pretty good dudes."
You're totally right about the "if the genders were reversed" thing, I couldn't see this flying and becoming a joke if that was the case. All these years and that one South Park episode is still relevant.
I literally had an ad for a church mission in the middle of this video, almost like the Internet was telling me I need Jesus. Luckily I know better than to listen to what the Internet tells me to do.
This is grooming, the slow escalation is grooming, the suggestion is grooming, the mother taking advantage of the situation was grooming. This is all literally grooming and abuse. I really hope that person’s parents belong in jail. I hope OP worked with a therapist for a lot longer than the research project because I guarantee there is unresolved trauma.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Yea, just because a reddit mod told me this is totally legit I still wouldnt believe it because since when can reddit mods not lie
His face when he said "nope, biological" is gold. I was browsing his merch at about the same time and saw he actually has a sticker with the face 😂 incredible
I remember this story being so grossly accepted on Reddit for a long time. Where people would belittle people that were (rightfully) horrified and disgusted by the story, by saying they weren't accepting enough and taboos were just social constructs put in place by silly things like "religion." I'm glad Whang and others also find it just as disturbing now. But you also forgot to mention the fact that this person had a significant other that was fairly serious and they planned to eventually marry. Someone asked if he had told her and he said no. When asked if he would ever disclose that, he said no, never. But people thought that was pretty worrying considering if they have kids, that mother would potentially unknowingly be leaving her children to be babysat by grandma and grandpa who had absolutely no issues with abusing their own son sexually.
That's patriarchy for you. Men are seen as unable to be abused by women. Like Whang said though, the culture has changed a lot these past ten years. Things are different now
My guess would be that the lighthearted reaction has more to do with the son's willingness and enthusiasm, as well as his lack of regret up to the point of writing the post, that made people view him as less of a victim. It's not like he was pressured into it or felt conflicted, and also he was at an age where many people start having sex anyway (albeit with people their own age). I'm not saying it was right or that he truly did consent, but the average person, and especially Reddit bros, will not look at it the same way. As for patriarchy, yes that is a contributing factor for obvious reasons, but we also should acknowledge that women and most men generally do not care about men regardless of how vulnerable they appear to be, and I view that as being (in part) a distinctly separate issue from the patriarchal mindset.
I never heard of this story before so when I read the title I thought it was going to be some extreme gore stuff, meaning that the incest part was like a suckerpunch.
I'm not sure but were they as widely known of back then? Maybe roughly 20 years ago or so. Since it's a decade old story and the guy had gone to college and grown up since then.
we can all think of a bazillion alternative ways to deal with such a problem, thats exactly what makes this story fucked up. rarely are stories of people making reasonable choices that get passed around, what would be the point? its its out-of-the-box (in this case the box being ethical decency) problem-solving (or in this case problem-making and serial problem-ignoring) that give it value.
@@steven401ytx ...do you want to share something with us? your statement is indeed correct but the way you put that comment really bugs me the fuck up.
It's very interesting that a simple fact, in the right context, can make people feel uncomfortable. So many ideas that are being pushed (and accepted) these days, fly in the face of facts, reality and logic and this is a symptom of that, I think. It's interesting.
@@steven401ytx I mean there are a million differences between genders and then some, but sexual abuse is abuse on both sides, your statement sounds morally wrong and THAT causes unease within me.
My best mate broke both his arms falling from a horse when he was a teenager His Mum has to pull back his Willy skin and help him shower and wipe for a pretty long time Never heard of any other “help” I felt his pain
Bet they were both extremely uncomfortable with it. Frankly if that happens to me, I would hire a nurse to bathe me while I'm in recovery. Don't need them for anything else, they can just pop in for a half hour every day.
I once broke both arms. Cannot wipe, cannot bathe, cannot eat normally, cannot anything. My mother just told me to stop being a pussy and deal with the mess. She would not lift a finger to help me at all, let alone do this shit.
I just looked into the thread, and one of the WIERDEST replies from the Broken Arm Guy was in reply to someone asking how his fatherwas okay with this. His response, was (and I quote): "He just was. They are both very open. I wasn't a threat. *He got off on it to talking about it with my mom.*" BRUH. This family has PROBLEMS (IMO).
I used to consider being neutered, but I learned that it wouldn't affect sexual desire that much. Heck, in Rome, Eunuchs were often used for sexual activities.
It would still be child abuse In a way even if he was 18. You know how parents say you will always be there baby. It's because there is still a power dynamic and age difference.
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My innocent ass over here thinking this video was going to be a grueling tale of how this guy got his arms snapped in half.
Same I thought this was just a nasty break. Guess I was right
Fuckin same
same
I'd wish it were just a gross story about someone breaking his arms.
Ew.
Yup
I tell you...I had actually both arms broken, that was because a motorcycle accident. It was at 16 and like Whang said at the beginning, you can't even wipe your ass. So...your mother actually helping you with that it's...really humiliating, I remember once crying because I really felt overly embarrassed. This guy didn't give a one flying fuck.
at least you didnt get head
i also broke both my arms but i was in 6th grade so i thought much less about it.
From the age of 12 up until now, 31, I've had to depend on my mom, dad, sisters, mom, grandma, strangers, brothers, and friends to help me do things like bathe and eat and dress, etc. not all of them did the same things ,but it's just an example. it was embarrassing depending on the person. with my family and husband it was fine. with friends and strangers, it was weird. it just depended on the situation and where I was. but I had no choice. I had to get help with certain things because of constant arm surgeries. it sucked. I couldn't imagine even needing this. all I needed was the basics. this story is just ridiculous and abusive.
so you passed nnn?
@@user-ro1cc8tz6d bro 💀😭
Names like “Botfly Girl” and “Double Dick Guy” at least let you know what you’re in for, but “The Broken Arms Story” is such an innocent title.
i was expecting a dynamite kid kind of thing and then....
THEN INCEST, also please don’t kill me for this but i just thought of Asriel, and Toriel, from Undertale, in this story.
@@joshshrum2764 ????????????
@@galactic3536 I’m talking about the Undertale, characters.
@@joshshrum2764 *yeah but why did you have to say that outloud. we didn’t need to know??*
to me, it sounds like he could've been subtly groomed through out his childhood, i.e., being exposed to sexual/explicit material or situations - and when his parents (specifically his mother) had an opportunity to "carry out" their sick fantasies, they took it. i mean, humans are literally genetically hardwired to AVOID incest, i cant fathom how he would just "be attracted" to his MOTHER. nothing about this story seems right.
>humans are literally genetically hardwired to AVOID incest
they're not. Incest is normal in some cultures.
CSA survivor here. Unless something is wired horribly wrong in his brain SOMEHOW, yep. If there's no grooming, there's a very horrible and visceral reaction to any of this crap. 100% there is something he left out, or his brain is megafucked. Leaning toward the former, given how BOTH parents were in on it.. makes my stomach turn.
I think he’d put it in there if he was treated differently compared to other kids if anything this is more spontaneous and random incest then grooming
@@Channel-23s Many children who are groomed are unaware they were groomed even well into adulthood. Serial killers have said they had normal childhoods and seemed to honestly believe it, but when they describe the childhood any sane person says 'that's not normal!' But it's all they knew, they weren't aware something else was going on for other people. all kids assume everyone else is getting the same thing at home that they are unless shown otherwise. And once you're into adulthood it's incredibly hard to face that something was wrong with how you were raised even if you start to catch on. (I'm in my 30s and only just began to understand/face that I was groomed my whole childhood by my father. I had, until then, thought I had a good close relationship with him. I had mistaken sexually inappropriate behavior for familial closeness because it's all I knew of parental behavior.)
I thought about this as well. theres no way some 14 year old kid would accept a handjob from his mother out of the blue. there HAD to be prior grooming
Of all the possible ways humans can deal with their problems we often as a race have the creativity to choose the worst possible solution.
Second worst possible solution. Surely his father would be THE worst possible solution.
insert capitalism joke
@@DarthPerkins so there are 100 better solutions. They could have bought a Fleshlight with shower mount e.g..
Yeah, just rub against the bed, that's all you have to do if you ever have this problem.
@@DarthPerkins i mean not if he's gay 🤷 or would that be worse?
I remember mroglolblo from back in the day, he used to write foul outrageous shit like that back in the day, usually really long paragraphs - he definitely could use a video. Can't believe this shit was a decade ago
Hey Eckhart. Didn't expect to see you here.
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Hey dude!!!! Glad we love the same great stories.🤪
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
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"His family found a solution" I literally thought it would be mounting a fleshlight somewhere he could use it hands free
We all wish... 😫
Oh naw that would have made just to much sense
I thought get him a hooker but the fleshlight is a way better idea
@@chikirin9349 yeah, you can reuse fleshlights with regular cleaning; with a hooker you have to pay for every use and *hope* that regular cleaning happened.
@@chikirin9349 I thought hooker too lol
For me, the most fucked up thing about this thread was the fact that apparently this abuse was good for the parents' sex life. I think that the broken arms were just an excuse for spicing up these people's relationship. It's actually horrifying
Bruh.... It's clearly fiction.
Or y'know, they could have just hired a lady of the night for him, but this is a redditor making stuff up, what can you expect
@@mattbarker1411 even if it is, are people not allowed to discuss hypotheticals?
@@mattbarker1411Proof?
You can go around assuming everything is fake on the internet, sure, but it just makes you seem like a paranoid kook at all times 😂😂
Hm... yeah... switch the gender role a bit. What if it was a father masturbating his underage daughter because her arm was broken and she was sexually frustrated?
I'm convinced Whang is trying to see how far he can go before RAID stops sponsoring him
That's going to take awhile... Raid will literally sponsor ANYTHING
@@Metphies- this footage of a us drone strike in libya is brought to you by RAID, just like how we raided the compounds of osama bin laden
This entire process shows that Raid doesn't have standards. But Whang does.
@@Jayce_Alexander whang doesnt even, he is taking the sponsor from raid.
@@catrielmarignaclionti4518 Only so he can destroy them from the inside.
Infiltration, my friend.
I thought this was going to be about someone’s INCREDIBLY mangled arms which I was scared of. Wish it was now.
I thought the exact same thing. I have PTSD from a car accident and severely injured limbs are a trigger for me. When it auto-played, I was quickly trying to find something else to watch, but in just the first few seconds, it became obvious that this was not what I had anticipated.
I did too. but knowing Whang.... Ishould have known better
Same my man.
you know it's a bad scenario when you were HOPING for disembodied arms.
Same i broke my arm horribly my bone was sticking out 3 inches and my friends all send me broken bone vids its terrible its the worst
IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE, THE STORY JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE! HOW, HOW DOES IT KEEP ESCALATING?!?!?
Yeah, I thought I was ready based on the title. It got so. much. worse.
Haha
Are we talking worse than the swamps of dagoba story. I guess I just have a very strong stomach/constitution. This story didn't effect me at all.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu fair. It didn’t disturb me, per se. But it was just much worse than the premise suggested with full on sex, swallowing, etc. I just didn’t expect the situation to go so far or be so casual.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu what's that story?
she was definitely waiting for an excuse to do this nobody just thinks of abusing their kid suddenly on the spot
literally
What messes me up the most about the story is he says they started this when he was 14 and they didnt stop till he left for college, thats 4 to 5 years of their sexual relationship. The fact that they didnt stop once he was able to have use of his arms again is what makes this all the more disgusting.
But the initial post didn't day he broke his arms. Just that he was "incapacitated." We don't know what this involves at all.
Also she said that "she's gonna 'do it' when he's asleep" which might just be poor wording bit still, this is fucked up
this fact alone disgusts me so much. thats rape-y
@@KetsubanSolo Maybe he sprained his arms, or injured his spine. Or he was paralyzed somehow?
@@googlrscholar Pretty sure it was rape even without that detail.
“look mom, no hands!” takes on a whole other meaning after reading this one
I...ugh...goddammit Katie
OH GOD NO
Lol gross
Your not helping me imagine Asriel, saying that.
I think I’m gonna take counciling. after this comment
The most plausible explanation I can think of for why he’d leave so abruptly and never post the research is that most likely, the researcher helped him realize the incest was WAY more traumatic than he initially assumed. He was fourteen. That shit will scar you for life and some people repress the worst of the trauma.
Im not even understanding why the researcher wanted to add a non consenting relationship to his research??? If they want to research on positive incest cases then do it between two consenting adults- For all we know this dude could have been groomed into thinking it was okay.
Having worked in academia, I actually think the most likely reason is that the paper didn't get published. Researchers conduct the research before submitting for publication.
I think it's likely that the study didn't produce a result that was statistically significant in any way, or else didn't produce enough insights for a journal to consider it worth publishing. And I mean this from a scientific perspective, not from a general interest one. I think we're used to the idea that stories like this always get published because they get clicks, but the standard for research papers is much different.
@@stopmakingeyesatme1290 ...I hadn’t even thought about that possibility. You’re right, and given that this case is leagues away from the supposed subject of study - non-traumatic incest cases, which this isn’t by definition because a minor can’t give consent - maybe the results became muddled by anecdotic evidence. Not really sure, I’m not in the field of psychology or sociology.
Is it bad that I feel like he might just not give a shit about this, even today?
@@stopmakingeyesatme1290 This was my thought too. I’ve never done psych research. I’m from a biology/medicine background. So, I also wonder if there might be some ethical issues with such a paper. I imagine following ethical protocols is difficult when studying such behavior. I mean, I have to go through IRB red tape just to take blood from consenting adults for research purposes. Even talking about incest could be very traumatic for the victims, and yes this guy was a victim.
Um. It started when he was 14, and in his own words, it ended when he went off to college.
His arms weren’t incapacitated for 4 years, were they?
This is *really* dark.
Exactly
This doesn't only seem dark it seemed like something worse than any gore video...
So, he lost his virginity his mom?
@@flan6449 BRUH MOMENT
@@flan6449 nah to his gf but his first sexual experiences were
I was stood in a skatepark one night after a session, talking to a mate. While we talked, a kid walked up behind us. He was there a few minutes, a FEW MINUTES, before interrupting. "Should I go to hospital?" he asks, meekly.
Dude had 5 fucking elbows, those arms were almost tentacles.
Stood quiet until we finished talking shit before he asked us. Balls and manners on that kid, never forgot it.
That kid's name? Otto Octavius
Shock probably lmao still fucking legend
That kid is a king
Wouldn't be surprised if he was in severe shock
@i am depressed I actually snapped my femur while mountain biking in the middle of nowhere. I'd only got a cellphone the day before, no joke. Got airlifted - first ever time flying, in a very ropey helicopter too... ugh! Dynamic hip screw, and I'm sorted. Thank goodness I live in the UK, and got that fine surgery for free, You yanks would be looking at a six figure debt for that. - as for the kid, shock, most probably. Stiff upper lip? Most certainly!
I think the reason it’s just remembered as “the broken arms” story is most people didn’t read the AMA and where rather just told about it
That was exactly how I was introduced to it.
wow with so many like I feel like I should pimp my channel or something
Things could have been worse, he could have been raised by a single Dad!!
@@dhgodzilla1At least then he'd be away from Rape Mother
To this day, I still can't figure out how they have an emotionally unstable and disabled teenager and their first fucking thought was, "Ah yes, he needs to have sex" like ?!?!? I will NEVER understand how that was the ultimate decision here.
Even if it was . There are sex toys for that .
what i don't get is, he said his mom wasn't his first sex partner, his girlfriend was. if thats the case, why didn't he just get his girlfriend to take care of it? did he not think to ask her during those 2 weeks? did the parents not know he had a girlfriend? this whole situation never even needed to happen.
@@justarandomuser8434 Considering if this was say a tendon/ligament tear, healing can take several months if not over a year in bad cases. That's enough time to meet someone, form a (admittedly shallow) relationship, and get to business. He did say it was a very slow progression from hand/mouth, to sex.
@Veit Vazmei actually, aren't their toys to use without using hands? I never looked, but it could exist.
given everything they did was grooming and rape, i'd imagine the mom was probably just waiting for an excuse.
I love the idea of 'non traumatic incest' because THERE IS NO SUCH THING (with large age differences/power dynamics, peer aged can be different) Maybe your flight or fight responses weren't tripped. Maybe you felt safe in the environment. Maybe you were around people you felt comfortable with. But those circles are not supposed to intersect. It WILL have affects on this development and perspectives on things. Sure, it's not as terrifying as rape, but trauma can still happen under the radar and be window dressed as something normal or natural. Some of the worst trauma is the stuff you never truly realized how much it hurt you because you were completely obvious. It's like kids who were raised in cults who finally get out. They felt 'happy' In their cult. It didn't feel like a cult. They felt they belonged and had a good life. When they were brought back to reality, sudden they recognize all that was truly wrong.
Oblivion and Ignorance are bliss.
To add, making it sound clinical is the best way to get them introduced to it without fear. They're scared when they go to the dentist. They're scared when they go to the doctor. But they understand that something clinical is to help them and they should ease their nervousness and let it happen for the good of them. Once you have that foot in the door you can do a lot after that. It's grooming. Whether they realize it or not. But the fact that she hid it from the father, shows she knew shame. And the fact he didn't tell anyone shows he had shame.
if it was real, you can't deny she's an awful person for not considering he'd have to keep that secret from his future partners FOREVER if he ever got out of that fucked up situation. that would weigh on a person IMO… there's no way to get out of that situation unscathed
I agree with everything you said except for the “not being traumatic as rape,” because it was rape since minors cannot consent.
Agreed, and I find it HIGHLY suspect that the researcher in question works in the field of child psychology. Kid-related jobs are, after all, notorious for attracting nonces. Anyone who thinks that incest can be non-traumatic is quite obviously warped in their thinking, if not an outright deviant themselves.
@@peachy_lili I mean seems to him like it’s not that big of a thing to hide bigger things have been taken to the grave and somethings aren’t really for telling outta nowhere information is more helpful when given rather then random or strange to hear
Agree to disagree he could take a test to see if it messed with him and it could come back negative definitely weird incest situation tho
they should have just given him a bowl of cornflakes
Wait what?
I hate that I know what you're talking about
or a circumcision
😂
@Lemon Grab no
this is a reddit moment if i’ve ever heard one
if only elon musk could’ve been there instead.. that would’ve been so wholesome chungus
@@deanmoriarty6015 I'm amazed at how often people have repeated that chungus joke when it was barely funny to begin with; how long as it been since it started? Because it feels like years to me.
@@hoodedman6579 are you referring to people using it ironically or unironically lmao
@@deanmoriarty6015 I haven't seen anyone use it unironically in a few months, the people who use it 'ironically' are easily more annoying
@@emperortgp2424 disagree
I think the reason this was laughed off in the past decade is that most people would believe it to be copypasta or fanfiction
I have long thought it a fabrication. I never found it funny, but certainly 'laughed it off' in the sense that I took it as just another internet troll trying to stir the s#!t. Legit sad and depressing finding out there is apparent truth to it.
Wait its real ?
@@Viktor-gt4dx No, no way is it real.
@@britishgamer666 Yes. It is absolutely real. A doctor/medical professional that studies incest and things of that matter verified this after speaking with both parties.
@@kali6651 Do we know of this doctor/medical professional? Or the study done?
As a victim of grooming, this makes me absolutely fucking LIVID that she isn’t imprisoned and the father let this happen. This is exactly how people who were groomed think, that it was ok and normal although it wasn’t. Dude could’ve lasted 3-6 months without that I’m pretty sure as well?
idk if you´re a guy or not but if you masturbate normally you can´t go for that long without doing it
I can’t feel angry… I just feel completely sick. Like I want to physically want to vomit.
Also in what world would you see your child being upset after losing function in their arms and assume it was because he needed to get off? I feel like he was seriously struggling mentally and instead of getting him help, his parents took advantage of that to play out some twisted fantasy they had already imagined before they got the “opportunity” to act it out. It’s absolutely disgusting and I hope OP is doing better.
if it helps, this is almost certainly just a purposefully edgy internet legend.
"He's a redditor, he goes from 2 loads a day to zero"
He must not have been a mod, those are rookie numbers.
He must’ve been new around reddit. I got 30k karma and i nut 5 times a day.
PLEASE BAHAHA
mods are asexual and always angry
Strange how did he duck if mom if he was gay
Bruh!! XD
It feels like dude is still kind of in denial that it was abuse.
I came here to hear a story about someone getting their arms brutally broken in some disgusting way. And you just came out of my closet and hit me with a f****** bat.
Same. I got prepared for a meat grinder or train accident. Oh boy this was awful.
Like Big Smoke
Did he break your arms?
I shattered my arm over the summer and I went through the ER experience with no pain meds. That was better than hearing this story 🤣
Right? Haha
The innocent thought that this was just about broken arms is instantly broken.
Like the arms
Did the accident that fucked his arms up also give him brain damage? Because that’s the only way I can see someone being totally ok with this. There has to have been some other kind of abuse that occurred before this. I refuse to accept that everything was normal until mom offered him a handy.
I do feel like there must have been something(s) left out regarding before the accident. But who knows, over 7 billion people. Maybe she just used the opportunity, but didn't have the courage before. Who knows.
Wrong, if it's two consenting people there is no problem, as long as they don't try for a baby it doesn't harm anyone
Just because YOU don't agree with it or can't imagine doing it doesn't mean everyone else feels the same, there is no objective way of looking at life everyone is different and there is no right or wrong
Your way of thinking is ignorant and is no different to homophobic people view gays in that you are against two consenting adults being in a relationship based purely on your own bigotry
Coomer brain works in dysfunctional ways
@@williamfryer4528 You have zero idea of what you are talking about
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 By the argument, they're a MAP and deserve a lit pyre. In the town square. During a pogrom.
The most unbelievable thing of this video is that Raid: Shadow Legends has over 1 million players. I literally don't believe it.
You sir win the comment section XD
Maybe it got downloaded that many times, especially given all the ads, but I doubt that that truly reflects the active player count.
That's all the UA-camrs they partnered with who are forced to play that shit
I think I watched another video that they make you say crap like what you have to say, how long it is and how much footage to have. I wouldn't be shocked if they fudge the numbers to make it look more impressive. I don't know why you would play it from the footage I've seen it's not anything special for a mobile game. I know they say not to judge a book by the cover but with mobile games 90% of the time "what you see is what you get".
I can't belive its only been around for 2 years because it feels like its been annoying me with its constant advertising for what seems like a eternity.
As the mother of a teenage boy, hearing this makes me angry. The parents should be in jail.
yup
it's very likely that it's a good fake. don't sweat over it too much
@Colt Manidk man, it is reddit
@Colt Man I mean it's pretty anonymous, so it's possible
thank you!
still 👏
child 👏
abuse 👏
ALWAYS CHILD ABUSE!!
parents like you who understand this basic concept give me hope.
I’m a gymnastics coach and once, a student broke both her arms at the same time and she came up and held up her mangled arms and said “I think something is wrong with my arms”
Yeah champ I’d say so
Shock and adrenaline are great things!
Once nearly ripped my entire left knee apart while downhill mountain biking and smashing my kneecap between two rocks which had roughly the space half the width of my kneecap between them ... stood up, brushed the dirt away, took my bike and walked home 10km, getting into the shower, cleaning the OBVIOUS wound and then going to sleep ... went to the doctor the next day as it was 'starting to hurt a little bit' xD
EDIT: Tendons, ligaments and muscles were all still okay but kind of jumbled up inside the kneejoint, no obvious fractures either on xray, didn't get surgery and took about 6 to 8 weeks to be 'fine' again, only have some pain in my left knee from time to time and a scar that's pretty much the size of my knee cap on my knee, happened ~24 years ago
These types of stories remind me how messed up humanity is
ok
Indeed, humanity is pretty messed up...
God hates humanity and this is why
@@gamercatishere4759 no he does not
Bruh... yeah
5:12 "Nope. Biological."
**Whang dies a little inside**
His face does say "god I died a little inside saying and reading that" 😅😂😂
Well "Reddit Incapacitated Arms Story" doesn't roll off the tongue.
Not nearly to the degree his wang rolled off her tongue 😂🤮😂
@@jean-lucalexander4719 pfF nice up top
@Cat Egorical I don't know, what do you mean?
@Cat Egorical Eh, not everyone heard the story or was around for it. Others forgot parts since it's been 10 years. Curiosity and nostalgia are powerful things.
Doesn't roll off the tongue, unlike.. ...
Eugh, no, nevermind. Can't even do it 🤢
The fact his parents were even in the headspace to conceive of this plan let alone go through with it is chilling on it’s own.
I think the mother probably groomed him before that and the father consent it cause he saw it as a mean to satisfy her without breaking their marriage and still got jealous. If they think it wasnt wrong or traumatic, dont see why keep it as a secret? Like go off and shout how good for the family it was lol but they dont cause deep down they knooow it was ilegal, abusive and fucked up.
I'd imagine that would only make your mental health worse
I'm so flaccid now
Technically that was an act of pedophilia and incest, both federal crimes, the worst part is that the mom is not on jail and thats he is fine with it
@@ismathekingg6099 He’s probably been groomed into thinking it was okay ⚰️⚰️⚰️.
guys i think it was made up
@@ismathekingg6099 Crazy cause there’s another thread similar to this where some dude has sex with his dad and the response is totally different. Both equally messed up cases tho
i mean the verification thing seems airtight but i just can't believe this story... maybe i just don't want to lol
You didn’t warn us... that we wouldn’t ever learn how his arms got fucked up
You got me in the first half
He discovered loli
@@timmyturner5864 oh nooooo
I think it was a car accident
Isn't the logical choice for the parents to drill a hole in the wall large enough for a f....light, cement it in, then let him have at it?
"My parents drilled me a glory hole..."
I love that you're going for such a permanent solution haha! You could also clamp it to a table for easy removal.
or a hooker. literally anything but his mom would make sense
That's what I thinking. Surely they hump a pillow or something. Anything but doing it yourself!
Sara you fucking beast of a human
Are you telling me this guy didn't have a SINGLE HOMIE he could ask a favor from?
He was probably heterosexual
@@ivanprinsloo5333 if I had to choose, id pick the homie pass
I'm not a man, but between mom and a homie i figure you'd choose the latter? At least you can ghost the homie if it's awkward after . You gotta live with your mom for the foreseeable future
Or a nice sofa or something? After two weeks no nut probably anything would work. Even buying a prostitute's hand job would be better than offering his MOTHER 🤮
@@ivanprinsloo5333 it aint gay with the homies. Giving your homies a goodnight kiss on the lips is just good manners.
no.
Imagine this on a parenting group “So my son broke both of his arms and he’s been really grumpy! What can I do since the essential oils don’t seem to be cutting it?”
Nuke Facebook.
If the group was full of leftists, then they may actually support an idea like this.
@@Prosecute-fauci Conservatives are actually a lot more likely to be pedophiles, see the Catholic church, republican boomers in favor of child marriages, lib-rights advocating for the loweing of the age of consent, 4chan users who are addicted to drawn child pornography, etc. Disgusting!
@@emperortgp2424
1. the catholic church is left-wing these days.
2. never heard of repub boomers in favor of child-marriage
3. as a libertarian, that's only a jab constantly made at us and not an actual position.
4. what's worse, 4chan (a site that not even right wing since it's mostly just slightly edgier reddit now) drawing fictional children in gross position while not actually hurting children or twitter (which is much much bigger btw) actively having pedo (not lolicons like 4chan but actually pedophiles) communities and cp on their site?
I'm not going to say you don't know what you're talking about w/ the 2nd point, maybe I haven't heard it, but you don't have a clue for the rest.
@@cecilyerker "Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure." -Ellen Ripley, Aliens
That moment when you remember that two decades ago one of your kinda-friends broke both of his wrists when he we was 14, a month or two before his only sister left for college.
:0
Hold up I-
bro fr?
he said his arms weren't actually broken, so it was a coincidence. please do not remember your friend as the guy who fucked his mom, because it's not him.
😬
Imagine breaking both your arms and not being able to play Raid, Shadow Legends
I’d rather break my arms than play Raid Shadow Legends.
A blessing in disguise
I can name 13 reasons why I'd rather watch 13 reasons why than play raid shadow legends
I'd rather just be killed by my parents or a doctor at that point, any decent doctor would do it
As someone who never heard of this story, and doesn’t like bone stuff, I gotta say, incest was the last thing I anticipated to be disgusted about
Sigmund Freud is LOVING this god damn it
🤣🤣🤣 Dammit, you got to it first.
@@michaelbiscay9836 every day, the internet proves him right and his spirit grows a little stronger
HA
@@lauxo36 lets prepare the cornflakes
I'm scared if Whang himself says "Worse than I remember."
He drank 40 litres of beer a day for 8 weeks, his sodium washed off his cranium
Пришвицын Владимир must be how he got into that chubbyemu video
He was the poster obviously
@@NoNoseProduction hmmm 👀
That's because people are more put off by incest stories than they are with things involving violence/gore or gross things like puke or bug infestations etc, or things people are doing to themselves not involving another person. Like, he actually looked more comfortable when he was reading about the girl who put garbage and maggots in herself than he was reading this.
You know it’s bad when Whang finds it “worse than [he] remembers”
This guy got raped. There is no other explanation.
On one hand, I really don't want this to be true because there's no way you don't come out of that super fucked up BUT the idea someone would invent this convoluted story for kicks is also deeply unsettling
Idk the latter seems like a warm blanket in comparison to this awful sinking feeling I get from the former
No, not "on one hand", it's "on no hands".
No. The latter is the only possibility that allows me to sleep at night.
@@lordvlygar2963 "Look ma, no hands!"
Making up some bullshit on the internet isn't a big deal. It isn't some mastermind plan.
U can live through sexual frustration. This is straight up sexual abuse.
Therapy or Therapy books there are options
@satlypepsi still doesn't remove the trauma, although it probably helps
also where there’s a will there’s a way, he could’ve just rub it against something 💀. not blaming him, on the contrary, what im saying is they didn’t need to do that to say the least
Seriously if he was having such horrible reactions to not being able to beat off maybe that says something about addiction that he needs to break. Wild that the mother and father aren’t arrested
@@gotyouchip1179 Yah. That only makes the addiction worse, A spiral is disgust and shame, and it ruined not only real sexual experiences but your mind too, as that will be the ONLY thing you will think of.
Just to add a dimension on this: the father did say he was a bit jealous, however OP also mentioned that on the nights his mother would "help" him, the sex between his parents would be much more...vigorous. I think they were both into it to a point.
It sounded more to me like the father was kind of a weak man and his wife ran the show and he just kind of had to do what she wanted.
@@twizz420 I read through the whole ama and frankly, it sounded like his dad was into it. The fact that he was "jealous" instead of utterly repulsed means I think he was into it.
Basically, cuckoldry but worse
this story just gets worse and worse the more you look into it
that's disgusting. i just watched a documentary some weeks ago about a man who experienced the same situation as a child, except instead of going to reddit, he pressed charges against his father & stepmother, like a normal person.
Watching this after Chris Chan's arrest hits different.
Exactly
and now out on the streets. hi from a year later
Poor Barbara
Imagine having that huge brute and his vile scent on top of you everyday.
And the worst part? You have dementia, so you forget, getting to relive it over and over anew.
If Karma is real, Barbara probably burned down an orphanage to deserve this 😐
I imagine Greek Hero Oedipus would've still poked his own eyes out even if his arms were broken. Holy shit this is pain. I feel the same pain too Whang.
This is just a whole other level of absolutely disgusting, far surpassing the older video stories to an extent one would think impossible.
I was naïve to think it could never get worse than the Jar and blowflies.
I hate this story with every cell in my body.
When you just accept that it's surely made up and give in to the horny, it becomes just another "incest" porn scenario, this time in the form of an AMA.
@@MizantropMan *why are you saying something so controversial yet so brave*
@@MizantropMan Nah, can’t do that man. There are some sick fucks out there. Call me weak.
@@MizantropMan Well it’s difficult to chalk this up as a made up story when it was verified by the mods. They went through a good amount of research to prove that this story was true.
@@MizantropMan wasn't it confirmed by a mod though?
this is why you consult your homies first, Any bro is gonna be ready and willing to help you out if you ever break both your arms
The fact the article never got published does kind of make me doubt his story was ever real. That might just be wishful thinking but reddit mods are not infallible
I wouldn't be surprised if it it was in the early stages and the ethics boards went "what the fuck are you doing"
@@PosthumanHeresy is there an issue researching people’s experiences with incest? It’s not like you’re having them do it again.
@@TheOfficialBrother This is one of those things where logically there's no ethical issue with the study, but the optics are an ethical issue. It's like not continuing down the path of questioning opened by the Milgram Experiment. Only one possible result can be reached without causing a social meltdown, so rather than falsify the science or have that happen, it's shut down. The ethical issue here would more be that the study would be seen as pro-incest propaganda if it didn't rule firmly against incest, regardless of what the data shows or how well the study is done.
@@PosthumanHeresy word
@@PosthumanHeresy We also should consider the possibility that they paper simply didn’t make it past review for more grounded reasons, it might just not have been well done research. Ironically, the Milgram experiment is kinda an example of this, it’s since come out that there was significant manipulation of the experiment to reach a certain result.
This is what would have happened if Oedipus broke his arms and couldn't gauge his eyes out.
Oedipus didn’t know he married and boned his own mother, though.
@@astraldirectrix Yeah, I feel like a lot of people who make an Oedipus reference don't know that fact, but OP must have if he knows the gouging his eyes out part.
Oedipus didnt even know he married his mother goofy
I know Oedipus because of the word Oedipal
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
I was gonna pull the "Oedipus was deeply disturbed by the incest" thing, but you switched it up lmao.
“Any possibility you’re adopted?”
“Nope, biological”
I guess you could say he’s a ... _verified son_
he ain't no fortunate son, that's for sure.
@@PosthumanHeresy or winning son
@@PosthumanHeresy dang it you beat me to it
take this like and get the hell out of here
@@PosthumanHeresy it aint him
37 fucking seconds into the video and Im already questioning weather I should just plug off my interner conection forever, nice.
Exactly. I thought this was just about broken arms.
was 14 when the mom first started 'helping' him and they didn't stop even after his arms healed up all the way to collage age, like I don't know what 2 think :( the mom and maybe dad groomed and abused him and its sick
I just imagine it like one of the many cartoons where someone's friend gets hurt and even after they've healed up, they continue to pretend to be hurt so they can be lazy and taken care of. That was the vibe I got. Maybe he just wore whatever medical shit the entire time, paying doctors to tell his parents that for whatever reason, his fucked up little arms just wouldn't heal. Haha. I don't fucking know anymore.
@@ElysetheEevee you're blaming the victim? Really dude?
@@ElysetheEevee Yikes that sound like victim-blaming bud.
@@feliciamartin9771 did you unironically say “yikes”?
@@TedMan55 yep. They do that. They have yet to realize how cringy they are because they exist on Twitter where everyone are psychotic moralists
I'd like to imagine that the twist is that the research psychologist collecting the information for the paper just happened to be that first guy who wrote the really long replies. Upon completion, people become too uncomfortable reading through pages which were about 30% statistical analysis and 70% fanfic of how he wished the scenarios turned out, that unfortunately no one read through enough of it for it to ever be peer reviewed, hence never published.
You have a headcanon about a cursed Reddit story
The reason he never shared the article is probably because the writer couldn’t find an academic journal to publish the work.
If the writer/researcher actually works in the psychology field, they are mandated by law to report shit like this to the authorities.
Yep
Well yeah, but this stuff was years ago, are psychologists not allowed to do studies on murderers? As long as things have been handled, it should be possible to get a study done.
@@MrKarato Well, when you consider interviewing a murderer, that implies they’ve already been to court and convicted over the issue.
Also, nothing stopped the researcher from conducting his research. I’m pointing out that no academic publication would want something like this in their publications, because it would almost certainly cause the FBI to knock on their door.
@@MrKarato Well, the guy said the paper was on "positive incest experiences" or some nonsense like that.
So it'd be more like trying to publish a paper on "serial killers who were actually pretty good dudes."
Even if it's not actively taking place anymore?
dude should've just got a coconut
You're totally right about the "if the genders were reversed" thing, I couldn't see this flying and becoming a joke if that was the case.
All these years and that one South Park episode is still relevant.
Which episode?
@@bigpoop789 Kyle's brother and the teacher being in a relationship.,
@@bigpoop789 I think it's called Miss Teacher Bangs a Boy
@@bigpoop789the niceee episode
Talk about testing a mother’s love.
EDIT: Hell, this blew up!
I'm never going to think about that sentence the same way again
Hmm delicious
Their love goes by a different beat.
Love of what exactly is the question.
If I were the mom, I would put him up for adoption no question
OP's dad walks by asking, "Are you winning, son?"
You certainly won a hearty chuckle from me.
This man was groomed and repeatedly raped by his mother as a child. So far gone that he doesn't even see it as trauma. What a horribly tragic story
I don't know how he thought this wasn't traumatizing, it sure as hell traumatized me.
I literally had an ad for a church mission in the middle of this video, almost like the Internet was telling me I need Jesus. Luckily I know better than to listen to what the Internet tells me to do.
You do need jesus.
@@niga3 You need a beer.
@@Wolf_Fleuret probably
@@Wolf_Fleuret a Beersus u say
@@evanmedi6144
SUS
This is grooming, the slow escalation is grooming, the suggestion is grooming, the mother taking advantage of the situation was grooming. This is all literally grooming and abuse. I really hope that person’s parents belong in jail. I hope OP worked with a therapist for a lot longer than the research project because I guarantee there is unresolved trauma.
Or best case scenario, he made this all up so he could horrify people on the internet
@@jonnysac77 Considering the lengthy verification process done by the mods, that's unlikely.
@@sudonim7552 stop, let me believe this
@@sudonim7552 How much do you trust Reddit mods?
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Yea, just because a reddit mod told me this is totally legit I still wouldnt believe it because since when can reddit mods not lie
His face when he said "nope, biological" is gold. I was browsing his merch at about the same time and saw he actually has a sticker with the face 😂 incredible
Nothing wrong with giving someone a hand in these dark times.
This deserves more likes
@@Alex_Barbosa Does it actually
@@Alex_Barbosa I liked your comment cause I didn't know which comment you were talking about
@@briguy459 wise choice
Lame
Tacky
This story always seemed weird to me (for a few reasons, actually). A 14 year old boy would've gotten creative long before 2 weeks passed.
The parents come in and wonder why he as a large stuffed animal with a hole in the bottom of it.
Maybe his parents were related too so his mind may have not been that good putting 2 and 2 together.
The story is straight out of a doujin by Karma Tatsurou. It's probably fake.
@@FolstrimHori You mind elaborating?
we all had "that" stuffed animal growing up
I remember this story being so grossly accepted on Reddit for a long time. Where people would belittle people that were (rightfully) horrified and disgusted by the story, by saying they weren't accepting enough and taboos were just social constructs put in place by silly things like "religion." I'm glad Whang and others also find it just as disturbing now. But you also forgot to mention the fact that this person had a significant other that was fairly serious and they planned to eventually marry. Someone asked if he had told her and he said no. When asked if he would ever disclose that, he said no, never. But people thought that was pretty worrying considering if they have kids, that mother would potentially unknowingly be leaving her children to be babysat by grandma and grandpa who had absolutely no issues with abusing their own son sexually.
That particular taboo is there for a very good reason.
Inbreeding is very, very bad.
I hope his parents find prison, and he finds therapy, he's been so severely groomed.
Yep. People really thought they were on some Galaxy Brain shit, completely ignoring any psychological or emotional factors involved.
*_Burn Reddit_*
Omfg that last part is genuinely terrifying & I hadn't thought of that. Imagine that being your mother-in-law or grandparents to your child. 😭😭😭
11:28 I don't think the editor understood exactly what they were talking about there...
Raid is only 2? damn dawg, feels like these ads have been going on longer then that
@Aridium bro
@Aridium Bruh
@Aridium Bruv
@Aridium bruh
She said she was 18
I've never seen Whang as uncomfortable doing his video as I felt watching it.
It is so deeply depressing to me the reaction to this story just because it happened to a boy and not a girl.
That's patriarchy for you. Men are seen as unable to be abused by women. Like Whang said though, the culture has changed a lot these past ten years. Things are different now
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep lmao what
yeah "for you"
My guess would be that the lighthearted reaction has more to do with the son's willingness and enthusiasm, as well as his lack of regret up to the point of writing the post, that made people view him as less of a victim. It's not like he was pressured into it or felt conflicted, and also he was at an age where many people start having sex anyway (albeit with people their own age). I'm not saying it was right or that he truly did consent, but the average person, and especially Reddit bros, will not look at it the same way. As for patriarchy, yes that is a contributing factor for obvious reasons, but we also should acknowledge that women and most men generally do not care about men regardless of how vulnerable they appear to be, and I view that as being (in part) a distinctly separate issue from the patriarchal mindset.
@@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3 sex at 14? What??
And to think I was already embarrassed that my mom had to zip up my pants after I went to the bathroom and help me shower when I broke only one arm.
I never heard of this story before so when I read the title I thought it was going to be some extreme gore stuff, meaning that the incest part was like a suckerpunch.
Same, I expected it to be something weird like the foot taco guy.
Why didn't they just buy a fleshlight and tuck it between the mattress? They could have pulled it out and cleaned it when he wasn't there.
I'm not sure but were they as widely known of back then? Maybe roughly 20 years ago or so. Since it's a decade old story and the guy had gone to college and grown up since then.
@@PurpleLightning6was9 flesh lights may not have been a thing but they could have at least gotten a blow up doll or something.
That would've made too much sense.
They're just demented that's why
we can all think of a bazillion alternative ways to deal with such a problem, thats exactly what makes this story fucked up. rarely are stories of people making reasonable choices that get passed around, what would be the point? its its out-of-the-box (in this case the box being ethical decency) problem-solving (or in this case problem-making and serial problem-ignoring) that give it value.
Mommy Thanos: "FINE. I'LL DO IT MYSELF!"
yikes
I love this comment haha
No no no no
Mommy thanos doesn't sound right
@@cheeseman1773 "I used the family to destroy the family!"
Yes officer this comment right here
This was shared on our tv, I thought it was about cannibalism (thought this was the taco leg story) MY FAMILY WAS WATCHING 😭
its sad how male victims of rape and incest dont get the same treatment as female victims.
Men and women are different.
@@steven401ytx ...do you want to share something with us?
your statement is indeed correct but the way you put that comment really bugs me the fuck up.
@@steven401ytx yeah thats so fucking uncomfortable to read bro
It's very interesting that a simple fact, in the right context, can make people feel uncomfortable.
So many ideas that are being pushed (and accepted) these days, fly in the face of facts, reality and logic and this is a symptom of that, I think. It's interesting.
@@steven401ytx I mean there are a million differences between genders and then some, but sexual abuse is abuse on both sides, your statement sounds morally wrong and THAT causes unease within me.
My best mate broke both his arms falling from a horse when he was a teenager
His Mum has to pull back his Willy skin and help him shower and wipe for a pretty long time
Never heard of any other “help”
I felt his pain
Bet they were both extremely uncomfortable with it. Frankly if that happens to me, I would hire a nurse to bathe me while I'm in recovery. Don't need them for anything else, they can just pop in for a half hour every day.
I totally thought the gnarly part was going to be how the arms were broken. Man was I wrong
Yeah, I was expecting a guy with stairs for arms. Boy was I wrong.
I once broke both arms. Cannot wipe, cannot bathe, cannot eat normally, cannot anything.
My mother just told me to stop being a pussy and deal with the mess. She would not lift a finger to help me at all, let alone do this shit.
So how did you wipe? Get a homie to do it? Use your feet?
I just looked into the thread, and one of the WIERDEST replies from the Broken Arm Guy was in reply to someone asking how his fatherwas okay with this.
His response, was (and I quote): "He just was. They are both very open. I wasn't a threat. *He got off on it to talking about it with my mom.*"
BRUH.
This family has PROBLEMS (IMO).
It's not IMO if it's the right opinion
Not just your opinion, objective fact
This story is like falling up how the hell does it get worse
nice omega flowey PFP
"Yeah it was a positive experience!!!"
"I've been abused since I was minor and didn't had capacity to consent"
WTF...
Watch out, Willy's gonna come running to call you a bigot now.
the kid is brainwashed
Well it might have been positive for him? Everyone experiences things differently.
@@Alex_Barbosa I love when mommy
uses her hand 😈😈😈
5:12 something about Whang’s concerned eyes and that mustache really fit together
god, i was hoping youd both cover and never cover this one
I would unironically rather be neutered..
Idk about neutered, but id rather just suffer in agony till i heal than do that. It's crazy
I would just use my foot
help control the amputee population, spay and neuter your quadriplegics!
I used to consider being neutered, but I learned that it wouldn't affect sexual desire that much. Heck, in Rome, Eunuchs were often used for sexual activities.
Same
He was frustrated?! There’s a perfectly good gap between the couch cushions!
he was 14 that’s child abuse i thought at first maybe the son was 18 but jesus christ this is horrible
It would still be child abuse In a way even if he was 18. You know how parents say you will always be there baby. It's because there is still a power dynamic and age difference.
"But one thing that might not be immediately obvious..."
Ah, Whang. You underestimate your own viewers.
And I thought my mom was too involved in my life.
Aside from the horrible abusive aspects of this story, there are ways to get off without your hands.
Ahhh I remember some contraptions I tried to make back in the day lol
Yeah, it’s a mom
If you're flexible enough and if your peen is long enough you can use your feet. Double points if you're into that