EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW: FOCUS ST TURBO UPGRADES | Edge Autosport
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2020
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Have you ever wanted to upgrade the turbo in your Ford Focus ST? In today's video, Alan will walk you through some of the best options for doing just THAT!
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It’s amazing hearing people still talk about the focus and teaching others great vid guys!!!
Appreciate the focus ST content, keep it coming 🙏💯
Thank you for this, this video helped a lot in deciding the right Turbo for the ST
bro you have so much information on this car's upgrades I am looking into getting one as I now need a dad car but I wanted to see potentials in these thanks for the information
I appreciate you making this video. Extremely beneficial and helps me figure out what turbo to go with for my power goals. I plan on becoming one of your etune customers around the end of the year. Just gathering parts right now.
Man just gave us so much information for free what a G. This is the video I have been looking for. Someone that has seen where each part will max out at on the factory setup and at what HP number.
Great video. Can listen to this play in the background instead of pounding forums all day studying which turbo is better for what circumstances. Thank you.
Great Vídeo! 👏💯👍 BNR Turbo video please...
I think this is very clear and helps explain a lot of the turbo options for some of us.
Its nothing new to me since I've researched it, but its a great video.
Im FBO, E30 tune (JST) and I have always been wanting that 'extra' power without needing to invest a ton more into fueling and turbos. A hybrid using the factory housing K03 and internal waste gate is great without having to upgrade anything, just slap on the modified K03, have your tuner tweak it, and enjoy 40-70 more whp. Tbo, for a daily, I would be happy with that 'little extra; for about a grand, vs thousands to reach a 400-500hp number thats really pushing limits of the car all over...
I hear a lot of bad about the hybrids too...but i think it's mostly that its still limited and 'not worth the time' by those looking for a lot more power.
Great presentation on turbo applications. For myself, the GTX 2867 Gen 2, would be the right application for my needs. It would offer a perfect power band with upgrades for the future and most importantly, reliable horsepower for daily driving without failing smog testing in California.
man...i commented on this 1-2 years ago..and now im finally ready to pull the trigger on a bigger turbo! Since these videos, we have the BNR turbos, which i believe now are the go-to along with the GTX turbos. Im planning now to pull the trigger on a BNR67 kit with FBO/E30, get tuned, then play with a 380whp'ish set up for a bit and upgrade my HPFP and max out the turbo around 420-440whp when i decide on a clutch to go with. Pretty sure anything over 400 the stock clutch wont like track days very much XD
Alan/Edge's videos to this day are still the best for this platform and what to do..great info!
Lovey video N content. I bought an ST 8 years ago and still have it. The best daily Turbo for FoST is EFR 6258. Midrange monster that makes easily 350-400 whp
Can you guys do something similar to this for the fiesta ST? I just bought a 2019 and want to see some good upgrades and dynamic runs on one, and I trust your judgment based on your videos.
Bnr turbo review !!
ALAN! PLEASE notice this. Can you do the same video but for Fiesta ST's?
Can you make a video about what turbos to run if your wanting more than 500 hp and you have a built motor and xdi fuel pump and injectors and bigger in tank fuel pump and upgraded map sensor thank you .
I'm really impressed. You know your stuff. Super helpful information.
These guys are top notch man this that's top shelf business. Anything Alan saysi s right on the money man those guys are really educated as far as motivation engine. Because of him I just replaced my fuel pump in my St by myself and like 4 hours I've never done any kind of mechanical before but he made it possible for me to do it
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Awesome video!! I’d like to see a vid about the differences between WMI with a tune vs not being tuned for WMI. I don’t have access to ethanol so I’ll have to do a meth kit and I know there’s quite a few differences between slapping it on and running it vs getting tuned with it but I’m no expert!
I'm in the same boat fuel-wise, max 92 (E10) at the pump. So even with just FMIC & intake, my tune is already knock limited with stock turbo. If there's a WMI kit that integrates well with the ST, I'd be interested.
Make a video on EFR turbo PLEASE !
Can we get a video like this for the civic si 1.5t
What’s up man, I notice a lot of people go for the G25-660. But how do you feel about the G30-660 ? I was looking into that just didn’t know which one to choose from. Would like some feedback.
what about a video of upgraded turbo on the rs! I wpuld like to know more about ! since i own a rs and currently tuned by you!! great video btw👌👌
i've heard the 2.3 doesn't like to be modded very much. like anything over 400 causes issues. Don't quote me but i've seen that all over
@@Chill_Please thats my goal 400 hp or at least 390 hp thats enough power for my daily lol. thanks for the advise tho!
GTX 2867 for the win!
Great videos... you've never mentioned intercooler upgrades. Can you please let us know what hp limit we could expect from a stock turbo with upgraded intercooler set-up.
400+ you'll need a 5" core. If you want more performance out of a stock car. The first thing you should do is upgrade the intercooler. Next the rear motor mount.
Serious info dump here, thank you so much! 2018 ST, I'm going to be knock-limited with only 91 octane available at the pump.
Full Mountune intake w/ tune & LSD have added a lot to the car, both fun and practical. Long term, I'd like a 2.3 upgrade to the block & turbo to match, but I'm wondering what I can do for the next 100k mi to get a bit more top-end on pump gas.
i will be purchasing a turbo tune and aux fuel from you guys within the next few months. im still deciding a turbo and i would love for you to do a video on a 25 550 turbo because that sounds like the best option but i need more info.
We might do a video on that turbo one of these days but regardless, if the difference in budget is not in play for you when it comes to the G25, that is the best option. You just need to figure out what size turbine housing and what power limit you want between the 550 and the 660. If it's a street car, I recommend getting the smaller housing on either one as it will provide power in a more usable rpm range for the street.
what about engine enternals limit especially with gtx 2867r gen2
let's get the same video but for the Civic
Alan tuned my ST with the G25 660 to 486 WHP, he's the man.
Thinking of getting the G25-660... How is the spool up time? What External Wastegate setup are you running?
@@bacchusthompson5834 it spools like a 2867 and I'm using the 3p ewg kit with the tial wastegate.
i need a video with more info on this turbo!
What fuel set up was needed to hit 440 with the 2867? 4 port, XDIHpFp?
I’ve been seeing guys using the TurboBay hybrid with real good results. Mines a daily driver not expecting huge power. Is there a hybrid that you recommend? Been told waste gate upgrade is good do you have one you recommend as well? Thanks great videos wish my current tuner would do more informative videos.
Switch tuners lol
My car needs you.
Where are you guy's located?
Do u guys have an up and working shop ST rn? I was wondering because I have yet to see a turbo blanket video with the ST and wanted to know if that was something you guys have done any testing on or recommendations on?
Hey Ryan, unfortunately, we haven't done anything like that and don't have one ourselves. But we ceramic coated our entire exhaust system from the manifold elbow to downpipe. Heat control is definitely useful in a couple ways and if you're on the fence about it, I'd say go for it.
So if you do aux fuel is it best to upgrade hpfp along with it insta focus_rookie top mount precsion 62666 gen 2 turbo set up always looking too learn more an thinkin i needa upgrade hpfp? For my goal
I'd like to see some stuff on the new BNR. But on another note I was torn between the 25-550 and the 2867 for the longest. I ended up going with the 2867 and it's really solid.
They're both solid turbos. You couldn't make a bad decision in that case.
@@EdgeAutosport ya my goal is 400 wheel. I already have 4 port. But sadly there isn't any e85 around my area. So as soon as I get my truck up and going I'm going to get some 55 gallon drums then it's on
Interesting :D There's another way to go, which is hybrid turbo made of the standard unit. In my case together with RS intercooler, 3" decat DP, colder plugs, custom tuning and 98 RON fuel - 346 WHP and 394ft (535NM at 3200) torque. Very cost effective.
Alan. Can I run wmi on the 2867 and get benefits out of it? There is no E30 near. Thanks bud. 😊
Little curious about something. I run into my car on the accessport reading over 28 psi of boost i did buy the vehicle used, but the map sensor is stock ford part. but my car on a 91 oct tune reads 31 lbs of boost on a 2867r gen 2. is there a reason for this? been driving the car for about 5k miles, and it doesnt seem slow in any way. also when installing i made sure that the boost controller was hooked up correctly spent about 2 hours adjusting and making sure there's no problems there. but I've seen some people tell me its odd.
Great video! But my concern is that I don't know how much the stock internals can take, I only have a cai and a 3 inch straight pipe exhaust so I haven't push the car far. Once I go fbo and later on go big turbo will it be safe to run 380-400 whp on stock internals?
Well you are perfectly fine right now, but you should be considering a built motor if you are shooting for around 400hp or more.
If I were to get a 2867 on a 93 tune to about 350ish hp, what would that do in a zero to 60? I'm looking to get this setup from you guys early next year. Thanks
There is alot more to you 0-60 than turbo size. In fact in some cases depending on how backed off you tune is the lil k03 might even beat you on 0-60 on a good setup. Because of that fast lighting mountain of torque that comes on fast
I wanting to run 91 oct what turbo is best and easiest install ?
But what would you recommend for a hybrid K03? What kind of internals? Will an upgrade from K03 to K04/05 make any difference in torque and hp? Thank you!
Do you mean engine internals? A hybrid is still within the reasonable limits of what the stock engine can produce if it's healthy.
In a more recent video, you mentioned the GTX2860 as your turbo choice if you do not plan on ever upgrading the fuel system, correct? So between the Garrett PowerMax and the GTX2860, your recommendation would be to also upgrade the wastegate. I havent seen too many videos on the choices we have and how to install those. Do you have a link to one of your 'heres a wastegate upgrade' for the turbos listed above?
My goal is more power, without sacrificing the big torque. I like quick spool but want more top end. I also want to maintain the factory fuel system as I daily the car and only track it a few times a year, but drive spirited at least monthly. Im in southern Texas, so we have a fairly low elevation. My guess is with the 2860, i can squeeze a bit more out and see around 380whp max on the stock system, if I'm estimating that correctly. Would with those power goals in mind (380whp/400ftlbs), would there be a need for upgrading the wastegate or could i literally buy the turbo, swap it out, and have it tuned?
We haven't done a video on the wastegate upgrade ...yet. If you remain stock, the wastegate actuator can really help. If you step up to the GTX-series (excellent turbo) that internal wastegate is perfectly capable of handling near-400 horsepower, that would be the higher end of that turbine's capability, yes. Feel free to call our support if you need help deciding on parts, and here is the actuator on our store: edgeautosport.com/turbosmart-wastegate-actuator-ford-focus-st-2013-2018/
Will a g25-550 with AEM wmi 500cc get to to 425whp on an e30 blend?
Great vid!
So question - bought a used 7163 .85 non-WG to put on my 2.0l fusion. it's v-band in/out. Would I just need to get a custom mani made or does someone make an EWG mani out there? Was also wondering if one could just weld on a pipe/flange for an EWG on the full-race mani (which apparently also offer a v-band version?)
Hope it works out - did wish this video came out sooner though - maybe would have bought something else!
Since I don't know if they ever changed the Fusion from the first EcoBoost model with the same 2.0T as the Focus ST, I'm assuming this is the same type of "headifold" setup, right? If so, you would need to get something custom made to mate the head with that turbo that has an EWG port on it. I suppose you could take something that already exists like the Full Race and modify it but I'm not sure they sell that separately in the EFR vband style flange. I know this is backtracking a little bit, but your best bet is to get the IWG parts and housing with a T25 and buy the Full Race elbow and get a downpipe custom made.
As far as turbo choice, you made a solid one. We actually used to run that exact turbo with the T25 flange instead and same A/R and it was a beast. We made about 475whp with 2 port aux fuel and it spooled reasonably well on the stock engine. The IWG on those turbo flow plenty and can control boost just fine.
Let us know what other questions you have or if you need help sourcing these parts. We're happy to help.
Also, just FYI, I answered this comment when we had exactly 7,163 subscribers. 🤔🤔😉
men my stock turbo is down with full pedal 3500 rpm and code check Is p132b21 senal low from control A boost
What is your opinion about the atp gtx2860? Is it good enough to build a reliable moderate setup around 320-330hp?
Absolutely. And that turbo is great for that power and a little more if you ever wanted it.
So what’s the max HP with the stock block given all the fuel options? With stock internals.
There isn't a definitive number. But 400whp is usually upper limit while still maintaining some reliability.
Im going to get the 2867 and want around 380-400 whp on a stock motor. What fueling system would you recommend I get? This is the only thing that confuses me, do I just need an auxiliary fuel system? I run a 91 tune right now on a stock turbo full bolt on.
and how many horse power are u making?
At what point do you need a new clutch,tranny haha tranny, and or better engine components
Quick question focus st has the 2.0 Liter eco boost the Ford Fusion titanium has that same 2.0eco so it’d have the same turbo and injector size correct ?
Correct
Ford says that stock Turbo max psi is 21lbs(supplemental book), I get people arguing that it only pulls 16lbs. So the question is, is Ford wrong? Awesome Vlog, thx.
Ford isn't wrong. They're saying what they are targeting, not what the max range of the turbo is. You can go higher with tuning.
There is an overboost feature in the OE strategy that will allow a short overboost up to 21psi. With tuning, this can be overwritten and you can achieve much higher boost pressures.
Stock tune my 2018 I see some spikes above 16, but it always levels out. My 91 tune on stock turbo tops out at ~24psi, with upgraded FMIC.
What is spool?
bnr turbooooooo
Is it worth getting a g series turbo to operate it at the fuel system limit with potential for upgrading fueling and internals later if still undecided?
My ideal situation would be achieving a ls1 type torque curve on stock fuel. I understand that may not be possible but the drop off up top of ko3 is saddening
Yes, absolutely worth it. The turbo spools quickly and will barely be working at the stock fuel system limits of the ST. I would think mainly about the G25 series. I guess it depends what you want to make once motor is built and aux fuel is on. But both G25s are plenty capable of lots of power.
Well I’m pretty much sold on the g25-660 now
You should be.
What about adding the external waste gate to the Garrett turbo kit ??
Do you need built internals for this?
That's subjective. Yes and no.
Can I upgrade turbo without upgrade the high pressure fuel?
Sure you could, but you likely aren't going to see it's full potential.
So I made the mistake of going .86 on my diy turbo kit...is there any way to salvage my mistake. My peak boost is 4400 rpm?
If you're able to get a smaller turbine housing for whatever turbo you have, that's the solution.
I could really use an AGP BWS turbo right now💀💀💀 anyone??????
I have a 2015 Escape 2.0 Ecoboost AWD. Much better than a Focus ST. 😁
Different, surely... better? thats subjective, friend. Lol