STOCK FOCUS ST POWER GAINS (TUNING ONLY) | PROJECT HALF-SEND | Edge Autosport
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2021
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Today, Alan and JP join forces once more to bless us all with their knowledge on Focus ST's and tuning with the Cobb Accessport!
With ONLY TUNING, they were able to squeeze a LOT of juice out of the stock motor and turbo, increasing power and torque all along the curve!
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It won't get anymore subs bc they don't wrecklessly blow shit up or tune 1200 hp mustangs and hellcats just for views. And that's what i like about these guys. You learn alot from them.
@@richardlapoint1845 they will, it’s just gonna take a little while longer
Quality > quantity
@@_fast4lfa na these guys are a little more mellow and i don't think they're into that. Could be wrong though.
@@richardlapoint1845 lol alan is my tuner man I’m just hyping my peoples up 🙌💯
@@_fast4lfa i hear ya lol. Alan seems like a pretty good guy. We need to barrow him in florida 🤣🤣.
Love the content as always. Keep it coming.
Loving these. I’m not at this point but I still enjoy seeing how a tuning company would do it if they had the choice and maybe I’ll pick up some tips for what I missed on my car.
Love your channel and all the FoSt vids!..I'm a tech and I love geeking out to my own car haha
im so happy this exists now, iv been waiting for a st focused channel for awhile lol
Alan is da man! He’s got my FoSt running fine!
Your channel helps me so much with my st build thank you so much
Glad to hear it, thanks for tuning in!
Just subscribed guys!!! You guys are unique 🔥🏎
Amazing video can’t wait to see more progress. I kind of did it a little backwards put some bolt on parts an need a tune to unleash some gains. Is it not safe to drive without the tune?
Seriously thought you were going to actually show the screen a few times... *Baited breath!* hahaha.
Really great content in your channel! Thanks for all the info, and you can expect a new customer once things get settled with the Garrett drop-in Power Max.
Study up bro, I'll be counting on you to get this thing slick =D
Wow! Definitely need a Dyno tune. Stock internals full bolt on. Stock fuel system well that is until tomorrow. I’m installing an aero motive 340 L per hour in tank fuel pump. Very interested in the XDI high-pressure fuel pump. Think that would help some of the fuel issues. I’ve already had to replace the factory high-pressure fuel pump at 48,000 miles. It just rolled over 50,000 miles last week. That was the first week of May. I wish you were local here in Houston Texas area.
Awesome content
Just ordered my accessport from y'all for the new 14 focus, I'm excited
Nice! Thanks for shopping with us, It is a great investment, you'll love it!
Just got a good job so I can afford this now I’m getting a custom tune from you guys
Heck yea! I asked... you guys delivered! Loving the new content.
Hope you enjoyed it!
I’m gonna pick on up tomorrow. Gonna get tuned by you
Its snowy and cold out right now so my ST is in the garage. Watching these help hold me over, ha. Awesome video, looking forward to more.
I do have one request - possibly during or at the end, have you guys thought about weight reduction as a video topic?
We probably won’t do any real weight reduction on this car, but we can pop over to the drag car and show what we’ve done there at some point.
I was on the fence about a custom tune I’ve been running stage 1 off the shelf Cobb for over a year now, but this video sold me and I will be purchasing a custom map from you.
Definitely a good call! We're happy to get you a little more power and more safety
These guys are super friendly as well
Just bought my 16 ST last month. 42k untouched no mods. She is so clean like a old person had it. Tuxedo Black with snow flakes.
Got my 16 ST3 earlier this month with 39k completely unmolested! Love it so far
@@asceplius8601 Wjay color is it?
@@charliewilliams1474 Oxford white!
Nice! I just picked a good ol Tuxedo Black 2014 ST3 with 45k miles a few weeks ago! Just ordered an accessport and changed plugs to 6510 NGK. Oil catch can and pcv plate coming up next. These things are fun as hell
@@Nickdirt420 wish you the brst with it! Amd yes, i want to find one thats under 10 grand soo bad, looks like ill have to wait 5 years or so for the prices to drop enough i can buy one without having to take a loan out!!
Very nice video! I have a 2018 Focus ST, Mishimoto intercooler kit with hoses, turbosmart BOV, mishimoto CAI, Megan racing DP, ADD W1 Oil CC, stock exhaust with res/muffler delete & Cobb RMM.
I want to get a tune from you guys but in the meantime would it be safe to go Cobb OTS stage 1 or 2?
Thanks for the video when the time comes I would love to see it information on mixing for e30 using a fuel jug like you do in the videos to get an accurate mix
It will be coming up before too long.
Good info, I love my 2016 Focus ST. My only mods I have is a Roush CAI and the SCT 93 performance tune. I do always run 93 octane gas. It is a super fun daily driver. 😎
Just wait till you get to stage 3 on e30 😎 i just made a short acceleration video with it on my channel. She rips!!
Awesome video! Alan, I think it's time you give my 2018 ST2 one of your famous E tunes! I'd love to get in contact with you guys to talk about it a little more.
I was cruising listening to this video when it started beeping when you hooked up the ap I started looking for lights on the dash 😆 like oh shit what now
If keeping bone stock. Removing the shroud and shutters from the intercooler and opening the honeycomb grill lowers temps a lot!
Nice
Nice Mötorhead shirt!
You should do a ford pro cal tune , with intercooler and intake and exhaust..
Should I run 1 step or 2 step colder plugs with a aftermarket intercooler?
I just ordered a hybrid turbo for my 2016 ST and watching these videos is making me want to get Alan to tune it...
I’d be happy to get you taken care of!
Do you guys give the option to add crackles as a side tune like stratifiedtuning has?
Just picked up my 18 ST. 24k miles. Ford Certified!
I just got a 17 ST with 31K about a month ago. Also Ford certified. I'm enjoying it in it's stock form so far. I like this series of videos. These guys seem like straight shooters.
I enjoy these videos, keep them coming! But I do have a question... If these come 252hp crank, stock, how much drivetrain loss is there? 243 is pretty close to flywheel power.
There is about 10 to 15% lost to drivetrain and about 15 to 20% lost to elevation. The dyno corrects for elevation but not drivetrain. This car makes 220 to 230 whp stock on our dyno.
@@TMTMS3 Thanks for your reply.
15% DTL seems like ALOT for a manual car id expect 6-9%
Mine has had a remap and air filter it pushed 262bhp and 285 ft tq
Alan, one question. Standard the focus has 250bhp, you loaded the Cobb tune and the car has 230bhp ?. How is that possible?. I want to go also for a Cobb Accessport but when I pay for a tune that decreases the amount of BHP that’s not good. Stage 1 is normally around the 280bhp or isn’t that correct.
Besides compression test and proper maintenance (plugs, fluid, etc) what else should I check to make sure my engine is healthy enough for a tune? I'm sitting at about 110k miles.
Walnut blasting the valves to get them nice and clean is another good thing to do for a high mileage ST. But, after changing fluids and plugs and if compression checks out, you are likely good to go.
I’m stage 3 should I run 1 or 2 step colder plugs?
will this tune also work with a Ford Edge with the same engine?
Even stock change your plugs...you will notice a significant difference in your gap
One question. A lot of people say do not use the off the shelf tunes. Would it be unsafe to use a stage 1 or even the stage 2 tune on a 17 Focus ST with a k@n filter , muffler and res delete?
It should be okay with those mild mods. The OTS maps are simply conservative tunes and make some assumptions that apply to all engines. A professional, custom tune for YOUR engine is far superior. We offer e-tuning services over email that are pretty affordable, so please reach out if we can get you dialed in!
Be interesting to see yall do a gti build
Yeah no doubt!
This is what i need to do with my 16 FoST that ive only racked up 20k mi with since new. Idk how far ill take my car so id rather do it in increments instead of buying parts for god knows how long ill hold onto or may not even get the chance to install 😅
I’m currently running a tune from another company. Done intercooler and exhaust. Is water meth good add? Daily driver just want more power without going big turbo. Great videos
I want to do it just for cleaning valves. I'm not going to tune for it though. From my understanding if your tuned for it and you run out of juice at WOT it is catastrophic failure.
Was told to get a system that keeps track of the juice so it doesn’t hit if there is none. I’m just curious if it really has a performance value I don’t wanna spend the money on big turbo lol
Jason, there is definitely value in it but if you rely on it too heavily, like the other commenter suggests, it becomes a slippery slope. If you're using it just for some cooling and cleaning effect, it's a pretty safe bet. I think a lot of people take a cheaper route when it comes to methanol injection and it can get them in trouble. Get a nice kit that works well. AEM and Snow are a couple brands we sell, and people seem to have success with those.
@@EdgeAutosport are changing the charge pipes worthwhile? I just want to get little more power or performance I guess without breaking the bank. Thanks for responding awesome channel!
Hey, I have a completely stock 2016 Focus ST..I just got my Cobb Accessport...I have purchased but not installed, a cpe FMIC, mishimoto charge pipe kit, turbosmart kompact blow off valve, mbrp xp exhaust, mecan racing catless downpipe, and cold air cobb intake system.... Can I run just OTC stage 3 tune or get it pro tune? Thanks love your videos!!
Whered you get the money for all that. Here i am deciding between a cobb access port and a fmic
@@Great_Lakes_Discus buy one thing at a time over the course of 6 months and then save for a good tune. Once you install it all get it tuned straight away and you're golden
Can I tune it with my sct tuner for my mustang?
Did you put awd in ?
Anyway I can download this tune?? Beautiful numbers!!
They are all custom tailored tunes, so order yourself an e-tune here and we can get you set up! edgeautosport.com/edge-autosport-etune-ford-focus-st-2013-2018-focus-rs-2016-2018/
Do u have base tunes for Intercooler cars
Is'nt the focus ST comes with 250 hp ? I don't understand why you started at 220 someting ?
Are there pre downloaded “tunes” per say on the accessport that you can run on your car that are healthy and can help the torque/hp, or do you buy the accessport to buy a specific tune from a company?
A COBB Accessport is pre-loaded with OTS (Off-The-Shelf) for your car, and have a certain mods that are allowed within these "stages" so, yes! That said, these tunes are conservative, and make general assumptions, so it is always best to get a custom tune specific for your ride.
@@EdgeAutosport thank you that answers all my questions I appreciate your help! Love the vids I will definitely contact y’all for a tune!
Hey alan,
what is your opinion on the cobb stage 1 map as far as health on the engine? A lot of people in the ST community say its an engine killer but some have had good success on it.
I want to eventually tune with edge once I have more mods but for now enjoy the subtle changes with the stage 1 and engine response.
I'm personally staying away from them
@@collegestudent6071 yeah but why tho
Stage 1 should be a big deal
What Cobb access port did you use? I’m on their website and I’m having trouble finding something specifically for the Focus ST
edgeautosport.com/cobb-tuning-accessport-v3-ford-focus-st-2013-2018-fiesta-st-2014-2019/
this st is all wheel drive?
Maybe a stupid question but... When you switch maps with the cruise control butten. Can you still use the cruise control? Just asking, i don't own a focus st :( Greetz from Holland!
Yes, you can still use it!
Can you tell me the all the differences between tuning a st on the dyno with a Cobb accessport and without one? I just bought a 2013 ST with 60000ks on the clock and its completely stock and I want to get a tune but not a Cobb accessport and was thinking of just getting a dynotune done.
A tuning interface is REQUIRED to tune a car - We 100% recommend the AP, it's a great piece of tech for these cars!
@@EdgeAutosport so these AP's work with anything basically , right?- obd2 like if i buy this mazdaspeed3 or a early 00's 1.8t gti etc?
How are both axels spinning on the Dino if the st is fwd???
The dyno rollers are linked front to back if a RWD car is on the dyno the front wheels will spins as well.
How much do you charge for a custom tune for a 2013 focus st?
E-Tunes start at $225.
How do you rate these Denso plugs against the NGK Iridium IX plugs?
did you find a favourite after this post?
@@IndefiniteMark yes i stuck with the iridium
NGKs have weaker construction but same function.
I emailed you about our son focus st
is running cobbs stage tunes fine, i feel like ive heard people say to never run cobbs stage tunes
They are safe to run, but a custom tune for your vehicle will perform better, and be more safe, certainly. The OTS maps make a lot of generalizations, so definitely consider a proper tune!
@@EdgeAutosport once I get all my parts I plan on getting tuned from y’all.
Why are the rear wheels turning on the Dyno ? It’s a FWD car !
I’ve been bigger turbo for 2 years just started tuning aux fuel. I’ve been on the fence about using 2 step colder plugs. Over 400hp is it recommended 2 step colder plugs?
Yes, not a bad idea to go 2 step over 400whp.
I was always told 1 step colder plugs. Who all runs 2 step colder?
I think he miss spoke should be 1 step colder. Or could be because they plan a pretty big build
I like to run 2 step colder plugs for stock intercooler cars, 1 step colder for upgraded intercooler cars, then back to 2 step colder for bigger power setups over 400whp.
How do you reinstall the stock tune if you dont back up on the marring?
When you uninstall the AP it flashes cobb's saved factory tune back onto your car. This is perfectly fine, because ford uses the same calibration on every car. So, all stock ecu maps are the same for the Focus ST so there is no need to do the download of your car's map. The map that Cobb provides is identical. When you select uninstall it will put your ecu back to stock, so you can just skip the ecu download.
@@lyndajenkins1024 thanks, I didn't know that they came preloaded with the stock tune.
Hi
What’s your take on crackle and pop maps?
UGH ... sounds like the car is backfiring and running like shit.
@@orangejjay yep, my God it has to be seriously low iq to actually install that and run it!! No way in hell will i install that crap on my baby..
How to I get my car tuned by you!!!
edgeautosport.com/edge-autosport-etune-ford-focus-st-2013-2018-focus-rs-2016-2018/
Do you guys also crackle tune 2013 focus st?
Lol, why ... Just why..
@@BabyCharlotteschannel cause its a free world already have a crackle tune and its loud asf
Is there a fuse or something you can unplug so the injectors don't pump fuel?
There is, yes. You can pull a fuse, or the relay. You will want to relieve the pressure before working on fuel components
16:08 are they referring to California?
Yes
ecoboost baby
My buddy just picked up an Accessport for the ST he just got, he also has an intercooler he hasnt installed and a few other bolt ons that arent on the car yet, besides just an air filter. While helping him get the Accessport and MAP's loaded, I realized that the Stage 0 map is for 87 octane. Thats probably why your OAR was out of wack, more towards 0 instead of -1, since Im assuming you have 91 or 93 in the car. I put the 93 octane Stage 1 Cobb OTS tune on my buddy's AP just because of that, but he does have an air filter so I guess thats "stage 1"
Higher octane will cause OAR to go to -1 faster. But its likely setup to be more conservative so that people can safely run lower octane without issues.
Why is the max hp @ 17:29 so low compared to the official claims of 252hp? Is this because of the COBB stage 0 map? The torque is up by about 18 ft-lb from 270 official claims from Ford, so is that why? It seems pretty wild to lose about 30hp....I'm assuming it varies from car to car? I guess some manufacturers overestimate their numbers? Even @ 19:01 it's still only showing 238hp, 14hp below the stock figures Ford claims. Just curious.....doubt you'll see this since it's from ~2 years ago, but figured I'd drop a comment anyway lol.
Wheel horsepower vs crank horsepower. Cars are advertised with crank horsepower vs a dyno that will show you a good marker of what your car is actually making.
Is this awd?
Linked-axle dyno, mate not AWD
@@EdgeAutosport ok lol thats what i was thinking i was about to say i need that
Or is that just the way the Dino works
wait is this st awd
no, our dyno's axles are linked
@@EdgeAutosport I was so confused 👍🏼
I’m confused, these cars are ment to be 250bhp from factory. And you only getting 243 🤷♂️
Dyno numbers vary greatly depending on the day, barometric pressure, altitude, Mercury in retrograde, fuel quality, tire condition, etc
Just save money 💰 and get s3
just wish it was a little cheaper
We just had a 10% Off Sale on Accessports, I hope you jumped on that opportunity to save!
I'm pretty sure that's an RS
It is most definitely an ST. Our dyno has linked wheels if that's what throwing you off.
It looks really bad on YT that this channel doesn't have more subs than this...I guess they only promote clowns that don't educate people lol
We haven't destroyed any lambos yet so the algorithm hasn't noticed us
@EdgeAutosport hahaha
thanks for sharing info re mods for ppl like me who only need 300hp
Focus ST is one hell of car