I’m one of those crazies who converted my Interceptor into a scrambler. I changed the front and rear suspension, changed to 19” front and 17” rear, tubeless ADV tires, aluminum mudguards and a custom paint scheme. The biggest difference is I used the Italian hand made Zard scrambler pipes. They look and sound better but they scare off people who are afraid they will burn their leg. Wimps! 😂 My one hope is that you can turn off the rear ABS. That is really scary on a steep dirt downhill. Some fun when the brakes stop working. I’m sure the weight saving came from removing the center stand and half the exhaust. They have a winner!
Sounds like yours was a cool conversion. I am sure I read somewhere that you can turn off the rear ABS, but please don’t quote me on that. I bet those Zard pipes weren’t cheap 😳😂
Thanks for the ride our Ian. Yes i would agree you need to re test when the roads and weather are better. Then you can compare its riding capability etc. I do however thInk the OTR price will put people off, when you compare it to other bikes. Until the next time, Ride safe Mike, Sunny Wales.
I saw the bike at the NEC last year. Though I’m sure it’ll have a place in the market it’s not one I’d be rushing out to buy. Nothing wrong with the 650 engine just not so keen on the styling. Good review video Ian nevertheless. 👍
Yes, a lovely bike….did you see the bright green 752s ? I like that bike 😈😎😂. It’s a shame they haven’t got a demo of any of them, as I wouldn’t mind taking them out for a bimble too.
@ I did see the 752 however I was focussed on the green 500 trail. I to would need a test ride and have to way up the pros and cons v established brands Honda, Triumph etc. What do you think of the Benelli brand??
@markb3180 well, historically they were known for quality, but quirky, motorcycles. Now they are Chinese owned, I guess they are run of the mill, but seem to be of better quality than some. Let’s put it this way….if I had the money, that 752s would have been mine months ago 😉
Thanks Sean…..it’s yet another example of how Royal Enfield are proving they are a force to be reckoned with. I have noticed that Triumph have started to use some whacky colours on their twins….much to the disgust of some Triumph fans. 😂
Thanks James. The exhaust is a bit of an odd one, and will split opinion. The cat is located where the centre stand should be, get ride of that, and things would be better in my opinion.
A cracking ride Ian, it’s definitely an improvement on the old interceptor and I bet on dry roads you will have lots of fun with it, the only thing that I’m not too keen on is the dash, I’d prefer a analog one even if it’s the same as the one on the silver Guerrilla but that aside it’s a nice bike, all the best buddy 👍
I am with you on that Mike. I much prefer the analogue dash. I also prefer cable throttle to ride by wire. The Bear does have fun written all over it, but will it be as much fun as the Guerrilla 🤔 we will have to wait until we take it out on dry roads 😎
Another great ride out Ian, had a close look at one in Oxford when I picked up my Guerilla last Friday, it is very well finished and like you said looks better in the flesh than in the pictures another winner I think abit of retro and modern.
Why did they not centralize the clock? What’s that left skew good for? It would drive me nuts looking at it this way 😅 Is it possible to move it just a bit to the right so its centered?
Hi Ian, Royal Enfield are keeping you busy having to test ride all there new models, cracking looking bike the bear like all there bikes are. Cheers Baz
Nice ride out Ian. As you mentioned the road looks well greasy😢. You nailed it.😊 Lovely bike, it sounds superb. The colour scheme is lovely. I like the look of the blacked out engine with the alloy on the fins. Obviously the bike is not for me, at 5 foot 4, and 27 inch inside leg. But, think RE has nailed it for this one. Look forward to seeing this and the other models at the Scottish motorcycle show in March.😊 Great video, thanks.😊
Well done RE for bringing this one out. Their lead time seems incredibly short as they have released many variants of their 650 in what seems like a very short space of time. At least they have enabled luggage to be carried both sides unlike the Triumph which has the high pipes on one side. Tbh I prefer the grey.
Good evening Jonathan. I also like the fact that it doesn’t take long for RE to send bikes to dealers to get stock ready for prospective customers. I hadn’t really done any “homework” on the Bear (other than trying to dismiss the, “oh, it’s just a redressed Interceptor”), so didn’t know the other colours available. Since releasing this, I have looked at the colours, that yellow one has a Husky look about it, and the other options look pretty damn cool too. Well done RE 👍 There has been a lot of thought gone into the design, though it would have been nice to see a sump guard fitted as standard. I am looking forward to riding it in better weather 😎 Cheers
Nice one Ian. Really nice looking bike , though I think I would tubeless if possible. Any way I'll have to pop in this next week or so and see if they are giving anything away (not), at least to cheer up Carl.😁
😂 Carl needs cheering up …… nah, he’s a character 😂. Funnily enough, I am also in conversation with another chap in the comments who modified his Interceptor to a scrambler. He used a kit to make the wheels tubeless. How are you getting on with the Shotgun ?
@@ianhughesroyalenfield I didn't get the shotgun I ended up going for the 450 Himalayan. I'm getting on really good with it, Roger sorted me out with some hard panniers and I'm off on a tour down to the south and east of England in the summer.
Morning Ian, I went over to my local Enfield dealer yesterday to try it for size, it's a bit on the tall side for me personally, being a shortarse,I was on my tiptoes! 😆, but it's a lovely looking bike, the paint finish is great , and it definitely isn't just an Interceptor tarted up! Good review 👍 Cheers, Mel.😮
Hi Ian 👋. Great first impressions ride thank you. Love that colour. I think the offset clock gives room to mount a phone etc without obscuring the speedo? Regards, Mo 😊👍.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. There are a few nice touches on the Bear, just highlighting the quality of motorcycles RE are producing now. Another step up 😎
Great review. I decided against a Guerilla and went for a Bear in 249 colours. Delivered Monday and took it out for the first time today and did 70 miles, very impressed, love it.
@anuj.pratap.3 we have some really rough roads here, and the suspension worked very well. A huge upgrade when compared to the original 2019 Interceptor. Some reviewers need to exaggerate or create negatives, this makes them controversial, and brings in more revenue. Take them with a pinch of salt, always best to take one out yourself.
Thanks Gap. I actually preferred this over the Interceptor, but we will have to wait until I can “give it some” through the twisties, as that is where the Interceptor excelled for me.
Great review Ian I still like the 400 gorilla the price is slowly creeping up on the RE ranges but also is the quality so its looking better all round. Ride safe and keep well shiny side up.😊
To me, at these lower speeds, and on slippery roads, the Bear feels more grown up if that makes sense. I felt that although it could hustle through the twisties, if I was on the Guerrilla behind it, I could "have it" 🤣 Does that help ?
@ianhughesroyalenfield yes thanks. I have an Interceptor as well as the Guerrilla and find the Guerrilla very peppy and wants to go compared to the Interceptor. Thanks for the info.👍
I didn’t tell my wife but I think I spent more changing the bike than I did buying it! And now they offer almost everything I did as standard. I would still convert the wheels to tubeless. The ability to plug a tire instead of changing a tube is priceless.
Absolutely, and yes things can get out of hand once you start. You have a vision……..and have to go for it, regardless of cost 😂 I hope she doesn’t see this 😳😂. You do have a fair point about the tubeless tyres, shame it isn’t offered as an option like in the Himi 450.
Hello Ian ! I have a Hunter,enjoy it but, may be, I need a Guerilla on saturday and a Bear on sunday...I think my wife will disagree...😂 Royal Enfield on the top !
Thanks Richard. I don’t think it will be long until a rear rack would be available. Utilising the fixing points for the passenger grab rail, in the same way the Interceptor one is fitted, in fact (though obviously I haven’t measured it), an interceptor one could possibly fit, the only worry being clearing the rear light. In the meantime, I would think throw over panniers would be ok. I have just looked on eBay, there is a rack already on there for sale.
Hi Ian, yup saw this bike on Saturday (18th); Roger said you were coming down to have a look at her. Interesting looking machine, but not my personal cuppa. You might be interested to know (or not!), that I was there to pick up my new BSA. Would you believe this is the first new bike I’ve ever bought in over 50 years of being a biker! Still got the Classic 350 I bought from them so now 2 ‘British' marks of bikes in my shed! Happy days. Toodle pip, safe riding and roll on the warmer months by which time she should be nicely ‘run in’! Regards, Chris
Afternoon Chris. Congratulations on the purchase of your new BSA……and yes, roll on the better weather. These slippy roads are not for the faint hearted 🫣😂, especially riding a new bike…..not so bad for me, as it’s not mine, but no good for you 😢. I have had a few new bikes over the years, but rarely hung on to them for long, unlike the Enfield’s. They must be doing something right. 😊 All the best.
I've noticed the smaller displacement engine bikes are pretty solid. Whereas the bigger displacement bikes you have more problems. Up until about 900 cc the bikes are solid. I've got friends with 500s, 650s and smaller bikes and no problems, just kept up the maintenance. I think this bike should be perfect.
Not to mention the amount of speed enforcement camera’s (at least here in the uk), meaning it’s impossible to get the most out of larger capacity motorcycles. I remember when 650cc was considered to be a “big” bike, that’s no longer the case. Even 800cc is now considered to be a middleweight. 🤔😂 Cheers
Ahh well Jim, a bit of an unfair question. When I took the Guerrilla out for a demo, it was on one of the promo bikes which had already been run in, the tyres had done about 500 miles, and the roads weren’t slippery like on this ride on the Bear. I will wait until I have taken the Bear out again in better conditions, and with a few more miles on the clock. That said, I think the Guerrilla will win on outright fun through the twisties, as it is a fair bit lighter, and the water cooled 450 just begs to be ridden in hooligan mode. I also think the frame geometry will be better for naughtiness than on the Bear……..but watch this space for a full and frank comparison.🫣😂
Thanks Sean….I will reserve total judgment until I have re ridden the Bear in more favourable weather, but even then, it’s the playful character of the Guerrilla which I am sure will win out in the end. Cheers
Ahh, doh ! You are probably right 😂 and the lack of centre stand. My brain doesn’t function on two things at once, trying to concentrate and talk at the same time, often results in silliness 😂
I don't think you've mentioned it but the bike makes slightly more torque than the other 650s. 56Nm to their 52. But they kept the same HP to comply with the European A2 licence.
Looks a decent tool & tbh what the video shows, it handles really well, so far what I’ve seen I’m very impressed with! Just as well you’ve got a scrambler version from RE, as based upon the appalling state of those Roads, The local Council should be ashamed of them for sure!!
Cheshire East Council are “apparently” strapped for cash, but they can afford to waste money like you wouldn’t believe. Many of the main roads are lethal for us motorcyclists, not to mention the lanes. Appalling 🤬. The Bear is the ideal weapon 😂 Cheers
The speedometer is clear to read, but I don’t see the point of it being offset by an inch and a half (if that). I also prefer the analogue speedometer, but I think most people do like the TFT.
If l wanted a Bear (love the looks) then l'd buy an Interceptor & make it a better Bear for me & save money. New lnterceptors can be had for about £5k so right now the price difference in the UK is bonkers.
TBH I don't really get bikes like that. On one hand I totally dig the style on it, it's awesome looking bike, on the other hand, why give a bike 19" front wheel and pretend it can go offroad with 130mm front and 115 real suspension travel. I mean RE's own Guerilla street bike has more suspension travel...
@@ianhughesroyalenfield But the thing is, it is to my taste. Just make it actually capable offroad. I'm looking for something retro looking and able to go anywhere(withing reason). This bike will fall short on that second requirement...
Guy in America has done over 60k on his 2020 Interceptor & bike been regularly servicd by HIM who was a Aircraft Engineer.His YT site is 'Me & My Royal Enfield' & HE lives off his bike & converted it to belt drive.
Thanks RR. Ahh the Interceptor, the bike that in my opinion re-launched RE. Bringing the brand to people who previously wouldn’t touch an RE (like me) 😊
@deltabluesdavidraye HE said HE gained 5Nm of torque & fuel economy worse but didn't say anything about HP. RE Interceptor 47hp at the Crank at the wheels is roughly 42-43hp at the wheels. HE did cause living off bike & does huge miles & the roads are generally good in the US too.
I'm with you Ian off roading is not for me so it's how good a road bike it is. You really have to admire RE for the way it makes and markets it's bikes although, compared to the Interceptor the Bear does seem a bit more pricey than i would have thought.
I agree Ian. In 2020, when I bought my Interceptor it cost me £5300, brand new, otr. Ok, so I had a bit of a deal, but even still. Now the Bear is much more refined than the original Interceptor, but I think the prices are creeping into unknown territory for RE. Is the Bear worth almost £2k more than the Guerrilla……..I’m not convinced it is, though only a ride on dry roads would allow me to compare the two more evenly. The Bear definitely feels a quality motorcycle though. I will also be interested to take the new BSA Scrambler out, when it eventually get’s released. That would be a good match 😊 Cheers
@ianhughesroyalenfield You might have a long wait for the BSA it's supposed to be June but knowing BSA it's most likely July or even later. They just don't seem to be able to match RE do they when it comes to bringing a new bike onto the market.
@ianhalliwell8604 you are right….look how long they stretched the release of the Goldstar after it’s initial showing to the world. I am still convinced that is what killed initial sales. They really do need to learn from their mistakes. 🫣🙄
Agreed, I mentioned the same in reply to another comment 😂. Mind you, that cat where the centre stand should be will have added a bit too…..bloody Euro 5 🙄 Cheers
Don't you use a Pinlock in your Helmet Ian. Yes the Bear 🐻 has some new design & I reckon it is the best engineered RE 650 to date from what I've seen 👀 & read.
Yes I have a stick on pinlock, it’s my glasses that steam up in this weather. The Bear is, as you say, well engineered, and pure joy to ride. Whether it’s the best engineered though ? The Shotgun felt like that to me, but we will hold that thought until we can get out on the Bear on not so slippery roads. 🫣😉
Do you have a particular Royal Enfield in mind ? The early Interceptor was a bit harsh and crashy, but I haven’t had any issues with anything else, and I have test ridden a few. Admittedly, my Guerrilla suspension is a bit on the firm side, but it’s handling is superb, so no issues with that. My Classic 350’s suspension is also fine for the type of bike it is. I have been on some pretty awful roads on that, with no complaints.
@ the super meteor 650 suspension was terrible and hurt my back everytime I got on it. Switched to YSS suspension, safari seat, and risers etc:) I agree in smooth engine and handling just wish they would fix the comfort of the ride and add on some tech specifically cruise control for a cruiser
@Brettmotorcycles I did take the SM on a demo ride, but it was some time ago. That said, I don’t recall noticing the suspension as being bad, but my ride would have only been for about 40 minutes at the most. 🤔
@@deltabluesdavidraye Mine doesn't so clearly you're running on the wrong tyre pressure. It's a cruiser/scrambler. One of the reason I got it was the belt. They don't break, unlike my Buell Ulysses's. Haha!
I’m one of those crazies who converted my Interceptor into a scrambler. I changed the front and rear suspension, changed to 19” front and 17” rear, tubeless ADV tires, aluminum mudguards and a custom paint scheme. The biggest difference is I used the Italian hand made Zard scrambler pipes. They look and sound better but they scare off people who are afraid they will burn their leg. Wimps! 😂 My one hope is that you can turn off the rear ABS. That is really scary on a steep dirt downhill. Some fun when the brakes stop working. I’m sure the weight saving came from removing the center stand and half the exhaust. They have a winner!
Sounds like yours was a cool conversion. I am sure I read somewhere that you can turn off the rear ABS, but please don’t quote me on that. I bet those Zard pipes weren’t cheap 😳😂
Morning Ian, Your review is as always amazing. Happy riding mate. 🍻✌️
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it 😊
Thanks for the ride our Ian. Yes i would agree you need to re test when the roads and weather are better. Then you can compare its riding capability etc. I do however thInk the OTR price will put people off, when you compare it to other bikes. Until the next time, Ride safe Mike, Sunny Wales.
I agree Mike, £7k is pushing it, but it is a cracking, well screwed together motorcycle.
I saw the bike at the NEC last year. Though I’m sure it’ll have a place in the market it’s not one I’d be rushing out to buy. Nothing wrong with the 650 engine just not so keen on the styling.
Good review video Ian nevertheless. 👍
Thanks Ian , Enjoyed it.
Hopefully it won`t be too long until we see one on a Classic 650.😊
I am hoping RE will wait until the roads are better to release the Classic 🤞😂
Thanks Ian for a comprehensive review and what a great looking bike the Bear 650 is.
Thanks Mark.
@@ianhughesroyalenfield I called at Crewe Motorcycles on Monday to take a look at the Benelli 500 Trail. What a beautiful bike at a great price.
Yes, a lovely bike….did you see the bright green 752s ? I like that bike 😈😎😂. It’s a shame they haven’t got a demo of any of them, as I wouldn’t mind taking them out for a bimble too.
@ I did see the 752 however I was focussed on the green 500 trail. I to would need a test ride and have to way up the pros and cons v established brands Honda, Triumph etc. What do you think of the Benelli brand??
@markb3180 well, historically they were known for quality, but quirky, motorcycles. Now they are Chinese owned, I guess they are run of the mill, but seem to be of better quality than some. Let’s put it this way….if I had the money, that 752s would have been mine months ago 😉
Really enjoyed this one Ian. Nice you had the 249 as well!
Thanks Sean…..it’s yet another example of how Royal Enfield are proving they are a force to be reckoned with. I have noticed that Triumph have started to use some whacky colours on their twins….much to the disgust of some Triumph fans. 😂
Evening Ian 😊 another winner from Royal Enfield she looks really nice, just that exhaust that lets her down, but that's just me 😊
Thanks James. The exhaust is a bit of an odd one, and will split opinion. The cat is located where the centre stand should be, get ride of that, and things would be better in my opinion.
Great review of a cracking bike, thanks Ian. Looks like Enfield have smashed it again👍
Thanks Paul, yes definitely another good ‘un. Can’t wait to try it out on decent, dry roads 😎
Great to see it ! Can’t wait to see part 2 when you take it out in the spring and give it some beans 🫘 👍😎
Me too Mark 😈😈😂 you know me, like to get a wriggle on occasionally 😂
A cracking ride Ian, it’s definitely an improvement on the old interceptor and I bet on dry roads you will have lots of fun with it, the only thing that I’m not too keen on is the dash, I’d prefer a analog one even if it’s the same as the one on the silver Guerrilla but that aside it’s a nice bike, all the best buddy 👍
I am with you on that Mike. I much prefer the analogue dash. I also prefer cable throttle to ride by wire. The Bear does have fun written all over it, but will it be as much fun as the Guerrilla 🤔 we will have to wait until we take it out on dry roads 😎
Another great ride out Ian, had a close look at one in Oxford when I picked up my Guerilla last Friday, it is very well finished and like you said looks better in the flesh than in the pictures another winner I think abit of retro and modern.
Thanks Glynn. Yes,ma definite winner…….again 😊
Why did they not centralize the clock?
What’s that left skew good for?
It would drive me nuts looking at it this way 😅
Is it possible to move it just a bit to the right so its centered?
I agree, this trend of off set clock winds me up too 😂 don’t know if you could move it.
Hi Ian, Royal Enfield are keeping you busy having to test ride all there new models, cracking looking bike the bear like all there bikes are.
Cheers
Baz
Thanks Baz. I just wish they wouldn’t release them when the roads are slippery 🫣😂
Nice ride out Ian. As you mentioned the road looks well greasy😢. You nailed it.😊
Lovely bike, it sounds superb. The colour scheme is lovely. I like the look of the blacked out engine with the alloy on the fins.
Obviously the bike is not for me, at 5 foot 4, and 27 inch inside leg.
But, think RE has nailed it for this one.
Look forward to seeing this and the other models at the Scottish motorcycle show in March.😊
Great video, thanks.😊
Thanks Mark. No, definitely not one for the shorter rider.
Well done RE for bringing this one out. Their lead time seems incredibly short as they have released many variants of their 650 in what seems like a very short space of time. At least they have enabled luggage to be carried both sides unlike the Triumph which has the high pipes on one side. Tbh I prefer the grey.
Good evening Jonathan. I also like the fact that it doesn’t take long for RE to send bikes to dealers to get stock ready for prospective customers. I hadn’t really done any “homework” on the Bear (other than trying to dismiss the, “oh, it’s just a redressed Interceptor”), so didn’t know the other colours available. Since releasing this, I have looked at the colours, that yellow one has a Husky look about it, and the other options look pretty damn cool too. Well done RE 👍 There has been a lot of thought gone into the design, though it would have been nice to see a sump guard fitted as standard. I am looking forward to riding it in better weather 😎 Cheers
Nice one Ian. Really nice looking bike , though I think I would tubeless if possible. Any way I'll have to pop in this next week or so and see if they are giving anything away (not), at least to cheer up Carl.😁
😂 Carl needs cheering up …… nah, he’s a character 😂. Funnily enough, I am also in conversation with another chap in the comments who modified his Interceptor to a scrambler. He used a kit to make the wheels tubeless. How are you getting on with the Shotgun ?
@@ianhughesroyalenfield I didn't get the shotgun I ended up going for the 450 Himalayan. I'm getting on really good with it, Roger sorted me out with some hard panniers and I'm off on a tour down to the south and east of England in the summer.
@andyheath9743 oh wow, brilliant. Too many good RE’s to choose from nowadays 😂
Morning Ian, I went over to my local Enfield dealer yesterday to try it for size, it's a bit on the tall side for me personally, being a shortarse,I was on my tiptoes! 😆, but it's a lovely looking bike, the paint finish is great , and it definitely isn't just an Interceptor tarted up!
Good review 👍
Cheers, Mel.😮
Thanks Mel. It definitely feels quality 👍
Hi Ian 👋. Great first impressions ride thank you. Love that colour. I think the offset clock gives room to mount a phone etc without obscuring the speedo? Regards, Mo 😊👍.
You could be right Mo, but it’s only offset by about an inch and a half. Cheers
Love it in that colour👍
Yes, it is nice…..and definitely different for a “factory” colour scheme.
Like the chrome ring detail on that speedo pod, nice touch. Nice riders POV.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. There are a few nice touches on the Bear, just highlighting the quality of motorcycles RE are producing now. Another step up 😎
Great review. I decided against a Guerilla and went for a Bear in 249 colours. Delivered Monday and took it out for the first time today and did 70 miles, very impressed, love it.
Fantastic Mence…..that 650 motor is a belter. Coupled with top notch build, and you are in with a winner. Have fun 👍
Heard suspension is bad? What's your take?
@anuj.pratap.3 we have some really rough roads here, and the suspension worked very well. A huge upgrade when compared to the original 2019 Interceptor. Some reviewers need to exaggerate or create negatives, this makes them controversial, and brings in more revenue. Take them with a pinch of salt, always best to take one out yourself.
@ That’s great to hear. I was really disappointed when heard about suspension from few Indian UA-camrs. Thank you. Would love to own this bike.
@anuj.pratap.3 it’s really good. As I mentioned in the video, I will do another ride when the roads are better.
Love the bike just the way it is.
You did a good job! I like the Bear, but if I was buying a new bike, it would be the Interceptor.
Thanks Gap. I actually preferred this over the Interceptor, but we will have to wait until I can “give it some” through the twisties, as that is where the Interceptor excelled for me.
Great review Ian I still like the 400 gorilla the price is slowly creeping up on the RE ranges but also is the quality so its looking better all round.
Ride safe and keep well shiny side up.😊
Thanks Ste. I wouldn’t swap my Guerrilla for one, but would have one if I had the money.
Lovely bike! Hope you are well. Not long till Dragon Rally😅
Thanks Maurice, take care 😉😂
Hi Ian. How would you compare it to the Guerrilla which i also have.?
To me, at these lower speeds, and on slippery roads, the Bear feels more grown up if that makes sense. I felt that although it could hustle through the twisties, if I was on the Guerrilla behind it, I could "have it" 🤣 Does that help ?
@ianhughesroyalenfield yes thanks. I have an Interceptor as well as the Guerrilla and find the Guerrilla very peppy and wants to go compared to the Interceptor. Thanks for the info.👍
You are welcome, any other questions, anytime, just ask.
I didn’t tell my wife but I think I spent more changing the bike than I did buying it! And now they offer almost everything I did as standard. I would still convert the wheels to tubeless. The ability to plug a tire instead of changing a tube is priceless.
Absolutely, and yes things can get out of hand once you start. You have a vision……..and have to go for it, regardless of cost 😂 I hope she doesn’t see this 😳😂. You do have a fair point about the tubeless tyres, shame it isn’t offered as an option like in the Himi 450.
@ I used the Outex kit. It seems silly putting glue and tape into a wheel and hoping it holds air but it works!
@BlueRidgeRider I think I have heard of that. 👍
Hello Ian ! I have a Hunter,enjoy it but, may be, I need a Guerilla on saturday and a Bear on sunday...I think my wife will disagree...😂 Royal Enfield on the top !
😂😂😂 I think you are correct Jean, but I wouldn’t like to be in the room when you suggest that to your wife…….🫣😂
@ianhughesroyalenfield 😄✌️
Good video..Would it be easy to attach luggage to the back seat as there is no luggage carrier?
Thanks Richard. I don’t think it will be long until a rear rack would be available. Utilising the fixing points for the passenger grab rail, in the same way the Interceptor one is fitted, in fact (though obviously I haven’t measured it), an interceptor one could possibly fit, the only worry being clearing the rear light. In the meantime, I would think throw over panniers would be ok. I have just looked on eBay, there is a rack already on there for sale.
Hi Ian, yup saw this bike on Saturday (18th); Roger said you were coming down to have a look at her. Interesting looking machine, but not my personal cuppa.
You might be interested to know (or not!), that I was there to pick up my new BSA. Would you believe this is the first new bike I’ve ever bought in over 50 years of being a biker! Still got the Classic 350 I bought from them so now 2 ‘British' marks of bikes in my shed! Happy days.
Toodle pip, safe riding and roll on the warmer months by which time she should be nicely ‘run in’!
Regards,
Chris
Afternoon Chris. Congratulations on the purchase of your new BSA……and yes, roll on the better weather. These slippy roads are not for the faint hearted 🫣😂, especially riding a new bike…..not so bad for me, as it’s not mine, but no good for you 😢. I have had a few new bikes over the years, but rarely hung on to them for long, unlike the Enfield’s. They must be doing something right. 😊 All the best.
@@ianhughesroyalenfieldthanks Ian 😊
I've noticed the smaller displacement engine bikes are pretty solid. Whereas the bigger displacement bikes you have more problems. Up until about 900 cc the bikes are solid. I've got friends with 500s, 650s and smaller bikes and no problems, just kept up the maintenance. I think this bike should be perfect.
Not to mention the amount of speed enforcement camera’s (at least here in the uk), meaning it’s impossible to get the most out of larger capacity motorcycles. I remember when 650cc was considered to be a “big” bike, that’s no longer the case. Even 800cc is now considered to be a middleweight. 🤔😂 Cheers
Ok Ian , guerrilla , or bear , which is most fun , I’ve already an idea in my head , 🏍🏍👍👍
Ahh well Jim, a bit of an unfair question. When I took the Guerrilla out for a demo, it was on one of the promo bikes which had already been run in, the tyres had done about 500 miles, and the roads weren’t slippery like on this ride on the Bear. I will wait until I have taken the Bear out again in better conditions, and with a few more miles on the clock. That said, I think the Guerrilla will win on outright fun through the twisties, as it is a fair bit lighter, and the water cooled 450 just begs to be ridden in hooligan mode. I also think the frame geometry will be better for naughtiness than on the Bear……..but watch this space for a full and frank comparison.🫣😂
That’s what I suspected , but both stunning , but for now I’ll go with the guerrilla 🏍🏍👍👍
@jimhedley7459 absolutely, especially as it’s £2k cheaper.
I think Guerrilla 450 Ian! Like you I was hamstrung by bad weather but Guerrilla or even Himmy 450 would be by bike...
Thanks Sean….I will reserve total judgment until I have re ridden the Bear in more favourable weather, but even then, it’s the playful character of the Guerrilla which I am sure will win out in the end. Cheers
That 2 into 1 exhaust probably saved 3 or 4kg
Ahh, doh ! You are probably right 😂 and the lack of centre stand. My brain doesn’t function on two things at once, trying to concentrate and talk at the same time, often results in silliness 😂
I don't think you've mentioned it but the bike makes slightly more torque than the other 650s. 56Nm to their 52. But they kept the same HP to comply with the European A2 licence.
Thank you, no I hadn’t noticed that……hopefully stats like this will be put right next time we have a play on the Bear. Cheers
Looks a decent tool & tbh what the video shows, it handles really well, so far what I’ve seen I’m very impressed with!
Just as well you’ve got a scrambler version from RE, as based upon the appalling state of those Roads, The local Council should be ashamed of them for sure!!
Cheshire East Council are “apparently” strapped for cash, but they can afford to waste money like you wouldn’t believe. Many of the main roads are lethal for us motorcyclists, not to mention the lanes. Appalling 🤬. The Bear is the ideal weapon 😂 Cheers
@ I’ve seen better roads when I were in Beirut 🤣👍
@DITCH1296 😂
I thought fast eddy was the original motorhead guitarist 🤘🤣🤣
😂 you might well be right…..that’s two fast Eddie’s 😂
First I reckon.
🎉
Good video, nice bike ticks all the boxes, only that gauge is 🤮
The speedometer is clear to read, but I don’t see the point of it being offset by an inch and a half (if that). I also prefer the analogue speedometer, but I think most people do like the TFT.
Yes, I agree analogue speedometer is much nicer it would fit perfect on that bike
If l wanted a Bear (love the looks) then l'd buy an Interceptor & make it a better Bear for me & save money. New lnterceptors can be had for about £5k so right now the price difference in the UK is bonkers.
Wouldn’t take much to see off £2k plus in modifications. Though you will get the bike you want 👍
@ianhughesroyalenfield True, l thought about it when l saw a "scrambled" lnterceptor in Shipley Honda this week, looked better than the Bear to me.
Hi Ian I can see another swap coming 😂😂
😂 nope, happy with my lot Keith……..but if I won the lotto, well 🤔😂
Blacked out handlebars and high level exhaust think customisers will be all over it
I agree Timothy, black bars would be better, and I am sure aftermarket parts manufacturers will already have a high level exhaust in development.
TBH I don't really get bikes like that. On one hand I totally dig the style on it, it's awesome looking bike, on the other hand, why give a bike 19" front wheel and pretend it can go offroad with 130mm front and 115 real suspension travel. I mean RE's own Guerilla street bike has more suspension travel...
Fair enough, it wouldn’t do for us all have the same taste 👍
@@ianhughesroyalenfield But the thing is, it is to my taste. Just make it actually capable offroad. I'm looking for something retro looking and able to go anywhere(withing reason). This bike will fall short on that second requirement...
@fiucik1 agreed, it’s not really an off roader. Maybe a bit of mild stuff, gravel and the likes.
Guy in America has done over 60k on his 2020 Interceptor & bike been regularly servicd by HIM who was a Aircraft Engineer.His YT site is 'Me & My Royal Enfield' & HE lives off his bike & converted it to belt drive.
Thanks RR. Ahh the Interceptor, the bike that in my opinion re-launched RE. Bringing the brand to people who previously wouldn’t touch an RE (like me) 😊
Lost 2 h.p. by converting it to belt
@deltabluesdavidraye HE said HE gained 5Nm of torque & fuel economy worse but didn't say anything about HP.
RE Interceptor 47hp at the Crank at the wheels is roughly 42-43hp at the wheels.
HE did cause living off bike & does huge miles & the roads are generally good in the US too.
I'm with you Ian off roading is not for me so it's how good a road bike it is. You really have to admire RE for the way it makes and markets it's bikes although, compared to the Interceptor the Bear does seem a bit more pricey than i would have thought.
I agree Ian. In 2020, when I bought my Interceptor it cost me £5300, brand new, otr. Ok, so I had a bit of a deal, but even still. Now the Bear is much more refined than the original Interceptor, but I think the prices are creeping into unknown territory for RE. Is the Bear worth almost £2k more than the Guerrilla……..I’m not convinced it is, though only a ride on dry roads would allow me to compare the two more evenly. The Bear definitely feels a quality motorcycle though. I will also be interested to take the new BSA Scrambler out, when it eventually get’s released. That would be a good match 😊 Cheers
@ianhughesroyalenfield You might have a long wait for the BSA it's supposed to be June but knowing BSA it's most likely July or even later. They just don't seem to be able to match RE do they when it comes to bringing a new bike onto the market.
@ianhalliwell8604 you are right….look how long they stretched the release of the Goldstar after it’s initial showing to the world. I am still convinced that is what killed initial sales. They really do need to learn from their mistakes. 🫣🙄
The few kgs they’ve shaved will come from 1) dropping an exhaust and 2) getting rid of the centre stand.
Agreed, I mentioned the same in reply to another comment 😂. Mind you, that cat where the centre stand should be will have added a bit too…..bloody Euro 5 🙄 Cheers
Don't you use a Pinlock in your Helmet Ian.
Yes the Bear 🐻 has some new design & I reckon it is the best engineered RE 650 to date from what I've seen 👀 & read.
Fuzzy biker reviewed a Bear 🐻 with high Scrambler pipe.
Yes I have a stick on pinlock, it’s my glasses that steam up in this weather.
The Bear is, as you say, well engineered, and pure joy to ride. Whether it’s the best engineered though ? The Shotgun felt like that to me, but we will hold that thought until we can get out on the Bear on not so slippery roads. 🫣😉
I wish RE would address some of the issues including their terrible suspension while price is going up …
Do you have a particular Royal Enfield in mind ? The early Interceptor was a bit harsh and crashy, but I haven’t had any issues with anything else, and I have test ridden a few. Admittedly, my Guerrilla suspension is a bit on the firm side, but it’s handling is superb, so no issues with that. My Classic 350’s suspension is also fine for the type of bike it is. I have been on some pretty awful roads on that, with no complaints.
@ the super meteor 650 suspension was terrible and hurt my back everytime I got on it. Switched to YSS suspension, safari seat, and risers etc:) I agree in smooth engine and handling just wish they would fix the comfort of the ride and add on some tech specifically cruise control for a cruiser
@Brettmotorcycles I did take the SM on a demo ride, but it was some time ago. That said, I don’t recall noticing the suspension as being bad, but my ride would have only been for about 40 minutes at the most. 🤔
It'd just strange to see you driving on the wrong side of the road. Keep waiting for a head-on to happen.
😂😂 exactly the same when I watch you “lefties” (left hand side drivers) 😂😂
Poor man's Yamaha SCR950.
Quite possibly 👍
The scr 950 is a horrible bike it wobbles at highway speed and has a belt 😂😂😮on a scrambler
I have never ridden one.
@@deltabluesdavidraye Mine doesn't so clearly you're running on the wrong tyre pressure. It's a cruiser/scrambler. One of the reason I got it was the belt. They don't break, unlike my Buell Ulysses's. Haha!
@1990-t1j Hello belts are worthless on the gravel one rock and pop it goes and you are stuck.Besides your SCR has a torture device for a seat.