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  • Опубліковано 12 жов 2024
  • This is a clip taken from the series Divine Mercy with Fr. Michael Gaitley. Watch the full episode on Formed here: bit.ly/3vEgiaS
    Join Father Gaitley in this insightful exploration of divine mercy and the historical confrontation with Jansenism, a significant heresy in the Catholic Church. Delve into the profound teachings of Scripture and the Christian tradition as Father Gaitley sheds light on the transformative power of trust in God's mercy, even in the face of spiritual challenges. Through meaningful reflections on key moments in Jesus' ministry and the significance of the Eucharist, discover how embracing divine mercy can lead to spiritual renewal and reconciliation, offering hope and healing to those who seek it.
    Don't miss this opportunity to deepen your understanding of God's love and grace, and to confront the challenges posed by Jansenism, with Father Gaitley as your guide.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 72

  • @debbiewomack8952
    @debbiewomack8952 5 місяців тому +10

    Great to see/ hear Fr Michael Gaitley!

  • @Nelly12121
    @Nelly12121 5 місяців тому +2

    Very interesting! It’s good to be remembered that it’s the sinners not the righteous who are called by our Lord Jesus! Thank you! ❤

    • @Justyouraverageguy172
      @Justyouraverageguy172 5 місяців тому

      Yep it’s true Jesus came to call back and bring the sinners to Him and that would be me scum of the scum with a pornography and masturbation addiction for 15 years since the age of 12 recently repenting of it with a conversion last year on Divine Mercy Sunday from last year in 2023. I still sin in that area but not as often or everyday and week like I used to after for the first time as a Catholic picking up the Word and seeking the Scriptures, praying the Rosary, and seeking God for help and penance since I could not save myself and end the addiction as I tried serval times before. The Lord is working on me still to purify me.

  • @KnightGeneral
    @KnightGeneral 5 місяців тому +5

    Is Fr back now for good? If he is then this totally made my day

  • @manuelvargas467
    @manuelvargas467 5 місяців тому +1

    Jesus is mercy ✝️☦️🕊

  • @joolz5747
    @joolz5747 5 місяців тому +1

    This must be old, correct? Father Mike, last I heard was with his parents in California. Is he still? Or is this something from the past everybody misses him. And he had that wonderful farm up north. I hope everything’s OK and his family.

  • @DanielSmith-r-1982
    @DanielSmith-r-1982 Місяць тому

    I say this as a traditionalist- Many of the Catholic traditionalists are infected with the heresy of Jansenism. I mean this in the strict theological sense- not in terms of rigor, not in terms of issues pertaining to grace or leniency, but in regards to the fundamental notion of Jansenism itself- “The Church has gone soft and it’s up to us to restore her ancient perfection.” Haven’t you noticed that the Jansenists who opposed the sacred heart devotion and the flowering Marian devotions have a lot in common with the traditionalists who reject the divine mercy message and the recent approved Marian apparitions and won’t say SAINT John XXIII, SAINT Paul VI, SAINT John Paul II?
    Again- I am a traditionalist in that I attend the TLM and I think it is the context for understanding the new mass. I also take a strict old school approach to issues like original sin and the fate of unbaptized infants because of the magisterial teaching g of the Popes. True continuity doesn’t erase the past.
    BUT, I CANNOT say the Church is capable of giving harmful disciplines and devotions. Secondary objects of infallibility is a huge sticking point for many traditional Catholics. Frankly I don’t think many of them know it exists.

  • @michaeljoyce-q6s
    @michaeljoyce-q6s 5 місяців тому

    I ask God for forgiveness for all known and unknown sins.
    Sometimes we sin and do not know what we are doing.
    I have experienced the Realm of Darkness. It was a horrible experience, but an experience I thank God for it
    Most Christians and Catholics straddle the fence. For this reason alone, you should fear God.

    • @vivacristorey4363
      @vivacristorey4363 2 місяці тому

      The bible says that perfect love conquers all fear. With that in mind, how do we properly fear God when conquered by Him who is love itself? Fear of punishment or of losing reward is a starting point. But learning to not want to offend Him because of whom He is is the greatest fear of God that we can have. It is the fear of losing Him the fear of offending the one who can do no more to show how much He loves us. If we learn to fear sinning for those reasons, then that is truly working out ones salvation with fear and trembling.

  • @richardball5491
    @richardball5491 5 місяців тому +4

    Starts around the 6:00 mark.

  • @inseasonandoutofseason
    @inseasonandoutofseason 5 місяців тому

    this seemed to end abruptly, as if Fr. Gaitley was still talking, makes no sense why it would just end when he was just getting to Jansenist heresy

    • @AugustineInstitute
      @AugustineInstitute  5 місяців тому

      This is a clip taken from the series Divine Mercy with Fr. Michael Gaitley. If you are interested in learning more, we encourage you to watch the full episode on Formed here: bit.ly/3vEgiaS.

  • @matthewvanacore4452
    @matthewvanacore4452 5 місяців тому +1

    Is there more to this???

    • @superapex2128
      @superapex2128 5 місяців тому

      Yes, there is, THANK GOD: it's called EFFICACIOUS Grace!

    • @barbarachisolm145
      @barbarachisolm145 5 місяців тому

      We love you. And are So happy to see you, and really listen to you.

    • @AugustineInstitute
      @AugustineInstitute  5 місяців тому

      This is a clip taken from the series Divine Mercy with Fr. Michael Gaitley. If you are interested in learning more, we encourage you to watch the full episode on Formed here: bit.ly/3vEgiaS.

  • @d.o.7784
    @d.o.7784 5 місяців тому

    and yet the 17th century churches in France are the best and most impressive

    • @vivacristorey4363
      @vivacristorey4363 2 місяці тому

      Are you claiming that a condemned heresy inspired holy architecture?

  • @TheChurchofBreadandCheese
    @TheChurchofBreadandCheese 5 місяців тому +6

    Have no doubt, here in Ireland this is the heresy that destroyed the faith.

    • @Tybourne1991
      @Tybourne1991 5 місяців тому

      That's sad to hear. How did it happen, please?

    • @vivacristorey4363
      @vivacristorey4363 2 місяці тому

      Gratefully nothing can destroy the faith. May St Patrick rekindle the love of God in the Irish people.

  • @richardball5491
    @richardball5491 5 місяців тому +1

    If there's one thing Puritans do not advocate, it's penance.

  • @Bob.W.
    @Bob.W. 5 місяців тому +6

    Clickbait title? Over 3/4 done until first mention of Jansenism. ???

    • @AugustineInstitute
      @AugustineInstitute  5 місяців тому

      This is a clip taken from the series Divine Mercy with Fr. Michael Gaitley. If you are interested in learning more, we encourage you to watch the full episode on Formed here: bit.ly/3vEgiaS.

  • @sethabel4315
    @sethabel4315 5 місяців тому +1

    I need some advice. Is anyone here an ordained Catholic priest?

  • @superapex2128
    @superapex2128 5 місяців тому +3

    Your opening statement is correct: 'I have come not for the righteous but for sinners' - but you only consider half of it.
    The other half is 'TO REPENTANCE' - which means CHANGING OUR WAYS so that we SIN NO MORE, as Our Lord told the Adulteress...
    What you're pushing is not Catholicism but a form of Calvinism whereby only the elect few who believe in your 'salvation' through the acceptance of sin will be 'saved'.
    In reality, they will go to Hell if they listen to you: '(...)And the TRUTH shall set you FREE (from sin)'!
    God is Merciful but He is also JUST...
    We need God's help to do His will and lead saintly lives - and He does provide it, precisely in the form of the EFFICACIOUS Grace taught by saint Augustine, the Jansenists and all the Church fathers up to and including saint Bernard in response to the ever resurgent heresy of Pelagianism...
    What we need is to call out Naturalism wherever it lurks and tell the Truth about Grace - not accommodate sin by surrendering to it.
    Do you realize that there can be only one proof of having received the Holy Spirit?
    That's right, BEING HOLY.
    If you're struggling with sin and find yourself in need of God's Mercy all the time, that's proof RIGHT THERE that the Spirit who dwells in you is NOT the Holy Spirit and you should keep looking for answers...
    Shouldn't that be obvious?

    • @superapex2128
      @superapex2128 5 місяців тому

      @@heathera2874 Yes, but we need the REAL Faith - i.e., in EFFICACIOUS Grace: THAT is key.
      Until you believe Grace is EFFICACIOUS in and of itself, you will never be freed from sin - hence the never ending abuse of God's Mercy.

    • @superapex2128
      @superapex2128 5 місяців тому

      @@heathera2874 There is no true Repentance if you're unwilling to take the means necessary to avoid sin, which is belief in EFFICACIOUS Grace, the only Grace that truly Sanctifies - and ultimately Saves.

    • @superapex2128
      @superapex2128 5 місяців тому

      Conveniently, you left out Pentecost and the Gift of the Holy Spirit...
      Is it any wonder you find it so difficult to lead a saintly life and are constantly in need of God's Mercy?
      The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is precisely what makes Grace efficacious: "Charity has been poured forth into your hearts by the Gift of the Holy Ghost"!
      A partial 'Gospel' doesn't lead to Heaven: only the COMPLETE Truth is the Way - and the Life.

    • @superapex2128
      @superapex2128 5 місяців тому +1

      The only reason the 'Jansenists' were more rigorous than the Jesuits is that they believed in the possibility of being FREED from sin through EFFICACIOUS Grace - while the Jesuits did not.
      The Sacraments were widely distributed - but not to those who refused to change their lives according to their supposed Faith: if you truly believe that Grace is EFFICACIOUS, than your life should change drastically and you should be able to live in a habitual state of Grace...
      This much should be obvious.
      The true hypocrites were the Jesuits who bestowed the Sacraments indisciminantly - much like they do today...
      Unfortunately, you're lumping together 'Jansenism' and Calvinism but the two are very different: the former does not believe Grace to be irresistible while the latter does - and THEREIN lies the heresy.
      For the sake of your own soul and those who trust in you, please look into these matters more carefully...

    • @superapex2128
      @superapex2128 5 місяців тому

      @@heathera2874 Well, if we never teach the Truth about Grace, how will anyone receive it?
      What do you think a good Priest does?
      The Sacrament of Penance is actually a dress rehearsal for our Particular judgement...
      It IS the duty of the Priest to PRUDENTLY evaluate if the sinner is worthy or not of absolution.
      If you don't do that as a Priest in the Confessional, you're not acting 'In Persona Christi' who WILL judge us on Judgement day...
      Here on Earth, we still have time to change our lives and become saintly: when we die, we will no longer be able to...
      The time to change is now and with EFFICACIOUS Grace, it's not only possible: it's easy - '(...)For my Yoke is EASY and my Burden is LIGHT'!

  • @colinwithonel
    @colinwithonel 5 місяців тому

    I dont disagree with the video, but it does not make it very clear what Jansenism is exactly. Which is really the problem with anywhere you look about Jansenism, that it isnt very well defined as to what it is and isnt. Such as if we say it is about rejecting an approach of "rigorous morality", we can easily take that and say "whats so bad about observing concrete moral teaching?" or conversely "we do not need rules to follow Jesus." When in reality Jansenism is something that is not rooted in either idea, so much as in a country club type of mentality, among those who would divide the Church into groups of Catholic and Catholic Plus, and only one of these is of the real Catholics on the way of salvation who are predestined for heaven. In reality there is no Catholic Plus and we are all equally in danger of Hell and equally being saved, although we do still have to observe the commandments of God and the doctrine of the Church as our basic requirement of cooperation with grace. Just not that we also have to take up a habit of X Y and Z, even though X Y and Z are not bad practices in themselves.
    I realize I have also not given a clear definition of Jansenism here, but I think the Country Club analogy is sufficient to define the main problem, an us and them mentality within the Body, thinking of ourselves as being more Catholic than others who are in the same state of grace or at least trying to remain so.

    • @AugustineInstitute
      @AugustineInstitute  5 місяців тому +1

      This is a clip taken from the series Divine Mercy with Fr. Michael Gaitley. If you are interested in learning more, we encourage you to watch the full episode on Formed here: bit.ly/3vEgiaS.

    • @colinwithonel
      @colinwithonel 5 місяців тому

      @@AugustineInstitute ah, ok in that case its definitely spot on with the theme of divine mercy and how jansenism contradicts it

  • @Tybourne1991
    @Tybourne1991 5 місяців тому

    Could be more informative, beyond "Jansenism is bad"! What about Blaise Pascal? He was too great to simply write him off as a heretic.

    • @AugustineInstitute
      @AugustineInstitute  5 місяців тому +1

      This is a clip taken from the series Divine Mercy with Fr. Michael Gaitley. If you are interested in learning more, we encourage you to watch the full episode on Formed here: bit.ly/3vEgiaS.

  • @PhilipShawn
    @PhilipShawn 5 місяців тому

    Irish stopped it

  • @PhilipShawn
    @PhilipShawn 5 місяців тому

    Not Argentinians

  • @johnroesch2159
    @johnroesch2159 5 місяців тому +1

    Is not Jansenism in France a reaction to Calvinism which is a Protestant heresy!

    • @joaoviktortorresairava6978
      @joaoviktortorresairava6978 5 місяців тому +1

      More like a Catholic version of Calvinism than a reaction to it

    • @johnroesch2159
      @johnroesch2159 5 місяців тому

      @@joaoviktortorresairava6978 That would make it a reaction since it mimicks Calvinism.

    • @colinwithonel
      @colinwithonel 5 місяців тому

      its a bit more complex than that, Calvinism opened up questions of predestination, grace and free will. The Catholic development of camps around these questions was not a direct reaction to Calvinism. But the result of Calvinism and its double predestination was that only a few people were seen as being "one saved always saved," while many more were seen as hopelessly wicked. In Catholicism, one camp belonging to the idea that grace is everything and we simply sit back and let it happen, that we have no direct action in salvation whatsoever. Jansenism was more the other way, that grace saves us but the path is narrow, and in fact so narrow that many people will never make it, and if you want to make it you better really work at it, and if you cant quite cut it...well that is where you get people in confession 3 times a week and never receiving communion, and believing that they are just not cut out of the cloth that the saints are. So its not really the same as Calvinism but it also is kinda the same as Calvinism.

  • @solaura6218
    @solaura6218 5 місяців тому +1

    I see Mary Magdalen at Christ's right side in your Last Supper painting.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 5 місяців тому +4

      It's St. John. There were no women at the Last Supper.

    • @solaura6218
      @solaura6218 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@carolynkimberly4021
      Watch the vid before you blab. Look closely at 2:07. It is not any man.

    • @solaura6218
      @solaura6218 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@carolynkimberly4021
      Nope.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 5 місяців тому +3

      That's Caravaggio's painting of the Road to Emaus. It's not a painting of the Last Supper. That is a serving woman. Don't blab!

    • @solaura6218
      @solaura6218 5 місяців тому +1

      So the "serving woman" is sitting at the table on Christ's right. It looks like The Last Supper. So the name changes to suit the propaganda. So what. Look again at 2:08. There is no road there. It is the Last Supper.

  • @thisutuber
    @thisutuber 5 місяців тому +1

    1:55 _You are my friend if_
    _you do what i command_
    ...
    His commands are: be kind & caring

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 5 місяців тому +3

      You really think that He came to tell us to just be nice?

    • @pedrogutierrez1547
      @pedrogutierrez1547 5 місяців тому

      It’s Mickey Mouse sarcasm. Pay it no mind.

  • @carmendestefano1780
    @carmendestefano1780 5 місяців тому

    Sooo, the "and sin no more" elephant is still in the room, I see. Disgraceful. I am more and more moving far away from this "Divine Mercy" stuff. The "Augustine" institute? SMH

    • @carmendestefano1780
      @carmendestefano1780 5 місяців тому

      This REJECTION of Christ's "justice" needs to be attended to. You mention justice only in the context of the abuse and the sin of the Jansenists? Something is profoundly wrong here.

  • @reinhardfuchs5181
    @reinhardfuchs5181 5 місяців тому

    The catholic religion is far away from church fathers Intention. Mary never RESURRECTED and has nothing to say today. Paul casted out a demon from a woman in Ephesus even she was saying the trueth ...