I disagree with your utter aversion to analogies, since the Fathers used them. The whole point of analogies is that they dont represent reality perfectly, like maps of the globe or the 2D representation of a cube. When you use all the analogies together they point to the truth of the Trinity, just like all projections of the globe point to the truth about it. Just like using Mercator doesnt mean you believe Greenland is half the size of Africa using the analogies dont necessarily point towards heresy. All analogies by definition fall short, even more so an analogy of God. That doesnt mean analogies are intrinsically misleading, only that you need to be careful with them, to not fall into -the belief that antartica is larger than africa- a heresy.
Demonstrates that god apparently does not care how he is worshipped. I mean, all it would have taken to stop Martin Luther was one conversation with an angel. All it would have taken to stop the Mormons is one Angel showing up at the first sermon, telling evreyone that this guy is high and should not be listened to. Same with Islam. Muslims are worshipping the same god in a different way. God apparently does not care.
Recently started becoming a Christian after being an edgy athiest for much longer than I would like to admit. These videos have been super helpful with helping me understand the faith. Thank you so much!
Saint Nicholas of Myra (Άγιος Νικόλαος) was an Orthodox Bishop in Greek Anatalia before the islamic turks invaded and destroyed Anatolia 1000 years later, so he was not roman , he was not turkish, he was not protestant, he was Greek and Orthodox and we can see that in his writtings 🇬🇷 ☦
Confusion. That is the single word that describes the human condition. Have you read the bible? The biblical corpus of books that provide the core material for all of the theological theories and doctrines? The Isms? If you haven’t read it all, I suggest doing that before listening to or reading multiple isms / theological theories. That should clear your confusion.
@@JesusChrist-jh6jo excellent. Read with a clear mind if you can. Take the words directly without reference to others interpretations. See through a clear lens - if that is possible.
My anxiety when trying to figure out what the trinity is without committing heresy: 📈📈📈📈📈📈 Edit: Holy moly there's some conflict brewing in the comment section 😭
If we go outside Biblical sources. In Jewish mysticism God must be separated from creation because his absolute nature erase any existence (lake of sulphur may be in fact the God himself). Heaven is separated from the God by the barrier, in which there is eight cracks known as Ophanim (in Christianity called Seraphim) who transfer isolated aspects of God into creation, creating eight heavens/virtues. Plus additional barrier what separate truly godless space guarded by four Elemental Angels called Living Beasts (Cherubim), known as Leviathan, Behemot, Ziz and Bael. Who are under control of Angel of Destruction and King of Sheol Sandelphon (Abaddon). Seven heavens are in charge of Angelic princes called Archangels who represent seven virtues and seven Serpahin, who as overmind do not have own personalities and collectively represent God. It is why God in bible say "ours" calling himself. But one of Seraphims represent Sentience itself and as such it has personas, being both Archangel of Wisdom Raziel Helel (The Son) who directly control own domain, King of Angels and Voice of God Metatron (The Father) and mentioned Sandelphon (Holly Spirit of Creation). Those three persona of Sepahims are the Trinity and they are in fact the God.
@@brianhasiholanmangoloipard6059Perhaps a time for society to re'Calibri'te their thoughts and decisions? Mayhaps, a time for the pri'Verdana's to go 'Tahoma'? For a better 'Impact' on their 'Futura'? ...I'll see myself out
do you really wanna talk about it, or just force others to believe as you do? if you wanna talk about it, William Donahue here on youtube has some things to say
@@diogoribeiro3811the Greeks disproved that God cannot simultaneously be all good, all knowing, and all powerful, with simple maths. It’s called the Epicurus paradox.
@@Mesuxyxrxbskxkxyp And yet Greece is majority-Christian today (of their own volition by the way, Greek areas converted long before Christianity became associated with empire) /j If a god knows everything and has unlimited power, then they have knowledge of all evil and have the power to put an end to it. But if they do not end it, they are not completely benevolent. Yet, what is evil in the eyes of said god? What is evil? (genuine question)
@@hkskh70040 it’s not just evil. In simple terms, you can see natural disasters like earthquakes and tsunamis devastate innocent people, and kids born with horrid deformities and conditions. The epicuran paradox is an observation that if there is a God, even if it’s all powerful, good, and knowing, humanity must not be the purpose of his creation. We might be like an insect making a chrysalis for a life form worthy of God. I suspect we live in a godless world.
Honestly this is the stuff that put me off Christianity: there’s no simplicity “If you can’t explain it, you don’t understand it” made into a whole damn philosophy
Just out of curiosity, may I ask, what’s your idea of a simple Christianity? God isn’t simple, never was or is, he’s something we aren’t. Yet he has feelings like us. He felt suffering, like us. But I can definitely relate to the whole “Wtf” in trying to follow Christian beliefs.
Everything has depth. The gospel can be understood by anyone, but Theology is very deep. Not all Christians have a deep understanding of all Theology, which is okay, but it's important to understand core Christian doctrine so you don't go on believing an unbiblical heresy.
I'm not religious, but nothing in this world or universe concedes to fit our understanding. Nature as a whole has always just done its thing with or without us and left us with bits and pieces trying to make sense of any of it. But that doesn't have to dissuade you from learning new things anyway
Ok... There is one God the Father. Jesus is a god but he is not God. Jesus is the only begotten of the Father and the holy spirit is not a god he's a spirit. All three are seperate and distinct individuals but are apart of the Godhead. God, the individual we worship is our father who created us all. Jesus Christ his only begotten son is the mediator of his plan to get us imperfect mortal children back home to father. Through Jesus Christ and his example and sacrifice we are saved and will return home. The holy spirit speaks to us and helps us in are daily lives to navigate this evil world. Im starting to notice that "Christianity" isn't very christian and is completely wrong and full of heresy's of the actual gospel of Jesus Christ. This makes me sad for all the people who are deceived by Satan into not knowing this. 😢
I remember studying Gnosticism in high school. Like you said RZ, the lore is ridiculously complex and confusing to the point that it’s basically just a different religion that uses Christianity as the foundation. In Gnosticism the “God” of the Old Testament is not even God. He’s some demigod or some sort of lesser god. It’s worth studying to understand how pervasive this idea of “spiritual good, physical bad” is and how it has affected modern Christian sects. Interesting side note: The creators of the Matrix movies are Gnostics. The films are essentially Gnostic allegories. My literature teacher had my class watch the first movie at home and try to pick out where the Gnostic influence/message came into play.
@@aaronmontgomery2055No, because even with warhammer's absurdity and childish jokes, it's still better written than the abrahamic religion. More interesting to.... Blood for the blood god.
I think it’s important to recognise that even if your mind can’t fully grasp some of these concepts, it doesn’t reflect on your salvation. Blatantly denying them is one thing, but you can be uneducated and illiterate and still be saved by the grace of God without understanding these things fully. Be blessed! 😊
I mean, if you come to the conclusion that God is multiple gods, then yeah; You're not worshipping God. That's essentially what heresy boils down to. if you are creating a God in a different image than our God, then you aren't actually worshipping God, rather an idol. So yeah. @@magic_honey
@jackboehm8408 But if the biblical texts themselves can confuse genuine readers, how is that fair? Your God isn't very helpful, almost like he doesn't care if we're saved or not.
Suppose I go to a cemetery to pray at a saints grave but someone erroneously points me to the wrong grave and sincerely believing go pray there; will my prayers thus be inefficacious? I think *NOT*
Well, we come from a long line of snake farmers, but ta tell ya da truth, business has been real bad lately He literally referenced this video in the examples he gave, it’s so good
I tried explaining to one of my 40k friends that there is a god in the 40k universe but the characters don't know him. He thought I meant the Emperor. I told him, no, it's the author of the book.
@@mattk6719 The bible, and Jesus, and God exists in 40k. IIRC the bible itself is considered the most dangerous book in the galaxy among demons, and I think Trazyn has one.
To be fair, that's just how counterfeits work, and ur only gonna find counterfeits of the real thing. If 1 is true the rest are false, plain and simple.
When I was very little, my dad tried explaining the trinity to me, and how it was a complex and infinite subject, but I thought I figured it out and told him I had it solved it, and that god just switched back and forth between the three of them, basically modalism. He was veeerrry quick to explain that thats was NOT it 😂
Thanks for this. I'm beginning my own journey into faith now, after living most of my life more or less ignorant of it. I have so many questions, there's so much I can't comprehend about what's written, versus what's preached by different denominations. Thankfully I've found a link with a local church, and I'm going to meet with the rector soon to seek some guidance. All I want is to live a good, peaceful life. I'm praying this is my first step on that path.
Bruh the NIV translation might be for you. It’s what I use because it makes the language plain and easy to understand without being overlysimplified. Try it.
Great let’s glorify dismissing someone before even letting him speak. Wow you guys are definitely the true non heretic Christian, well done. You definitely read Isaiah 13:11 and Proverbs 16 and apply it everyday. Nice.
@@vatt3436Okay that’s true but he literally said one can’t make analogies between the Holy Trinity and any earthly thing because the trinity isn’t like anything in the world, so any analogy can effectively be dismissed
Just to specify: Heresy is a belief that deviates from the established/majority belief. It is in relation to something. A Christian heresy is a belief that is incompatible with the established beliefs of some other sect, NOT christianity itself. Calvinism's Predestination is a heretical to Catholicism whose addition of the filioque is heretical to the Eastern Orthdox. All three of which find Unitarians heretical. They all consider themselves Christians and justify their faith using basically the same Bible.
@박따농 More like Heresy to Catholicism (which most of these are) != Heresy to Christianity. Side note: How did you get the "not equal" sign? My phone doesn't have it, so I have to use the "not equal" we use in programming.
@mickeyspanish9709 If Jesus died for our sins to save us, then there are gonna be some beliefs that are so twisted that they won't unite you to Christ. I get that you probably don't believe in Christianity, but if that one thing is true, no amount of calling people heretics will make you a heretic, and some may be unsaved. Iconoclasm was condemned by Catholicism, but it's a very strange thing to call a heresy. But if you change the message (gospel) as Galatians 1:8 condemns, or change God as the entire Bible condemns, you obviously are united to the wrong Christ, right? Also in my phone I can just hold the equals button. On my computer, I might copy and paste.
@@WARLORDDOM I should have made this more clear but some of the heresies made more sense than the explanation of the trinity any thing you could recomend I watch that goes more in depth.
Im an athiest, but i do believe understanding other religions and practices is important for people to come together and understand one another, so thanks for the education
@@thereal4815this is funny considering most religious people are religious because of their lack of knowledge. Knowledge being facts or even reading the Bible. Not intelligence
As an atheist, I always find it amusing when I'm debating with a liberal Christian, and they end up spouting actual heresy trying to come up with a counter-argument. Like, if you can't even get your own theology right, why should I give you any legitimacy?
@@IDoThings490 What has God got to do with humans intellect?? The Bible says we can't fully comprehend God. If you think you can, then that's not God.
This is so incredibly entertaining, I just can't get over how many people can get so incredibly worked up over what amounts to no more than faerie tales laden with political subterfuge.
As i Catholic I've esperienced many arguments with protestants about Virgin Mary where they told me that she is't mother of God just his "human part" or whatever. Good to know this heresy has an actual name.
It's funny, there is a historical "Nestorian" Community of Christians that thrived across Asia and the East which the West identified as Nestorian, but doctrinally they didn't really ascribe to the heresy. Protestants are more Nestorian than the Nestorians.
@KyoReyes just go and read some books about history of Christianity; read the Patristics. Proofs are everywhere. None So Blind As Those Who Do Not See.
@@madmax3655 last I checked, Protestants believe in one God, the trinitarian God, that Jesus Christ died for our sins and was resurrected on the 3rd day, transcended to Heaven to come back with all his saints. The catholic credo is the evangelic credo, the difference is only in traditions, which aren't biblical and one might consider optional. Same with orthodoxy, who have a much stronger focus on tradition than even catholics, but fundamentally have the same credo. You can argue all day long how far the evangelic church has fallen into worldliness and apostasy, but in all fairness the catholic church has too, the protestants only seem to be always one step ahead of the catholics in that regard.
@@ryan.1990 If you had good evidence you wouldn't be saying "he owes me nothing" Instead you would be giving me on good piece of evidence that he exists. But you don't have any good evidence so you make up an excuse like this. OH, and he does owe me because a threat without evidence isn't really a threat. His message is quite clear. He sent Jesus to threaten all mankind. Either believe in him, love and obey him and if you don't he will torture you in the most possible way for eternity by throwing you into his torture pit called Hell. So yeah, you do owe me at minimum one good piece of evidence that he exists because god won't. Why would an all powerful, all knowing god who loves me not give me just one good piece of evidence he exists? This should not be a problem for him to do since he supposed to be able to do anything possible. Instead he has to rely on humans to spead his word, just like every other religion - none of these gods provide good evidence they exist. In other words you are just like every other religion with no good evidence for the existence of their god or gods. Same old story, faith, personal testimony(AKA personal experience and ancient books full of contradictions with stories proven by science to be false.
When you are saying 'that's heresy!!!!' with the sound effect, that sent chills down my spine. I am Muslim and I want to understand Christianity so as to have fruitful conversations with others. What concerns me is how little theology is taught in churches so many Christians (extrapoling my small sample size) are heretics. Youre doing a good job.
@@skipslash7367i pray that you actually stop suppressing the truth like Romans 1 says, and you repent. if you stay in your sin your going to hell. i urge you to repent. i could easily destroy your worldview in a debate but i’m guessing you probably don’t want to debate. i hope you come to Christ.🙏 you need him. your worldview is crushed without him.
@@Veltresworld suppressing the truth? suppressing what truth? that i should give up all my power and faith in myself and give myself up to some imaginary higher power? sorry, no, as i have a good relationship with my father, unlike you
@@skipslash7367 and this is why you love sin. John 8:44: "You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires." You need to repent immediately. you don’t believe in God? that’s a truth claim. where do you get truth outside of God??
@@Veltresworld I get truth from my observations. You get "truth" because some guy thousands of years ago wrote it in a book. That is not truth, that is foolishness.
3:48 Humans trying to understand the trinity is like a 2D person trying to make sense of a 3D object, there's a good analogy. edit: thanks for the likes but please stop arguing with each other in the comments, I'm not a bible expert or a scientist.
@@sponge6171because that is a good analogy, a 2d person knows a 3d world exists and is logical but unfathomable Hence why the trinity is logical but unfathomable
You should definitely make an episode addressing islams objections to Christianity (“corrupted scripture”, Jesus doesn’t claim to be God, contradictory ideas, etc.) I feel like it’d be great with your video structure
Also how literally every historian of the first century agrees that the fact that Jesus was crucified is absolutely certain. The Quran insists that He was not crucified
Bruh he doesn't need to the fact that "prophet" Muhammed is an apollinarianism version of Jesus is clear enough evidence that there's no theologically sound reason Islam can be right in any way
What you are looking for is Sam Shamounian, look up his vids on youtube. He explains the mistakes/lies in islam and judaism, dissects their anti christian arguments, explains the errors in translation of greek, hebrew, arabic words used in scripture or quran. There is also the yt channel called TheArchive, its a place where particular clips from Sams livestreams are stored.
@@michaeltagor4238 receiving revelation from god does not mean you have a divine mind. Muslims don't believe the prophet pbuh had any attributes of god at all.
@@calebklingerman7902 actually in Quranic lore it says that Jesus wasnt crucified but Yudas Iskarot was. It was made to appear that he was Jesus because god whilst literal Jesus was brought to the heavens which im pretty sure hes still alive to this day. (Didnt come to argue but simply stating an interesting perspective from a religion with completely different values)
That little "that's mooodalism pahtrick" tucked away at the top was hilarious! I heard the voice! Thanks for that. Need to go back and rewatch. Great video, by the way, very informative.
Can you make a video on cults to watch out for, especially on college campuses? Yesterday I was approached by two ladies asking me if I knew about "God the Mother" who apparently is a South Korean lady that Jesus prophesized about in Revelation? Thankfully I wasn't deceived but I worry someone with less biblical knowledge would have been, especially since their flyer for their Bible study said "Heavenly Family and Earthly Family" which sounds innocent to the average college student, especially if they were raised Christian but don't have solid Biblical or theological knowledge.
Generally just stay away from any cult/sect/denomination that aren't mainstream Christianity. There's reason they aren't mainstream, and it's not anything good.
I'd say watch out for any cult. Try following a well-known denomination, ideally a high church one that believes in real presence in the sacraments and that has tradition (ideally Roman Catholic imo)
@@justhair17 yeah, if you want the “true” teachings that the apostles taught then definitely join one of the apostolic churches. Either Eastern Orthodoxy or some rite of Catholicism, would be the ideal.
They're from a group called the World Mission Society Church of God. Strange group that purports to worship a Christ-like woman in South Korea. Check out the Wikipedia page for them it's weird stuff.
or for warhammer fantasy, heresy is saying that you saw a bipedal ratman using advanced weapons, as as we all know the skaven are but a myth. Update: the skaven were in fact not a myth and have tried to crash the moon into the planet.
Now let's make a video on the various conceptions about the natures of the four Chaos Gods and about Chaos itself (and the matter of the Horned Rat yes-yes) !
excited for this one!! lol I’m working on the first Spanish video translation of your channels most popular videos, it’s just gonna take me a while cause I’m a full time student and working part time job
Man, here in Latin America we need a lot channels like this one, because we got a lot of heretic videos full with Superstition and with no doctrine. This is the kind of UA-cam channel that we need here. Thanks to god (sorry for my bad english)
Months ago i prayed to God "If there's a faulty in me that i don't know of, please tell me so i can change" I thought He will tell me from a life experience. I never even thought that He will tell me directly that i believed in 2 heresy these past years through your PPT-like meme video lol. God bless your soul, m8
Yeah, this is why the trinity to me is needlessly complicated. Having read 3 versions of the bible the implication I got was simply Jesus was God's son and we worship God through Jesus as he is the vessel of our salvation. Much simpler than all this trinity nonsense.
@@cosmictraveler731amen to that brother. If God wanted us to believe Jesus was somehow also God... I would think he would explicitly say so. Rather we get Jesus saying things like "The Father dwells in me and I dwell within the Father" and "The Father tells me what to say, and I say it" and "My will is the will of the Father"
well the thing is, heresy isn't necessarily sinful. there's a huge difference between misunderstanding the trinity vs, just making up an example here, saying that God is infinitely evil. the former is a heresy, and the latter is also a heresy, but more importantly, it's extremely blasphemous.
@@cosmictraveler731 The Trinity is not complicated at all. I'll explain it in two sentences. There is one God: Jesus (the Son) is God, the Father is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And none of them are each other. Done. With a little faith in a transcendent being beyond total human comprehension, this doctrine is easy (and fun!) to accept.
@@beamshooter John 10:30-33 John 17:21-22 John 1:1-5 John 5:18 John 8:58 Actually maybe just read the whole Gospel of John again. Jesus explicitly claims to be God multiple times.
Ok so how do you explain these verses if there's One triune God? Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is One." John 10:30 "I and My Father are One." John 14:9b "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." God does not exist as three because as God's Son Jesus is God, and Jesus' Spirit is the Holy Spirit. All the positions of the Godhead are summed up through Jesus Christ. Trinitarians(80% of the Christian world)commit the partialist heresy by creating two more persons. Jews and Oneness Christians, like myself, know God is One God in One person. Look up the word Trinity in the Bible and you won't find it, but look up verses about Oneness and you will find there are over 200 verses that affirm the Oneness of God
@@clintparker oneness Christians love to take that verse out of context. Let me ask you something, you realize that the word used in the old testament for the Lord being one, is the same word used to describe a union? You heretics don't even realize it. Yall stick to pure english translations since if you read what it actually says, it contradicts you. Y'all barely have scripture to back you up
If it's only one person, how could the holy spirit come down as a dove and the father speak through the clouds, as well as Jesus be baptized at the same time? Explain that then, you're using arguments from silence, the "why is Trinity word not in bibel" like some monkey who can't do 2 and 2, thats like saying the word Bible isn't in the Bible.
@@metroplier8392 everything you've said is 100% heretical. I can only pray for those offended by the Truth that they come to know the Truth: that "the Lord is our God, the Lord is One."
@@metroplier8392 we have more Scripture to back our beliefs, which are not heretical, that Trinitarianism AKA a form of partialism does. Verses that affirm Trinitarianism: 0. Verses that affirm Oneness and deny the Trinity: over 200
im an atheist, so i understand if you dont like me, but i always find religion so interesting and love learning about other people's world views. Very cool video
TBH, I think this video is probably making more people irreligious. It only "makes sense" (ie - it completely does not) to people that are already faithful. To those that are wavering in their faith, it show how illogical the most fundamental tenets of Christianity are and might actually push them to abandon what little faith they had had. So, I guess score one for atheism? If you want actually useful explanations of Christianity that don't attempt to make sense (because it doesn't), check out Ready to Harvest. At least there, there's no attempt to rationalize the irrational. The presenter/content is almost completely Christian and is as about non-biased as could be.
As a Christian I'd rather be friends with a understanding Atheist than a dogmatic, hateful Christian. Wanting to understand others, imo, is a good way to show love to others and I respect those who do their best to show this kind of love wherever possible.
Honestly, I think I like you on the sole fact you’re not a dogmatic (fill in the blank) with your views. I myself respect and study other peoples views, because I find it fascinating and interesting to learn, even though I am still Christian. I see where you’re coming from
I genuinely like this explanation vid even though Im not a christian. As a buddhist, we do suffer the same problem that ppl interpret the scriptures to suit their beliefs and completely forget about reaching Nirvana
I'm Christian and I've been studying shintoisme for research purposes. Would you say that Buddhism in Japan had been watered down because of shinto? Or has it retained the essentials?
@@VirginMostPowerfullbuddhism has regional variants everywhere and (folk buddhism) and is infused and spliced moreso than watered down. actual plain buddhism isn't even a typical religion but rather a philosophical exercise.
@@VirginMostPowerfullShinto and buddhism are two separate religions. That is how far they are. The same as Hinduism and buddhism or Islam and Christianity.
@@dentelle2190 I see, and this is not an issue for the Dalai Lama or any Buddhist authority that the religion has many shapes based on local beliefs? The philosophical exercise you talked about I've heard some defend it but does this include reincarnation and the different planes of existence too or no?
No matter the religion, I've noticed only a very few adhere to the actualy doctrine set forth by the original material. That begs the question then, what one believes is the true doctrine has that then been changed over time and we simply don't know what we don't know.
@@UrfavigboThat is to assume you have perfectly understood the faith without a single misunderstanding about the Bible. I would say no human has done so.
@@therealmaskriz5716 Sure, but there's a plethora of scriptures that contradict the trinity as its advertised. "Aryanism", as we like to call it today, is well known to have been the defacto belief until somewhere in the ball park of 150ad to 200ad, long after the apostles died. It is well understood that NONE of the figures in the bible taught or believed in the trinity, and the trinity as understood today is a "sacred secret" which the biblically scholars discovered later on. Whether you choose to believe the trinity as advertised is up to you, but no there is no reason that considering the bible forces you to be a trinitarian as there are many Christian beliefs that don't. The term "Christian" was coined in the first century to denote a follower of Christ, not someone who believed he was God. You can carry the name Christian simply by following his ways, you do not have to believe he was God and that he requires worship.
Yeah, this is why the trinity to me is needlessly complicated. Having read 3 versions of the bible the implication I got was simply Jesus was God's son and we worship God through Jesus as he is the vessel of our salvation. Much simpler than all this trinity nonsense.
@@cosmictraveler731 why not worship the God that Jesus worshipped? Jesus didn´t say "pray to me" or pray through me", he said pray to the Father alone. follow religion OF Jesus, not religion ABOUT Jesus.
@@blacksnapper7684 yet in the following verse Jesus says he and disciples are one just like he is one with the Father. Are disciples gods too? John 17:3 Jesus says the ONLY TRUE GOD is the Father, and Jesus is someone who that Father sent. Jesus says on multiple occasions he is only doing the will of the Father. Jesus also says the geatest commandment is ”Hear O Israel! Your God is One!” Jesus also says Father is greater than he (Jesus). He also says ”I am going back to my Father and your Father, my God and your God”. Does God have a God? Not ONCE did Jesus say you should worship him, or that he is god. Yet multiple times he says Father is the greatest, Father is the Only True God, worship only the Father and so on. Again: follow religion OF Jesus, not religion ABOUT Jesus. Jesus didn’t preach christianity, and he wasn’t a christian.
Dude, according to this Video I am a Heretic on about 4 Levels because I try and follow what the bible says and not what I was taught growing up. I had loads of questions too, because what I was taught growing up never fully meshed with the Scriptures. There is another channel you may like that helped me figure it all out. It is called Kingdom in Context. He has also been called a heretic, but I don't think that matters. We are all trying to seek the truth. You can call me a Mary Poppins for all I care, as long as I am seeking and following truth. Good luck on your Journey my brother, may you find and build a relationship with the God that you already know exists.
With due respect, that’s a terrible thing to say. We should want to get Jesus right lest we end up like the Muslims Mormons or jehova’s witnesses! We as a flock must not go astray
With all due respect, that's a terrible thing to say. We should try to respect other people's beliefs even if they don't align with our religion! This way we won't create unnecessary religious conflict ;)@@toastydoge9934
I would note that he is a Calvinist. So there is a bias of his own within the theology he follows. I’d take his explanations with a grain of salt. His explanation of Pelagianism is a term Calvinists throw on non-Calvinists to metaphorically beat them into submission to Calvinism. I’d suggest reading more on what Pelagius _actually_ taught before using this video as a template for your dive into Christianity.
@klaustheViking is right, this video is excellent, but its explanation of Pelagianism is where it falls short. We aren't born guilty of Adam's sin, or God would judge us for Adam's sin on Judgement day, and we know God judges us for our own sin, not the sin of others. We aren't born sinful (as in guilty of sin). We are born with a fallen nature that is fatally inclined to sin (will sin given the opportunity.) This is why babies don't go to hell if they die, they aren't held responsible for sins they didn't commit. Also there is the age of acountability, but that requires some more biblical research/explanation than I can give in a UA-cam comment. Like I said though, great video apart from the Pelagianism explanation.
But babies do sin. Our fallen nature leads all of us to sin constantly in everything we do. Their sins are miniscule and trivial in comparison to what we do, of course, but if you believe that they have souls then you must believe that they have the guilt of sin, the same as we all do. So what happens to them? The answer is that nobody knows. My belief is that everyone who has not accepted Christ due to ignorance or incapacity is, at the moment of death, given a full and perfect knowledge of the Truth, and is given one final opportunity to believe in Jesus then.
3:40 USE ANALOGIES! Trinitarian analogies are 100% orthodox. The analogy of the sun, for example, is used by Saint John Damascene and by Tertullian. Frankly, Trinitarian analogies have been used throughout the entrie history of the Church. This popular notion that analogies are bad mainly comes from a stupid video from Lutheran Satire. Analogies should portray only certain aspects of the thing. That's the point. Analogies should not be identical representations. That's why Trinitarian analogies are useful IF we make the appropriate negations and distinctions; explaining where the analogy falls short of reality.
1. Tertullian isn't a church Father and became Montanist later in his life so if we could avoid it, let's not quote him. 2. Many people have fallen prey to using analogies only to have their teachings condemned. St Patrick of Ireland for example and his three leaf clover. You could easily fall into partialism. 3. Even when orthodox analogies are made, it is acknowledged that it falls short. I don't think using analogies is bad. But you could fall into heresies so easily.
I agree with this. We know that Jesus used parables, and related spiritual matters to the practical world to help the limited finite mind of man wrap his mind around his message.
@@vSwampFox Which heresy does the Protestant church commit? If it's something created by the Catholic church, does it have a scriptural basis? Legitimate questions - not trying to pry or be sarcastic. No church or denomination has the power to denounce something unless it is directly in contradiction with a scriptural commandment or obvious truth. Anything else is man-centered. The reason for sola scriptura is that, if you are starting at any other point than directly God's words which came from Him, it is going to be inherently flawed. 1 Cor 4:6 is a good text for this.
@@N1c2k3 Well it's probably important for you to figure out first, why you have the premise in your mind to say these phrases. I'm surely not one to be able to spend all kinds of time debating on the internet, but being as you asked, here's what I'd consider if I were in your position, asking the questions you are asking. Quote/ "No church or denomination has the power to denounce something unless it is directly in contradiction with a scriptural commandment or obvious truth". "Anything else is man-centered." " The reason for sola scriptura is that, if you are starting at any other point than directly God's words which came from Him, it is going to be inherently flawed." /end Quote That alone is quite the list of things already preconceived in your mind. Especially considering, scripture contradicts what you're saying. -God gave the Apostles the authority to bind and loose. What did they Bind & Loose? A lot of things. Both before Christ's death, and after. Not all of which are written in what you call the Bible. -"Obvious Truth", is a completely subjective statement. -There is no holy scripture, instructing the apostles, nor the disciples, to collect, and decipher books being written by themselves, and then declare which of these hundreds of books are or are not worthy for divine teaching. The only scripture that even attempts to covers such a task, is the authority given to them, by Jesus, to Bind & Loose. -Sola Scriptura is a man made belief philosophy taught by very late Christian sects. Ancient Christendom, never mentions this ideology. Ever. Plus, Paul himself contradicts this belief system, when he instructs his listeners of the things they are to do, that are not written, but are heard and passed down through tradition. Not to mention, there was no bible during the time of their teaching and preaching. Hope this helps you on your journey. I'm certain it's plenty food for thought. PS- If you are really interested in deep history, regarding Christianity, NewAdvent \.org is an incredible resource for historical writings. Cheers
He forgot the worst heresy of them all - six centuries ago the church sent 5 consecutive crusades (around 100 000 soldiers each) against the worst enemy of christianity - a group of bohemian peasants who committed the worst heresy of them all - they believed paying indulgences (money to the church) for removal of sins is immoral. They dared to question the most profitable income of the church. Fun fact - all 5 of the crusader armies were beaten by those peasants, the last one ran away without a fight. Those peasants were the first to use guns as a main weapon in the army, ended the era of the "knight in the shining armor".
Based on the info on Liberalism that can also fit those who fly the American flag around their churches and preach more about Republican politics than about Christ and theology. Interesting! Great post!!! ❤
Absolutely. Republicans and democrats are basically identical on a spiritual level, politics is depraved. Unless your politics are promoting the Social Kingship of Christ, they belong outside of God's house.
“Before Him all the nations are as nought, as nothing and void He counts them” Isaiah 40:17, that includes the United States. Idolatry and blasphemy is all that’s behind the hood of nationalism
Yes that is valid. Tying nationality to religion corrupts both. One must live in the world, but to worship a government of man is not the intent of the gospel ministry. Divorcing the endeavor from the dictates of man's governments is one of the things that brought forth the executions and suffering. This is not to say that your relationship with God is to be completely ignored when functioning in community, commerce or governance. The enlightened morality can impose heavy consideration on your choices at voting....but you can't vote your way to salvation. C S Lewis often said, my nation is not my church....which is ironic of an Anglican to say when the national elected government appoints the Archbishop and places them in the PMs Cabinet.
Being a Sikh person this is one of my favourite channels about abrahamic religions since it helps me expand my knowledge about other forms of worships and also understand things in more perspective. (Also helps that I can nerd out infront of my friends at times, i know not a very good hobby) Edit: guys stop fighting. It's fine if something is far right or far left, we should focus more on what's the current content of the video, and the comment (in this case my comment) more.
@@BurnBird1 i understand, and honestly at the end of the day I am just here to learn about stuff, religious politics is a very messy and complex issue which a smart person should avoid unless necessary. So there's that.
@@rishabhsingh357 That's fine, I just wanted to make sure that you kept that in mind. If you are interested in some more scholarly sources, I would heavily recommend "Religion for Breakfast" and "Let's Talk Religion" They do cover much more than just Christianity, but they have some excellent videos on early and different branches of Christianity.
Galileo was threatened with physical harm, which is by definition torture. The only reason he wasn’t physically tortured was because of his old age and ill health.
Torture- the action or practice of inflicting severe pain or suffering on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something Threat- a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done He was threatened, with torture most likely, not tortured. Saying and doing aren’t the same.
Should also be noted that the Catholic Church were not against Galileo's or Copernicus' ideas until they started losing membership over them, not talked about a lot.
@@clawso9014 For a Zoomer it is, where the smallest implication of anything they dislike seems to drive them into an extreme state of suffering, until somebody validates them. Ergo threatening torture is just as bad as torture. For the Zoomer brain, anyways.
@@Palatine-Knight This is what you get when a whole generation of kids don't get spankings because their parents traded millennias-old wisdom for crackpot hippy psychology rhetoric about corporal punishment being somehow damaging to children's egos. Damn right it keeps their egos in check...that's the whole point. Otherwise you get a generation of spoiled, egocentric narcissists.
@@steffen5121 that's not true. The church makes you think you're dumber than to be able to understand god. When the bible says "your god is not the author of confusion" Modern Christianity is peganism disguised as monotheism
Damn you really called me out! Just realized I have indeed pretty much been living like a Gnostic. The idea that God cares for and truly values this broken physical world is insane to me but the more I think about it the more I realize it's true. I think this is maybe your most important video for Christians because it highlights the little inconsistencies we may have been having about what we actually believe that isn't biblical. God bless you brother
Except this physical world is not "broken". It is God's great & wonderful Creation. It is not fallen. True Gnosis is Knowledge. Christianity is Superstition. For someone denigrating Gnosticism it's funny how Christians incorporated much of Pseudo-Gnosticism in their hatred of God's glorious Creation as being somehow Corrupted. Bible was Written by Men, Compiled by Men, interpreted by Men. Every step of that was a Political one with what written, what complied, what interpretations of the text to be taken all taken as Political decisions.
in what way is the world "broken"? what would an "unbroken" world look like? a world without problems? if so it seem that there is nothing of value to do in such a world because nothing can be improved.
There's nothing wrong with gnosticism - even the crudely oversimplified version of it summarized in this video. It was one of the first versions of Christianity to show up in the Apostolic period. Why dismiss it? Just because NIcean Christianity bullied its way to the front in the 4th century, thanks to the political power of Constantinople? As far as we know, some of the apostles could have been gnostic.
I have been an evangelical Christian for a long time, and studied church history for over 25 years. I think this is an excellent explanatory video, and except for my comments, I think you are correct in every detail. Because I think this video is "almost perfect", I wanted to make four suggestions, and the first is trivial. 1) First the religion is spelled "Sikhism" not Sikihism". 2) When someone, such as a Muslim first becomes a Christian, they might not have all of their doctrine correct on the Trinity, at least not until they watch this video ;-). It is not that they rejected orthodox doctrine, rather they have not learned it yet. I have also heard from ex-Mormon Christians that when Mormons become Christian it often takes them about a year to "get everything sorted out correctly." Before that time, they are still genuine Christians, it is just that they are "in process" in arriving at a Biblical, consistent doctrine. 3) It is not quite correct that Jehovah's Witnesses are a modern-day form of Arianism. I used to teach that too, a Jehovah Witness elder corrected me on that. Unlike Arians, Jehovah's Witnesses are not warlike or violent, like Arians, and they have a whole Watchtower structure built up, think Jesus is the Archangel Michael, that the Holy Spirit is just God's active force, and they have very weird views of the end-times. (my words, not his.) It might be more precise to say that Jehovah's Witness theology is a heresy that has similarities to Arianism in their view of God. 4) There is a little more to a "subordinationist" viewthan you show. When a group claims that Jesus is a lesser nature, glory, or honor, this is a heresy such as JW's or Arians, Mormons, and the old Worldwide Church of God. However, some like Tertullian and others affirm the Trinity but saying that the three differ in role and rank, with the Son being sent by the Father, and the Fahter/Son sending the Holy Spirit. Others, like Ambrose of Milan and Augustine of Hippo denied any difference in rank. So that is one slight difference between Trinitarians, and both views are Christian. Thanks again for a good video that I will recommend to others. Steve morrison www.biblequery.org
Aren't we all followers of Liberalism to some degree? I haven't met any hardcore christian that follows everything from, for example, Deuteronomy to the letter. We don't consider women on their period unclean etc.
No, because it discusses very clearly in the Bible that the ritual elements of the old law are not binding on Christians. Without exaggeration it is one of the big themes of Paul's collected epistles and a good chunk of the Acts of the Apostles. I don't know how people miss this
As a Muslim I'm glad that I found this channel, it's difficult to find people who like to look at theology as more than just "if you don't believe what I believe the way I believed it then you're a sinner and you deserve hellfire" it's very refreshing to see such intellect applied to religion, thank you for your work my friend.
despite your gracious comment,you are walking in deception and WILL end up in hell unless you come to faith in Jesus Christ as your savior.Muslims are NOT saved.You can recieve this as an attack but it is a warning and a declaration of Gods truth
@@kirklyles1705 Thank you for your concern but I've been around the block theologically and I'm fairly certain with my decision, I love you for who you are, do I believe that you are not worshipping the almighty as he is meant to be worshipped? Of course. Do I believe that you'll most likely see hellfire on the day of judgement? Of course. The difference between our beliefs is just that; I can recognize that these are my beliefs and that the only entity of decision, truth, forgiveness and judgment is the one true creator, the almighty, the most merciful, the most gracious, alhamdulillah. I appreciate your concern but these types of comments and statements are exactly what sent me away from Christianity. I'm fully aware of what the Bible says and what the church has to offer, but I've found the only thing that i can genuinely say is the continuation of true monotheism; the only theology that is the true continuation of Abraham's (AS) teachings and faith. I understand your concern, yet it is unnecessary; I know on the day of judgement my heart will be weighed and tested, I ask the almighty to have mercy on us all, Allahu Akbar 🛐
Your comment made me smile. I think one thing that any god - Allah or God or any other that someone believes in, are proud when we can live and exist in harmony side by side even with our differences. I believe that war is not what God wants us to do, and sometimes words can sound like someone declaring war on you. I am used to Muslim comments on my profiles telling me that I will suffer, likewise you have here a Christian who comes on quite strong and aggressive underneath your comment. I would just like to say thank you for making me smile, and remember that no matter what religion someone believes in, they can be a good person. I hope you have a blessed life. 😊
Part of the problem with trying to define “heresy” is that, sometimes, different people use different words to describe something and some people tend to be quite sure anyone is heretical who doesn’t use the exact same words to describe it. Several times when I was young, my dad advised me, “Read for yourself, study for yourself and think for yourself.” It didn’t take me long to realize that anyone who does that will, sooner or later, be declared heretical. So I save people the trouble of calling me heretical. I call myself that. I would like to help create an evangelistic association to provide financial support for laity who are trying to encourage people to trust the creator. I don’t want the association to require lay evangelists to affirm a list of doctrines (aka a creed) but this video has been helpful because it has provided me with ideas about how to describe some of the things lay evangelists would not be allowed to teach while they are receiving financial support from the association.
@@nicetryfbi438 No i'm talking about the origins of conservative ideology, depending on what your opinion of the origin (France or America) then it was either built off a Tyrannical environment or one with slavery EDIT : i also forgot to mention that conservatism is directly incompatible with christianity, due to the generally "me first" regressive core of the ideology conflicting with the more communal and worker focused teachings of jesus
Very nice vid! Started watching your vids recently and I really like the topics you talk about. I didn't know that explaining the trinity in terms of analogies was a heresy! It's done by a lot of Sunday school teachers here in our coptic churches, will be sure to spread the word, thank you.
Jesus was killed for heresy. The heretic they tied to the wood of the stake signifies jesus tied to the wood of the cross. The extreme pain the heretic suffered signifies the extreme pain Jesus suffered. The mortification of the flesh of jesus signifies the morification of the flesh of the heretic. The Pharisees signify the priests. The kings and rulers who oversee the execution signify pontius pilate and the local leaders. The trial and procession the heretic went through signify the trial and procession Jesus went through. Jesus said: "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." The religion of Christianity is devoted to being a heretic and then being brutally killed for it, thus imitating or mimicking Jesus. That is why it is obsessed with the concept of heresy and is devoted to bashing each other as heretics. All this is hidden in cryptic demonic ways.
If you are talking about the trinity, just take it as "it is and it isn't". That seems to be the only way to understand it that accounts for the myriad ways that God is Jesus and the Holy Spirit but also not because of such and such.
Ive always had a inquisitive and curious nature about other religions so this helps quite a bit of what is considered a heresy, and I thank you for being one of the few Christian youtubers who don’t add any subjective opinion into other religions like islam. And though its probably my bias speaking as a muslim, I still really do appreciate the work that you do.
Great video. As a christian , i think that my family isn’t interested enough in learning the old testament, stating that ‘Christ is all you need’. But i think the Old Testament is very important too and i’m really interested to learn more about it i don’t know where to start or how to be spiritually ready to study it
Explain the story of Abraham and Isaac, there are so many tiny details with profound meaning: the ram with his horns tangled in thorns, presented by God as a sacrifice to save from death, for example. It is a truly profound story.
Christianity as a religion ONLY exists due to the earthly life, sacrifice, and resurrection of Jesus, which you can only find from the New Testament. Therefore, if someone believes that the Old Testament is just as important as the New one, then their religion should be called Reformed Jewish Orthodoxy, not Christianity.
How is it a cult? No religion dogma no hierarchies and no man to worship. You dont know what a cult is or simply you didnt understand what real gnosticism is about
I love this channel. It helps me stand stronger in my faith. I thank my math teacher for introducing this channel through the "Arguments of God Explained" video.
@@Mystic879 First of all, I'm not in the United States. I'm in Canada. Secondly. I go to a Christian school, and the video I was talking about is the "Arguments about God explained" video, not this one.
I might just not have enough back knowledge because im not Christian, but your explanations of the heresy's make a lot more sense than your corrections
@@perecipita How can I believe something I don't know or understand? I don't understand the "corrections" he makes therefore I couldn't even believe in "correct" Christianity if I wanted...
@@Minecraftzocker135 The fact is, the Trinity is a mystery in the religious sense. You can understand that it's not contradictory, but that doesn't mean you have a full understanding of it. And how could we have a perfect understanding of God revealing himself to us? Knowing that God is one is easy, but to know more, the extra step is more difficult. Nothing wrong with that. But it's not the definition of Trinity that should make you believe in it, it's the Bible as support of revelation and faith. The faith is not an opinion about something you can relate to.
@@Minecraftzocker135 Think of it in a more philosophical way. Could we really call God "God" if the human mind was able to understand the complexities of an eternal being? If we did understand him wouldn't that create us as equals? We cannot understand God in his nature and the exact way he works in since it's incomprehensible. We cannot use worldly thinking/understanding to understand God since he is outside our human nature.
@@fsmayhemmc9570 but what results of your comment? If I don't understand the "correct" Christianity then I would have to trust someone else to interpret and understand it for me. That might work for catholics but for protestants?
An update on LDS/Mormonism, we simply believe that the scriptures are stating that the God, Jesus, and the holy spirit are one in purpose, not one in being. As the scriptures don't actually ever state that they are one being, only that they are "one", this is a valid interpretation. Its just an interpretation that other churches don't agree with. Afaik though there is nothing in scripture that points to only one being that can't also be interpreted in this way. Its like saying that a husband and wife become one. Marriage doesn't literally make them one being, obviously, but they become one in purpose.
Further update. We also believe in adoptionism, but I would present a different interpretation to you. We believe that god always existed and always will, but not always as a perfected being. Despite that, he was, is, and always will be god. God sees us for our potential, not how we are. He sees us for how we will be, and who we will be, in eternity. He knows that just because we are a sinner now, that that doesnt mean we cannot be redeemed, reformed, and made hole. It is in this sense that adoptionism CAN hold up, because we still believe that God and Jesus did always exist and will continue to always exist and they were always god, even while Jesus was an unorganized intelligence, even before he had a body, even while he was on earth, even after he died, and after his resurrection. He is, was, and will continue to be god, even as his state changes (such as going from a being with no human body, to a living human, to a dead human, to a resurrected human). These changes in state don't change his divinity, therefore we simply also believe that this also holds true when Jesus was yet an unorganized intelligence. I know this dips into a lot of stuff that is unique to mormon beliefs, but my point is that taken as a whole, it logically checks out.
@@thoughtgaming492 There's an issue with God always existing, but not always being perfect. An eternal being is unchanging. A perfect eternal being is always perfect, an imperfect being is always imperfect. The reason for this, is for something to change requires time. Time is apart of creation. God is the creator and not a creation. Thus timeless and eternal. Personally I don't like using the phrase 'perfect being'. The phrase itself is a judgement and we cannot judge God. So I prefer to call God a righteous being. This helps with rectifying those few passages in the Old Testament where the Father says he displayed regret of specific actions (like creating man, flooding the earth, or making Saul king).
@ I can give a more in depth explanation if you’d like but in short, the atonement erases sin as though it never happened. Because of this, once perfection is achieved, one can say they never were anything but perfect. Any sin was wiped clean and removed from record. Therefore, even if he was once man and became a God, he would never be considered to have ever been anything other than a perfect being. And time is something that god exists outside of, as will we when this mortal life ends and we inherit everything which our father has. We too, fall under this same paradigm according to LDS theology.
@@thoughtgaming492 You bring up a very interesting equation. Once people are brought back for eternal life, all the sin and evil are removed as if they never happened. The question then is how that actually manifests. But that is where we have many different interpretations. I'm somewhat familiar with the LDS interpretation and I do thank you for reminding of that, your abridged explanation was sufficient.
@@thoughtgaming492 im also a member of the LDS, what you stated that God was not always perfect is not official doctrine. L&V 20:17 By these things we know that there is a God in heaven, who is infinite and eternal, from everlasting to everlasting the same unchangeable God, the framer of heaven and earth, and all things which are in them; this is official doctrine.
@@T.D.F.M Yeah, I’m not condoning it but, the accusations were interesting in light of how St. Nicholas/Santa Clause is depicted in modern day society, especially the depictions found in secular circles.
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@@נדב_חומסקיIt is basically modalism
You forgot Protestantism.
I disagree with your utter aversion to analogies, since the Fathers used them. The whole point of analogies is that they dont represent reality perfectly, like maps of the globe or the 2D representation of a cube.
When you use all the analogies together they point to the truth of the Trinity, just like all projections of the globe point to the truth about it. Just like using Mercator doesnt mean you believe Greenland is half the size of Africa using the analogies dont necessarily point towards heresy.
All analogies by definition fall short, even more so an analogy of God. That doesnt mean analogies are intrinsically misleading, only that you need to be careful with them, to not fall into -the belief that antartica is larger than africa- a heresy.
Love how half of these are just “we changed just one thing” but that tiny thing is actually really important
"Very important" here meaning "internally contradictory"
Wait til you learn about modernism.
"we changed just one thing... and not one single thing remained the same"
@@alfgand8040 very good point actually. That should be part II. Which he said was coming up.
Demonstrates that god apparently does not care how he is worshipped. I mean, all it would have taken to stop Martin Luther was one conversation with an angel. All it would have taken to stop the Mormons is one Angel showing up at the first sermon, telling evreyone that this guy is high and should not be listened to. Same with Islam. Muslims are worshipping the same god in a different way. God apparently does not care.
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God: Do A
You: No, B
You: I do B, so God doesn't care lol why dont he send angel
Recently started becoming a Christian after being an edgy athiest for much longer than I would like to admit. These videos have been super helpful with helping me understand the faith. Thank you so much!
Welcome home brother. I was also a super edgy atheist
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Bro these videos? Come on bro you were doing so good
@@an000n Come on bro you ARE doing so bad
What is an edgy atheist? Asking as an agnostic. I get the atheism concept but what makes it "edgy"?
“Then he got slapped by Santa Claus”
THAT had me laughing
“You’re getting coal, Arius!” *Slap*
I had to look that up, but yeah, Saint Nicholas straight up punched him. Hilarious.
"Bro that's heresy!" Santa Claus said calmly.
*_"Naaaaaughty..."_*
Saint Nicholas of Myra (Άγιος Νικόλαος) was an Orthodox Bishop in Greek Anatalia before the islamic turks invaded and destroyed Anatolia 1000 years later, so he was not roman , he was not turkish, he was not protestant, he was Greek and Orthodox and we can see that in his writtings 🇬🇷 ☦
In all seriousness this is very confusing
Confusion. That is the single word that describes the human condition. Have you read the bible? The biblical corpus of books that provide the core material for all of the theological theories and doctrines? The Isms? If you haven’t read it all, I suggest doing that before listening to or reading multiple isms / theological theories. That should clear your confusion.
@@antbrown9066 I am in the process
@@JesusChrist-jh6jo excellent. Read with a clear mind if you can. Take the words directly without reference to others interpretations. See through a clear lens - if that is possible.
That is because the Trinity is false doctrine… It wasn’t taught for years and when they came up with it, it was not the commonly held belief.
An incomprehensible God is difficult to comprehend
My anxiety when trying to figure out what the trinity is without committing heresy: 📈📈📈📈📈📈
Edit: Holy moly there's some conflict brewing in the comment section 😭
If we go outside Biblical sources. In Jewish mysticism God must be separated from creation because his absolute nature erase any existence (lake of sulphur may be in fact the God himself). Heaven is separated from the God by the barrier, in which there is eight cracks known as Ophanim (in Christianity called Seraphim) who transfer isolated aspects of God into creation, creating eight heavens/virtues. Plus additional barrier what separate truly godless space guarded by four Elemental Angels called Living Beasts (Cherubim), known as Leviathan, Behemot, Ziz and Bael. Who are under control of Angel of Destruction and King of Sheol Sandelphon (Abaddon). Seven heavens are in charge of Angelic princes called Archangels who represent seven virtues and seven Serpahin, who as overmind do not have own personalities and collectively represent God. It is why God in bible say "ours" calling himself. But one of Seraphims represent Sentience itself and as such it has personas, being both Archangel of Wisdom Raziel Helel (The Son) who directly control own domain, King of Angels and Voice of God Metatron (The Father) and mentioned Sandelphon (Holly Spirit of Creation). Those three persona of Sepahims are the Trinity and they are in fact the God.
To be honest its one of the hardest part of christianity to understand. A lot of theologians have a problem with understading it.
@@Skiemk Not really. But you need apply "cyberpunk" logic here.
BTW: I see someone removed my detailed explanation from here?
Good fuck if it ain’t the most difficult thing out there.
Robbie Coltrane does a pretty fair job of explaining it in Nuns on the Run.
The amount of comic sans in this video should be a heresy
True, I think it's Times for New Romans.
@@brianhasiholanmangoloipard6059 I have been waiting for a new epistle since the year 100 or so.
@@bladdnun3016 lmaooo
@@brianhasiholanmangoloipard6059Perhaps a time for society to re'Calibri'te their thoughts and decisions? Mayhaps, a time for the pri'Verdana's to go 'Tahoma'? For a better 'Impact' on their 'Futura'?
...I'll see myself out
I think you mean an abomination, not a heresy.
"I thinks Jesus is someone worth arguing" liked that sentence. really motivates to talk about faith with others
do you really wanna talk about it, or just force others to believe as you do?
if you wanna talk about it, William Donahue here on youtube has some things to say
intead of arguing to prove you are right , learn and acept other religions , god is all loving and the truth is disclosed when you die
@@diogoribeiro3811the Greeks disproved that God cannot simultaneously be all good, all knowing, and all powerful, with simple maths. It’s called the Epicurus paradox.
@@Mesuxyxrxbskxkxyp And yet Greece is majority-Christian today (of their own volition by the way, Greek areas converted long before Christianity became associated with empire) /j
If a god knows everything and has unlimited power, then they have knowledge of all evil and have the power to put an end to it. But if they do not end it, they are not completely benevolent. Yet, what is evil in the eyes of said god? What is evil? (genuine question)
@@hkskh70040 it’s not just evil. In simple terms, you can see natural disasters like earthquakes and tsunamis devastate innocent people, and kids born with horrid deformities and conditions. The epicuran paradox is an observation that if there is a God, even if it’s all powerful, good, and knowing, humanity must not be the purpose of his creation. We might be like an insect making a chrysalis for a life form worthy of God.
I suspect we live in a godless world.
Honestly this is the stuff that put me off Christianity: there’s no simplicity
“If you can’t explain it, you don’t understand it” made into a whole damn philosophy
Just out of curiosity, may I ask, what’s your idea of a simple Christianity? God isn’t simple, never was or is, he’s something we aren’t. Yet he has feelings like us. He felt suffering, like us. But I can definitely relate to the whole “Wtf” in trying to follow Christian beliefs.
Everything has depth. The gospel can be understood by anyone, but Theology is very deep. Not all Christians have a deep understanding of all Theology, which is okay, but it's important to understand core Christian doctrine so you don't go on believing an unbiblical heresy.
I'm not religious, but nothing in this world or universe concedes to fit our understanding. Nature as a whole has always just done its thing with or without us and left us with bits and pieces trying to make sense of any of it.
But that doesn't have to dissuade you from learning new things anyway
Timestamps:
0:15 Liberalism
1:34 Arianism
2:28 Modalism
2:54 Partialism
3:14 Tritheism
4:00 Apollinarianism
4:38 Nestorianism
5:51 Monophysitism
6:17 Adoptionism
6:42 Pelagianism
7:08 Gnosticism
7:57 Subordinationism
8:25 One-sentence heresies
0:00 Calvinism
Thank you!
Ok... There is one God the Father. Jesus is a god but he is not God. Jesus is the only begotten of the Father and the holy spirit is not a god he's a spirit. All three are seperate and distinct individuals but are apart of the Godhead. God, the individual we worship is our father who created us all. Jesus Christ his only begotten son is the mediator of his plan to get us imperfect mortal children back home to father. Through Jesus Christ and his example and sacrifice we are saved and will return home. The holy spirit speaks to us and helps us in are daily lives to navigate this evil world. Im starting to notice that "Christianity" isn't very christian and is completely wrong and full of heresy's of the actual gospel of Jesus Christ. This makes me sad for all the people who are deceived by Satan into not knowing this. 😢
@@FlipflopskipskopSo you believe in multiple gods?
@@FlipflopskipskopJesus is our Creator and is to be worshipped. Both are clear in scripture.
I remember studying Gnosticism in high school. Like you said RZ, the lore is ridiculously complex and confusing to the point that it’s basically just a different religion that uses Christianity as the foundation. In Gnosticism the “God” of the Old Testament is not even God. He’s some demigod or some sort of lesser god. It’s worth studying to understand how pervasive this idea of “spiritual good, physical bad” is and how it has affected modern Christian sects.
Interesting side note: The creators of the Matrix movies are Gnostics. The films are essentially Gnostic allegories. My literature teacher had my class watch the first movie at home and try to pick out where the Gnostic influence/message came into play.
fr its just """christian""" esoterism
I was raised as gnostic and was so most of my life. Terrible dark magic.
Now I better understand why I dislike the Matrix.
@@Makaneek5060 Hey nice to see you here on UA-cam as well!
@@therion5458 Have you seen the "Sons of El" textual varient in Deuteronomy 32? What Paul is writing about definitely comes from the OT as he knew it.
Another heresy would be the Horus Heresy but we would need multiple hours to explain it properly.
many books in fact
tomes rather
At first I thought you wrote "we'll need multiple horus to explain it"
And my mind went:
"Well, we are gonna need a new Timmy!"
I'm pleasantly surprised to see Patrick made an appearance in this comments section.
It's funny how well 40k reflects abrahamic religions.
@@aaronmontgomery2055No, because even with warhammer's absurdity and childish jokes, it's still better written than the abrahamic religion. More interesting to.... Blood for the blood god.
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Ironically, Arianism was popular amongst the Germanic tribes after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
Hmm
No wonder - it does great job by adapting other skydaddies to be God with big G :D
@@krystofcisar469the term sky daddy makes me cringe
It would be ironic if it was being practiced by Jewish people…
it had support among the successors of Constantine in the eastern empire for a while.
I think it’s important to recognise that even if your mind can’t fully grasp some of these concepts, it doesn’t reflect on your salvation. Blatantly denying them is one thing, but you can be uneducated and illiterate and still be saved by the grace of God without understanding these things fully. Be blessed! 😊
which is a bit of a problem when your core belief is a mystery tho
So if you do your own study and come to the "wrong" conclusion, you're damned?
I mean, if you come to the conclusion that God is multiple gods, then yeah; You're not worshipping God. That's essentially what heresy boils down to. if you are creating a God in a different image than our God, then you aren't actually worshipping God, rather an idol. So yeah. @@magic_honey
@jackboehm8408 But if the biblical texts themselves can confuse genuine readers, how is that fair? Your God isn't very helpful, almost like he doesn't care if we're saved or not.
Suppose I go to a cemetery to pray at a saints grave but someone erroneously points me to the wrong grave and sincerely believing go pray there; will my prayers thus be inefficacious? I think *NOT*
Patrick! That’s modalism Patrick!
Hahahaha
My first thought!!!
I love how people still remember that video
Lol
Well, we come from a long line of snake farmers, but ta tell ya da truth, business has been real bad lately
He literally referenced this video in the examples he gave, it’s so good
Thank the trinity for allowing you to do this work.
Warhammer fans: "Man, the inquisition labels a lot of things heretical."
Redeemed Zoomer: "Hold my bible."
I tried explaining to one of my 40k friends that there is a god in the 40k universe but the characters don't know him. He thought I meant the Emperor. I told him, no, it's the author of the book.
@@mattk6719 The bible, and Jesus, and God exists in 40k.
IIRC the bible itself is considered the most dangerous book in the galaxy among demons, and I think Trazyn has one.
The equivalent of the Trinity in WH40k would be if every attempt to explain the emperor resulted in heresy.
@@gestapoid It's "how many primarchs are there?"
20? There is no such thing as the 2nd and 11th primarch, heresy!
To be fair, that's just how counterfeits work, and ur only gonna find counterfeits of the real thing. If 1 is true the rest are false, plain and simple.
“I have a good analogy”
“No you don’t shut up” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When I was very little, my dad tried explaining the trinity to me, and how it was a complex and infinite subject, but I thought I figured it out and told him I had it solved it, and that god just switched back and forth between the three of them, basically modalism. He was veeerrry quick to explain that thats was NOT it 😂
Nicene creed is a good read it will definitely restore your faith in god.😊
"What if he just moves from place to place, like, REALLY fast, while also changing his name"
@@gunnarneumann8321please capitalize God's name
@@benextraanimates7398 Pleas quite being so legalistic.
I thought that Old Testament God was one, and in New Testament he separated into three, which is partialism
Thanks for this. I'm beginning my own journey into faith now, after living most of my life more or less ignorant of it. I have so many questions, there's so much I can't comprehend about what's written, versus what's preached by different denominations. Thankfully I've found a link with a local church, and I'm going to meet with the rector soon to seek some guidance. All I want is to live a good, peaceful life. I'm praying this is my first step on that path.
Bruh the NIV translation might be for you. It’s what I use because it makes the language plain and easy to understand without being overlysimplified. Try it.
I am Muslim but it's still so fantastic to learn more about the Christian faith. Your videos are funny and nice to watch
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Calling all Warhammer fans who thought this was about heresy in that sense
lol
The Horus heresy.
i came for the title, but i couldn´t stop thinking about warhammer, heresy its all i heard now
Who is this Jesus guy? Some false idol, gonna need two bolters for this heresy. For the Emperor.
I thought that too until I actually read what it was. Joke is I don't care I'm a lore whore
"Wait, I have a good analogy. No you don't shut up" 😂🤣😂 by far the best video explaining the heresies, simple and funny. Well done 👍🏾👏🏾
Not the most Christian behavior. But I do that too much myself, so I'm in no position to judge.
Great let’s glorify dismissing someone before even letting him speak. Wow you guys are definitely the true non heretic Christian, well done. You definitely read Isaiah 13:11 and Proverbs 16 and apply it everyday. Nice.
@@vatt3436Okay that’s true but he literally said one can’t make analogies between the Holy Trinity and any earthly thing because the trinity isn’t like anything in the world, so any analogy can effectively be dismissed
@@vatt3436 I did think it was a strange addition to the video, especially after his points had been made
@@vatt3436 You're an atheist 😂
Just to specify: Heresy is a belief that deviates from the established/majority belief. It is in relation to something. A Christian heresy is a belief that is incompatible with the established beliefs of some other sect, NOT christianity itself. Calvinism's Predestination is a heretical to Catholicism whose addition of the filioque is heretical to the Eastern Orthdox. All three of which find Unitarians heretical. They all consider themselves Christians and justify their faith using basically the same Bible.
Thank you
Considered heresy ≠ heresy.
@박따농 More like Heresy to Catholicism (which most of these are) != Heresy to Christianity.
Side note: How did you get the "not equal" sign? My phone doesn't have it, so I have to use the "not equal" we use in programming.
@mickeyspanish9709 If Jesus died for our sins to save us, then there are gonna be some beliefs that are so twisted that they won't unite you to Christ. I get that you probably don't believe in Christianity, but if that one thing is true, no amount of calling people heretics will make you a heretic, and some may be unsaved. Iconoclasm was condemned by Catholicism, but it's a very strange thing to call a heresy. But if you change the message (gospel) as Galatians 1:8 condemns, or change God as the entire Bible condemns, you obviously are united to the wrong Christ, right?
Also in my phone I can just hold the equals button. On my computer, I might copy and paste.
As a Muslim I clicked on this to understand what Christians believe but now im more confused.
These are heresies
You are supposed to be confused
@@WARLORDDOM I should have made this more clear but some of the heresies made more sense than the explanation of the trinity any thing you could recomend I watch that goes more in depth.
@@nookzerdaoudidi5869i agree with you
me too... I'm so confused right now.
@@muhamadsayyidabidin3906 Heresies are falsehoods.
Im an athiest, but i do believe understanding other religions and practices is important for people to come together and understand one another, so thanks for the education
Unfortunately, 100s of millions of people don't think like that.
I would try to study Christianity even if you are an atheist so your decision can be based on knowledge than lack of knowledge.
@@thereal4815 i actually used to be a Christian
I am an atheist too, and I have a very religious friend who constantly tries to convert me lol
@@thereal4815this is funny considering most religious people are religious because of their lack of knowledge. Knowledge being facts or even reading the Bible. Not intelligence
As an atheist, I always find it amusing when I'm debating with a liberal Christian, and they end up spouting actual heresy trying to come up with a counter-argument. Like, if you can't even get your own theology right, why should I give you any legitimacy?
One must think that a god with unlimited wisdom and power would be better at getting his story straight if he cares so much
@@IDoThings490 Just so, my friend. Just so.
Humanity is so strange, these non heretic christians think they are right and so does every other denomination and every other religion on earth.
@@IDoThings490 What story from what god do you have? You underestimate mans separation from truth due to a fallen intellect.
@@IDoThings490 What has God got to do with humans intellect?? The Bible says we can't fully comprehend God. If you think you can, then that's not God.
This is so incredibly entertaining, I just can't get over how many people can get so incredibly worked up over what amounts to no more than faerie tales laden with political subterfuge.
I'm 14 and this is deep
The “um I got a good analogy” was so funny 🤣🤣🤣
As i Catholic I've esperienced many arguments with protestants about Virgin Mary where they told me that she is't mother of God just his "human part" or whatever.
Good to know this heresy has an actual name.
Protestantism is also heresy.
It's funny, there is a historical "Nestorian" Community of Christians that thrived across Asia and the East which the West identified as Nestorian, but doctrinally they didn't really ascribe to the heresy. Protestants are more Nestorian than the Nestorians.
@KyoReyes that is what all heretics say.
@KyoReyes just go and read some books about history of Christianity; read the Patristics. Proofs are everywhere. None So Blind As Those Who Do Not See.
@@madmax3655 last I checked, Protestants believe in one God, the trinitarian God, that Jesus Christ died for our sins and was resurrected on the 3rd day, transcended to Heaven to come back with all his saints. The catholic credo is the evangelic credo, the difference is only in traditions, which aren't biblical and one might consider optional. Same with orthodoxy, who have a much stronger focus on tradition than even catholics, but fundamentally have the same credo.
You can argue all day long how far the evangelic church has fallen into worldliness and apostasy, but in all fairness the catholic church has too, the protestants only seem to be always one step ahead of the catholics in that regard.
Hey RZ, just converted about a year ago and youve made the process so much easier. Thanks!
Hi @xwinghax. Can you tell me your very best good piece of evidence that justifies your convesion?
@@SalemK-ty4ti he owes you nothing
@@ryan.1990 If you had good evidence you wouldn't be saying "he owes me nothing" Instead you would be giving me on good piece of evidence that he exists. But you don't have any good evidence so you make up an excuse like this.
OH, and he does owe me because a threat without evidence isn't really a threat. His message is quite clear. He sent Jesus to threaten all mankind. Either believe in him, love and obey him and if you don't he will torture you in the most possible way for eternity by throwing you into his torture pit called Hell. So yeah, you do owe me at minimum one good piece of evidence that he exists because god won't. Why would an all powerful, all knowing god who loves me not give me just one good piece of evidence he exists? This should not be a problem for him to do since he supposed to be able to do anything possible. Instead he has to rely on humans to spead his word, just like every other religion - none of these gods provide good evidence they exist. In other words you are just like every other religion with no good evidence for the existence of their god or gods. Same old story, faith, personal testimony(AKA personal experience and ancient books full of contradictions with stories proven by science to be false.
@@SalemK-ty4tifaith.
I get a smile on my face every time I see someone say they converted. God bless you brother, all the days of your life.
When you are saying 'that's heresy!!!!' with the sound effect, that sent chills down my spine.
I am Muslim and I want to understand Christianity so as to have fruitful conversations with others.
What concerns me is how little theology is taught in churches so many Christians (extrapoling my small sample size) are heretics.
Youre doing a good job.
Thanks for being a man of good will. I’m trying to understand Islam better too.
My girlfriend led me to God, but we are in dire need of His help. Please pray for us! 🙏🏻✝️
I thank everyone who is praying for us!
i pray that you will let go of your delusion and believe in yourself instead of relying on an imaginary higher power
@@skipslash7367i pray that you actually stop suppressing the truth like Romans 1 says, and you repent. if you stay in your sin your going to hell. i urge you to repent. i could easily destroy your worldview in a debate but i’m guessing you probably don’t want to debate. i hope you come to Christ.🙏 you need him. your worldview is crushed without him.
@@Veltresworld suppressing the truth? suppressing what truth? that i should give up all my power and faith in myself and give myself up to some imaginary higher power? sorry, no, as i have a good relationship with my father, unlike you
@@skipslash7367 and this is why you love sin. John 8:44: "You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires." You need to repent immediately. you don’t believe in God? that’s a truth claim. where do you get truth outside of God??
@@Veltresworld I get truth from my observations. You get "truth" because some guy thousands of years ago wrote it in a book. That is not truth, that is foolishness.
3:48 Humans trying to understand the trinity is like a 2D person trying to make sense of a 3D object, there's a good analogy.
edit: thanks for the likes but please stop arguing with each other in the comments, I'm not a bible expert or a scientist.
Hey, nice.
ye IP used that analogy too
@@sponge6171 what does IP stand for?
@@RobotDude375Likely it would stand for Inspiring Philosophy
@@sponge6171because that is a good analogy, a 2d person knows a 3d world exists and is logical but unfathomable
Hence why the trinity is logical but unfathomable
You should definitely make an episode addressing islams objections to Christianity (“corrupted scripture”, Jesus doesn’t claim to be God, contradictory ideas, etc.) I feel like it’d be great with your video structure
Also how literally every historian of the first century agrees that the fact that Jesus was crucified is absolutely certain. The Quran insists that He was not crucified
Bruh he doesn't need to the fact that "prophet" Muhammed is an apollinarianism version of Jesus is clear enough evidence that there's no theologically sound reason Islam can be right in any way
What you are looking for is Sam Shamounian, look up his vids on youtube. He explains the mistakes/lies in islam and judaism, dissects their anti christian arguments, explains the errors in translation of greek, hebrew, arabic words used in scripture or quran.
There is also the yt channel called TheArchive, its a place where particular clips from Sams livestreams are stored.
@@michaeltagor4238 receiving revelation from god does not mean you have a divine mind. Muslims don't believe the prophet pbuh had any attributes of god at all.
@@calebklingerman7902 actually in Quranic lore it says that Jesus wasnt crucified but Yudas Iskarot was. It was made to appear that he was Jesus because god whilst literal Jesus was brought to the heavens which im pretty sure hes still alive to this day. (Didnt come to argue but simply stating an interesting perspective from a religion with completely different values)
3:48 if the trinity cannot be explained by anything that exists in the material world, how it can be expressed and conveyed in any language?
I love that I knew some of these without actually knowing some of the official terms 😂 Great video as always!
That little "that's mooodalism pahtrick" tucked away at the top was hilarious! I heard the voice! Thanks for that. Need to go back and rewatch. Great video, by the way, very informative.
Can you make a video on cults to watch out for, especially on college campuses? Yesterday I was approached by two ladies asking me if I knew about "God the Mother" who apparently is a South Korean lady that Jesus prophesized about in Revelation? Thankfully I wasn't deceived but I worry someone with less biblical knowledge would have been, especially since their flyer for their Bible study said "Heavenly Family and Earthly Family" which sounds innocent to the average college student, especially if they were raised Christian but don't have solid Biblical or theological knowledge.
Generally just stay away from any cult/sect/denomination that aren't mainstream Christianity. There's reason they aren't mainstream, and it's not anything good.
I think that may be the "Mother God Cult". Mike Winger did a video about them once, I'm pretty sure.
I'd say watch out for any cult. Try following a well-known denomination, ideally a high church one that believes in real presence in the sacraments and that has tradition (ideally Roman Catholic imo)
@@justhair17 yeah, if you want the “true” teachings that the apostles taught then definitely join one of the apostolic churches. Either Eastern Orthodoxy or some rite of Catholicism, would be the ideal.
They're from a group called the World Mission Society Church of God. Strange group that purports to worship a Christ-like woman in South Korea. Check out the Wikipedia page for them it's weird stuff.
I was just in an argument regarding heresy and this pops up…. I’m over here like “dang it… I think I’ve committed one or two of these before”
I think everyone has committed the sin of "Arianism" at one point or another, I know I have
If I hear heresy, I connect it with a demi-god ruining fun for humanity in 30th millennia because he went bald
"hes having fun? HERESY!!!!"
The man named Horus Heresy, owner of all 40,000 warhammers
or for warhammer fantasy, heresy is saying that you saw a bipedal ratman using advanced weapons, as as we all know the skaven are but a myth.
Update: the skaven were in fact not a myth and have tried to crash the moon into the planet.
Now let's make a video on the various conceptions about the natures of the four Chaos Gods and about Chaos itself (and the matter of the Horned Rat yes-yes) !
There's a wh40k sfm that parodies the one part of SpongeBob where SpongeBob is having a melt down. Recommend highly for heresy.
excited for this one!! lol I’m working on the first Spanish video translation of your channels most popular videos, it’s just gonna take me a while cause I’m a full time student and working part time job
Glad the channel is spreading!
you got perms from RZ?
Man, here in Latin America we need a lot channels like this one, because we got a lot of heretic videos full with Superstition and with no doctrine. This is the kind of UA-cam channel that we need here. Thanks to god (sorry for my bad english)
Nice Job I think we need one in India too because most of the mainline churches in India are falling to liberalism.
@ConeComrade I think RZ talked about how he’d support people who translate his videos.
Months ago i prayed to God "If there's a faulty in me that i don't know of, please tell me so i can change"
I thought He will tell me from a life experience. I never even thought that He will tell me directly that i believed in 2 heresy these past years through your PPT-like meme video lol.
God bless your soul, m8
Praise GOD!✝️
bro same.
yeah bro it was definitely the manifestation of god and not the youtube algorithm.
@@akoomerthecoomer5536 The youtube algorithm IS God! There i just created a new heresy. Who wants to join?
All religions are false.
Hello brother Reedeemed Zoomer! You are so helpful. Im from the Philippines.
*Is confused on a confusing subject*
“THATS HERESY!”
Yeah, this is why the trinity to me is needlessly complicated. Having read 3 versions of the bible the implication I got was simply Jesus was God's son and we worship God through Jesus as he is the vessel of our salvation. Much simpler than all this trinity nonsense.
@@cosmictraveler731amen to that brother. If God wanted us to believe Jesus was somehow also God... I would think he would explicitly say so. Rather we get Jesus saying things like "The Father dwells in me and I dwell within the Father" and "The Father tells me what to say, and I say it" and "My will is the will of the Father"
well the thing is, heresy isn't necessarily sinful. there's a huge difference between misunderstanding the trinity vs, just making up an example here, saying that God is infinitely evil. the former is a heresy, and the latter is also a heresy, but more importantly, it's extremely blasphemous.
@@cosmictraveler731 The Trinity is not complicated at all. I'll explain it in two sentences. There is one God: Jesus (the Son) is God, the Father is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And none of them are each other. Done. With a little faith in a transcendent being beyond total human comprehension, this doctrine is easy (and fun!) to accept.
@@beamshooter John 10:30-33 John 17:21-22 John 1:1-5 John 5:18 John 8:58 Actually maybe just read the whole Gospel of John again. Jesus explicitly claims to be God multiple times.
Been a devout Christian my whole life and I still don’t know how to explain the trinity. One triune God. One true God.
Ok so how do you explain these verses if there's One triune God?
Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is One."
John 10:30 "I and My Father are One."
John 14:9b "He who has seen Me has seen the Father."
God does not exist as three because as God's Son Jesus is God, and Jesus' Spirit is the Holy Spirit. All the positions of the Godhead are summed up through Jesus Christ. Trinitarians(80% of the Christian world)commit the partialist heresy by creating two more persons. Jews and Oneness Christians, like myself, know God is One God in One person. Look up the word Trinity in the Bible and you won't find it, but look up verses about Oneness and you will find there are over 200 verses that affirm the Oneness of God
@@clintparker oneness Christians love to take that verse out of context. Let me ask you something, you realize that the word used in the old testament for the Lord being one, is the same word used to describe a union? You heretics don't even realize it. Yall stick to pure english translations since if you read what it actually says, it contradicts you. Y'all barely have scripture to back you up
If it's only one person, how could the holy spirit come down as a dove and the father speak through the clouds, as well as Jesus be baptized at the same time? Explain that then, you're using arguments from silence, the "why is Trinity word not in bibel" like some monkey who can't do 2 and 2, thats like saying the word Bible isn't in the Bible.
@@metroplier8392 everything you've said is 100% heretical. I can only pray for those offended by the Truth that they come to know the Truth: that "the Lord is our God, the Lord is One."
@@metroplier8392 we have more Scripture to back our beliefs, which are not heretical, that Trinitarianism AKA a form of partialism does. Verses that affirm Trinitarianism: 0. Verses that affirm Oneness and deny the Trinity: over 200
im an atheist, so i understand if you dont like me, but i always find religion so interesting and love learning about other people's world views. Very cool video
Learning about other worldviews is always a great choice👍
TBH, I think this video is probably making more people irreligious. It only "makes sense" (ie - it completely does not) to people that are already faithful. To those that are wavering in their faith, it show how illogical the most fundamental tenets of Christianity are and might actually push them to abandon what little faith they had had.
So, I guess score one for atheism? If you want actually useful explanations of Christianity that don't attempt to make sense (because it doesn't), check out Ready to Harvest. At least there, there's no attempt to rationalize the irrational. The presenter/content is almost completely Christian and is as about non-biased as could be.
@@nuke___8876"I think this video is making people more irreligious" this is a very subjective view, you can't back this up at all
As a Christian I'd rather be friends with a understanding Atheist than a dogmatic, hateful Christian. Wanting to understand others, imo, is a good way to show love to others and I respect those who do their best to show this kind of love wherever possible.
Honestly, I think I like you on the sole fact you’re not a dogmatic (fill in the blank) with your views. I myself respect and study other peoples views, because I find it fascinating and interesting to learn, even though I am still Christian. I see where you’re coming from
I genuinely like this explanation vid even though Im not a christian. As a buddhist, we do suffer the same problem that ppl interpret the scriptures to suit their beliefs and completely forget about reaching Nirvana
I'm Christian and I've been studying shintoisme for research purposes. Would you say that Buddhism in Japan had been watered down because of shinto? Or has it retained the essentials?
@@VirginMostPowerfullbuddhism has regional variants everywhere and (folk buddhism) and is infused and spliced moreso than watered down.
actual plain buddhism isn't even a typical religion but rather a philosophical exercise.
@@VirginMostPowerfullShinto and buddhism are two separate religions. That is how far they are. The same as Hinduism and buddhism or Islam and Christianity.
@@dentelle2190 I see, and this is not an issue for the Dalai Lama or any Buddhist authority that the religion has many shapes based on local beliefs? The philosophical exercise you talked about I've heard some defend it but does this include reincarnation and the different planes of existence too or no?
No matter the religion, I've noticed only a very few adhere to the actualy doctrine set forth by the original material. That begs the question then, what one believes is the true doctrine has that then been changed over time and we simply don't know what we don't know.
I'm literally the guy committing heresies while trying to understand the trinity.
@gerald.bostianlet's be careful with the alls
@gerald.bostianI can attest to this
Yes, Patrick, stop with the modalism already
You can't understand it because it's nonsense, so you might as well stop trying
@@UrfavigboThat is to assume you have perfectly understood the faith without a single misunderstanding about the Bible. I would say no human has done so.
02:29 This part feels like a fandom's confused attempt at trying to mend the plot hole the original author left.
All of these basically are the fandom being confused about what the author ment.
Not really considering the bible forces you to be a trinitarian.
For every heretic theres a verse contradicting their view.
@@therealmaskriz5716 Sure, but there's a plethora of scriptures that contradict the trinity as its advertised. "Aryanism", as we like to call it today, is well known to have been the defacto belief until somewhere in the ball park of 150ad to 200ad, long after the apostles died. It is well understood that NONE of the figures in the bible taught or believed in the trinity, and the trinity as understood today is a "sacred secret" which the biblically scholars discovered later on. Whether you choose to believe the trinity as advertised is up to you, but no there is no reason that considering the bible forces you to be a trinitarian as there are many Christian beliefs that don't. The term "Christian" was coined in the first century to denote a follower of Christ, not someone who believed he was God. You can carry the name Christian simply by following his ways, you do not have to believe he was God and that he requires worship.
@RezDisciple "Go baptise in the name of the father, the son, and the Holy spirit"
@@therealmaskriz5716bible ain't forced me to do shit.
As a Roman Catholic, I approved your video so much! 👍👍👍
May God bless you and your whole family! 🙏❤️
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I love how, when you get passionate about this stuff, you sound like you’re gonna make us an offer we can’t refuse.
This unironically helps atheists point out the contradictions more easily
What
@@noahcole6856 Watch the video bro
Good, they challenge us to study more, and get closer to God.
@michaelanuradha-khufu4867 hello
Muslims, too.
the "erm actually" guy if he got a baptism
Erm actually we don’t know if he got a babtism
@@makishacook8436 erm actually idc
@@bederbederp erm actually you said “the ‘erm actually’ guy if he got a babtism” witch implies you care about him getting a babtism
@@makishacook8436 erm actually I was just trying to be funnt
we found a 9 year old
Bro this is SO GOOD. Around the 8 minute mark I starting shouting about the earth being redeemed with “the new heavens and new earth”
Never in my life I ever felt confused enough.
Yeah, this is why the trinity to me is needlessly complicated. Having read 3 versions of the bible the implication I got was simply Jesus was God's son and we worship God through Jesus as he is the vessel of our salvation. Much simpler than all this trinity nonsense.
@@cosmictraveler731 why not worship the God that Jesus worshipped? Jesus didn´t say "pray to me" or pray through me", he said pray to the Father alone. follow religion OF Jesus, not religion ABOUT Jesus.
@@cosmictraveler731we’re not meant to understand it
@@mightymasochisthe said “I and the father are one” dude that means worship Jesus because he’s God and vise versa
@@blacksnapper7684 yet in the following verse Jesus says he and disciples are one just like he is one with the Father. Are disciples gods too? John 17:3 Jesus says the ONLY TRUE GOD is the Father, and Jesus is someone who that Father sent. Jesus says on multiple occasions he is only doing the will of the Father. Jesus also says the geatest commandment is ”Hear O Israel! Your God is One!” Jesus also says Father is greater than he (Jesus). He also says ”I am going back to my Father and your Father, my God and your God”. Does God have a God?
Not ONCE did Jesus say you should worship him, or that he is god. Yet multiple times he says Father is the greatest, Father is the Only True God, worship only the Father and so on. Again: follow religion OF Jesus, not religion ABOUT Jesus. Jesus didn’t preach christianity, and he wasn’t a christian.
I consider myself agnostic but I really love this channel because I feel like it clears up a lot of questions I had growing up Christian
Dude, according to this Video I am a Heretic on about 4 Levels because I try and follow what the bible says and not what I was taught growing up. I had loads of questions too, because what I was taught growing up never fully meshed with the Scriptures. There is another channel you may like that helped me figure it all out. It is called Kingdom in Context. He has also been called a heretic, but I don't think that matters. We are all trying to seek the truth. You can call me a Mary Poppins for all I care, as long as I am seeking and following truth. Good luck on your Journey my brother, may you find and build a relationship with the God that you already know exists.
With due respect, that’s a terrible thing to say. We should want to get Jesus right lest we end up like the Muslims Mormons or jehova’s witnesses! We as a flock must not go astray
Really? I'm more confused now than ever.
With all due respect, that's a terrible thing to say. We should try to respect other people's beliefs even if they don't align with our religion! This way we won't create unnecessary religious conflict ;)@@toastydoge9934
@@toastydoge9934 Should we not all have a personal relationship with God, as two brothers would have differently with their father?
Honestly zoomer, thanks. You helped me actually dive into christianity after just being fed unnecessary fluff by my parents.
I would note that he is a Calvinist. So there is a bias of his own within the theology he follows. I’d take his explanations with a grain of salt.
His explanation of Pelagianism is a term Calvinists throw on non-Calvinists to metaphorically beat them into submission to Calvinism. I’d suggest reading more on what Pelagius _actually_ taught before using this video as a template for your dive into Christianity.
@klaustheViking is right, this video is excellent, but its explanation of Pelagianism is where it falls short. We aren't born guilty of Adam's sin, or God would judge us for Adam's sin on Judgement day, and we know God judges us for our own sin, not the sin of others. We aren't born sinful (as in guilty of sin). We are born with a fallen nature that is fatally inclined to sin (will sin given the opportunity.) This is why babies don't go to hell if they die, they aren't held responsible for sins they didn't commit. Also there is the age of acountability, but that requires some more biblical research/explanation than I can give in a UA-cam comment. Like I said though, great video apart from the Pelagianism explanation.
Sounds like you went from unnecessary fluff to unnecessary nitpicking.
But babies do sin. Our fallen nature leads all of us to sin constantly in everything we do. Their sins are miniscule and trivial in comparison to what we do, of course, but if you believe that they have souls then you must believe that they have the guilt of sin, the same as we all do.
So what happens to them? The answer is that nobody knows. My belief is that everyone who has not accepted Christ due to ignorance or incapacity is, at the moment of death, given a full and perfect knowledge of the Truth, and is given one final opportunity to believe in Jesus then.
@@ElijahDawkins-yb1uc Can you justify (Biblically) your belief on what happens to infants when they die?
4:05 fun fact when I was little I thought "baby Jesus" meant Jesus was always a baby, so I imagined a baby giving people wise advice
I'm kenyab
@@Zoro-x9i Hi kenyab, I'm dad
3:40 USE ANALOGIES! Trinitarian analogies are 100% orthodox. The analogy of the sun, for example, is used by Saint John Damascene and by Tertullian. Frankly, Trinitarian analogies have been used throughout the entrie history of the Church. This popular notion that analogies are bad mainly comes from a stupid video from Lutheran Satire. Analogies should portray only certain aspects of the thing. That's the point. Analogies should not be identical representations. That's why Trinitarian analogies are useful IF we make the appropriate negations and distinctions; explaining where the analogy falls short of reality.
1. Tertullian isn't a church Father and became Montanist later in his life so if we could avoid it, let's not quote him. 2. Many people have fallen prey to using analogies only to have their teachings condemned. St Patrick of Ireland for example and his three leaf clover. You could easily fall into partialism. 3. Even when orthodox analogies are made, it is acknowledged that it falls short.
I don't think using analogies is bad. But you could fall into heresies so easily.
I agree with this. We know that Jesus used parables, and related spiritual matters to the practical world to help the limited finite mind of man wrap his mind around his message.
@@saribeepo.o5111 parables are not the same as using analogies to explain God. Be fr. Which one of Jesus's parables did he say God is like a...
Been a catholic revert for about 3 years. This video is super informative, good work!
Then you should know that the Church has also considered Protestantism a heresy as well. Of course, it wouldn't be mentioned here.
@@vSwampFox the trinity is satanic!
@@vSwampFox Which heresy does the Protestant church commit? If it's something created by the Catholic church, does it have a scriptural basis? Legitimate questions - not trying to pry or be sarcastic. No church or denomination has the power to denounce something unless it is directly in contradiction with a scriptural commandment or obvious truth. Anything else is man-centered. The reason for sola scriptura is that, if you are starting at any other point than directly God's words which came from Him, it is going to be inherently flawed. 1 Cor 4:6 is a good text for this.
@@N1c2k3 Well it's probably important for you to figure out first, why you have the premise in your mind to say these phrases. I'm surely not one to be able to spend all kinds of time debating on the internet, but being as you asked, here's what I'd consider if I were in your position, asking the questions you are asking.
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"No church or denomination has the power to denounce something unless it is directly in contradiction with a scriptural commandment or obvious truth".
"Anything else is man-centered."
" The reason for sola scriptura is that, if you are starting at any other point than directly God's words which came from Him, it is going to be inherently flawed." /end Quote
That alone is quite the list of things already preconceived in your mind. Especially considering, scripture contradicts what you're saying.
-God gave the Apostles the authority to bind and loose. What did they Bind & Loose? A lot of things. Both before Christ's death, and after. Not all of which are written in what you call the Bible.
-"Obvious Truth", is a completely subjective statement.
-There is no holy scripture, instructing the apostles, nor the disciples, to collect, and decipher books being written by themselves, and then declare which of these hundreds of books are or are not worthy for divine teaching. The only scripture that even attempts to covers such a task, is the authority given to them, by Jesus, to Bind & Loose.
-Sola Scriptura is a man made belief philosophy taught by very late Christian sects. Ancient Christendom, never mentions this ideology. Ever. Plus, Paul himself contradicts this belief system, when he instructs his listeners of the things they are to do, that are not written, but are heard and passed down through tradition. Not to mention, there was no bible during the time of their teaching and preaching.
Hope this helps you on your journey. I'm certain it's plenty food for thought.
PS- If you are really interested in deep history, regarding Christianity, NewAdvent \.org is an incredible resource for historical writings.
Cheers
He forgot the worst heresy of them all - six centuries ago the church sent 5 consecutive crusades (around 100 000 soldiers each) against the worst enemy of christianity - a group of bohemian peasants who committed the worst heresy of them all - they believed paying indulgences (money to the church) for removal of sins is immoral. They dared to question the most profitable income of the church.
Fun fact - all 5 of the crusader armies were beaten by those peasants, the last one ran away without a fight. Those peasants were the first to use guns as a main weapon in the army, ended the era of the "knight in the shining armor".
Based on the info on Liberalism that can also fit those who fly the American flag around their churches and preach more about Republican politics than about Christ and theology. Interesting! Great post!!! ❤
Absolutely. Republicans and democrats are basically identical on a spiritual level, politics is depraved. Unless your politics are promoting the Social Kingship of Christ, they belong outside of God's house.
“Before Him all the nations are as nought, as nothing and void He counts them” Isaiah 40:17, that includes the United States. Idolatry and blasphemy is all that’s behind the hood of nationalism
Copium
So you want a Christian flag instead? Then don't build a church in America
Yes that is valid. Tying nationality to religion corrupts both. One must live in the world, but to worship a government of man is not the intent of the gospel ministry. Divorcing the endeavor from the dictates of man's governments is one of the things that brought forth the executions and suffering.
This is not to say that your relationship with God is to be completely ignored when functioning in community, commerce or governance. The enlightened morality can impose heavy consideration on your choices at voting....but you can't vote your way to salvation. C S Lewis often said, my nation is not my church....which is ironic of an Anglican to say when the national elected government appoints the Archbishop and places them in the PMs Cabinet.
I like a lot of your Vids. I’ve learned so much😃. Thank you for making them
Being a Sikh person this is one of my favourite channels about abrahamic religions since it helps me expand my knowledge about other forms of worships and also understand things in more perspective. (Also helps that I can nerd out infront of my friends at times, i know not a very good hobby)
Edit: guys stop fighting. It's fine if something is far right or far left, we should focus more on what's the current content of the video, and the comment (in this case my comment) more.
Do keep in mind that this channel is from a far-right perspective and based on the posters opinions, rather than the scholarship.
@@BurnBird1 i understand, and honestly at the end of the day I am just here to learn about stuff, religious politics is a very messy and complex issue which a smart person should avoid unless necessary. So there's that.
@@rishabhsingh357 That's fine, I just wanted to make sure that you kept that in mind. If you are interested in some more scholarly sources, I would heavily recommend "Religion for Breakfast" and "Let's Talk Religion" They do cover much more than just Christianity, but they have some excellent videos on early and different branches of Christianity.
@@BurnBird1 hmm thanks for information, I'll see if they suit me.
@@BurnBird1boo hoo
Galileo was threatened with physical harm, which is by definition torture. The only reason he wasn’t physically tortured was because of his old age and ill health.
Hold on when my parents threatened to punish me they were torturing me😢
Torture- the action or practice of inflicting severe pain or suffering on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something
Threat- a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done
He was threatened, with torture most likely, not tortured. Saying and doing aren’t the same.
Should also be noted that the Catholic Church were not against Galileo's or Copernicus' ideas until they started losing membership over them, not talked about a lot.
@@clawso9014 For a Zoomer it is, where the smallest implication of anything they dislike seems to drive them into an extreme state of suffering, until somebody validates them.
Ergo threatening torture is just as bad as torture. For the Zoomer brain, anyways.
@@Palatine-Knight This is what you get when a whole generation of kids don't get spankings because their parents traded millennias-old wisdom for crackpot hippy psychology rhetoric about corporal punishment being somehow damaging to children's egos. Damn right it keeps their egos in check...that's the whole point. Otherwise you get a generation of spoiled, egocentric narcissists.
Thanks for setting the record straight and refreshingly debunk some misconceptions about Christianity.
bro just contradicted himself 100 times in 8 minutes and you say debunk? lol
@@zaidkiwan5168I'm not very bright.
@@steffen5121 that's not true. The church makes you think you're dumber than to be able to understand god. When the bible says "your god is not the author of confusion"
Modern Christianity is peganism disguised as monotheism
Thank you for your hard work you've done in explaining all the heresies!!!
Damn you really called me out! Just realized I have indeed pretty much been living like a Gnostic. The idea that God cares for and truly values this broken physical world is insane to me but the more I think about it the more I realize it's true. I think this is maybe your most important video for Christians because it highlights the little inconsistencies we may have been having about what we actually believe that isn't biblical. God bless you brother
oh no!
no one cares
@@Fnidner Did I fucking ask you? What's your problem?
Except this physical world is not "broken". It is God's great & wonderful Creation. It is not fallen. True Gnosis is Knowledge. Christianity is Superstition. For someone denigrating Gnosticism it's funny how Christians incorporated much of Pseudo-Gnosticism in their hatred of God's glorious Creation as being somehow Corrupted. Bible was Written by Men, Compiled by Men, interpreted by Men. Every step of that was a Political one with what written, what complied, what interpretations of the text to be taken all taken as Political decisions.
in what way is the world "broken"? what would an "unbroken" world look like? a world without problems? if so it seem that there is nothing of value to do in such a world because nothing can be improved.
There's nothing wrong with gnosticism - even the crudely oversimplified version of it summarized in this video. It was one of the first versions of Christianity to show up in the Apostolic period. Why dismiss it? Just because NIcean Christianity bullied its way to the front in the 4th century, thanks to the political power of Constantinople?
As far as we know, some of the apostles could have been gnostic.
Have to say: you really get your point across in a short and clear way. You truly are gifted with the comunication skills God gave you.
He's a false prophet who has not the slightest clue about what he's even talking about and you think he has good communication skills?
Too bad the Lord taketh away as well
The way you explained Nestorianism helped clarify it for me. Thank you!
He should have just put up a picture of John MacArthur.
I have been an evangelical Christian for a long time, and studied church history for over 25 years. I think this is an excellent explanatory video, and except for my comments, I think you are correct in every detail. Because I think this video is "almost perfect", I wanted to make four suggestions, and the first is trivial.
1) First the religion is spelled "Sikhism" not Sikihism".
2) When someone, such as a Muslim first becomes a Christian, they might not have all of their doctrine correct on the Trinity, at least not until they watch this video ;-). It is not that they rejected orthodox doctrine, rather they have not learned it yet. I have also heard from ex-Mormon Christians that when Mormons become Christian it often takes them about a year to "get everything sorted out correctly." Before that time, they are still genuine Christians, it is just that they are "in process" in arriving at a Biblical, consistent doctrine.
3) It is not quite correct that Jehovah's Witnesses are a modern-day form of Arianism. I used to teach that too, a Jehovah Witness elder corrected me on that. Unlike Arians, Jehovah's Witnesses are not warlike or violent, like Arians, and they have a whole Watchtower structure built up, think Jesus is the Archangel Michael, that the Holy Spirit is just God's active force, and they have very weird views of the end-times. (my words, not his.) It might be more precise to say that Jehovah's Witness theology is a heresy that has similarities to Arianism in their view of God.
4) There is a little more to a "subordinationist" viewthan you show. When a group claims that Jesus is a lesser nature, glory, or honor, this is a heresy such as JW's or Arians, Mormons, and the old Worldwide Church of God. However, some like Tertullian and others affirm the Trinity but saying that the three differ in role and rank, with the Son being sent by the Father, and the Fahter/Son sending the Holy Spirit. Others, like Ambrose of Milan and Augustine of Hippo denied any difference in rank. So that is one slight difference between Trinitarians, and both views are Christian.
Thanks again for a good video that I will recommend to others.
Steve morrison www.biblequery.org
Aren't we all followers of Liberalism to some degree? I haven't met any hardcore christian that follows everything from, for example, Deuteronomy to the letter. We don't consider women on their period unclean etc.
What Christians call "heresy", non-believers call "natural evolution of religious ideas"
Most Christians accept that Evolution is a fact and don’t take the biblical creation story literally.
No
No, because it discusses very clearly in the Bible that the ritual elements of the old law are not binding on Christians. Without exaggeration it is one of the big themes of Paul's collected epistles and a good chunk of the Acts of the Apostles. I don't know how people miss this
@patrickcronin6795 does Bible have a detailed list of what doesn't apply?
As a Muslim I'm glad that I found this channel, it's difficult to find people who like to look at theology as more than just "if you don't believe what I believe the way I believed it then you're a sinner and you deserve hellfire" it's very refreshing to see such intellect applied to religion, thank you for your work my friend.
Many people do not understand that Islam is also an Abrahamic religion
despite your gracious comment,you are walking in deception and WILL end up in hell unless you come to faith in Jesus Christ as your savior.Muslims are NOT saved.You can recieve this as an attack but it is a warning and a declaration of Gods truth
@@kirklyles1705 Thank you for your concern but I've been around the block theologically and I'm fairly certain with my decision, I love you for who you are, do I believe that you are not worshipping the almighty as he is meant to be worshipped? Of course. Do I believe that you'll most likely see hellfire on the day of judgement? Of course. The difference between our beliefs is just that; I can recognize that these are my beliefs and that the only entity of decision, truth, forgiveness and judgment is the one true creator, the almighty, the most merciful, the most gracious, alhamdulillah. I appreciate your concern but these types of comments and statements are exactly what sent me away from Christianity. I'm fully aware of what the Bible says and what the church has to offer, but I've found the only thing that i can genuinely say is the continuation of true monotheism; the only theology that is the true continuation of Abraham's (AS) teachings and faith. I understand your concern, yet it is unnecessary; I know on the day of judgement my heart will be weighed and tested, I ask the almighty to have mercy on us all, Allahu Akbar 🛐
Your comment made me smile. I think one thing that any god - Allah or God or any other that someone believes in, are proud when we can live and exist in harmony side by side even with our differences. I believe that war is not what God wants us to do, and sometimes words can sound like someone declaring war on you. I am used to Muslim comments on my profiles telling me that I will suffer, likewise you have here a Christian who comes on quite strong and aggressive underneath your comment. I would just like to say thank you for making me smile, and remember that no matter what religion someone believes in, they can be a good person. I hope you have a blessed life. 😊
@@mathildeolsen2926 Mashallah, thank you my friend I wish the same to you, all love all respect 🤎
i haven't truly smiled in a while. i honestly can't remember the last time i did. your videos changed that today. thank you.
Part of the problem with trying to define “heresy” is that, sometimes, different people use different words to describe something and some people tend to be quite sure anyone is heretical who doesn’t use the exact same words to describe it.
Several times when I was young, my dad advised me, “Read for yourself, study for yourself and think for yourself.” It didn’t take me long to realize that anyone who does that will, sooner or later, be declared heretical. So I save people the trouble of calling me heretical. I call myself that.
I would like to help create an evangelistic association to provide financial support for laity who are trying to encourage people to trust the creator. I don’t want the association to require lay evangelists to affirm a list of doctrines (aka a creed) but this video has been helpful because it has provided me with ideas about how to describe some of the things lay evangelists would not be allowed to teach while they are receiving financial support from the association.
When I saw liberalism I was like "but liberal thought originated from Christian ideas." It's definitely good that you clarified early on.
Conservative ideas also originated from Christian ideas. It is just two different ways of attempting to achieve the same goal.
@@mellowsoundspectrumIf by christian ideas you mean slavery/tyranny (depending on what you consider to be the origin) then yes 😅
@@ezoni8438 ? slavery and tyranny do NOT originate in christianity. wtf are you talking about?
@@ezoni8438you have been deceived and hurt.
@@nicetryfbi438 No i'm talking about the origins of conservative ideology, depending on what your opinion of the origin (France or America) then it was either built off a Tyrannical environment or one with slavery
EDIT : i also forgot to mention that conservatism is directly incompatible with christianity, due to the generally "me first" regressive core of the ideology conflicting with the more communal and worker focused teachings of jesus
Very nice vid! Started watching your vids recently and I really like the topics you talk about.
I didn't know that explaining the trinity in terms of analogies was a heresy! It's done by a lot of Sunday school teachers here in our coptic churches, will be sure to spread the word, thank you.
Man, the lore in this fantasy setting gets pretty complicated, huh?
Epic video! Great towards helping explain the Trinity to people ^^ God Bless ya
I’m just confused at this point
I'm starting to feel like the true heresy here is thinking about Christianity too hard instead of blindly taking what your pastor says at face value 🤷
You can watch again slowly
Jesus was killed for heresy. The heretic they tied to the wood of the stake signifies jesus tied to the wood of the cross.
The extreme pain the heretic suffered signifies the extreme pain Jesus suffered.
The mortification of the flesh of jesus signifies the morification of the flesh of the heretic.
The Pharisees signify the priests. The kings and rulers who oversee the execution signify pontius pilate and the local leaders.
The trial and procession the heretic went through signify the trial and procession Jesus went through.
Jesus said: "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it."
The religion of Christianity is devoted to being a heretic and then being brutally killed for it, thus imitating or mimicking Jesus. That is why it is obsessed with the concept of heresy and is devoted to bashing each other as heretics.
All this is hidden in cryptic demonic ways.
If you are talking about the trinity, just take it as "it is and it isn't". That seems to be the only way to understand it that accounts for the myriad ways that God is Jesus and the Holy Spirit but also not because of such and such.
Being a Christian myself if there’s one thing I learn is that sometimes things can’t be explained with our human ideas and perception of it.
It's only fair to point out that Christianity started out as a Jewish heresy.
Yes, perhaps Judaism is the true religion.
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Beautifully made, thanks so much for this. It explains everything so well. God bless you very much
I’m blessed to have found this channel. The lord keeps showing me the right path.
Your content is incredible! Thank you for sharing!
Ive always had a inquisitive and curious nature about other religions so this helps quite a bit of what is considered a heresy, and I thank you for being one of the few Christian youtubers who don’t add any subjective opinion into other religions like islam. And though its probably my bias speaking as a muslim, I still really do appreciate the work that you do.
I enjoyed this and learned a lot thank you. You have a great way of explaining complicated concepts in an easy to follow way.
So what exactly is the Trinity again
Great video. As a christian , i think that my family isn’t interested enough in learning the old testament, stating that ‘Christ is all you need’. But i think the Old Testament is very important too and i’m really interested to learn more about it i don’t know where to start or how to be spiritually ready to study it
Explain the story of Abraham and Isaac, there are so many tiny details with profound meaning: the ram with his horns tangled in thorns, presented by God as a sacrifice to save from death, for example. It is a truly profound story.
Christianity as a religion ONLY exists due to the earthly life, sacrifice, and resurrection of Jesus, which you can only find from the New Testament.
Therefore, if someone believes that the Old Testament is just as important as the New one, then their religion should be called Reformed Jewish Orthodoxy, not Christianity.
@@martinusv7433 i didn’t say OT is as important as the NT . It’s just someting a christian has to learn from
@@Anjfjgjigul i’ve never heard of this story.i’m reading it thank you
@@elijahmikaelson5319 As is the apocrypha.
Been a believer for 25 years and I'm still learning stuff. Awesome content.
learning from someone's opinion? Interesting.
I an a theologian, and it is not very much I know. Often people who think they know some subject perfectly are the ones who actually know nothing.
I used to be Gnostic. I thank god for pulling me out of that cult.
How is it a cult? No religion dogma no hierarchies and no man to worship. You dont know what a cult is or simply you didnt understand what real gnosticism is about
Christianity is more like a cult then anything else
@@ancientdarkness3102okay chaos worshiper
@@Helis431 why the hate? I just asked a question. Maybe being a "chaos worshipper" would help you with peaceful interactions with other people idk
What were your main beliefs? Many New Age sects or vastly watered-down practices of Gnosticism have gained popularity over the years.
So basically nobody can fully explain the Holy Trinity without commiting some heresy?
I love this channel. It helps me stand stronger in my faith. I thank my math teacher for introducing this channel through the "Arguments of God Explained" video.
@@Mystic879
First of all, I'm not in the United States. I'm in Canada.
Secondly. I go to a Christian school, and the video I was talking about is the "Arguments about God explained" video, not this one.
I might just not have enough back knowledge because im not Christian, but your explanations of the heresy's make a lot more sense than your corrections
the fact that you think that God should make sense to you is already wrong. He works in ways that are simply inconceivable to the human mind.
@@perecipita How can I believe something I don't know or understand?
I don't understand the "corrections" he makes therefore I couldn't even believe in "correct" Christianity if I wanted...
@@Minecraftzocker135 The fact is, the Trinity is a mystery in the religious sense. You can understand that it's not contradictory, but that doesn't mean you have a full understanding of it. And how could we have a perfect understanding of God revealing himself to us? Knowing that God is one is easy, but to know more, the extra step is more difficult. Nothing wrong with that.
But it's not the definition of Trinity that should make you believe in it, it's the Bible as support of revelation and faith. The faith is not an opinion about something you can relate to.
@@Minecraftzocker135 Think of it in a more philosophical way. Could we really call God "God" if the human mind was able to understand the complexities of an eternal being? If we did understand him wouldn't that create us as equals? We cannot understand God in his nature and the exact way he works in since it's incomprehensible. We cannot use worldly thinking/understanding to understand God since he is outside our human nature.
@@fsmayhemmc9570 but what results of your comment?
If I don't understand the "correct" Christianity then I would have to trust someone else to interpret and understand it for me. That might work for catholics but for protestants?
Your Twitter takes bring me a lot of distress, but your videos are very good.
An update on LDS/Mormonism, we simply believe that the scriptures are stating that the God, Jesus, and the holy spirit are one in purpose, not one in being. As the scriptures don't actually ever state that they are one being, only that they are "one", this is a valid interpretation. Its just an interpretation that other churches don't agree with. Afaik though there is nothing in scripture that points to only one being that can't also be interpreted in this way. Its like saying that a husband and wife become one. Marriage doesn't literally make them one being, obviously, but they become one in purpose.
Further update. We also believe in adoptionism, but I would present a different interpretation to you. We believe that god always existed and always will, but not always as a perfected being. Despite that, he was, is, and always will be god. God sees us for our potential, not how we are. He sees us for how we will be, and who we will be, in eternity. He knows that just because we are a sinner now, that that doesnt mean we cannot be redeemed, reformed, and made hole. It is in this sense that adoptionism CAN hold up, because we still believe that God and Jesus did always exist and will continue to always exist and they were always god, even while Jesus was an unorganized intelligence, even before he had a body, even while he was on earth, even after he died, and after his resurrection. He is, was, and will continue to be god, even as his state changes (such as going from a being with no human body, to a living human, to a dead human, to a resurrected human). These changes in state don't change his divinity, therefore we simply also believe that this also holds true when Jesus was yet an unorganized intelligence. I know this dips into a lot of stuff that is unique to mormon beliefs, but my point is that taken as a whole, it logically checks out.
@@thoughtgaming492 There's an issue with God always existing, but not always being perfect. An eternal being is unchanging. A perfect eternal being is always perfect, an imperfect being is always imperfect. The reason for this, is for something to change requires time. Time is apart of creation. God is the creator and not a creation. Thus timeless and eternal.
Personally I don't like using the phrase 'perfect being'. The phrase itself is a judgement and we cannot judge God. So I prefer to call God a righteous being. This helps with rectifying those few passages in the Old Testament where the Father says he displayed regret of specific actions (like creating man, flooding the earth, or making Saul king).
@ I can give a more in depth explanation if you’d like but in short, the atonement erases sin as though it never happened. Because of this, once perfection is achieved, one can say they never were anything but perfect. Any sin was wiped clean and removed from record. Therefore, even if he was once man and became a God, he would never be considered to have ever been anything other than a perfect being. And time is something that god exists outside of, as will we when this mortal life ends and we inherit everything which our father has. We too, fall under this same paradigm according to LDS theology.
@@thoughtgaming492 You bring up a very interesting equation. Once people are brought back for eternal life, all the sin and evil are removed as if they never happened.
The question then is how that actually manifests. But that is where we have many different interpretations.
I'm somewhat familiar with the LDS interpretation and I do thank you for reminding of that, your abridged explanation was sufficient.
@@thoughtgaming492 im also a member of the LDS, what you stated that God was not always perfect is not official doctrine. L&V 20:17 By these things we know that there is a God in heaven, who is infinite and eternal, from everlasting to everlasting the same unchangeable God, the framer of heaven and earth, and all things which are in them; this is official doctrine.
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My hope came true, you really did mention how Santa Clause/St. Nicholas got into an altercation with Arius.
Yes he had a childish temper tantrum and attacked someone just because he had beliefs that weren't exactly like his
@@T.D.F.M Yeah, I’m not condoning it but, the accusations were interesting in light of how St. Nicholas/Santa Clause is depicted in modern day society, especially the depictions found in secular circles.
You got me at Arius was slapped by Santa 🤣
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