Brian Cox - Alien Life & The Dark Forest Hypothesis

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  • Опубліковано 3 бер 2023
  • The renowned physicist and science communicator, Brian Cox delves into the topic of alien life and in particular, the question about intelligent alien civilization.
    With his trademark enthusiasm and engaging style, Brian Cox explores the possibility of extraterrestrial life and why we haven't found any.
    The video starts with a brief overview of what Brian Cox & astronomers call: "The Great Silence". Cox then goes on to explain the Fermi Paradox and the Dark Forest Hypothesis, which suggest that intelligent life may be intentionally avoiding contact with other civilizations to avoid being destroyed.
    Cox uses his expertise in physics and astronomy to explain how alien life may be closer than we think. Like on the surface of the red planet, Mars. He discusses the potential for life to exist in other planets because there are at least 20 billion other earth like planets in our galaxy alone.
    Throughout the video, Cox provides easy-to-understand explanations, making complex scientific concepts accessible to a broad audience.
    Whether you're a science enthusiast or simply curious about the possibility of life beyond Earth, Brian Cox's insights and knowledge are sure to captivate and inform. Don't miss out on this thought-provoking and entertaining exploration of the universe and our place within it.
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    #briancox #aliens #universe
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  • @TacShooter
    @TacShooter 9 місяців тому +409

    Aliens: "Greetings! We send this message in an attitude of peacefulness."
    Us: "Your able to communicate in English?"
    Aliens: "You're"

    • @davidmurphy8364
      @davidmurphy8364 3 місяці тому +11

      😂😂😂😂👏👏

    • @nurlindafsihotang49
      @nurlindafsihotang49 3 місяці тому +6

      Ouch😂

    • @user-xl2ti1dy2g
      @user-xl2ti1dy2g 2 місяці тому +2

      Now THAT'S funny! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

    • @Andromedaxterr
      @Andromedaxterr 2 місяці тому +6

      they speak Polish and latin, ( old Latin which is not spoken any more ) therefore their only option of language as a communication channel is Polski
      BTW, they are exactly 123 light years away and they know everything about us. There are approximately 40 civilizations out there just in the Milky Way

    • @vaishnavnegi9640
      @vaishnavnegi9640 2 місяці тому

      Bobr kurwa?😂​@@Andromedaxterr

  • @mrfishbulb7187
    @mrfishbulb7187 Рік тому +2044

    Just because we haven't found them, doesn't mean they haven't found us.

    • @kiddabiff
      @kiddabiff Рік тому +156

      There's a chance they've seen us from a distance and realised how self destructive we are and left us well alone!

    • @brianruwoldt7422
      @brianruwoldt7422 Рік тому +31

      They found me.

    • @brianruwoldt7422
      @brianruwoldt7422 Рік тому +22

      They found me.

    • @Westrait
      @Westrait Рік тому +53

      We are either late to the party or early I'd like to think

    • @Westrait
      @Westrait Рік тому +16

      @Ian I'd like to think they are waiting for us to evolve more when we reach a point t where we can control time and mass , that is quite a long time and the future is uncertain or we are the only living Intelligent beings ,It is quite rare to have polar and moon perfect alignment some planets spin mach 3 how would anything survive , also perfect aligment with planets that filter meteors and that's just one in million reasons why we might be the only ones

  • @chrishernandez8504
    @chrishernandez8504 10 місяців тому +208

    The fact that we have looked at what is equivalent to a cup of water from the Pacific sea of space and some people throw up their hands like "well we looked in this cup of water of space and found no intelligent life so intelligent life isn't possible " is one of the most insane proposition in science

    • @christopherstewart9874
      @christopherstewart9874 10 місяців тому

      As is considering all of the thousands of UAP sightings as the reports of fools or charlatans because interstellar distances are too great. We now know that the US military believes they are real, and has for decades. We also know they have had disinformation campaigns for decades. Science has a nasty habit of disproving previous theories. There is a reasonable chance that current theories also eventually will be proven to be wrong.

    • @josephjohn4769
      @josephjohn4769 10 місяців тому +7

      Yea I saw that video too

    • @tomcurry3358
      @tomcurry3358 10 місяців тому +13

      Yeah it's an arrogant and stupid way of thinking

    • @Unmaleable
      @Unmaleable 10 місяців тому +3

      The problem with exploring the ocean is the extreme pressure deep under water. Not to mention there are areas underwater we can actually reach that have extreme heat due to the continuous release of magma.

    • @thealexanderbond
      @thealexanderbond 9 місяців тому

      No dude, you've got it the wrong way around.
      When you have the slightest bit of evidence that there is life outside Earth, then you can talk.
      Until then, every single thing you say about alien life is wild speculation based on your own fantasies.
      'But what if, what if, what if, maybe, maybe, maybe' is all I hear.

  • @Greenishprint
    @Greenishprint 6 місяців тому +72

    The way we search for Aliens, not even knowing they are friendly, is absolutely terrifying..

    • @bullveigh2526
      @bullveigh2526 5 місяців тому +11

      Our solar system doesn’t have anything that isn’t abundant elsewhere in the galaxy, so they wouldn’t need the resources. if they do exist and are far more advanced than us they would know exactly how to spot life in the galaxy and would already know that life is here. If they are on the same civilization scale as us then maybe its better to find them first ;) our first contacts throughout our history have gone well, No? :)

    • @-o-8862
      @-o-8862 5 місяців тому

      @@bullveigh2526 so wrong, our sun is stable.
      our planet is livable with water and oxygen, maybe our planets in the milky way are good for harvesting certain materials
      think of any other species we live with, ants pigs cows.
      we disregard their needs for our own at anytime.
      they'd do the same.

    • @tremors536
      @tremors536 5 місяців тому +3

      We’re looking for the Vulcans but what happens when we find the Borg 🧐

    • @FoulBundy
      @FoulBundy 5 місяців тому

      we klingon and get data@@tremors536

    • @sws212
      @sws212 4 місяці тому

      @@bullveigh2526 That assumes we understand what they need or even have the technology to determine that something we have is what they need or our planet / system is on the same scale of their resource consumption. The tech they have could require galaxy level adjustment. Even if we have no significant resource, they could eliminate us in order to prevent others from using us as slaves or we're seen as so far beneath them, some sadist sees humans as animals to play around with.

  • @arron911
    @arron911 Рік тому +1276

    It's wild to think that even if a signal was sent at the speed of light from an advanced civilisation a million light years a way, by the time we receive it, that same civilisation could have been extinct for hundreds of thousands of years.

    • @nickterrett6613
      @nickterrett6613 Рік тому +37

      luckily Einstein produced a theory where time travel is possible..apparantly its much easier to go backwards rather than forwards but its very possible.

    • @BrodyCanuck
      @BrodyCanuck Рік тому +71

      @@nickterrett6613 Sadly a theory doesn't mean reality until proven.

    • @nickterrett6613
      @nickterrett6613 Рік тому +27

      @@BrodyCanuck so the theory of realitivity is bs aswell..its only a theory BECAUSE it cant be proven with todays tech..doesnt mean its some crazy idea..it actually fits like a glove within quantum physics.

    • @BrodyCanuck
      @BrodyCanuck Рік тому +9

      @@nickterrett6613 But that tech would also be a theory since it would exist today if it could be made.

    • @kaoskronostyche9939
      @kaoskronostyche9939 Рік тому +89

      @@nickterrett6613 I think you are incorrect on that one. Einstein provided three ways to go faster forward in time but going back in time violates the First Law of Thermodynamics and the Second Law as well, I think.
      I saw a great documentary with Stephen Hawking in which they addressed going backward in time.

  • @sagan1976
    @sagan1976 Рік тому +543

    The way the Dark Forest is presented in Lin Cixiu's books is amazing.

    • @michelangelo3617
      @michelangelo3617 Рік тому +58

      some of the best sci fi of our time

    • @SINISTERfromHELL
      @SINISTERfromHELL Рік тому +19

      Yeah, I'm 250 pages in the end of death. Absolutely love it.

    • @michaelstevens9256
      @michaelstevens9256 Рік тому +45

      Best sci di trilogy I’ve ever read. Mind still fully blown several years afterwards

    • @ashleysmith1276
      @ashleysmith1276 Рік тому +10

      Honestly I found the books really difficult to listen to, possibly because the names of characters are so different to what I am used to. I only got as far as the first 3rd of the 2nd book. Maybe I need to read them instead...

    • @undomondo
      @undomondo Рік тому +13

      @@ashleysmith1276 it’s been hard for me to remember chinese names as well, however i was reading it, and got used to it. so you’re right! don’t let this get in the way, because this book is seminal

  • @KennethEvans-uf7hc
    @KennethEvans-uf7hc Рік тому +58

    "it could be that we're the only island of meaning in an ocean of 400 billion suns." I love how scientists and science can be so effortlessly poetic and beautiful without trying.

    • @user-xl2ti1dy2g
      @user-xl2ti1dy2g 2 місяці тому

      Scientists are allowed to dream too.

    • @flix1179
      @flix1179 Місяць тому

      bro thats philosophy

    • @user-xl2ti1dy2g
      @user-xl2ti1dy2g Місяць тому

      @@flix1179 but philosophy stands as the BASIS d ALL:: intellectual disciplines as PRESUPPOSITIONS

  • @deis.w
    @deis.w 10 місяців тому +164

    Given how long it can take for complex life to form, another possibility is that alien civilisations could be about as old as our own. In this case, we both only started looking out into space very recently. It's like placing 2 people on the opposite side of an empty earth for 2 minutes and asking them why they haven't found each other yet.
    Edit: I said it's one POSSIBILITY out of millions and billions of other possibilities.

    • @ebilo6
      @ebilo6 10 місяців тому +14

      Not really , different conditions couldve made them get to intelligent life forms in half the time, that would put them 2 billions year before us. We fucked around as single cell for billions of years.

    • @ItsDesm
      @ItsDesm 9 місяців тому +10

      This right here. Many people don't contemplate the timing aspect and also how long signals take to travel all those light years.
      Even if there is life broadcasting out there at this moment, we might not receive their signals for hundreds or thousands of years

    • @TheRusty
      @TheRusty 9 місяців тому

      @@ebilo6 What do you mean "fucked around"? Unicellular life is the dominant and most pervasive form of life in every ecosystem - including a great number of ecosystems that are ONLY microbial. It is clearly a hugely successful mode of life, and there's no reason to think that multicellular life is some sort of inevitability. Remember, there is no "forward march of progress" in biology. Biologically, you are simply a habitat for the 3 pounds of bacteria, yeasts, and protists that call you home.

    • @UrbanRonin35
      @UrbanRonin35 9 місяців тому +11

      @@ebilo6he said it was a possibility, not a guarantee. Can you read things more Thoroughly before responding maybe?

    • @Timinem
      @Timinem 9 місяців тому +3

      The milkyway is like 11billion years old (?) so you’d think there would be at least a few detectable civilizations.

  • @baronvonhoughton
    @baronvonhoughton Рік тому +162

    Vast distances, the limited speed of light, extremely specific stable conditions, and our own lack of ability to reach/message even nearby stars, all easily explain the Fermi paradox for me.

    • @stalwartzero7001
      @stalwartzero7001 Рік тому +2

      Speed of light is the boundary of or RAM

    • @airfu3ion284
      @airfu3ion284 Рік тому +8

      But what about the speed of dark ^^

    • @timcoleman8297
      @timcoleman8297 Рік тому

      THE Fermi paradox has been completely debunked. Its old hat. Just because we haven't figured out how to travel faster than the speed of light doesnt mean a civilisation a thousand years ahead of us hasn't. Thats so obvious. I just dont get why the likes of Cox cant grasp it. Get a grip man. You are so far behind the curve you should just be fired from the BBC.

    • @blogattacker
      @blogattacker Рік тому +17

      The extremely stable conditions is overstated by some researchers, but not by all. We have received apocalyptic meteorites several times in prehistoric histpry and, according to some theories about the great extinctions, direct hits of gamma rays, that erased the atmospheric layers for several years. But life has shown that is very plastic, where a few microorganisms can survive at the bottom of a sea, life comes back and re adapts. A paradox about life is that it requires unstable conditions to generate the primordial elements.

    • @bensolo7217
      @bensolo7217 Рік тому +7

      @@blogattacker very true. Then again, perhaps it's these unpredictable series of cataclysmic events that provided the most unlikely conditions being met to allow for us eventually.
      Maybe life is actually abundant in single cell form and the mutations that got primordial us out of the water is mind numbingly unlikely.

  • @jmlaw8888
    @jmlaw8888 Рік тому +198

    I personally look at it as seperately picking two people anywhere on earth throughout the history of human civilization and expect them to meet eachother - only ridiculously more difficult.
    What are the odds that they will be born within the right timeframe and distance and with the ability to actually meet? If there is life out there its likely died before us, will live after us or if actually alive now is so far away we will both be gone before we could ever make contact.

    • @andrzejjaniak6849
      @andrzejjaniak6849 Рік тому +9

      Well said. That's exactly my line of reasoning.

    • @nocturnalrecluse1216
      @nocturnalrecluse1216 Рік тому +15

      You got it, my guy!! Aliens exist, but they also do not exist because we live in separate time planes. That's how vast space is.

    • @nickterrett6613
      @nickterrett6613 Рік тому +5

      all above relevant if excluding time travel..which Einstein himself said is theoretically possible..only needs to be a civilization say 1000 years more advanced than us..reality is there are probably 1000's of civilizations potentially millions of years more advanced..time travel would be simplistic to such species.

    • @malphadour
      @malphadour Рік тому +5

      Nailed it. Brian Cox has spoken at length about this and it is his favourite theory. There may be numerous other civilisations in the galaxy, but time is so vast, that it would be easy for one to exist for a million years and never see or hear another one. He relates Fermi to Drake and explains why this is a very likely conclusion.

    • @drewwar9344
      @drewwar9344 Рік тому +2

      Well let's apply that logic to us we are constantly searching for life elsewhere and multiple generations have been looking for alien life so if you apply that to your scenario the likelihood gets higher In your scenario we would be one person actively searching for the other and that other person would have Signs that they are the ones we are looking for

  • @hushingsilence
    @hushingsilence 9 місяців тому +78

    I think it's pretty damn special to live in a universe on a planet at a time when Brian Cox is alive to share his knowledge and enthusiasm. 🥰

    • @Poopdeck1015
      @Poopdeck1015 9 місяців тому +6

      He's a brilliant scientist, but being unable to think away from conventional wisdom and theorem is a little concerning. There is another 9 billion years of the existence of the universe, and Cox fails to consider that non-terrestrial life may have formed within that time. They may not be dependent on the needs we have either.

    • @JayBird-zc4kh
      @JayBird-zc4kh 9 місяців тому +2

      He's not that brilliant

    • @davidcross8028
      @davidcross8028 8 місяців тому +1

      Lol.....!

    • @jonsegerros
      @jonsegerros 2 місяці тому

      for real. hes a hack@@JayBird-zc4kh

    • @SauronTheDarkLordOfMordor
      @SauronTheDarkLordOfMordor 2 місяці тому

      ​@JayBird-zc4khyou sound like a loooser

  • @realsatoshihashimoto
    @realsatoshihashimoto 9 місяців тому +209

    "There are 2 possibilities. Either we are alone in the universe or we are not. And either possibility is equally terrifying."
    - Arthur C. Clarke

    • @Madtil
      @Madtil 9 місяців тому +8

      I think if we are alone it actualy isnt that scary. If humanity doesnt destroy itself and we have millions of years time we could become the gods of this universe and create other life ourselvs.

    • @Robodude_0528
      @Robodude_0528 9 місяців тому +7

      If we’re here then something else is here too. There’s just no two ways about it. I like to presume that what ever else is out there is more strange than we could imagine.

    • @hzhang1228
      @hzhang1228 9 місяців тому +5

      we could be the bad guys in those alien invasion movies, maybe we will be what aliens fear.

    • @realsatoshihashimoto
      @realsatoshihashimoto 9 місяців тому +4

      @@Robodude_0528 It would be a terrible waste of space if we were the only intelligent, conscious beings in this vast universe, that's for sure. I agree there's sure to be something else out there, but perhaps separated from us so far in space & time that for all practical purposes we may as well be alone...

    • @Blakkrazor69
      @Blakkrazor69 9 місяців тому

      Humans are not alone just insufferably dim and violent making the idea of approaching such a species difficult at best. They are a disjointed species incapable of cooperation without the threat of violence...completely incompatible for Cosmic Society.

  • @troubadour723
    @troubadour723 Рік тому +274

    To think how unique we might be in the galaxy and yet how self-destructive we are is extremely depressing.

    • @kevinac4397
      @kevinac4397 Рік тому +8

      If that is the explanation for our loneliness than yes, very depressing

    • @Larrymh07
      @Larrymh07 Рік тому +19

      Whether we evolved or created, our conundrum is we have acquired space age technology while still mired in our stone age morality towards each other.

    • @landotucker
      @landotucker Рік тому +18

      We're tribalistic, selfish and short-sighted. I don't have a lot of hope for us as a species and I expect we'll make earth uninhabitable before we develop the technology to get off it in any significant numbers

    • @AndyP1212u
      @AndyP1212u Рік тому +7

      Let's hope the aliens give us a good Shake up, also hoping our leaders get a grip it's about we started acting as one species together on our one planet

    • @meesterdinglefritz2064
      @meesterdinglefritz2064 Рік тому +6

      If we’re so self destructive, why are we still here?

  • @dennishrmn1
    @dennishrmn1 Рік тому +22

    I don't think there's anyway possible that we are alone. The size of the universe is inconceivable, in the amount of planets orbiting suns seems almost endless.

    • @iamdihan
      @iamdihan 6 місяців тому +12

      We might be not alone but distances to other planets and galaxies are so vast we may never make contact. Also we are extremly fortunate to have developed as intelligent life forms, the Dinosaurs were around for nearly 10 times as long and never needed to get to space or make a single transmission. Maybe most of these habitable planets are animal like creatures.

    • @HNCTECH
      @HNCTECH Місяць тому +1

      Yet, we don't have any evidence for any other life. We can conclude that there are no other life beside us, untill proven otherwise.

    • @Malitubee
      @Malitubee 29 днів тому +1

      @@HNCTECH Pretty sure that’s what the alien on Planet Zebulon is saying about us

  • @sandrewss92
    @sandrewss92 9 місяців тому +3

    Brian Cox could put you in a youtube coma for hours listening to him he's fantastic at simplifying science for us.

  • @EFCDKZ
    @EFCDKZ Рік тому +436

    The dark forest theory is funny to me. I can just imagine other civilisations wondering why we want to be found so much and are just shaking their heads at us knowing we’re gonna get extinguished 😂

    • @exerciseforidiots2296
      @exerciseforidiots2296 Рік тому +1

      “Look at those dumb shits…”😂😂😂

    • @rohacha9iin40
      @rohacha9iin40 Рік тому +1

      Makes me think how some METI people are either suicidal or psychopaths

    • @wearywanderer1912
      @wearywanderer1912 Рік тому +47

      Maybe this behavior causes the impression we're confident therefore superior (even though we're not) so they'll never try to mess with us. 🤣

    • @octoslut
      @octoslut Рік тому +12

      @@wearywanderer1912 lol no true at all, they can easily look at your technological level and see how far behind(inferior) we are.

    • @__Tazzzo
      @__Tazzzo Рік тому +52

      @@octoslut Technological levels could be a shitty way to judge a civilization. We have advanced pretty well in just the last 100 years. In my view we have devolved 1,000 years culturally because of it.

  • @Chimera_166
    @Chimera_166 Рік тому +25

    Brian is so enthusiastic and over the top happy when it comes to these things

    • @thebodybagman577
      @thebodybagman577 3 місяці тому

      I wonder how happy he is knowing sooner or later we're all going to come across this...?
      ua-cam.com/play/PLnrEt2fIdZ0aBgPuVF0C_T559YR20eDTc.html&si=NcgTAojzEe0odakc
      ua-cam.com/play/PLHPYLgNK6VlihAkcPT2nPhhUC2Dc4rkJD.html&si=1NPt2q_UBS5nfZKn

    • @user-xl2ti1dy2g
      @user-xl2ti1dy2g 2 місяці тому

      Maybe he's just out of this world?

  • @Samurai78420
    @Samurai78420 6 місяців тому

    I could listen to this guy for hours. Love it.

  • @romino23
    @romino23 Рік тому +3

    01:34 It took humans nearly 4 billion yrs to become who they are, that's the third of the age of the universe... mind blown.

  • @gabriellecunningham7196
    @gabriellecunningham7196 Рік тому +45

    The absolutely mind-blowing concepts presented so succinctly for mere mortals like me by Dr. Brian Cox and Co. are so very much appreciated.
    Cheers from Melbourne 🇦🇺

    • @novacula
      @novacula Рік тому +1

      We're all mortals here Gabrielle.

    • @leofromfive2seven131
      @leofromfive2seven131 9 місяців тому

      Yeah same here. Have just recently discovered Brian and am a big fan 👍
      Cheers from Jupiter

  • @Jansen33
    @Jansen33 Рік тому +20

    Planets evolve so much over millions of years. The distance between us and other planets plus the multitudes of variables evolving those planets make contact and space travel so incredibly difficult.

    • @bigboicreme
      @bigboicreme Рік тому

      Big distances. Holy crap I just thought about how big the milky way is 🫥🫥

    • @jackwilson5542
      @jackwilson5542 10 місяців тому +1

      It may be simple, humans on this Earth just don't have the technology yet. A type 2 or higher civilization may have instant communication network, so looking for radio waves could be like cavemen looking for smoke signals from aliens.

  • @williammore558
    @williammore558 Місяць тому +1

    Just because we're unable to find alien intelligence out there in the vastness of space using current technology doesn't mean there's nobody out there. Going back a few decades, we weren't even aware of how many habitable planets within our own galaxy are out there and, fast forward, we're now aware there are billions of planets with such potential. A small sample using Kepler already harvested some interesting targets and with Webb the opportunities are even more tantalising with one target already considered as having life.

  • @PhecdaPlato
    @PhecdaPlato 9 місяців тому +5

    Love Brian Cox ❤ he’s a Rock Star on so many levels ❤

  • @robpegler6545
    @robpegler6545 Рік тому +22

    If we're the only civilization in the universe, that either makes us incredibly important or incredibly insignificant, depending on how you look at it.

    • @sandrafaith
      @sandrafaith 10 місяців тому +1

      And both are equally scary.

    • @sangyedorje
      @sangyedorje 10 місяців тому +1

      Good point

    • @TheBanana93
      @TheBanana93 10 місяців тому

      Scary? Its liberating lol@@sandrafaith

    • @Patricknab
      @Patricknab 3 місяці тому

      agreed even aliens doesnt look beautiful like us it's mean god create us very special and unique

    • @alelirivarola1197
      @alelirivarola1197 2 місяці тому

      Important to who? What is our contribution to the cosmos as a civilization? I think if we are alone, we are insignificant, period.

  • @nightblade628
    @nightblade628 Рік тому +47

    It’s like waking up in your pitch black room one night, waving your arms around, and concluding that based on the fact that you didn’t touch anyone it must mean you’re the only person on earth. Ignoring the fact that a dozen people could be in the room with you but you can’t see them, and the fact that outside your house there’s 8 billion other people going about their lives completely oblivious of your existence as well.
    Imagine one day we discover a new form of communication, like how we went from talking one day to radio communication the next. And we discover that the universe is FULL of this kind of communication, we just couldn’t hear it before. Civilisations begging for help, fighting… the dying screams as one after the other, *something* suddenly silences them. Then we realise it’s heard us too and is on its way.

    • @user-xl2ti1dy2g
      @user-xl2ti1dy2g 2 місяці тому +1

      No, but it DOES mean that your are alone in BED!! 🤩🤣🤣😂😂

  • @dealwolfstriked272
    @dealwolfstriked272 Рік тому +2

    3:05 you go back only 15 or 20 years we only knew about our solar system.We believed that it was possible that all the other stars could have a solar system but now we know.Amazing words

  • @JPayne95
    @JPayne95 Рік тому +15

    If humans stumbled across a planet full of life that we deemed to be of lesser intelligence, would we make ourselves known or would we study from a distance and use what we can get?

    • @Alexander_Kale
      @Alexander_Kale 10 місяців тому

      I mean, consider for a second the implications of what you just suggested.
      1) In our society, observation without consent is very much a crime. Espionage between nations is very much a necessary evil. If a government agent wants to read your emails, he needs to justify that before the law, and in order to do that, he needs to show credible proof that you harbour hostile intent.
      You are effectively suggesting that future humanity of yours to do that. Spy on people. For thousands of years. Unsupervised. Without justification. Without asking for consent.
      2) Imagine the knowledge and power such a future humanity holds. They would have incredible understanding of biology and physics. For all intends and purposes, if they are capable of interstellar travel, they can produce infinite amounts of energy.
      Would you really consider it ethical for such a species to sit back and watch as their objects of study engage in bloody wars for limited ressources?
      WOuld you consider it ethical and good for such a species to watch as their subjects struggle to deal with climate change, when you could give them access to unlimited, cheap, clean energy?
      Would you consider it ethical for such a species to sit by and watch as those people in their ant farm die in the thousands to diseases that you would consider preventable, when you could very easily mass produce cures for any and all of them?
      3) Finally, imagine the cosmic joke. SOmeone on that planet looks up into the sky, wondering if they are alone. If there are other species out there, somewhere across the ocean of space.
      Meanwhile, your future humanity is sitting behind their stealth fields, laughing at him while they wave.

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor 10 місяців тому +2

      do we study chicken, insects, and other animals from a distance?

    • @JPayne95
      @JPayne95 10 місяців тому

      @Dave_of_Mordor from our perspective, no. But that's why you're never going to see beyond because you can't look at their perspectives. Does an ant know that it's being watched? Are fish aware of world outside of the oceans?

    • @Alexander_Kale
      @Alexander_Kale 10 місяців тому

      @@Dave_of_Mordor You do realize that ants are not people, yes?

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor 10 місяців тому

      @@JPayne95 you cannot claim these perspective are true because you don't know how and what ants or fish think.

  • @therantingboy
    @therantingboy Рік тому +21

    Can't it just be that space is massive and there's aliens as advanced as us or more advanced but they haven't left their galaxy or visited us? Why is that so hard to imagine?

    • @qwizdom3873
      @qwizdom3873 Рік тому +2

      You’re right, it is not hard to imagine. In fact it’s primitive. Do you stop at your every first version of an idea?

    • @danielm5161
      @danielm5161 Рік тому +1

      @d We'd have to line up with another intelligent civilization in space and time though. It's a narrow window.

    • @tomwilko7841
      @tomwilko7841 Рік тому +1

      ​@d there's plenty of (conspiracy) theories that our current civilization and it's entire history is far from the first one on our planet, I don't subscribe to these ideas, I have a friend who lives for this stuff, for some reason circa13,000bc is hugely important to these guys...i don't know I rarely look at his recommendations😅, but I've seen enough to say I can honestly believe that if the worst was to happen to us, there are many ways in which all trace of our existence could be evaporated in many different ways...so it's not definite that vanquished/failed civilisations leave megastructures, or any structures for that matter, behind when they die, when you think about the huge timeframes involved it becomes easier to believe...hell we may not be the first human civilisation on earth and we'll never know

    • @procta2343
      @procta2343 9 місяців тому

      @@danielm5161 yeah its about distance, say we confirm there is another planet like ours in the neighbouring system. We would have to set up some sort of relay, signal booster station, every few points. So it would line up with them at some point. Even then we would still get a delay.

  • @fozzy20
    @fozzy20 Рік тому +131

    Always reminds me of what Arthur C Clarke said in relation to life beyond Earth. There are 1 of 2 things definately true in the univserse and they are both equally as terrifying.
    We're either alone in the universe or we are not.

    • @chili_phil
      @chili_phil Рік тому +4

      That was a pearl of a statement! Love it

    • @timcoleman8297
      @timcoleman8297 Рік тому

      We are not and they are busy monitoring us. FACT.

    • @reesetwist2290
      @reesetwist2290 Рік тому +4

      Fire quote

    • @cfrandre8319
      @cfrandre8319 Рік тому +1

      @@reesetwist2290 Remember it.

    • @Mike-tv9rk
      @Mike-tv9rk Рік тому

      I just paraphrased that above. Its looking more and more likely! And it also means that Donald trump was the supreme leader of the universe at one point. We have no plan except to consume our entire planet ! Welcome to Conservative/republican politics. Eat, drink, vacation, Luxury drive. Check out with money and a dead planet legacy. Good job rich folk., and excellent work. Nice pyramid pension scheme for y’all. Wankers

  • @Wis_Dom
    @Wis_Dom Рік тому +123

    The terrifying part of about being a rare unique accident that sparked complex life out of 400 billion planets is that... we can't get along.

    • @BobbyHickey
      @BobbyHickey Рік тому +5

      Most constantly miss what makes Earth so special. Diversity of life.

    • @Jafmanz
      @Jafmanz Рік тому +6

      Look at all nature on earth! it is simply a fight for survival!
      Humans however like all life does to a certain extent 'get along' very nicely indeed! in fact humanity 'gets along' better than most which is one of the reason we have surpassed the limitations of our biospheres imperatives.
      Our 'getting along' is what has accelerated our development... (among other things)
      It's not terrifying at all but empowering and magnificent!

    • @Jafmanz
      @Jafmanz Рік тому +2

      @@Wis_Dom
      How is my comment prideful?
      How to my comment mean I express a very high opinion of my self?
      Pride comes before the fall? THE fall?
      The book of proverbs really states quite clearly that wisdom and modesty are to be preferred over pride and wealth....
      preferred...
      there is no arrogance or overconfidence in my post.
      I urge you before you begin engaging in complex topics about life to first study the English language....
      Is English your first language?

    • @Aegmog
      @Aegmog Рік тому +1

      How do you know life is unique to Earth without checking the other 400 billion planets?
      We haven't checked 0.0001% yet, and still haven't even explored our oceans 😅
      This is similar as saying Earth is at the centre of the universe.

    • @Aegmog
      @Aegmog Рік тому

      ​@@Jafmanz human civilization has been, for millennia, at constant war with each other separated by small periods of peace.

  • @Anfield_the_place_to_be
    @Anfield_the_place_to_be Місяць тому

    After seeing (and reading) 3 body problem, my feed is full of theese videos,,, and i love it👽

  • @BrianHartman
    @BrianHartman Рік тому +5

    Imagine you drop a 10-foot circumference boulder in the Atlantic Ocean from 100 feet up, off the coast of France. Would you expect to be able to detect the waves the boulder makes in New York City?
    I think that's the problem we're dealing with: There's just a lot of space out there, and the signals we're looking for are small.

    • @MT________
      @MT________ 9 місяців тому

      I like your analogy! I also don't get why even scientist act so suprised by not having seen any traces of alien presence when the size and age of the universe are just such big numbers. I guess all humans can't comprehend these vast numbers.

  • @paulaneph3257
    @paulaneph3257 Рік тому +42

    Love Brian Cox!! He makes such complex things so simple to understand

  • @markcarey67
    @markcarey67 Рік тому +15

    The Dark Forest hypothesis was invented by Liu Cixin one of the best science fiction writers in the history of humanity

    • @ZombieMutt
      @ZombieMutt Рік тому +9

      No it isn't. He borrowed it and applied it to his works. It originates with David Brin.

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ZombieMutt David Brin took that idea from me

  • @S.H.A.D.O.999
    @S.H.A.D.O.999 9 місяців тому

    This was fascinating, thank you!

  • @ronnasteele8316
    @ronnasteele8316 10 місяців тому

    When I was little my dad worked on the Sojourner Mars Lander. He brought home a piece of it... so it away my energy signature already there!!!
    Blessings!!!

  • @stephenbrooks733
    @stephenbrooks733 Рік тому +8

    Imagine we received a message back saying..' be quiet they'll hear you'

    • @Grombrindal91
      @Grombrindal91 27 днів тому

      In the 3 body problem series aliens respond back with “do not respond, do not respond, do not respond”.

  • @AsifAAli
    @AsifAAli Рік тому +73

    I'm an alien, and I approve this message.

    • @wilhelmw3455
      @wilhelmw3455 Рік тому +5

      And me too !!!

    • @fanatamon
      @fanatamon Рік тому +5

      You Politicians should stay out of this.

    • @AsifAAli
      @AsifAAli Рік тому +3

      @@fanatamon My dear sweet child, that's what we do, it's what we live for. 😏

    • @drjojo5551
      @drjojo5551 Рік тому +1

      Ok Al Eean!!!! First of all…..this is our planet…our home!!! This is not some galactical NUDIST COLONY!!!!! Get some clothes on!!!!

    • @AsifAAli
      @AsifAAli Рік тому

      @@drjojo5551 You don't say the same on those other tube sites though... you rather have them with their clothes off, so why pretending to be all holy here? And, your planet? Hehehehehehee... you were cultivated here, just like humans were cultivated on Mars. You're a mere crop waiting to be harvested. Muahahahahaa... 😈😈

  • @davidktd
    @davidktd 9 місяців тому +6

    After reading The 3 Body Problem I subscribe wholeheartedly to the Dark Forest hypothesis. I do believe that we’ve been “visited” by ET’s but that they hold a similar outlook to us. We should, however, be extremely careful about how we advertise ourselves in the universe

    • @jamesn0va
      @jamesn0va 9 місяців тому

      I approve of your love for fiction but it's silly to suggest the hypothesis has any real merit. Given the resources we would investigate every oxygen rich atmosphere we could. The notion of the dark forest only works when one can hide all there influance form the universe and that's simply impossible.

    • @davidktd
      @davidktd 9 місяців тому +1

      @@jamesn0va no, not necessarily. It doesn’t go hand in hand that oxygen rich planets have life. That is not something we have to keep hidden. We should, however, be careful in transmissions that narrow down our locations.

    • @spencerhopkinson9874
      @spencerhopkinson9874 4 місяці тому

      @@davidktd too late.

  • @WhalesOfWallStreet
    @WhalesOfWallStreet Рік тому +2

    Contact is my favourite sci-fi film. Can’t believe how long ago it came out

    • @alexpowers5117
      @alexpowers5117 2 місяці тому

      What did you think of the arrival 1996 with Charlie sheen

    • @WhalesOfWallStreet
      @WhalesOfWallStreet 2 місяці тому

      I saw that quite recently, very cool@@alexpowers5117

  • @JoseAlvarado-nl4pi
    @JoseAlvarado-nl4pi Рік тому +30

    I remember reading a comment that describes that the universe is like a boiling pot of water. The bubbles in the boiling pot are civilizations popping in and out of existence and that’s why we can’t find anything. And I agree with that. I think that civilizations just die out before having the means to travel between stars

    • @globextradingsystemsllc1740
      @globextradingsystemsllc1740 Рік тому

      What about the thousands of Authentic UFOs,UAPs the military admits now. They're already here,dummy. We don't see anything???

    • @atimetraveler4910
      @atimetraveler4910 Рік тому +7

      I truly believe actual interstellar travel is just impossible.

    • @globextradingsystemsllc1740
      @globextradingsystemsllc1740 Рік тому +3

      @@atimetraveler4910 Impossible for your brain capacity to understand how it's accomplished. Science,math we created and Einstein got us stuck in the mud of progress.

    • @atimetraveler4910
      @atimetraveler4910 Рік тому

      @@globextradingsystemsllc1740 progress where? Wheres this progress? We haven't even gone to mars yet or are even close to doing that yet. Also stop being one of those "I believe anythings" possible. Interstellar travel has hundreds of problems and even small paradoxes. Won't ever be done.

    • @globextradingsystemsllc1740
      @globextradingsystemsllc1740 Рік тому

      @@atimetraveler4910 Hundreds of problems for you and most mediocraties. The limitations you believe are limitations in thinking way out of the box ,and a step away from Einstein. What about dark energy? 😉.
      If the big bang was truly understood in its context ,then the fabric of space can travel at millions of times faster than light.Expansion was quite fast.Dummy up.

  • @faulypi
    @faulypi Рік тому +5

    It’s just that the Universe is so large that it’s almost impossible to pick up signals from anywhere else unless they were specifically designed to be so powerful as to be picked up at astronomical or intergalactic distances.

  • @alphillips5478
    @alphillips5478 10 місяців тому +2

    Well, the recent Congress (July 2023) on UAP's would suggest different!
    I hope you all watched

  • @dennyworthington6641
    @dennyworthington6641 5 місяців тому +1

    I recently read the book "Rare Earth: Why Complex Life is Uncommon in the Universe" by Ward and Brownlee. The authors contend that simple, single-cell life, such as bacteria, is likely quit common in the universe, but more complex multi-cellular life may be exceedingly rare and so-called "intelligent life" (whatever that means) would be rarer still. Excellent, thought-provoking book for those interested in the subject. Spoiler alert: Don't hold your breath waiting for that signal from outer space.

  • @wmwastle
    @wmwastle Рік тому +78

    Just because we haven't found them doesn't mean they aren't there.
    I cannot believe we are alone.

    • @abraham_1997
      @abraham_1997 Рік тому

      The name of movie pls

    • @randar1969
      @randar1969 Рік тому +1

      I do , logic tells me if intelligence is easy to create, we should have seen it by now since they can have headstart and be millions if not billions of years further then us. With our current 'speeds' even with robotic craft we can visit the entire milky way galaxy in around 100-200 million years. The Universe can create planets like us for far longer then that alteast 10000 million years.

    • @tmgn7588
      @tmgn7588 Рік тому +6

      @@randar1969 Literally ignoring so many factors. Why would we visit the entire milky way in a rush? A human could have easily walked from South Africa to South America (when the Bridge was still there), yet it took thousands of years. And if intelligence is too easy to create, there won't be enough oil to power an industrial revolution. If intelligent life tends to stay in the ocean, this doesn't favour electronics which right now is the only thing we could use to conclude an exo-planet has intelligent life.

    • @tr3vk4m
      @tr3vk4m Рік тому +3

      @@abraham_1997 Contact 1997

    • @keenfire8151
      @keenfire8151 Рік тому +6

      @@tmgn7588 Correct. But I just wanted to say one doesn't need oil to be a successful space faring civilization. That's just the route we happen to go down because those materials are the easiest for us to extract and manipulate. We have to think of the possibility that not all elements in the universe made it to Earth. There could be ways of travelling the universe we can't even fathom, simply because we don't have the elements here to even understand the physics.

  • @steved5356
    @steved5356 Рік тому +4

    Given the vast distances involved and the vast time for signals to travel it, plus all the other noise going on in universe, I suspect any signal will be impossibly weak and practically impossible to detect. In any case, we can never see back beyond a certain point as time always marches forward, and we cannot yet see beyond the cosmic microwave background. It’s like sitting in the middle of ocean, where you can only see a small area of sea around you (that analogy breaks down because that is caused by curvature of planet).

  • @DP-cd5wr
    @DP-cd5wr 9 місяців тому +2

    I’ve always thought the probability of sentient life developing is roughly equivalent to the size of the universe. Unfortunately we don’t know how life actually occurs and hence can’t work out an accurate probability.

  • @TheDevilsAccountant
    @TheDevilsAccountant 9 місяців тому +5

    Intelligent life deciding to not contact us is what makes them Intelligent.

  • @blanckieification
    @blanckieification Рік тому +24

    The way I see is: If they are more advanced and capable of making contact, you can compare it with making contact with gorilla's. We mostly let them live and if we want to study them we do it from a safe distance.

    • @doobiedoo3302
      @doobiedoo3302 Рік тому +7

      Exactly if I was an alien and saw hairless apes with nuclear weapons constantly at war with each other destroying the planet I would keep my distance too.

    • @ccsz888
      @ccsz888 Рік тому

      The difference is gorillas and other animals know about our existence

  • @mollybell5779
    @mollybell5779 Рік тому +21

    Just wow, seriously. Checking out ancient dried up lake beds on Mars, and I didn't know there was *that* much water on Europa. Great stuff! Thank you

    • @ScienceTime24
      @ScienceTime24  Рік тому +5

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @hongo3870
      @hongo3870 Рік тому +3

      Uranus and Neptune have oceans of methane water slush, too. Down to the rocky core deep

    • @grem6966
      @grem6966 Рік тому +4

      basically the entire volume of the moon aside from the crust and the core is water

    • @mollybell5779
      @mollybell5779 Рік тому

      @@grem6966 wow! I didn't even know there was any water on the moon at all, but after a little research, sure enough! Thank you.

    • @bigboicreme
      @bigboicreme Рік тому +1

      ​@@grem6966 is it drinkable?

  • @cpk313
    @cpk313 9 місяців тому

    Thanks Brian! 3:49am and you've scared the shit out of me!

  • @alien4422
    @alien4422 Рік тому +1

    Cox is one of my favourite comedians.

  • @daveincorp
    @daveincorp Рік тому +15

    "It could be, we're the only Island of meaning in a Ocean of 400 billion Suns" 😢 B-E-Autiful quote

    • @GordKapasky
      @GordKapasky Рік тому +1

      Already quoted it.🧐

    • @daveincorp
      @daveincorp Рік тому +1

      @@GordKapasky lol yes sir officer

  • @sgtflashback5442
    @sgtflashback5442 Рік тому +4

    What irks me about the dark forest is this: we already sent out a heap of radio signals, heck even intentional information about us and our location along with a friendly greeting. We did this out of naive trust in technical and societal advance and a sense of final frontier star trekish enthusiasm..
    Why should we be the only idiots to have done this and everyone else intuitively chose to stay hidden as best as possible?

  • @Stiffdistantandweird
    @Stiffdistantandweird 9 місяців тому

    Peter F Hamilton uses this hypothesis as the basis of seriously great books while bringing in panspermia. Highly recommended

  • @edubblesspirit
    @edubblesspirit 9 місяців тому +2

    The hardest part about looking is that we have no idea what we’re looking for.

  • @Roadman1000
    @Roadman1000 Рік тому +10

    The dark forest theory is pretty terrifying. Lord knows what matter of scary, incredibly powerful technology another civilization would have. Our imaginations can only wonder...
    Science fiction has surprisingly utilized the Dark Forest Theory very well. Warhammer 40k, an entire galaxy constantly at war. Cixin Liu, the milky way being flattened by a hyper-weapon.

    • @Alexander_Kale
      @Alexander_Kale 10 місяців тому

      The problem with the Dark Forest is that hiding would not save you.
      Imagine that there WAS a genocidal species out there. They would inevitably come to the conclusion that some species would try to hide from them, and they would then try and find ways to kill the ones that do.
      WHat is the easiest way to do this? Massive overkill. YOu have an incredibly powerfull energy source in the form of your sun. By weaponizing just a small part of it, you can absolutely kill every living thing in the galaxy without ever leaving your own solar system.
      If you repfer a more direct approach, send out fleets of probes equipped with nuclear bombs.
      Or just sent probe droids, like the ones from the second star wars movie, and tell them to report back. If one of them doesn't report back, send a kill fleet.
      In other words, you can rest easy. If there WAS a genocidal alien race out there, we would already be dead. The very fact that we are still alive means that we are save.

    • @chromatic2006
      @chromatic2006 4 місяці тому

      What is really terrifying is understanding why an advanced civilization would see a lesser developed civilization as a threat. It's because that lesser one might, upon being contacted, devote all of their resources to 'catching up". And scientific discovery is not a universal constant. It is possible that the lesser one gets really lucky, and is able to leapfrog ahead in science and technology. The greater civilization can't take the chance, they have to make a decision to eliminate now. Here we are on Earth, broadcasting our signal out freely.

    • @Raxatlix
      @Raxatlix 3 місяці тому

      We could be a forgotten colony of the imperium

  • @kevinsayes
    @kevinsayes Рік тому +5

    Brian Cox could make quilting fascinating

  • @AnthonyRiddle
    @AnthonyRiddle Місяць тому

    How come the two best speakers of our generation are both scientists? Neil DeGrassi Tyson and Brian Cox speak so well and with so much passion and enthusiasm. I love listening to them talk.

  • @pliashmuldba
    @pliashmuldba Рік тому +6

    I find it a bit silly potential civilizations out there should be competing for resources, when there are so much of everything out there, and so availability will only be limited in your ability to go and harvest them.

    • @Z0mb13ta11ahase
      @Z0mb13ta11ahase Рік тому

      Problem is finding ones that are worth harvesting. If an advanced civilization came by earth, it may just be easier for them to wipe us out and harvest our world than it is to go scout for a world with what they need and then get to it with their workers.

  • @lokey834
    @lokey834 Рік тому +5

    Somewhere out there…species with powers might exist. I know it sounds outlandish, but the possibility is there. Fantasy may not exist here, but it may exist elsewhere knowing that the universe is vast.

  • @Colin-Fenix
    @Colin-Fenix 9 місяців тому +1

    Great 5 minute video!

  • @nettewilson5926
    @nettewilson5926 Рік тому +66

    I think time and space distances are so great that even if life is not rare, we would be unlikely to find it

    • @Impactor07
      @Impactor07 Рік тому +3

      Well, what about the wormhole theory?
      I mean, if it's true(hypothetically), then there'll be no prob in travelling vast distances in space

    • @albundy7198
      @albundy7198 Рік тому +5

      If we could build a telescope that could detect every star around the entire habitable area in a different spiral 🌀 galaxy like the location of earth in a Milky Way spiral bc I think you will have better luck looking outside the galaxy into another Milky Way twin galaxy about the same age or a little older.

    • @bigboicreme
      @bigboicreme Рік тому +2

      ​@@Impactor07 wormholes just don't exist naturally

    • @ArmstrongandTumbler
      @ArmstrongandTumbler Рік тому +3

      @@Impactor07 If wormhole travel was hypothetically real, and we somehow found a way to master using it, there are still hundreds of billions (with a B) star systems in our galaxy, and every star system can have hundreds if not thousands of planetary/moon bodies in orbit around each one. We will still have our work cut out for us. LOL

    • @Impactor07
      @Impactor07 Рік тому

      @@ArmstrongandTumbler Yeah lol
      I mean having a headstart is always better than doing everything by scratch imao but still, the wormhole remains a theory, but one that seems likely to be true imao...

  • @borzica
    @borzica Рік тому +25

    Could it be that alien life exists in a different dimension and we simply cannot perceive them?

    • @ganymede3141
      @ganymede3141 Рік тому +1

      Could it be that we can use our imagination to come up with all sorts of fictional explanations using nonsensical pseudo-scientific language?

    • @C0Y0TE5
      @C0Y0TE5 Рік тому +14

      @@ganymede3141 unnecessarily judgmental. Be kind

    • @EgoJinpachi_
      @EgoJinpachi_ Рік тому +5

      no need to worry for that scenario when its probabilistically impossible aliens dont already exist in this universe.

    • @C0Y0TE5
      @C0Y0TE5 Рік тому +1

      Our understanding of dimensions so far is that those more than 4 must be incredibly tiny.
      -- Recap, we have 3 spatial dimensions plus a 4th, time that apears to create an infinite universe.
      -- Doing the math by adding a fifth dimension reveals what is very similar to the electromagnetic theory. Or a very tiny place. This leads to String Theory and 10 or 11 dimensions, but all are very tiny, eg: particles/wave forms/fields/strings/branes.
      -- One view of this is that these dimensions are like a screen through which the illusion of our 4-dimensional universe is "created"/projected.
      -- So, perhaps, better for u, not tiny beings from tiny dimensions, but maybe alternate realities in a multiverse, or our future selves traveling back in time may be more likely.

    • @borzica
      @borzica Рік тому +2

      @@C0Y0TE5 whoa thanks for the comment! I was thinking similar to the way our brains cannot perceive a tesseract, perhaps we cannot perceive beings living in the 4th dimension.

  • @Mr_Glenn
    @Mr_Glenn 9 місяців тому

    What was the opening scene from?

  • @elektrovert
    @elektrovert 10 місяців тому

    If you look at our own transmissions from Earth over time, they increased as we discovered and started using radio, but now that we're advancing our technology further were getting quieter right? So the duration of our interstellar broadcasts is what, less than 200 years? (accounting for the future too).
    Is it not simply possible that technology advances so quickly that they're only visible briefly. They done need to be actively hiding, perhaps they're just super efficient.

  • @WINZ0W
    @WINZ0W Рік тому +7

    If someone in the universe were looking for proof of life in our direction would they find it or will they have to wait a fee million years for the evidence we are projecting now to reach them?

    • @monkeymox2544
      @monkeymox2544 11 місяців тому

      Depends how far away they are. Signals from earth have now reached around 70 earth-like planets

  • @Mike-br8zt
    @Mike-br8zt Рік тому +6

    Finding alien life is like finding life in Stok-on-Trent, we hope it is out there but finding it is a challenge.

    • @brucedickinson12
      @brucedickinson12 Рік тому

      Is that near Stoke on trent

    • @tonypine3434
      @tonypine3434 Рік тому +1

      Saying "finding intelligent life" maybe would've made that dig funny. As it stands you failed. Quite ironic

  • @TheQuillRat
    @TheQuillRat 6 місяців тому

    Is Brian’s comment about Europa having 3x Earth’s water factoring in the body of water they found beneath the earth?

  • @Bob-of-Zoid
    @Bob-of-Zoid Рік тому +7

    We may just have to reevaluate what we call "The Goldilocks zone", as there are many more factors than just a planets position in it's solar system to account for. It's a magnificent chaos out there, just on a scale hard to fathom for most.

    • @kbuttstadt
      @kbuttstadt Рік тому

      Still, that's an idea that is 100% terran. The thought process that states "change our perception" was created, like all ideas we know of at this point, on this planet.

    • @haukikannel
      @haukikannel Рік тому +1

      We have only found water / carbon based life. So the chance of finding that kind os life is bigger that life that is based on for example cilicon… Because if there would be life based on cilicon we should have seen it in our solar system.
      So goldilock zone is the best ques / chance we have to find out life that is somewhat similar to us. Does that means that it is the only possible way life can develop. No, but it is the most likely candidate.

  • @_J.F_
    @_J.F_ Рік тому +5

    Just remember that the old fashioned landline telephone was only invented by humans less than 150 years ago, and means of effectively contacting anyone on any other planet has been around for little more than 50 years. That is such an insignificant and almost unmeasurable amount of time in the scope of our galaxy and our universe that it would have to be a miracle if anything noticed such an insignificant bleep on the 'radar' and the way things are developing we might not be around for thousands of years to come either, and maybe other civilizations have/are having the same issues.

  • @stevohmelike
    @stevohmelike 9 місяців тому

    Oh snap. This just reminded me to check in on voyager.

  • @cooperholand
    @cooperholand 10 місяців тому +1

    Another concept to consider is that other life in the universe may only be at our level of civilisation and aren't capable of travelling far enough from their own solar system yet to come and meet us and if we're able to stick around long enough, our civilisations may get to a point where we can meet.

    • @cooperholand
      @cooperholand 10 місяців тому

      Or other civilisations didn't decide they wanted to explore the universe the way we did

  • @adrianmarzozanon3433
    @adrianmarzozanon3433 Рік тому +8

    always a pleasure see your videos.

  • @jroar123
    @jroar123 Рік тому +5

    There might be another reason we haven’t found any other forms of life out there. It could be that we are the very first.

    • @robertjames4908
      @robertjames4908 Рік тому

      Feasible, if it's taken over four billions years for us to evolve and the universe is only 13.8 billion years old then we may only be on the rising tail of the bell curve for intelligent life.

    • @craigthescott5074
      @craigthescott5074 Рік тому +3

      Or we could be the last.

    • @jroar123
      @jroar123 Рік тому +1

      @@craigthescott5074 That's right. We have no idea however, that doesn't mean that we stop looking just in case. The chances are slim to non that we ever find something. But, what if there is technology drifting out in space of a race of people long since distinct? That to would make it work looking but on the other-hand, what if we are the first? wouldn't that mean we wasted resources to prove a negative. That time would have been better of used developing something to expand life from our planet?

  • @engelbertus1406
    @engelbertus1406 3 місяці тому

    I don’t like hypothesizing nor putting hopes on science, but if and when the Alien will show itself in whatever form during my lifetime ~ that would be pretty badass

  • @carveh13
    @carveh13 9 місяців тому

    The absolutely gorgeous Brian Cox!

  • @celestenova777
    @celestenova777 Рік тому +6

    Interesting video, thanks for upload 🌠

  • @rocketRobScott
    @rocketRobScott Рік тому +3

    What if the explanation is The Simulation Theory. How deep would a simulation go? Would space be simulated too? All of it?

  • @joeschlepp
    @joeschlepp 5 місяців тому

    SETI is searching for radio signals. what if advanced civilizations are using light(advanced laser) or other form(telepathy) to communicate.
    are we able to decipher them?

  • @TheDeven1000
    @TheDeven1000 11 місяців тому +2

    I think it’s very likely that we just can’t cover the distance needed to find other life forms unless we learn to create wormholes

    • @procta2343
      @procta2343 9 місяців тому

      yeah its travel, we need a faster and safer way to travel. We have tech to go to the moon and walk on it, but no one has the bus fare to do it like they did back then. Hence why Mars is off the menu at the moment, i recon if there was a big enough drive like it was to the moon, i recon we would have been there, in the 80s or in the 90s.

    • @hellenespirit6009
      @hellenespirit6009 6 місяців тому

      Is that so?thats why when they asked why we haven't got back to the moon, they answered they gave us was ( we had the technology but we lost it and it's so difficult and painful procedure....) 🤣🤣

    • @procta2343
      @procta2343 6 місяців тому

      @@hellenespirit6009 Moon landing project, i think the US government just threw endless pots of money at NASA. But as soon as they landed on the moon a few times, budget was cut, so no more new moon walks. Also i think there isn't the drive either, like there was for getting on the moon and back. If a government hungry enough to go to mars, and back. I recon we would be there in the next 5 to 10 years.

  • @patelk464
    @patelk464 Рік тому +41

    The Dark Forest hypothesis propose that an alien civilization will at first search for life on other planets. At some point they become advanced enough to realise to their vulnerability to other alien civilization and as a result becomes Dark.

    • @ingridhohmann3523
      @ingridhohmann3523 Рік тому +2

      So in other.words ,,,don't stick your head and.play it safe ,,?????I'm not objecting to that 🤔 ,but let's colonize Mars ,it's close by,in the neighbor so to.speak wink 😉

    • @patelk464
      @patelk464 Рік тому +2

      @@ingridhohmann3523 At least we can be fairly certain that there are no little green monsters on Mars, hopefully 😉

    • @sufficientmagister9061
      @sufficientmagister9061 Рік тому

      ​@@patelk464
      What about Artificial Super Intelligence? If that emerges, it gets out of human control, then destroys humankind as a whole. Then ASI will be the dominant life-form exploring the universe.

    • @davecurry8305
      @davecurry8305 Рік тому +10

      Colonizing Mars makes no sense. It is far too hostile to be a second home for humanity. It may be worth going there for exploration’s sake. Beyond that, stay home and repair earth makes much more sense.

    • @Fyodor48
      @Fyodor48 Рік тому +3

      Whilst an interesting hypothesis, it is ultimately irrelevant. Why? You may ask, simple really; for the planet Earth is the *only* populated planet in existence. And all the studying, all the searching, all the probes being sent out in scanning for evidence of life; Two now in interstellar space.
      Alas, Tis But an exercise in futility. That said, Thank-you for all the amazing images from Webb, Hubble (particularly Hubble deep field) .
      This small piece of dark sky when looked at, the astronomers expecting little in return were stunned to learn and see!! Thousands of galaxies!!!!!! So what’s beyond that? What’s beyond these thousands of newly discovered galaxies??
      If (and they’re not) were an astronomer using their Hubble or Webb or better, way out there in *newly discovered* ‘Hubble deep
      field land’ and those telescopes were pointed at a ‘dark patch’ of their relative Sky, what on Earth would those Super mega telescopes wayyy out there observe What would they see? The answer is absurdly simple!!!.
      *NOTHING but, more and more and more ‘Deep Field* images of just more and more Spiral etc galaxies like our own Milky Way. *Beautiful for sure, but like the rest of the Universe with the exception of our Blue Beautiful Planet; Utterly devoid of life.
      *So Guys n Gals, get out there look after our world and treat it with the Love, Respect and Reverence Tis due*
      *I give you this unasked for reality, but give it I Must*

  • @phrayzar
    @phrayzar Рік тому +25

    The dark forest theory is such a classic manifestation of human neurosis.

    • @mattsmith1859
      @mattsmith1859 Рік тому

      How? It makes sense base in our limited understanding of how civilization progress. The way its presenting inthe Three Body Problem makes it make more sense. We don't any any other examples to draw from and our sci-fi runs the spectrum from helpful and kind aliens to murdering madmen. The Dark Forest is nicely in the center.

    • @swellawsum
      @swellawsum Рік тому +5

      Famous last words

    • @adamlouis3725
      @adamlouis3725 Рік тому

      its math. if only 1 out of 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 civilizations follow dark forest theory on a long enough time line only they will be lift. the universe will continue to produce similar conditions to what exists now for 100 trillion more years. the universe has only existed for a blink compared to its expected life span

    • @ArmstrongandTumbler
      @ArmstrongandTumbler Рік тому

      Some may say it would be so cool to find out other lifeforms that think like us, but others may say it would be the worst discover in humankind for find aliens that think like us.
      I mean we have enough nuclear firepower to blow up our whole planet many times over, pointing at ourselves, and it can be set off with basically the press of a button at all times.... If I were an alien, I'd stay away from us too.

    • @siddharthavicious108
      @siddharthavicious108 9 місяців тому

      People who thought like you got eaten by tigers 10000 years ago.

  • @toriahennesey
    @toriahennesey 11 місяців тому +1

    The techno-signatures student is Peter Xiangyuan Ma

  • @stangoodvibes
    @stangoodvibes 8 місяців тому

    The 3 body problem. The best sci fi trilogy since...ever

  • @baddabing4494
    @baddabing4494 Рік тому +5

    I think it's probably just the fact that the universe is still relatively young, and that it's bigger than our ability to rationalize probability

    • @baronroaster404
      @baronroaster404 9 місяців тому

      The older it gets, the further away everything will get.

  • @bobdownie.2806
    @bobdownie.2806 Рік тому +3

    A major rule in the discovery process is that we find something unexpected. Which is not surprising given just how little we have yet discovered. This of course doesn’t mean that I expect that the unexpected will come in the form of alien life, it means that anything unexpected is just so because it is alien to us. If we look at life from the perspective of biology we may be missing a broader reality of what in fact does constitute life.
    It may turn out to be that our bodies (by which I herein include our brains/minds) function for our own purposes…our own ends and therefore we do not see that which is beyond our own little world that our body is functioning for. Aliens could be all around us and we don’t see them….this is not so far fetched if you consider how magic tricks fool us. Alternatively you could consider the capacities of different species to have an awareness of things (E.G) a mole’s eyesight, a bats echolocation etc…..it’s extremely stupid to think our own ability to sense the universe is unlimited, despite technological aides. Again, I recall a certain species was believed to be extinct in Australia, until the so called experts asked the local indigenous peoples about these and were led to them in abundance.
    The bottom line is that humans are very limited in both intelligence and their awareness of the universe when compared with the immensity of what is out there……we will never know everything, this can only ever be arrogance……which is a fear response to that which is greater and more powerful than you.

  • @KentPittsburgh
    @KentPittsburgh 9 місяців тому

    All this time I thought I was saving space, but really space was saving me.

  • @LittleMAC78
    @LittleMAC78 Рік тому +1

    Re: the lack of response to the signals we've sent out.
    Borrowing from fiction here but is it possible that something along the lines of Star Trek's "Prime Directive" not to interfere with or engage with a less technological civilisation than their own could be at play.
    The other thought is that the civilisations that may be out there are at a more primitive stage of development and unable to receive/respond to the signals, or even perhaps terrified into reluctance.
    Lack of response does not, by itself, seem to preclude the possibility that the signal has been received by another sentient civilisation as far as I can see in my, admittedly non-qualified, view.
    If anybody could explain how any of my points are categorically ruled out, I'd be delighted with a response :)

  • @FanBoyBooks
    @FanBoyBooks Рік тому +12

    This is the first video that actually started to convince me why it could be so hard to find advanced alien life. Yeah there are plenty of goldilock planets... But ones you give several billion years, that survived everything the universe through at them, and the Civilization survived long enough to send signals we could reach.... Then we right now can find those signals and understand them. Universe seems old but its only 13.8 billion years old, Earth formed 4.5 billion years ago, single cell organsism appeared 3.5 billion years ago, AND then multicellular animals appearwd 600 Million years ago, then starting with Tesla in 1899 in Colorado Springs upto nowadays we have slowly been really just starting our search finding evidence of alien life.
    So yeah, we just might be a very early alien life that is looking for others And the amount of other advanced lifeforms could be rare and very spread out. Sucks, but real possibility.

    • @TheBanana93
      @TheBanana93 10 місяців тому +1

      If anything we are gonna be the aliens

    • @brucedunn6845
      @brucedunn6845 9 місяців тому

      Thick as mince, we were genetically made by aliens. and past civilisations were much more advanced than us, you need to wake up cupcake 😂

  • @AynneMorison
    @AynneMorison Рік тому +5

    For all we know they are near the same development as us. Barely poking a toe off the planet, or maybe still working a few centuries back in equivalence. Maybe they've already passed us and hit the terminal point for their species lifespan. Just because they are out there doesn't mean they are even trying to move off planet, maybe they don't wanna. Not all peoples are explorers on this planet either. If they are advanced like we seem to be determined to project and the only ones we have encountered so far are rowdy youngsters with a new driver's license. They could be social outcasts for their tendency toward strange 'experiments'. Maybe they don't want to meet us - we are far from united as a race, we kill each other all the time. The 'take me to your leader' trope doesn't fly when there are so very many without a top council or person to go to. Delightful to think about meeting someone from Out There, but I'm not holding my breath until they arrive.

  • @alexbosse8528
    @alexbosse8528 11 місяців тому

    There was an interesting question posed to one of the researchers at SETI. She was asked: How much of space have we searched for life?" Her answer was: "If you imagine that all of space is equivalent to the oceans here on earth, we have searched about a glass of water. So if you were to scoop a glass of water out of the ocean and you didn't find any fish, would you say that there was no life in the ocean?" Now obviously you could argue, throw it under a microscope and likely you'll find micro organisms, but the point is space is gargantuan and we've barely scratched the surface.

  • @RavenIroneagle135
    @RavenIroneagle135 7 місяців тому

    Very poetic Professor!

  • @jrag1000
    @jrag1000 Рік тому +3

    The dark forest hypothesis makes perfect sense to me. Look at how many problems we have with each other on our own world.

    • @GTA5Player1
      @GTA5Player1 Рік тому +1

      But wouldn't civilisations evolve and become more peaceful?

    • @Whyamihere88
      @Whyamihere88 Рік тому +1

      ​@@GTA5Player1 You'd have thought so huh.....

  • @zantar666
    @zantar666 Рік тому +5

    Great video

  • @sulanis8444
    @sulanis8444 Місяць тому

    So I saw a couple of things that would make it hard for us to detect an alien Species.
    If an alien species is less developed then us, they would not be able to send our radio waves that are telescopes can detect. Plus the further the signal the harder it would be to detect, not that it degrades, but it becomes a thinner and thinner signal. Which is why one would need a far bigger receiver.
    If an Alien race was at our level it would still be hard to detect because the bigger telescopes receiver needed to detect those signals let a lone give them meaning. The other thing is modern technology does not use as much broad spectrum communication. We now use short range radio waves (cell phone, wi-fi, Bluetooth, and NFC), we also use a lot of medium to carry information such as: Twisted-pair, coax, copper, and fiberoptic cables. They're not just sent in a wife range like radio waves that are limited limited to the speed of light.
    If an Alien species were more advanced than us and they do eventually become space faring or even travelling casually through their own solar system they would need something faster than light to maintain proper communication. This makes me think that they have developed a far more advanced version of quantum entanglement.
    Example: If particle A vibrates than the entangled particle b would vibrate. the best part is there is 0 medium to detect because no matter the distant its instantaneous. Which would mean they can't be detected.
    I mean I would like to hope that other intelligent species in the universe would not be living in constant fear of other races. I can't imagine thousands of species that were gifted with self awareness or beyond would think in the ignorant, arrogant, selfish, fearful way we do as a species.

  • @bobbates7343
    @bobbates7343 3 місяці тому

    Who is the student from U OF T that made that program ? Seems his name should be at least mentioned

  • @petercortens6019
    @petercortens6019 Рік тому +4

    A century ago we were still vividly debating if the milky way was the entirety of the universe or not. I think we simply lack patience and due to our short life spans we urge for significance and importance and shape our expectancy by that

    • @savagestranger
      @savagestranger Рік тому +2

      Exactly, we should say fuck it and work on a multigenerational, multinational space elevator. We'll never see it, but the future will.

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor 10 місяців тому

      lack patience for what? back then, everyone was afraid to question anything. today everyone questions everything. this is not the same. stop comparing the past with our present. our society and culture are too different to be compared

    • @procta2343
      @procta2343 9 місяців тому

      @@savagestranger if we did that, i recon we would have been on mars, and i recon the world would change for the better, we would be hell of lot more friendly and greed would vanish.

  • @paulpipitone8357
    @paulpipitone8357 Рік тому +5

    It’s our limited technology that prevents us from understanding how to find or understand why we have not found other life

    • @The1stDukeDroklar
      @The1stDukeDroklar Рік тому +3

      Bull. Given the vast time the galaxy has been here, any advanced alien specie would most likely be millions if not billions of years older. It would only take about 1-2 million years to colonize every planet in the galaxy at sub-light speeds. IF there actually were other alien civs in the milky way, you wouldn't have to ask where are the aliens... you wouldn't be able to swing a stick without hitting an alien.

    • @Westrait
      @Westrait Рік тому +1

      @LucYfYre Arch of TwiLight True also since the singularity hypothesis, of big bang there should be older Civilizations since time and space is going in a linear fashion still we don't see anything ...with our scopes or satellites...not one hint ...Intelligent life seems rare if you try and match up our solar system with the many others it would all have to be a exact identical orbital alignment , size of planets moon, and Sun anything off would throw any hopes of any life...We were almost wiped out ourselves during the age of Dinosaurs. Asteroids and metoers seem to be the culprit for non intelligent life and million other things with evolution,temperature,chemical reactions ,planetary alignment,etc

    • @The1stDukeDroklar
      @The1stDukeDroklar Рік тому +2

      @@Westrait Yes. Not only does earth possess a multitude of things that seem to be pretty rare, but as you pointed out, even here life has been very tenuous to put it mildly. IIRC there's been 5 global mass extinction events that we're aware of.
      All of these things are "filters" to the possibility of life, let alone life that survives long enough, in the right conditions, to develop technology. Even on earth which is pretty primed for life, intelligence of human level appears to be a freak occurrence since we're the only species that has evolved it out of the countless species that have existed over billions of years.
      Given all these things, odds are we are the progenitor species of this galaxy. If that turns out to be true, it places a heavy responsibility upon mankind to not go extinct. In that case, it would not just be the fate of humanity at stake, but of all future life within the galaxy that we would spread as long as we survive.

  • @ThouArtEverywhereAndNowhere
    @ThouArtEverywhereAndNowhere 9 місяців тому

    For me it’s not so much as “they’re scared of us” more as it is “we are afraid of what can bring these things about” because to us we don’t know what brings these things about, and to anyone else; other species, it is the same.
    “What we’re you thinking?”