Tim Hawkins- Worship Pastor Request @FBJC
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Tim Hawkins Show at First Baptist Church, Johnson City, NY 10/7/11
Worship Pastor Request
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I love that. He’s laughs at his. Own jokes
Amen on the hymns! I love hymns.
Depends which ones tho, the really old ones that are like 5 verses and move at a snails pace make me want to fall asleep, and there hard to sing a lot of times
The truth is that Tim is saying in a light-hearted manner the same things that a LOT of Christians are:
*many of the contemporary songs are endlessly repetitive (sometimes 1 verse sung 8 (!) times)
* they are not written for corporate worship and are difficult to sing
*typically, they are poorly composed and the lyrics lack substance
I am not the only Christian who feels this way. A lot of us are spending the entire (lengthy) song service repenting for the resentment we feel.
Read the book Why I left the contemporary christian movement by Dan Lucarini?. I think i spelled it right. Hes a former Methodist worship pastor, praise band member, youth leader.
It's also why they lose Christians. As well as most just mouth the words and after a few repeats shut up and wait till it's over.
😂😂😂
I know this is a dead comment section but WOW. Someone else put it into words!
@@mcneillmama50 Yes, I've read it. He makes excellent points.
if you love the Lord, you lose you humor, really!, get a grip and laugh, it too is a gift from God
Request #2 AMEN! I completely agree with this! I love the old hymns!
Megan Herrick ii
Me too
Only thing getting me through a project on prostate cancer right now is this video. Thank you Tim.
Could not agree more! While I do like some contemporary worship, hyms should never be done away with! My ideal praise and worship session has a good mix of both.
Same!
I love that I go to a modern church that does what he is saying. Modern Worship/Praise music is great.. but hymns do give a more finite plateau to the message.
We are a cappella church and sing four part harmony. Sounds great when sung by 200 voices
Gordon McElvany i went to a Dutch Reformed farming community church meeting one time in Rural Alberta. Blew away anything i’ve heard before. They were belting it out like nothing i’ve heard, the Cathedral was rumbling. Young & old. Amazing. Then afterward everybody’s outside having a smoke! Lol
Good people though.
Generally I’m not a fan of churches that insist on no instruments because of the baggage that comes with insisting on tradition which blinds & pollutes scripture interpretation.
On the other end of the spectrum I can’t even hear myself sing in those performance oriented churches. Ridiculous.
ROFL .... "that R is so important!"
That "r" is so important! 🤣🤣
I led worship for 11 years, and always tried to incorporate hymns and older choruses into the song set. I work on Sundays now, but the handful of times I've been able to make it to church, it seems like all the songs are all post 2014. No hymns; no older choruses. The modern stuff is fine, but keep the older stuff alive too.
I was reading in my Bible this morning, I'm reading the book of Daniel, the scripture I read had the word prostrate I it, I thought about Tim talking about prostrate. Lol
Watch the game with me, Lord! No talking, no questions, LOL
13 people's prostate fell.
Hey I'm going to do that.😋
When you accidentally get funnier....
@pstood that WAS anointed ...i think i let a tear squeeze out :)
how do you not find this funny! he is a christian comedian, hes not making fun of the stuff
He got a whole bit out of that mistake. Awesome!
I love old hymns.
I would totally get all into Watch the Game with Me Lord.
As a former worship co leader, guitar and bass player, I get the humor. Worship is a personal thing that doesn’t work the same with everyone. We as Christians gather together and are not always happy with the style, songs and such so we contend over that and go to a different church and then that church gets a new worship leader or pastor and it all changes so we have to look for a different church that not only accepts our musical style, but doctrine too and other amenities. If the bathrooms have good fixtures, a certain amount of privacy but not too overly decorative, I feel these bathrooms reflect the true spirit of the church of God. We as Christians are flawed, blinded, proud and often totally full of ourselves which makes us perfect material for humor. The sad thing is most humor about Christians comes from ignorant world view comedians who get it wrong a lot but not always. So when someone knows the more inside workings of just how odd the people in the church can be, and voices it, it can be very funny if done right. Christian humor is hard and not often funny. I Don’t always like everything Tim does, but the trick to good humor is preferably in a nice way, point out someone’s else’s or our own shortcomings. So it’s great to know it’s Gods grace that saves us. Even if I have the voice of a angel and all knowledge, but have not love, I am nothing (slightly paraphrased but the general idea is there)
"that R is SO important"
The endless worship songs are a bit much !
I went to a church once, and when the pastor got up to lead the prayer line, he handed over to someone else to lead the worship. Well, they sang only one song, but they sang it 8 times. When the pastor got back he said "Wasn't that a great song? Let's sing it one more time".
As I stood up and picked up my bible I said in a loud voice, "Oh, Let's not" and walked out.
And although I wasn't there, I guarantee, they didn't sing it just ONE more time. I think even God would be getting fed up with one song over and over for 15 minutes!
The key changing thing is big problem in worship music. every song we do ,we have 11 different key print outs. Ive played all kinds of music and worship music is the only genre that obsessively changes keys.....pick one and stick with it.....please
I really think that including the hymns and chorus from a long time ago is very important, not because of the verses😊but because it’s part of our history. I love the newer worship songs as well. I think a good mix is also beneficial to our children because if we don’t teach them, they won’t carry them to the next generation. Music is my favorite way to worship, old, new you name it. There are both hymns and worship songs that are repetitive and I think of them in different ways. Some of the newer worship songs that repeat a phrase over and over maybe God trying to get a message across to you! Or you might need that phrase sung over and over in your head to help you during a hard time or during a happy time to celebrate. Sometime a song like Healing Rain I think are so awesome when sung at a big gathering, I feel like im lifted up off the ground! Hymns are more strait to the point and we need that as well! Different music styles can help us all at different times in our lives and I’m so thankful for them, even in Sunday school there are old and new songs to learn! I don’t think he is being disrespectful, I just thank that he is talking about what we all think sometimes.
I love hymns...but sometimes you don't need to do high songs in the morning
Amen. Normal isn't soprano.
Yes to everything, and especially #2. And can we please, for the love, dispense with the "Yeeeeeaaaahhhh!", "Whoooooaaaaaaa!" and "Ohhhh-whoa-oooh-ho-oooh!" I get that you love Jesus, but I'm starting to worry you're going to go into convulsions up there!
Absolutely!!! I think school kids write these songs and the older and mature church members just have to go along with it, no matter what😋😙
Prostate or prostrate. Well, Tim, it depends...
Lol
that is so annointed! lol
At least with Hymns! love it! so true!!!
i like this joke, it is funny. but in all seriousness; I just realized that I could sing of His love forever. even if it's just that verse because His love lasts forever, because even though I keep slipping, His love lasts forever. I know it might sound religious or corny, but I just needed to say it (type it) out, if anybody can understand
Jesus did he. Say he sang. About my prostate.lol
🎶let angels prostate fall🎶
So true on so many levels.
Prostate vs prostrate. Male vs laying down
@49jubilee it's just the way the old traditional church does it. I have no idea why but as long as I have been going to church (all 26 years) it's been 1st verse 2nd verse last verse. (which is usually stage fourth verse)
I wonder why they don't sing every verse.
hilarious!!
As one who is on the worship team at her church, Here’s one, request songs that don’t involve the singers to take a breath every five seconds or scream out the words lol
Alright brothers and sisters. Bunch of attacks on Tim here and frankly on those of us who find him to be right and funny. For all of you who are offended by Tim, here's what I ask of you: Should we worship the way God shows us or the way we invent for our personal nirvana experience? Feeling good in the Lord is good, but only with true worship. For all who disagree, here is your challenge: Find me one Psalm that repeats the same exact words over and over and over and over again, back to back, in a row, droning on into eternity. No, the angels who sing Holy, Holy, Holy night and day don't count, we're not those angels. Find one Psalm, which God gave to show us His wisdom and love and to set forth a pattern of worship, that even resembles this mindless modern worship. Go.
my father love
Nice videoclip!
Similar request: can you not repeat things repeat things repeat things that you wouldn't in real life real life real life yeah yeah yeah? :) For example, can you imagine saying to your earthly father "You're a good, good father. It's who you are. It's who you are. It's who you are." By this time most people you're talking to would be annoyed.
Lol so true!
Sarah Berkner oh come on I love that song
Hahahahaha!!!!
I agree!!!
I met him
I hate going to "modern" churches. Just let me have my bulletin, I'll go sit down in a pew somewhere not too obvious, pull out the hymnal, mark the pages of the 3 songs, and pretend I'm doing something constructive so that I don't have to say hi to people whose names I don't know, and I hate going around the sanctuary to shake hands with everyone else before finally going back to my pew. I haven't been to church in 8 years now and it's a very long story that cut me deeply.
We are told in Hebrews to not neglect meeting with the brethren. Fellowship is important, in Christ. Find a church, keep seeking. Find a church that greets the new people genuinely and calmly, that reads from the Word and teaches from it, and that worships the Lord with their voices and actions instead of self serving with their voices and actions. Yes, more rare now, but not gone. I thought I wouldn't find one, but the Lord settled me in a town I never thought I would live in specifically because this congregation is a good one in the Lord. We're out here, you just gotta find us. I know pain. I also know sometimes that it's not our fault and sometimes it is our fault. At any rate, I'll pray for you. I hope you'll give the search a try. Confess to the Lord your sins, He is faithful and just to forgive. Submit to Him and your attitude will change. I'm not a Pastor (yet, if I am ever to be), but allow me to inspire you to run back to the other 99 so that there will be celebration in Heaven and on earth for your return to Him. Love, a brother in Christ. 👊
'that "r" is so important'
My husband says it wrong all the time 😉
Hahaha
wahh i gonna faint right now
People.. Get a sense of humor. You guys do not have one.
But he's not funny.
lol #3
@g1012, yes you are
What is his tattoo
I GOOGLED ZEALOT THE OTHER DAY. AND I ALSO GOOGLED INTENSE. THEN IT HIT ME- IN GENESIS 4:20, IT RECORDS THE FATHER OF THE VERY IST ZEALOT..."JABAL" HE'S THE FATHER OF THOSE WHO LIVE "IN TENTS"...... JUST SAYIN'...... R.S.
@Jiwon J Lee yep
I could talk to dogs because
I don’t know how many times i’ve tried address this problem in all seriousness. Women worship leaders, no, stop, enough, just STOP! Accompany a man singer, sure, okay. But by yourself, no. We cannot & do not follow women in life, & in singing cannot follow your vocal ranges nore guess at the song unless it were a hymn where we can figure out the notes. Worship leaders need to lead. Stop pretending to be spiritual going off on tangents nobody can follow. We don’t buy it. Do you do that by yourself at home with the door closed? Na i didn’t think so. Just lead, facilitate worship & stop trying to perform & be “spiritual”. Help others enter into worship by NOT getting in the way.
Couldn't make it in real comedy
He is in real comedy.
Something has changed in Tim. I don't yet know exactly...but he is not the same comedian when he started out. He is mocking God and Christian's dont even see it.
In what way does he "mock" God?
@@jacobgarcia4826 anytime a comedian tells the crowd to laugh at something it's because the crowd is not buying the joke.
I have watched a lot of his videos and this one it's just he doesn't seem the same as they used to be I've never seen him act like this never before
@@adamingram1982 You still didn't answer my question
Yeah I just finished listening to the entire video I think I'm correct have a good day sir
that's not too funny tim
Clinical Psychologist Wannabee why?
Dead boring!
Everyone has their own personal preferences and that's ok if people think it's funny or not. I personally think it's funny, but I'm still nice to people who don't
am i the only one that doesn't find this funny?
Apparently so.
Get a sense of humor buddy.
Pretty much, yeah.
Yes, you are. He's hilarious. You are just butt hurt.
no, i think its disgusting too.
@Jiwon J Lee. I do not find it funny either. Disrespectful towards God and the angels.
In what way is it disrespectful?
@@jacobgarcia4826
Sadly some people, especially Christians, are too pious to enjoy good humor. More often than not they are also not happy unless they can make other people miserable. 😢
I literally thank the Lord that he blessed me with a strong sense of humor.
Too bad
He is so shallow, take your frustrations elswhere and stop fooling around and stop washing your dirty linens outside