How GOOD was Umbreon ACTUALLY? - History of Umbreon in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 2-6)

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  • UMBREON! The Moon friendship evolution of Eevee. Umbreon is cool and edgy but how well did its monstrous defenses help it throughout the years in competitive Pokemon? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Umbreon in competitive Pokemon.
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  • @MapCRimSoNCobRa117
    @MapCRimSoNCobRa117 6 років тому +1924

    I feel like you missed a VERY important thing about Umbreon when it came around to gen 5. In gen 5 and onward, it fell in usage not really due to to other passers being more useful, it's because Mean Look + Baton Pass no longer worked! After you pass a mean look (or Spider Web, for that matter) they could switch, which pretty much crippled it's entire nitch and just became a boring old wannabee Blissey/Miltank Fusion that I guess could Foul Play. It's really a shame how much Umbreon was shafted in gen 5, it really did get nothing relative to it's Sunny counterpart.

    • @FalseSwipeGaming
      @FalseSwipeGaming  6 років тому +368

      MapCRimZ ah good catch. We will pin this. Our bad for missing that. Thanks!

    • @xenonim
      @xenonim 6 років тому +39

      MapCRimZ gen 7 is worst time for our little Eeveelution Umbreon. Umbreon easily can be replace by Alolan Muk and Alolan Persian with is way better than Umbreon. Alolan Muk only have 1 weakness plus a lot of resistance and 1 immunity. While Alolan Persian very fast and can support very efficiently not to mention the infamous z-Parting Shot and plenty supporting tool that can support out his team, plus have knock off which for how many generation Umbreon did not have access for this move but Alolan Persian, New Pokemon have this move in USUM by move tutor. I think gamefreak hate Umbreon so much.

    • @MapCRimSoNCobRa117
      @MapCRimSoNCobRa117 6 років тому +43

      xenonim2013 A-Muk and A-Persian are nothing like umbreon. Infact, the literal only similarity is that they are dark type.
      If you want to list something that fills the same role as umbreon that also is dark type, Mandibuzz is probably the closest thing (tho it's not a cleric, which is pretty much Umbreons only useful role now). Otherwise it's literally a worse Vaporeon that learns Knock Off instead of scald.
      Umbreons 1 nitch was passing Mean Look and it lost that. It's like if Forretress lost rapid spin and you try to find a reason to use it over Ferrothorn.

    • @DJarr216
      @DJarr216 6 років тому +10

      Forretress still has volt switch and toxic spikes over ferrothorn, so it's not the example you should put there.
      They are similar and obviously ferrothorn is the better option because it has a recovery option that keeps it around longer but you can't substitute one for the other and expect them to work the exact same way.
      A better example would be saying what reason you would have to use gastrodon over seismitoad if gastrodon lost recover.

    • @MapCRimSoNCobRa117
      @MapCRimSoNCobRa117 6 років тому +3

      DJarr216 ok sure you can run volt switch for ease of prediction/to tank damage do the switch in comes in free sure but that's like giving B Pass to umbreon a tank umbreon solely to dry pass and that's a reason to run umbreon over blissey or some shit. And i could make a same silly comment about TSpikes but like ok yeah I get it they're not /exactly/ the same but it fills the same role w/o it's nitch of spinning and spiking. Either way my point was comparing umbreon to A-Persian isn't a good comparison.

  • @MysticUmbreon
    @MysticUmbreon 6 років тому +1587

    I like this Pokemon a lot (:

    • @youtubegonnagitit7184
      @youtubegonnagitit7184 5 років тому +58

      Lol of course you do

    • @Noctali_Volkova
      @Noctali_Volkova 5 років тому +80

      I never would've guessed...

    • @nyxeo
      @nyxeo 5 років тому +22

      Me too bro me too. They my frickin life (specifically shiny umbreon).

    • @shivampoke
      @shivampoke 5 років тому +8

      omg had no clue XP!
      (i wanna call myself mysticaegislash now)

    • @AliLiz91
      @AliLiz91 5 років тому +9

      Same here, Mystic! He's been my favorite since I was 9. I'm 27 now. I love your videos btw (:

  • @TibiaOTarena
    @TibiaOTarena 5 років тому +200

    The Foul play is amazing, so many times they think they can boost with either sword dance or dragon dance and they die in 1 hit by foul play.

  • @Espik_23
    @Espik_23 5 років тому +342

    Umbreon getting 2nd at Worlds this year was really cool

  • @NeroAngelo616
    @NeroAngelo616 5 років тому +105

    Congrats on Umbreon making the 2019 Masters Final! Spoons crossed in luck for it's final game.

    • @dadorkdoge2689
      @dadorkdoge2689 3 роки тому +6

      Spoons Crossed?
      Alakazam Reference there.

    • @NeroAngelo616
      @NeroAngelo616 3 роки тому +1

      @@dadorkdoge2689 Si, Si, oui...

  • @christopheracosta2060
    @christopheracosta2060 6 років тому +92

    I'd say umbreon hit me with charm right in the heart, he's my fav

  • @Bacchus325
    @Bacchus325 6 років тому +39

    I absolutely love this series it's so consistent in it's high quality and thoroughness. The only thing I could reccomend would be playing the Pokemon's cry whenever you feel appropriate.

    • @Goliath1337
      @Goliath1337 6 років тому

      Also people actually discussing the Pokemon in the comments, instead of just 'how good was actually' comments.

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 6 років тому +1

      The questions in the comments section is one of the main gimmicks of False Swipe Gaming's channel.

  • @alexsano1450
    @alexsano1450 6 років тому +245

    Really wanting to see tentacruel featured

    • @sealandrelevant1310
      @sealandrelevant1310 6 років тому

      Considering it suddenly featured in this video as someone who could get past Gen 2 Umbreon, I can see it happening. Much like when Skarmory and Scizor were mentioned a lot and then a lot of support came for covering them

    • @jamieweir9843
      @jamieweir9843 6 років тому +3

      It really is, Cruel, that we haven't seen it yet!......... 🌚

    • @patb8617
      @patb8617 6 років тому +1

      Jamie Weir hahahahaha CRUEL hahahaha

    • @jamieweir9843
      @jamieweir9843 6 років тому

      Pat B 😊😊 merry christmas my dude!

    • @jeffreysweeney8532
      @jeffreysweeney8532 6 років тому +2

      I'd like a Tentacruel episode too. Even though it's completely overshadowed by Toxapex, it is a Pokemon with a lot of utility. Rapid Spin, Knock Off, Toxic Spikes, Acid Spray, and Scald to name a few moves in its arsenal.

  • @bryanbridges2987
    @bryanbridges2987 5 років тому +66

    If I could have a pokemon in real life, I would want an Umbreon. I love how it looks, and I really love the concept of a mysterious, dark themed dog.

  • @flaviogiuliano9889
    @flaviogiuliano9889 5 років тому +44

    I'd say it's time for a remake of this video!

  • @CosmicFlareYT
    @CosmicFlareYT 6 років тому +431

    Time for Ampharos, the lighthouse Pokemon!

  • @BlockO008
    @BlockO008 6 років тому +103

    I will not give up. How good was Pinsir ACTUALLY? Finish the holy trinity!

  • @sealandrelevant1310
    @sealandrelevant1310 6 років тому +132

    I believe it's time to break the Gen 3 barrier, and we haven't covered a Grass type in a long time, either:
    How GOOD was Breloom ACTUALLY?
    Edit: I found there's some support for Breloom already, and I'm honestly very curious about it in certain aspects. Sorry Sceptile.

    • @cyberthegreat4033
      @cyberthegreat4033 6 років тому

      No....I want Sceptile....

    • @shigerufan1
      @shigerufan1 6 років тому

      Tropius would be nice to see too

    • @leonardofarias8843
      @leonardofarias8843 6 років тому

      No starters?

    • @metalhamer1000
      @metalhamer1000 6 років тому

      There's no Gen 3 barrier
      since Porygon Z was covered

    • @Pez7373737
      @Pez7373737 6 років тому +2

      Yes, support the Breloominati and break the gen 3 barrier つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

  • @AzoiatheCobra
    @AzoiatheCobra 5 років тому +14

    oh umbreon. back in 2001, in gsc era, me and my friends played pokemon stadium 2 every afternoon. since all of us had a gen2 game, we decided to do "gyms" of our favorite types and payed around that. note that we were 10/11 year olds that barelly knew any english (PORTUGAL CARALHO) and we didnt knew about "competetive" sets or "banned" pokemon. so the owner of stadium 2 choose Fire Type because he loved Oh-oh and Charizard, and his team was Oh-oh, Moltres, Entei, Charizard, Typhlosion and Magby (this last one was filler from stadium 2 itslef). His cousin choose psychic and his team was... Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Celebi, Alakazam and Starmie (the last 2 were fillers)... the third, who was the only one who though strategy before strengh, choose normal and his team was Snorlax (damn this one gives me nightmares), Blissey, Miltank, Smeargle, Pidgeot and Raticate (Pidgeot was filler, raticate not so much... superfang was scary). I was the last one, and choose dark. My team was simple since there were only 6 dark types xD houndour included. And houdour was the filler one from stadium. And my team worked around umbreon. We didnt care much about strategy back then, hell we didnt even knew the point of set up moves, until i acknowlegde in game how fustrating it was to kill koga muk after 2 minimizes.... and though "the only way i have to beat those teams is by setting up". So, my team, that only lost to the normal team but were like 10-9 to the normal team was:
    1st and the most important: umbreon with mean look, baton pass, double team and rest, item brightpowder. this was simple trap a favorable pokemon, either the filler or another that couldnt do much, start double teaming, pass the double team to another pokemon. the sole reason i used mean look over substitute was that if the trapped one was set up fooder for umbreon, it would be for sneasel.
    2nd sneasel: my favorite xD it had dynamic punch for the normal types, CURSE AND AGILITY, and beat up, item kings rock. i loved this one. after 6 double teams from umbreon, nobody could touch you. after 2 curses and 2 agilties, you would outspeed and hurt everyone. it only lost to the normal team when dynamic punch became dynamic miss and the pp went out... beat up plus kings rock meant flinch for everyone... or so i though....
    3rd murkrow: again, thanks to double team, this was a nightmare. toxic, protect, fly and nightshade, item leftovers. stall stall stall. bad defenses are nothing if they cant hit you xD
    4th tyranitar: earthquake, rock slide, crunch and hyper beam with quick claw... yes, now i know that it wasnt the best set in the world, but back then it was marvelous, and hyper beam was hyped by the anime.
    5th houndoom: fire blast, crunch, sunny day, solarbeam with charcoal... yes, we were able to discover that sunny day reduced the solar beam turns and that it buffed fire moves and debuffed water moves, but not the effects of pursuit xD solar beam was only for starmie.
    6th houndour. it was filler from stadium 2, i dont know its moves.
    i loved this team, they hated it. well, the normal gym leader loved it, because it was always a great battle between us. soon they learned NOT to start with the filler pokemon on my umbreon on 6v6 xD but it didnt matter much, because the usual was a 3v3, that was laughable. all thanks to umbreon.

  • @Kassiddy
    @Kassiddy 5 років тому +20

    And now my boy climbed all the way up to be the runner up of VGC 2019

  • @ejcbubba27
    @ejcbubba27 6 років тому +343

    How good was Feraligatr ACTUALLY? I've been wanting this.

    • @raphaelkgh218
      @raphaelkgh218 6 років тому +3

      EricFeraligatr27 // SSLYT yeah!😍😍😍😍😉

    • @icyferaligatr1112
      @icyferaligatr1112 6 років тому +1

      EricFeraligatr27 // SSLYT me too Feraligatr is my fav starter.

    • @Ampharosite
      @Ampharosite 6 років тому +11

      Feraligatr was decent and then became better when it got Sheer Force

    • @Idealismsu
      @Idealismsu 6 років тому +4

      name checks out, haha

    • @ejcbubba27
      @ejcbubba27 6 років тому +1

      you just got pranked gg
      True. Feraligatr is my favorite Pokemon thats why its my Pfp and in my name.

  • @LevelsOTT
    @LevelsOTT 6 років тому +406

    How GOOD was Ampharos ACTUALLY?

    • @jesuschrist7010
      @jesuschrist7010 6 років тому +14

      Ross Freeman bad

    • @Dread_Maximus
      @Dread_Maximus 6 років тому +4

      Alright in gen 2. Good in gen 3. shafted by the physical/special split. That's basically it.

    • @thatguyGuswho
      @thatguyGuswho 6 років тому +6

      You cant ignore that lovely mega mane

    • @jerry3115
      @jerry3115 6 років тому +2

      Yes

    • @FantasyAngel-zj7bw
      @FantasyAngel-zj7bw 6 років тому +1

      Wooo! Ampharos!

  • @nirtheart
    @nirtheart 6 років тому +373

    How GOOD was *FLAREON* Actually?

  • @123451234alex
    @123451234alex 3 роки тому +15

    colosseum made me love these two Eeveelutions. theyre so badass

  • @goldenhydreigon4727
    @goldenhydreigon4727 4 роки тому +64

    Umbreon: Heh, I can't be outclassed by othee Dark Types in UU
    *Ghetsis Theme starts*
    *_HYDREIGON HAS ENTERED THE SERVER "UNDERUSED BUT STILL GOOD"_*

    • @ArkaSaurusRex218
      @ArkaSaurusRex218 3 роки тому +2

      I mean, that's not saying it's bad. Hydreigon is one of the most OP non-legendary pokemon, right behind Garchomp and Mega-Salamence. It;s impressive that really any dark-types can come out of it's shadow.

  • @terrencej18
    @terrencej18 6 років тому +21

    Finally Umbreon. Thanks for this video.

  • @jeroenb699
    @jeroenb699 6 років тому +146

    How good was everyone's favourite telekinetic egg coconut tree thing (Exeggutor) actually?
    I have been asking this for weeks...

    • @lambdapegasus9535
      @lambdapegasus9535 6 років тому +5

      Jeroen B decent in Gen 1 but later gens... yeah 125 sp.attack is good but having 7 awful weaknesses is not very good at all, 55 base speed is awful as well, unless u have chlorophyll but that is if you survive the first hit, it can be either good or bad in sun teams in Gen 5, but powerful fire types like Infernape and Heatran can easily burn Exeggutor to crisp, it can also have loads of trouble with Weavile, Mamoswine, Cloyster, Ninetales, Heracross (scarf) Chandelure (scarf) Scolepede, Excavalier, Darmanitan, ect. The list goes on, and don't even think about gen 6, with so many powerful megas running around like Mega Charizard X and Y, Mega Pinsir and Heracross, Mega Houndoom, etc. I'm pretty sure that Exeggutor is on RU, sorry pal :(

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 6 років тому

      It probably won't be covered until the USUM metagame is completely developed. I say this because s/he has an alolan form that has a typing in which the cold is hated.

    • @Gojira_uz
      @Gojira_uz 6 років тому +2

      Best grass type for the first couple of gens.

    • @justusoconnor3243
      @justusoconnor3243 6 років тому

      If exeggutor is ur favorite it doesn't mean that is everyone's favorite just saying

    • @vtmagno23
      @vtmagno23 4 роки тому +1

      Good in Gen 1 and 2 and bad in later gens

  • @nerddwarf
    @nerddwarf 6 років тому +178

    How good was Vaporeon?

    • @The_Mister_E
      @The_Mister_E 6 років тому +4

      Nerd Dwarf Like Suicune but with anchors tied to its legs.

    • @maxryder6958
      @maxryder6958 6 років тому

      TheIncredibleMasterE 😂😂😂😂

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 6 років тому

      I get the reference (hopefully).

    • @nerddwarf
      @nerddwarf 3 роки тому +1

      @@josephsquires5883
      Vapoureon Video exists

  • @Chuggaaconroysson
    @Chuggaaconroysson 6 років тому +4

    Gotta say, this might be your best *looking* video. Super smooth and high definition.
    I'd like to see Pidgeot.

  • @NightmareFueler
    @NightmareFueler 6 років тому +13

    I'd love to see you do "How good was Vaporeon actually?"!
    It's a superior cleric to Umbreon in almost every way. Sure, its base defenses aren't as high as Umbreon's at 60/95 for physical and special respectively, but base 130 HP lets it pass beefy Wishes. It's also got a much better defensive typing, Scald to spread burns in order to make up for its below average physical Defense, self-sustainability in Water Absorb that also predicts opposing Water moves, and a nice base 110 Special Attack to keep it from being too passive.
    Seriously, Vaporeon is freaking great.

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 6 років тому +2

      I wonder why it is (currently) NU in Gen 7.

    • @chrishanson5846
      @chrishanson5846 6 років тому

      Super Duel707 kek

    • @theonlyshinyumbreon
      @theonlyshinyumbreon 6 років тому

      Actually, run a curse set on umbreon, and it can sweep at least half of someone's team, leaving the rest of their team doomed...

    • @melaniewilson1742
      @melaniewilson1742 6 років тому

      Vaporeon with Rain Dance in Doubles alongside Jolteon with Thunder. Just godly. If you're playing Gen 6 or 7, you also have a Hidden Ability Sylveon in the back with Hyper Voice.

    • @-Puppet-
      @-Puppet- Рік тому +2

      Ya know, Vaporeons pretty great at other things as well 😏
      * Inhales *
      Did you know in terms of male human...

  • @BasementSkeleton97
    @BasementSkeleton97 6 років тому +139

    How good was Ampharos Actually?

  • @BrandonPlaysStuff
    @BrandonPlaysStuff 6 років тому +45

    How good was Pinsir ACTUALLY?

  • @KatieMya_
    @KatieMya_ 6 років тому +79

    How GOOD was jolteon ACTUALLY?

  • @catherinestickels2591
    @catherinestickels2591 6 років тому +17

    Ah, Umbreon. My favorite pokemon ❤
    I've got a shiny Umbreon running toxic, heal bell, foul play, and moonlight, and it's just so much fun to use. I'm considering trying a wish, protect, curse, payback set in Ultra Moon now. I just relish the chance to use Umbreon

  • @ScrombIo
    @ScrombIo 6 років тому +174

    i enjoy the emerald footage '-'

    • @mohb8316
      @mohb8316 5 років тому +4

      same

    • @Gojira_uz
      @Gojira_uz 4 роки тому +2

      Sick pfp lmfao

    • @codiinguyen9908
      @codiinguyen9908 3 роки тому

      I feel ashamed for knowing what your profile picture is...

    • @ScrombIo
      @ScrombIo 3 роки тому

      @@codiinguyen9908 me too buddy, me too

    • @anon3631
      @anon3631 3 роки тому

      based profile picture

  • @dunsparce916
    @dunsparce916 6 років тому +79

    How good was Dunsparce ACTUALLY?

  • @eduardocarreno4525
    @eduardocarreno4525 6 років тому +106

    How good was Pinsir?

    • @DrWiley-fm3ik
      @DrWiley-fm3ik 6 років тому +1

      Eduardo Carreno even in gen 1 he sucked, but his mega is actually pretty decent

    • @zachrose82
      @zachrose82 6 років тому +1

      Eduardo Carreno Pretty bad until it got a mega.

    • @buttstink5763
      @buttstink5763 6 років тому

      Same as Heracross just watch that ;)

    • @tentativaX
      @tentativaX 6 років тому

      Butt Stink
      What? I'm pretty sure that's way innaccurate! Heracross was so much better than Pinsir when the beetle came out, got even better in some later gens...heck, I don't even think Pinsir has ever been in the same tier as Heracross before Gen 6! I think Pinsir is much more similar to Kangaskhan than to Heracross...

    • @PaintedHoundie
      @PaintedHoundie 6 років тому +1

      Butt Stink nope. no megahorn, has never been given a decent bug stab, has a bunch of fighting moves with no stab, for the longest heracross has been an upgraded pinsir. a bug type that can actually utilize a harder hitting moveset. it wasn't until mega evolution that they distanced themselves from each other, and pinsir actually became good enough to be a sweeper.

  • @invaderzim1842
    @invaderzim1842 6 років тому +33

    How good was Dugtrio actually ?
    I will never give up

    • @Small_Hat_Crew
      @Small_Hat_Crew 6 років тому +1

      Turki Alamri I'm with you on this one

    • @Intothevoid-NIB
      @Intothevoid-NIB 6 років тому

      Dugtrio was bullshit until Arena Trap was banned. All that really needs to be said

  • @midtown3221
    @midtown3221 6 років тому +2

    Watching your videos makes me wanna play my Emerald and Crystal version all over again now that I'm older. Your videos also make me feel so nostalgic :)

  • @deandregreene2587
    @deandregreene2587 5 років тому +5

    Stat wise: (If Umbreon was granted a Mega Evolution)
    Typing would be Dark/Ghost
    HP: 95 >>> 95 (0)
    Attack: 65 >>> 65 (0)
    Defense: 110 >>> 170 (+60)
    Special Attack: 60 >>> 60 (0)
    Special Defense: 135 >>> 175 (+40)
    Speed: 65 >>> 65 (0)
    Potential Abilities: Magic Guard, Magic Bounce, Oblivious, Regenerator, Shadow Tag, **Phaze Through**
    Phaze Through: The pokémon will be able to bypass any barrier, such as Protect, Spiky Shield, King's Shield, Substitute, etc. with any attack.

    • @Druid-T
      @Druid-T 5 років тому

      Umbreon's problem is that it lacks the power to pressure, so wouldn't it be better to boost those? You give it an offensive ability, yet not the power to use it?

    • @parulaneja2089
      @parulaneja2089 4 роки тому

      Unaware would be better

  • @jack.calder
    @jack.calder 6 років тому +16

    How GOOD were the Johto and Hoenn starters ACTUALLY?

    • @applebeemcfirdays9977
      @applebeemcfirdays9977 6 років тому +1

      Awesome J johto was shit hoenn starters were great

    • @jack.calder
      @jack.calder 6 років тому

      AppleBee Mcfirdays lol true

    • @applebeemcfirdays9977
      @applebeemcfirdays9977 6 років тому

      Awesome J shame too

    • @Zendvious
      @Zendvious 6 років тому +1

      there's only info to cover for feraligatr swampert and blaziken, the other 3 are garbage, sadly

  • @RichieGonzo
    @RichieGonzo 6 років тому +30

    I will never stop asking
    How GOOD were Gligar/Gliscor ACTUALLY?

    • @skkms910
      @skkms910 6 років тому

      Like Weavile? lmao!

    • @PaintedHoundie
      @PaintedHoundie 6 років тому

      Michael Smith uhhhhhhh weavile is the shit.

    • @zarrtik
      @zarrtik 6 років тому

      I WANT THEM NEXT AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @lowkeyretarded9244
      @lowkeyretarded9244 6 років тому

      Yeah

  • @ToWishWars
    @ToWishWars 6 років тому +14

    How good was Ampharos ACTUALLY? Come on, we need this one!

  • @Conches285
    @Conches285 Рік тому +2

    i started competitive play in Gen 4 and Umbreon was one of the first mons i started using in singles. I had Calm nature with Curse, Payback, Confuse Ray, and Moonlight; full investment in Sp.Def and HP. Thing was a monster half of the time. i used it on my OU team as a bulky sweeper and it worked so well, only really being stopped by opposing Cursed t-Tar or other taunt users.

  • @swilson5320
    @swilson5320 4 роки тому +1

    This is my favorite Pokémon for the art and back story. Thanks!

  • @ethanbailey5773
    @ethanbailey5773 6 років тому +70

    How good was Feralgatr actually? I will never give up.

    • @bdt2002gaming
      @bdt2002gaming 6 років тому

      creepy creeper Feraligatr is my all time favorite Pokémon by a huge margin. I second this.

    • @snivymaster1528
      @snivymaster1528 6 років тому

      creepy creeper yes do it

    • @Kalicer
      @Kalicer 6 років тому

      Temper your expectations, the gator is only okay.

  • @d.t7997
    @d.t7997 6 років тому +42

    Togetic and Togekiss?

  • @mariagiordano1805
    @mariagiordano1805 6 років тому +338

    PLZ do ampharos

  • @irradiated6126
    @irradiated6126 4 роки тому +4

    0:16 them jumping into the bike matches the music

  • @AliLiz91
    @AliLiz91 5 років тому +3

    Love Umbreon. He's been my favorite Pokémon since I first played Silver when I was 9. I'm 27 now

  • @hollowlunerfang
    @hollowlunerfang 6 років тому +9

    Jolteon! Vaporeon!
    Also Happy Holidays!!

  • @gustavorodriguez8702
    @gustavorodriguez8702 6 років тому +15

    Pinsir or the Gen 1 Eeveelutions!

  • @bg08395
    @bg08395 6 років тому +14

    How good was pinsir actually?

  • @PkmnTrainerEmerald
    @PkmnTrainerEmerald 5 років тому +1

    I can't wait till you make that video you've said about the gen 7 meta and now you must talk about how amazing umbreon did this weekend in worlds 2019!

  • @MorganKing95
    @MorganKing95 6 років тому

    Wow, I must commend you for making this even when it's Christmas. Props to you!

  • @MrTheFlame69
    @MrTheFlame69 6 років тому +8

    How good was Salamence!
    It probably won't be done yet since it's not a Gen 1 or 2 Pokemon, but it'd be cool

    • @MrTheFlame69
      @MrTheFlame69 6 років тому

      He only did so because their pre-evolutions were part of Gen1 or 2.

  • @pure7438
    @pure7438 6 років тому +16

    How Good was Jolteon Actually?

  • @ErichMaster_
    @ErichMaster_ 6 років тому +70

    Do Houndoom Please!

  • @TheRareware64
    @TheRareware64 3 роки тому +3

    Who here besides me think Eevee could've evolved into Umbreon with a Moon Stone instead of the time-consuming friendship evolution?

  • @Valincio
    @Valincio 6 років тому +182

    How GOOD was Butterfree actually?
    I WILL NEVER SURRENDER!

  • @lowkeyretarded9244
    @lowkeyretarded9244 6 років тому +43

    How GOOD was GLIGAR/GLISCOR actually?

    • @lowkeyretarded9244
      @lowkeyretarded9244 6 років тому

      Were

    • @Mst3kfanatic1
      @Mst3kfanatic1 6 років тому

      Gligar is shit, but Gliscor is ma boi

    • @SpecterReaper
      @SpecterReaper 6 років тому

      Khi Sen YEEEEEEEAAAAAAH!
      Gligar is shit, Gliscor is good ~Simplified

    • @thecoma2394
      @thecoma2394 6 років тому

      Gligar is actually okay. It's RU, and Gliscor is UU. They're used differently though because of their abilities.

  • @user-pd8ne6vw7i
    @user-pd8ne6vw7i 6 років тому +101

    How good was Flygon ACTUALLY

    • @gabrielneri2820
      @gabrielneri2820 6 років тому

      A Ghost flygon needs a mega evolution right NOW!!!

    • @PaintedHoundie
      @PaintedHoundie 6 років тому +2

      would have been a beast if they didn't wait till gen 7 to give it dragon dance.

    • @TraumaCenter13
      @TraumaCenter13 6 років тому

      A Ghost outclassed by Garchomp

    • @user-pd8ne6vw7i
      @user-pd8ne6vw7i 6 років тому

      hennie Kru Agreed

    • @spectral5939
      @spectral5939 6 років тому

      Sadly...

  • @shadowldrago
    @shadowldrago 6 років тому +30

    I would like to request How GOOD was Blaziken ACTUALLY. Also, Merry Christmas, man.

  • @GrouchyRaccoon
    @GrouchyRaccoon 2 роки тому +6

    I used to troll my friends using an Umbreon with Toxic, Confuse Ray, Double Team and Moonlight. It was so unbelievably infuriating I never dared use it seriously.

  • @TofuIsSleepy
    @TofuIsSleepy 4 роки тому +5

    I think it would have been cool to mention the combo of curse and payback. I know other Pokémon do it better, but it catches a lot of people off guard.

  • @gamefreak2050
    @gamefreak2050 6 років тому +18

    HOW GOOD WAS JOLTEON ACTUALLY

  • @azaleaeternal8553
    @azaleaeternal8553 6 років тому +30

    How good was Jolteon actually (Please continue with the Eeveelutions)

  • @corenlavolpe6143
    @corenlavolpe6143 6 років тому +13

    Suggestions: Nidoqueen, Pinsir, Clefable.
    Let's make it happen.

  • @pocaitul78nr1
    @pocaitul78nr1 4 роки тому +6

    " I will be using Emerald Footage instead of XD Gale of Darkness Footage"
    Me: *FOOTAGE IS FOOTAGE* !

    • @dadorkdoge2689
      @dadorkdoge2689 3 роки тому

      Nice Kakyoin PFP you got there.
      Anyway,We need EMERALD'S FOOTAGE!

  • @BobbyOGLOC
    @BobbyOGLOC 6 років тому

    Idc who gets credit for your videos Im just extremely happy you are doing the Eeveelutions! Ive been posting on every single vid and Im happy I got something for christmas lmao

  • @MultiShane4
    @MultiShane4 6 років тому +29

    Actually I think it would be cool for you to do Emerald footage for Gen 3 more often, I like it better than the Darkness footage

  • @nerddwarf
    @nerddwarf 6 років тому +98

    How good was Jolteon?

  • @twb2837
    @twb2837 6 років тому +15

    How good was Jolteon, Actually?

  • @AliLiz91
    @AliLiz91 5 років тому +36

    Umbreon is my favorite Pokémon. He's been my favorite Pokémon since I was 9. I'm 27 now (=

    • @swilson5320
      @swilson5320 4 роки тому +2

      We’re soul friends

    • @brandonforrester2455
      @brandonforrester2455 4 роки тому +1

      Umbreon: you took everything from me!
      Sylveon: i dont even know who you are

  • @harrisonk2635
    @harrisonk2635 5 років тому +4

    Congrats Umbreon you made it to worlds

  • @NotTheWheel
    @NotTheWheel 6 років тому +21

    But but... Jolteon ;n;
    EDIT>> Merry Christmas btw

  • @harmless_xd4107
    @harmless_xd4107 6 років тому +19

    History of Murkrow and Honchcrow

    • @EiraMayCry
      @EiraMayCry 6 років тому

      Wizard Bird dude murkrow does better than honchkrow

    • @jeremywilson5094
      @jeremywilson5094 6 років тому +1

      Crazy Bubble03 well it does now because it has prankster and eviolite but it didn’t always have those.

    • @DoctorMinjinx
      @DoctorMinjinx 6 років тому

      Yes!

  • @GentleBaller
    @GentleBaller 6 років тому +29

    i prefer the emerald footage to the XD footage

  • @adamtheriault6743
    @adamtheriault6743 5 років тому

    one thing I should point out is inner focus works perfectly with curse
    it keeps a slow pokemon from repeatedly being flinched while letting it setup curses
    couple that with payback, and you have a defensive pokemon that takes hits and throws hard hitting attacks back
    toss on toxic for draining and rest for healing, and umbreon becomes an even more monstruous wall

  • @NougatFromOrbit
    @NougatFromOrbit 6 років тому +1

    I always ran a set of Curse Payback Healbell and Moonlight, it made for a great setup sweeper thanks to its bulk letting it easily take hits from most attacks even not set up as long as it wasn't super effective, once it got a few curse boosts off its attack power became good enough with the 100 BP Payback that it could beat most things, barring whirlwind/roar, but I didn't find that very common tbh. I used it in OU quite a bit. Nobody expected the sweeper Umbreon since it's normally a cleric or baton passer.

  • @SSJSonikku
    @SSJSonikku 6 років тому +12

    How good was Jolteon ACTUALLY!?

  • @minecraftlink0605
    @minecraftlink0605 6 років тому +13

    How good is JOLTEON actually?

  • @foxeye245
    @foxeye245 6 років тому +20

    Jolteon, vaporeon, flareon.

    • @Mst3kfanatic1
      @Mst3kfanatic1 6 років тому

      Awesome but shit in Gen 1, Awesome, Shit in every gen

  • @m.p.2534
    @m.p.2534 2 роки тому +3

    Around 15 years ago, I'll always remember when I caught a female Eevee in Black 2 and it evolved into an Umbreon. It was my first Eeveelution and, since I had caught it's pre-evolution just before sleep, it seemed natural it would become an Umbreon !

    • @ffffff6104
      @ffffff6104 2 роки тому +1

      BW2 was released in 2012. It could not have happened 15 years ago.

    • @Redeye_Brawl
      @Redeye_Brawl Рік тому

      Fact check

  • @Used__Napkin
    @Used__Napkin 5 років тому +1

    I played around with a singles sun team during X and Y and I ran an umbreon a sort of last resort. After everything else was taken out I’d be left with umbreon who had Sunny Day, Toxic, Moonlight, and Payback with Synchronize as the ability. So whatever survived Mega Charizard Y would get cleaned up eventually. If anything didn’t get Stun Spored by Whimsicott and tried to inflict anything on Umbreon would get it too, and if not I’d just use toxic. At times it felt kinda cheap, but because it was my first attempt at a competitive team I had a lot of fun.

  • @brimstone0999
    @brimstone0999 6 років тому +14

    How good was Vaporeon Jolteon or Flareon

  • @peterpham240
    @peterpham240 6 років тому +11

    how good was jolteon ACTUALLY

  • @randomname5686
    @randomname5686 6 років тому +40

    How GOOD was Jolteon actually?

  • @jack76thegamer30
    @jack76thegamer30 3 роки тому +4

    MysticUmbreon wants to know your location

  • @kamiliciousss
    @kamiliciousss 6 років тому +113

    How GOOD was Vaporeon ACTUALLY?
    **Note: How tf did I get 103 likes??**

  • @null1909
    @null1909 6 років тому +10

    How good was Metagross actually?

    • @mckerosine3134
      @mckerosine3134 6 років тому +1

      Psychicx1 really fucking good

    • @cinhuynh7102
      @cinhuynh7102 6 років тому

      Psychicx1 it dropped soon but i want it

  • @martinxx173
    @martinxx173 6 років тому +19

    Alright now let’s keep her going with jolteon

  • @bengoodwin2141
    @bengoodwin2141 5 років тому +2

    I noticed that the best(?) dark type move umbreon has in gen 3 is feint attack. So difficult to take advantage of it’s typing, though I guess feint attack, hyper beam, and moonlight combined is decent. I’m only talking about the main series games, not competitively though.

  • @jaydenyoo4309
    @jaydenyoo4309 6 років тому +24

    How GOOD was Ghost Types actually

  • @gsnutmeg
    @gsnutmeg 6 років тому +22

    AMPHAROS! (cmon I’ve been asking for a month and a half)

    • @mariagiordano1805
      @mariagiordano1805 6 років тому +3

      Gsnunag256 ampharos is my favorite Pokemon

    • @Mayank-mf7xr
      @Mayank-mf7xr 6 років тому

      he was never good. simple.

    • @dthagod
      @dthagod 6 років тому +1

      Gsnunag256 I've been asking for Ampharos for months too

  • @JohnGreen-zl7dl
    @JohnGreen-zl7dl 6 років тому +7

    How good was Pinsir actually

  • @thecrazymushr0om570
    @thecrazymushr0om570 6 років тому +18

    Ampharos would be very nice

  • @pikasup1696
    @pikasup1696 3 роки тому +3

    "THE FlooR teNtacles ARE DROWniNg Meeeeeeeee"

    • @Oscarus4250
      @Oscarus4250 3 роки тому

      A man of culture, ladies and gentlemen

  • @zepenance9571
    @zepenance9571 6 років тому +6

    Umbreon has always been my favorite eevee. I actually use him to kill dragons in gen 5 with foul play, swagger, and moonlight / wish. Surprised a lot of people with that move set too.

  • @TheAwesomeDarkNinja
    @TheAwesomeDarkNinja 6 років тому +27

    How good was Yanma-Yanmega actually?

  • @sammydray5919
    @sammydray5919 6 років тому +33

    How good was Primeape?? :]
    Also Merry Christmas!!

    • @mn73211
      @mn73211 6 років тому

      Sammy Dray Merry Christmas to you as well!

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 6 років тому

      In Pokémon Uranium (a fangame), Primeape gets an evolution. Perhaps that can be covered once such meta gets analyzed by Smogon. ;)

  • @Leo-wq8sv
    @Leo-wq8sv 6 років тому +84

    Now, do JOLTEON

    • @victorbeguito781
      @victorbeguito781 6 років тому

      Movepool consists of Thunderbolt, Hidden Power and Volt Switch. There, here is the Jolteon analysis. Never use it when you can use Tapu Koko, Mega Manectric or Raikou and you should be good.

  • @luisaugustomoreiramartinez1314
    @luisaugustomoreiramartinez1314 6 років тому +2

    I'd like to see either Jolteon or Vaporeon next!

  • @SuperSpikewolf
    @SuperSpikewolf 5 років тому +12

    And then he got to finals in The 2019 world

  • @sebastianshultz1429
    @sebastianshultz1429 6 років тому +5

    Umbreon is the best and coolest looking eeveelotion. Anyone agrees? Or am I alone?