Fun fact, Deoxys-Speed at level 36 w 0 speed IVs, no speed EVs and a -speed nature outruns a lvl 100, full speed EVs,+speed nature and perfect speed IVs Shuckle by 1 point
@@joaonunes1086 yeah, you cant use mythicals in VGC, but technically Deoxys became a "normal" legendary when Oras was released. It is still banned though
There's sadly no reason to use it over Attack form. Base form may technically be bulkier but only ever so slightly, in other words, the difference is minuscule to the point it might be nonexistant.
Vanilla Deoxys is pretty interesting to me. It might be the best bad Pokémon of all time. It is undeniably incredible in battle. But it has a form that’s just the exact same thing but better. I can’t tell if that was cruel or brilliant.
Isn't that the point of different forms from an original? Meant to be better? So it makes sense, and isn't cruel if you think that all the forms are the same pokemon so deoxys isn't really suffering.
Shows just how much typing and ability matters. Being immune to Dragon and resisting Psychic, Dark, and Fairy as well as priority Spikes is something Deo-D just can't compete with
Klefki has arguably one of the best defensive typings in steel/fairy, and prankster.... Deoxys-D I feel suffers the same plight as shuckle, monstrous defences with a meager Health Pool... imo Deoxys-D would have been a much better contender if they reduced his offensive stats from 70-->35 and increased his base HP from 50-->110 because no-one was using him for offence anyways....I wonder what a mega form of deoxys would look like? 😅
@@josephgiesing8714 That's also why I liked using the master ball in other games. Gen 1 it was either get mewtwo or suffer, gen 2 game you some more choices to use it, then gen 3 offered many legendaries to compete for the slot in the master ball.
I’m actually surprised about 2 things: 1. You covered all of Deoxys’ forms in one single video. 2. This video was only 54 minutes and 13 seconds long. I actually thought it would be longer.
It would be cool if base form had higher HP than the others or something to give it a leg up on the others. I think that the base form wasn't supposed to be as good as the others since it's whole gimmick is that it has other forms
False Swipe: "no new video this week because next week is a lot of work." Me: "oh cool. Maybe like a 20 or 25 minute video. Probably something good from generation 3." False Swipe: "and now for our 55 minute feature presentation" Love it!!
When you said you wouldn’t be uploading a video last week because you were working on a longer one, I didn’t expect it to be a mythical. It’s quite impressive to see Deoxys’s video almost an hour long since it’s never been allowed in VGC
They should have made Deoxys-Normal have base stats of 110 in everything except HP (which would stay 50) so that it would have balanced stats instead of just being a worse Deoxys-Attack
Also, a note on not retesting any deoxys form. Doexys-Defense is currently UU in natdex, albeit it an unoffical format, seeing as how it competes with mew as a bulky spikes stacking psychic type, and with the introduction of heavy duty boots to relieve the pressure to keep hazards off the field, it's less oppressive than ever.
@@geometrydashtzolkin1025 I doubt it. It's a godlike hazard setter + that ridiculous speed stat enables it to run viable np sets. On top of that there's a set of taunt, cosmic power, recover, night shade that'd probably be a little too busted with hazard support. Realistically it's the closest to not being busted though (besides deo d)
Rest in peace anyone that played the beginnings of gen 5 OU. All deoxys forms were unleashed, darkrai was unleashed with no sleep clause, and unrestricted drizzle + swift swim was still allowed. What a crazy time
Deoxys has a special place in my heart. It's the reason I remember that DNA is deoxyribonucleic acid. Worthless information for someone like me, but I still think that's pretty cool. It's also still up there as one of my favorite pokemon. Being the rival of my absolute favorite, rayquaza, made it one of the coolest when I was growing up.
This Pokemon has my favorite battle theme of them all. It's got just the right blend of awesome and surreal to be a soundtrack I always come back to, both in Firered/Leafgreen/Emerald and in ORAS.
I really like all of the animations for Deoxys in Gen 4. Especially Speed and Attack. Attack's idle animation is just flailing its limbs around like "I'm gonna be doing this now. If you get hit, it's your fault." Speed's attack animation has it whip twice and then do "spooky wiggly arms".
Clearly being an overpowered nuclear bomb equivalent to Dr. Gero making 17/18/Cell when only seeing the power of the Saiyans in the Saiyan arc is his idea of fun.
@@gastrodonenjoyer999I’ve seen enough temp6t videos to know that Zoroark is still and will always be a surprise to people despite having a visible list
What I'd like to see in terms of Deoxys buffs are new abilities. Deoxys is from a time where they gave Pressure to most Ubers instead of Intrepid Sword, Shadow Shield, and Fairy aura, so now I present: new Deoxys form abilities: Base form: Protean Attack form: Sheer Force Defense form: Regenerator Speed form: Sturdy
@@Skullhawk13 true huge power is op but isn't battle armor good tho since it allows you to spam calm mind/cosmic power without worrying that a critical strike would just pierce through it or a critical strike putting you into kill range since recover won't heal enough?
When there is an entire meta-game designed around using one variation of your OP Pokemon to hard counter the version that you think your opponent is packing, you know you've truly created a monster.
As a kid I always thought the point of Deoxys-Normal was having balanced stats. You know, 100 in all stats like Mew or something similar. But I guess GF's concept of "Normal" was "Attack but worse."
Ooph, seeing him cover all Deoxys forms in one vid was impressive; cant wait for the 1+ hour rotom and the complexity of doing all arceus in one video. *probably will do them separately, but the future awaits for them when their time is to shine.
I love Deoxys simply because it's sort of "The Thing" of Pokemon, it's a ruthless sweeper or an untrippable tank, or an adaptive beast, but it always has a massive weakness that its victims can attack if they want any hope of killing it, sweet design that really compliments its playstyle.
Excited to see FSG cover my favorite legendary Pokémon! Deoxys was always neat in my eyes but it’s recently really grown on me because of it being based on biology and biochemistry. Can’t wait to see this genetic juggernaut performed in the competitive scene!
finally this episode comes out, this is a staple on all of my uber teams, the physical set is so powerful, Superpower, Knock off, Extreme speed and Psycho boost. insanely powerful set
You mean physically based mixed set, you have psycho boost. Tho it doesn't need much investment to hit super hard (specially in terrain), I think deoxys attack has like 390 something base attack/spatk even uninvested right? Lol
@@vdd1001 something like that yeah, insanely cracked Pokémon dud, I’ve dropped half a team with just deoxys A. He doesn’t need special investment for psycho boost though, literally a 210 power move coming from 390 sp atk. He just shreds
I think Deo-A Gets the ice type (best offensive type) Deo-N gets Normal (of course) Deo-D gets steel (Best defensive type and Deo-S gets electric (Fastest type from an average standpoint)
Deoxys-Normal shouldve had more balanced stats, rather than being a worse Deoxys-Attack Hp: 50 Atk: 120 Def: 95 Sp.Atk: 120 Sp.Def: 95 Spe: 120 Wouldve been a better stat spread imo
I SERIOUSLY can't wait until he remakes the Venusaur video!! Can't wait to see how long that one lasts. Especially when he starts on weather wars in Gen 5, mega evolutions in 6-7, and the tyranny that is gen 8 Gmax forms. And VGC
The idea of not being able to tell what Deoxys form you're facing in a GBA battle is terrifying to me, especially with no Team Preview. It's seems like how people expected Zoroark Illusion to be when people were first speculating about that.
Somewhere in an alternate timeline in the "Pokemon with multiple forms club": Groudon: "I gained a 2nd form and plot armor just so I could try and kill a whale harder." Kyogre: "I gained a 2nd form and plot armor just so I could try and kill a dinosaur harder." Rayquaza: "I gained a 2nd form and plot armor just to babysit gods even harder." Necrozma: "I have 4 forms and I came to earth from another dimension to eat the sun in an attempt to subside my never ending pain." Deoxys: "I have 4 forms and came to earth in a *space* *Dorito* ."
@@Drakorre we're talking about the fastest in base stats, it being capable of being the fastest kind of doesn't matter. That's like if I said "Groudon with 4x speed is technically the fastest pokemon"
@@gamesnig Not likely, actually. The Pokemon that are in the Ubers tier are extremely powerful, and having base 50 in any stat is already considered to be bad at best in any other tier. To put it into perspective: Deoxys Defense has a base 50 HP, and isn't even considered to be a good defensive Pokemon anymore, so what good do you REALLY think that the extra base 30 in it's defensive stats makes that big of a difference?
I feel like Deoxys-Normal's stat spread should have been 110 on every non-HP stat. I wonder what its viability would have been with such a stat spread. I'll never understand why Game Freak made it a bad version of Deoxys-Attack.
12:40 this might be the saddest thing to ever happen to a Pokemon. Imagine never seeing play but unable to drop down to a lower tier for being too strong. And to add salt to injury, it was due to yourself in a different form. Being normal sucks
@@Skullhawk13 Yeah movepool would be something. But having defensive moves make it switch to say, defensive form. Just recover and get a ton of defense and tank a hit whilst also recovering half your health. Though I'm not quite sure how they'd have to divide the movepool. Maybe start as Normal form, change to speed for some support moves, defense for others, attack for any attacking move?
I'll break my episode streak of asking for that one thing to say you caught me off guard! I was expecting Ferrothorn/TTar/Kyurem but this is a pleasent surprise! Don't burn yourself out FSG, you did a great job
You could have easily made one video for each form, but I love this super long video! It's the perfect companion for a meal since I can watch with while I cook, while I eat and it's still going when I'm washing the dishes!! :)
"The sad end of an era" Yeah the issue of dusk mane is big , but is completly affordable when you pair deoxys with the king of the tier, primal groudon and Arceus ghost, i was top 50 in ubers with hyper offense with deoxys
Just another testament to Gen 4 having been the pinnacle of niche and balance and complete Pokemon battling experience. Really truly ANY Pokemon could be used and useful in some way in its own way and it could flip flop anywhere between NU and Ubers.
@@lyingcorn true it's a almost a one trick pony honestly. The only thing added to it is interaction with new mons. but then again fsg keep surprising me on how long they make the video.
Yeah.... when it takes a Interdimensional God like Necrozma to dethrone a super alien it makes sense how powerful Deoxys has been, great video as always FSG
Thanks for putting the time and effort / research into compiling this much info on this poke! I fondly remember it from the Rayquaza movie so it's awesome to hear about its competitive past since I don't play comp.
Imagine if Deoxys got a mega evolution for each of its forms! I think it'd be safe to say we'd then have at least one other Pokemon to thank for creating the "Anything Goes" tier along side Mega Rayquaza. One thing I was thinking was unfortunate for Deoxys Defense was how it didn't get any boost to its HP, if it didn't have recover then I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up with Shuckle's problem of having incredible defense stats but without any HP to back them up. I'm pretty sure Mega Evolutions could have higher HP than their normal form, so if there was a Mega Deoxys Defense it might have taken Lugia's title of "The great wall".
Deoxys is my favorite pokemon of all-time - so this video was bittersweet. Seeing it dominate every generation up to 7 was fulfilling, but seeing its fall in gen 7 and knowing it hasn't gotten a chance to redeem itself yet.... I really hope he comes back and gets some kind of buff. Also I think it's funny that Deo-D and Deo-S, despite having such different stat builds ended up having similar roles - because at the end of the day they were both just trying to get extra turns to stack hazards be it through speed or bulk.
Deoxys constantly adapting is much like a virus mutating to become harder to get rid of, which I think is a really cool coincidence considering Deoxys' orign
Fun fact, Deoxys-Speed at level 36 w 0 speed IVs, no speed EVs and a -speed nature outruns a lvl 100, full speed EVs,+speed nature and perfect speed IVs Shuckle by 1 point
That's wild
That is a fun fact
That is a very fun fact
That's the level it evolves?
@@Lrizu none of them evolve
Almost one hour for a mon that was never allowed in VGC, imagine how long it would be if it wasn't an event pokemon
Deoxys should have been legal in 2016 VGC, and you can't change my mind.
Wait Idk there're pkm that was ever banned from VGC, so almost of all mythic pkm are banned?
@@joaonunes1086 yeah, you cant use mythicals in VGC, but technically Deoxys became a "normal" legendary when Oras was released. It is still banned though
Deoxys should have been allowed in ORAS VGC, at least during restricted meta
How foreshadowing was Landorus actually
“How outclassed was Deoxys base form, actually?”
@Fax stop
@Fax begone bot
Too outclassed for Ubers but unfortunately too OP for OU :(
There's sadly no reason to use it over Attack form. Base form may technically be bulkier but only ever so slightly, in other words, the difference is minuscule to the point it might be nonexistant.
If you wanna use deoxys for offense, go offense, lead, speed, defensive? defense. Deoxys doesn’t have any cool ability that the other forms had!
Trainer: “Stop! We need to have a plan of attack!”
Deoxys-A: “I have a plan: Attack.”
😂😂😂 one of the most iconic lines from Avengers
Deoxys-A: “I am the plan of attack
Trainer: "(insert any other Pokémon) I chose you!"
* Deoxys A goes out and straight up kills even the opponent trainer *
@@kavithasunilkumarms7423 agreed.
@@rhkagePKMNAttack is my second name
The choice between N-Deoxys and A-Deoxys is basically "Do you want a glass bazooka, or a glass bazooka that shoots nukes?"
Though, Deoxys-A would probably be more akin to a paper bazooka
@@beanburrito4405 toilet paper bazooka
@@timelesspizza9892 Wet toilet paper bazooka
@@quilopn3068 used toilet paper bazooka
@@timelesspizza9892 school toilet paper
I like how Deoxys-Normal's defining role was "Deoxy Speed but a little bit wacky"
Deoxys-Normal: I'm not like other girls
@@percentled7591 Which is, uh, quite ironic.
@@PapaNierForReplicant in what way?
@@lyingcorn it's name is normal
It is used to counter Deoxys-speed that happened to counter Deoxys-attack.
When ever I see Deoxys all I think of is when he gets point blank Hyperbeamed in the face.
Lmao same, with The Lion Sleeps Tonight as background music
YouNeverSeeItCommEEEEEEENG
Awimbawe awimbawe awimbawe
Should’ve used protect lol
Bruh. That was hella hilarious 😭😂
I wish base form Deoxys actually had averaged stats instead of being just a lesser Deoxys-attack
wouldnt it literally just be Mew with a less versatile move pool?
Have you never heard of Mespirit?
I mean an averaged out stat spread just gets you a lesser Deoxys Speed. 115 Offenses, 90 Defenses and 140 Speed.
Why are there so many legendary and mythical Psychic types? The existence of so many makes some more redundant and outclassed than others.
@@cintronproductions9430 True lmao. Though some are pretty unique, Like Hoopa.
Also seeing Deoxys Defence rise from UU to OU and then to Ubers is something out of a revenge movie.
To be fair it's just fat deoxys
@@Ashelybee His arms went from spaghetti to lasagna
Defense*
@@bariumselenided5152 i think pasta is the better word
@@ayeshaakter9340 spaghetti is a kind of pasta
Deoxys Defence in Gen 5 UU: “I’m not trapped here with you. You’re trapped here with me.”
* Doom music intensifies *
Its currently not below uu in national Dex.
This is the first time that I have seen a Pokemon that not only was it banned from UU, it was banned from OU eventually in one generation
*THE C IN DEFENSE IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN S! FIX IT NOW!*
Don’t switch the spelling cause it’s funny
Deoxys Attack: Strategy? What strategy? Hit things really hard and see results.
Word, just anything getting hit by a choice item deoxys was nuts
We need a plan of attack Deoxys I have a plan attack
It hit things hard, till it hit the brick wall called gen 7
Earned one upvote from Darmanitan and it’s Galar form
click buttons brrrrr
Vanilla Deoxys is pretty interesting to me.
It might be the best bad Pokémon of all time. It is undeniably incredible in battle. But it has a form that’s just the exact same thing but better. I can’t tell if that was cruel or brilliant.
Isn't that the point of different forms from an original? Meant to be better? So it makes sense, and isn't cruel if you think that all the forms are the same pokemon so deoxys isn't really suffering.
At least it got to shine once against itself
Agreed!
"Deoxys Def- is outclassed by klefki."
That is both hilarious and kinda sad
Ya gotta love how a damn Key is fighting literal gods
I think it speaks more about Klefki than it does of Deoxys
Shows just how much typing and ability matters. Being immune to Dragon and resisting Psychic, Dark, and Fairy as well as priority Spikes is something Deo-D just can't compete with
Klefki has arguably one of the best defensive typings in steel/fairy, and prankster....
Deoxys-D I feel suffers the same plight as shuckle, monstrous defences with a meager Health Pool... imo Deoxys-D would have been a much better contender if they reduced his offensive stats from 70-->35 and increased his base HP from 50-->110 because no-one was using him for offence anyways....I wonder what a mega form of deoxys would look like? 😅
@@leokazune8043 klefki would love to say "i am the key for the solution!"
"oh look Deoxys, let me weaken it to make it easier to capture"
Dies to tackle
I can imagine someone having fought other legendaries that take multiple hits to get low health doing this.
Ye
You either accidentally one-shot Deoxys, or it sweeps your team while you try to catch it. There is no in-between
And that's why I saved my master ball in my alpha sapphire playthrough
@@josephgiesing8714 That's also why I liked using the master ball in other games. Gen 1 it was either get mewtwo or suffer, gen 2 game you some more choices to use it, then gen 3 offered many legendaries to compete for the slot in the master ball.
Fun drinking game: Take a shot every time Kellen says "Deoxys-Speed" in the DPP Deoxys-Normal section
dies from alcohol poisonings
I don't want to die, no thanks
Livers everywhere: dead
Just Deoxys in general during that section
Liquor companies: S T O N K S
I’m actually surprised about 2 things:
1. You covered all of Deoxys’ forms in one single video.
2. This video was only 54 minutes and 13 seconds long. I actually thought it would be longer.
Yo, true facts
Probably helped a bit that its an Mythical Pokemon and therefor not in VGC.
That implies a certain God Pokemon and its many forms should be in one video whenever that comes out.
If it was allowed in VGC it would be at least 100 minutes
mainly because deoxys wasn’t allowed in doubles thankfully otherwise this video would’ve been twice as long
It's so weird that Deoxys normal form was not a balance between it's stats, but just Deoxys ATK in bad.
Deoxys normal was probably designed first, and they had the concept of the formes later
It would be cool if base form had higher HP than the others or something to give it a leg up on the others. I think that the base form wasn't supposed to be as good as the others since it's whole gimmick is that it has other forms
Deoxys should've been like Aegislash with his modes
If the normal one was first designed then why couldn't they revisit it afterwards and tweak it to account for its forms? That's just bad design there.
@@gengarzilla1685 Why would it be bad design?
False Swipe: "no new video this week because next week is a lot of work."
Me: "oh cool. Maybe like a 20 or 25 minute video. Probably something good from generation 3."
False Swipe: "and now for our 55 minute feature presentation"
Love it!!
I wouldn't be a 20-25 minute video since the week before they just posted a 30 minute video
@Fax are you just gonna keep spamming comments everywhere…?
Nobody thought this lol
@@Matthew_Klepadlo yeah its a bot
Lol ye
Deoxys attack : Gets released in OU
Everything in OU : Well Guess I'll die
What's most impressive about FSG is that with a couple of exceptions, the channel has maintained a consistent update schedule for over four years.
Over seven years
When you said you wouldn’t be uploading a video last week because you were working on a longer one, I didn’t expect it to be a mythical. It’s quite impressive to see Deoxys’s video almost an hour long since it’s never been allowed in VGC
i thought it’ll be longer
It's four Pokemon in one, though.
Deoxys is a legendary now
They should have made Deoxys-Normal have base stats of 110 in everything except HP (which would stay 50) so that it would have balanced stats instead of just being a worse Deoxys-Attack
Balanced stats are usually worthless anyway.
how bout 120 attack and spa and 100 defense and spdef
What ore is that?
@@Mr.Bimgus what
This comment is exactly what I said lmao
Finally. The almost 1 hour deoxys special we’ve all been waiting for
Heck yeah!
I was waiting for this video for so long 😂😂😂😂
So true! I instantly click when I saw this.
I mean I didn't really care tbh
Been waiting for something like Ferrothorn or Lando
Warning: Don’t pin this alien against a certain Green Serpentine Dragon.
Deoxys-Attack: *sees a Pokemon with 100% health*
Deoxys-Attack: "and I took that personally."
Deoxys Speed: *sees spikeless ground*
Deoxys Speed: "that makes me kinda angry!"
Deoxys-defense:Sees a pokemon that isnt on toxic
Deoxys-defense:So you wanna die a horrible death?
Deoxys regular: Doesn't exist.
Deoxys-Normal: *peace out fading guy*
Deoxys-attack: *sees an alive Pokémon*
Deoxys-attack:”so you have chosen… death”
Also, a note on not retesting any deoxys form. Doexys-Defense is currently UU in natdex, albeit it an unoffical format, seeing as how it competes with mew as a bulky spikes stacking psychic type, and with the introduction of heavy duty boots to relieve the pressure to keep hazards off the field, it's less oppressive than ever.
None of its other forms will ever be tested in National Dex (speaking as a ND council member)
Deoxys-Defense is actually *below* UU by usage in natdex
@@kate2582 I'm mostly an OU player but dont you think there is any chance Deo-S could be a healthy addition for the tier?
@@geometrydashtzolkin1025 I doubt it. It's a godlike hazard setter + that ridiculous speed stat enables it to run viable np sets. On top of that there's a set of taunt, cosmic power, recover, night shade that'd probably be a little too busted with hazard support. Realistically it's the closest to not being busted though (besides deo d)
I used in natdex too, in this last couple of months it really fell off. It is still a great tank and has teleport
Rest in peace anyone that played the beginnings of gen 5 OU. All deoxys forms were unleashed, darkrai was unleashed with no sleep clause, and unrestricted drizzle + swift swim was still allowed. What a crazy time
Deoxys has a special place in my heart. It's the reason I remember that DNA is deoxyribonucleic acid. Worthless information for someone like me, but I still think that's pretty cool. It's also still up there as one of my favorite pokemon. Being the rival of my absolute favorite, rayquaza, made it one of the coolest when I was growing up.
I know I'm 1 year late but the only reason I remember that DNA is deoxyribonucleic acid is also because of Deoxys
This Pokemon has my favorite battle theme of them all. It's got just the right blend of awesome and surreal to be a soundtrack I always come back to, both in Firered/Leafgreen/Emerald and in ORAS.
I really like all of the animations for Deoxys in Gen 4. Especially Speed and Attack. Attack's idle animation is just flailing its limbs around like "I'm gonna be doing this now. If you get hit, it's your fault." Speed's attack animation has it whip twice and then do "spooky wiggly arms".
lmao "wiggly arms". Hey it's better than mew buttfucking itself.
“It would be fun to give Deo-A V-Create”
Me wondering what your definition of fun is.
I dunno I think that sounds fun.
Clearly being an overpowered nuclear bomb equivalent to Dr. Gero making 17/18/Cell when only seeing the power of the Saiyans in the Saiyan arc is his idea of fun.
*CHAOS*
deoxys creates victoey brother
I mean if they can give it to Mega Rayquaza anything can have it.
Still got my popcorn ready for the inevitable Ferrothorn movie.
Ferrothorn will probably be an epic spanning across 3 feature films at this rate
@just do it begone bot
@just do it begone bot
Rotom will be loger than all the Star Wars movies.
@@pacoramon9468 arceus will be longer then this and the blissey and charizard remakes combind
Was expecting to see Ferrothorn episode this week, but Deoxys was a welcoming surprise.
It seems FSG wants to finish all of 3G before going to the 5G monsters
Those special Pokémon with vgc success are probably going to be even longer
@@iBenjamin1000 landorus and heatran vids when
Yup
I really hate how annoying it is to fight sometimes
*sees hour long run time*
*cracks drink*
Sit back boys, it's gonna be a long one
Shall I grab the popcorn?
And a snack?
Finally, a Pokémon that actually got BETTER after team preview was added
Rip Zorowark
Dugtrio: Pathetic fool
@@gastrodonenjoyer999I’ve seen enough temp6t videos to know that Zoroark is still and will always be a surprise to people despite having a visible list
@@TowelRangerdon't watch scripted videos. If you do than don't bring the point for comparison.
What I'd like to see in terms of Deoxys buffs are new abilities. Deoxys is from a time where they gave Pressure to most Ubers instead of Intrepid Sword, Shadow Shield, and Fairy aura, so now I present: new Deoxys form abilities:
Base form: Protean
Attack form: Sheer Force
Defense form: Regenerator
Speed form: Sturdy
Maybe huge power instead for attack form and battle armor for d-defense since it makes more sense as deoxys defense is covered in it's armor
@@eclipse2587 huge power is too broken, battle armor is too bad
@@Skullhawk13 true huge power is op but isn't battle armor good tho since it allows you to spam calm mind/cosmic power without worrying that a critical strike would just pierce through it or a critical strike putting you into kill range since recover won't heal enough?
@@eclipse2587there are no high crit rate moves used in uber, nor pokemon with super luck. On average regenerator or pressure would be better
@@Skullhawk13 well I guess that's true
When there is an entire meta-game designed around using one variation of your OP Pokemon to hard counter the version that you think your opponent is packing, you know you've truly created a monster.
Gen 6: "We will never suspect test Deoxys again"
Gen 7: *"Who the fuck's Deoxys?"*
NO MORE SWEARING PLEASE!
At least they kept their **FUCKING** promise
@@Amelia4111 lol
@@Amelia4111 MORE SWEARING PLEASE
Gen 9: "So uh hello d-speed you can stay I guess... No hard feelings right?" (In OU)
I think it may be worth noting that Deo-D went from Ubers in gen 7 to RU in Natdex all because of a pair of boots
Ouch....
As a kid I always thought the point of Deoxys-Normal was having balanced stats. You know, 100 in all stats like Mew or something similar. But I guess GF's concept of "Normal" was "Attack but worse."
Ooph, seeing him cover all Deoxys forms in one vid was impressive; cant wait for the 1+ hour rotom and the complexity of doing all arceus in one video.
*probably will do them separately, but the future awaits for them when their time is to shine.
Update: the arceus vid was surprisingly only 30 mins long
@@madjester9844 to be fair it’s not used in as many metas as deoxys
I remember that when I was 7, there was a playgroung rumor of a Deoxys Kings that has the attack, defense and speed of the other forms.
This video in a nutshell:
Ok so here's Deoxys Attack, and here are the other two that are not Deoxys Attack MOVING ON
Actually a lot of the video is about Deoxys Speed.
I love Deoxys simply because it's sort of "The Thing" of Pokemon, it's a ruthless sweeper or an untrippable tank, or an adaptive beast, but it always has a massive weakness that its victims can attack if they want any hope of killing it, sweet design that really compliments its playstyle.
14:52: I loved that alliteration there, it somehow emphasizes the already impressive weight of the message.
My god... the way you can hype a Pokémon up is outstanding. What an amazing intro. I never realized it till watching it for the 2nd time. Wow.
Deoxys-speed: “I fear no man, but that thing…”
*points to regieleki*
“…It scares me”
Regieleki: "At least you have a movepool. I have a movepuddle."
I wonder would the Deoxys forms fare in gen 8. Maybe with Dynamax
Still was the fastest Pokémon for 15 years
Excited to see FSG cover my favorite legendary Pokémon! Deoxys was always neat in my eyes but it’s recently really grown on me because of it being based on biology and biochemistry. Can’t wait to see this genetic juggernaut performed in the competitive scene!
finally this episode comes out, this is a staple on all of my uber teams, the physical set is so powerful, Superpower, Knock off, Extreme speed and Psycho boost. insanely powerful set
You mean physically based mixed set, you have psycho boost. Tho it doesn't need much investment to hit super hard (specially in terrain), I think deoxys attack has like 390 something base attack/spatk even uninvested right? Lol
@@vdd1001 something like that yeah, insanely cracked Pokémon dud, I’ve dropped half a team with just deoxys A. He doesn’t need special investment for psycho boost though, literally a 210 power move coming from 390 sp atk. He just shreds
Giving each form a different hidden ability to differentiate themselves further would be cool
Deoxys-A with Huge Power.
Deoxys-S with Speed Boost
These replies are scaring me…
How about the idea of each Deo form getting getting their own separate typing? Like deoxys-d becoming a steel type or deoxys-s becoming electric, etc.
I think Deo-A Gets the ice type (best offensive type) Deo-N gets Normal (of course) Deo-D gets steel (Best defensive type and Deo-S gets electric (Fastest type from an average standpoint)
Deoxys-Normal shouldve had more balanced stats, rather than being a worse Deoxys-Attack
Hp: 50
Atk: 120
Def: 95
Sp.Atk: 120
Sp.Def: 95
Spe: 120
Wouldve been a better stat spread imo
I SERIOUSLY can't wait until he remakes the Venusaur video!! Can't wait to see how long that one lasts. Especially when he starts on weather wars in Gen 5, mega evolutions in 6-7, and the tyranny that is gen 8 Gmax forms. And VGC
The idea of not being able to tell what Deoxys form you're facing in a GBA battle is terrifying to me, especially with no Team Preview. It's seems like how people expected Zoroark Illusion to be when people were first speculating about that.
When your main competition is you but more aggresive.
You: „You are weak!“
Also you: „I am you!“
You still: **visible confusion**
"Its so good it outclasses itself" Deoxys is pokemon's Chuck Norris
Deoxys Speed: NOOOO! I AM MEANT TO BE THE FASTED POKEMON
Regieleki: Haha light bulb go ZOOM
It’s nice to see that Deoxys TRIANGULATED it’s way to success
I was feeling kinda bummed in a rainy, lonely Sunday.
You have just saved my day with one of my most awaited reviews.
Thanks man
My favorite Deoxys moment is where he gets hyper beamed point blank by Rayquaza
I love that one.
Giving Deoxys-A Close Combat, Expanding Force and V-Create is some of the most cursed stuff I have ever heard about
Somewhere in an alternate timeline in the "Pokemon with multiple forms club":
Groudon: "I gained a 2nd form and plot armor just so I could try and kill a whale harder."
Kyogre: "I gained a 2nd form and plot armor just so I could try and kill a dinosaur harder."
Rayquaza: "I gained a 2nd form and plot armor just to babysit gods even harder."
Necrozma: "I have 4 forms and I came to earth from another dimension to eat the sun in an attempt to subside my never ending pain."
Deoxys: "I have 4 forms and came to earth in a *space* *Dorito* ."
Ah yes deoxys, the fastest mon in existence in speed form...
*gets outsped by bouncing bolt of electricity*
i mean, nothing is faster than light lmao
@@telmoth except an otter under Rain. No joke Floatzel under Rain Is tecnically the fastest Pokémon
@@Drakorre we're talking about the fastest in base stats, it being capable of being the fastest kind of doesn't matter. That's like if I said "Groudon with 4x speed is technically the fastest pokemon"
@@Barry972 no, Floatzel in rain with a choice scarf with 252+ speed EVs with x4 speed is the fastest
@@AshenDust_ Scarf eleki at 4x, with 252+ speed evs
Deoxys Base: Who are you?
Deoxys Attack: *I’m you but better*
Priority though...
@@gamesnig 50/50/50 Bulk is still rice paper that dies to priority in ubers. Bulk only matters if it helps you survive
@@Skullhawk13 yeah but it could have a chance against taking something atleast
@@gamesnig Not likely, actually. The Pokemon that are in the Ubers tier are extremely powerful, and having base 50 in any stat is already considered to be bad at best in any other tier. To put it into perspective: Deoxys Defense has a base 50 HP, and isn't even considered to be a good defensive Pokemon anymore, so what good do you REALLY think that the extra base 30 in it's defensive stats makes that big of a difference?
That's kinda the point since Attack Is a boosted form
Yes! Now we just need the 12 hour Arceus special!
Here from the future: Arceus was 33 minutes.
I feel like Deoxys-Normal's stat spread should have been 110 on every non-HP stat. I wonder what its viability would have been with such a stat spread. I'll never understand why Game Freak made it a bad version of Deoxys-Attack.
Because they didn't think of the alt forms until after Ruby/Sapphire.
Lemme answer this question, it would have been a worse arceus-psychic
It would have less 60 HP, 10 less in every stat, and worse movepool
@@Lrizu Hmm, you're right. That makes sense. It would've been too OP for OU, but outclassed in Ubers.
@@Lrizu arceus was introduced after deoxys
@@jaden8923 we are talking about current meta
12:40 this might be the saddest thing to ever happen to a Pokemon. Imagine never seeing play but unable to drop down to a lower tier for being too strong. And to add salt to injury, it was due to yourself in a different form. Being normal sucks
It's kind of a no brainer to use attack form over normal
I really hope Deoxys gets an active form-change ability at some point. Switching mid-battle would make it an amazing pokemon.
The problem with that is movepool. Attack, Defense, and speed want radically different moves.
I don’t think the world is ready for Aegislash 2
@@Skullhawk13 Yeah movepool would be something. But having defensive moves make it switch to say, defensive form. Just recover and get a ton of defense and tank a hit whilst also recovering half your health. Though I'm not quite sure how they'd have to divide the movepool. Maybe start as Normal form, change to speed for some support moves, defense for others, attack for any attacking move?
@@Skullhawk13 attack and speed have fairly similar move pools
@@cameronballz6154 you must be joking. Speed is a support member, Attack is a wall breaker.
FINALLY!
Been wating for this, for ever! Actually expected you to give us multiple videos, one for each form... but one hour long one works too X-D
45:17
I mean teeeeeechnically Deo-D is allowed in Gen8 NatDex OU, but Deoxys isn’t even in gen 8, so… idk just wanted to throw that out there lol
"How many times can you say Deoxys Speed in one segment?"
FSG: YES!
This is one of your best in a while! Such an amazing video! Thanks for the years of great content FSG :)
Can't wait for 4 generations of "UNFORTUNATELY Deoxys normal form was outclassed completely"
At the very least, there was the interruption of Deoxys-Normal being good against Deoxys-Speed and other leads
@@iantaakalla8180 and then by gen 7 all forms got the unfortunately
So Deoxys in Competitive Pokemon in a Nutshell is the pointing Spiderman meme?
Lol yeee
I'll break my episode streak of asking for that one thing to say you caught me off guard!
I was expecting Ferrothorn/TTar/Kyurem but this is a pleasent surprise!
Don't burn yourself out FSG, you did a great job
You could have easily made one video for each form, but I love this super long video!
It's the perfect companion for a meal since I can watch with while I cook, while I eat and it's still going when I'm washing the dishes!! :)
"The sad end of an era" Yeah the issue of dusk mane is big , but is completly affordable when you pair deoxys with the king of the tier, primal groudon and Arceus ghost, i was top 50 in ubers with hyper offense with deoxys
Just another testament to Gen 4 having been the pinnacle of niche and balance and complete Pokemon battling experience. Really truly ANY Pokemon could be used and useful in some way in its own way and it could flip flop anywhere between NU and Ubers.
Who’s ready for the 3 hour movie: How GREAT was ferrothorn actually?
The ferrothorn video will be like, 40 minutes at most. It's never dropped below OU, it hasn't got any new forms and was introduced in gen 5
@@lyingcorn true it's a almost a one trick pony honestly. The only thing added to it is interaction with new mons. but then again fsg keep surprising me on how long they make the video.
@@lyingcorn Ferrothorn works in VGC in Uber and non-Uber years alike, and is slightly different in singles vs doubles.
How FEROCIOUS was ferrothorn actually?
@@lyingcorn Lando, on the other hand...
Man! Congrats on such a long and thorough video about a multi-form Pokemon! It was awesome!
Yeah.... when it takes a Interdimensional God like Necrozma to dethrone a super alien it makes sense how powerful Deoxys has been, great video as always FSG
Deoxys is more like The Thing on Steroids than a Xenomorph.
But now I want Ninjask since its only niche in Ubers was killing Deoxys Attack/Speed forms
Unless it faced extreme speed variants no?
Deoxys normal success in gen 4 is one of the coolest things I've seen in mons ngl
YOU DON’T KNOW HOW LONG I’VE WANTED THIS THANK YOU KELLEN
That way that Deoxys Defense Rose to Ubers from UU in Gen 5 was such an inspiring story.
Idk why but it made me happy to hear it go up like that.
Thanks for putting the time and effort / research into compiling this much info on this poke! I fondly remember it from the Rayquaza movie so it's awesome to hear about its competitive past since I don't play comp.
dude! what an episode!
thanks to the fsg team for this high quality content!
Imagine if Deoxys got a mega evolution for each of its forms! I think it'd be safe to say we'd then have at least one other Pokemon to thank for creating the "Anything Goes" tier along side Mega Rayquaza. One thing I was thinking was unfortunate for Deoxys Defense was how it didn't get any boost to its HP, if it didn't have recover then I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up with Shuckle's problem of having incredible defense stats but without any HP to back them up. I'm pretty sure Mega Evolutions could have higher HP than their normal form, so if there was a Mega Deoxys Defense it might have taken Lugia's title of "The great wall".
The coolest Pokémon design hands down.
Deoxys is my favorite pokemon of all-time - so this video was bittersweet. Seeing it dominate every generation up to 7 was fulfilling, but seeing its fall in gen 7 and knowing it hasn't gotten a chance to redeem itself yet.... I really hope he comes back and gets some kind of buff. Also I think it's funny that Deo-D and Deo-S, despite having such different stat builds ended up having similar roles - because at the end of the day they were both just trying to get extra turns to stack hazards be it through speed or bulk.
32:56 Actual usage of Foresight in the competitive scene, never thought I would see the day
Scarppy
@@PyroPlays0 Hitmontop does not get Scrappy as an ability
Its funny how deoxys was outclassed by itself
Never knew why Normal Form has stats similar to Attack Form.
I’d imagine they came up with the formes AFTER they had already introduced normal forme. They just didn’t decide to give normal a niche later
Who remembers when the gengar video was considered “long”
Shout-out to Steven’s Psycho-Boost spamming Deoxys in Kaizo Emerald
When you take a week off to make a video worth the wait you don't mess around. This is fantastic quality
I want a Deoxys HP: a big ball fake cell with 190 HP, 70 Atk, 85 Def, 70 SpAtk, 85 SdDef, 50 Speed
So worse regidrago?
Deoxys attack is one of my favorite Pokémon. Just so brutal. The other forms are still pretty legit as well
Excited to finally see deoxys covered!
Deoxys was always my favorite mythical, I was so happy when they made it catchable in a main game.
Deoxys constantly adapting is much like a virus mutating to become harder to get rid of, which I think is a really cool coincidence considering Deoxys' orign