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  • Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
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  • @GR.
    @GR. Місяць тому +6192

    I love you man. We're lucky to have you

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari Місяць тому +234

      Sounds like he was lucky to have you. Which in turn makes is lucky to have you through him.

    • @loganmyall660
      @loganmyall660 Місяць тому +124

      Melee was lucky to have you, GR

    • @serguardian17
      @serguardian17 Місяць тому +43

      I love u GR

    • @brucepoop47
      @brucepoop47 Місяць тому

      Hey GR, I hope you're doing well.

    • @maxx5948
      @maxx5948 Місяць тому +26

      I've been watching your videos since I started playing smash when I was a kid. My friends would watch your videos around the lunch table while waiting for our turn to 1v1 on the 3ds. I love you man, hope you're doing well

  • @MarkiplierMeatMuncher8
    @MarkiplierMeatMuncher8 Місяць тому +4102

    "A video about Melee"
    "Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"

    • @LeetTron5000
      @LeetTron5000 Місяць тому +92

      you see AsumSaus, you click

    • @seanobrienplays688
      @seanobrienplays688 Місяць тому +16

      Blight was a cool villain.

    • @Linty_Deluxe
      @Linty_Deluxe Місяць тому +15

      Nobody ever makes videos on Godzilla Destroy All Monsters Melee for the Nintendo Gamecube

    • @smashkiller64
      @smashkiller64 Місяць тому +8

      @@Linty_Deluxe
      That’s because they’re cowards!

    • @thecatinthehat125
      @thecatinthehat125 Місяць тому

      Quite a lot, considering all the topics a video could potentially be about.

  • @CircleToonsHD
    @CircleToonsHD 28 днів тому +1180

    You're seriously one of the best to ever do this whole video making thing man

  • @thatgamingkiwi1630
    @thatgamingkiwi1630 29 днів тому +412

    Donkey Kong slowly climbing from a low tier to a high tier because of dedicated players has to be one of the greatest character arcs in history.

    • @B.L.U.S
      @B.L.U.S 27 днів тому +24

      takes his song to a whole new level
      "he is finnaly back, to kick some tail"

    • @nahor88
      @nahor88 21 день тому +26

      DK was only ever a low tier on paper. His potential revolves completely around his punish game. Players figured out how to maximize it, and take advantage of mistakes from those playing higher tiered characters. That honestly goes for a lot of low tiers; it's really difficult for them to win neutral, so they have to capitalize on every mistake their opponent makes.
      I think Aklo's Link is just as impressive a character arc, as he literally perfected new tech that helped Link win more neutral exchanges against better characters. I don't think that would have happened without Slippi.

    • @cwjalexx
      @cwjalexx 13 днів тому +1

      Haven’t played competitive melee for like 20 years and haven’t followed it, but I always considered dk upper end of mid tier. Feel like people in our region had a healthy level of respect for dk seeing players like bum go toe to toe with world class players using dk

    • @quillllly
      @quillllly 10 днів тому +1

      "slowly"

  • @happygamer787
    @happygamer787 Місяць тому +5292

    Ah yes, "glock in my toyota", classic gamertag...

    • @mazda9624
      @mazda9624 Місяць тому +72

      Wild that I read this commentnat the *exact* moment that part played

    • @kota69420
      @kota69420 Місяць тому +84

      A true inspiration to all gnw mains

    • @Its_Koala
      @Its_Koala Місяць тому +222

      Fun fact, glock is actually the best Super Monkey Ball 2 speedrunner in the world.

    • @AbefromanGW
      @AbefromanGW Місяць тому +34

      He's damn good too

    • @antehman2912
      @antehman2912 Місяць тому +2

      @@Its_Koalahe’s not the best is he?

  • @colossaldonut5190
    @colossaldonut5190 Місяць тому +2300

    I can't belive Asumsaus would upload a video about Melee how could anybody have seen this coming.

    • @aidanillg6617
      @aidanillg6617 Місяць тому +23

      I mean with how frequently he uploads i cant believe it either

    • @johnmarkson1998
      @johnmarkson1998 Місяць тому +5

      seeing the crossovers recently has been a breath of fresh air. both communities coming together to save smash as a whole.

    • @TheCrafter8000
      @TheCrafter8000 29 днів тому

      I really wasn't expecting him to get his Melee content all over me, but he really came.

  • @Fanaticalight
    @Fanaticalight Місяць тому +404

    23:12 This alone is an amazing detail with the scoreboard being obscured by Hungrybox's arm. Your editing just keeps getting better and better every single video
    I do want to say, you got me into the Melee scene. I don't play Melee, but I enjoy watching tourneys and stumbling across videos like this time-to-time.

  • @pasdidees24
    @pasdidees24 Місяць тому +276

    I think seeing PPMD fighting for his life and trying is best knowing all the shit he was going through at the time is the real hearthbreaking moment of battle of the five gods

    • @Instanence
      @Instanence 26 днів тому

      Fighting for his life is an interesting term for an overweight, cis, white male who played videos games for 9 months of his life before getting OoOoOoOh So StrEsSeD oUt wahh

    • @YeahImRose
      @YeahImRose День тому +1

      wait what happened back then? I'm out of the loop

  • @carsoncomplains
    @carsoncomplains Місяць тому +2403

    25:19 "3 rats using a gamecube controller" followed by "George Bush" is an insane combo

    • @FlittaLink
      @FlittaLink Місяць тому +81

      S tier names no one can tell me otherwise
      also “Shep I Have Tried Meditation” is also a wild one 😂

    • @theextremeloader1
      @theextremeloader1 Місяць тому +10

      I love the internet sometimes

    • @yuanwang9324
      @yuanwang9324 Місяць тому +40

      "glock in my toyota" melee always has so many gems

    • @GalekC
      @GalekC Місяць тому +13

      a jojo character followed by a baki character

    • @BadMann3rs
      @BadMann3rs Місяць тому +1

      Literally read this at that point in the video lmao

  • @ToonGavoone
    @ToonGavoone Місяць тому +1218

    It’s funny how Ness is so bad he wasn’t even included in the low tier section of the vid.

    • @SeanCMonahan
      @SeanCMonahan Місяць тому +117

      You're so bad, you can't even be good at being bad!

    • @jongyon7192p
      @jongyon7192p Місяць тому +80

      I *want* those glitches to become viable...

    • @Lucrei.
      @Lucrei. Місяць тому +18

      That's how bad only having two jumps is

    • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
      @diegodankquixote-wry3242 Місяць тому +40

      Female and male wireframe were neglected too, but no one points them out.

    • @Professor_Utonium_
      @Professor_Utonium_ Місяць тому +14

      He's pretty fun when you aren't some Melee competitive sweaty

  • @russiangenome9643
    @russiangenome9643 Місяць тому +214

    14:57 This is actually untrue, just last month there was a bowser who sometimes goes by “Loadspiller” or for this tournament “Heavenly bruised pelvis” beat rank number #57 fox main Billybopeep at tipped off 15!

    • @BobbinRobbin777
      @BobbinRobbin777 25 днів тому +9

      _…Ofc._

    • @arcanumdelta
      @arcanumdelta 19 днів тому

      ..I'm just sayin they ain't wrong for it....

    • @OctagonalSquare
      @OctagonalSquare 18 днів тому +21

      Those names are… something

    • @Eldoofus
      @Eldoofus 13 днів тому +5

      When I read that second nickname, all I can think of is Bowser's Down B.

    • @bigpapamanman1550
      @bigpapamanman1550 9 днів тому +4

      Playing the worst character in the game kind of obligates you to get a tag like loadspiller

  • @SlouchingBadger
    @SlouchingBadger Місяць тому +179

    Hey Asum, your "what is Melee" segment really struck a chord with me...
    I'm 31 this month and I got Melee upon it's release when I was 9 (PAL). This game brings back such vivid memories and feelings of my childhood when my bro (17months my junior) and I would play this gem together for hours and hours and hours.
    We shared a room and even when our parents sent us to bed, we'd lay in our beds, in the dark, talking about Melee and our favourite Nintendo games.
    Of course, when Brawl and other subsequent consoles and games released, the essence or Melee started to fade. Teenagehood started to envelope our lives and the ride we call "life" took off.
    I've got a house, a kid, a job and other responsibilities now. Life's not the same as it once was, and whilst I'm still happy, when I see your videos, I get a really vivid sense of nostalgia.
    This 20+ year old game that represented so much of my happiest memories is brought back into my life. Your videos act as some sort of continuation of the media that at some point stopped existing within my mental ecosphere.
    As is the nature of media, it has to end at some point. Whether it's a book, TV series, film, game or comic - it has to end so another can begin. But sometimes, seeing your favourite piece of escapism simply end is heart breaking, particularly when you feel so connected with it.
    We all know there'll never be a Melee 2 or some time travel device that will allow people to experience things for the first time again. But seeing someone so passionate about the game put out such well crafted and interesting videos and info about a game so sorely missed - it's like looking through a window at my childhood again.
    I don't actively follow Melee's competitive scene or even play Melee anymore, but I feel that's perhaps for the best, as it makes your videos all the more fresh and new.
    So thank you for allowing me to revisit my past with such delight. It's an odd sensation, and one that I don't know makes me sad or happy... but I do look back and appreciate what I have and had.

    • @Yachii
      @Yachii 29 днів тому +1

      Never too late to get back into it if you have the spare time and money

    • @Instanence
      @Instanence 26 днів тому

      Kid yapping over here about how his life was affected by a 20 year old childrens party game. Clearly not true since anyone who plays Melee is sub-human.
      Go back in time and touch grass.

    • @SlouchingBadger
      @SlouchingBadger 26 днів тому

      @@Instanence Didn't say it changed my life - just said it represented a good time in my life.
      Go fuck yourself x

    • @radiantansel202
      @radiantansel202 25 днів тому +5

      ​@@Instanence You don't get invited parties too often, do you

    • @birdbrid9391
      @birdbrid9391 25 днів тому +3

      @@Instanence you are more or less a decade younger than OP

  • @puggietaur
    @puggietaur Місяць тому +1681

    When we needed him most, he came back (I literally started rewatching your videos last night)

    • @deluxe1886
      @deluxe1886 Місяць тому +15

      I literally rewatch his videos every month

    • @happygamer787
      @happygamer787 Місяць тому +5

      Same tho, how did he know this was the time I was rewatching?

    • @NewSkater3000
      @NewSkater3000 Місяць тому +1

      welcome to the club

    • @frankmalditx
      @frankmalditx Місяць тому +1

      Lmao saaame literally fell asleep with the amsa video 😂

    • @religiouslyhealing5400
      @religiouslyhealing5400 Місяць тому +2

      So it wasn’t just me doing that

  • @mofire5674
    @mofire5674 Місяць тому +1437

    "Almost half the cast is unusable"
    "I refuse to play against low tiers"
    The same people....

    • @bluedistortions
      @bluedistortions Місяць тому +333

      Anyone who "refuses to play against low tiers" is afraid they're actually going to lose, and will get dunked on in UA-cam clips. If they really believed in their ability, they would be happy to show it.

    • @inplane9970
      @inplane9970 Місяць тому +133

      Honestly such an archaic mindset that I blocked out of my memory until this video re-surfaced it.

    • @levonschaftin3676
      @levonschaftin3676 Місяць тому +24

      @@bluedistortions sometimes you just don't want to play against a GnW, man. depends on one's mood.

    • @beefnoodlegaming
      @beefnoodlegaming Місяць тому +43

      Eh, in some fairness I've seen the same thing happen in other games where people don't like to play against the low tier picks since that's not terribly indicative of what you'll go against in tournament.
      Why practice against Pichu and G&W when you'll never see them in bracket? Of course, there's the chance you will see them in bracket but I hope I've delivered the mentality. Not to say I agree with it or do it myself, but I can see how a matchup like that can be "a waste of time".

    • @lukemagnotta7338
      @lukemagnotta7338 Місяць тому +34

      Not me, I refuse to play against Falco

  • @jmt9912
    @jmt9912 Місяць тому +100

    mang0 looks so much happier competing in those modern clips you shared, which says everything I think. thanks for showing the positive light of the melee scene - I love to see that evolution, when I remember so distinctly the long era of "no item, fox only, final destination". to the future, cheers!

    • @Instanence
      @Instanence 26 днів тому

      The "long era" you mentioned is a tired meme from lame - sorry I don't need to specify lame - Melee players.
      I assume he's happier now because he's realized his peak is playing an outdated childrens party game competitively as a grown alcoholic adult.
      Yikes! And you cheer for him? Yikes!

    • @boserboser6870
      @boserboser6870 23 дні тому +17

      ​@@Instanencemaking money doing that is better than a dead end job kid

    • @theonejackal89
      @theonejackal89 22 дні тому +19

      ​@@InstanenceI mean... He's enjoying himself. It's a competitive game that is his passion.
      Arguably, all pro sports players are just playing stuff they did as children as well, now to a professional and refined shine.
      He can enjoy himself, get paid while doing it, and be part of a great community.
      What's there not to like?

    • @TheDuckArmy12
      @TheDuckArmy12 22 дні тому +17

      @@Instanence You seem like a very unhappy person, projecting your sadness onto others

  • @Robbie_Haruna
    @Robbie_Haruna Місяць тому +293

    To be fair, Captain Falcon's knee is considered the best Forward Air in the game because while the sweetspot is extremely strong, the sourspot is also broken. Late knee can set up into a lot of ridiculous things for him. Zelda's sweetspot might be better, but it has to be spaced to get comparable reward to Falcon's knee and a sourspot lightning kick is *really* bad.

    • @mikerotch42069
      @mikerotch42069 28 днів тому

      cringe furry

    • @not2mportant.797
      @not2mportant.797 27 днів тому +10

      hehe. nerd.

    • @woomynation
      @woomynation 25 днів тому +35

      @@not2mportant.797 we're watching a video and channel about a 20+ years old game, nobody here is not a nerd

    • @BobbinRobbin777
      @BobbinRobbin777 25 днів тому +7

      @@not2mportant.797 anime pfp.

    • @randompencil2761
      @randompencil2761 21 день тому +3

      @@woomynationI’ll have you know that I’m no nerd. I just can’t help clicking on a video that has Mr game and watch on the thumbnail

  • @the_random6826
    @the_random6826 Місяць тому +362

    11:13-11:14. Marth's grab sticks out of the thumbnail, a true testament to how Marth's grab can't be escaped, no matter what realm you inhabit.

    • @futurefox128
      @futurefox128 Місяць тому +28

      Yup, and those are the actual thumbnails, not a video-editing trick. Very cool idea with the white border added except for the hand. Doesn't look good in dark-mode youtube though :(

    • @ColinJoesseppiVEVO
      @ColinJoesseppiVEVO 29 днів тому +1

      This dude is genuinely a master of his craft

    • @MultiCaiser
      @MultiCaiser 28 днів тому +1

      Unless you're Roy at 13:55.

  • @CrazyWS
    @CrazyWS Місяць тому +449

    I was not expecting "glock in my toyota" at all to be the name of the game and watch player who won lol

    • @nicostein9875
      @nicostein9875 Місяць тому +27

      G&W would be the one with a 9

    • @dripleaf465
      @dripleaf465 29 днів тому +6

      @@nicostein9875 yo thats cold

    • @wemakeasiansurveys4U
      @wemakeasiansurveys4U 29 днів тому

      He's a man with great taste in reliability. Except his main.

  • @JacksMelancholy
    @JacksMelancholy Місяць тому +47

    10:41 Great video; judging from the animation, I think you already know that クソゲ- (kusoge-) actually means “sh*t game,” but just wanted to clarify the irony in case anyone accidentally misinterprets your joke. 笑笑

    • @justinw.2168
      @justinw.2168 11 днів тому +3

      To add to this, he closes the video by saying "and that, is Melee as shit", which only works if he knows the actual meaning of kusoge 24:48

    • @an_annoying_cat
      @an_annoying_cat 10 днів тому +2

      isnt the way the term is used like a bad game but in an endearing way, like it has plenty of problems but its still fun?

    • @Josukegaming
      @Josukegaming 5 днів тому

      ​@@an_annoying_catCorrect!

  • @justing7202
    @justing7202 8 днів тому +4

    Its amazing that the songs in this video are original, you are seriously talented

  • @waddleking_
    @waddleking_ Місяць тому +424

    14:20 wow kirby got shafted in melee, from the escapable throws to weird hitboxes, at least hes cute

    • @DucksAndCatnip
      @DucksAndCatnip Місяць тому

      i heard some people want to shaft kirby themselves

    • @PinkReaper1
      @PinkReaper1 Місяць тому +31

      He does have one of the best up tilts in the game. Not the best(that's probably Fox) but definitely one of the best, he just doesn't have anything to take advantage of it lol

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 Місяць тому +27

      Sakurai himself admitted to nerfing kirby into uselessness on purpose so people don't think he is biased.
      Too bad he is obviously biased but in the opposite direction.

    • @yggdrasilsaltar
      @yggdrasilsaltar Місяць тому +9

      @@ghoulbuster1he disowned kirby as his franchise not even like 10 years in cuz he didnt want to make sequels all his life and now kirby (the video game franchise) is objectively in a better state than ever without him lmao

    • @Yostuba
      @Yostuba Місяць тому +2

      Kirbo is the strongest character in smash history. HE EATS GODS AND TURNS THEIR SOULS INTO FUNNY HATS&TOOLS. Kirbo itsself realized if he wasn't playing pretend fighting. Kirbo would kill everyone including destroying their very souls and being in reality&time within 5mins. Thus he acts all cute turning everyone into hats&brapping them out. Till master/crazy hand's shows up than *POYIMGOINGTOTURNYOURFUCKINGFINGERSTODUSTANDSNORTTHEMTOGETHIGHIKILLGODSFORFUNOPOYO* OO00ooo

  • @Kaiser25
    @Kaiser25 Місяць тому +224

    20:55 I may not be the one who wrote that message, but I feel the exact same way. Dope vid

  • @giullianogrimberg8488
    @giullianogrimberg8488 11 днів тому +6

    I played smash ultimate casually for some time with my friends, and like to watch youtube videos about it, and I just knew a bit about melee from hearing about it randomly from time to time, but never played it, and still never have. But I watch a lot of videos about it on youtube, and what made me begin consuming melee content was the “ there will never ever be another melee player like Hungrybox” which made me start watching Hungrybox from time to time. And then, on a random day I just thought “ what is it that makes Fox’s shine so good?”, I typed that on youtube, and found your video, and from that point was when is got really into melee as a whole, and not just Hungrybox.
    Keep up the amazing work.

  • @DarkVideogamer
    @DarkVideogamer 19 днів тому +3

    i like how you listed all the potential reasons for why someone may like or love melee and have the side note of '... fun' in the corner. thank you for the representation of those of us who like melee cause its fun.

  • @Bruh-yy3zb
    @Bruh-yy3zb Місяць тому +588

    The GOAT returns missed you AsumSaus

    • @Tactcat
      @Tactcat Місяць тому +1

      THE KING!

  • @professorc-dawgscastle8591
    @professorc-dawgscastle8591 Місяць тому +490

    Another perk of CRTs I don't see mentioned a lot is their incredible motion clarity. Their response times (distinct from input latency) are practically zero, so motion looks extremely clear and smooth compared to LCDs which take longer to clear the previous frame and draw a new one (causing a slight blurriness in motion that affects even high end monitors to varying degrees).
    Besides that, standard definition (480i) games just look way nicer on a CRT than upscaled on an LCD, especially if you have access to S-Video or component.
    They are definitely a pain in a lot of ways, though. With good maintenance and calibration you can dial in the geometry imperfections and reduce the area cut off by overscan, but that requires a non-trivial amount of expertise and work.
    Still love the bulky things though and really hope melee doesn't switch to monitors any time soon.

    • @oracidrep
      @oracidrep Місяць тому +41

      That's the actual advantage CRTs have over modern monitors, not input latency. If you understand how both systems work, you realize that there isn't just magically different input delay. The workaround is to have a higher refresh rate monitor that by necessity has better pixel response times and faster progressive scans.

    • @andrewbank4696
      @andrewbank4696 Місяць тому +6

      I've speculated that rtc is better on crt cuz of the frame clarity. I've yet to hear a good tech chaser confirm this tho.

    • @commscan314
      @commscan314 Місяць тому +7

      CRTs also can display true black in dark environments, unlike LCD panels (though this isn't relevant to Melee because even if the black leveling was like poorly configured component they'd still use them for their motion reasons).

    • @AL-lh2ht
      @AL-lh2ht Місяць тому +1

      No one makes CRT anymore so its a slowly dying tech.

    • @sheik124
      @sheik124 Місяць тому

      man, I need to get one of those ha-ha funny plastic screwdrivers, a life insurance policy, a day off, and adjust my PVM. in no particular order. flyback transformer scary 😢 you aren't going to get it "right" unless you do it with it on

  • @Xyrofen
    @Xyrofen 29 днів тому +14

    It's amazing to me how strong Melee is still going. I remember how much it felt like the game might go under multiple times, and here it is chugging along better than so many big games to come after it.
    All the tournaments in someone's house, garage, back yard, bonus room upstairs where we had to keep quiet, a house of a friend-of-a-friend of the TO. It's wild.

  • @Schmiduku
    @Schmiduku Місяць тому +1

    For me, your thumbnails have been something I look forward to the most. You weave a narrative in all of them, and they're genuinely funny to look at on their own ❤️

  • @davidvkimball
    @davidvkimball Місяць тому +159

    I adore your "What is Melee?" segment. You captured so well the idea that there are so many aspects of this game to love even if you aren't an active competitive player. That's certainly what's kept me in the content creation game for so long, and why I keep trying to contribute to it. I happen to love the game itself, but there's something to be said for these additional aspects you mentioned that can bring in a whole community, even people who don't strictly play the game.
    Thanks for another stellar upload!

  • @magicianstuff
    @magicianstuff Місяць тому +76

    0:00 Part I - Why the Big TV?
    4:28 Part II - The Game Changes, the TVs Don't
    10:35 Part III - The Myth of the Bad Character
    17:05 Part IV - What is Melee?
    20:55 Part V - The Last Battle of the Five Gods
    25:15 Credits

  • @benjaminracelis1992
    @benjaminracelis1992 29 днів тому +7

    Best script writer, editor, and creator in general, and it’s getting out of hand recently. I never walk away from any of your videos without feeling something. I’ve watched your amsa video 3 times a cried at the end each time. Love you man. Keep up the amazing work.

  • @zachman1483
    @zachman1483 23 години тому

    I’ve never got into melee competitively but I have a fond nostalgia for the game as I used to play it with my brothers and friends. Haven’t even played Ultimate in a while but the fact that Melee is still around competitively is more than fascinating. I think your videos are funny, SUPER well edited, and most importantly, insightful. This is one of your best yet, for sure.

  • @turndownforwalt
    @turndownforwalt Місяць тому +93

    20:12 I think this puts into words exactly how I've felt over the years when it comes to how I participate and engage with the community. I love playing but I don't consider myself a competitor by any means, and am for sure more interested in telling the stories of this game to people who may be interested in hearing them.
    It really means a lot to me to hear that sentiment from someone as legendary you, dude.

    • @waddlehi
      @waddlehi Місяць тому +11

      To me: People like asumsaus and you walt are pillars of the community. Its hard to truly grasp what happens in melee sometimes so seeing you two break down important moments and events to us truly does spread smash bros to those who have trouble grasping it. You two are some of the gods of smash youtube.

  • @Eishous
    @Eishous Місяць тому +317

    This is truely a "ideas from my Smorgasbord notes" type video

  • @JackKnots
    @JackKnots Місяць тому +27

    0:09 please no

  • @hiiihypo
    @hiiihypo 20 днів тому +1

    the music in the five gods segment is so good, awesome that its original! the amount of effort you put into your videos is unmatched

  • @varietychan
    @varietychan Місяць тому +225

    The DK part shows that more characters are viable in Melee than most people think

    • @PigeonLord21
      @PigeonLord21 Місяць тому +20

      Maybe if people didnt quit on lower tiers, more good characters could be discovered sooner. I wonder how much quicker these developments could've happened if it weren't for ignornace

    • @nyon7209
      @nyon7209 Місяць тому +39

      The year is 2XXX, and today, player xDrzl made melee history, being the first person in over a decade to win a super major with Fox, the game's worst character.

    • @NTelling
      @NTelling Місяць тому +13

      The esports era of gaming. Players that have a competitive mindset will copy what the pros play. If those pros can't figure out how to make a strat/character work in a competitive setting, a lot of players will write it off as trash. It's present in any game with a competitive playerbase.

    • @DEClimax
      @DEClimax Місяць тому +6

      @@NTelling DK was written off eons before the "esports era" made its way to smash or the larger FGC

    • @LgMONSTAa
      @LgMONSTAa 28 днів тому

      I mean, isn't this exactly what happened to Jigglypuff? If I recall correctly, Jigglypuff was considered to be low tier until Hungrybox popularized the character, after which the conversation switched to Jigglypuff being a high tier, and eventually with the conversation even shifting to the topic of whether or not Jigglypuff was so broken that it was unhealthy for the game.

  • @blazethegame
    @blazethegame Місяць тому +663

    The term “kusoge” perfectly describes melee. For those of you who don’t know the actual meaning, it means a shitty game that is incredibly fun because of (or despite of) a ton of bugs and bad game design choices.

    • @commscan314
      @commscan314 Місяць тому +51

      That just sounds like every Source game ever man

    • @blazethegame
      @blazethegame Місяць тому +86

      @@commscan314 difference is that games like tf2 is that tf2 has incredibly intelligent game design imo, but the bugginess definitely fits the definition lol

    • @commscan314
      @commscan314 Місяць тому +54

      @@blazethegame Blast jumping is technically a physics exploit carried over all the way from Quake, and is pretty much a staple of Soldier and Demo play. It's basically like the wavedash of TF2.

    • @blazethegame
      @blazethegame Місяць тому +6

      @@commscan314 for real

    • @woahbro665
      @woahbro665 Місяць тому +129

      It actually just means shit game. The positive connotation it has is because a lot of people omit the "(although) it is kusoge, (however) I love this game" due to the context of the conversation. Japanese people still call bad games they don't like kusoge.

  • @thehartmann
    @thehartmann 19 днів тому

    20:58 honestly, same. I dont play Melee or watch any tournaments or livestreams or anything... But i love your videos and watch every single one of them, keeping me engaged with Melee. And truly, thank you for that

  • @DiamondIceNS
    @DiamondIceNS Місяць тому +173

    I will never play Melee. I gain nothing from the grindset of figuring out how to play the game well. I don't like to compete in high-level play. I don't even watch games or tournaments. I derive no joy from playing the game, nor watching it being played. But boy howdy do I love the game, and I will gladly sit and learn so much about it, from you and others.
    The sheer amount of passion that surrounds this game, the way players put in so much time and effort to push what we ever considered to be possible, the way specific aspects of it get so mythologized, the way it takes this roster of all-star characters we all know and gives them all unique purpose and meaning so powerful that it has retroactively changed who they are and how we perceive them on the greater scale, it's all so very wonderful. Smash in general, but in large part Melee specifically, is such a unique cultural touchstone in these regards. Its appeal is so broad and multifaceted that even I, from three blocks down only hearing the thumping of the bass in the distance and seeing the lights on the horizon, can feel like I'm also at the party.

    • @reassuranceneeder
      @reassuranceneeder Місяць тому +7

      Well put

    • @j_c_93
      @j_c_93 Місяць тому +1

      You can play yhe game without engaging in high level or competitive play. The game literally wasn't even designed around that in mind. I've been playing this game since it came out and I've never been interested in "competitive" - I just like the have fun with items, themed matches, epic 99 stock brawls, all the different stages, etc... plus, the event matches and trophy collecting is fun

    • @paltaaa608
      @paltaaa608 Місяць тому +17

      This is probably the most eloquent and interesting opinion ive ever seen on youtube comments, if you ever did short essay videos I would watch the all in a heartbeat

    • @bejcsmith334
      @bejcsmith334 Місяць тому +3

      PREACH

    • @tkienjoyer
      @tkienjoyer Місяць тому +2

      I don't try that hard, right?

  • @azuquirtle
    @azuquirtle Місяць тому +76

    He said it was the single happiest moment of his entire life, but I don't think I've ever seen hbox so calm

    • @cousinpatsey2471
      @cousinpatsey2471 Місяць тому +36

      He ascended into a moment of perfect mental clarity.

    • @HappyYummmy
      @HappyYummmy Місяць тому

      then the drugs startee soon after

    • @aidnyan
      @aidnyan 29 днів тому +1

      he has to pop off nowadays to keep up his energy because hes old

  • @TheThinKing
    @TheThinKing 12 днів тому

    I played melee with my brother and sister avidly. We had played Smash 64 at parties before so having the big new upgrade at home was huge for us. A lot of happy times were had just screwing around, trying all the settings and modes and trying to see everything we could together.
    Hearing from you about melee's continued phenomenon means a lot to me. Our happy times we shared are behind us in the peculiar form of melee, (we're still close but we moved apart,) but they live on for so, so many others each in their own way. A big siblinghood worldwide across time. It's a beautiful thing.

  • @tommykibbleton
    @tommykibbleton Місяць тому +3

    honestly that part near the end about being a melee fan despite not playing it kinda hit close to home for me. was obsessed with comp smash a few years ago but didn't really have anyone to play with due to being in an awkward region of australia and it being like the mid 2010s where no one really cared about the game lol, so i used to just watch heaps of clips from grsmash and play against cpus on my 3ds or in dolphin. it was a fun period of time despite being in my own little bubble, and even tho i don't play smash anymore, i still like to watch you and many other people's videos about the game, as well as see what's going on with the community since it is such an old and interesting scene that reminds me a lot of other games i still love and play.
    great video as always!!

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog Місяць тому +119

    AsumSaus video about Melee? No way!

    • @MrJoshsss
      @MrJoshsss Місяць тому +1

      A vid about melee for melee players

  • @sodalitemk
    @sodalitemk Місяць тому +26

    holy crap that outro music was so good I stayed for the credits

  • @Kudzucrew
    @Kudzucrew Місяць тому

    The "Melee continues to evolve" segment of the video is powerful. And I mean that.
    Your words leading into it, the storyline of eras changing, and the music that you made. Truly a masterpiece in making us feel sorrow, but also...satisfied.
    All this to say:
    You are really good at what you do, man

  • @Oshawatt
    @Oshawatt 26 днів тому +2

    SHEP FINALLY TRIED MEDITATION. THIS IS THE MOST UNPRECEDENTED EVENT IN MELEE HISTORY

  • @justkon1789
    @justkon1789 Місяць тому +34

    Oh boy, it’s about that time of year when I watch a dude make an awesomely crafted video of a game I’ve played less than 5 times as a kid

  • @idavid8391
    @idavid8391 Місяць тому +76

    4:26 "Anyway." *Two frames of an explosion immediately followed by an ad*

  • @p_ssum
    @p_ssum 28 днів тому

    what a cathartic piece. this is the single best answer ive ever seen to people questioning how this game is still alive, and im glad this community has someone of your talents in both video-making and writing to speak for everyone in a way nobody else has ever been able to. incredible work man

  • @morosepapaya
    @morosepapaya Місяць тому

    I got into Melee because of you, AsumSaus. I played the game when I was little, but switched to Brawl when it came out as that was what my friends were playing. Coming back to this game as an adult was sparked by your content exploring the wacky aspects of the game I had no idea of, but more than that, it was your explanation of your own journey to learning how to play competitively. Funnily enough, I started trying to learn on some top tiers like Falco and Captain Falcon. However, after a friend randomly told me to try DK, he's been my main ever since. Watching the community take note of things I noticed from the onset with DK has been fascinating to see and shows how much this game will continue to evolve. A lot of people refer to the recent surge as 'Slippi Kids', I prefer to think of myself as an AsumSaus kid.

  • @kennythekid130
    @kennythekid130 Місяць тому +6

    This video makes me feel like Melee will truly never die as a concept. So much passion involved in every aspect in and out of the game. Despite playing way less than I used to, I feel even more connected with the scene as it changes and improves every year

  • @alecrutz6979
    @alecrutz6979 Місяць тому +5

    16:02 what an absolutely WILD name for a gamertag

  • @Berd
    @Berd Місяць тому +4

    hey wait that pea pod looked a little suspicious

  • @giancarlopenalba2616
    @giancarlopenalba2616 Місяць тому +1

    I feel the same as that one guy who messaged/commented. I also don’t keep up with Melee, nor do I play it outside of very few and far between casual occasions with my childhood best friend (with items), but I find the whole thing so incredibly interesting and nowadays it’s pretty much just thanks to you.

  • @BongGoDMelee
    @BongGoDMelee Місяць тому +33

    As a 10 year veteran of the scene I would just like to say that I have heard more new players & casual fans cite your channel as their introduction to Melee than any other source. You’ve genuinely done so much for the scene and brought in countless new players by promoting the quirky and beautiful nature of Melee.
    Truly appreciate your effort so so much, things like this keep the fire going for the new generation. Much love 💛

    • @EnergyBurst2
      @EnergyBurst2 Місяць тому +1

      I won't lie, this video has actually made me want to try going to/finding locals again after over half a decade away from local tournament play that I used to do weekly.

    • @BongGoDMelee
      @BongGoDMelee 27 днів тому

      @@EnergyBurst2 you absolutely should! It’s good for your soul

  • @electroman3569
    @electroman3569 Місяць тому +24

    awesome video!! its unfortunate that this was made before Tipped Off 15, where a Bowser player by the tag Loadspiller from Massachusetts beat billybopeep, a top 100 player! shoutouts New England Melee

  • @georgeisbester2942
    @georgeisbester2942 5 днів тому

    I don't play or even watch melee but I keep coming back to your videos man, your work is incredible.

  • @davidolinger3948
    @davidolinger3948 23 дні тому

    I just downloaded slippi 2 days ago after watching competitive since I was 10 in 2015, I’m so glad this game exists and people like you keep making amazing content to keep it alive

  • @lameboi1278
    @lameboi1278 Місяць тому +48

    He knows we’ll watch anything about melee

  • @michealmach
    @michealmach Місяць тому +17

    This feels like an hour long video essay in a good way

  • @dyska7
    @dyska7 15 днів тому

    I'm actually really happy you mentioned ulti players that watch melee because it's a more entertaining spectator experience. This was exactly how I was for a number of years, until recently when I finally decided to finally try to really get into the game. Now I have an even higher appreciation for what this 20+ year old game is able to do and how much it has grown

  • @JayS96Bruh
    @JayS96Bruh 27 днів тому

    It’s nice to see you upload again. I haven’t even touched Melee since like 2017 but your videos are always much watches for me. DK taking games off of top tier players? Unthinkable. I won some very minor locals 10 or so years ago but Melee is a game I just can’t completely step away from. Watching people continue to develop a meta and push the limits of a game I played during my childhood is just so entertaining to watch.

  • @anomaletix
    @anomaletix Місяць тому +9

    i don't think i'll ever play melee extremely seriously, only watch (mainly because no local scene, slippi just isn't the same as getting up close and personal and gaming it out) but videos like these are always fucking awesome to watch. there's just so much passion in the melee community in all aspects that is just inspirational to see. god bless you asumsaus

    • @parkourboio1062
      @parkourboio1062 Місяць тому

      let's fuckin go joey claire

    • @averyminya
      @averyminya Місяць тому +3

      I just got slippi set up after feeling similarly for a long time. It was like riding a bike, after 3 or 4 games I was doing shine OoS combos. Slippi used to be pretty sweaty, but yesterday and today the few hours I played had a pretty wide range of skill levels. If you are lucky enough to have a good internet connection (pretty much anything but a CG/NAT, then you'll need a VPN) it's a nice way to revisit it. You're right that it's not the same, but they've added nice chat phrases between games that make it wholesome.

  • @traviseaves5195
    @traviseaves5195 Місяць тому +11

    I haven't played smash in years, and this channel is one of those I'll come back to often to rewatch/listen to.
    Always a treat when we get another one.

  • @SaruNinja
    @SaruNinja Місяць тому +3

    i wasn't sure where the video was going for a bit, and then i found myself thoroughly enjoying how it all came together for your thesis in the latter half of the video (the "what is melee?" section). there really are a ton of moving and disparate parts that make up the idea of "melee", and i thought it was pretty clever how you used a bunch of seemingly unrelated discussions about melee (CRTs, recent DK performances, mods and training tools, the best moves belonging to some "bad" characters, melee video content, etc.) to demonstrate this notion. brilliant stuff! :)
    (also just a minor correction - in the japanese at 14:30, the yellow translation actually belongs to the japanese text two lines *below* the yellow highlight)

  • @nekitaesperon
    @nekitaesperon Місяць тому

    I loved the bit about aspect ratios, because as someone who loves editing videos, your style is inspiring. I feel like there's an untapped potential in 4:3 that was immediately abandoned by the sweeping popularity of HDTVs, and now a lot of games have a complete disregard for screen real-estate. More importantly, the way you visualize and explain these topics feels like you are just as interested in what you are creating, and it shows because it just keeps getting better with each video. Keep it up!

  • @therealsuperskills
    @therealsuperskills Місяць тому +10

    this is honestly a beautiful video and an incredible watch

  • @Siinory
    @Siinory Місяць тому +3

    What a fantastic documentary about Melee as a whole, I've been watching your channel for years now and despite not being a player nor spectator of tournnaments, I still tune in to your incredibly made videos and I'd be lying if I'd say it didn't make me want to play the game and learn it. I installed and setted up Slippi and will learn Peach once I have the time to do so. Thank you for your work for all these years.

  • @Lightningaxe15
    @Lightningaxe15 Місяць тому

    Holy shit this video made me feel something. Like I never feel like leaving a comment and I am here sort of something. Nostalgia and regret mostly. Friends I no longer talk to, my brother who I've had a falling out with. Just having to be an adult and not even having time to keep up with the current melee. God do I wish for simpler times. Gonna make me cry. This just hit so hard. Keep up the good work I guess.

  • @Josukegaming
    @Josukegaming 5 днів тому

    Amazing video, ive barely ever played Melee but i love the deep changing scene around it and incredibly detailed and passionate videos like these.

  • @kirbyx2573
    @kirbyx2573 Місяць тому +33

    I can confirm, this is a Video about Melee. For the Gamecube. That aside, hell yea New upload! This is gonna be a fun one!

  • @archivalstorage
    @archivalstorage Місяць тому +92

    8:33 "Diamond dozen" is either an inside joke I'm missing or a very funny bone apple tea situation

    • @carbonatedmilk1
      @carbonatedmilk1 Місяць тому +2

      i think it was just said weirdly

    • @aboringperson9069
      @aboringperson9069 Місяць тому +28

      "Dime-a-dozen", isn't it?

    • @Fallout0SC
      @Fallout0SC Місяць тому +1

      "bone apple tea"
      >XD

    • @ErikReischitz
      @ErikReischitz Місяць тому +29

      I think it's on purpose. He also says "two peas and a pot" right at the start of the video and it sounds deliberate.

    • @SSB_Seal
      @SSB_Seal Місяць тому +37

      He also says "blessing in the skies" instead of "blessing in disguise". It's definitely all an intentional joke 🤣

  • @pghmiko
    @pghmiko Місяць тому

    beautiful video oomfie, wanted to say that i still remember and love your video "goodbye, melee" when we got dropped from evo in 2019, which this video feels reminiscent of
    thank u for many years of good videos and take care

  • @abcluigi21
    @abcluigi21 Місяць тому +4

    Now wonder this video took 11 months, this is probably like Top 100 best edited video on the platform

  • @flaviusarcadiusvibes
    @flaviusarcadiusvibes Місяць тому +11

    I watched this video twice through. Why did mango make me tear up? Why is the only video on UA-cam that I've ever finished and hit replay about a game I havent played since being a child, 18 years ago? Just Melee things I guess.

  • @mayaknopp39
    @mayaknopp39 Місяць тому +4

    Dude, @AsumSauce, this is really good content. I don't EVER comment on videos, but I wanted to here to say that I find you to be an S-tier content creator.
    Funnily enough, despite wanting to, I don't play Melee. It just happens to be the game I enjoy *watching* the most. I am stuck on Ultimate due to not having a good Melee setup. Working on getting a modded Wii going.
    Anyway, just wanted to give you maximum interaction points and say thanks for making the content that you do!

    • @mayaknopp39
      @mayaknopp39 Місяць тому

      Also,@AsumSauce, I humbly offer writing skills if that is reason that you don’t make Melee tournament recaps anymore. They made me a better player and happier.
      I just want writing credits for the scripts in some capacity. :))

  • @romacho8467
    @romacho8467 28 днів тому

    I haven't played a single match of Melee in my life, however, my attention was drawn when I saw a couple of D1 clips and his famous DESSSSSSTRUCTION calls, then I stummbled upon your chanel and was immediately hooked. I payed attention when you talked about technical stuff about Melee and I screamed and smiled when your aMSa video came out, you're a great story teller and I'm glad I found your chanel, your community and the FGC in general are awesome!

  • @Meta_Crystal
    @Meta_Crystal Місяць тому

    You… almost made me cry. Thank you, for everything I can’t put into words. There’s so much explained and covered so beautifully, that it’s going to define how I explain this game to the people I love. I’ve come to realize with this video, that I love every single part of Melee, as a concept. I hope you realize that you’ve helped people process internal struggles with the content you put out. Thank you, Asumsauce.

  • @chester1882
    @chester1882 Місяць тому

    well damn, this video made me nostalgic for Melee despite me never interacting with it outside of AsumSaus.
    Hats off to you Mr Saus!

  • @VaporStation1
    @VaporStation1 Місяць тому +5

    As someone who’s been watching melee since around 2014/2015, the ending got me super emotional just thinking about how far the game has advanced since then. Great video

  • @10Gpixels
    @10Gpixels Місяць тому +11

    It was your channel that got me more into Melee than Ultimate in around 2018. You're so good at conveying the magic of Melee, it's no doubt that countless players have come to Melee because of your videos.
    Thank you for being an inspiration.

    • @MatthewBakke
      @MatthewBakke Місяць тому +1

      I haven’t played Melee in yeaaaars, but videos like this have gotten me extremely invested in tournament outcomes.

  • @saladangel
    @saladangel Місяць тому

    I havent consumed or played any sort of smash content for years because I dont enjoy the games anymore, but I will still always watch your videos because they are so well made and make melee enjoyable again

  • @LOoSeCaNnOn223
    @LOoSeCaNnOn223 29 днів тому

    Just wanted to stop by and say amazing upload - watched it after work as I was already badgering my wife about the joy and insanity that is melee and this video helped me articulate a lot of the “Why” it’s so cool. Inspired to contribute to melee and things that I have passion for in some way.
    I thought you had been in the community a lot longer with the content you make, but showing that GRSmash got you into it was chefs kiss.

  • @jacobcore6278
    @jacobcore6278 Місяць тому +11

    "Shatter the grass ceiling" is an instant add to my vocabulary.

  • @TheNapol
    @TheNapol Місяць тому +318

    What makes me feel sad is that someday, the five gods will all be retired from melee, ushering a new era of melee.

    • @paz8723
      @paz8723 Місяць тому +12

      Maybe we shouldnt give random, usually pretty bad people the title of "God"
      So cringe

    • @InsanityReborn
      @InsanityReborn Місяць тому +46

      What makes me sad is that era is likely not going to understand why and how they earned that title in the first place, since it's comparatively easier to hit what we'll say "their level" at this point. The time, effort, focus and sheer natural ability they have and *had* makes the amount of work they put in feel far less significant.

    • @Neuvost
      @Neuvost Місяць тому +50

      As the wind turns stone into sand, even Gods may die. Only Melee will endure.

    • @queuedjar4578
      @queuedjar4578 Місяць тому +72

      @@paz8723 No one is perfect homie. The God title is something done to commemorate their dominance in the game which is something commendable in a game as difficult to compete in as Melee.

    • @sorrydudebros
      @sorrydudebros Місяць тому +7

      @@InsanityReborn I've felt the same for newer fighting games that are practically designed from the ground up to be as accessible as possible *cough* Strive *cough* and it makes me pretty sad.
      Like yeah, you can reach their level "skill" wise and win, but people will forget the time, effort, and most importantly passion that the pioneers had to put in in order to be well, pioneers in a less clear environment. And then call themselves way better since they're the new generation. I don't know.

  • @CaptainDiagram
    @CaptainDiagram Місяць тому

    UA-cam videos on fighting games are the only videos that can move me like this, despite the fact I usually don't even play the games each video talks about. I feel the community behind each game is something extremely difficult to recreate in other genres.

  • @spx_4881
    @spx_4881 Місяць тому

    i have never touched melee, not even in my childhood a single time, but i have many hours seeing channels like grsmash, hungrybox, vgbootcamp and obviously your channel. idk why this game is soo hype to watch, the community around this game blows my mind now days, keep going with this amazing videos man

  • @IScreemCone
    @IScreemCone Місяць тому +56

    I actually said “oh my god” like a giddy little girl when I saw this lmao

  • @jessie1078
    @jessie1078 Місяць тому +12

    5:31 "this looks really hard for puff" LMFAO never change Hbox chatters

    • @levonschaftin3676
      @levonschaftin3676 Місяць тому

      LMFAO - bet you didn't even smile typing that. zoomer trash

  • @soralese
    @soralese Місяць тому +2

    I know most of the songs in this video were originals, but I’d love to hear the one that’s starts at 24:20 in full. Great video and editing. It makes me happy to still see content like this and about melee no less.

  • @ZayZenBlaze
    @ZayZenBlaze Місяць тому

    Really gotta get back to playing Slippi and Melee as a whole. Once upon a time I played competitive Melee online but never entered any tournaments. It was one of the first times I was super into a fighting game and it really changes how you look at things (I tried to make sure I was still having fun). Watching your videos and just thinking back makes me nostalgic and there's never been a better time (at least for me), given I'm in a bit of a dry spell fighting game wise. Love your videos man and thank you ^_^

  • @EvanFrenchArtwork
    @EvanFrenchArtwork Місяць тому +3

    So cool to see someone else have the same perspective when it comes to the game in forms of content creation. I've spent the past 3 years as a vendor at a majority of the smash events (my booth is in the background of some clips lol). While I haven't played Melee in a long time due to Ultimate being more my pace, I would still watch Melee over any other game in a heartbeat. Even if I don't play it, I still have such a deep connection to it from the people I meet, the work I've been able to do for events or for other content creators, and overall the atmosphere of togetherness the scene has. There is NOTHING that will ever have the same level of connectedness that Melee does, and I will never miss out on it when given the chance. In a game over 20+ years old at this point, and the meta STILL evolving through Yoshis and Donkey Kongs, you better believe I'm gonna watch it unfold, and do whatever I can to show people just how special this game is.

  • @thisisfyne
    @thisisfyne Місяць тому +20

    I love Melee because the players, from all ranks, have a genuine love for the game too. It's not about money or fame or sponsors or anything like that. Sure, those things are part of the whole, but the love of the game comes first - and that despite Nintendo itself being an active antagonist to the Smash Bros communities. The people made Melee what it is today and are keeping it alive with nothing but passion, and that's beautiful.
    Also, competitive Melee has proven itself to be a very accessible game (ie. easy to understand mechanically and visually) while having insanely complex intricacies and infinite possible outcomes and upsets. Some sets are won or lost on a split second unexpected move. After 20 years, the skill level of the top players has reached a god tier level of technicality only seen in far less accessible games (Starcraft, DOTA, etc) that are virtually impossible to grasp unless you already have a deep understanding of their rules.
    But not Melee. Even at the highest levels, it always remains clear and consistently enjoyable. It's just fun to watch and the players constantly reinvent the meta of the game itself. It's so easy to catch a set at any point and immediately be on the edge of your seat.
    Melee is a community of underdogs keeping the game they love alive against all odds, and pushing it to a level never imagined by anyone alive in 2001.
    Thank you, Melee

    • @Keyourasa
      @Keyourasa Місяць тому +4

      as mango once said "me and cody will be competing in the back alley of a dennys for 5$ and dinner, but melee will never die" and i think thats fucking beautiful.

  • @felixtc9655
    @felixtc9655 28 днів тому

    It's been hard to get as excited with the changes in the big names in the scene lately, so a video like this was real welcome helping to keep the perspective on why the scene is so damn amazing.

  • @Nicktendo123
    @Nicktendo123 Місяць тому +3

    Asumsaus, when I needed you most, you answered my prayers. We missed you sooooooooooooooooooo much!!!!

  • @zidemelee
    @zidemelee Місяць тому +3

    This channel is ALSO the reason I picked up Melee, now I keep up with it and practice in my own time
    Sick ass channel, seriously

  • @focusprx
    @focusprx День тому

    I played melee casually at my grandparents house when I was a kid and still love watching content on it. I don’t played melee but I love the content and story around it.

  • @t.kayotix
    @t.kayotix 14 днів тому

    I love your videos man, this is great. Ngl you pretty much introduced me to the world of Melee, it’s community, and it’s mechanics, keep it up yo

  • @Daft0Cean968
    @Daft0Cean968 Місяць тому +3

    What's always surprising to me is to see how many people seem to straight up dislike playing Melee in the community. I don't even have slippi or any local scene at all where I live, but Melee is one of my favorite games to play with mates. Something about combo's and the movement is beyond satisfying and unmatched