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Amazing Chipping - It took me 26 years to learn this one thing
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- Опубліковано 2 гру 2014
- I'm excited about this video and if you learn this one thing and use it in every area around the green no matter what you technique you will become better and more consistent than you have ever been, in fact you'll become dangerous!! dm
In the 70s it was fashionable to build "cloverleaf" greens which meant from some positions you could not putt directly to the hole. Gary Player was asked what he would do in such a situation and he said "I would chip it and take 3 or four practice divots for spite"
It's like an extended putting stroke. As a kid, I used to practice this technique in the carpeted hallway of the house... and I was a fearless chipper back then. Thanks for the reminder!
+Jim Jones I do this daily in my house with foam balls :) It is exactly how I taught myself to golf, and I'm always surprised at the divots I see others leave or the shovels of sand they splash up onto the green. Glad to see I'm not the only one who subscribes to this :)
one of the few guys who understood lol
I was chipping on bare lie at my countryclub practice green in 1986 when i discoverd this shot! I was so excited i wrote down the date and sketched on notebook my feet position and ball position. I began to get attention from others. They just looked at me like this shot cant be repeated but it can over and over, from hardpan lie. You explained how it is done perfectly. Just remember the head has to be really still on this one. Few people know about this shot and it has got me within 2 feet many times.
If my greenskeeper would see me doing this, the sport would change from golf to boxing
it will take me 26 years to forget this
Holy Crap! This is the method of chipping that I have used for the past 20 years. I was never taught this, but found this by experiment and lots of practice. Combining this method with a quality, predictable golf ball instead of buying what's on sale (I only play ProV1 or ProV1x) has helped to make my short game the overwhelming strength of my game. It's nice to play 18 holes of golf and have a large number of one putts (I've had as many as twelve in a single round). I have even expanded this method out to around a 50 or 60 yard distance, with great success. Here in Florida we have a lot of tight lies, especially in the winter on courses that do not overseed. I have even joked that I could chip accurately off of concrete (not a good idea in reality)! Thanks Dave for confirming my method. I definitely support this recommendation. I have had a lot of golfers ask me over the years how I am able to chip so accurately. The next time someone asks, I'm going to refer them to this video! Keep up the good work!
The flat swing helps, but the real trick is revealed at the 2:40 mark; keeping the handle ahead and using the bounce of the club to slide along the ground instead of getting the hands ahead and hitting the ground with the leading (digging) edge of the club. Sometimes you need to use the digging edge, but obviously not when chipping on the green. Check out Jim Hardy's Plane Truth Vault lessons on the short game for a great demo. This demo is actually not very flat on the forward swing and is dangerously close to skulling the shot; Hardy explains perfectly how the swing plane has to be at least as flat in the forward swing as in the backswing.
keep your arms in on chips. the best thing I worked out was to have the feeling of your elbows pinned to your sides. More importantly your left on the swing through. All you have to do is have no tension in your hands. It will make you turn through the ball like crazy. Many people let the club get away from their body when they chip. If you keep the club close you'll get those crisp contact chips
Now 5 years late to the discussion, I used to get similarly reliable results chipping on indoor/outdoor carpet, especially when it was glued directly on concrete slab without padding. May have been warned by wife about scalding chips across the patio at first but at least I never worried about Course Superintendents. Wife is much more tolerant now that I am chipping better and since she stopped trying to "play through" without my permission.
I began practicing on the practice green about one week ago with all my wedges and with the shallow swing I used, I never made a single mark on the green. I realized that this practice made me understand the best way to chip even before I have seen this video. I have finally found a very good method to progress in the golf game
This is excellent instruction. I started shallowing out my chipping recently after constantly gouging and duffing. One must use the bounce of the club! Many amateurs don't have enough bounce on their wedges or they hold a too-strong grip which can shut the face just enough to catch the leading edge. I approach it like I'm putting, but with loft...arms hanging down naturally and rotating with the torso, ball center of stance and shaft leaned forward only just slightly. I use 14 deg bounce on my 56 wedge and was chipping them tight last week. Great stuff! Just be kind to your greenskeeper and they'll be kind to you.
I discovered this method about 4 or 5 years ago. I'm 72 years old now. I practice constantly on the chipping green. The method I use differs slightly from yours. No arms. No wrists. No (or little) shoulder movement. Neutral stance. Neutral ball position, ensuring that the leading edge is slight off the ground. The first time I tried this I was blown away by the spin imparted to the ball as well as the large margin of error.
I can hit chips all day on a putting green and not leave a mark!
He describes exactly everything I was doing wrong. It took some practice to get this down and then there was this nirvana moment
Thanks mate!
Colin Montgomerie Golf Academy on the short game, pitching, chipping. Straight forward shots ( eg. no bunkers to go over ) distance to flag determined by backswing. Use lower lofted clubs ( 6, 7 and eight irons ), if you go back three feet you go through three feet as an example. Weight 60 % on left foot ( for right handed ) no wrist break, hands very slightly ahead of the ball.
Practicing this method I became one of the best short game players in my club but it was practice, practice practice.
If you're in doubt about shallowing your arc consider this. A shallow angle of attack (say 3-4 degrees down) will increase your margin of error by 3-fold compared to an old-school, ball back, hands forward shot. Chipping and pitching are overwhelmingly about the quality of strike. Clean contact equals desired outcome. Go shallow. You wont regret it.
I have been working on getting connected on my swing for a couple of weeks. This is the first time I seen your videos on you tube.I am impressed with your teaching .Watching your full swing vide.I can't wait to get practicing .I got it down except starting the downswing with the hip turn .I need some work with that. Thanks for the help.
thanks! just got banned for taking big divots out of one of the greens on my local course!!!
spriggo786 Well you'd be an idiot, wouldn't you?
Its called, go to the driving range. Your not very smart.....
lol, yeah the above totally happened....
+BustYourBallsMetalXD well, you're maybe not so smart for thinking spriggo was being serious... :)
LOL
Gotta agree with you vid!!! I just started back golfing two years ago after being out of the game for 20 years. I'm 68 now. I've worked hard at my game in these last years. New clubs and ball technologies have improved a lot, of course but until about 3 months ago I hadn't noticed any significant changes in "playing techniques" until I saw a similar video to yours ( I don't remember the exact title of the video - it had something to do with "chipping with 'cheese'" and using "bounce"). Square stance, club vertical, rotate around spine, no hands, wrists or arms involved. Club simply rotates inside to square to inside.
I like to practice but I don't normally try everything I see or hear. This one sounded interesting and so much different than I used to do (and I had a really good short game). On a whim I tried it during one of my practice chipping sessions. Intended to hit only a couple of balls. But after hitting my first ball, the contact was so remarkably solid I was astounded. Thought it was an accident so of course hit several more and got the same solid feel. I must have been out there for more than an hour using that approach.
It is easily repeatable and can testify it works best on tight lies (even hard pan). Only problems I've had is when I involve hands, wrists or arms.
Thanks for the video.
Its been one year since I posted this comment and since then I've added one more "key" to this technique: I found that it helps if I grip the club more in the palms of my hands. This further restricts me from using the hands/wrists.
@@priayief how's ya chipping going now Ron?
@@tyson2259 Sheesh! I made that comment more than 5 years ago. But thanks for asking.
I'm 75 now so I no longer have the touch I used to but I still use this chipping approach. It serves me well.
Cheers.
Excellent demonstration of the pure chipping stroke .What should be added is that it takes hours of practice to achieve the mastery of this clean stroke .I chip more than 100 balls every day at home,in my basement on my "WELLING MAT" into a small net
This is a great technique. I can chip with a great confidence and distance control now. I don't have to guess how my ball is going to check and run. My ball spins so much that I can literally chip as much as I see. More importantly, I don't have to worry about chipping on a tight lie. Thanks for a great tip.
Ooooo. You may have just pointed out one of my weaknesses in my short game, that I actually think is the strongest part of my game at this point - the lag. Once I learned lag with my irons my whole game changed I’m 30 now and only started playing serious 5-6 years ago. So a couple years ago I decided to buy myself a new set of irons and make a real attempt at getting better with my iron game. I did. Once I learned the proper way to put lag on my club my game got even better. But I also applied it to my wedges... and I think this might be the problem at times. My biggest weakness rn is when I’m trying to get max distance off my wedges because I sometimes chunk the ball and take a major divot; the ball goes nowhere in those instances lol. But I think the main issue here might be that tip to take the extra lag out the club. Thank you very much. Can’t wait to try this out on the course before the season ends in a few weeks. Ahhh the joys of living in Northeastern US
exactly! love this video man, most people slap down on it and pinch it. theres always the right time for that shot but it shouldnt be the default chipping technique haha
Notice to recreational golfers and weekend hackers: Use his technique around the green, not on it for God's sake! And, please, quit spitting your sunflower shells on the greens. While we're at it, you finally hit a green in regulation from more than 100 yards out! Now repair your pitch mark, genius. Tools for this are sold at the clubhouse. Thanks!
I forgot to say I do this by pretending I'm hitting a really long putt. I'm in south florida though its tight. The issue I find using this technique is that you have to allow for more release 5-10 feet.
Accelerate through the ball, slow & smooth back quarter swing, don't break your wrist as much as the hinge & hold pretend your sweeping under the ball like your putting!
I learned this myself. Putt your Chips it works everywhere except deep lies!
I picked two out of the bunkers today & barely moved any sand : )
It works from 50 yds in!
From 50 yds use same technique just hit harder, only after you've mastered it, I hit it every yardage inside 50 unless I have to drop the ball & stick it next to a front pin location. Bouncing on the apron can be unpredictable, it could run to the back middle or stay on the apron leaving you another chip or putt!
Shaves strokes of your putting game cuz you can now One Putt most holes you miss the green!
This was the single best concept I've learned about chipping in 2 years. Perhaps I should have known before, but having this idea in my head while chipping has improved my short game.
What concept was that?
Watch the vid.
I did, several times in fact, but there were several concepts mentioned in the video. I was just curious which one of the many concepts most resonated with you?
Ahh sorry. Well, I'm not a very good golfer. Only ever shot in the 90's a couple times. When I chipped before, I think I kinda hit down on the ball to pop it up, and sometimes would get scared of hitting too hard and pull up at the last second causing silly shots. The idea of of just sliding the club across the ground through the ball has helped so much. I can't do the square stance though. I stay open.
Setting up a little open is okay as long as you're able to work the club around you on the backswing. Try folding the right elbow and bringing the upper arm back to touch the vertical seam in your shirt. Do the same with your left arm during the follow-through. The goal is to keep your hands close to your belt line throughout the motion. Good luck
Leave this site if you can't understand the point! Excellent instruction that really works.
Read Jack Nicklaus book(paperback, magazine sized, illustrated, forget the name. It's same format as his "lesson tee" book-yeah, read that to). His secret to chipping around the green is to use different clubs for different distances. The idea is to hit the ball in the air the shortest distance onto the green and let the club angle control the distance. Haven't seen the book in years nor played(arthritis) but if I remember correctly..........a wedge hit rolls as far as it flies, a 9 rolls twice the distance it flies, an 8 3 times, 7 4 times, and so on. This is of course on a flat green, however it is a good starting point for practice, and you should practice on the chipping green before your round.
Worked for me, it's most effective on long chips a yard or two off the green. The shot is set up by getting the flight distance(hit about a yard onto the green) then figuring the roll needed, then pick the club. All you need to do is hit the landing spot-a short shot, and let the roll take care of itself.
But, that's only the 1/2 of it, the easy part, the hard part of the shot is is you need to read the roll like a putt.
A bit irresponsible, but good principles. You can get the same effect by sticking some tight industrial carpet tile to a piece of 3'x3' plywood. $5-10, your game will improve and your green keeper will love you.
featurepoint I heard one professional say that the carpet from the trunk of a Camry is the closest he'd found to a putting green surface
This was a demo on how accurate you can be.
If you are a "real" golfer you would not chip off the green; most of us, don't.
He is not telling you to ! Just demonstrating the technique !
Think people need to see the difference !
Well, there are ALOT of dumb people that comment dumb shit cause they don't pay attention to wtf the guy is saying.
i have one green that i have to , have chipped off of several times. is us L shaped. i keep leaving my approach shot short and need to carry it up and back around the corner. so, green chipping is fine........when necessary. that said, as he says, if you can chip like this on a tight light, any fairway or fringe lie will be simple
I don't think that any rule of golf forbids playing a wedge from the green
I am pretty sure Phil Mickelson actually chipped one in the hole with hail on the green.
Seen Leishman do it at Augusta. No damage.
Unlike Calcavecchia’s pitch at St Andrews. Naturally a 100 yards pitch like his will result in a sizeable divot. And that’s just what happened.
The beauty of your technique is that even if you thin it a bit you will usually end up with a descent result.
Those who complain don‘t make any sense.he told you clearly it took him 20 years to learn this! Rome is not built in one day!
Very useful video for me. I've got problems with my wrist, and not hacking into the ground when chipping will help prevent the strain that I'm always trying to avoid.
Thanks!
Another good tip when chipping from the greens (it is allowed by the way!!) is to not grab the shaft too hard... grab it as if you were putting and just keep reminding yourself that the club will do the work!!
Excellent ideas. I hole lots of chips, or get them stone dead, using a flat approach, almost a putting stroke with the sand wedge, it's easy to master it. Ball on the back foot. Great for 100 ft putts too, use the sand wedge.
Great video & makes sense & nice way of using the "bounce" loft to prevent fat ones , its way too tempting to get hands forward and drive down "ball first" but I can see why that isnt a tactic for consistency especially in UK winter golf when soggy turf means the club just keeps on going down. Sure you'll get hate tweets from greenkeepers for the advice at 4m 12s , but the apron will do. No scuff chipping it is - Thanks.
I like Leadbetter’s tip to keep the wrists firm/straight. Hinge and hold is more inconsistent.
after watching this I went out today and my short game shots were so much crisper thank you dave need some new ideas from you
One of the best golfers ever played a very shallow chip in fact all his shots were shallow he very seldom took a divot & he is credited with teaching Ben Hogan at one stage he has a beautifully smooth swing his name "Count Yogi" look him up
"Sneak out onto the course to practice?"
Did this today. 40-50 ft for eagle, had to go straight up the spine of the green. A putt couldve went 5ft right or 10ft left. Took my 60 and flew it over everything to about 8 inches. Took me about 2 seconds to make the decision to hop and stop it. I honestly dont know anyone who i who reccomend it to, its an extremely precise shot with very small tolerances for error.
Keep consistant hand pressure through the swing. If you start with a 5 our of 10. Then end with a 5 out of 10. That allows your wrists to be loose the whole time, and lets the weight of the clubhead snap through on its own.
Amazing skill to have. I don't have it. It costs me 10 to 14 shot per round. I average 11 pars per round, but can't chip. I will now try to remember your tip. Perhaps I can do it.
My club practice putting green is now full of divots
lol
+Joe Mac lol
+Dreama40 lol
Hello there
Earth is flat impossible.
This makes so much sense...thanks for posting the video.
don't get your hands too far ahead of the ball. his forward press sets his hands probably 2 inches ahead
That spot behind his right foot is where he was practicing before he started the camera :)
+Clarence10169 this guy is a joke,all i heard was gums flapping..i did chuckle when he said when nobody is looking go on the green and try it out...what a fucking bellend...no hate intended but the "it took me 20+ years to learn this "BS
Its pretty much standard advice on tour now. the reason he says 20 years before he learned this technique is probably because the norm was something similar to the Peltz way of chipping, decending blow, ball a little back, which gives less margin for error. If you use the bounce correctly you can actually hit down hard on a green or fore green and it will give you a palpable bouncing feeling.
this works very well..the other day, I figured out that I could chip SO much more accurate if I swung shallow!!...
He is NOT suggesting that you chip from the green. He is making a point that if you struggle with chips caused from too step an attack angle (the so-called "chunk" shot) or the club way ahead of the ball, then a shallow angle may help. He uses the green to clearly and effectively illustrate the technique. Obviously he has mastered this one particular shot to the point where he can execute it repeatedly without damaging the green.
We have a barritz green at my club I have chipped from the bowl as it is actually the best play. Greens keeper saw me do it once and I had to have him walk over to witness I left no mark. It is a private club but I was questioned about it. I simply said if I can do it without leaving a mark then no harm no foul they agreed but I am sure the green keeper has a picture of me on his dartboard. If I had left a divot or even a mark on the green I am sure I would of had a letter and been brought in front of the membership committee. Hey Phil did it at Augusta didn't he?
Hey man, watch where I swing that thing to.
That's really impressive.
Its a personal and etiquette thing . No rule stops you from doing it. But you will have to face the consequences if you do damage the green. And even if you play it with soft hands nothing would happen to the surface. Only idiots who should not even enter the course would play a explosive damaging shot. For that reason they should be banned from the course if they do hit a divot. Also you wont do it 1 ft from the hole. Common sense people!
Excellent instruction. Good dialogue and clear visuals. Thank you for this video. I'm off to the course!
This is comedy gold, 'sneak out onto the course and play some shots from the green'
great advice for my forthcoming golf trip to Carnoustie. Hope greenkeeper doesn't mind me doing warm up shots on 18th green?
Agree. What also helps: accelerate....NOT decelerate at the ball.
Would a wedge with less bounce be ideal for this type of shot technique?? iGolftv Or perhaps a medium bounce angle like 8* would provide some versatility?
I don't believe it how this method has improved my short game and chipping...
ugh.... I don't have time to take 26 years to learn something in golf. I have to get really good in the next 2-3 years to qualify for the Korn Ferry Tour.
Lol
The more you put your weight on your left side the steeper you become with chipping. If you want to shallow the swing centralise your weight a bit more or even put it towards the back foot and this will shallow your chipping swing.... it's contrary to Almost all golf teaching however give it a try and you will be astonished with the results... 👍😉
Great tip, thank you for sharing it with us!
all of you guys need to just chill. It seems to me that most people who get on these sites are seemingly much better than the person instructing. Why then are you watching it. Look, just take it for what it is worth. Is it useful for you. If so go and try it. If not don't but don't get on here and create a conversation that is irrelevant to the instruction. Not on a green but in normal circumstances. If it doesn't work don't carry on about it.
All about being short on the back swing, keeping the triangle and pointing chest to the target in the end releasing the club head. :)
One of the best videos...thank you.
Should of done this lesson from a flat fairway bunker so no greens get ruined and it would have been better for learning the technique.
Thanks a lot, just got in a bloody fist fight with my grounds keeper trying this.
Nice tip! Worth mentioning is you got to make sure your wedge has the least bounce
I learned to this recently. My thought is to just use my shoulders as in putting, not torso, which makes the contact very consistent.
Even the big boys have trouble with tight lies. In the old days, the ball was not picked up and if your opponent blocked (stymied) your putt, the ball had to be chipped over. There is no penalty for chipping on the green if it is the only or best play, but it is not a routine thing and should some how be practiced....obviously there are not too many opportunities to do such. A mat can be used, but as we all know, the mat is more forgiving than the ground....still, it helps technique of learning how to chip or pitch from a tight lie
Also...Dave...I've really studied your clips and it just hit me that you must 6'8". In order for me to setup as you are (and you just look great over the ball), I must choke up on my club down to the medal. That's just s I can have my hands just above my knees as you have in your set up here. In attempting to emulate your set up though I must confess that I am able to strike the ball cleaner when I am trying to hit these little chips.
Just resist turning your right shoulder to find this movement. Fat hit are almost always due to dropping the right shoulder trying to get lift
I never hit the ground on practice swing but real swing i always dig
nice n simple the way i do it too seems to work very well
the best way of coming in shallow is to putt it
DASH1ful hes not telling you should actual chip from the green in actual tournament, but to practice you chips, so when you chip from anywhere else theyll be even easier.
so is the word yips an abbreviation for "you chips"
DASH1ful You are hard a learner. Next lesson up 10 o' clock.
how much do you charge?
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Great video. I have the bad habit of delofting my wedges and not using the bounce enough.
Now if I can just find a course that will let me practice my chipping on their greens!
Thanks! Ambassador throw my golf bag to the cart path but I was able to finish 18 holes.
I always dig deep on short pitches, get lazy and chunk it.
Amazing it is. Everyone will be sculling them straight through the green. Close but no cigar.
Now I don't feel so bad taking years to build Moe Normans golf swing! I never take a divot with any shot! Greens keepers love me! Hit a hundred balls at the range and hardly know I was there
Dave, he's not disrespecting etiquette, there is NOWHERE in the USGA RULES that say's you CANNOT Chip on the green. You can use ANY club, ANYWHERE on the course. If you want to use your putter on the TEE, you can, BUT .... I'm sure he has a lot of greens keepers around the world a little upset with him for this video ... lol.
Excellent advice for chipping!
Really enjoy your teaching style. Thank You
I have discovered the same thing about my chipping lately. I hit them fat or thin, it's scary for me to chip. But if I can shallow out my attack by not using my hands I can hit great chips. It's just hard to do consistantly.
I like the camera angle at the end ....good vid mate
His point is to not take divots with the short game. Many pros do this on tour. I have also found this to make my short game more accurate.
I just finished watching this video and 1 other prior to this. You are brilliant my friend! One of the things I tremble over is chipping the ball. Now I can't wait to get to the course this afternoon to practice some of your techniques. You've gotten yourself another subscriber and another up-vote.
edit: What club are you using in this video? And what is the bounce # on it?
Great video! What club are you using? Does the level of bounce matter (8, 10, 14, 14). I thought that 12-14*of bounce does not work well off tight lies. Is that true? Thanks.
seems the key to success with this technique is knowing where your swing bottoms out. without that knowledge you are destined to hit fat/skilled chips all day.
26 years of leaving divots on greens I am now a master at this
Lmao
chip off of concrete without scratching your mates wedge. that way the greens survive. I don't recommend using your own club until you get really good.
Thanks.... good demo for my friends...
If you followed his advice,you will pick-up the ball with no divot & could cexecute it from the green with no divot/damage 2 the turf whatsoever!
Great finnese. But didn't state what degree of loft? Bounce. Grip pressure? Assume its normal hold pressure to let the weight of club to do the work. The secret lies in the thorax turning away and turning back with the upper arms slightly attached to the upper body. Both works like a four wheel drive through for a skipping action. If the left arm leads, the club face will skid or top, and if the right arm power through and takeover, then the club face might give the yips like chopping down or bouncing too much to pop the ball trajectory higher. Great 👍 tip overall
How much bounce are you using on your wedge? Seems might be better to use a little less bounce.
Great video so for the drill are you releasing to create the shallow attack I'm not sure what the drill to get that shot you hit so wel
i bet the 203 that didn't like this are grounds keepers !! i love to practice this .. and if you do make a divot fix it ! let the club do the work no pulling down with the hands !!! rotate and rotate smooth ... like a putt dammit .. lol i have issues on the course at times and like a putt dammit seems 2 help .
this shot can also be done off of concrete!! No one believes this can be repeated but you can get close every time. I learned the shot 30 years ago. its a no no for anyone that has a head that moves. the head must be STILL to play this one.
You there ! I'm the Secretary of the Club and you should bloody well know that chipping on the greens isn't allowed ! Expect a letter from the Committee within the week ! You're looking at a three month suspension, my boy !
Start by using your left only. If you are too deep the club will stop. Keep elbows close.
Thanks for the tip...it works for me!
I tried your suggestion and topped a ball into the bar and knocked out the waitress and theres a divot on the practice green.
Corey B you’ve got to practice the technique for 26 years before you try it in the vicinity of any waitresses
I enjoyed the content. Was weirded out I couldn’t see the mans head who was teaching me
Chip looks easy but most times shank or hit just the ball not under tge ball. It needs a nice touch feel