I'm here from Howie Mandel's appearance on Hangin' with Doctor Z and he mentions this, although differently. I didn't think it was bad. And his bit with the animal reminds me of Will Ferrell's appearance on Conan with the bird.
Can't tell if Howie's appearance on Hangin' with Doctor Z was supposed to be purposely flat, awkward, and all around bad or if Howie is just that unfunny.
@@grendlsma Yeah, I know what you mean. Still, I've been watching Dr. Z since season 1 and I don't ever recall any other guest being so unamused 🤷🏻. Hope it was planned for Howie's sake.
Howie told this story on a podcast and it was nothing like what really happened. He must not have remembered very well. He better go back and watch this video.
Yeah, I searched this after the podcast and thought the same thing. Looked to me that the audience and Johnny had a good time. Must be an inside Hollywood thing.
@@Mr1930s It's interesting to hear the circumstances behind it. He was called in at the last minute to replace Sammy Davis Jr. who had just been diagnosed with cancer that day. Poor Howie had to wing it :(
@@dhpbear2 I think Howie Mandel remembered his time incorrectly, even if it was so disastrous as it would be worth forgetting. Carson didn't seem that brutal as he was trying to understand him. Hear me out on this but I'm not someone who watches Howie Mandel, but from what I judge, and I'm not knocking his talent, his kind of comedy is very dangerous, in terms of the ppl being able to get the jokes or not, because you really needed to think outside of the box. It sounded like Carson had an off night, but unfortunately, it looked like Carson was sort of anxious as well (8:43). He always liked the control he brought on the audience, and this is him out of it, and the whole last minute thing is bombing. Could be little frustration there even if its in relation to the joke, "If you folks had spent 12.50, you'd have a right to boo," then you hear the band go off, then Carson looks frustrated, "Another one!" Wonder if its outta context though.
Okay, I just figured out why Howie lied about this show bombing and getting banned from Carsen for it. Another one of his practical jokes. Good one Howie!😂
Johnny just didn't understand the joke. I doubt he really cared one way or the other, but Fred DeCordova likely was the one who decided to only have Howie on with guest hosts. The nipple thing didn't help either.
He explained this on a podcast, they called him last minute to come in, he told them I have zero material, I can't come in, they begged him, this is what he came up with in 30 minutes, Johnny is not loyal, and wouldn't let this slide, my guess is they didnt tell Johnny after the show, and just left Howie out to dry, many people didn't like johnny, who admitted it many years later when the fear passed, ask RIP Joan Rivers
I heard the Mandel interview. They said they had nobody else but him. Okay. What about Super Dave or Jonathan Winters? I heard these were guys that were on stand by. But ig they were not available. I'm just a 27 yr old but I would have loved to have seen two guys just talk about the old days of NBC in New York and tales about Groucho or George Jessel; however one thing I have noticed as the 80s came in, the excitement was perhaps more valued. Notice how that was becoming true as time progressed into the 90s and 2000s. Carson was certainly a competitive person and would have wanted to keep up with everything.
Also because he was a last minute guest I really don’t think Johnny Carson would hold this routine against him Howie either got banned for something else or never was banned.
@@anguslean4058 Remember he banned Lola Falana too. Its not really known why, as well as Rich Little's ban. The Tonight Show banned Grodin for teasing Carson about not being invited to a card game. Little petty things made him angry.
Carson is really irritated in this clip. Normally, he would bail out a guest with a joke or a laugh (whether real or otherwise) if things weren't going well, but he spends most of the time meeting Howie's jokes with a blank face or almost no comment at all. He gave him nothing because he was clearly furious, and the audience followed Johnny's lead with occasional boos.
Howie was hung out to dry by the Tonight Show production here - he was a last minute replacement for a guest and had nothing prepared. The team should have told Johnny what had happened and Johnny would have been more sympathetic to Howie. The production team told Johnny nothing, so Johnny got irritated at what he thought was a lazy appearance by Howie.
He was a last minute fill in for Sammy Davis Jr. Sammy was diagnosed with cancer so they called Howie and begged him to come on. He said he was not prepared but went anyway and the prick Johnny made it as bad as he could
This bit is legend. They asked him last minute to replace another guest. Howie said he didn't have any material, but they kept begging. This is what he came up with in 30 minutes. Fucking legendary.
I'm here from Howie Mandel's appearance on Hangin' with Doctor Z and he mentions this, although differently. I didn't think it was bad. And his bit with the animal reminds me of Will Ferrell's appearance on Conan with the bird.
I am also here from Hang with Dr. Z...because I had to see if this was a real thing
Can't tell if Howie's appearance on Hangin' with Doctor Z was supposed to be purposely flat, awkward, and all around bad or if Howie is just that unfunny.
He got banned for this....?
It was a funny bit.
Carson does look pissed......
@@atariblue It's kinda Doctor Z's thing though. Pretty sure the whole thing was planned, because if it wasn't it was a pretty cruel ambush.
@@grendlsma Yeah, I know what you mean. Still, I've been watching Dr. Z since season 1 and I don't ever recall any other guest being so unamused 🤷🏻. Hope it was planned for Howie's sake.
Howie told this story on a podcast and it was nothing like what really happened. He must not have remembered very well. He better go back and watch this video.
this is because this is not the show he was talking abut
It’s exactly the episode he talked about. Didn’t remember it well.
Yeah, I searched this after the podcast and thought the same thing. Looked to me that the audience and Johnny had a good time. Must be an inside Hollywood thing.
Which podcast?
@@iAMitUnot ua-cam.com/video/QaLKRrr8QTE/v-deo.html
This is one of the most legendary bits to ever happen on the Tonight Show.
Wheeling out the GIANT prop and not talking about it is brilliant ❤️❤️
I kept waiting for the explanation! That's freaking hilarious.
Johnny doesn't look to be too impressed
How can you tell from a video with 24 by 18 pixels resolution?
But he doesn't look pissed. It must have been the nipple bit.
Howie says he got banned for this show.
@@grendlsma Johnny Carson was an Asswipe.
He wasn't at all. I think Howie later said that Johnny was so pissed that he never invited him back to the show after that lol
This was the bit that Howie said that got him banned in the Tonight Show.
What specifically got him banned?
@@dhpbear2 Johnny didn't like the bit. Howie tells it here: ua-cam.com/video/n-Vsy9P9CaU/v-deo.html
@@Mr1930s It's interesting to hear the circumstances behind it. He was called in at the last minute to replace Sammy Davis Jr. who had just been diagnosed with cancer that day. Poor Howie had to wing it :(
@@dhpbear2 I think Howie Mandel remembered his time incorrectly, even if it was so disastrous as it would be worth forgetting. Carson didn't seem that brutal as he was trying to understand him. Hear me out on this but I'm not someone who watches Howie Mandel, but from what I judge, and I'm not knocking his talent, his kind of comedy is very dangerous, in terms of the ppl being able to get the jokes or not, because you really needed to think outside of the box. It sounded like Carson had an off night, but unfortunately, it looked like Carson was sort of anxious as well (8:43). He always liked the control he brought on the audience, and this is him out of it, and the whole last minute thing is bombing. Could be little frustration there even if its in relation to the joke, "If you folks had spent 12.50, you'd have a right to boo," then you hear the band go off, then Carson looks frustrated, "Another one!" Wonder if its outta context though.
I think Howie was playing a practical joke on us during that podcast so everyone would check this out
Okay, I just figured out why Howie lied about this show bombing and getting banned from Carsen for it. Another one of his practical jokes. Good one Howie!😂
Why would Johnny ban Howie for this it was classic Howie??
This is good
He doesn't want to talk about the elephant in the room.
Johnny just didn't understand the joke. I doubt he really cared one way or the other, but Fred DeCordova likely was the one who decided to only have Howie on with guest hosts. The nipple thing didn't help either.
He explained this on a podcast, they called him last minute to come in, he told them I have zero material, I can't come in, they begged him, this is what he came up with in 30 minutes, Johnny is not loyal, and wouldn't let this slide, my guess is they didnt tell Johnny after the show, and just left Howie out to dry, many people didn't like johnny, who admitted it many years later when the fear passed, ask RIP Joan Rivers
Ask Joan River's 😆
I heard the Mandel interview. They said they had nobody else but him. Okay. What about Super Dave or Jonathan Winters? I heard these were guys that were on stand by. But ig they were not available. I'm just a 27 yr old but I would have loved to have seen two guys just talk about the old days of NBC in New York and tales about Groucho or George Jessel; however one thing I have noticed as the 80s came in, the excitement was perhaps more valued. Notice how that was becoming true as time progressed into the 90s and 2000s. Carson was certainly a competitive person and would have wanted to keep up with everything.
Also because he was a last minute guest I really don’t think Johnny Carson would hold this routine against him
Howie either got banned for something else or never was banned.
@@anguslean4058 Remember he banned Lola Falana too. Its not really known why, as well as Rich Little's ban. The Tonight Show banned Grodin for teasing Carson about not being invited to a card game. Little petty things made him angry.
Wow he was good with hair
People forget how much Howie took from Bobcat .
Just imagine. This guy judges other comedisns
Howie this is the kind of thing that will get you banned.
I heard that this was supposed to be a massive flop but it seemed fined
And this how we discover that UA-cam commenters suffer from autism
I think Johnny didn’t like being blocked by the think.
and Johnny said- "that Howie will never be on my show again". And that's the rest of the story.
or did Howie make up the part about being banned ?
Carson is really irritated in this clip. Normally, he would bail out a guest with a joke or a laugh (whether real or otherwise) if things weren't going well, but he spends most of the time meeting Howie's jokes with a blank face or almost no comment at all. He gave him nothing because he was clearly furious, and the audience followed Johnny's lead with occasional boos.
Howie was hung out to dry by the Tonight Show production here - he was a last minute replacement for a guest and had nothing prepared. The team should have told Johnny what had happened and Johnny would have been more sympathetic to Howie. The production team told Johnny nothing, so Johnny got irritated at what he thought was a lazy appearance by Howie.
Funnily enough, did you know that if you switch the letters around in the phrase "total comedic desperation," it spells "Howie Mandel"?
He was a last minute fill in for Sammy Davis Jr. Sammy was diagnosed with cancer so they called Howie and begged him to come on. He said he was not prepared but went anyway and the prick Johnny made it as bad as he could
And this guy judges talent now…well if you can’t do or teach I guess
This bit is legend.
They asked him last minute to replace another guest.
Howie said he didn't have any material, but they kept begging.
This is what he came up with in 30 minutes.
Fucking legendary.
I remember seeing this live. He used to be funny.
I don't know what the issue is, Mandel is just cringe not funny. He's awful.
yawn... max cringe