Is Monster Hunter Rise Better Than Monster Hunter World??!
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On the curios crafting point, the weapon system was really good.
It's the RNG on armor pieces that sucked hard. If they applied the same system to armor pieces, it would have been the best mh endgame imo.
As someone that started in World, Rise felt like a true sequel. So many QoL improvements (mining speed up, training room etc) , better systems (mentioned in the video). Better movement options, attack variety, faster gameplay. Wirebug > slinger, clutchclaw.
Only thing lacking was the amazing immersive, detailed and gorgeous environment World created.
But with the mining speed up, you kinda lose the enthusiastic way your hunter gather some materials with bones and mines. There are even a few different animations depend on how rare the material you're getting. You don't even get shiny animation whenever your hunter carve some gems/mantles from monster.
one big thing Rise Sunbreak has over World Iceborne for me is the Monster roster there's so many great new additions and old throwbacks and thanks to the endgame system you can fight most monster's with more challenge and attack changes
Hey, took the words right out of my mouth! This matches my sentiment exactly. I'd like to add that Rise has a bigger variety of monster skeletons too, like fanged beasts, leviathans and carapaceons. I really hope that those monster types return in Wilds as the switch skills. Just.... I hope the Hunting Horn changes stay in Rise, personally. It felt too simplified to me.
I just bought MHR 2 days ago
it's a great game, definitely one of my favs! hope you enjoy :D
Good luck. I am at 400 hours and the end game grind has sort of crushed my will. I will say this : MH:W is like a tutorial compared to MH:R. Did you get Sunbreak or just base game?
Base is o.k. Sunbreak has my favorite story mission of all time in the series and also has my favorite fight in the entire series.
What is ur main?
What if charms/talismans were still craftable, but they have branching upgrades that either allow a stronger form of the same charm, or decoration slots. Decos should be craftable, but I think having them as a bonus quest reward would be cool too. It would allow for more leniency
this takes me back to Safi loading.... skip.... skip.... fUcKiNg HiT tHe BuTtOn!?!?
seriously xD this was my fav thing about switching to PC, i could type in the chat "SKIP IT" xD
I hope the endemic life that replaces things life the health booster and clutch claw bunk come bank they were nice additions
If they bring back guiding lands and sieges in some form and they take notes from rises combat while having environments like world ill be very happy. Tbh tho if they make gunlance with blast dash reverse blast dash and hail cutter ill play the hell out of it no matter what. Rise ruined my love for some weapons in previous games trying to play gunlance and greatsword in previous games just feel awful to me now.
one thing that makes rise way better than world IMO is that in world the game makes everything in its power to not let you play the game, the amount of monsters with enviromental damage is insane (teostra, lunastra, uragaan, both brachydios, glavenus etc) so you cant even position yourself freely, mosnter IA is just stupid, when you are in an area and another monster comes they either turf war or team up against you, but not before making you flinch with an endless exchange of roars, wind pressure and tremmors, and when you finally can move your character and dung pod the invading monster, the monster you are fighting decides he no longer wants to fight right there so he goes right to where the other monster went... just ridiculous, the amount of time you spend staggered or stunned in a fight compared to rise is absurd (also palamutes are a huge QOL improvement)
@@PabloAstudillo there is also the fact that palicos just let you staying there stunned/sleepy like what am i paying you for cat HELP!
A bitt of a wierd one but i liked that you had to fight the master rank versions of monsters to se theire armor, it felt unrewarding to just see them in iceborn without unloking them, and i personaly don't like the quests that only are availeble sometimes, i want to play when i whant and find this event pursiut realy jawring, also the pause button
I mean that's why they're called "EVENT" quests in the first place.
@@herusetiawan5399 and i am personaly not a Fan of Events,i like to play a game at my own pace and time so its just not my thing (most of the event Quests were Download permanent anyway)
Switch skills are good but it could be irrelevant when one option outshines others. Like for your example with Greatsword, everybody will just run Strongarm Stance counter since it gives the highest damage possible, and since Rage Slash and Surge Slash combo doesn't do really well with Strongarm Stance, they're barely used in Sunbreak.
@@herusetiawan5399 thats more of a balancing issue than an Argument against the System itselv , also i think that strongarm and rageslash are just to simular in there role for the great sword and so they out class each other easaly
@@Irelevant472 How many times you see Greatsword users in Sunbreak that don't use strongarm stance? Switch skills and balancing are related closely to each other. You can't talk about how switch skills are giving players a lot of flexibility while in factual 95% players use that same skill. Imagine playing Monster Hunter game but all you see is people playing just 1 type of weapon and very rarely you see them playing 1 of the other 13 weapons.
@@herusetiawan5399 okay let me put it that way if the switch skills alow for a different play style, ore build the could be fantastic (think eldenrings ashes of war) or somewaht like gu were im love valor blades cause it is more fun then the normal Version, that it is mostly not that way is a execuitional flaw not with the core concept
If I had to say Rise was better at anything it’s this: adding variation to combat via the silkbind attacks like GU’s Hunter arts, eventually allowing you to take NPCs with you as an option, and finally actually doing giant monster battles the right way (World got lazier and lazier with artificial “you die anyway” difficulty ala Alatreon and Behemoth). World however did everything else right from the natural disasters, to armor variety, turf wars, decorating your quarters and having your character appear in most cutscenes and so doing giving you extra reason to try out sets and play around with the gallery. The glowing birds made eating redundant and hunting tedious in Rise.
I Hope they dont bring the levels of the guiding land for single player Is a Nightmare. The guiding land cool the levels of them A Nightmare
Defck u taking abt?
@@rudycontarini2292 true who thought it was a good idear that the Levels could go down?
The new player experience of Rise is much better than World.
For new comer to the series, there are village quest, which teaches you most of the core mechanic of MH, and slowly ramp up in difficulty. Veteran hunters can dive right in with hub quests, which gets you to the endgame much faster.
Meanwhile in World, you are stuck doing a movement tutorial for 30mins, then when you finally got your weapon, the only "tutorial" you get is a short video explaining the weapon concept and what the NPCs yell at you in the corner of your screen while you are being overwhelm by everything being thrown at you at once. It doesn't help that the first map is also the most complex one by far, with multiple layers, all the different twisted routes, all kinds of props and wild life.
I DID DAY OF RUIN 390 TIMES TO GET MY FIRST ATTACK 4 JEWEL 😭😭😭😭😭
The correct answer to any Rise vs. World debate: Both are great games that do a lot of things right and plenty of things wrong. The future of MH is bright if campcom learns from its successes and shortcomings
5th had a lot of rampant cheating from what I've seen firsthand
charms and decorations were those, but then there's been people going "well i killed safi jiva once I deserve 999 zionium crystals"
negatives of iceborne, someone went a little to bonkers with masters touch, then they nerfed the players in iceborne with the wex nerf (because of masters touch).
the claw, if i ever feel like i should get off a weapon because it's claw was garbo (pre fatalis patch*) that's not okay.
cons of world, coral highlands, very limited spin move area with hammer.
pros of iceborne, despite the fight being at mr24 (tbh they deserve the review bomb just for that, should've been mr100) Alatreon *fire* is the tightest mainline team fight in the series.
additional pros, i got to spin move with my hammer
i got to laugh my ass off at someone getting diffed by Barioth and when i fought a real old world barioth went "these two really aren't the same".
i forgot the rest it's 1 am 👍
I prefer deco grind, just because world has multi skill in a jewel 4 deco.
For me Akuma layered armor make it better he had special animations and moveset
Basically we need combat styles but not wire bugs. We deserve health agmentation to fight end game fairly like arch tempered elder dragons. We need a much better rate of getting what we need regarding jewelry and no guiding lands messy one zone up and all other zones down it's pathetic and too much of a grind. And finally we need better weapon customisation because in mhw the weapons are all bone look like ugly.
Return to Rise! I wish ....I have no time
No wonder I have 1100 hrs in Sunbreak v. 650 in Iceborne. I am getting close to MR999, which would never happen in Iceborne. Granted, Iceborne was my first MH game and I made a ton of mistakes in that game. It's awesome no matter what, but Sunbreak and my beloved SnS is superb. Just superb. SnS alone is amazing, I went back to Iceborne for SnS, and sorry to say, I don't like it as much. Sunbreak SnS is the best it has ever been. I hope it continues in Wilds. Bows are also better in Sunbreak due to breakdown of varieties, pierce, etc...
Sns just did have everything in sunrise movement, counter, cuting, knock out's, and metsu is just a fantastic super move compared to that backstep feeld just akward
I remember being happy with SNS being able to do a jump attack right after climbing a ledge in 4U. Oh, how far we've come.
guard 5 with embolden allows you to counter > perfect rush pretty much everything in the game and I'm here for all of it. It was sad how it was so hard to utilize it but after grabbing those embolden skill points hooo boy I can't think of going back without it. You can ACTUALLY spam perfect rush in this game it's insane
Just bought Rise few days ago and I absolutely love it more than World but that is just because it's way more "Monster Hunter", the menu is perfect old style, the hunt is simplistic of travelling map and hunt down a monster which Rise improved the old problem of long time traveling and sick parkour movement with wire bug, and the Hundred Monster attack is also such a great improvement to the old seiges, it is in my opinion the pinical of mainline monster hunter, World is really it's own thing and should be judged isolated from the monster hunter series
it exactly the other way around buddy. i think you just really dislike world and probably prefer fast adhd combat games. and i did play rise and i completed the whole game just by throwing the 5 dps daggers only just for a laugh cause the game is that easy.
@@bagofsand1121if you disagree with somebody then you should try not to be a dick next time. Real jackass comment
@@bagofsand1121 base rise may be easy but so is world IMO both games don't get hard until the expansions
@@pandre5458 i know dude, i agree with you. this guy goes to every mh vid and shits on mhw for some reason and it annoyed me.
hahaha mhw it sucks
1.I think what they should have done with worlds decorations is still have all jewels at the elder melder and have you still farm so there's still some rng but if you don't get what you want you can trade in ur accumulated useless jewels for your level 4 .27% chance jewels.2.Also the thing about augments is that I feel that most players don't strive for them till after or right at fatalis and from personal experience those augments arent that easy to get so I feel that it doesn't put to much of a crux on the gameplay b/c ur supposed to become powerful in end game b/c u still will die in one hit from fatalis usually.3. lastly I hope they don't bring back wirebugs but the ability to switch how ur weapon works would immensely fun in later games
No game is better. Every monster hunter game is awesome
It is a bit funny that almost evry flaw of world is coverd by rise and vise versa
I’m agree on the weapon moveset variety and love to see it back in MH wild. But I don’t like the generosity amount of counter moveset.
agreed 100%, the infinite counter spam playstyle of every weapon was a bit boring at times
As one who uses GL, I wish they bring back blast dash in wilds.
Somewhat agree with this but also feel the counters were very much needed in Sunbreak since so many more monsters were hyper aggressive and left little room for counter attacks if played without. Idk maybe a skill issue on my end but I’m not fighting risen Shaggy without CPP or Swax’s new counter
Yes, it is.
Personally, I enjoy Rise far more than I do World or any other game in the franchise for that matter. They are all great in their own right, and I still play them all on occasion.
I enjoy the fast paced combat and gameplay in Rise. I play Monster Hunter to HUNT MONSTERS. The combat is the most engaging aspect of the game for me, and I don't think it's a bad thing that they chose to focus so much on it in this game. I think it's fantastic, especially taking into account that Rise was conceptualized and intended as a Switch game. I enjoy the mobility of the Wirebugs and utility of Silkbind Attacks. The Switch Skill system added a lot of variety to the game, and each weapon has at least two unique ways to play it.
They added a lot of new Armor Skills with unique and interesting mechanics, and they are all viable. There is a lot of build variety and diversity in this game, that you will not see in any other entry. I can't even tell you how much time I've put into researching skill values and mechanics, theorycrafting and putting builds together just sitting in the Equipment Box menus. They might not all be "meta", but they are FUN and I don't have to make large sacrifices or compromises to use them. It's not just all Fatalis for every weapon and armor.
I like the graphics in Rise and the art style they went for, and for a Switch game I would even say it is a technological MARVEL what they managed to do with RE Engine. Obviously World has higher graphical fidelity, I'm not disputing that. But World was released on PS4 and Xbox One. I play Rise and World on PS4, and let me tell you... Rise plays smoothly and everything looks great in motion. It does not maintain 60fps at all times, but it very rarely dips below 30. Even on Switch it maintains a very stable 30fps and plays smoother than most games at that framerate. World on the other hand? On my PS4, it runs like absolute DOG SHIT, and can barely maintain 30fps. I don't care how good a game's graphics are, the way World runs on my PS4, I would call it nearly unplayable and definitely unacceptable for the target hardware.
However, as much as I love Rise, there are things I would not like to see in future titles. I don't want Wirebugs to return, at least not for a while. And if they do, it should be in a Rise sequel perhaps revisiting Kamura or a nearby/allied village. I do not want to see as many counter based abilities in the next entry, or at least not any new or additional ones. I don't want to see Wyvern Riding return, not in the way it is currently implemented in Rise. It needs to be rebalanced and toned down a bit at the very least. I wouldn't mind if combat and hunting in general slows down slightly in the next game. I liked the tracking system in World and would like to see something similar. I think seeing monster locations on the map immediately is too "gamey" and definitely contradicts the essence of the Monster Hunter series.
They are both great games and any "true" Monster Hunter fan will enjoy them both. It's okay to have preferences, to like or dislike certain things, or to criticize. But I don't believe anyone who is legitimately shitting on Rise is doing so in good faith. It IS mostly if not strictly Rise that people shit on, and it's mostly coming from diehard World fans, whose first entry into the series was World and who probably haven't even played any of the other games. Don't get it twisted, you're not going to come in here and start telling a 20 year old fandom what their game is or isn't or should and shouldn't be, you're not even part of the conversation and you can fuck right off with that in my opinion.
Combatwise Yeah
World and environment No
World is a better game for a wider audience. Rise is a far better Monster Hunter game, though.
"Look at this beautiful Zinogre GS!"
*shows perfectly high res photo of the weapon*
"Now look at this other Zinogre weapon, doesn't it look awful!"
*a picture with a total of 6 pixels on it*
wat
couldn't find a good pic of it that would download right... blame the wiki's for having shit quality (and also me for not having photoshop to remove backgrounds otherwise I could take my own screenshots) xD to be fair though it's about the design, which I think still comes through, even in the low res pictures
Both rng should never comeback, i rather have gears with durability and make me farm forever than having to grind for possibility nothing 😂
when world was considered a beautiful game, I loved it
now? it looks worse than every ps5 games I have
rise's combat and movement are significantly better than world's and rise has qol improvements
World/Iceborne better story and environment. Sunbreak better combat and weapons in every way. The grind for some things in both got relentless and boring. Saying that these are my favorite games and can't wait for Wilds.
110% agree!
I personally love rise but i started with it and played it a lot more than world. Not to say i dont like world, i just fuck with rise. It has its drawbacks though ofc just not as many as world IMO
It’s so dumb comparing these two games, they’re completely different on what they are trying to accomplish. Btw rise was being developed before world was a thought, so no they didn’t “abandon world”. Rise has one thing over world it did better imo, and that’s the combat. Customizable moveset is something that if world had it would’ve been a perfect game.
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Well it appears world and iceborne is doing better and selling more, not to mention it is Capcom's best selling games so
correct, i just needed a clickbait title. I just wanted to talk about certain features that I feel Rise did right
that does not mean anything, if you check steam achievements only 26% of the player base have defeated the final story boss of iceborne (shara ishvalda) and also 26% have reached guiding lands while in sunbreak 32% defeated the story boss (gaismagorm) this only means a lot of people bouhgt the game for the hype and the recomendations, got really surprised with the "living breathing world" and then when they had to actually hunt monsters they stopped playing cuz iceborne is not very good, is prolly the best fantasy nature simmulator, but a as a monster hunter, as in hunting monsters, rise is way better
Rise is perfect for handheld system
I agree with almost all of your points however:
•Combat is a matter of preference as i actually love both of them. But i prefer rise more
•Weapon designs: well rise has TONS of great weapon design unlike world's typical "slap on" weapons. But world has some cool weapons too, like safi weapons for example.
•Mantles? I agree
•decos as well i agree.
• World is so immersive and i absolutely adore what they did there. It has the "monster hunter" feel to it. It makes me feel that it makes me "hunt" the monster unlike rise.
•And last but not the least, ONE thing that Rise has and the world doesnt is..... WAIFU. You cannot possibly be serious if you say world's handler is better than the twins and sunbreak's blacksmith.
I prefer the more realistic feel and graphics of World to the more arcade feel of Rise. Rise is still a fun game, but I hate bunny dango and collecting spiribirds. Monster hunter wilds better bring back the meat platters!
hunters need PROTEIN!
tldr: No
Rise is boring af imo
I like both, I can handle complex mechanics 😂
I really hope wirebugs will disappear, it took out all the fun in the game. weapons in Rise is boring, all weapons can do everything, where is weapon identity? best example is why using hammer when HH became like same with buff on top of it?
most of ur points are right, especially weapons design. but gameplay weapon is very bad
Nuh uh
I agree about hammer and hunting horn but otherwise I don't really get what you're talking about. I've played at least a little bit of every weapon, and they all still feel pretty distinct to me. If it's mobility, Rise is just focused more on mobility in general, and you need it to keep up with the more aggressive monsters. If it's more weapons with blunt attacks, they usually have tradeoffs like the s&s giving up some of its multi-hit attacks.
Wirebugs are also just a clever way to add a tactical resource to the game, and it's just super fun to zip across the map with them. I will say it's annoying to have to pick them up sometimes.
@@spuriousgeorge7233 wirebug mentality comes in contradiction with the source of MH, placement. this only point just make me unable to appreciate Rise. I did all the game + sunbreak to be sure and yeah it's just not fun to be able to erase any mistake by 2x wire jump to full heal or get punished and wirejump while u clearly disrespected monster attack. a simple hour of playing like idk mh4u and before and u will get what I'm saying. world was a good tradeoff between old mh and opening to more people. but rise, nah, it's over the top and I'm not the public. however I hope it won't impact Wilds as I hope to play a more MHW like than MHR like game
@@gwynbleidd8723 You've been playing long enough so you should already be familiar with the main team and portable team's approach in their games. That's like complaining why all weapons in GU can do high risk plays because of Adept and Valor styles, but you can't do the same in 4U.
@@icecreamcake5381 yeah I know there are 2 teams thx, however I still can say what I think of the game. I bought and played it, I'm in my right