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Which Monster Hunter Should You Play *BEFORE* Monster Hunter Wilds?? [MHW vs MHR]
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Hope you guys found this beneficial! I tried to keep it as simple as possible, without going *too* deep into all the nuances between the games. It felt like there was a million things I could've talked about for hours, but I hope these 8 points help you to make a more informed decision!
If you have any other questions, definitely leave a comment :D I'll respond as fast as I can!
what mods do you use cause i know the long sword is mortal blade from sekiro but thats all i recognize
@@kaydenthomas1124 www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/5454 this is the LS mod, that's the only thing I have visually, outside of the better dropped items EFX, which you can find here: www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/2325
Thank you
short answer: Rise is arcade version of MH, World is immersive MH
Exactly rise is the old formula world is the new formula
@@michaeldeleon8970 funny enough I think world keep more of old MH formula than Rise. Heavy movement, impactful attacks, impressive monsters
@@gwynbleidd8723 They both keep different aspects of the old games, but at the same time, both feel very new to me.
I just can't agree. Rise is just as imersive to me.
World is more grounded, but there is the clutch claw which makes it unlike the actually grounded older games.
But, i just don't subscribe to slower=more imersive.
@@NemXX2 I don't feel like playing MH when so much of my weapons have at the same time counter, dashes etc. Rise do not punish enough placement errors while World is the good balance between important placement and fluid moves rewarding weapon mastering. At least Rise has old MH online system which is a good thing but it's probably due to switch technical limitation in the first place than immersion purpose. Finally the graphical and environment step down due to Switch doesnt help after World level of detail new standards
Now see GOOD Monster Hunter playing friends hook their newbie buddies up with 4 Ultimate upscaled on emulator.
real, 4U for the win!
Totally agree with your assessment. I still play Sunbreak over Iceborne and prefer the gameplay and endgame. But, I would also recommend MH World for those wanting to get into the series. But I would also recommend getting Rise and Sunbreak at some point as it's been my personal favorite in the series. Keep up the great work Lord V.
such good games, I have so much more time with these 2 games than any other game across my life xD appreciate the kind words frag!
The weapons on sunbreak is good... like hammer is so much better compared to world.
True but the hunting horn is an abomination. has nothing to do with what the weapon once was
MHW imo, considering wilds is going to be a mainline entry, it's going to be a slog for someone who starts at Rise which is more arcade-y
I highly agree with you and to add on they would get used to the slinger mechanic at the same time.
This! I bought both for £8 each. Bailed on Rise after 4 hours and been on World since.
@@79bull wow 8 euros 💶 each wow 🤩 good sale
I sincerely doubt that Wilds will be as clunky and outmoded as Worlds though. MHW is like something from the late 90s design-wise, despite being released in 2018. Animation lock is literally an intended feature, like they completely missed the memo saying that 99% of gamers hate it.
I just came off a 500+ hour MHW stint and as much as I like certain aspects of it, there's way too much obnoxious junk weighing it down. I'm really hoping Wilds is more up to date in terms of its combat.
Real gigachads know the real answer to this question is Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate. It is pretty obvious that Wilds is bringing back the 4U main characters. Story wise MH4U will introduce you to the characters that will likely be appearing in wilds, giving you more of a connection to them.
Gameplay wise I would say MHWorld is the best choice. As it will likely be more similar to Wilds. Rise is a fantastic game. But it's combat is much different. And is more over the top, not being a main game. Also Monster Hunter World has one of the greatest bosses in video game history. The true final boss of Iceborne is seriously incredible. Yes it is VERY hard, but the fight is so well designed and epic. It's the kind of boss that legitimately gets your blood pumping. At this point I've killed him over 40 times and it never gets old. Masterpiece.
Get world because that’s what wild is gonna be based off. Btw you get used to the slinger at the same time
Opposite take, there are two teams that do MH. Because the same team made world and wilds, new players should play rise so they can experience both style rather than only experiencing one
Teams style.
@@projectdaaltaran rise style is the arena format if you pay close attention rise and sunbreak is easier than iceborne lol. Ima a vet of the series and sunbreak was a piece of cake especially because certain weapon counters were too OP. You struggle more in iceborne that’s where the challenge is at. Fatalis is harden than any monster in sunbreak.
@michaeldeleon8970 sounds like you were a duoche of the series. True vets appreciate both, and while the og crowd is fairly divided as to which is their favorite, they recognize the merits of both. Some would also argue that the actual end game fights of rise are actually more difficult than iceborne's on average. But your argument about arena or difficulty doesn't really apply to new players. My point was jumping from rise to wilds is an effective way to experience both. And if they go from an easier time to a harder time that's not really a problem when they are just starting to experience the game.
@@projectdaaltaran actually it does matter a lot of new players came into monster hunter because of world. The new players that played world go into sunbreak and a lot of them don’t like it because it’s the OG formula for MH games. World brought the new players and if it wasn’t for world then Mh wouldn’t be this popular I have been playing Mh since the start which was ps2. lol and I ain’t no douche I just appreciate innovation and new things. You on the other hand sound like you base everything you talk about on just your own experience lol 😂 when talking to adults try and look at the crowd and see what the other adults are talking about and make your point.
@michaeldeleon8970 Your entire premise was based upon your own opinion and experiences. I on the other hand reference the community at large at basically every point I made. While Monster Hunter rise has many of the old structures, it maintains and even improved upon the quality of life in world. Many complain in the community about how far the quality of life went in rise compared to old games. And we see wild keeping at least some of these rise quality of life changes. I believe the argument could be made that rise is the easier game for new players to enter and explains itself better. Worlds tutorial was more clunky. And rise lets you enter the game quickly, experience fights and not get bogged down in cutscenes, which is a great option for those who want to get as much as possible out of a game within the window of wilds release. I really wasn't trying to squash your point. I was actually of the same opinion. My thought was practice and prepare for wilds with world. But then I watched a video where the person broke down the differences and explained why you should play world because it's the same. And I realized that this is the best opportunity for new players to quickly experience both options without having to buy three separate games. I was merely stating the antithesis to your statement so people could consider both takes.
I think World is probably closer to Wilds than Rise. That's a good thing. Rise is fun in what it sets out to accomplish in it's own way. I say check out Rise off to the side once you've finished World/Iceborne. It's a great experience too.
Once again, a high-quality video. The content is precise, insightful, and well-structured too. What else? Bravo and thank you.
cheers! appreciate the kind words
I bought world back in 2019 and only played it like 2 hours. Courtesy of ark, no mans sky, anthem, borderlands 3 etc etc. That and it was so complicated. Been watching oceanix videos. He does like a wildlife documentary. They're amazing! For rise and world. Thinking of getting rise and picking world back up. I just hope wilds has more monsters than both and a great variety of weapons as well.
Monster hunter world might seem like the logical choice, but has a major issue which is the clutch claw, which is a frustrating mechanic that thankfully is gone wilds.
The single player is overtuned in MHW as well, so if you like better action and/or single player, Rise will be your friend.
Also in Sunbreak you got AI hunters to come with you.
Also, way more customisation for your palico/palamute. It will introduce you to your mount companion and will generally respect your time more.
just completed MHWI it is a great game say that I think Rise out did it in every way expect story and environment. A palamute with a new skin shows the game it self is going to have more speed and play more like Rise I know you are getting clutch claw back but I hope they do a better job with how it works. The weapons are so much more fun to play with in rise the depth of skills is outstanding. Did a couple of survey for Capcom and the thing I wanted the most was to be able to carry 2 weapons I like the idea of shooting a flying monster out sky and when they are down being able to do at them with a sword can not wait for Wilds.
The clutch claw isn't back is it?
I know the slingshot is, but not actually grapple into monsters and tenderize, right?
Cause i will jump right off this train if the clutchclaw is back.
@@NemXX2 The clutch claw is back did not say grapple onto monsters was back but I think so. do not know why a through back to world? The worst part of world.
@@mshelton5036 No, but it's the sling shot that is back (the thing with ammo which you shoot into monsters), not necessarily the clutch claw with the same functionality. I do know it was used to charge into a monster in a combo, but that is very concerning. Can be a weapon move. As long as the tenderizing isn't back.
If i see a hunter grapple into the face of a monster and tenderizing i am so passing on wilds. 😅
It's doubtful clutch claw tenderizing will return since we have the new wounding/focus mode mechanic that seems to be replacing it
My friend and I tried to get a mutual friend to start Monster Hunter with World. It didn't go well. The starting cutscenes, the opening quests starting you on Zorah Magnaros's back, and the follow up jog to camp, made it feel like tutorial simulator to him. Then when he finally got to camp, and finally got to play with us, he found out that we could only meet up in camp in the multiplayer lobby, and he had to be the one to pick all the missions and such when he wanted us to lead while teaching him. And after all that; for the first available fight to not be any big monsters, he gave up, left a negative review, and is hesitant about playing any future MH games. I was going to see if I could salvage it with Rise since it didn't have any of that mess, but too many things got in the way: buying the game, having space and specs to play it on his computer, him having the time to play anymore, and me being the only person in our friend group to give Rise a chance.
Both should be played tbh
U can learn basic from mh easier in rise sunbreak+ meet some of the best wyvern and elder dragon
But mh iceborn what wild will be so i'd say both
100% agree, both great games :D
i completed the main story of world but i feel its hard to play single player due to the game being to clunky and its hard to roll away from the monster...a lot of my game play was getting hit all the time and it made the hunts ...rise was more better to evade attacks so i hope wilds is gonna be good
yeah evasion in MH just isn't quite like other RPGs (souls especially has much more i-frames), have you tried running evade window skill and/or the evasion mantle? makes attacks a lot easier to dodge!
Get both :-)
I love the gameplay of mhworld, I just hate the guiding lands. If I didn't need the materials from it, it would be my favorite game. As is, mh4u is still the best
It seems Capcom is keeping the style of Wilds true to MHW:IB, but also lowkey weaving in wirebugs mechanics in the demo (where hunter uses slinger to pull himself towards the monster after performing the focus, tackle style).
Kudos to Capcom for the innovation and can't wait to see demos of other weapons in action.
guys clearly it's monster hunter 1! new players would miss so much of the important overarching plot starting in 5th gen!😲
I think the dealbreaker is Co-Op and Multiplayer experience in general. It's very likely you'd be among someone who plays Monster Hunter if they are watching this video, and Rise is just the better multiplayer experience overall. You can move around the village together, not have your experience broken up by story cutscenes and missions, and most importantly everyone can be on the same starting line.
Like yeah, your friends with their decked out Amatsu gear would definitely trash your Low Rank beasties, but you aren't missing out on their movement capabilities. You can follow them easily thanks to less cluttered maps, you already have a Palamute instead of needing to unlock a Tailraider through a series of side quests, and the Wirebug is always there to help keep up.
It really sucked for my friend when he couldn't reach the Legiana nest of the Coral Highlands as fast as me because he didn't have a Tailraider nor knew all the Hook Beetle spots.
It was just easy for that same friend to hop into a MHRise game with me and get started without feeling gated by not knowing or doing something in their own time. Late-game doesn't matter if they can't get through the slog that is 2/3 of the player experience.
I loved World, so don't get me wrong, but that was exactly my biggest gripe with the game. I basically only play it coop with 3 of my closest friends and World constantly made it annoying to play with them.
Really hope something can be done about unskippable cutscenes. They're nice for the first time, but the option to skip should be there, especially if it's a new save.
After playing both rise and world...in my opinion rise is far superior. You don't have annoying tracking mechanics, each weapon has more moves, movement with wirebug is like in every way superior to clutchclaw. Mounting on rise is fun, the cutscenes are not forcing you to watch them and play them single player. It has mounts, better monster variety and lots of quality of lifes that world dont have... gathering spirit birds might be the worse thing about rise but ye world has no chance to rise except graphics. Plus the endgame of world is boring as heck and i hate both alatreon and fatalis...both awful fights compared to rise endgame monsters
Rise definitely has a better overall endgame monster pool, I'd love to see that sort of system come back! Rise/Sunbreak improved on a lot of World/Iceborne features, I made a separate video on stuff from Rise that should come back in Wilds. However, Worldborne is going to *play* much closer to how Wilds will feel, so that's why I ultimately recommend that, if you *have* to choose, Worldborne will prep you better for playing Wilds overall :D
World 100%. 1000k hours in just base. (2k total) 200 hours in rise and sun break…..
Haven't played Rise yet (downloading it now), but MHW is so woefully outdated design-wise it's scary to think it actually only came out in 2018. It's like something from the late 90s or early 2000s. Face-melting amounts of animation lock, half the i-frames on dodge rolls as Souls games, several obnoxious forms of boss cc that they routinely spam as get-out-of-jail-freed cards throughout combat, poorly designed spastic bosses who spam the same area-of-denial attacks constantly or simply launch themselves like a missile, garbage rabbit-hole style menu navigation, over reliance on consumable items, shitty itemization, prohibitive multiplayer functionality, useless Palico AI, meaningless grind... The list goes on and on. And that's not to mention the F-ing clutch claw and how it completely disrupts the flow of combat in almost every fight.
@@sandwichninja lol rise was made for switch. I’m a hammer main. Clutch claw is fluid and flawless. Graphics wise world was ahead of its time. And they’re on par with Elden ring. Only part of world I didn’t enjoy was the camera game. Played it this morning…
@@oldmangamer7161 I'm not complaining about MHW's graphics. It's the outmoded design choices that suck. That being said, I also like the hammer and enjoyed using it in World.
Is rise dead on ps5? Is it easy to matchmake or near impossible?
no clue, I've not played on PS5 much
Was just playing the other night. It’s pretty easy to hop into a game and also have people join your game. I still tend to prefer to play solo tho.
the actual answer is frontiers
Both, both is good
If you want to pause the game, rise.
Lol seriously though, what most of the comments are saying. World for a very immersive experience, and rise for more of a boss rush style, with a very expansive combat systems and combinations.
Just hop on rain server and play frontier
It's gona make wilds like brand new experiance
Mhw : soul like game
Mh rise: monster hunting game
Do you enjoy sony movie games like tlou and god of war? Then play world. Otherwise, play rise or GU
MHGU is great, honestly wilds looks to have a lot of 4U inspiration as well. older games are definitely less forgiving on beginners tho xD
@@LordViettnerright I wouldn’t recommend any of the older games let alone the psp ones with limited weapon moves.
Both!
I played both, MHW is better. Wilds be a better version of MHW
I played both and Rise is better. 🤷
Wilds seems to be a mix of both tbh.
I bought both for £8 each. Bailed on Rise after 4 hours and am about 20 in to World. For me it was the easier game to get to grips with. I’ll go back to Rise again after World though.
Why not MH4U?
game mechanics won't translate over as well, there's a ton of carry over from Worldborne into Wilds. The themes/characters are from 4U, but the game will play extremely similarly to World (with new mechanics, ofc)
Neither you play mh4u cause wilds is definitely a sequel to mh4u
I’m gonna just say first
this rathian hunt in background is why I don't like Rise, we miss so much of what make MH a great franchise. Just spamming one move or two, kind of boring
not entirely wrong, but the set I made was specifically made JUST to spam that silkbind. There's way more playstyles available in Rise than in World, and that run was just a showcase of one of them!
Wait what are you talking about? It was WAY more "spamming 1-2 moves" in the older games. Especially before MHGen/GenU, GS- literally just hold 1 button, Hammer is either 3-hits golf swing or charged slam, DB just spam demon dance and spinning slash, SnS is just the sword slash combo with some occasional shield bashes, switch axe just only morph to sword mode to do 2 slashes then dodge, Lance/GL literally just 2 types of poke,.... LS and CB are probably the only two had more dynamic in combat, when CB wasn't a SAED spammer and LS was more about spirit bar management not a counter spammer, but still in Rise you have 3 different kinds of counters can use differently after each other and can change your playstyle completely depend on the moves you select.
@@LordViettner sure mate
@@BadEnd98 indeed
Fam sunbreak was WAYYY TO EASY BECAUSE OF THE WIRE BUG AFTER 200+ hours I went back to iceborne 1600+ hours and adding more until wild releases
Anyone wanna buy me both games? Im poor as hell rn
I know u didnt just call those siege events fun. I have over 500 hours in mhw, spread across 3 characters. All 3 characters stopped at the siege events. I never fought fatallis. Mhw made me feel robbed from the endgame...
everyone enjoys different things, I liked the sense of community and trying to become as efficient as possible. we don't all have to play for the same reasons!
You also don't have to fight safi or KT to beat fatalis
WHAT!!! SMH Lao Shan would be disappointed to read this
For some reason people operate under the assumption you need to do Safi or Kulve to fight Fatalis. You don't. You don't even need ANY Safi or Kulve weapons and armor. Actually I would argue that Safi armor is actually too risky to use in that fight. There are much better options anyway. In terms of Kulve there is the event quest to fight her, you don't have to do the siege. So you can still get her armor (especially the MR Kulve legs they are very good) without ever stepping foot in the siege. Not only that but you can use unwanted Kulve parts at the melder to create Kulve weapons.
If anything using a Raging Brachy weapon. With a Raging Brachy mix set to get agitator secret is much better against Fatalis than any of the Siege stuff. The only thing that you could argue Siege weapons being optimal is with specifically elemental weapons. Like Dual blades and Bow. Other than that it's Raging Brachy all the way. Heck on my 1st Fatalis kill I was using the Alatreon SnS. I liked it because of it's huge purple sharpness and dragon is basically the only element Fatalis is somewhat weak to. You absolutely do not need to do the siege fights if you don't want to.
@@chewbacachunks8644 tons of disingenuous peeps when it comes to world, saw some people online exclaiming that world is the only game with rotating events (god forbid they discover that it existed in MH games since its inception) and how world introduced siege monsters, how hateful can one be to spread misinfo like these.