Look. I love the Punisher but Captain America? Spiderman? Wolverine? Get real. I can fight well but super human foes with those attributes would smack greater men than me around like a toddler. I get selling comics but come on. Wolverine can lift 2 tons and a human can turn his claws on him? If we are going to be in comic book world we should still be consistent.
I have SUCH a problem with wolverine being electrocuted to death. Serious BS there. Also, in a world like this theres no way the justice system would "punish" him too harshly. Hes a normal man who emotionally killed his family's killer.🤷♂️🤦♂️
@@collinpearson5456 bruh.🤯 Never once thought about that but yes. Absolutely. I would LOVE to know how he beat someone smarter, stronger, faster, better armored, a better fighter, and with the same willingness to take a life if necessary as him. Oh yeah and hes also one of the greatest tacticians in marvel. He would literally take one look at his history and be able to PERFECTLY predict castles movements and tactics.😂🤣🤦♂️
Marvel Comics is literally constructed out of plot armor. There is not a single story in the entire franchise that isn't constructed solely on infinite plot armor. Its why it is so stupid.
@@bakuya99 Sure. But wolverine can lift 400kg to 2tons. How can their even be a push and shove struggle between them? It would be like a world class athlete grappling with an elephant. I would say the writers fucked that one up. Plot armor or not.
Well... let's be fair the comics are also super into giving the "good" guys extreme amounts of plot armor. The boys show is great, the comics are good too but really nothing more than superhero torture porn.@@UnknownGamer40464
What Matt said at the end about how there's person behind each mask is so good, because I imagine if he knew who Peter Parker was, he'd already resolve to kill himself after killing everyone on his list
Gotta agree with you on that one. I noticed early on that lots of Frank's hits are not explained at all really. Like how did he convince BOTH sides of the mutants to end up on the moon?
@@DarksteelHeart that part I believe. He just posed as people’s enemies and challenged them to meet on the moon. And when both sides went to the moon, each thought the other side had challenged them.
@@treyhelms5282 but then wouldn't Xavier be able to tell right away something was up? Why would he go there himself? How the hell are they breathing? It just leaves me with so many questions. I love The Punisher and X Men so it doesn't bother me discussing it.
I get it for the story aspect but I really can't see the punisher taking out that many super heros. The plot armor this guy much have is amazing for this story to work.
That's why he doesn't really fight any of them. He lures them into traps ( Spider Man, the X-Men ), make them have accidents ( Avengers, maybe the Fantastic Four ), makes dirty moves ( Dr. Doom, Hulk ), etc. If anything, the only people he fought fair and square here were Kingpin, Wolverine and Captain America, and he got severely beaten by all 3.
@@manoeleduardoaraujofilho782 Even this doesn't make sense. Spider man would of sensed the gun and dodged it easily. This comic has way to much plot armor for it to be good.
@@deathblunt848 Not to mention Cap would, without any logical reason, turn his head away from Frank just enough for Frank to pull a swift one on Cap, lmao. That one is hella ridiculous. Even how he killed Dr. Doom is ridiculous.
Bro I stg and in these alternate stories he's literally always one of the first, and they kill him in the most bitchless way possible. At least let bro go out hard.
Spider-Man is my favorite superhero of all time and it REALLY pisses me off how much these stories disrespect him so much. They essentially just spit on his legacy when they kill him off for nothing more than shock value. Not just in this story, but in others like Marvel Zombies, Wolverine kills Marvel, Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe. Every single one of these stories turn Spider-Man into the wimpiest, dumbest version of himself that he can possibly be just so they can kill him for shock value. Spider-Man would NEVER go out that way.
What if this was just all in Punisher's head? like this is what he's doing to the superheroes and villains in his mind, and at the end he pulls the trigger but just wakes up, he opens his eyes looking at the ceiling, lying on his bed in his room, smirking and quietly says... "yeah.... that'd be so cool" and its back to normal lol
Here's the problem I have with The Punisher killing Captain America "Peak Human Reflexes: Rogers' reflexes border on superhuman level. His reaction speed is 20 kph, ten times faster than normal humans, which makes it possible for him to dodge gunfire, even at point blank range, from multiple shooters simultaneously as well as laser beams."
Spider-Man being first really sets the tone for the rest of the story. He’s one of the best and most ethical guys on the street and Frank has no regard for him because he’s with “them.” Tragic for this Peter.
You may think you hate superheroes. You may think that you've had enough of them. But you will never feel that way on the same level of Garth Ennis, the writer of this book. How did Punisher manage to defeat people like Thor? And the Silver Surfer? And Dr. Strange? Don't think about it. Just see how awesome Punisher is. Except Ennis even includes Daredevil as a voice of reason. Probably. Unless he made Matt act empathetically to highlight how much of a chump he is. That's not new for Ennis. Man wrote The Boys, you know.
Daredevil the voice of reason? Yeah well if Ennis got another issue or two we'd find out he's a diddler in the Catholic church or something. Always remember; there's no such thing as good people. Jesus Christ, I couldn't imagine being so damn cynical
He likes stories that kill a lot of heroes, and he likes death of the anti-hero endings. The ending of the boys comic is pretty much the same except that Butcher (basically the punisher) has someone else kill him before he detonates a bomb to blow up the city.
Forreal, its crazy. Even peters deah was total bs and completely unjustified and to make matters worse *ITS THE FIRST KILL*. Spidey sense wouldve let peter dodge it, and if he can easily cave in a car with one kick, a normal human is getting knocked out instantly. Plus he literally always saves innocents, even to his own fall. And the whole "billionares whos lives were ruined by heroes" thing? Are we… suposed to feel bad? Youre billionares, the damages theyve caused are realistically nothing. I dont know the continuity of the story, but the avengers should be paying for the damages thanks to stark no? "Oh, im a billionare who can get anything I want with money, now I look ugly and cant do that anymore, woe is me" Like Idrc if someone is obscenely rich, but dont expect pity points when your life can objectively be better than 99.99% of humanity. Ennis should just stay away from writing superheroes, the motivation, the scaling, none of it makes sense.
@@orangemaniabrother2232 That's a good thought! If Bruce got blindsided and shot without knowing, instantly fatal and no interaction to give him knowledge what was happening, would Hulk be able to still wake up?
@@DarksteelHeart Don't you think villains and even armed forces have tried to insta-kill banner so Hill can't emerge? Won't work. Any damage to Banner triggers the transformation, and the Hulk's healing factor takes over.
@@abdoucisse894 Lots of characters had theur lives ruined and families murdered and and all they got was a bs insincere apology. That is hella SAD and not only sad but INFURIATING.
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Yeah, there's an event I think has been in the MCU and comics: Banner is shot or shoots himself in the head, and Hulk spits out the bullet. And I wonder how the hell he killed Thor, Apocaylpse, and many other heavyweights.
My fav Punisher moment was from way back in Punisher #1. He is on a rooftop with some villain. The villain says "I have rights!" Frank responds with something along the lines of "Yea, you got rights. You have the right to be tossed of this roof. You have the right to bleed in the gutter. You have the right to be the example I am here."
It did say it was after he transformed back to Bruce and could barely stay awake. Is it possible that in those moments hulk and banner are so disoriented and weak they're vulnerable through banners brain?
a friend of mine told me once that Revenge is a fruitless mission with nothing but false comforts and endless missery, and that the only one who can stop that pain is the one that enacts it.
So Spider-Man doesn't leap away from the Punisher when he is able to dodge bullets all the other times. And Bruce Banner doesn't transform into the Hulk even though other times the "other guy" spits out the bullet when Bruce tries to end himself. This makes zero sense!
I kind of enjoy all these, *character* "kills the Marvel universe" stories. In a morbid sort of way. Probably because I was a huge fan of the "What-if" run. Plot armor or ludicrous set-up aside, It's fun to see these "otherworld" tales. Like seeing what our favorite heroes are capable of if they went completely unhinged, or didn't have to hold back.
Wow that is actually very accurate. One difference is Butcher doesn't care about innocent non-targeted people if they're in his way while Punisher is much more calculated about how and where he fights to avoid other people from dying.
Would be kinda cool if they picked up from this universe, though dark, they set it up for an age of new heroes/villains and mutants. They could do interesting plot points and stories with a backstory like that, where not just heroes but also villains would be afraid to make a new for themselves as for awhile they’d be unsure if the punisher is still out there
I could overlook the fact that he killed the mutants with a nuke even though Magneto could detect the metal warhead easily, but killing Wolverine by an electric fence?! It made sense with Deadpool did it cause he used carbonadium swords that nullify regenration and allow for a killing blow, but Frank literally just kicked him into an electric fence.
I like how they just turned The Punisher into Doom Guy. Both are marines with relentless anger who lost people, or a rabbit, that they cared about and who also kill overpowered beings that no normal human can do. If that doesn't scream "Doom Guy"; I don't know what does.
I know this was released over a year ago, but I keep coming back to this video; the mood, the voice acting-- all of that makes this video in particular so good and re-watchable, as are most of the Plot Armor Comics videos.
This story would had been more plausible if the billionaires had access to the Super Soldier Serum and gave it to Frank, or maybe if Frank inherited the Symbiote when he killed Eddie Brock.
yeah, seeing him overpower wolverine with only muscle was goofy, i had thought that he would reveal that he looted a strength enhancing serum from Doom's castle with how fast he turned wolverine's claw on him
I like to pretend that there's no such thing as cosmic beings in this universe. Idk, it always felt like the whole cosmic stuff only exists to give a reason for the hero and villain roster to forever and indefinetely expand. This is even a common trope utilized in The Boys's storylines. Bigger and stronger villains need to exist in order to validate the existence of bigger and stronger super heroes.
Once he sees the Herald of Galactus arriving on earth to announce the arrival of his master, Frank will be given the time to prepare. He’ll sit and wait with a sniper and on the day Galactus arrives, he’ll snipe him with 1 bullet and end him.
@@mrdude88 lol as if galactus will wait for him to do that, all of those heroes are caught off guard by punisher, he did not take any of them head on, this time, thanos or galactus will be expecting him, no tricks, he will either face them or he will die.
I find it interesting how frank kills the most innocent morally difficult one first so it wouldn’t weigh on his conscious as much and he wouldn’t have to focus on it, and could bury it as just doing his job.
This was the best thing I've watched all year. Your narration the comic clips everything. You did my favorite marvel character justice. Tha KS for your hard work and talent.
Always liked this "What if" story, mostly because Castle aka The Punisher is just a normal mortal with-out any super powers. Only his body and wits and some guns. But...I can't wonder on some details that makes it queastnble how he could have managed to kill some of the mighty heroes- & villains of the time. Such as; 1. Ghost Rider - He is practically immortal and works to avenge the innocents. No mortal tools can stop him. 2. Juggernaut - He is practically impossible to kill, but I guess an giant A-bomb would have fixed it on the moon with the rest. Possibly stuck there 3. Wolverine - Not impossible, but the way he was killed is questnble with the electrocution. 4. Thor - The Avengers teletransporter "accident" I can imagine scrambled him all over the universe, otherwise I wonder how Punisher possibly did it.
1. Ghost Rider is immortal, considering he's literally a being from Hell 2. Juggs was probably trapped on the moon after the nuke exploded, along with the rest of the seemingly immortal x-men 3. Adamantium hurts Wolverine, so stabbing him with his own claw would be potentially fatal, even surpassing his natural healing.
Damn this is tragic and heartbreaking. Someone who once had a code and somewhat a good man reduced to this due to extreme emotional trauma. And the real sad part is that this can happen to anyone. Something seriously bad making a person snap. But this was Punisher’s backstory from the jump. Castle became the punisher after his family was killed so how did he keep from going crazy here like in this one shot comic?
Originally, his family was killed by a joint gang hit ( 3 gangs aiming to kill Frank and his family ), so when he became the Punisher, he only punished truly bad guys and villains. Here, his family was reduced to " collateral damage " in a perpetual war between heroes and villains, and Cyclops's ( the one who apparently delivered the killing blow on Frank's family ) response was basically " was this your family? My bad, bro ". In this one shot universe, there's no such thing as good or bad guys to Frank, there's only super powered individuals who kill a lot of innocents while beating the crap out of each other a few times a month, all of them deserving punishment the same way.
@Manoel Eduardo Araujo Filho I didn’t know that. If that’s how it was originally why change it up from that to a mob hit that killed his entire family? Were they trying to give him a more relatable back story or something and or make him darker than he really was? And I see. That’s the way he took his response. But what about those who didn’t deserve to be punished like Murdock? He wasn’t even super powered unless you count his other senses being more heightened from losing his sight.
@@loyaldog5741 his backstory was never changed, it's always been that a mob hit killed his family. This is a solo comic that changed his backstory to give him reason to want to kill the superheroes, and is not canon
@@loyaldog5741the "Kills Everyone/The Marvel Universe" comics aren't canon. They're basically "what if/for fun" stories. There's even a "Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe" which is a dark comedy story,, using lots of dark humor.
"A fitting final punishment for one's whos crimes outnumbered any other" "IF YOU LIKED THIS VIDEO HIT THAT SUBSCRIBE BUTON IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY" goofy ah plot armor
Insane plot armor Every fight was basically: -Frank gets his shit kicked in -The target monologues right near him -Frank pulls out some gizmo/ gun out of his ass and kills them NO CHARACTER PROGRESSION 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥 NO MORALS 🔥🔥🔥 STRAIGHT DEPRESSION PORN SHIT WRITING 🗣🗣💯🔥
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It's also really tragic that Peter is one of the first to be "punished", considering he's one of the most wholesome and personally caring heroes usually.
Makes perfect sense, he's a hero too, only thing that doesn't is that he didn't know it's Matt. After bragging about doing recon earlier, and being such a calculated person, its unlikely that being he was planning to kill daredevil, he didn't discover his true identity
Heavy plot armored for most of those kills...magneto not sensing metal in a nuke...Wolverine being overpowered and stabbed with his own blades...by a man?....captain America being shot by a gun...so many more...
One thing I feel that 99% of comic book fans, punisher fans and critics always completely forget,don't know or understand about Frank Castle is the FACT that he became The💀Punisher because he's ready to die.
That ending is definitely a strong one we can't blame him for, but honestly, we be missing Deadpool, how the hell did he kill Deadpool, if Wolverine was nerfed hard enough im sure they could've thought of something lol
Deadpool either didnt exist in this universe or he was nerfed below the ground (tbf, everyone was nerfed to the ground. Peter, stark, banner, thor, magneto, I just dont see how those guys could loose to a normal guy with guns, and theyre not even the strongest save for thor) if I had to guess his nerf or bs plot convenience, the secret billionares actually have someone whos as smart as stark for some reason, and he makes a hyper cannon, and punisher lures deadpool to the cannon, then activates it and it sends a giant pulse wave that shoots deadpool into the sun. Does it make sense? No, but 90% of the deaths in this comic wouldnt.
Maybe I missed it in the beginning but when did this come out? I only remember the Punisher kills the Marvel Zombie universe series. Favorite Punisher storyline is probably the first from War Zone when the mob sends a group of hitmen after Frank and he befriends a female cop. Also where he hangs a goon from a hook and pretends to burn him with a popsicle. Loved it when they put that in the movie. Also the art in War Zone was incredible.
@@markmagician2471 I think this comic was written before that retcon happened back when the penance stare affected anyone whether they regret their actions or not
Frank would ENJOY the Penance Stare. It's like a "Frank's Greatest Hits" compilation. "Oh, I remember that guy! Fed him to a f***ing polar bear! Good times!"
I absolutely love this one , whenever Punisher and Wolverine throw down it's legendary . Plot armour yes , Wolvy would likely end him for sure but it's still badass !! Cheers mate , great vid !👊🤘
love the part where they have no way to get the Punisher to kill some heroes so they just leave it out and say "yeah he totally killed them" Punisher is physically incapable from killing Thor
Well depends in what version of Thor. In the original comics he was a doctor with a bum leg who could transform into the Mighty Thor by tapping his cane on the floor three times. And he would revert to human form if separated from his hammer for to long. The cane has been stolen and broken before too.
Or to kill Dr.Doom, or Hulk (Banner maybe), or so many others. And many of those on the moon would survice nukes easily. Oh and Logan wouldn't die from some shock, he has regenerated from mere skeleton after a nuke blast.
@@AllanSavolainen um it showed how he killed Banner and Doom. As for Wolverine regenerating from a Nuke that was a special case, he either had a special artifact or his powers were boosted by something. Also that was in a different universe as well, people's powers and strengths differ in each one. Also why would the folks on the Moon survive a surprise Nuke to the face? If they had time to prepare beforehand then yes but not with less than a second of warning.
@@DracoInduperator It "showed" be nerfing both DrDoom and Hulk. Though if it was a different universe where Doom is stupid then perhaps, but that is just lazy writing. And some of the mutants on the moon would be sturdy enough to survive a nuke. Though again if they are nerfed, then sure, but see previous point about lazy writing.
NOOOO HE KILLED SPIDER-MAN. :( he’s the only hero who actually sincerely apologizes. For jebus sake he answered a child’s wish and web swinged around with the poor kid. That comic made me cry cuz of how sweet it was
Yo brah. I love your narration. You made the comic come to life. No joke. You should look into reading books for audio. Im telling ya. You do a great job.
Favorite Punisher moments: Punisher vs. Barracuda one of the most brutal fights Punisher ever had Jason Aaron's first Punisher Run, When Bullseye discovers why he really began this war on crime. How he figured it out was sick and demented
I can still remember walking into Comic Castle in East San Jose back in 1985 and looking at the Punisher mini series front cover art by Myself Mike Zeck where he's unloading two .45 model 1911 pistols with a price tag of over 20 bucks each. I spent years digging through those white comic boxes looking for anything Punisher. 2 years later The Punisher 1st issue came out. A few years later when I graduated high school I joined the Marine Corps. Which is exactly why those Spec Ops trooper adopted the Punisher skull he's one of us.
The reason why frank castle offs himself at the end isnt because he regretted his decisions. Its really because he realized that he, too, was a superhuman, for he had the strongest power of them all, the power of plot armor.
One of the last good Marvel arcs I read was Punisher during the Dark Reign era. He started targeting super villains by using a mash up of scavenged super tech. It was everything you could want in a comic.
@@kushina382 Dark Reign was a good time period for most of Marvel comics, The Punisher arc is def worth reading, action with some twists, dark humor, and good character development.
Probably one of the worst Marvel stories around. Imagine killing all those heroes because your family died. And not just the ones who may have been responsible, but all of them. His family would have been ashamed of him. And then imagine a regular dude killing all of them. You can say one thing for comics, they can totally throw canon out the window and make something so absurd possible. What a joke.
@@mw9688 What does that have to do with anything? I don't write comic books, which I doubt you do too. But I'm a published writer of other works and I know how to craft a story. So, I will continue to hold my opinion. If you don't like that, the beauty of an opinion is that it doesn't have to inform yours, meaning you can move on. Isn't that weird how those work!?
@@mw9688 Maybe to you. But the fact that people agree with me speaks volumes. The writer of that particular series does seem to have a hate boner, lol. Anyways, good luck in your future trolling!
When writing an alternate reality, the idea is to keep everybody the same but change the events surrounding them. If The Punisher couldn't survive a day of the Imperfects invasion, what chances does he have of pulling this off?
Equivalent? Not even close. Batman at least has a genius level intellect beyond most characters in DC, a billionaire with INSANE TECH and super skilled in all martial arts.. Batman killing everyone in DC or Marvel is more believable.
It is copletly, and while some killing could have been written better its not the point i guess, the goal is the journey and its conclusion not how he travel but why and where. Its a spin off in the multivers so its fine. Many chars got some like that
At least 3 of these don't make any sense. If Captain America is able to see and react to bullets having one shot at him point blank shouldn't make a difference. Also Wolverine is basically fucking immortal as he can literally fully regenerate from a couple of cells after getting launched into the sun. Finally doctor doom could basically move his hand and he'd be dead.
Wolverine going to the sun will obviously kill him because all of his cells will be gone and the only thing that maybe remains is his skeleton. Also did you forget the vacuum of space will kill him. I mean Wolverine can't fly back to earth so yeah definitely death to him. Also they have been many times where Wolverine's healing factor is not like Deadpool. So yeah I think Wolverine died before he got power up that they (Comicbook Creators) gave to him during the time when they published this comic book.
Also do you know that this place is not in the 616 universe so anything you know about the character from 616 to this universe does not count and plot armour is strong with the Punisher. So yeah screw the most of the knowledge that you learnt about the character from the 616 universe and enjoy the story because that is how I enjoy the Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe even though Deadpool should have been defeated from the many many heroes and their cosmic and powerful weapons but they didn't.
@@chikebosah5714 Launching him into space when have been a far more realistic way to kill him. Also Deadpool killing everyone is far more believable than Punisher. I'd almost compare it to the punisher being a Honda civic and the likes of doctor doom, wolverine or captain America being a Lamborghini Aventador and racing where the civic wins.
@@RiverFerret I am sorry for not finishing the video before I reply to your comment. But yes, Deadpool is more believable than Punisher but I still don't believe Deadpool even with his healing factor can really kill even though I watch the video about it without plot armour. I mean he killed Ghost Rider which is hard without holy weapons that I believe Deadpool did not have. But still these are comic books where lower powerful but popular characters with graphic violence have supreme plot armour to kill the Marvel Universe.
8:07 Not gonna lie, I see this as Punisher's last heroic deed. Cause by killing Spider-man, he essentially saved him from a sight of horror and guilt by not being there sooner. It doesn't change the fact that he killed him in cold blood, but at least he's saving him from a nightmarish world. Mostly cause no one kills someone they truly respect and say "Because someone had to be first." and not mean it in some way, shape or form.
Moving thank you.. the quaver in your voice at the end helped make it.. next time leave a longer pause before the happy go lucky sign off to let us absorb the moment
But that's the thing. He can't stop Bruce from turning. Bruce shot himself in the head and still transformed and hulk spit the bullet out. You can't kill hulk by shooting Bruce. It doesn't work and has been done. Also the wolverine part. The dude survived a fucking nuke yet some electricity takes him out?
@@styxx5613 he killed him before he turned into the Hulk. The hardest one to pull of was Spider-Man because he could sense killing intent or harmful through his spidey senses. He apparently had to snipe him from some distance while he was busy fighting someone else. To me that was the most calculated hit I seen from punisher. The wolverine kill was even more sus as he just lured him into attacking him next to some power line that happened to have interconnected to the other power grids. This whole vendetta story was insane.
John berthal did a amazing job bringing out frank castle! Just like everyone saying noone c ould do iron man as well as robert same for john. I watched a interview with john saying he felt bad for his family because he would stay in role even when he was home. Thats dedication to not screw up his role
Can we just talk about how sad Spider-Man's death was, he was trying to stop venom to having a gun pointed at his head and his last words being, why me...😢
The only problem with this theory is that the Hulk tried to kill themselves numerous times,and a single bullet wouldn't do anything, so this is poor writing.
@@manoeleduardoaraujofilho782 so what if the heroes didnt come and the aliens killed his family anyway? He would kill them because they didnt act? All in all Punisher is neither a hero nor a good guy.
@@espernova228 Never said he was either. Given the ending, Frank himself doesn't believe him to be one. But i'll be damned if i can't understand his motivations. No one gives a fuck about collateral damage until it happens to someone they care or love, specially if it doesn't seem like an " accident ". Like, who cares that your family died if the heroes saved the city, probably for the third time this month? And let's be honest, Cyclops going " Hey bro, was that your family? Oopsie poopsie, my bad 😊 " feels like this is not the first time he incinerates a bunch of innocents " by accident " and now he's just numb to it. What Frank actually heard there was among the line of " Yeah, people always die on these crossfires, but no one cares since i saved the city, so why should i? You'll mourn them, then you'll forget them and the world keeps spinning, get over it ". It's like Murdock says at the end " there's always people behind the masks " and there's also a lot of people behind every building the Hulk or Thor get thrown at. Will they feel that or will they just brush it off because it's in their line of duty/higher calling as a super hero?
Its hilarious how whenever someone dies thats just a civilian, its collateral damage, yet if someone a superhero loves dies, everyone laps up the vengeance arc.
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Look. I love the Punisher but Captain America? Spiderman? Wolverine? Get real. I can fight well but super human foes with those attributes would smack greater men than me around like a toddler. I get selling comics but come on. Wolverine can lift 2 tons and a human can turn his claws on him? If we are going to be in comic book world we should still be consistent.
@@ronsmithify aaMAwa
I have SUCH a problem with wolverine being electrocuted to death. Serious BS there.
Also, in a world like this theres no way the justice system would "punish" him too harshly. Hes a normal man who emotionally killed his family's killer.🤷♂️🤦♂️
I wonder how he managed to kill black panther
@@collinpearson5456 bruh.🤯
Never once thought about that but yes. Absolutely. I would LOVE to know how he beat someone smarter, stronger, faster, better armored, a better fighter, and with the same willingness to take a life if necessary as him. Oh yeah and hes also one of the greatest tacticians in marvel. He would literally take one look at his history and be able to PERFECTLY predict castles movements and tactics.😂🤣🤦♂️
Just one motivated Marine and infinite plot armor.
Frank has a machine that punches him he literally has become immune to getting punched.
Plot armor: the only thing more powerful than the high ground.
Marvel Comics is literally constructed out of plot armor. There is not a single story in the entire franchise that isn't constructed solely on infinite plot armor. Its why it is so stupid.
@@simonfarre4907 it’d be sad watching spider man die by getting shot by some random thug though
@@bakuya99 Sure. But wolverine can lift 400kg to 2tons. How can their even be a push and shove struggle between them? It would be like a world class athlete grappling with an elephant. I would say the writers fucked that one up. Plot armor or not.
Fun fact: This comic was written by Garth Ennis, long before he wrote The Boys. So you could say this was Ennis' first shot at that idea.
I'm glad the boys ended up way better than this
Ah, explains why it was so stupid.
Well... let's be fair the comics are also super into giving the "good" guys extreme amounts of plot armor. The boys show is great, the comics are good too but really nothing more than superhero torture porn.@@UnknownGamer40464
Yep lol
@@UnknownGamer40464honestly the boys comic is pretty meh, the show is significantly better
My god I can’t imagine giving frank this much plot armor and nerfing this many heros
Bro that's what I'm saying
Potential what if episode someday in D+ lol
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True but at the same time a bullet to the head is honestly going to kill like 98% of ppl in comics "realisticly"
Yeh there’s no way he would’ve survived Wolverine ripping him to shreds. End of comic.
What Matt said at the end about how there's person behind each mask is so good, because I imagine if he knew who Peter Parker was, he'd already resolve to kill himself after killing everyone on his list
exactly
Captain america not reacting to a guy picking up a pistol aiming it at his head and shooting it, is probably the most hilarious out of these.
frank basically got him with the "LOOK OVER THERE!"
Lol the fact magneto didn’t sense the metal components in a nuke is pure PLOT 😂
Kinda agree with you. Maybe you could excuse it saying it was designed to be undetectable by DOOM?
Gotta agree with you on that one.
I noticed early on that lots of Frank's hits are not explained at all really. Like how did he convince BOTH sides of the mutants to end up on the moon?
@@DarksteelHeart that part I believe. He just posed as people’s enemies and challenged them to meet on the moon. And when both sides went to the moon, each thought the other side had challenged them.
@@treyhelms5282 but then wouldn't Xavier be able to tell right away something was up? Why would he go there himself? How the hell are they breathing? It just leaves me with so many questions. I love The Punisher and X Men so it doesn't bother me discussing it.
@@DarksteelHeart "Hey Xmen. Up yours. - Magneto."
I get it for the story aspect but I really can't see the punisher taking out that many super heros. The plot armor this guy much have is amazing for this story to work.
That's why he doesn't really fight any of them. He lures them into traps ( Spider Man, the X-Men ), make them have accidents ( Avengers, maybe the Fantastic Four ), makes dirty moves ( Dr. Doom, Hulk ), etc. If anything, the only people he fought fair and square here were Kingpin, Wolverine and Captain America, and he got severely beaten by all 3.
@@manoeleduardoaraujofilho782 Even this doesn't make sense. Spider man would of sensed the gun and dodged it easily. This comic has way to much plot armor for it to be good.
@@deathblunt848 Not to mention Cap would, without any logical reason, turn his head away from Frank just enough for Frank to pull a swift one on Cap, lmao.
That one is hella ridiculous. Even how he killed Dr. Doom is ridiculous.
@@deathblunt848 exactly.
@Rockshy Yeah soon as I saw that I knew this was too stupid to believe...even in a comic book.
Spiderman always gets the raw end of the deal. Poor guy is likely the only hero that didn't have a solid reason to be executed.
Bro I stg and in these alternate stories he's literally always one of the first, and they kill him in the most bitchless way possible. At least let bro go out hard.
He's certainly not the only one that didnt have a solid reason to be executed.
Spiderman threw my car and killed my pets inside
Spider-Man is my favorite superhero of all time and it REALLY pisses me off how much these stories disrespect him so much. They essentially just spit on his legacy when they kill him off for nothing more than shock value. Not just in this story, but in others like Marvel Zombies, Wolverine kills Marvel, Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe. Every single one of these stories turn Spider-Man into the wimpiest, dumbest version of himself that he can possibly be just so they can kill him for shock value. Spider-Man would NEVER go out that way.
@@everythingpony😂😂
What if this was just all in Punisher's head? like this is what he's doing to the superheroes and villains in his mind, and at the end he pulls the trigger but just wakes up, he opens his eyes looking at the ceiling, lying on his bed in his room, smirking and quietly says... "yeah.... that'd be so cool" and its back to normal lol
Then Frank hug superhero
lol
Frank wouldn’t say “ that’d be so cool” what kinda 12 year old
crap is that
@@Z3AL316 Frank wouldn't but garth ennis definitely would
It's never a Punisher story unless the immortal question "Who Punishes The Punisher?" is answered, and the answer undeniably: "Frank Castle."
I do believe he has died at the end of every ''What If...'' issue he's ever been featured in.
The end got to me, he knew he was wrong for it so the only person that could put an end to himself is was him.
and then comes the "THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING THE VIDEO!"
Is was
How the hell did he manage to kill juggernaut and apocalypse with a nuke.
because plot
Jean grey as well aka Phoenix and storm.
Black Adam couldn’t even defeat Apocalypse. I doubt he could kill a being who’s lived through Egyptian times like apocalypse
It's just silly non canon spin off. Just enjoy it
Same way he killed wolverine with electric...
Here's the problem I have with The Punisher killing Captain America "Peak Human Reflexes: Rogers' reflexes border on superhuman level. His reaction speed is 20 kph, ten times faster than normal humans, which makes it possible for him to dodge gunfire, even at point blank range, from multiple shooters simultaneously as well as laser beams."
...It's not even like he had him exhausted. He just cut him off guard and blew his brains out which he would have dodged, same with spider man
Spider-Man being first really sets the tone for the rest of the story. He’s one of the best and most ethical guys on the street and Frank has no regard for him because he’s with “them.” Tragic for this Peter.
You may think you hate superheroes. You may think that you've had enough of them. But you will never feel that way on the same level of Garth Ennis, the writer of this book.
How did Punisher manage to defeat people like Thor? And the Silver Surfer? And Dr. Strange? Don't think about it. Just see how awesome Punisher is.
Except Ennis even includes Daredevil as a voice of reason. Probably. Unless he made Matt act empathetically to highlight how much of a chump he is. That's not new for Ennis. Man wrote The Boys, you know.
Daredevil the voice of reason? Yeah well if Ennis got another issue or two we'd find out he's a diddler in the Catholic church or something. Always remember; there's no such thing as good people.
Jesus Christ, I couldn't imagine being so damn cynical
He likes stories that kill a lot of heroes, and he likes death of the anti-hero endings. The ending of the boys comic is pretty much the same except that Butcher (basically the punisher) has someone else kill him before he detonates a bomb to blow up the city.
Forreal, its crazy. Even peters deah was total bs and completely unjustified and to make matters worse *ITS THE FIRST KILL*. Spidey sense wouldve let peter dodge it, and if he can easily cave in a car with one kick, a normal human is getting knocked out instantly. Plus he literally always saves innocents, even to his own fall. And the whole "billionares whos lives were ruined by heroes" thing? Are we… suposed to feel bad? Youre billionares, the damages theyve caused are realistically nothing. I dont know the continuity of the story, but the avengers should be paying for the damages thanks to stark no? "Oh, im a billionare who can get anything I want with money, now I look ugly and cant do that anymore, woe is me" Like Idrc if someone is obscenely rich, but dont expect pity points when your life can objectively be better than 99.99% of humanity. Ennis should just stay away from writing superheroes, the motivation, the scaling, none of it makes sense.
... If killing the Hulk were that easy, Banner would have got the job done long ago. SoD destroyed 9 minutes in.
Exactly, Banner said he tried to kill himself, only to wake up as Hulk and the bullet out of his head, so no, this would not happen
@@louis-patrickrancourt1565 that was the movie. Much later than this.
Also I'm fairly certain this comic got retconned a while back.
The difference is Hulk knows when Banner wants to kill him
@@orangemaniabrother2232 That's a good thought!
If Bruce got blindsided and shot without knowing, instantly fatal and no interaction to give him knowledge what was happening, would Hulk be able to still wake up?
@@DarksteelHeart Don't you think villains and even armed forces have tried to insta-kill banner so Hill can't emerge? Won't work. Any damage to Banner triggers the transformation, and the Hulk's healing factor takes over.
So heartbreaking and badass all at once…Frank’s sorrow will always tear at my heart strings.
Not badass, and not sad. Plot armor
This is PIS......that is over 9000!!!
@@abdoucisse894 Lots of characters had theur lives ruined and families murdered and and all they got was a bs insincere apology. That is hella SAD and not only sad but INFURIATING.
Badass??? He did a genocide. People (mostly old straight men) who look up to the punisher need to go to therapy.
@@abdoucisse894 Bro it's one comic out of millions. There's bound to be a story with plot armor when it's about the weaker characters. Grow tf up
Punisher has got to be one of my fav anti heroes fr, plus the fact that a version of him became the cosmic ghost rider is just awesone.
apologies I thought he was an anti-villain. oh welp.
@@Raether608 lmao😭😭😭😭I don’t blame you
@@IceMannnnnnn lel
Awesome thanks no Batman can ever compare 😢
They killed his family... just like that😢😢
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Plot twist: Frank wakes up next to his wife in bed. "Only in a dream could a normal man kill all super humans" Frank Thought to himself.
How the hell does Bruce banner get killed by a bullet and wolverine get overpowered so easily?
Ikr
Because Garth Ennis hates superheroes.
Right? Wolverine fought Sabertooth and the Hulk dozens of times, but get manhandled by Frank Castle?!
This was castles moment let him have it lmao
Yeah, there's an event I think has been in the MCU and comics: Banner is shot or shoots himself in the head, and Hulk spits out the bullet. And I wonder how the hell he killed Thor, Apocaylpse, and many other heavyweights.
Plot armor is the ultimate king 🤴of all marvel comics and anime
It would be the king of everything fictional.
There ARE characters with plot manipulation.
Wolverine dying to an electrified fence.. Even a nuclear one. Who the hell wrote this!?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Do not take this seriously.
Garth Ennis, the writer with the biggest Hero Hate Boner ever and writer of The Boys.
Wolverine survived Hiroshima... and his healing factor is now the only reason he's alive minute to minute because of his irritated bones.
My fav Punisher moment was from way back in Punisher #1. He is on a rooftop with some villain. The villain says "I have rights!" Frank responds with something along the lines of "Yea, you got rights. You have the right to be tossed of this roof. You have the right to bleed in the gutter. You have the right to be the example I am here."
What if... everyone was impossibly stupid and their powers didn't work?
Batman: my plot armor is unreal no one can match it
Punisher:hold my gun
Especially him killing dr banner, but hey there wouldn’t be good comics without it
Punisher: On second thought, gimme back my gun. I'm gonna need it
The craziest plot armor I’ve ever seen
Come on now, if Punisher shot Banner the Hulk would've spit the bullet out and killed him. Lol.
depends on the time the comic came out, the character progression of bruce and the powers of the hulk, not all are immortal man
No, because Banner trying to kill himself would activate the hulk in advance, hulk can see it coming. This he can't
@@orangemaniabrother2232 no, no, your completely wrong, hulk comes out whenever bruce is damaged in any way, hulk would come out after bruce is shot.
It did say it was after he transformed back to Bruce and could barely stay awake. Is it possible that in those moments hulk and banner are so disoriented and weak they're vulnerable through banners brain?
@@orangemaniabrother2232 isnt it pain induced? lol you dont always die instantly from a gunshot wound.. even to the head.
a friend of mine told me once that Revenge is a fruitless mission with nothing but false comforts and endless missery, and that the only one who can stop that pain is the one that enacts it.
I like to imagine that The Punisher killed DeadPool with the writer's giant eraser.
that end is so sad. Punisher story really just make me cry and stunned on how it was so good.
6:44
YEAH IT'S PUNISHIN' TIME!!
DEFINITELY ONE OF THE MOMENTS EVER IN HISTORY!
So Spider-Man doesn't leap away from the Punisher when he is able to dodge bullets all the other times. And Bruce Banner doesn't transform into the Hulk even though other times the "other guy" spits out the bullet when Bruce tries to end himself. This makes zero sense!
what if scenario can excuse the hulk being a different universe but spidey sense should have kicked in for sure
@@Gizzor maybe that spidey sense don’t help much when you are literally unable to move and already nearly dead from electrocution
@@mw9688 electro has entered the chat
This was awesome!! I haven’t picked up this issue since High School and it was so great being taken back there with you as a guide! Awesome stuff!
I kind of enjoy all these, *character* "kills the Marvel universe" stories. In a morbid sort of way. Probably because I was a huge fan of the "What-if" run. Plot armor or ludicrous set-up aside, It's fun to see these "otherworld" tales. Like seeing what our favorite heroes are capable of if they went completely unhinged, or didn't have to hold back.
Essentially Punisher becomes Billy Butcher
Wow that is actually very accurate. One difference is Butcher doesn't care about innocent non-targeted people if they're in his way while Punisher is much more calculated about how and where he fights to avoid other people from dying.
@@noeherrera8248 yeah makes sense because he doesn't want to kill innocent people the same way his family was killed. At least he's not a hypocrite
dint the creator of the boys make this comic?
@@matiasdiaz8913 yeah, it is the same person who wrote the original the boys comic series
@@markanthonyportem3430 That definetely explains a lot of the messages in the comic.
Would be kinda cool if they picked up from this universe, though dark, they set it up for an age of new heroes/villains and mutants.
They could do interesting plot points and stories with a backstory like that, where not just heroes but also villains would be afraid to make a new for themselves as for awhile they’d be unsure if the punisher is still out there
I could overlook the fact that he killed the mutants with a nuke even though Magneto could detect the metal warhead easily, but killing Wolverine by an electric fence?!
It made sense with Deadpool did it cause he used carbonadium swords that nullify regenration and allow for a killing blow, but Frank literally just kicked him into an electric fence.
I like how they just turned The Punisher into Doom Guy. Both are marines with relentless anger who lost people, or a rabbit, that they cared about and who also kill overpowered beings that no normal human can do. If that doesn't scream "Doom Guy"; I don't know what does.
I know this was released over a year ago, but I keep coming back to this video; the mood, the voice acting-- all of that makes this video in particular so good and re-watchable, as are most of the Plot Armor Comics videos.
This story would had been more plausible if the billionaires had access to the Super Soldier Serum and gave it to Frank, or maybe if Frank inherited the Symbiote when he killed Eddie Brock.
Or “Golden Sentry Serum
yeah, seeing him overpower wolverine with only muscle was goofy, i had thought that he would reveal that he looted a strength enhancing serum from Doom's castle with how fast he turned wolverine's claw on him
Punisher fan boys were happy with it as it was.
But now nothing's protecting the planet from Galactus or from Thanos
Ow yeah he straight up killed the human race. A selfish monster through and through
I like to pretend that there's no such thing as cosmic beings in this universe. Idk, it always felt like the whole cosmic stuff only exists to give a reason for the hero and villain roster to forever and indefinetely expand. This is even a common trope utilized in The Boys's storylines. Bigger and stronger villains need to exist in order to validate the existence of bigger and stronger super heroes.
In this canon, Punisher probably just shoots them with a pistol and kills them. 😂
Once he sees the Herald of Galactus arriving on earth to announce the arrival of his master, Frank will be given the time to prepare. He’ll sit and wait with a sniper and on the day Galactus arrives, he’ll snipe him with 1 bullet and end him.
@@mrdude88 lol as if galactus will wait for him to do that, all of those heroes are caught off guard by punisher, he did not take any of them head on, this time, thanos or galactus will be expecting him, no tricks, he will either face them or he will die.
I find it interesting how frank kills the most innocent morally difficult one first so it wouldn’t weigh on his conscious as much and he wouldn’t have to focus on it, and could bury it as just doing his job.
Mass-shooter psychology, innocents first.
Punisher kills,the marvel universe,Deadpool also kills the Marvel universe,whats next? Howard the duck kills Marvel universe?
This was the best thing I've watched all year. Your narration the comic clips everything. You did my favorite marvel character justice. Tha KS for your hard work and talent.
Always liked this "What if" story, mostly because Castle aka The Punisher is just a normal mortal with-out any super powers. Only his body and wits and some guns. But...I can't wonder on some details that makes it queastnble how he could have managed to kill some of the mighty heroes- & villains of the time. Such as;
1. Ghost Rider - He is practically immortal and works to avenge the innocents. No mortal tools can stop him.
2. Juggernaut - He is practically impossible to kill, but I guess an giant A-bomb would have fixed it on the moon with the rest. Possibly stuck there
3. Wolverine - Not impossible, but the way he was killed is questnble with the electrocution.
4. Thor - The Avengers teletransporter "accident" I can imagine scrambled him all over the universe, otherwise I wonder how Punisher possibly did it.
1. Ghost Rider is immortal, considering he's literally a being from Hell
2. Juggs was probably trapped on the moon after the nuke exploded, along with the rest of the seemingly immortal x-men
3. Adamantium hurts Wolverine, so stabbing him with his own claw would be potentially fatal, even surpassing his natural healing.
@@SSD_Penumbra Amen!!!!
@@WarioSaysSo Homie also scared the Joker shitless and broke him in a sense
@@ZackarySchejbalCODBO2RGM2 Ha! He should.
Add strange and wanda and deadpool and moon knight and so many others to the mix
I love how Punisher is ambitious and determined to kill good and bad guys, he simply just does what it needs to be done
What he thinks needs to be done.
@@A-Champ and what he thinks needs to be done sometimes is actually what needs to be done. Aha
He a mad man 😂
@@DontTripChickenStrip is it actually though? He can still be wrong you know
...but simply doesn't have what it takes to get it done.
Damn this is tragic and heartbreaking. Someone who once had a code and somewhat a good man reduced to this due to extreme emotional trauma. And the real sad part is that this can happen to anyone. Something seriously bad making a person snap. But this was Punisher’s backstory from the jump. Castle became the punisher after his family was killed so how did he keep from going crazy here like in this one shot comic?
Originally, his family was killed by a joint gang hit ( 3 gangs aiming to kill Frank and his family ), so when he became the Punisher, he only punished truly bad guys and villains. Here, his family was reduced to " collateral damage " in a perpetual war between heroes and villains, and Cyclops's ( the one who apparently delivered the killing blow on Frank's family ) response was basically " was this your family? My bad, bro ".
In this one shot universe, there's no such thing as good or bad guys to Frank, there's only super powered individuals who kill a lot of innocents while beating the crap out of each other a few times a month, all of them deserving punishment the same way.
@Manoel Eduardo Araujo Filho I didn’t know that. If that’s how it was originally why change it up from that to a mob hit that killed his entire family? Were they trying to give him a more relatable back story or something and or make him darker than he really was?
And I see. That’s the way he took his response. But what about those who didn’t deserve to be punished like Murdock? He wasn’t even super powered unless you count his other senses being more heightened from losing his sight.
@@loyaldog5741 his backstory was never changed, it's always been that a mob hit killed his family. This is a solo comic that changed his backstory to give him reason to want to kill the superheroes, and is not canon
Basically, Joker's point in Dark Knight
@@loyaldog5741the "Kills Everyone/The Marvel Universe" comics aren't canon. They're basically "what if/for fun" stories. There's even a "Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe" which is a dark comedy story,, using lots of dark humor.
the pure plot armour in this story
Didn't know it was that easy to kill the hulk lol
The “there’s one more to go” hit deep! Nicely done bravo 👏🏽🤙🏽
Well, I hope they show how he killed Deadpool but a bit of a shame they didn't show or tell
Is it bc he’s also an anti hero and doesn’t Deadpool also have a comic where he kills off the marvel universe including thanos and galaticus?
I'm not sure if Deadpool was a character when this came out. Or if Deadpool was that big at the time.
@@rondog5 well there’s 2 conspiracies here and I’m sure one of them is accurate
@@rondog5 this comic was published only 4 years after Deadpool's debut so yeah he wasn't that big of a character at that point
deadpool killed the entire mcu, and the artists of the comic ;p
I know it will never happen but this as a movie would be so SICK!!!!
"A fitting final punishment for one's whos crimes outnumbered any other"
"IF YOU LIKED THIS VIDEO HIT THAT SUBSCRIBE BUTON IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY"
goofy ah plot armor
Insane plot armor
Every fight was basically:
-Frank gets his shit kicked in
-The target monologues right near him
-Frank pulls out some gizmo/ gun out of his ass and kills them
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Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: All right, knock it off! Two hundred and fifty feet! He was two hundred and fifty feet away and shooting at a moving target. Oswald got off three rounds with an old Italian bolt action rifle in only six seconds and scored two hits, including a head shot! Do any of you people know where these individuals learned to shoot? Private Joker?
Private Joker: Sir, in the Marines, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman : In the Marines! Outstanding! Those individuals showed what one motivated marine and his rifle can do! And before you ladies leave my island, you will be able to do the same thing!
Your voice acting as the characters is on point. Good job brah
It is fitting that the final person punisher kills is daredevil as only Murdock at the end could make him realize what he really just did.
It's also really tragic that Peter is one of the first to be "punished", considering he's one of the most wholesome and personally caring heroes usually.
Makes perfect sense, he's a hero too, only thing that doesn't is that he didn't know it's Matt. After bragging about doing recon earlier, and being such a calculated person, its unlikely that being he was planning to kill daredevil, he didn't discover his true identity
Holy cow, the voice acting is on POINT, 👌🏾👌🏾
Nah he doesnt have range. Just volume. He also cannot get low with his pitch.
Heavy plot armored for most of those kills...magneto not sensing metal in a nuke...Wolverine being overpowered and stabbed with his own blades...by a man?....captain America being shot by a gun...so many more...
One thing I feel that 99% of comic book fans, punisher fans and critics always completely forget,don't know or understand about Frank Castle is the FACT that he became The💀Punisher because he's ready to die.
That ending is definitely a strong one we can't blame him for, but honestly, we be missing Deadpool, how the hell did he kill Deadpool, if Wolverine was nerfed hard enough im sure they could've thought of something lol
Deadpool either didnt exist in this universe or he was nerfed below the ground (tbf, everyone was nerfed to the ground. Peter, stark, banner, thor, magneto, I just dont see how those guys could loose to a normal guy with guns, and theyre not even the strongest save for thor) if I had to guess his nerf or bs plot convenience, the secret billionares actually have someone whos as smart as stark for some reason, and he makes a hyper cannon, and punisher lures deadpool to the cannon, then activates it and it sends a giant pulse wave that shoots deadpool into the sun. Does it make sense? No, but 90% of the deaths in this comic wouldnt.
“THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING THE VIDEO!” Went from cue the sad ass music to radio talk show hype man in mere seconds 💀
ikr 💀
Maybe I missed it in the beginning but when did this come out? I only remember the Punisher kills the Marvel Zombie universe series.
Favorite Punisher storyline is probably the first from War Zone when the mob sends a group of hitmen after Frank and he befriends a female cop. Also where he hangs a goon from a hook and pretends to burn him with a popsicle. Loved it when they put that in the movie. Also the art in War Zone was incredible.
I loved Lynn Michaels.
Highly underrated channel. The expression, the story telling everything was just perfect. Keep it up bro..
I knew this was gonna strike a nerve in me as soon as spidey died, they did my boy wrong
Can you imagine if Frank and Micro would have faced Ghost Rider's Penance Stare?
Frank would be fine. Punisher is immune to the Penance Stare since Frank doesn't regret killing
@@markmagician2471 I think this comic was written before that retcon happened back when the penance stare affected anyone whether they regret their actions or not
@@markmagician2471 You're right. He wouldn't regret anything
Frank would ENJOY the Penance Stare. It's like a "Frank's Greatest Hits" compilation.
"Oh, I remember that guy! Fed him to a f***ing polar bear! Good times!"
I dont think the Stare would work on Punisher
I absolutely love this one , whenever Punisher and Wolverine throw down it's legendary .
Plot armour yes , Wolvy would likely end him for sure but it's still badass !!
Cheers mate , great vid !👊🤘
This is pretty much the prototype version of The Boys
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I love how they have tried to kill hulk like this , even baner tried shooting himself … no dice 🤷🏾♂️
love the part where they have no way to get the Punisher to kill some heroes so they just leave it out and say "yeah he totally killed them"
Punisher is physically incapable from killing Thor
Well depends in what version of Thor. In the original comics he was a doctor with a bum leg who could transform into the Mighty Thor by tapping his cane on the floor three times. And he would revert to human form if separated from his hammer for to long. The cane has been stolen and broken before too.
Or to kill Dr.Doom, or Hulk (Banner maybe), or so many others. And many of those on the moon would survice nukes easily. Oh and Logan wouldn't die from some shock, he has regenerated from mere skeleton after a nuke blast.
@@AllanSavolainen um it showed how he killed Banner and Doom. As for Wolverine regenerating from a Nuke that was a special case, he either had a special artifact or his powers were boosted by something. Also that was in a different universe as well, people's powers and strengths differ in each one.
Also why would the folks on the Moon survive a surprise Nuke to the face? If they had time to prepare beforehand then yes but not with less than a second of warning.
@@DracoInduperator It "showed" be nerfing both DrDoom and Hulk. Though if it was a different universe where Doom is stupid then perhaps, but that is just lazy writing.
And some of the mutants on the moon would be sturdy enough to survive a nuke. Though again if they are nerfed, then sure, but see previous point about lazy writing.
Spidey would not also just stand there, he wasn’t THAT weakened and most likely could avoid that shot with his spidey sense
I really appreciate these videos and the effort to narrate the voices .....
Great work 👏 👍
Without plot armor comics I wouldn’t have known how strong marvel comic characters are really are
This is not the first time this story has been reviewed on UA-cam. Other UA-cam has done all the “Kills the Marvel Universe” stories.
Nah this punisher guy just has the thickest plot armor in the history of plot armor users
Maybe by picking up an actual comic
@@Wandasolosurfavs this is an actual comic
25:50 "A tragic, but fitting punishment, for ones crimes who outnumber any other.. THANK YOU, SO MUCH FOR WATCHING THE VIDEO!"
NOOOO HE KILLED SPIDER-MAN. :( he’s the only hero who actually sincerely apologizes. For jebus sake he answered a child’s wish and web swinged around with the poor kid. That comic made me cry cuz of how sweet it was
I mean, spiderman also did use his wall-clinging abilities to literally rip the skin off an enemy once.
Yea once. He did that again. He’s had it rough enough as it is.
That tone shift at the very end of the story to "energetic youtuber outro" was so jarring what the hell
this is extremely different form the time deadpool killed everybody
Yo brah. I love your narration. You made the comic come to life. No joke. You should look into reading books for audio. Im telling ya. You do a great job.
Favorite Punisher moments:
Punisher vs. Barracuda one of the most brutal fights Punisher ever had
Jason Aaron's first Punisher Run, When Bullseye discovers why he really began this war on crime. How he figured it out was sick and demented
I can still remember walking into Comic Castle in East San Jose back in 1985 and looking at the Punisher mini series front cover art by Myself Mike Zeck where he's unloading two .45 model 1911 pistols with a price tag of over 20 bucks each. I spent years digging through those white comic boxes looking for anything Punisher. 2 years later The Punisher 1st issue came out. A few years later when I graduated high school I joined the Marine Corps. Which is exactly why those Spec Ops trooper adopted the Punisher skull he's one of us.
The reason why frank castle offs himself at the end isnt because he regretted his decisions. Its really because he realized that he, too, was a superhuman, for he had the strongest power of them all, the power of plot armor.
The last kill made me cry
One of the last good Marvel arcs I read was Punisher during the Dark Reign era. He started targeting super villains by using a mash up of scavenged super tech. It was everything you could want in a comic.
Is it worth the read?
@@kushina382 Dark Reign was a good time period for most of Marvel comics, The Punisher arc is def worth reading, action with some twists, dark humor, and good character development.
Probably one of the worst Marvel stories around. Imagine killing all those heroes because your family died. And not just the ones who may have been responsible, but all of them. His family would have been ashamed of him. And then imagine a regular dude killing all of them. You can say one thing for comics, they can totally throw canon out the window and make something so absurd possible. What a joke.
Garth Ennis' hateboner for superheroes is explaination enough. The same guy that wrote this came up with the Boys.
Where is your comic?
@@mw9688 What does that have to do with anything? I don't write comic books, which I doubt you do too. But I'm a published writer of other works and I know how to craft a story. So, I will continue to hold my opinion. If you don't like that, the beauty of an opinion is that it doesn't have to inform yours, meaning you can move on. Isn't that weird how those work!?
@@YoshihitoBLM A shame that your opinion is a smelly one.
@@mw9688 Maybe to you. But the fact that people agree with me speaks volumes. The writer of that particular series does seem to have a hate boner, lol. Anyways, good luck in your future trolling!
When writing an alternate reality, the idea is to keep everybody the same but change the events surrounding them. If The Punisher couldn't survive a day of the Imperfects invasion, what chances does he have of pulling this off?
15:09. Wolverine is sent into a deeper rage than he’d ever enter before.
Me: And that’s really saying something!!
So Punisher is like max Payne but more brutal and more ruthless
Awesome story
But can we all just admit that this is almost equivalent to the amount of plot armor that batman has
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Equivalent? Not even close. Batman at least has a genius level intellect beyond most characters in DC, a billionaire with INSANE TECH and super skilled in all martial arts.. Batman killing everyone in DC or Marvel is more believable.
It is copletly, and while some killing could have been written better its not the point i guess, the goal is the journey and its conclusion not how he travel but why and where.
Its a spin off in the multivers so its fine. Many chars got some like that
@@thediaz07 most heroes have the ability to be the worst people duh that's why they're heroes. Frank on the other hand...
@@michaelhaysbert703 what? I'm saying batman has less plot armour.
At least 3 of these don't make any sense. If Captain America is able to see and react to bullets having one shot at him point blank shouldn't make a difference. Also Wolverine is basically fucking immortal as he can literally fully regenerate from a couple of cells after getting launched into the sun. Finally doctor doom could basically move his hand and he'd be dead.
Wolverine going to the sun will obviously kill him because all of his cells will be gone and the only thing that maybe remains is his skeleton. Also did you forget the vacuum of space will kill him. I mean Wolverine can't fly back to earth so yeah definitely death to him.
Also they have been many times where Wolverine's healing factor is not like Deadpool. So yeah I think Wolverine died before he got power up that they (Comicbook Creators) gave to him during the time when they published this comic book.
Also do you know that this place is not in the 616 universe so anything you know about the character from 616 to this universe does not count and plot armour is strong with the Punisher. So yeah screw the most of the knowledge that you learnt about the character from the 616 universe and enjoy the story because that is how I enjoy the Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe even though Deadpool should have been defeated from the many many heroes and their cosmic and powerful weapons but they didn't.
@@chikebosah5714 Launching him into space when have been a far more realistic way to kill him. Also Deadpool killing everyone is far more believable than Punisher. I'd almost compare it to the punisher being a Honda civic and the likes of doctor doom, wolverine or captain America being a Lamborghini Aventador and racing where the civic wins.
@@RiverFerret I am sorry for not finishing the video before I reply to your comment. But yes, Deadpool is more believable than Punisher but I still don't believe Deadpool even with his healing factor can really kill even though I watch the video about it without plot armour. I mean he killed Ghost Rider which is hard without holy weapons that I believe Deadpool did not have.
But still these are comic books where lower powerful but popular characters with graphic violence have supreme plot armour to kill the Marvel Universe.
@@chikebosah5714can you send the link? on where deadpool killed ghost rider wanna hear it tho, thanks.
8:07 Not gonna lie, I see this as Punisher's last heroic deed. Cause by killing Spider-man, he essentially saved him from a sight of horror and guilt by not being there sooner. It doesn't change the fact that he killed him in cold blood, but at least he's saving him from a nightmarish world. Mostly cause no one kills someone they truly respect and say "Because someone had to be first." and not mean it in some way, shape or form.
Moving thank you.. the quaver in your voice at the end helped make it.. next time leave a longer pause before the happy go lucky sign off to let us absorb the moment
How did he manage to kill hulk and wolverine? Surely banner would of turned to hulk and Logan would of regenerated
If the punisher gets a reboot and this comic gets out into the show. It would be insane
I actually read that 😂 back then I was so surprised. He killed wolverine with electricity. Kill hulk by stopping him from transforming.
But that's the thing. He can't stop Bruce from turning. Bruce shot himself in the head and still transformed and hulk spit the bullet out. You can't kill hulk by shooting Bruce. It doesn't work and has been done. Also the wolverine part. The dude survived a fucking nuke yet some electricity takes him out?
@@styxx5613 he killed him before he turned into the Hulk. The hardest one to pull of was Spider-Man because he could sense killing intent or harmful through his spidey senses. He apparently had to snipe him from some distance while he was busy fighting someone else. To me that was the most calculated hit I seen from punisher. The wolverine kill was even more sus as he just lured him into attacking him next to some power line that happened to have interconnected to the other power grids. This whole vendetta story was insane.
@@luigisaintil413 if banner dies hulk is stil alive
John berthal did a amazing job bringing out frank castle! Just like everyone saying noone c ould do iron man as well as robert same for john. I watched a interview with john saying he felt bad for his family because he would stay in role even when he was home. Thats dedication to not screw up his role
Hulk would not die like that, Bruce tried gun bs alone and Hulk just spit it out.
Logan killed with his own claw? Do i even need to say more...
Can we just talk about how sad Spider-Man's death was, he was trying to stop venom to having a gun pointed at his head and his last words being, why me...😢
The only problem with this theory is that the Hulk tried to kill themselves numerous times,and a single bullet wouldn't do anything, so this is poor writing.
The Punisher's fanboys are legion, so its all fine.
If you think collateral damage is unforgivable then normal humans would just die by the threat anyway.
That's why he kills both the threat and those who claim to " repel " the threat lol
@@manoeleduardoaraujofilho782 so what if the heroes didnt come and the aliens killed his family anyway? He would kill them because they didnt act? All in all Punisher is neither a hero nor a good guy.
@@espernova228 Never said he was either. Given the ending, Frank himself doesn't believe him to be one. But i'll be damned if i can't understand his motivations. No one gives a fuck about collateral damage until it happens to someone they care or love, specially if it doesn't seem like an " accident ". Like, who cares that your family died if the heroes saved the city, probably for the third time this month? And let's be honest, Cyclops going " Hey bro, was that your family? Oopsie poopsie, my bad 😊 " feels like this is not the first time he incinerates a bunch of innocents " by accident " and now he's just numb to it. What Frank actually heard there was among the line of " Yeah, people always die on these crossfires, but no one cares since i saved the city, so why should i? You'll mourn them, then you'll forget them and the world keeps spinning, get over it ".
It's like Murdock says at the end " there's always people behind the masks " and there's also a lot of people behind every building the Hulk or Thor get thrown at. Will they feel that or will they just brush it off because it's in their line of duty/higher calling as a super hero?
Its hilarious how whenever someone dies thats just a civilian, its collateral damage, yet if someone a superhero loves dies, everyone laps up the vengeance arc.
"Sending a bullet exploding from his chamber directly into Captain America's start spangled skull" Lmaooo idk why but that line has me dead 💀