I have a McLane edger that my grandpa gave to my dad and when my dad passed away I inherited it. I've been buying parts off of eBay to get it running again. I really enjoyed seeing an edger like mine running. Thanks!
I too was a B&S Service/Sales Dealer back in the 70'-80's when these Magnetron Ignition's came out. Aftermarket makers and even Briggs offered conversion kits for these engines to change them over to solid state , as you said. They were a godsend. I still have a 2 HP Briggs engine in near perfect condition here in my shop. It was used to power a little 1/3 yard cement mixer, but I had switched it over to electric motor drive. So what I'm trying to say is that you're bringing back memories to me on these, ROADKING; these videos are interesting.
Seem's like a hundred years ago now ROADKING,...but yes, I guess this is why I like your channel. You're near my age , retired, and a 'mechanical nut' too, like me! So it's always a great and interesting passtime to watch the projects being brought to 'life' by you, Mike and the guys. Cheers brother!
I just fixed up a shroud today on a little two-stroke generator that I was fixing Mustie1 style. Some knucklehead had packed the entire pull cord mechanism with heavy grease. Ended up soaking it clean with the old two-stroke I took out of the gas tank. I have a custom built go-cart from my grandpa with a Briggs on it that must be from around that time period. Only difference is, instead of that modern flip choke, it had a slider in the end where yours has a plug. Cheers!
RoadKing, been watching your shop videos awhile now so I just wanted to say I seem to learn something new nearly every episode. Sometimes it is something completely new I learn and other times it’s just an easier way to do something I hadn’t thought of until I see you do it. Or I discovered a tool I never knew existed. Your videos are always interesting and and informative. Thanks you.
Back in the 80s my father had a chain saw sales franchise and small engine shop. I spent my summers using those tools to change bent flywheel keys on lawn mowers after folks hit rocks and pipes in their yards. Used to get $7 a pop to change them. Then sharpen the blade for another $3.That was my weekend mad money!
Good stuff! You’re always doing things the right way and showing us younger guys what to do (and not to do) to get these old engines running again. Thanks!
i had one of those engines back in 1972 i put it on my baby stroller . it was working good till i dropped my bottle on the throttle and twisted the frame of my baby buggy ahhhh good memories . god bless big buddy
LOL can't believe you were up at 1:00am I haven't been up that late in years including new years eve. I remember those engines thats back when I was tinkering on them. Back in there day those 3hp engines ran good a couple of buddies had them on mini bikes and they were pretty fast or so we thought. Have a great day. God Bless!!!
I still use my old standby(s) for starter and flywheel removal - old rounded off flathead screwdriver and small hammer to loosen the starter and a nice flat piece of oak and a larger hammer to pop the flywheel loose. Never broke a tab with the screwdriver and never had to file anything on the crank once I started using the oak as a buffer. Of course, if you've got the tools... :) Keep the vids coming! Damn fine educational channel.
These are my favourite motors. I cut my teeth on them too. A gent by the name of George Durivage gave me a bunch of the tools you used here. What a nice guy.
Very similar condition to when I got mine Mate. Didn't have those tools or spares, hence locking the recoil and using a drill. Just a new diaphragm and it does now run......despite me spending over 3 months trying to stop it lol.
I have an aluminum deck mower that had a white 1985 motor too. I could get that motor to run almost as slow as a hit n miss and still cut the grass, but it finally gave up the ghost and I replaced it with a modern engine (without a throttle cable.) Thanks Roadking.
It was a quick shot of the original blower cover, but I didn’t see the “extra” tabs used to hold the recoil in after it’s replaced and the old tabs get broken off. Good job.
I always assumed my 1981 3hp lawnmower was electronic ignition because my dad and I used it for over 25 years and never touched points. Then I got it from him and finally found and replaced the original points after like 34 years. They were still in good condition even with tons of hours on them.
I was wondering if you could have removed the gas cap with Cannon Plug Pliers without damaging the cap. Awesome tools you showed. Never seen them before.
I made a homemade tool for those clutches myself. I have bins and a pile outside of scrap metal and it gives me another project to do with my kids. My youngest daughter was welding laying a good bead by 7.
My first mower had a 3HP Briggs that my grandpa garbage picked. Welded the frame. Cleaned it up and painted it new wheels. That mower cut a many of yards making me money. Used a little oil and you didn't shut if off to take a break cause you played hell getting it to start hot lol
Have seen several starter clutches with pipe wrench tracks on them so must not need no stinkin special wrench. :-) A very elderly neighbor once gave to me his old riding mower which would only run wide open and I mean WIDE OPEN. The two screws and throttle plate were AWOL. I found the plate lodged against the intake valve and evidence the two screws had a dance party in the cylinder with a hasty exit out the exhaust. Replaced the throttle plate and screws but the engine had a deep knock which sounded like the rod bearing because of SEVERE high RPMs. Gave it to another neighbor with a complete explanation of the condition.
These small engines seem to know that in your healing hands that they are about to be cared for and brought back to there former glory so that parts like the recoil seem to fix themselves.
805ROADKING I found a pack of 5 on ebay last year for just a few dollers. My engine is a 4hp briggs 100902 and the choke plate and shaft is 390076 if this helps any.
Thanks alot Al!! That's a little different and it probably would have worked because I only need the plate, but that led me to the right one!! Mine is part# 397134!!☺
I've got a 130202-0366-99(I think, memory is fuzzy on that one) 5hp alu head briggs(one with EZspin written all over it when pull start was a feature instead of cup) from 75ish with that deep tank, is it common for the gas in em to heat up? also, damn that thing has seen some water, my 75 was outside at a scrap yard with a broken conrod when I saved it and it doesn't have anywhere near that rust
Damn that looks like a pretty nasty one. As far as the plastic recoil wheel I had a Mclane reel mower from 1977 and it had a plastic wheel, which I had to replace. My 1965 3HP wind up start engine and 1966 2HP Briggs on my edger are metal though. Until I got that edger I wasn't ever aware that they used to be made of metal.
Hello im just a young MST i have a few of these. Motors on my reel mower an it now running an ive done carb diaphraphm kit an cleaned the carb, also put new governor spring an a wee tune play an, the rpm kicks in way too fast an i cant seem too ajust it down, when i do it seems im playing with the fuel/air mixture , cause at low point it will not idle. An die, sorry ive looked at 20+ videos too see your / others governor systems for tips, do you have any ideas? Thank you , i have a passion collecting dead vitange B&S early made engines
That is a perfect example to the younger viewers why plastic sucks. It is the reason late model cars will never stand up to 50 years of decay like classic cars do.
805ROADKING I have a 3hp on a old edger I got it for $15 it runs great and doesn't smoke but I drained the oil and there was alot of metal in the oil and it was low when I got it what do you think about it should it be ok? What's your thoughts
Here's a tip for ya, take some hot glue and glue the inside of the pliers. wait for it to cool and then use them, the glue acts like a cushion and helps it not mar up the object your trying to take off. Second i would have used brake cleaner to loosen up the cap. :)
That’s the original carb it was most likely off of a small tiller thoughs Style carbs are simple to fix But can often times not run the same as they did when they were new one to repair them for some reason
hey 805roadking long time viewer what if you set the gap on the magnets and still got no spark? do you have a video showing that process? thanks in advance. keep up the great content!!!!!
How to I get spark I have a 1987 model on a power hoist and it doesn’t have spark not familiar with it at all and I’m not really sure where to start if someone can help I’d appreciate it
Wow, I've never seen those tools for getting the flywheel nut off. Even some local shops just use a screwdriver and hammer. And a piece of cardboard works just fine for adjusting the coil
Yeah there tough little engines!! You don't even have to adjust the coil, they will run with the coil pulled back as far as it goes!! I just like doing things right!!☺
I have a McLane edger that my grandpa gave to my dad and when my dad passed away I inherited it. I've been buying parts off of eBay to get it running again. I really enjoyed seeing an edger like mine running. Thanks!
I too was a B&S Service/Sales Dealer back in the 70'-80's when these Magnetron Ignition's came out. Aftermarket makers and even Briggs offered conversion kits for these engines to change them over to solid state , as you said. They were a godsend.
I still have a 2 HP Briggs engine in near perfect condition here in my shop. It was used to power a little 1/3 yard cement mixer, but I had switched it over to electric motor drive.
So what I'm trying to say is that you're bringing back memories to me on these, ROADKING; these videos are interesting.
You're full of surprises Reg!! I don't think you ever mentioned being a B&S Dealer!! That's pretty cool!!☺
Seem's like a hundred years ago now ROADKING,...but yes, I guess this is why I like your channel. You're near my age , retired, and a 'mechanical nut' too, like me!
So it's always a great and interesting passtime to watch the projects being brought to 'life' by you, Mike and the guys.
Cheers brother!
I just fixed up a shroud today on a little two-stroke generator that I was fixing Mustie1 style. Some knucklehead had packed the entire pull cord mechanism with heavy grease. Ended up soaking it clean with the old two-stroke I took out of the gas tank.
I have a custom built go-cart from my grandpa with a Briggs on it that must be from around that time period. Only difference is, instead of that modern flip choke, it had a slider in the end where yours has a plug.
Cheers!
I like the slide choke much better than the flipper style!!☺
RoadKing, been watching your shop videos awhile now so I just wanted to say I seem to learn something new nearly every episode. Sometimes it is something completely new I learn and other times it’s just an easier way to do something I hadn’t thought of until I see you do it. Or I discovered a tool I never knew existed. Your videos are always interesting and and informative. Thanks you.
Thanks for the kind words Mike!! I appreciate you watching!!☺
Back in the 80s my father had a chain saw sales franchise and small engine shop. I spent my summers using those tools to change bent flywheel keys on lawn mowers after folks hit rocks and pipes in their yards. Used to get $7 a pop to change them. Then sharpen the blade for another $3.That was my weekend mad money!
That was pretty good $ for the 80's!!☺
Good stuff! You’re always doing things the right way and showing us younger guys what to do (and not to do) to get these old engines running again. Thanks!
Thanks alot Bud!! I'm glad to pass it on those that want to learn!!☺
i had one of those engines back in 1972 i put it on my baby stroller . it was working good till i dropped my bottle on the throttle and twisted the frame of my baby buggy ahhhh good memories . god bless big buddy
You must have been the terror of MI with that thing eh!!☺
LOL can't believe you were up at 1:00am I haven't been up that late in years including new years eve. I remember those engines thats back when I was tinkering on them. Back in there day those 3hp engines ran good a couple of buddies had them on mini bikes and they were pretty fast or so we thought. Have a great day. God Bless!!!
Thanks Bob!! I've always like working late at night, less interruptions and people bothering me!!☺
Those were popular engines for mini bikes and go carts back in the day. Never seen those flywheel tools before , Thanks for showing them.
Yeah I think we all cut our teeth on those 3 HP Briggs!! Thanks for watching Bud!!☺
Thanks The introduction to plastic components to B&G was much earlier than I imagined All The Best G
I still use my old standby(s) for starter and flywheel removal - old rounded off flathead screwdriver and small hammer to loosen the starter and a nice flat piece of oak and a larger hammer to pop the flywheel loose. Never broke a tab with the screwdriver and never had to file anything on the crank once I started using the oak as a buffer. Of course, if you've got the tools... :)
Keep the vids coming! Damn fine educational channel.
Thanks Bud!!☺
Love small engines of all kinds. Thank you
You just got to love those old specialty tools.
Got to love those 70s and 80s briggs Stratton worked on many of these in my go cart mini bike days
Yeah Buddy!! Most of us cut our teeth on them!!☺
These are my favourite motors. I cut my teeth on them too. A gent by the name of George Durivage gave me a bunch of the tools you used here. What a nice guy.
Ol' George knew they were going to the right person!!☺
Very similar condition to when I got mine Mate. Didn't have those tools or spares, hence locking the recoil and using a drill. Just a new diaphragm and it does now run......despite me spending over 3 months trying to stop it lol.
I have one of these in My collection due to to Magnetron ignition fully restored . Keep em running Roadking .
Thanks Bud!!☺
I have an aluminum deck mower that had a white 1985 motor too. I could get that motor to run almost as slow as a hit n miss and still cut the grass, but it finally gave up the ghost and I replaced it with a modern engine (without a throttle cable.) Thanks Roadking.
That's what I like about those little 5S motors we use, you can get the idle down to about 200 RPM!!☺
Hola enhorabuena gran videos. Alomejor ya as contestado a pregunta que tengo duds pero no encuentro. ¿ Que modelo es el que aparece?
It was a quick shot of the original blower cover, but I didn’t see the “extra” tabs used to hold the recoil in after it’s replaced and the old tabs get broken off. Good job.
Thanks Jim!! Yeah they were there, You'll get a better look at it in part 3 when we clean up the housing and replace the cord!!☺
I know you were looking forward to a quick flip on this Briggs, but now I’m looking forward to a series on it!
Seems like there is no such thing as a quick flip for Me!! We'll try to make an interesting little series though!!☺
Keep up the good work and I finaly got my old 65 deere 110 rf running
Thanks Bud!!☺
That spark was surprising. Good idea RK in turning this into a " do and not to do series."
Thanks Carl!! We try to keep it interesting!!☺
I always assumed my 1981 3hp lawnmower was electronic ignition because my dad and I used it for over 25 years and never touched points. Then I got it from him and finally found and replaced the original points after like 34 years. They were still in good condition even with tons of hours on them.
I was wondering if you could have removed the gas cap with Cannon Plug Pliers without damaging the cap. Awesome tools you showed. Never seen them before.
Yeah Cannon Plugs would have worked better than anything I had!! That cap was rusted in place, I never came across one rusted that bad!!☺
I made a homemade tool for those clutches myself. I have bins and a pile outside of scrap metal and it gives me another project to do with my kids. My youngest daughter was welding laying a good bead by 7.
My first mower had a 3HP Briggs that my grandpa garbage picked. Welded the frame. Cleaned it up and painted it new wheels. That mower cut a many of yards making me money. Used a little oil and you didn't shut if off to take a break cause you played hell getting it to start hot lol
These engines are my favorite
Have seen several starter clutches with pipe wrench tracks on them so must not need no stinkin special wrench. :-)
A very elderly neighbor once gave to me his old riding mower which would only run wide open and I mean WIDE OPEN. The two screws and throttle plate were AWOL. I found the plate lodged against the intake valve and evidence the two screws had a dance party in the cylinder with a hasty exit out the exhaust. Replaced the throttle plate and screws but the engine had a deep knock which sounded like the rod bearing because of SEVERE high RPMs. Gave it to another neighbor with a complete explanation of the condition.
Lol!! Funny story!!☺
Nice special tools and then the clutch started working...pretty cool.
Yeah we clean that clutch up in the next episode, it's better than new!!☺
These small engines seem to know that in your healing hands that they are about to be cared for and brought back to there former glory so that parts like the recoil seem to fix themselves.
Lol!! It was a Miracle!!☺
Small engine archeology 101. Good one EJ.
This one is a real pain!! I gotta stick to the older stuff!!☺
Those plastic choke plates are easy. Just pull the shaft out and the plate comes right out.
Yeah they are easy to take apart, not so easy to find a replacement part!!☺
805ROADKING I found a pack of 5 on ebay last year for just a few dollers. My engine is a 4hp briggs 100902 and the choke plate and shaft is 390076 if this helps any.
Thanks alot Al!! That's a little different and it probably would have worked because I only need the plate, but that led me to the right one!! Mine is part# 397134!!☺
805ROADKING check out eReplacementParts.com. their prices are too high but it's a great place to get item numbers from.
I've got a 130202-0366-99(I think, memory is fuzzy on that one) 5hp alu head briggs(one with EZspin written all over it when pull start was a feature instead of cup) from 75ish with that deep tank, is it common for the gas in em to heat up?
also, damn that thing has seen some water, my 75 was outside at a scrap yard with a broken conrod when I saved it and it doesn't have anywhere near that rust
Don't know about the hot fuel, that big muffler on top of the tank don't help eh!!☺
I later found I had put in the second ring in upside down, and pumped most of its oil out, overheated it and thats why the fuel was hot
I’ve been wondering what tools were available for removing the flywheel.
me too i want to know where to buy them and what there called i cant find them anywhere
That flywheel tool is certainly a handy gadget to have
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
Damn that looks like a pretty nasty one. As far as the plastic recoil wheel I had a Mclane reel mower from 1977 and it had a plastic wheel, which I had to replace. My 1965 3HP wind up start engine and 1966 2HP Briggs on my edger are metal though. Until I got that edger I wasn't ever aware that they used to be made of metal.
I'll have to clean the paint off that old housing and check the year!! You got me curious now!!☺
Any clue where i can source that rubber breather tube elbow?
Hello im just a young MST i have a few of these. Motors on my reel mower an it now running an ive done carb diaphraphm kit an cleaned the carb, also put new governor spring an a wee tune play an, the rpm kicks in way too fast an i cant seem too ajust it down, when i do it seems im playing with the fuel/air mixture , cause at low point it will not idle. An die, sorry ive looked at 20+ videos too see your / others governor systems for tips, do you have any ideas? Thank you , i have a passion collecting dead vitange B&S early made engines
That is a perfect example to the younger viewers why plastic sucks. It is the reason late model cars will never stand up to 50 years of decay like classic cars do.
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
805ROADKING I have a 3hp on a old edger I got it for $15 it runs great and doesn't smoke but I drained the oil and there was alot of metal in the oil and it was low when I got it what do you think about it should it be ok? What's your thoughts
Here's a tip for ya, take some hot glue and glue the inside of the pliers. wait for it to cool and then use them, the glue acts like a cushion and helps it not mar up the object your trying to take off. Second i would have used brake cleaner to loosen up the cap. :)
Good tip!!
Some great history and tips
Thanks Joe!!☺
How do you tell what year an engine is from the code on the blower housing?
I have a 1969 Briggs 3hp as a restoration project it even has a ball bearing crank
Sounds like a heavy duty industrial model!!☺
How much ?
Interesting video buddy..I love to tinker with engines myself
Thanks Bud!!☺
That’s the original carb it was most likely off of a small tiller thoughs Style carbs are simple to fix But can often times not run the same as they did when they were new one to repair them for some reason
hey 805roadking
long time viewer
what if you set the gap on the magnets and still got no spark?
do you have a video showing that process?
thanks in advance.
keep up the great content!!!!!
Could be a hundred things!! Make sure your points are clean and gapped correctly and your condenser is good!!☺
I have that clutch tool, never knew what it was for till now
What kinda expoy did I use
What is "airocoil"? Newk from Kentucky
Aerokroil....It's one of the better Penetrating oils used by most Professionals!! It's expensive, but well worth it!!☺
How to I get spark I have a 1987 model on a power hoist and it doesn’t have spark not familiar with it at all and I’m not really sure where to start if someone can help I’d appreciate it
.Thanks for the Video. Love my briggs
Thanks for watching Bud!!☺
I'm kinda glad it's not ready for the show. No disrespect but I love ur vids!
Thanks Mel!! Me too, it will make an interesting little series!!☺
Wow, I've never seen those tools for getting the flywheel nut off. Even some local shops just use a screwdriver and hammer. And a piece of cardboard works just fine for adjusting the coil
Yeah there tough little engines!! You don't even have to adjust the coil, they will run with the coil pulled back as far as it goes!! I just like doing things right!!☺
Love the channel roadking!
Thanks alot Bud!!☺
I have one from 1990. Always starts very easily
I didn't know that you messed about with new engines too!
Nah not if I can help it!! This was thrown in with a package deal!!☺
Nice specialty tools
Is it weird or coincidence, you and Zippo posted a vid about the same engine, on the same day?!
Probably just coincidence, They only made about 50 Billion of those 3 HP's!!☺
805ROADKING well, I know that, lol. Just funny two famous tubers posting the same engine, same story, same day.
1 a.m.????? ,that had a rough life considering its age
I have a 1978 Briggs and Stratton and it has a plastic recoil.
channel locks no we always called them water pump pliers
David Gaylord ... Channel Lock is a brand name.
They had plastic in them shrouds even back in the 82 models.
Wow that looks really old to be a 1985 engine,problably lefted outside for many years.
Sure is Rusty and Crusty !!!...I will bet that it will be running soon
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
that was a good find
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
Seems familiar, did you ever have one before on the show? Weird. I'm having a deja vu moment with it. :)
That aside, she's a dusty devil...
Nah I don't remember working on one of these!!☺
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A couple of bucks you can get 40 for it if the right person like it I have 5 3 HP Briggs
I just got one just like yours same, yr in nice condition paid$7 us dollars lol
nearly got a heartattack at 6:22
I like it!
Looks like that old girl has had some abuse in the past, I cant wait to see her running again.
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
Your voice sound a little like Elvis
im trowing all my old motors out. 60s 70s and 80s just dont have a use for them
I have a mini bike streaker manco original
Nuffa this!
think you should get some t shirts and mugs made, with enough of this on and magic hammer
I thought about T's with "Nuff a Dis", but not the Magic Hammer, I like that!!☺
She's crusty eh
Yeah Buddy!! ☺