VINTAGE BRIGGS & STRATTON - CAN WE SAVE IT?
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2023
- This old Briggs and Stratton engine needs some engine servicing work, new parts to be machined and an engine overhaul. I cover the process step by step so you can repair your engines at home!
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20:40 that is the coolest thing I have seen this week. Machining that tip was genius.
Thanks :) I’m pleased with the result!
That WAS cool. I was mostly listening in my shop, working on the carb., muffler, and start rope assembly, on a newest(1980) of vintage Canadian made XL Automatic chain saw.
I will have to watch again, as the carb. had a bent needle. I made it straight though. The bend was from being hit or dropped, so the inside was still fine. My older saws though, need parts no longer available, so this is a good solution.
That sounds like a homelite XL automatic I used to have one of those, they were great saws. And they had good torque to them also
I love working on those small engines and they sound great, when they are running correctly. I once built a three wheeled go-cart and I had a 3horse powered Briggs and Stratton engine on it and it ran like a top. And I got it to start on a half of a pull with the pull-rope starter. And the idle was down low enough to count the time's that the piston came up. It was barely running. Love your videos and thank you
That’s awesome :) thanks for sharing!
It’s really nice to see a young man that knows what he is doing. I have been trying to figure out how the governor spring and linkage were supposed to be set up. This was a great help. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words, glad the video helped :)
Funny, I'm working on a 2hp and I needed to see the same thing
I have always used a business card for the gap between the coil and the flywheel. It's about 30,000 gap? And it works Everytime. And it's flexible also. Rotate the magnet side of the flywheel directly under the coil and insert the cardboard business card and,then loosen the screws that mount the coil, and the magnet draws down the pickup coil. Then tighten the coil mount screws and rotate the flywheel until the business card comes out and you will have a gap. Easy that was a trick i was taught years ago back when I was 13 years old and starting out working on small engines. Im in my 60's now and it has never failed me yet?
Yes you can, I prefer to use a gauge as I work on so many engines it just makes sense :)
I also appreciate the response to the comments and the advice that you give? It is greatly appreciated
You’re very welcome! Thanks for watching :)
Great video, I have the exact motor to work. You gave us the confidence to try to repair it.
That’s awesome! Pleased to hear it :)
same here. Have the pull start issue and seems like the carb needs some love.
Is it squeeling? It’s very common. The starter mechanism needs to be cleaned as well as the crankshaft it slides on. A light coat of oil on the wick at the end of the starter too. Secondly, the balls need to be cleaned and replaced without any oil. Hope this helps!
Great video, I mentioned elsewhere that I'm working on a 2hp but I got a lot of useful information out of your video. Keep it up, you're doing great and it's well appreciated
Thank you! I appreciate it :)
Great job straightening that link. The engine really runs good.
Thank you!
Great video Tom, and really helpful information for anyone with engines like this 👍
Thanks Nev! :) much appreciated buddy
First time seeing one of your videos. Very impressed with the camera work, editing, video quality and knowledge! Well done sir. I have no doubt your channel will really take off soon.
Thank you!! :) I really appreciate it!
Nice bit of machine work I mean chucking that up and truing it up that was brilliant 👍👍👍 Can't ask for better man !!!
Thanks Bill :) I appreciate the kind words!
Awesome Tom. Love the custom fabricated main jet. Pretty cool.
Thanks Patrick! I’m pleased It worked so well :)
Great job Tom. Love the fact that you repair rather than replace
Thanks for watching Al :) glad you enjoy my content!
Awesome , I found one of those jem mots ,with the water pump attachments, of the grid living, has been made a bit more accessible, to your persistent to get it work tk y very much
Thanks for the kind words!
I liked it very much I’m working on an older model Briggs very helpful thank you
awesome, they’re great machines!
Legendary, Brilliant to see skill at work, greetings from Australia
Thank you! :)
Lovin your videos keep ‘em coming
Thank you :)
Well done Tom very clear and good video angles on this one with top quality audio. You keep getting better with every video produced keep er going eh!
Thank you Wayne, that’s much appreciated :)
Awesome bit of 3hp CSI 😁 it's difficult to determine what linkages should look like from the exploded dwgs.
Edit: you demonstrated the primary reason I want a drill press in my little shop. I used to turn brass into pipes when I was in college, using only the drill press in the scene shop 😁
Hahah thanks Stella :) yes it’s very useful!! I’d love a mini metal lathe, but that won’t happen any time soon, the drill press will have to do 😂
@@VintageEngineRepairsyou can get a functional mini lathe pretty cheap, I bought a Sherline probably 20+ years ago for around $400 with all the tooling I needed, even the cheap Chinese ones are tight enough for turning small parts like what you're doing. I'm working on a 2hp horizontal shaft Briggs with the vacu-jet carb and it also had no spark but I hogged out the holes on a Honda coil and it gives great spark. I'm not advocating for it, I am impatient and I work with what I have on hand, but it worked and now the points compartment is sealed up and I don't have to bother with it anymore. I really just needed to see where the governor linkage went and you helped me right off with that, thank you
I now have one haha :) it’s been fantastic!
27:20 that sound of the 2-3 HP Briggs is one of the nicest sounds in the small engine world.
Haha thanks and thanks for the comments :) hopefully you caught my reply about the hammer on the crank shaft!
@@VintageEngineRepairsexcellent point on the brass hammer. I need to get one. I did mine recently with a block of wood and a regular hammer.
Cheerios and a chap chap my good fellow, you're video helped me greatly many thanks.
Hahah you’re welcome.
That's what I would do? replace everything that doesn't look like it is not a genuine Briggs and Stratton engine part? And I liked how you tried to rebuild the needle jet. That was classic! I would like to see you rebuild my 20 horse power Kohler engine? I'm not sure if I want to take it on? Even though I have enough experience to do it? My thing is climbing trees and I have gotten away from most engine work. Having ADHD, I would have to have extreme concentration? Not to miss anything? Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching and commenting :) I have too many projects on at the moment to take another 🤣👍
2:57 my first thought was "points". It's always dirty points on these, because well, there aren't too many spots for the PulsaJet to (totally) fail, although I guess the owner found one! I really like these horizontal Briggses. Brilliant save mate!
Thanks mate :) much appreciated!
Im currently restoring one these on a moto mower snow blower but i'm doing the coil upgrade to do away with the points and condenser
Yeah they’re very reliable ! Enjoy 👍👍
Nice job, and nice Dawn vice. And there's your dinner.. woooooooo weeeeeeeee
Thanks! :) gota love Taryl and gang!!
Had Briggs but went with Honda... worth the extra money.
Honda are some of the finest small engines you can buy. I do like these Briggs for their agricultural simplicity, reliability, and affordability, but as far as smooth running longevity and reliability, Honda is up there with the best - you do pay for it though.
Nice job Tom I've got a part two with one of these gorgeous girls
I look forward to seeing it Rob :) thanks for watching!
Great video, I have one of these and a little newer version but Ive never been able to get a new diaphragm for them. When I asked at the local agent he looked at me like I was mad to think I could be a new one for a motor over 20 years old. Maybe thats not the case in the US but sure is here in New Zealand unfortunately, might have to try ebay but I dont know the exact part numbers and most stuff is Chinese from what I can see.
Yes they’re readily available :) google “Briggs and Stratton service manual look up” and then select the link to Briggs and Stratton website. From there it asks for some numbers for your model type and code. These are found on the side of your fan cover. When you type these in, it will give you the manuals you’re after to find the right diaphragm :)
Great info thanks
You’re welcome!
I don't know that the length of the throttle linkage, is important enough that you would not want to thin and stretch the metal hammering it. Probably not enough to matter, but making it weaker and more brittle may. If you wanted to, you could get a bit of brass to set on your anvil, and use a brass hammer. This way you straighten with much less denting/thinning/stretching and case hardening of the steel. You could also heat it some and straighten with very gentle hammering, but then you will dent it. If the metal seems brittle after hammering, you can heat it and let it cool slowly, to anneal, soften.
Just some thoughts as I was watching you hammer :-)
Should have watched further what?
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I have one of these engines on an old cultivator. Looks like a tiller but is useless as one. I have it in storage but I know the engine is good. I put a diaphragm in it....ah....could be at least 15 years ago lol Anyway it ran then. Everything needs cleaning now. I haven't had a good use for a 3HP. 5 yes. 12 yes. I have two very old 5HP engines, one on my tiller which is older, and runs very well, and the original tiller's engine, still needing some parts, but actually in better condition than its' current replacement. You have to pay a lot these days to get a well made engine like these. Now if they would just make replacement gaskets of Teflon or something that can tolerate alcohol in the fuel....or stop putting alcohol in the damn fuel! They are deliberately ruining our carbs./engines IMO.
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There are Teflon diaphragms for the fuel pump section of carbs, but not for the metering diaphragms, for lawn mowers, or those older 3-5HP carbs.. The rubber just does not like alcohol. I am putting the Teflon ones in my vintage chainsaws from now on.
Very thorough Tom, Love the clear closeups! Good job!
Thanks Kenny! I hope you enjoy the second half of the video too!
Love the Vertical lathe! Nice recovery Tom, sounds sweet!
@@KensSmallEngineRepair thanks Kenny!!
17:40 is why you'll do well on UA-cam.
There are too many people who advise to replace perfectly serviceable parts, often with inferior quality ones, just because they don't know what they're doing past basic servicing or don't know how to fix/maintain those parts.
You're absolutely the best mechanic I've watched and that's saying something.
Keep up the good work mate.
Nice one!!
Whereabouts are you based?
If i ever get something i can't sort out, id love to be able to bring it to you with a couple of beers in thanks for the videos.
Taryl is great, as is steves saloon.
There aren't many others id watch as they either like the sound of their own voice or they're just parts changers.
There's a couple of saw tuners worth watching but they can be hard work at times, despite their knowledge.
Thanks again fella.
There's a lovely looking myford ml6 for sale very cheap near me.
Looks like you could make use of it!!
Thanks for such a kind and considered comment mate, it’s much appreciate!! Means a lot to hear it. I do understand in some cases it’s either cheaper or easier to replace parts, but I have always been interested in repairing and seeing what fixes I can do myself, when necessary. That’s where the real fun is for me :)
Thanks once again! :)
I bet it’s a beautiful machine!! I have a small Chinese built one. Nothing special, but it’s been absolutely fantastic for engine repairs :) making parts that are no longer available! I’m in Perth WA, Australia!
@@VintageEngineRepairs ah sweet as!!
Im down south but come up to the big smoke occasionally.
How do I track you down if i need your services?
Ah awesome, that’s good :) best to email me and I can forward my details to you! Tomscandian@hotmail.com
"and there's your dinner"
Ha! Love Taryl and gang!
Great vid the machining was very cool. Btw Tom who is your go to for briggs parts. I am also in Perth and found green acres on line store pretty good, however I have not had to purchase serious hardware
Thanks, I typically go to my local stihl dealer, but there is a shop opposite the stihl dealer in Osbourne park who has all the parts you need, on the shelf, but he’s not cheap!!
Hi had the same engine on cemetery grave pump night mare 2 start just before a funeral regards
Thanks for watching and sharing :) These engines should start easily if they are looked after, probably the easiest starting machine in my opinion
Love it!!!
Thanks!
Great job Tom Mate
Thanks Conker :)
Whoever played with it previously has used an ebay carby kit. I've purchased a few of them, the jets have never worked, I usually just use the o-rings etc and retain the original jet. The gaskets and diaphragm's that come with the kits have worked well.
Ah how interesting! Thanks for letting me know, I’m glad I changed out the diaphragm - I try to avoid AM where possible :)
Don't know how I missed this the first time around watching. A few questions... Did you indeed replace that condenser with a new one? Also I didn't notice any mention of what looks like a goopy attempt to seal up where the wire goes to the condenser. That sure looks like where all the moisture is getting into the electrics of the ignition system.
I think I left it in the end as I couldn’t source one without huge expense. That goo is silicone from the factory to seal up the gap between the HT lead and the points cover :)
I’ve been watching u a while What procedure do u use when u first get a mower in that’s not working properly.
It all depends what is not working specifically. I’ll try and extract as much information from the owner if possible. If not I’ll have a look around the machine first, rotate the engine, look in the tank, check the oil, air filter, the blade. See if anything is missing, untoward or incorrect. See if it will start, if not I’ll bottle feed it and go from there depending on what I find.
Hi Tom, I could not see the carb adjustments you were making at top end? Is there 2 screws, idle and top?
I have a newer version of this engine 3.5 HP which is a pain to start, had new diaphragms etc but no joy, it will start on bottle fed from throat of carb but refuses on pull start with filter in place. Any pointers on what to look at please?
Hey, yep! It’s the idle adjustment at the top and the one below that is the main full supply. Turn that out 1/4 to 1/2, a turn and see how you go :)
Where to get coil\points\capacitor for old b&s 8 up motor?
Online :)
Got the exact same engine today some guy gave me a California lawn mower with the blades but it has a brig and Stratton 3hp mower hopefully I make it run
Nice :) they’re awesome machines!!
@@VintageEngineRepairsone question bro what was that tool u used to take the big thing out to get to the spark plug ima going to need that special tool it was the round socket
@@MyRcGoSlow hey mate have you got a time stamp?
@@VintageEngineRepairs3:39 thanks bro appreciate it
www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratton-19244-Starter-Replaces/dp/B005F6PYVO
So - where on line can someone find a repair/parts manual to download for this??
Briggs and Strattons own website, you just put in the model type and code 👍
Yes you can its old and built well i have the same type of motor but its a Briggs and Stratton 5 horsepower wood splitter. Trying to get it running after 20 years fog and stored it when we put it away. No spark but turns over fine
Clean the points :)
@@VintageEngineRepairs where do you get parts for these motors I am looking and it seems a lot of the newer stuff keeps coming up on line. Thanks again Kyle
Generally online :)
Alright mate I've got a tiller with a briggs engine. I took it apart and cleaned it up! Was running great but half way through the day it just lost power so every time you try and work with it it cuts out. Starts up again runs fine then under load just cuts out! The governor springs and throttle where never great and I would just replace the whole carb but I have no idea what parts I should be getting that will fit. It's a 111202 - 0157 - 01 - 81022601 so I am proper stumped! Rather get it going than fit a new engine on the tiller as I love the fact it's so old but does such a good job (when it works)
Hey mate! It’s so hard to say just off that information. It could be a whole heap of things. Without hearing, seeing and testing I can’t be much help sadly! You can send a video to my email of what it’s doing, try your best to get as clear of a video without shaky camera so I can really see and hear :) tomscandian@hotmail.com alternatively, even better, go to @kenssmallenginerepair at 2pm eastern states time tonight and join in the live video, a bunch of us get together and can help you trouble shoot it!
Is there a website to find Parts for these old motors I’m working on a 1966 huffy lawnmower with a 5 hp Briggs & Stratton
There isn’t that I know of here in Australia, but maybe in the USA! I just call around different shops :)
You'll get it going
Thanks Dennis :)
What is the model of this engine? i have the exact same one, looking for part numbers for the governor spring and the flapper gasket.
The codes you need are written on the side of the cowling (cover )
How small is the gap between the anvil and hammer?
0.02” / 0.5mm 👍👍
Hello! I live in the north part of Sweden and I bought yesterday a snow blower that has a Briggs&Stratton engine, it's a 5hp. Looks kinda the same like the one you have. I have a couple of issues. I cleaned the carburator, it was very messy and dirty. I checked the fuel tank and probably some water got inside at a point and I think it got a little rusted. I'm also missing the throttle cable, I can't seem to find it anywhere. Any advice would help!
Hey :) use some vinegar and soak the fuel tank to clean a fuel tank out, also regarding the throttle cables it’s just generic solid wire with a z-bend in it :) you can buy that wire at any mechanic shop! Best of luck, they’re awesome little engines!
@@VintageEngineRepairs thanks a lot for the reply and for the advices. Yeah, my personal opinion is that these engines can live forever if you take care of them properly. Cheers!
I’m surprised u don’t have way more subscribers than what u do. I mean u have a quality channel great content. I can see u becoming a big channel soon. Thanks 4 sharing
That’s really kind, thank you!
Great comitment to your work, where did you buy the parts may I ask
Thanks! From a shop in Perth city Australia :)
@@VintageEngineRepairs Really normally engines that old you have to buy from USA and its costly, my local Stihl dealer would be too lazy to research a part, I use Parts Tree in USA to get the diagram then go from there Taryl Fixes all always talks about the Parts Tree site thanks for your response though
Yeah this guy has all these old Briggs parts. Expect to sell your kidney to fund it though LOL
What were these engines primarily used for?
Any small machine really, lawn mower, rototillers, cement mixers, snow blowers
I have a question on flywheel removal. You used a hammer on the end of the crank. Is there a concern about mushrooming the end of the crank? I noticed you had a problem putting the starter clutch back on. Am I concerned about nothing?
Only ever use a brass hammer, or the correct knock off tool from Briggs, which is… a brass cover that you hit - same thing 🤣
You won’t mushroom hardened steel with a brass hammer.
The starter clutch was already stiff and had burrs from a lack of lubricant that should have been applied to the felt pad. The previous owner didn’t do this and that was the result. Word of caution, don’t hit a crankshaft that is threaded without a nut on the end even with a brass hammer, that can damage the threads!
@@VintageEngineRepairs this is an awesome video because it gives great detail on the remedy for common issues found on these 45 year old machines. Will a 2022 PowerMore be running in 2067? I doubt it. But this engine might still be running then, especially since you got rid of the points.
@@haneyoakie14 I’m a sucker for points - I like their simplicity, but electronic ignition is hard to dislike until they start putting electronic rev limiters in them!
@@VintageEngineRepairs to be honest, I was disappointed that you converted it to electronic ignition, especially after you did a great job on cleaning, diagnosing, fixing, and explaining the points ignition system. I think it is fun to retain the historical accuracy of the old equipment. I do think it depends on the end use of the equipment. If he wants to put it on his minibike and never have another ignition problem, the electronic ignition makes total sense. If it were the motor on a generator that sits for a long time and then gets called into critical use, the electronic ignition makes sense. If it is for fun and educational purposes, I love the points.
@@haneyoakie14 I understand and I’m the same, however they would have had to be brought from America which would take weeks and also be very expensive. Some decisions have to be made logically rather that from the heart right!
Cylinder mower? Is that the same as a reel mower?
Morning! 👍🍻
That’s right William :)
@@themowerman Got it. There was one of those rascals around when I was a kid but that was probably over sixty years ago and about the only thing I remember was being scared of it. Never heard of'em referred to as cylinder mowers but I don't get out much.🥴
I love small engines
Nice :) welcome to my page!
Poking a screwdriver through the flywheel fins to hold the crank was known as a hanging offence in our workshop !!
I live life on the edge 😏🤣👍
just out of interest whats a better method?
@@defenda1 The correct tool is called a flywheel holder. Far safer and smarter to use one than my hack method here.
I have same engine on scot bonner brigs and straton 45 she is still going
They’re awesome machines. Besides the thin rails on the SB, they’re my favourite cylinder mower. Nicest intermediate clutch pull, simple to work on and easy to adjust.
You're a surgeon. I got the same motor out of someone's trash. It will sit in my cargo trailer to push my bicycle. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words :)
Good job there Tom.Theres your dinner.
Thanks Pete :)
the way you're running it the dirt the flywheel magnet is going to be caked with iron sand .
Its all ok
Oh you limeys are a riot snd your kings english. A reel mower is a Cylinder mower 🤣. Makes perfect sense actually, learned a new one today. I have two Mclean cylinder mowers with these old briggs with pulse jets. The damn governmor spring is a pia. I converted mine to run on propane much easier than dealing with the carb and the propane keeps them clean inside, oil always looks perfect. Did the same with my riding mower. Got tired of dealing with the ethanol gas here. Now at least you can find non ethanol at various stations again.
Hey mate, yeah I call them both - cylinder and reel lol. That’s interesting! Do you have a video of them running on propane?? Thanks for sharing!
@@VintageEngineRepairs i just made the short propane conversion video.
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@@VintageEngineRepairs i just made the short propane conversion video.
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