25 Plot Holes In Harry Potter
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2020
- 25 plot mistakes in Harry Potter movies
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The Harry Potter series has been a wonderfully crafted world and story created by an expert storyteller. Rowling sets up plot points that are all wonderfully tied together at the end. It’s unique and magical and for many of us, enchanted and made up our childhoods. The problem is, we have gotten bitter with age, that’s why we are about to take a look at the less magical points in the series and nitpick all the tiny flaws, holes and contradictions that emerge throughout the books and movies.
We will find 25 different plot holes in Harry Potter and put them under the microscope, questioning if they are actually just down to error or if there is a hidden explanation around somewhere. From plot devices that are used once and never again, weird issues that emerge from certain pieces of magic and a number of high level magical contradictions. Get ready to apparate back to Hogwarts and the world of Harry Potter and get mad at us as we put it all under the microscope.
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Now, people are getting their hogwarts letters by E-mail
Whatever you do, don't mark it as spam.
So you are telling me the mail i got at 11 wasnt a scam?
At least then I don't need to see Hagrid breaking down the front door of my house.
shhhhh dont let the muggles know
I never thought about the hypocrisy of sending the magical letter to Harry in front of muggles to condemn him for performing magic in front of muggles. Well done!
They sent the letters to his home where they know the people present know about magic. Harry as an underage wizard, did magic without any supervision and could have been seen by any random muggle walking
They clearly specify that he performed magic in front of a muggle not muggleS. They were referencing Dudley
And then they keep flying dragons, dead horses, brooms and motorcycles all over London haha
IIRC: There are two types of port keys, one that travels at a pre-determined date and time, and one that travels whenever someone touches it.
Yeah, that’s how I see it. The portkey at the beginning of “Goblet of Fire“ was just lying around where any Muggle could touch it, so it was obviously charmed to only activate at a predetermined time, when its makers knew that wizards would be around to use it. Conversely, the portkey that Voldemort uses to trap Harry is on the grounds of Hogwarts, where there are no Muggles. Not that Voldemort would care: I’m sure, with his level of power, he would be able to create one that activated whenever it was touched by anyone.
I don’t think anyone ever said that Neville actually WITNESSED his parents being tortured into insanity. Even if he was there when it happened he would have been too young to remember.
Right? Aren't he and Harry about the same age? "Oh, Harry was too young to comprehend what was going on. But Longbottom straight up has crystal clear memory and gets PTSD 'cause why not??"
@@Cohult Neville doesn't have ptsd from his parents being tortured. He has it from being abused by Snape and being pushed too far by his pure blood fanatic grandma. Also he grows up and sees them in the looney bin.
But Harry does remember the killing of his parents when there are dementors. So Neville should do the same, also considering that his parents were tortured after Harry's had been killed. However, I agree that it was never mentioned that he actually witnessed the torturing.
It wouldn't matter if he remembers it or not. The dementors were after Harry because he actually had more then one soul - he had his own and a part of Voldemort's in him.
@@Cohult they were only a few weeks apart. It was more clear in the books that Neville actually fit the prophetic description of the Chosen One just as much as Harry did, and the only way they knew which one it was is because of the part that says "mark him as his equal".
He literally marked Harry, cementing him in the role.
Also the trace disappears after you turn seventeen. IT EXPLAINS THAT IN THE BOOK!!!
it’s explained in the movies as well :) i guess it just takes a certain amount of rewatches before you start picking up on the smallest details
The trace doesn't just pick up on an underage wizard casting magic. It also picks up on other wizards (even when they're not underage) casting magic around someone who has the trace on them. That is why harry got the letter from the ministry after dobby cast magic around him in the second book. Harry didn't do anything wrong, he didn't conjure magic or something and he was still punished because the ministry can't tell the difference.
Harry was still awake when quirrell was dying he fell unconscious after that.
What you say is true for the movie. In the book, Harry became unconscious first and then Quirrell died.
The elder wand respects basic wandlore AND power. the elder wand knew Dumbledore was dying and had no intention to live so it switched to Malfoy as he disarmed him and Harry being more magically powerful then Malfoy he won over the wand easily.
My question is though, draco never touched the elder wand, and never had control, how does the wand know that draco was disarmed by Harry at Malfoy manor when the wand was buried with Dumbledore?
Draco had control after disarming. Isn't that just the automatic assumption? They also mention wands act as if they have feelings. Ultimately, the wand chooses the wizard.
Well, Harry IS the Horcrucs so if he didn't die the Horcrucs is intact.
Well he died. But kinda soul returned back to body. Why he was only one able to respawn ? another hole i guess.
@@Dysputant I talked about the Chamber of Secrets, in Deadly Hallows he didn't die because he was the owner of the Elders Wand so Voldemort couldn't kill him with it.
@@sherlockowiec1693 that's not actually why harry survived the killing curse in the forbidden forest. It wasn't the ownership of the wand that saved him but the fact that voldemort took his blood to be resurrected. So as long as Voldy was alive he kept Harry alive too
Harry died, but was revived with the resurrection stone.
@@N7Sound It was clearly said that resurrection stone didn't actually resurrect people if I'm correct.
Either way it's not true because he didn't actually die, just read all above, because all apply.
#12 is wrong. Hermione said she's never altered memories because she's never actually altered memories. In her parents' case she didn't alter their memories. She removed them. There's a difference, albeit not a very big one
Well, She definitely had to alter the memories, because if if she just removed the memories they'd wake up without 17 years of memory, which has problems of its own. Altering it so that they could have been just a happy couple who never had children is much easier for the parents to handle.
@@vizdrom yeah that's something I thought of too. I just stated here what I believed rowling thought when writing this part. Maybe just a small plot hole.
@Faris KS don't think too deep or it might start falling apart
awsome as always
Hi, you guys do great videos.
i love your videos!
Plot holes are actually kind of fun to find because it shows you everything has problems 😂
@Dizi Editleri yeah definitely man
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Unbreakable vows go both ways, so if Voldemort ever betrayed the person he made it with he would suffer. So being a back stabby asshat he never would make that vow.
The biggest one for me is in the books. How could Hermione set the house elves free by giving them clothing if she was not the "Master"?
I think the argument is the elves are owned by the school therefore by the students.
@@joemerlin152 Harry wasn't dobby's master either, then why did he present him with clothing if that's not going free him from being a servant to malfoys? He wasn't his master. It means anyone can free a house elf if he presents him with clothing. It just isn't clearly established in the universe maybe.
@@avanishdutta2658 Harry didn't present him with clothes her put the diary in a sock and gave to to Malfoy who throw it at dobby not realizing what he had done. And given that Hermione was a prefect I think that gave her to ability to free the elves being a "staff" member.
@@joemerlin152 yeah, good point.
@@avanishdutta2658 the movie did it a little differently with the sock in the book. The ture mystery was how did elves wash and fold clothes?
1) The time Turners were all destroyed in the Ministry at the end of book 5. But yeah, someone could have used them before then. 2) Harry used more than one wand in the Shrieking Shack, book 3, to incapacitate Snape. So yeah, more "chosen one" proof right there. 3) The plot hole you missed: 8 films worth of characters telling Harry he had his mother's eyes. Then we finally see Lily as a child with a close up of her BROWN eyes. Sure, you can't ask a kid to wear contacts, but no one thought of CG??!!
Other than that, it was good to see a plot hole rant done by someone who has ACTUALLY read the books!
Screen rant isn’t always right.On their website, they claim Tonks and Kingsley could beat bellatrix in a duel, whereas both of them lost to her in the books
@@juicyorphans Do we know who actually killed Tonks and Remus?
It’s not a plot hole if the creator explains it... and that’s half of these. Others are grasping at straws...
It's more like Jk is grasping at straws to explain her plot holes
@@user-cm4op2kz3y most of the plot holes he says she explains are already explained in the book
I'm not even four minutes in, and I already have a bone to pick.
Two things about the Marauders Map.
1. It doesn't show whoever is within your vicinity. It only shows who's at Hogwarts and where they are at the moment.
2. Fred and George not seeing Peter Pettigrew's name next to Ron's only makes sense if you make a bunch assumptions about the twins. Yeah, they like getting into mischief, but they don't seem like the kind of guys to spy on their little brother while he's asleep. That just seems creepy. Plus if Ron's asleep, they probably are too because I would imagine that after a long day at school, they get tired and put the map away. On top of all that, I don't think it's an object they obsessively look at 24/7. It seems more like they only use it when it's convenient for them.
Hopefully the rest of the video is better.
The largest plot hole for me is the Time Turner. In Prisoner of Azkaban they are allowing a student (Hermione) to use this potentially very dangerous device for the trivial reason of being able to take some extra classes. But as we see by the end of that story it is an extremely useful magical artifact that can be used to go back and alter past events for the good. Yet to my knowledge it is never used again despite there being numerous times where it could have averted a tragedy. Also is it unique or are there more of them? If they exist or can be produced in larger numbers then that seems like a device that would change the whole nature of the magical world and something both good and evil witches and wizards would be using as they battle each other. If on the other hand it is a singularly unique item then it would be one of the most valuable objects in the wizarding world and therefore compounds the absurdity of loaning it to a 13 year old girl just so she can boost the number of courses she is taking in a single semester.
not a plothole, in the harry potter universe everything that has ever happened would always have happened, if travel to the past to save someone who has died, it won't work because in the continuous line you have always traveled to try this, but couldnt do it, if something happened, it can't be changed, buckbeek was never killed, that was just the blade being sharpened
In the books it explains that Harry's horocrux had to be destroyed by voldemort only. Dumbledore said it in snape's memories in DH part 2. He said "and voldemort must do it, that is essential"
That Voldemort supposedly had to do it was a plot hole in and of itself. No other horcrux had to be destroyed by the creator.
@@Dadofer1970 Voldemort had to be the one to do it because it was the only way for Harry to survive. He had taken Lily's blood, so Harry was tethered to live as long as he lived. Dumbledore knew this. That's why his expression was triumphant in the fourth book when Harry told him Voldemort had taken his blood to create his new body. Dumbledore never intended for Harry to die.
1. If the Elder Wand could be snapped to render it useless, why did Dumbledore snap and destroy it?
2. If Ron camefrom several generations of Warts, how did he not know about THE SORTING HAT?
3. Why did Molly always buy textbooks instead of just passing them down with the exception PoA DADA under Lockhart?
Time travel meant everyone was in conitinual lope from the time Hermione turned the turner,.
Well what's even more interesting is why didn't Ron secretly find the elder wand and repair it? What a surprise it would be if he suddenly appear in the school with the elder wand... side issue is that he would have to kill Harry next.
good work
70% of these aren't even proper plot holes and rest have many possible answers :p
They just didn’t do enough research
About the haircuts, every teen boy in the uk at that time had that haircut 😂😂
Harry Potter was my childhood
mine too
Man oh man oh man! How many harry potter plot hole videos can one channel make?!?!?
The portkey used for the Triwizard tournament Cup was made by Barty Crouch Jr when he placed it in the maze just before the event. They say that in the end when he is captured.
The cup was always supposed to be a portkey it was the location that was changed. No one could see in the maze so no one knew they had disappeared.
True. But regardless everyone thought that Moody was taking care of the portkey, they had no idea it was not him doing the portkey in the maze
Harry could have left Dursleys place in HP part 7 under his invisibility cloak. Or disguised as a muggle with plyjuice potion. And then just take a bus to some place else. So many easy solutions.
Hey I love this vid
Correction:
7 gallions equals 49 dollars, not 175.
That would make Harry's fund to Fred and George amount to 7000 dollars. I don't see how that could ever suffice for renting their own building on a Diagonally.
I think the timeturner wasn't used as means to stop Voldemort because of the risks manipulating time poses. But it presents the question: why in the world is Hermione given the means to potentially mess up time for something as trivial as being able to attend multiple classes. She could seriously mess up things with even one slip-up.
Even though many people don't consider cursed child canon from my understanding, it alone shows just how dangerous time manipulation is. I mean I think no one needs explanations as to why it's kinda ridiculous Hermione is given such power but I guess Dumbledore REALLY trusted her to be careful.
The cursed child has different rules from the original 7 books, because in POA all the effects of time travel were already taken into account the first time around. In the cursed child they go back and create and alternate timeline, totally contradicting the POA rules
1. Never read the book?
They answered the elder wand question. The wand choices. So how is it a plot hole.
Dude, there's a million plot holes in Harry Potter. It's not easy to establish a world where that much magic is possible and have no plot holes.
Only 25? I felt like there were 25 per movie
The time turner was probably the most powerful object in those movies, and it’s hardly used
Didn't watch the video yet, but in book 3 he was in year 5, and in book 4 he was in year 7, meaning he skipped a year. (Idk if it was in the video) 😏
Speaking of plumbing, the chamber of secrets was created centuries before indoor plumbing. The school is over a thousand years old. Slythern added the chamber before leave the school, which would have happened hundreds of years before indoor plumbing.
As for Voldemort using an unbreakable vow, he is arrogant enough to believe his followers would never betray him.
Excuse me, the Romans had indoor plumbing, a thousand years before Hogwarts was established.
What irks me the most is how effortless spell casting is for the wizards. I mean, there should be some serious penalty for casting powerful spells or some intense mind focus for complex ones like restoring broken structures. All I can see are wizards swishing their wands like it's nothing.
Powerful wizards can do it with less effort, whereas wizards like the weasley twins would have to concentrate harder.I’m not saying the twins are weak, but they’re not necessarily powerful
Plot hole: Why was that one book screaming at Harry in the Philosopher Stone?
Why do people call it Philosopher’s Stone
It’s Sorcerer’s Stone
@@moopymeebloopy456 It's philosopher's stone. The philosopher's stone is a thing from real world folk lore, it's hundreds of years older than the harry potter franchise.
It was changed when published in the US because someone assumed americans wouldn't understand the reference and got enough people to agree.
How is that a plot hole? The book was probably just enchanted in some way.
@@moopymeebloopy456 Literally every country aside from America calls it the Philosophers stone
Spherical glasses? You mean circular, right?
Ok this narrator is driving me crazy not pronouncing the words right like dementor 😡
I didn't think that it was ever established in the books whether or not Neville witnessed the torture of his parents? He may not have been there. His situation is still traumatic though.
Moody, Dumbledore, and Tonks wouldn't have had the trace on them. It wears off when a wizard comes of age.
I have an anser to plot hole number 3 but it leads to a different plot hole. I heard that for animagis you can only see them on the map when they are in their animal form if you know about their animal form. the only problem is how would Harry have seen Peter on the map to tell Lupin about it?
For the dementor bit, well it affects Harry more because unlike all others he has more than 1 whole soul. He also has a part of Voldy's soul. Making him more privy to dementor attacks and pain.
And we all saw what happens when you mess too much with time turners in HP8.
Maybe the wands are subsidized by the Ministry.
Good idea! I don't think it's explicitly said, but I would imagine that the Ministry of Magic is tax supported. So, your idea makes sense.
@@bazzokzwattom2655 plus they're an important part of being a witch or wizard. Don't think there was a witch or wizard performing magic without a wand. Well maybe other than the wizard in Diagon Alley stirring his cup while reading Stephen Hawking's book.
I want to know how James Potter bullied someone like snape but didn't bully someone like Peter Pettigrew
Read a dang book pleas
Been re-read and re-watch deathly hollows, and a question appears about elder wand owner.
The wand belong to Dumbledore right? Dumbledore, loses possession of the Elder Wand after being successfully struck by Draco’s disarming spell. And the wand ownership belong to Draco.
Harry Potter becomes Elder Wand owners after physically overpowering Malfoy at the Malfoy Manor. According the story, This is what made Voldermort never truly own the wand, even by killing Snape, who he think was the true owner because Snape killed Dumbledore.
Now my confussion start here.
On the story. Harry come to Voldermort in the forbiden forrest, and Voldermort 'killed' Harry. Doesn't that made Voldermont indeed become the elder wand owners?
well Voldermort uses the elder wand to kill Harry and in the magic world, the wand would never harm its owner so the spell Voldermort cast actually kill the hocrux part in Harry, not harry himself.
The potters probably didnt think about using themselves. As a secret keeper. It could be that none they knew had tried it in that generation. Or they were too worried about running to think about it
There's also the invasion of Ministry of Magic in the Order of Fenix. They have means to imediately trace the use of magic by teenagers anywhere they are, but take hours to notice that these teenagers where there, INSIDE the very Ministry, doing magic.
How could these teenagers break in what was supposed to be one of the most secure places in the wizarding world?
Are security cameras motion activated or always on? Sometimes you see them one way, sometimes the other. Plot hole?
Or just two different ways cameras get made?
Same for portkeys
Another plothole, why Hermione didn't know about the thestrals ?
Wiat I kinda remember this,
But I forgot who she saw dead
The story also tells us that harry is the horcrux that has to be destroyed by Voldemort
I got another plot hole for you: In the books, Hermione is *ALWAYS* yakking about "Technology doesn't work because too much magic"! Then what the Hell is the deal with:
Colin Creevy's camera in Chamber of Secrets???
The projector Snape uses to teach about Werewolves in Prisoner of Azkaban?!?!?
Magic spells are great....have a great day
I'm sorry guys...
But I freaking love Neville-
A little knit picky tbh, around 5 of those have any weight.
I always found it strange in the last film. Starts with them asking Olivander about wants. Specifically dracos and belatrixs.
Scene after they take PJ potion turn into belatrix.
Get to gringots only to be stopped and asked for the wand for and ID
They are then worried by thing and end up charming the goblin?
THEY LITTLERALLY HAVE BELLATRIX WAND???
The goblins would have seen that the wand didn't belong to Bellatrix anymore
DUDE! The time-traveller plot hole is absolutely a PLOT HOLE! It's one of the biggest and most damaging plot holes in the entire series! TIME TRAVEL NEVER WORKS EVER!
My biggest problem is after Voldemort lost his power he went into hiding. Why? just go to Barty Crouch JR or someone to rebuild your body.
Finding them was problem and lots of his followers claimed to no longer follow him, so he would see them as traitors
But BUT. how was quirrell able to shake Harry’s hand in the philosophers stone? Before you say “he was not possessed yet”, remember that he was stuttering when he first met Harry. We learn at the end of the book that the stuttering was just an act. And because of the protection that Harry’s mother gave him it caused quirrel a lot of pain when he came in contact with Harry.
3/4 of these aren't plot holes. It's just SR unhappy with the writer's and director's choices. I know making lists all the time can't be easy, but seriously, try a little harder. Yes, you had a few real ones, but all in all, it was just SR complaining,
Exactly that was what I was thinking the hole time
Facts
While i agree that only a small portion of these were actual serious plotholes. You absolutely can't just go and say that SC are "just complaining". Nitpicks still count as problems about the movie and Harry Potter is absolutely littered with them. And you cannot use the argument that "it was explained in the books". The movies should explain them.
Isn't the Trace only on underage wizards?? It wouldn't matter if Tonks and Mad Eye and Dumbledore used magic at Privet Drive because they were all of age?
There is no trace the ministry knows when magic has happened. Since no adult wizards live in harry's neighborhood the ministry concluded Harry did a hover charm, blow up his aunt and conducted a petronis charm.
Elton from TFIL has the wand lol 😅
Screen rant doesn’t do their research.There is different types of Portkeys.Also your website claims that Tonks and Kingsley could defeat Bellatrix, while both of them lost to her
I think it is perfectly normal to didn't think as thoroughly and have some plot holes. No need to try to retcon and explain them away.
Who else came here just so they could prove these all wrong
oh
great job
POV: Some people watching this haven't watched all Harry potter movies
I don’t think you understand the POV thing
@@WhyfallinLUVwhenUcanfallasleep how so
@@savage_god1568 usually when you say POV (point of view) you are supposed to say something from the point of view of (insert anything)
So you should have wrote
POV: watching this without having watched all the HP movies
Or
POV: you are watching this without having watched all the HP movies
@@WhyfallinLUVwhenUcanfallasleep it means the same thing but just said different thx
@Brian Cairns Sadly, grammar isn't important to YT commenters, neither are spelling and proper pronunciation, according to the replies I always get (most often from Brits) when I comment on them. As Mork used to say, "Heavy sigh..." Stay safe.
Fun fact: Labor-value doesn't exist in the wizarding world.
I'm guessing there are several ways of making a portkey.
Around the time of the goblet of fire there was a lot of guys who had long hair
I think the hair style from GoF was due to the fact in the books, every time the Dursley cut Harry's hair it grew back
Back when the GoF movie was made, that seemed to be a popular hairstyle
@@juicyorphans It's actually a lot more interesting than that. It's pretty common for actors to grow their hair out before filming so the designers can style their hair how they want it. However, there was a new director stepping into GoF who apparently didn't get the memo, and loved how it looked and had them keep it. Dan said he hated how long his hair was in that movie.
U haven’t even watched the supercarlembrothers, they have theories for these plot holes that makes sense
arthimacy is math in hogwarts.... ela is history of magic
There is no plothole with the map.
Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs enchanted the map so only the Marauders can see the Marauders.
So only Harry can see Peter on it.
Harry can see the Marauders because of his father's blood, and he can be seen because of his mother's blood.
It's pretty simple.
omg
Dude this makes a lot of sense
Plot holes are tight.
there are different kind of portkeys. some work with specific times and others are activated all time and get you around just by touching it. come on potterhead. you should know this already :)) :)
I always wondered about how in chamber of secrets Harry and Ron couldn’t get through the portal to get to the platform, but they could fly there? I thought the wizarding world was a whole separate world, nonetheless ron acted like his family wouldn’t be able to get back as if there was no other solution? Am I misinterpreting this or is this a plothole
2:59 Where did you get 175 USD from? I used HP-Lexicon & the site converted 7 Galleons to 50 USD which makes it a lot more sensible in terms of how much a Wizard spends on a wand and how much of a profit Ollivander makes
Some people think 1 Galleon equals $25
That makes it even worse.
@@juicyorphans I’m so confused on how … like… we need some rates here
@@Sidiciousify yes yes it does
Might as well count the holes in lace.
Some stories are only good because you know the author thought of everything and you just want to explore their made up universe
Harry Plot-holes
Hairy Plop-Holes
It's ironic that the guy who played Harry potter has almost faded away now while the the one who died in the 4th installment landed the role of the dark knight himself...
6th
@@arshadhussain3833 4th
There's no consistent value for Galleons. >.>
Answer for all is magic
I'm surprised it's only 25
But Harry has a bit more soul than Neville (the Horkrux inside him). Therefore, the dementors prefer him
Here's another plot hole according to me:
so In the first harry potter movie, during the train scene Hermione knew who harry was, But she was a muggle, Then how did she knew about harry and his legend?
She read about him.
@@mitchc.2660 Where, and how did she recognised him?
@@TheARYAN993 he is in almost every DADA book as the one that beat Voldemort and is very recognizable with the scar.
@@mitchc.2660 Yeah but how did she had access of those books, i get it she could've read about the spells from the school supplies but the history of harry and voldemort seems a little far fetched, maybe i am wrong but they should've explained this a little.
@@TheARYAN993 she got every book possible on magic and of course she got the ones with Harry in them.
Wait, did Quirrell have hair before Voldemort went on the back of his head?
Yeah
.... You Know it's Hallows, not Hollows, right?
So your first plot hole is way off. It's only the ELDER wand that becomes disloyal to its previous Master. It always wants to be recognized by who it believes is the most powerful aka whoever disarms it from its handler. That is not true of all wands.
The real plot hole you should of seen from the first mark is that voldemort DOES NOT kill snape. Nagini does. So even if Voldemort believes he has to kill Snape then uh.... he fucked up because he told Nagini to do it.
You guys really have no idea what the term plothole really means, which you actually prove in the poor introduction of this video.
That enchanted letter was not in the books.
I dont think people should be negative about plot holes. Just enjoy the show. Plot holes are something to laugh about, sure, but lets not be hateful!
Bill worked for the bank
Neville is a boss # the real chosen one indeed
I'm gonna jump in here and suggest that an unbreakable vow MUST be voluntary.
The haircuts in the goblet of fire was just the fad hairstyle at the time it was filmed. Long hair was in then it was short again.