Probably, meant those that have exposed mistreatment of Arabs by the IDF and other Israeli's in general, but that was his first thought. After a quick search oops it's an NGO rather than an older documentary. Clip from Wiki: 'Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and some other senior political figures have repeatedly criticised the organization.[5] His government tried to dissuade other governments from providing any funding to it. Netanyahu strongly criticised BtS in a speech to the Knesset in early 2015, and late in the year, the Education Minister proposed a bill blocking its speakers from state schools. At the same time, some senior figures in the Israeli defense and security establishment have defended the NGO. For instance, General Amiram Levin said in 2015 that "Breaking the Silence strengthens the IDF and its morality."[6]' And recently we have seen the IDF vandalising a shop and filming it on YT.
ua-cam.com/video/w9vpaTRv_64/v-deo.html - only jews walk here ua-cam.com/video/Pfo-BDuiCHw/v-deo.html - pushing a guy on wheel chair shit feels like its straight out of the pianist
And therein lies the issue. Theocracies have a bit of wiggle room in them because people can convert, or if the theocratic power is stable enough, it can tolerate minority faiths. But when ethnicity is linked to religion, it inevitably gets bogged down in racism, from all directions.
Not really. Different heritages and widely differing cultural interpretations do not make for a single ethnicity. I'm just going on the first dictionary definition I found for the word.
The truth is that the media is deceptive. For years, Israel has been bullying the Palestinians, killing them, arresting them, stealing their homes, and committing crimes against their children. But when Palestine responds to all this persecution, and to the continued settlement of their lands, they become terrorists. Can you imagine becoming a terrorist because you defended your land and your home against your tormentors?! The truth is that your taxes have been going to support this for years! You can deny Freemasonry, but the matter is crystal clear. While America is very slow in any reaction to any real problems and even against the Russian invasion, it did not take a moment to support Israel from the first day, because America, despite being the largest puppet country, is being manipulated by hidden hands. is sad that there were civilian casualties, but whoever looks honestly knows that Israel itself is more Nazi than Hitler, but unlike him, the media and the rest of the countries support it because it is not against them, but against innocent people whose land was occupied, and not only that, but Israel invents lies and excuses, as well as stealing cultures. Palestine and all its neighboring countries, they are thieves You can continue to believe what you want, but the truth remains one and clear, which is that those who are under occupation have the right to defend themselves. I ask my Allah to guide everyone to the right path No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart.
@@williamwood2913 Do you have any clue how expensive these are to make? I was inspired by Corey to do my own street interviews and let me tell you, I respect him 1000x more after that. I didn't have to travel much or pay a translator, or go through security checkpoints and do all kinds of paperwork. Despite all that it was tiring, and lonely (expect a rejection rate of 99%)
@@uplaymedaltop5003 they meant the oppression. It will never end. Israelis always prioritize their own lives over others', and use the holocaust as an excuse to the mass murdering of palestinians for nearly 8 decades, which is also disrespectful to those who suffered and died slowly during the holocaust. Not only that, but they deny the Nakba in 1948 -- but God forbid you deny the holocaust!
@@uplaymedaltop5003 I wonder why the statement "this will never end" prompts the question "end what" and "what do you expect ... after what happened in nazi germany" The "end" seems to an end of the Israel-Palestine conflict, (which seems unlikely). Is the purpose of the (unending) conflict then, from the Israeli point of view, to preserve a Jewish state and a permanent conflict with Palestine as a memorial to the victims of nazi germany? OK. There is no obligation on people to practice "liberty, equality, and fraternity", or to guarantee the "right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", if they collectively decide they don't want to.
The truth is that the media is deceptive. For years, Israel has been bullying the Palestinians, killing them, arresting them, stealing their homes, and committing crimes against their children. But when Palestine responds to all this persecution, and to the continued settlement of their lands, they become terrorists. Can you imagine becoming a terrorist because you defended your land and your home against your tormentors?! The truth is that your taxes have been going to support this for years! You can deny Freemasonry, but the matter is crystal clear. While America is very slow in any reaction to any real problems and even against the Russian invasion, it did not take a moment to support Israel from the first day, because America, despite being the largest puppet country, is being manipulated by hidden hands. is sad that there were civilian casualties, but whoever looks honestly knows that Israel itself is more Nazi than Hitler, but unlike him, the media and the rest of the countries support it because it is not against them, but against innocent people whose land was occupied, and not only that, but Israel invents lies and excuses, as well as stealing cultures. Palestine and all its neighboring countries, they are thieves You can continue to believe what you want, but the truth remains one and clear, which is that those who are under occupation have the right to defend themselves. I ask my Allah to guide everyone to the right path No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart.
@@user-xd6nc6rg7b Dude the Palestinians have been murdering everyone around them for thousands of years before that. Your talking about the army that Xerces controlled. Arabs and Isreali's lived in the same spot forever the only thing that changed is a border was placed their. It's the same people who fight for and against the Israeli state. You just care about it because you believe what feminists tell you to believe which is western culture is evil. When the fact is we ended slavery and Arabs still hold slaves today.
As someone from America, I like watching your videos. You talk to anyone who is willing to talk. You ask some tough questions and it's interesting to see the everyday response from Jews, Arabs, Christians. I think your doing humanity a good service. Especially with what happened with Israel and what's going on in gaza
It's also interesting seeing the difference in discourse is between the Palestinians and Israelis. The Israelis seem to have logical and civilized responses, most of the time. On the other hand, the Palestinians answer with hate and want separation with no way of coexisting, most of the time. You can really see the divide
@@midwesthoodrat this is true. Really, Israel is the only real democracy in the mideast. If I had to go to the mideast, best believe Israel would be my top pick in a heartbeat. It's one of the few places I'd feel safe in. I'm not Muslim or Jewish.. I was raised Christian and of course that area is sacred to Christians as well.
@@zhulyi i definitely don't agree with that at all. We are ALL made in God's image, period. End of story. We are all God's chosen, Jew or Gentile. No religion gives anyone any right to claim they are superior to anyone. Christians,Jews, Muslims, or anyone else. That kind of mentality can rub people the wrong way. I don't think Christians are superior to non Christians. Ever faith has its good apples and bad apples. I'm cool with anyone of any faith, as long as they are respectful in return
@@zhulyi America has been very generous to Israel all these years. We're the ones who give them all this money. Do they think they are superior to non Jewish Americans too? I am curious 🤔🤨 on that? A country that is mostly Christian, being o so nice. Who's asking who for help?
@@midwesthoodrat Have you considered why one group, the one whose land is dispossessed, the one whose are being bombed daily in Gaza and killed by land stealers in the occupied West Bank, might not have the views as the illegal occupiers and those who benefit from an apartheid state? If Israel would withdraw to the 1967 borders, a settlement of the conflict can begin.
As an israeli with Jewish origins i fully support separation between religion and state. Israel should become a state for jews, arab christians, arab muslims, druze and other minorities with equal rights for all under israeli nationality identity, official language remaining Hebrew and abolishing the current law of return. Am israel hai 🇮🇱❤️
I do think there should be a seperation between religon and the state, so for example every city should choose wether it wants to have public transportation on shabbat. But however the law of return? Since the war started and I've seen the worlwide antisemetisim, I've started thinking it's better for jews to come here. Israel was established as an escape for jews from worldwide antisemetisim 75 years ago, and it seems like jews are still not safe when people literaly scream in their protests to "gas the jews" or when universities in america think that supporting the genocide of the jews "depends on the context" so yeah..
That last guy really demonstrates the victim mentality of many Jews, especially in Israel. “No one was chopped up into pieces like us before”, uhhh yea actually, a lot of people have been discriminated against in history, and to this day. That doesn’t make it ok to turn around and discriminate against someone else. It’s basically the same mentality a parent being abusive due to being abused as a child.
Many people thru out history have suffered horrendously, just read Bartolomé de Las Casas account on how the conquistadors basically exterminated entire tribes in MesoAmerica, the native population decreased by almost 80%!! unfortunately humans in general are capable of horrific acts
The truth is that the media is deceptive. For years, Israel has been bullying the Palestinians, killing them, arresting them, stealing their homes, and committing crimes against their children. But when Palestine responds to all this persecution, and to the continued settlement of their lands, they become terrorists. Can you imagine becoming a terrorist because you defended your land and your home against your tormentors?! The truth is that your taxes have been going to support this for years! You can deny Freemasonry, but the matter is crystal clear. While America is very slow in any reaction to any real problems and even against the Russian invasion, it did not take a moment to support Israel from the first day, because America, despite being the largest puppet country, is being manipulated by hidden hands. is sad that there were civilian casualties, but whoever looks honestly knows that Israel itself is more Nazi than Hitler, but unlike him, the media and the rest of the countries support it because it is not against them, but against innocent people whose land was occupied, and not only that, but Israel invents lies and excuses, as well as stealing cultures. Palestine and all its neighboring countries, they are thieves You can continue to believe what you want, but the truth remains one and clear, which is that those who are under occupation have the right to defend themselves. I ask my Allah to guide everyone to the right path No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart.
I don't think you understand. Sure his wording was as if others haven't experienced genocide, lets put that aside for a moment because I think he would agree to this after seeing photos of Cambodian genocide for example. But his point, and this is important, is that the necessity of the Jewish Democratic State remaining Jewish is a historical necessity that is just as relevant today. Nobody saved us from the horrors of the Russian pogroms, the middle eastern pogroms, the Holocaust, and nobody would save us if this happened again tomorrow - the UN as a dysfunctional Orwellian nightmare. There will always be a need for the Jewish people to be self-determined in their homeland, at least we can stand on our own two feet and defend ourselves, a basic right that nobody even acknowledges they have in every other nation in the world (apart from Kurds, Tibetans etc).
@@michaelneufeld4515 Israel supports the Kurds in northern Iraq region and Syrian region, but it's more complicated in Turkey (Kurds in Turkey live under Erdogan's fascism, he also considers Israel an enemy). And the Kurds in Iran are helpless, not much Israel can do, they live under the fascist ayatollah regime there. Israel also supports all the other oppressed ethnic & religious minorities that were victims of genocide by daesh. Israel supports the Yazidis, the Assyrians etc.
"We're Jewish, therefore Israel needs to be a Jewish state!" - I hate this way of thinking. We were Jews before 1948 as well, we don't stop being Jewish because of Israel's identity as a state. And if all that define us as being Jews is how we define our state, then it's really looking bad for us.
@@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440 not related to what I stated. Our identity as being Jews is not bound to the identity of the state and should not be used as an excuse to identify the state in a certain way, particularly not when we can't agree on what we mean when we talk about something being "Jewish".
@@shmuelaryehkoltov241 Half the Jews live in Israel. The Jews have been ethnically cleansed out of Europe and the Middle East and now USA and Israel are the only two places with substantial Jewish populations. Not supporting Israel means you take for granted half the Jewish population.
@@shmuelaryehkoltov241 A personal opinion. Until israel wants to consider itself a "jewish state" there's no peace. It would work if the State were found in Sahara, far away from another population But Palestinians consider all the land as theirs too, meaning they feel related to it. They have their history in the land too. That's why it can't work and the establishment of a palestinian state in '67 borders and Jerusalem divided will lead to a civil war. The only solution is to let religion and culture in the past as it should be, and be both opened and establishing a secular binational country.
no, its for protection and reason. israel established by zionists who were hungry for protaction and for that land. the reason why even israel comes as an idea was to protect jews esp after what happend in nazi germani so no u can hate this kind of thinkinig way. but its the sad truth. if u were a jewish human and u looked around u at the world and looked at some of the past u would think way diffrently and will agree with this man
"No one was chopped to pieces except us" (during WWII by Germans) he says. Did he forget about the massacre of Slavs on the Eastern Front? What about the communists, Roma, the disabled and other enemies of the state?
No one forgets about them. Jews were systematically targeted and murdered not only by the Germans but by their collaborators who were too happy to kill Jews, even before any German occupation. The Jews then suffered under Marxists as well.
To suggest that israel will be just democratic without the "jewish state" you need to ignore history of persecution that Jews faced and still facing today. So theoretically its sounds good but one of the biggest reasons israel created is to be a home for the jewish people. This question remind me of "why cant we just live in peace without borders and divided groups". Its sounds good in theory but history and human nature wont allow it
The Jews are literally acting out what you’re describing. The Jews are no a special case throughout history. Many groups of people have found themselves oppressed (Palestinians). The Jews are doing well in Europe and America. You make it sound like they’re being persecuted today, yet all I see is wealthy Jews in positions of power. Meanwhile, they’re committing ethnic cleansing. No excuse for any of that.
Check who is pushing open borders throughout the west. Just saying. I know, Israel is different. Human nature is the go-to justification for atrocity. If you honestly study Israel's history as a modern state, there is only one pattern to recognize. Seeing it in the other is a choice.
@@dsm5d723 i actually didnt understand you, one thing i think i got right is that you think that "the evil zionists" are responsible for the open borders of the west (correct me if im wrong). There is literally zero israeli intrest in that. We in Israel actually respect communities that want to keep their values, we live that struggle. I said human nature in the context of that people will never co exist 100% without wars and not even close. We are animals in the end. Didnt try to justify anything, thats you putting words in my mouth
@@Bdalak The Zionist-Globalist differentiation is a subtle aspect of the reality of the world that I have nobody to discuss with. The post-WWII world of US empire, technocracy and intel agency control, Eisenhower's MIC, was established in parallel with Israel. Yet Soros is a real ideologue, he despises Israel for wanting to maintain what you speak of. The obvious overlap of WEF globalists, who I would pin the open borders, cheap replacement labor strategy in the west on aren't necessarily "the evil Zionists," but are they in any way opposed to the eventual establishment of a greater Israel? A Palestinian state, and not more bad faith hot air? Ask Greta. You weren't expecting such subtlety, were you? Look HARD in the mirror and ask yourself why Pfizer is now responsible for jabbing "your" population with mRNA vaccines? Keep those values real close to your identity. I didn't put the poison in your system. Go hold those people accountable, lest your find they are YOU.
i've seen this argument so many times and every time it's dumb, 1 countries converted to islam millennia ago by saying "why have muslim majority nations" your just asking why have religion in the first place secondly the basis for those countries isn't their ethnicity, like kuwait wasn't formed because the Kuwaitis said we cannot coexist with other people and need to be an overwhelming majority at minimum which is the basis of zionism and by extension the state of israel
@@alexjost9890 what do you mean? Did Israelis say they cannot coexist with other people? You have countries that call themselves Arab republic or Islamic republic, yet somehow it is accepted? Here is a news flash for you, religion is tied to ethnicity in those countries, if a kuwaiti converts from Islam to another religion he or she loses their civic rights or may even face death.
There would be no problem or there would be a whole lot less of any problems, if they would just coexist. Like other countries do. Not trying to encroach and take other peoples homes and land. You don’t see Sweden trying to take parts of Finland.
@@mikeylejan8849 yt deleted my comment but i said kuwait is 1 of only 2 gulf countries to have a native christian population 2 if u think non one has a problem with the islamic republic of iran then idk what to tell u 3 by your logic there shouldn't the eu, 4 i gave u the ideological basis for zionism which was not coexistence which served as the blueprint and basis for the state of israel 5 you're going on an idea that the worlds issue is simply in the existence of a jewish state which is naive and ignorant 6 if u actually want a country to compare to israel i'd suggest looking at the history of either Liberia or Australia
Corey always finds the most random people but somehow it represents a wide array of opinions. I am also a Israeli jew and I think it should become just a democracy. I think they should actually keep the right of return law, but just lose the official definition of "Jewish State", who needs that? All the religious laws should be abolished IMO and make it a Jewish and Arab state officially which is what it is... this is seperate from the palestinian issue
And Israeli Supreme Court will immediately dismantle the Law of Return, and welcome in the millions of Arabs claiming the right of return from all around - the Palestinians in Lebanon and Jordan.
I don’t see the problem with separating you from the Palestinians… jewish people should have their own state with their own identity. Currently all the citizens get equal rights so why not keeping it that way? A Jewish state with equal rights to everyone. “Just a democracy” will completely dispose what Israel is all about. A home for the Jewish people to feel safe.
Interesting. Thanks. I feel that this is a global event that matters so I need to understand it as much as possible. It took me a while to have any grasp of the motivation behind the need for a ‘Jewish state’, which I now see as an important act of peaceful resistance for many - a way of saying ‘we are here and you will not force us to convert under threat of death or expulsion’; then I read your comment and I wonder how you see this.. do you have a different form of resistance to the sadistic and murderous ideology of Oct 7? For wiw I would have agreed with you before Oct 7 but find myself thinking ‘fair enough’ of the old guy post Oct 7. I still cannot believe what was done on that day, nor the betrayal of so much media in not broadcasting interviews with the returned hostages and other victims and witnesses of Oct 7. This event has changed my established voting habits as I cannot vote for a party that expresses one-sided empathy and conflates the Palestinian cause with the cause of Aboriginal Australians which I believe, after careful reading, has more in common with the Jewish cause than the Palestinian one). But you are, of course, welcome to criticise anything you understand to be factually incorrect; or have any other objection you to, as it’s your reality, not mine.
@@chef3281 As a survivor of a terror attack in 2016 I've been a persistent leftist and pro palestinian demonstrator, but after Oct 7th my views have turned on their heads. I feel like I've been looking at the whole situation very superficially my entire life. I think all the religious and right leaning laws which exclude my Arab brothers citizens of israel, Druze, and Bedouin brothers etc - cause more harm than good and are racist. I think if we actually make a "concession" of saying you know what this isn't a Jewish State by defintion, but still, jews, being a persecuted minority with unique history should have continued right of return to this land regardless of the defintion. I just think it's anyways not a "jewish state" and there's a contradiction between it being fully democratic and jewish. This - makes people call us "ethnostate", which is factually false on the ground, in reality, but this label is derived from a somewhat misleading definition. So that all citizens of Israel can unite against terrorism and for the cause of a secure Israel - I believe the need to call it "jewish" defeats the purpose. I believe both sides will have to make big concessions and this is one of them... but I do not believe in a one state solution AT ALL, as your comment suggests. I do not believe there's any logic in the palestinian diaspora's right of return claims, or think any palestinian should be able to become an israeli citizen, nor would they want that. I think there has to be a more united Israel, which is more just and fair towards Druze, Arabs, Bedouins and Christians who ARE interested in taking part in Israeli society, some of them serve in the military in combat even but still don't get treated with the respect and love they deserve (on the broader social level, within military units I'm sure there is full equality and brotherhood)
I loved the smile of the woman (blondie) who said we need to separate religion and state. As long as religious fanatics and terrorists have political influence it will be hard to achieve peace.
You do realize that it was religious fanatics that created the state of Israel in the first place. And it has been run by religious fanatics ever since it's founding, similar to Iran after the 1979 revolution. The entire idea and project that is Israel came from fanatics that held a certain ideology . Without that fanatical ideology and those behind it Israel would have never been. In order to achieve piece that ideology needs to be dissolved from people's minds. The land should be made whole again, those that were displaced from it made a part of it again and together with the people that are there now they should create a new nation that is neither Jewish nor Muslim. With a 2 party system, similar to that of the US. Where they have to work together to have a functioning country. No dominance, only cooperation. Anything else will only lead to the same result that has been for the past 80 years.
The truth is that the media is deceptive. For years, Israel has been bullying the Palestinians, killing them, arresting them, stealing their homes, and committing crimes against their children. But when Palestine responds to all this persecution, and to the continued settlement of their lands, they become terrorists. Can you imagine becoming a terrorist because you defended your land and your home against your tormentors?! The truth is that your taxes have been going to support this for years! You can deny Freemasonry, but the matter is crystal clear. While America is very slow in any reaction to any real problems and even against the Russian invasion, it did not take a moment to support Israel from the first day, because America, despite being the largest puppet country, is being manipulated by hidden hands. is sad that there were civilian casualties, but whoever looks honestly knows that Israel itself is more Nazi than Hitler, but unlike him, the media and the rest of the countries support it because it is not against them, but against innocent people whose land was occupied, and not only that, but Israel invents lies and excuses, as well as stealing cultures. Palestine and all its neighboring countries, they are thieves You can continue to believe what you want, but the truth remains one and clear, which is that those who are under occupation have the right to defend themselves. I ask my Allah to guide everyone to the right path No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart.
@@amrelemary338 It is Jevvish based on its' nature such as giving Jevvs the right to self determination in their homeland. Not that it is only for Jevvs.
When a country only applies Democracy to its Jewish population, it is not democratic. And this question is asked to every Country which claims to be democratic when it isn't.
@@anthonyr963 not really their homeland that's like saying the crusades were giving Christians the right of self determination in their homeland but sure let's ignore that Let's talk about the return law
they are being discriminated. specially Arabs, you need to look at the current situation and you will find out that they can't even speak a word about their family's who were separate in 1948 and they expelled to Gaza and now they getting murder and a lot of them are censored
@@oussamafataicha2987 True about that. But that is more about the country run by a far right government during a time of war. War time actions can bring about lots of bad decisions, like America interning Japanese Americans. Hopefully that doesn't last for long, and hopefully a more moderate government is chosen soon, although that doesn't usually happen in extreme times like Israel is in now.
When groups operate in their own self interest and prove to have strong in-group preferences to the exclusion of other groups, impossible. And this is human nature and cannot be removed - it is an innate and inherent part of our humanity. This means a natural ruler rises above the rest, or a hierarchy of rulers in a state of factionalism against one another. We see this in every liberal democracy. The only way to prevent this is to align a nation along a definable identity shared by the people and which is tied to a sense of kinship in a common origin, history, shared traditions and values. Without this you have people who rise to the top as the winners who bring their group with them, or those left behind believing in the flawed worldview of their system of governance - and nothing in between.
@@universome511Europe is made up of nation states that have established national identities and languages. Even people who migrate their are expected to become part of the nation (and even then there is strong backlash and nativist sentiment). Israel has been in a position where it’s faved extreme hostility from its neighbors, and that added with the historic experience of the Jewish people makes demographic concerns something extra sensitive over there
Not really strange. Once you say the state is no longer Jewish, the Leftist Supreme Court will allow anyone and everyone to immigrate and receive citizenship. And once that happens - Jewish majority will be lost. And we, Jews, have lived long enough without a Jewish majority to know what it means. So, that's the right answer.
They love to be jews as a badge but, they live as seculars! And that's How you can see if someone is fighting for truth or fighting for superiority & ego.
22 failed a r ab states , all cleansed out of a million j e ws and still the m u z talks about democracy and squeels like a jelous pig at the tiny j e w ish state..... because its not algeria or yemen or syria..... keep crying
Imagine someone asking Germans if Germany should be a democracy instead of a German democracy. Asking French if France should be a democracy instead of a French democracy. Asking Irish if Ireland should be a democracy instead of Irish democracy. Asking Polish if Poland should be a democracy instead of a Polish democracy.
But those countries are just democracies, so your question is the wrong way around. You would have to ask, instead being just a democracy, should there be German democracy instead? And I think we all know the type of person who would answer yes to that question.
Ask the Germans if Germany is for Germans. Ask the French if France is for the French. Ask the Irish if Ireland is for the Irish. Ask the Polish if Poland is for the Polish. People in the first three nations will probably tell you that you are racist simply for asking, and then bewilderedly claim that anyone can be German, Irish, or French.
@@tonedowne lol the official language is not German? Don’t they have a German national anthem? Don’t they require kids to learn the history of the Germans? Don’t they have German culture?
I live in Israel & I have many Arab friends. Life isn't difficult for them. They have it very good & they will be the first to admit it. They have no restrictions practicing their religion & they have all the same rights, in fact they have more privilege because they are exempt from army service. It's because Israel is a Jewish state they have it so good.
You just proved why Israel is an apartheid state. Two different laws based on ethnicity. No other country has such laws. And the reason arabs don't serve in military is because the state of Israel don't trust them, apartheid!!
But when asked in an interview in another episode, most of the Arabs said they felt lesser than Jewish and were often treated differently? Maybe you could ask them how they really feel without putting words in their mouth. That would be interesting.
It's hard to be so brave in that situation, apparently. Generational trauma probably plays a role, but man it sure does suck how often a social group gets mistreated and then passes it on. Not universally thankfully: Northern Ireland and South Africa are heartening examples of how to be better. But this video was mostly heartbreaking; so much, "HELL YEAH ETHNONATIONALISM!" 😭😭
I'm Christian from Israel and I think what many foreigner don't realize is that Israel being a "Jewish state" preserves secular society and safe guards it from Islamism and radical influences. It's a secular democracy BECAUSE it's a Jewish (and not Muslim) state. Just ask my Maronite brothers in Lebanon.
Not even other Christians in Lebanon like your “Maronite” brothers. Y’all committed crime in Lebanon that no Lebanese, Muslim or Christian, will ever forget. Gtfoh!
@@HDracerdon't agree with you. We have to be first of all Jew state and then democratic state. De-facto the Christians and Muslims have the same rights as jews, and that is possible because the jews garantee that.
If Israel is to remain a Jewish state, the two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict is inevitable because you can't legitimately expect the Arabs from Gaza and the West Bank (Judea and Samaria if you wish) to integrate in a state in which they wouldn't be nominally equal.
also the so called "palestinians" don't want a two state solution. they want a one state solution in which there is another arab muslim dictatorship free of jews instead of the current jewish democracy one.
Everywhere else in the world there are limits to immigration. That is the issue. Also horrific inequality and brutality. Facts that have been stated by the largest human rights organizations within Israel.
What country has a policy that is different from one citizen to another based on ethnicity? I would think the obvious moral answer is Israel should be a democracy only, but there is a problem of safety due to resentment among Palestinians that is a tricky issue. Australians live in Australia, but being a citizen is what makes you Australian - that's it. It doesn't mean you are white and love vegemite. I just can't comprehend the justification of an ethno-state. We had the white Australia policy 50 years ago, but it's now understood to be a moral stain on our country's history as discrimination under the law based on race is self-evidently backward.
Jews and non jews have the same right and freedoms. What is the problem? The only thing that makes Israel a Jewish country by definition, are the symbols, like the anthem for example, and the right of return which says that Jews have a right for citizenship. Why is it bad for Jews to have their own state? Jews want one place where they will be a majority, just like every country won't just open its borders to everyone.
There are almost 50 Muslim majority countries & some among them are well known as Islamic States. In comparison, you have this small Jewish State, the only one in the world, that everyone is going crazy over. Many of the Jews in Israel actually came from Muslim countries that kicked them out.
They kicked out 750,000 ppl in 1948 and in 2023 are attempting to kick out another 2.3 million ppl....there's a big difference its called ETHNIC CLEANSING AND GENOCIDE
No true they leave by themselves. Ask. Morrocan Jews or Algerians. No one forced them to leave Learn about history that Jews live in peace with Arabs than with Europeans
I think you need to go way, way deeper down this rabbit hole. This is the key issue that the Jewish people need to think on and discover truth in. Do we embrace our identity as Jews or do we try to be like other civilizations (the West)? It's a big topic!
I personally see nothing wrong with an Ethno-State so small that it can not be seen on most full-scale maps. I am unsure why so many people are aginst such a thing.
@@igbl108 great point. We have a unique identity, we should embrace it and not be afraid. In the final analysis we are a just, wise, and kind civilization. Of course it is our responsibility to act as such.
@@igbl108maybe because this ethnostate was created due to ethnic cleansing? And keeps oppressing a huge number of indigenous people because of the Nazist ideology?
The last guy that said "bad luck" what if things were the other way around and you one day find yourself in that same situation as the Arab Israeli, or Palestinian then what? bad luck?
Well, I agree that his views are wrong, but what do you mean by "what if things were the other way around and you one day find yourself in that same situation as the Arab Israeli, or Palestinian then what? bad luck?" ? Israel was created because of those things happening all over the world, especially in ww2...
Approximately 30 countries with Islam as the official religion and approx 50 with Christianity as the official religion yet everyone questions a democratic Jewish majority country where everyone has equal rights (on paper). No country is free of discrimination. How have religious minorities been treated in Muslim majority countries? The answer is not well.
Lol at the "on paper" addition. Basically admitting there's not equal rights. If they existed in practice, you wouldn't need to mention that they're on paper.
@@scottcantdance804 how are equal rights or any rights in most, if not all Muslim majority countries? How many Christians remain in Egypt? Malaysia has bumiputera, which is institutionalized racism written into law, favoring Muslims in all aspects of life. Tell us all about equal rights for non Muslims anywhere in the Muslim world.
Is that why the 11% of christians have had no issues for the past several hundred years? And do you even know what zionism means? It means a Jewish ETHNO state, no one cares about the religion part, the problem is the ethnic discrimination, no other country in the world does this
That's not true, there are only 15 countries with Christianity as their official religion, and the vast majority of those (excluding wild exceptions such as the Philippines) Christian countries are really not Christian countries in practice, and Christianity has little to no influence on the practical functioning of the state. Many of them have laws that are completely opposite to Christian dogma, such as abortion, none of them has limitations on the immigration of people based on religion, and almost all have absolutely equal rights between its citizens, unlike Israel. Official religion in this case is just a relic of the past, something ceremonial. It becomes problematic in the 21st century when this isn't the case, especially if it is connected to the formation of an ethnostate, as is the case in Israel.
Subscribed from Australia. I also think you are doing humanity -- and Israel -- a service. I am an old retired English and History teacher -- 80 in fact -- who went to school with quite a few Jews in Sydney, people with a lot of missing family. I became a teacher of English and History, even worked a couple of years in an Orthodox Jewish school with Israelis on staff, but mainly South African Jews, including one colleague whose father once hid Nelson Mandela when he was on the run. So I have been party to some interesting conversations as you might guess and look forward to seeing some here. My thoughts on what is happening right now I will keep to myself -- but I certainly have some. I can say I am sad.
See, this is unlike any other country. You can become italian, french, or whatever, because their nationality is not based on ethnicity. It is a unique characteristic of Israel to be based on racial superiority. Yes, technically you can become Jewish, in a religious sense. But they will never see you as a true jew.
You clearly have not lived in Europe. You will never be perceived as a "true" whatever even in Europe. A citizen? Sure. But at the end of the day even in Europe there remains a concept of ethnicity which an immigrant will never reach.
@@olterigo I live in Europe. I’m not an immigrant but I’m mixed race. Even if racism is absolutely a thing in Europe, it is not institutionalized, and it’s ostracized. This kind of divisive mentality is what we set on to get free of after ww2 and instead Israel is embracing it as its reason of existence. You can say anything but Israel is not secular given this, and it’s not something that should be looked at with respect.
1.im an Israeli and in the colture here a converted jew is just a jew as any other. 2. Anyone can become an israeli citizen if he applies for a citizenship and faces certain criteria (unrelated to ethnicity, stuff like "has good understanding of hebrew"). This is unrelated to the lew of retturn that allows jews from around the world to come to what we, the jews recognize as our national homeland
By the way when he says no one was chopped to pieces he might wanna look at what happened in Rwanda. I’m sorry to report this but there are a lot of other societies who have suffered immensely. And what is the outcome of winning the contest of having suffered the most?
No point. They truly believe they are the only ones in history to have experience something like this. Talk about Congo history and they would shrug their shoulders.
Many societies have suffered immensely but only the Jewish people are a worldwide issue and a scapegoat for other nations for thousands of years and only Judaism as a religion is the root to Christianity and Islam and therefore a religious issue as well.
Jews have suffered for thousands of years. Even though God gave their land back to them,they still never had peace but atleast God has blessed them in such a short period of time
That's what i call classic whataboutism....he conveys his people experience....if you have a problem with that look into a mirror and see what makes you react...
Yeah, “suffering.” Gtfoh with that. Jews ain’t suffering today. They’re doing just fine. Besides, the west game them that land and now we see them persecuting other groups there. Ethnic cleansing that’s been ignored for decades. A truly despicable nation of violent people.
“It’s a Jewish democracy” with half the people under military occupation who are not even Jews. Should those people become Israeli citizens or ethnically cleansed by expulsion or made into a real cohesive state or banutistans or one country with a federation of states and common citizenship?
The guy is kinda wrong a little. If you're Arab citizen of Israel and you want to have your close family to Israel, you can. The guys speaks about the rule that if you're a Jew from a state put of Israel you can claim citizenship of Israel. If you are descendant from Jews abroad you can go to Israel and if proven you can receive citizenship. That's the only right only Jews have in Israel , which others don't have. The Arabs and christians can vote, can marry, can have social security, can go wherever they want. One problem is that Jews and non Jews can't officially marry inside Israel because of stupid rabbinical laws. But if Jews and non Jews are legally married outside of Israel the state would recognize the marriage, although if said couples want to divorce they have to go through Jewish rabbinical courts. Which is actually stupid. Most Israelis hate that shit and want to change it so there's civil unions and the rabbinical nonsense would be thrown out. So that's where laws interact with different populations in Israel. All have the same rights unless we're talking about Jews that weren't descendants of citizens inside Israel providing proof they are of Jewish genealogy - they can then be provided with Israeli citizenship. Also the fact that Jews and non Jews have to marry officially out of state to be lawfully recognized as married couples, which many Jews do considered idiotic and most Jews don't like forcing. Even Cory is refuting "non Jews can't reunite families"
i like your videos because they are so the voice of the people. can you ask more in the Arab towns of the PA and find out how they experience what is happening in Gaza and whether they understand what happened on 10/7?
As a non-jewish European, I think Israel should be primarily a jewish state because it is the only homeland for jews. Just like India is the homeland for hindus, various countries are primarily e.g. buddhist (Thailand etc.) and many many countries are muslim countries. I am not demanding that e.g. Saudi-Arabia should abolish their state religion, and Mecca should be opened to all religions, not just muslims. Similarly I feel jews need their own state.
*_En tant qu’Européen non juif, je pense qu’Israël devrait être avant tout un État juif car c’est la seule patrie des juifs. Tout comme l'Inde est la patrie des hindous, et de nombreux pays sont des pays musulmans_* *_Je n'exige pas que, par exemple, l'Arabie saoudite devrait abolir sa religion d’État . De la même manière, je pense que les Juifs ont besoin de leur propre État_* C'est évident
Israeli here and here's why so many people were offended by this question. If Israel would not be a Jewish state then it would no longer be Israel. The flag, anthem and even the name are all derived from Judaism and most if the population is ethnically Jewish. so suggesting that Israel should not be a Jewish state is the same as suggesting that France shouldn't be a French state or that Japan shouldn't be a Japanese state. Israel is already both a democracy and a Jewish state. That sounds contradictory but it really isn't. Non Jews haves the same right as Jews and there is no law that different between them. HOWEVER, defining Israel as a Jewish state causes a sense of inferiority to non jews (mainly Arabs) who can't relate to the flag or the anthem. Minorities exist in every country and you should treat them with the same rights as any other citizen but changing the identity of the country is asking for too much.
I don't think it should be an offensive question any more than asking France, should France prioritise a humanist values over judeo-christian ones, or asking tunisians if they would like a secular non islamic tunisia. Theocracy isn't good for democracy and jewish theocracy is no exception. I'd argue that this is due to the very nature of using faith to derive identity and national "values" i.e. faith is something that people leap into and trust without necessarily questioning. That's its entire basis, trust in the "unknowable" and an entire subset of axioms. The issue is some of those axioms are dangerous to human well-being and there is no way you can convince a religious person of this, let alone a religious state.
I’m sorry but saying that Israel doesn’t discriminate against minorities is a flat out lie, what about the nation-state law of 2018? Or the nakba law? Or the Hametz law? And these are just a couple of examples
@mwran54 yea I see your point but I still feel like the "founding myth" Of Israel /as zionist state is founded in religion. The idea of a chosen people, favored by God over others. The idea of a promised land, by God. The idea that it's a land without people for a people without a land. The right of return. So many of these notions are largely based on religion which is what makes them such an existential threat to Palestinians, and very hard to reason with.
@@content.creator.portrait Non of the above laws are discriminatory against any minority group. 1. The nation state law is a *deceleration* rather then a law as it can't be enforced, and overall it just claims that Israel is a Jewish state. 2. The nakba law prevents the *governmental funding* of any institution or body that denies the legitimacy of Israel's existence. 3. The Hametz law *allows hospitals to choose* whether or not to restrict the hospital's cafeteria food to be kosher during Passover. and so far it hasn't been enforced.
The blonde lady says Israel is defined as a ‘Jewish Democracy’, a conundrum implicitly denying gentiles equal rights and protection under the law, privileging Jewishness and depriving Christians and moslems of equal status. Israel is an abortion of democracy, a post-WWII error of overcompensation founded in a panic of collapsing British imperialism, designed to sow seeds of violent disharmony in former colonial lands. Like the failed moslem state of Pakistan (a comparison too rarely drawn but entirely apropos) the definition of a state according to a religioethnic identity is contrary to any principle of liberal secular statehood, the modern norm, and particularly carries imperialist ‘divide & conquer’ strategies of control over subject populations to a new level. Instead of expensive military occupation, the British imperialists left it to Israeli Jews and Moslem Pakistanis to police (persecute and drive out) religious and ethnic minorities.
Explain your lies how Christians and Muslims don’t have equal status? Name one Muslim country where non Muslims can govern? You need to work on your ignorance or ancestors!
Keep Israel a Jewish nation. Poland is a Christian Democracy just like other nations. United States used to be a Christian Democracy. We still are in some ways. We use the bible to swear oaths in court and celebrate Christmas and Easter, having no school days on Sat/Sunday. I'm not Protestant Christian as many Americans and still do not feel like a minority here and neither do my Egyptian friends who practice other religions.
The problem is that Israel defining itself as a Jewish state involves more than having Saturdays off. It means any Jew from the world can immigrate but Arabs who were born there can't come back. In other words, it means no equal rights on big things, not just holidays. You can't have a democracy and an apartheid where there are different laws for different people (races, religions, etc).
@@guzmas31they can’t come back because they participated in armed resistance against the Jewish state and we don’t want them back. Jews are indigenous to land and will always be welcomed back home. About the laws, what laws? The laws I know are specifically discriminate Jews only. Marriage laws for example only makes it difficult for Jews to get married and does not discriminate minorities.
@@guzmas31They can gain citizenship in 5 or more years after filing and living in the country. Israel is not unique for this. As the Only Jewish State, it was formed for the Jews to have Safe haven after 2000+ years of persecution.
In what way exactly is Israel a Jewish state? What specific policies make it a Jewish state? What exactly would have to change for it to no longer be a Jewish state?
1) One law that applies equally to all citizens regardless of religion, ethnicity, race, etc. 2) Martial law is not democratic. Israel can never be democratic until it makes peace and ends the occupation
@@RobAKimball “If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.” Golda Meir
First a huge thanks to Corey, it is always amazing to see how far you have taken this and still continue. I don't think people have properly thought it through all the way, or I'm missing the point. The way Corey seems to ask the question is jewish (in what way? halacha? immigration laws? preference of rights? national holidays? ) or democracy (just the voting part? meaning majority rules? if so all the "scare" statistic on demography are showing more religious as years go by and possibly also more arabs compared to secular israeli. Which as years go by would mean democratically the voters would change it to a more religious? "jewish?" state anyway, unless you start changing the immigration laws, and then?!?!?!? ). Besides the "parameters" not being defined, I don't see much of a difference if democracy eventually will lead to the same outcome.?! I don't see a major problem with the statement of "if they don't like it here, then move", since it comes on the back of "they should enjoy the same rights as everyone else" (?!?). All the people coming to Europe, the US, Canada or other western affluent countries, move EXACTLY because they don't like it where they live, or want to pursue what to them seems like a "better life". Not chasing them away, just giving them the option to decide where to live based on how each country works. and sorry this is all I'm currently able to do (like, sub and comment). Do you only ask Israeli citizens or do you still have ask Palestinians as well?
There's just one thing missing in your comment. When someone from Europe moves its the right of return. They don't lose citizenship in either state. When someone Palestinian moves, let's say from the West Bank, they have no citizenship or legal basis by which they would be allowed back. Their own house is fair game. I don't think your comparison is truly fair
not to get into an entire debate about borders and sovereignty, but my understanding was the question was put about Israel (not including gaza/westbank), since the assumption was moving while having an Israeli citizenship. Also the entire "democracy" would be voting (in Israel), and if they don't have Israeli citizenship (which would not be taken away), they wouldn't be able to vote (currently?!?) in Israel ie. the "democracy". So I stand with by my comparison. Also I can tell you from personal experience, that there are countries in Europe (and other parts of the world) that do NOT allow dual citizenship, and therefore a person moving to Israel would indeed loose/have to give up their citizenship. Since my comparison was for people moving TO western countries, I don't know if in those cases people have to give up their citizenship as well. @@fatimaghailan6728
@@utroligte very few countries don't allow dual citizenship and that's not an ethical practise in my opinion. Ok fair point about Israel being the subject of the q but... Quite a bit of israelis don't recognise Palestine as a state and think of it as part of greater Israel which will be reconquered. So I think those people deserve citizenship or a chance at it, given that apparently their land is seen as fair game, just like anyone else. Also idk man I just want people to have peace, to stop being labelled based on their ethnicity, and for Palestinian and Israeli civilians to stop being killed.
@@fatimaghailan6728 Regarding the right of return, I'd like only to point out that Israel was established as a safe haven for Jews after the Holocaust, and its rules of return mirror the German rules of who is considered a Jew (and therefore should be exterminated). The current events only make this claim stronger, as Jews are still being targeted in many countries. Palestinians, as other nationals, don't need a safe haven because nobody is trying to exterminate them (ok, maybe you're one of these people who think that Israel tries to exterminate them, which I claim is completely untrue, but then why would they want to move to the only place that tries to do that do them?)
@@lizberezin2919 I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Why do you think it's untrue that Israel is trying to displace Palestinians fully, erase their culture and them? Why did the IDF target Palestinian churches, the oldest library in Gaza, universities, etc? What is the aim of using AI-generated targets and indiscriminate carpet-bombing, when we know that the IDF is capable of extremely precise weapon use e.g. targeting one apartment in an entire apartment complex? And how does any of what's happening help the hostages, who are allegedly underground? What does bombing what is above ground do for structures that are allegedly deep underground
Hey there .. none of the islamic countries, said that this land only for Muslims.. in thier constitutions it is written that all people have the same rights regardless their religion or ethnicities. Only Isr @ eal ... do that.
@@content.creator.portrait every country in the world gives thier citizens equal rights .. you Can not call your self a country if you did not do that ... Isreal has 2 millions arabs living inside, if you did not give them equal right exactly like other society components they will never feel citizenship.. thus they will keep fighting. So this State will never had peace.
A question with possible too broad interpretations. Since it is too simplified and a people is not just a religion, it would be like asking: what if Armenia were not an Armenian State? (just to give an example)
@@kellenwaters9087 Just to be clear: Israel is a democracy and it is not only for the Jewish people (I am simply going to ignore the disgusting thing that emerges from your comment, unconsciously or consciously, loaded with a horrible prejudice when you ask "for the Jews or for the people?"; ask the Baharies, who were chased to death, where do they feel safe). Israel, a country to freely practice any religion, unlike several other places on the planet, where just because of the religion that a person practices, they would be murdered in just a couple of minutes. Jews? oh yes. Other religious minorities? probably too. To those who practice a majority religion? As seen during the history of the world, they don't care one bit as long as they stay safe.
@@carlos208 Did I say they were not? Seems like you're playing coy by suggesting I didn't include the Jews as part of the people. Let's say this, is democracy in israel only for jews, or is it for EVERYONE? I don't need to dog whistle.
@@carlos208 It's acually the Jews who elevate themselves above the people not the other way round. Victim mentality like that is what has turned the world off of Israel's side and lies
palestinains were allowed to go to lebanon, and that cosued the death and assasins to kill the goverment. then iran came and now lebanon is controled by the terrorists organiztion hezballah@@SuperDflower
The idea of separation of CHURCH and STATE needs to be introduced as something which inevitably leads to discrimination and racism. Religion is a private issue such as bodily autonomy. Once the State becomes involved in your personal life, coercion, force and violence are not far behind, as we have seen during the last few years.
Do you think that in places like the UK, Australia, and the US, for example, they should instigate 7-day work weeks to make sure Christians no longer get State instigated free paid vacations on sundays to practice their religions? Also, should the state mandate a requirement of written permission from vicars and the like for Christians who wish to take days off work for Christmas and easter, for example? ps. the 'weekend' was culturally appropriated from Judaism (aka Shabbat), so you better get rid of weekends in the west! For the sake of church/religion separation, of course.
@@rivkahwhite4882 What I meant to say was that NOT having separation of Church and State leads to discrimination and racism. I live in the USA where the First Amendment of the Constitution states that there will be no law establishing a one State-sponsored religion. Religion is in the realm of the private sector but is given a tax-free status because it is not a for-profit business venture. My understanding is that two days off work per week started less than a hundred years ago with the rise of labor unions and the needs of different faith traditions in a pluralistic society to be accommodated. This idea was driven by business owners who petitioned the government to create a two day week-end for their employees. Since most people don't work for themselves and work for someone else, they can't take days off on a regular basis whenever they wish.
@@ladym1910 But the USA does sponsor one specific religion by creating public holidays for only one of those religions. People of other faiths have to be humiliated by having to prove they are of another faith and that they need different times/days off work to follow their traditions. The source tradition of having a weekend was the Jewish tradition of Shabbat (the 7th day being a day refraining from work). It is written in ancient Jewish texts available for all the world to witness, and it was appropriated by 2 other major world religions. Shabbat has been around for millennia, and was not just invented by labour unions a century ago.
@@rivkahwhite4882 I wouldn't use the word "appropriated" because it means "taking something for one's own use, typically without the owner's permission." The Jewish tradition of refraining from work on one specific day of the week is not "owned" by Jews. It was an example that other faith traditions chose to follow because they liked the example. The labor movement helped broaden that tradition to two days to accommodate different faith traditions for a pluralistic work force. Since the vast majority of the US population is Christian, the official holidays regarding work are based on that tradition and there are other holidays which are not related to religion. I don't know about instances of "humiliation" or proving one's religion at work, in my experience. Maybe others have had different experiences based on individual employers but that is not determined by the government. I wouldn't say that the US is completely compliant with its laws, even though that is the goal and one can make a legal case seeking compliance. For instance, during the time of vaccine mandates in the recent past, most requests for religious exemptions were not accommodated, even after "proof" was provided even though according to US law, one does not have to show proof of one's specific religious beliefs in order to get a requested religious exemption.
@@ladym1910 " It was an example that other faith traditions chose to follow because they liked the example." is 100% appropriation. You can't see how much of Jewish culture, tradition, history and practices were appropriated because the layers of appropriation go back thousands of years. Christians in the US (and other Christian nations) do have the privilege of their traditions never being interrupted, so you are oblivious to the humiliation of, for example, a Jewish student having to prove they are religious to observe Yom Kippur, on years when university exams fall on the date allocated to Yom Kippur in the Hebrew calendar. And are you suggesting that if another religion became the majority (for funsies lets use the example of Islam) in the US, then all the major festivals would be public holidays catering only to Muslims? The arrogance and blindness to privilege in the west are astounding.
@@olllloollllo $3.8b is a penny compared to the intelligence and gains it's gaining in the middle east because of Israel. The US never invest where it will not have a lot of interest in.
@@MaziOsitaOkoye The United States has given Israel more aid than any other nation since World War II, granting it more than $260 billion. This will continue and wars will continue because of Israel unless the American public does something about it. We don't want your intelligence. Fix your country and stop controlling US politics with the Israeli lobby. We need to get rid of lobbies in the US.
You literally saw 1 or 2 that were actually hateful. This is called cherry picking, which I feel like is dishonest, especially in a format such as this video.
This hate is everywhere , Israelis in streets , in social media and in their comments and videos , the kids in school , we saw their hate everywhere not just 1 or 2 people @@barakingplayz5581
Could you imagine if there were an officially Aryan state somewhere in Scandinavia, only for people who could prove Aryan ancestry? People would find it racist and messed up.
Aryans are from India. There is no such thing as white @ryan’s just one of a dol phs pathological lies. If there is, let’s see your documentation? By the way, there are over 50 white majority countries!
Please, have the dignity to shut up. Your government murdered twenty thousand innocents, which already lived in a cage befor the 7th of October... The world is finally waking up, but politicians represent the old (corrupted) class
He said he's "having a really hard time" in an article a few weeks ago regarding returning to the West Bank. It's titled: "An Israeli Academic Spent a Decade Trying to Understand Palestinians. He Now Believes Hope for Peace Is Bleak"
well you'll only recive 1 answer to this question: this is a jewish state not an arab state not a christan state and theres no reason for us to let none jewish immigrints in like other countries like the usa or the netherlands have the right to stop letting people migrate into them
@@Lid_il The problem there is that you are talking about an ethno religion. So being Jewish is not like any other religion where you can just convert and become the thing. And the other thing is that Muslims who were born in Israel don't get the right of return.
@@tonedowne 1. Anyone can convert to Judaism. 2. If they were born in Israel, they already have Israeli citizenship. So, it isn't clear why they should get the right of return.
@@olterigo Anyone can convert to Judaism, but that doesn’t necessarily make them Jewish. Like anyone can become an Anglican, but it doesn’t make them English. Palestinians literally do not have the right to return. Once they leave it’s a done deal, they can never come back, even to visit. So even an old lady born in Tel Aviv before the creation of Israel, who has been removed from Israel to live in a refugee camp in Gaza, can never return, not only to Israel, but to Gaza as well. And the same for her descendants. It’s ethnic cleansing
3:00 Turkey?? Really?? Does this person think Turkey is an islamic state? We are a secular nation and one of the only countries that has secularism embedded in its constitution with a clause that states it can’t be removed. We are literally making fun of islam at a bar right now. Learn about the world before judging lmao.
Fun fact.... Over 50% of the israelis in this video are the decendents of european converts and have ZERO jewish ancestry. Not only that, but many of them are athiests aswell.....so they are neither jewish by race or by faith....atleast their forefathers practised judaism, even though they werent specifically jews. These people basically have ZERO affiliation with israel. I have a suggestion for your next video, it will probably be the most controversial one yet... Randomly choose 10 israeli jews and 10 palestinians and do a dna test on them and then show the results of who has the most cananite dna. This will give us all an insight of who has a higher degree of heritage to the land. I guatrantee this will definitely create a new wave of realisation. And your video will probably go viral.
Majority Jevvish groups trace their ancestry to the levant/ middle east including those that came from Europe. Indigenity comes from your cultural identity not your DNA. Jevvs came from J(ew)dea/the land of Israel.
After hearing from the last gentleman "No one was chopped up into pieces anywhere else but us" triggered something I always wanted to say. It's almost the holocaust was used as a reason to justify anything now. However, not only Jews were massacred in Germany controlled places, there were many other groups for example, the Chinese being systematically tortured and eliminated in their home country. We can always turn this into a competition but the point is, the whole world was suffering 80 years ago, whatever gave you right to use that against Palestinians is crazy
I don't understand this question actually 🤔 it's like asking an Italian "what if Italy was only a democracy and not an Italian country?!" I don't get it... Of course most of nations have other ethnicities among themselves but that doesn't change the nationality of the country
What you don't know is that the jews are the minority in the land so it should be an Arab Democracy if like Italy. The only way for it to be Jewish Democracy is if they kill/Expell the majority, which is what they did.
I'm Egyptian used to be Muslim and understand the necessary of being jewesh state.. Arabs and Jews have the same rights except one thing they can't migrated with large numbers.. the majority should be Jews all the time.. the last man clarified it totally with simple logic if Muslims are the majority that means another holocaust.. I agree with him .. God bless your nation 🇪🇬💙🇮🇱
B*llshit. Jews were not allowed to enter Jerusalem for 600 years under Byzantium - the Muslims allowed them back in. When Jews were being persecuted and inquisitioned all over Europe they escaped to Islamic lands. Jews lived in safety under the Muslim Ottoman empire. By your logic then all these Jews would have been holocausted because Muslims were the majority. Silly fool.
It already is more a democracy than a jewish state. If it were a jewish state, 1, the Sabbath would be enforced by all in Israel. 2, mt Zion would not have a mosque and Israel would have control of this holy mountain. That would be the bare minimum.
The question is indeed not specific, it's not clear what is a Jewish democracy vs another type of democracy. I do understand that many Israeli Arabs are upset that the flag, anthem, etc. are Jewish and do not represent them. I also feel that it's easy to change. It's easy to add another section to the anthem that would represent the local Arab population, or the fact that we all live here together now. Maybe the Arab MPs can do something in the Knesset for that? They never actually address things that could bring us together, it feels that on both sides it's the things that move us apart that are done.
Are you talking anthems and flags? Check out what is happening in the West Bank now. Did you see that Chabad banner in a window of a bombed out building in Gaza? Smh.
Interviewer - "why can't Israel be democracy and not Jewish state" Guy-"it would be better that way" Interviewer-"with immigration of people who are not jews? " I knew that's exactly where it's going, and that's one of reasons Israel should be a Jewish state...The old guys were wise enough not to intertain a leftists.
They were wise enough, because they knew that they wouldn't be able to counter the unavoidable arguments, having to go down a discussion where they would unavoidably end up sounding like the people they don't want to become.
@@shmuelaryehkoltov241 leftists anywhere are sellout creatures, they would happily destroy countries and societies for their own evil lunacy. The is nothing good anyone can get talking with leftists, why even bother talking to them to beggin with,that's why old guys didn't intertain him and no Israelis or any one in any country should intertain leftists.
“Are you from breaking the silence?” Holy smokes, that’s super specific
Probably, meant those that have exposed mistreatment of Arabs by the IDF and other Israeli's in general, but that was his first thought.
After a quick search oops it's an NGO rather than an older documentary.
Clip from Wiki:
'Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and some other senior political figures have repeatedly criticised the organization.[5] His government tried to dissuade other governments from providing any funding to it. Netanyahu strongly criticised BtS in a speech to the Knesset in early 2015, and late in the year, the Education Minister proposed a bill blocking its speakers from state schools. At the same time, some senior figures in the Israeli defense and security establishment have defended the NGO. For instance, General Amiram Levin said in 2015 that "Breaking the Silence strengthens the IDF and its morality."[6]'
And recently we have seen the IDF vandalising a shop and filming it on YT.
ua-cam.com/video/w9vpaTRv_64/v-deo.html - only jews walk here
ua-cam.com/video/Pfo-BDuiCHw/v-deo.html - pushing a guy on wheel chair
shit feels like its straight out of the pianist
I think not many people realize that Jewish isn't just a religion, it is also an ethnicity as well.
And therein lies the issue. Theocracies have a bit of wiggle room in them because people can convert, or if the theocratic power is stable enough, it can tolerate minority faiths. But when ethnicity is linked to religion, it inevitably gets bogged down in racism, from all directions.
Israel is an ethno-state
Not really. Different heritages and widely differing cultural interpretations do not make for a single ethnicity.
I'm just going on the first dictionary definition I found for the word.
@@dongkhamet1351 To be Jewish you must be born to a Jewish mother. Therefore it's an ethnicity.
@@tonedowne or a cult.
As a non-Jew living in Israel, I have no issues with the fact that Israel is a Jewish state 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Thank you for continuing the project even when views are down! Please don't let that discourage you. Views were down before and they will go up again
The truth is that the media is deceptive. For years, Israel has been bullying the Palestinians, killing them, arresting them, stealing their homes, and committing crimes against their children.
But when Palestine responds to all this persecution, and to the continued settlement of their lands, they become terrorists. Can you imagine becoming a terrorist because you defended your land and your home against your tormentors?!
The truth is that your taxes have been going to support this for years! You can deny Freemasonry, but the matter is crystal clear. While America is very slow in any reaction to any real problems and even against the Russian invasion, it did not take a moment to support Israel from the first day, because America, despite being the largest puppet country, is being manipulated by hidden hands.
is sad that there were civilian casualties, but whoever looks honestly knows that Israel itself is more Nazi than Hitler, but unlike him, the media and the rest of the countries support it because it is not against them, but against innocent people whose land was occupied, and not only that, but Israel invents lies and excuses, as well as stealing cultures. Palestine and all its neighboring countries, they are thieves
You can continue to believe what you want, but the truth remains one and clear, which is that those who are under occupation have the right to defend themselves.
I ask my Allah to guide everyone to the right path
No god but Allah
Islam way for peace and real monotheist
Search about the truth with honest heart.
25k in 3 days is bad viewership 😮
@@williamwood2913 Do you have any clue how expensive these are to make? I was inspired by Corey to do my own street interviews and let me tell you, I respect him 1000x more after that. I didn't have to travel much or pay a translator, or go through security checkpoints and do all kinds of paperwork. Despite all that it was tiring, and lonely (expect a rejection rate of 99%)
Awesome videos, a real window into the views of people in that area.
Your videos are very very important. Please dont stop making them!
This will never end
end what? what to do expect that it will not be a jewish state after what happend in nazi germany?! oh u know nothing why even comment
@@uplaymedaltop5003 they meant the oppression. It will never end. Israelis always prioritize their own lives over others', and use the holocaust as an excuse to the mass murdering of palestinians for nearly 8 decades, which is also disrespectful to those who suffered and died slowly during the holocaust. Not only that, but they deny the Nakba in 1948 -- but God forbid you deny the holocaust!
Israelis always want to fight .. I don't get it why? why they can't just give everyone equal rights like all normal countries @@uplaymedaltop5003
This idiot... @@uplaymedaltop5003
@@uplaymedaltop5003 I wonder why the statement "this will never end" prompts the question "end what" and "what do you expect ... after what happened in nazi germany" The "end" seems to an end of the Israel-Palestine conflict, (which seems unlikely).
Is the purpose of the (unending) conflict then, from the Israeli point of view, to preserve a Jewish state and a permanent conflict with Palestine as a memorial to the victims of nazi germany?
OK. There is no obligation on people to practice "liberty, equality, and fraternity", or to guarantee the "right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", if they collectively decide they don't want to.
Thanks!
Such a brilliant concept to open dialogue and understanding of viewpoints.
The truth is that the media is deceptive. For years, Israel has been bullying the Palestinians, killing them, arresting them, stealing their homes, and committing crimes against their children.
But when Palestine responds to all this persecution, and to the continued settlement of their lands, they become terrorists. Can you imagine becoming a terrorist because you defended your land and your home against your tormentors?!
The truth is that your taxes have been going to support this for years! You can deny Freemasonry, but the matter is crystal clear. While America is very slow in any reaction to any real problems and even against the Russian invasion, it did not take a moment to support Israel from the first day, because America, despite being the largest puppet country, is being manipulated by hidden hands.
is sad that there were civilian casualties, but whoever looks honestly knows that Israel itself is more Nazi than Hitler, but unlike him, the media and the rest of the countries support it because it is not against them, but against innocent people whose land was occupied, and not only that, but Israel invents lies and excuses, as well as stealing cultures. Palestine and all its neighboring countries, they are thieves
You can continue to believe what you want, but the truth remains one and clear, which is that those who are under occupation have the right to defend themselves.
I ask my Allah to guide everyone to the right path
No god but Allah
Islam way for peace and real monotheist
Search about the truth with honest heart.
"None else was chopped into pieces except for us"
Lost for words here really
Catholics experienced that on mass in Ireland. I don't forget either.
They’ve been doing it to Palestinians for almost a century now. But those people don’t matter to Zionists.
@@user-xd6nc6rg7b Dude the Palestinians have been murdering everyone around them for thousands of years before that. Your talking about the army that Xerces controlled. Arabs and Isreali's lived in the same spot forever the only thing that changed is a border was placed their. It's the same people who fight for and against the Israeli state.
You just care about it because you believe what feminists tell you to believe which is western culture is evil. When the fact is we ended slavery and Arabs still hold slaves today.
i love how nobody questions why the future "palestinian state" has to be free of jews!!!
Also it will most likely be a Sharia law state ,the world is asking for democracy only in Israel
He has asked that question.
As someone from America, I like watching your videos. You talk to anyone who is willing to talk. You ask some tough questions and it's interesting to see the everyday response from Jews, Arabs, Christians. I think your doing humanity a good service. Especially with what happened with Israel and what's going on in gaza
It's also interesting seeing the difference in discourse is between the Palestinians and Israelis. The Israelis seem to have logical and civilized responses, most of the time. On the other hand, the Palestinians answer with hate and want separation with no way of coexisting, most of the time. You can really see the divide
@@midwesthoodrat this is true. Really, Israel is the only real democracy in the mideast. If I had to go to the mideast, best believe Israel would be my top pick in a heartbeat. It's one of the few places I'd feel safe in. I'm not Muslim or Jewish.. I was raised Christian and of course that area is sacred to Christians as well.
@@zhulyi i definitely don't agree with that at all. We are ALL made in God's image, period. End of story. We are all God's chosen, Jew or Gentile. No religion gives anyone any right to claim they are superior to anyone. Christians,Jews, Muslims, or anyone else. That kind of mentality can rub people the wrong way. I don't think Christians are superior to non Christians. Ever faith has its good apples and bad apples. I'm cool with anyone of any faith, as long as they are respectful in return
@@zhulyi America has been very generous to Israel all these years. We're the ones who give them all this money. Do they think they are superior to non Jewish Americans too? I am curious 🤔🤨 on that? A country that is mostly Christian, being o so nice. Who's asking who for help?
@@midwesthoodrat Have you considered why one group, the one whose land is dispossessed, the one whose are being bombed daily in Gaza and killed by land stealers in the occupied West Bank, might not have the views as the illegal occupiers and those who benefit from an apartheid state? If Israel would withdraw to the 1967 borders, a settlement of the conflict can begin.
As an israeli with Jewish origins i fully support separation between religion and state. Israel should become a state for jews, arab christians, arab muslims, druze and other minorities with equal rights for all under israeli nationality identity, official language remaining Hebrew and abolishing the current law of return. Am israel hai 🇮🇱❤️
Good to see someon with an open heart and mind like you...
I do think there should be a seperation between religon and the state, so for example every city should choose wether it wants to have public transportation on shabbat. But however the law of return? Since the war started and I've seen the worlwide antisemetisim, I've started thinking it's better for jews to come here. Israel was established as an escape for jews from worldwide antisemetisim 75 years ago, and it seems like jews are still not safe when people literaly scream in their protests to "gas the jews" or when universities in america think that supporting the genocide of the jews "depends on the context" so yeah..
Traitor
If it’s not Jewish anymore than what’s the point? Next morning you wake up with an Islamist Arab president that will mince you.
All the citizens have an equal rights. There no any problem with Jewish state.
That last guy really demonstrates the victim mentality of many Jews, especially in Israel. “No one was chopped up into pieces like us before”, uhhh yea actually, a lot of people have been discriminated against in history, and to this day. That doesn’t make it ok to turn around and discriminate against someone else. It’s basically the same mentality a parent being abusive due to being abused as a child.
Many people thru out history have suffered horrendously, just read Bartolomé de Las Casas account on how the conquistadors basically exterminated entire tribes in MesoAmerica, the native population decreased by almost 80%!! unfortunately humans in general are capable of horrific acts
The truth is that the media is deceptive. For years, Israel has been bullying the Palestinians, killing them, arresting them, stealing their homes, and committing crimes against their children.
But when Palestine responds to all this persecution, and to the continued settlement of their lands, they become terrorists. Can you imagine becoming a terrorist because you defended your land and your home against your tormentors?!
The truth is that your taxes have been going to support this for years! You can deny Freemasonry, but the matter is crystal clear. While America is very slow in any reaction to any real problems and even against the Russian invasion, it did not take a moment to support Israel from the first day, because America, despite being the largest puppet country, is being manipulated by hidden hands.
is sad that there were civilian casualties, but whoever looks honestly knows that Israel itself is more Nazi than Hitler, but unlike him, the media and the rest of the countries support it because it is not against them, but against innocent people whose land was occupied, and not only that, but Israel invents lies and excuses, as well as stealing cultures. Palestine and all its neighboring countries, they are thieves
You can continue to believe what you want, but the truth remains one and clear, which is that those who are under occupation have the right to defend themselves.
I ask my Allah to guide everyone to the right path
No god but Allah
Islam way for peace and real monotheist
Search about the truth with honest heart.
I don't think you understand. Sure his wording was as if others haven't experienced genocide, lets put that aside for a moment because I think he would agree to this after seeing photos of Cambodian genocide for example. But his point, and this is important, is that the necessity of the Jewish Democratic State remaining Jewish is a historical necessity that is just as relevant today.
Nobody saved us from the horrors of the Russian pogroms, the middle eastern pogroms, the Holocaust, and nobody would save us if this happened again tomorrow - the UN as a dysfunctional Orwellian nightmare.
There will always be a need for the Jewish people to be self-determined in their homeland, at least we can stand on our own two feet and defend ourselves, a basic right that nobody even acknowledges they have in every other nation in the world (apart from Kurds, Tibetans etc).
@@interestingyoutubechannel1 and Israel supports and fights for the self-determination of the Kurdish people. They are brothers.
@@michaelneufeld4515 Israel supports the Kurds in northern Iraq region and Syrian region, but it's more complicated in Turkey (Kurds in Turkey live under Erdogan's fascism, he also considers Israel an enemy). And the Kurds in Iran are helpless, not much Israel can do, they live under the fascist ayatollah regime there.
Israel also supports all the other oppressed ethnic & religious minorities that were victims of genocide by daesh. Israel supports the Yazidis, the Assyrians etc.
I did make a bit of a contribution and haven't before, so I hope that is encouraging. What you do is important, and I send blessings and respect.
"We're Jewish, therefore Israel needs to be a Jewish state!" - I hate this way of thinking. We were Jews before 1948 as well, we don't stop being Jewish because of Israel's identity as a state. And if all that define us as being Jews is how we define our state, then it's really looking bad for us.
It’s for protection
@@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440 not related to what I stated. Our identity as being Jews is not bound to the identity of the state and should not be used as an excuse to identify the state in a certain way, particularly not when we can't agree on what we mean when we talk about something being "Jewish".
@@shmuelaryehkoltov241 Half the Jews live in Israel. The Jews have been ethnically cleansed out of Europe and the Middle East and now USA and Israel are the only two places with substantial Jewish populations. Not supporting Israel means you take for granted half the Jewish population.
@@shmuelaryehkoltov241 A personal opinion. Until israel wants to consider itself a "jewish state" there's no peace. It would work if the State were found in Sahara, far away from another population But Palestinians consider all the land as theirs too, meaning they feel related to it. They have their history in the land too. That's why it can't work and the establishment of a palestinian state in '67 borders and Jerusalem divided will lead to a civil war. The only solution is to let religion and culture in the past as it should be, and be both opened and establishing a secular binational country.
no, its for protection and reason. israel established by zionists who were hungry for protaction and for that land. the reason why even israel comes as an idea was to protect jews esp after what happend in nazi germani so no u can hate this kind of thinkinig way. but its the sad truth. if u were a jewish human and u looked around u at the world and looked at some of the past u would think way diffrently and will agree with this man
"No one was chopped to pieces except us" (during WWII by Germans) he says. Did he forget about the massacre of Slavs on the Eastern Front? What about the communists, Roma, the disabled and other enemies of the state?
Jews think they’re gods special people. All other groups don’t count to them.
@@kellenwaters9087 you seem to speak for all jewish people. Please tell me more about these jewish people whom you know so well
Victim mentality, the truth is Israel belongs to all. Muslims Christian’s and Jews alike.
Leopold from Belgium caused estimated 10 million Congolese death. But then they are blacks and not jews...
No one forgets about them. Jews were systematically targeted and murdered not only by the Germans but by their collaborators who were too happy to kill Jews, even before any German occupation. The Jews then suffered under Marxists as well.
To suggest that israel will be just democratic without the "jewish state" you need to ignore history of persecution that Jews faced and still facing today. So theoretically its sounds good but one of the biggest reasons israel created is to be a home for the jewish people. This question remind me of "why cant we just live in peace without borders and divided groups". Its sounds good in theory but history and human nature wont allow it
The Jews are literally acting out what you’re describing. The Jews are no a special case throughout history. Many groups of people have found themselves oppressed (Palestinians). The Jews are doing well in Europe and America. You make it sound like they’re being persecuted today, yet all I see is wealthy Jews in positions of power. Meanwhile, they’re committing ethnic cleansing. No excuse for any of that.
Check who is pushing open borders throughout the west. Just saying. I know, Israel is different. Human nature is the go-to justification for atrocity. If you honestly study Israel's history as a modern state, there is only one pattern to recognize. Seeing it in the other is a choice.
@@dsm5d723 i actually didnt understand you, one thing i think i got right is that you think that "the evil zionists" are responsible for the open borders of the west (correct me if im wrong). There is literally zero israeli intrest in that. We in Israel actually respect communities that want to keep their values, we live that struggle.
I said human nature in the context of that people will never co exist 100% without wars and not even close. We are animals in the end. Didnt try to justify anything, thats you putting words in my mouth
Go have your state somewhere else. You can't and you WON'T take someone else's. The victimhood doesn't justify it. Stop milking that cow 😏
@@Bdalak The Zionist-Globalist differentiation is a subtle aspect of the reality of the world that I have nobody to discuss with. The post-WWII world of US empire, technocracy and intel agency control, Eisenhower's MIC, was established in parallel with Israel. Yet Soros is a real ideologue, he despises Israel for wanting to maintain what you speak of. The obvious overlap of WEF globalists, who I would pin the open borders, cheap replacement labor strategy in the west on aren't necessarily "the evil Zionists," but are they in any way opposed to the eventual establishment of a greater Israel? A Palestinian state, and not more bad faith hot air? Ask Greta. You weren't expecting such subtlety, were you?
Look HARD in the mirror and ask yourself why Pfizer is now responsible for jabbing "your" population with mRNA vaccines? Keep those values real close to your identity. I didn't put the poison in your system. Go hold those people accountable, lest your find they are YOU.
Why is a Jewish state a problem while an. Arab state or Islamic state is not?
i've seen this argument so many times and every time it's dumb, 1 countries converted to islam millennia ago by saying "why have muslim majority nations" your just asking why have religion in the first place secondly the basis for those countries isn't their ethnicity, like kuwait wasn't formed because the Kuwaitis said we cannot coexist with other people and need to be an overwhelming majority at minimum which is the basis of zionism and by extension the state of israel
@@alexjost9890 what do you mean? Did Israelis say they cannot coexist with other people? You have countries that call themselves Arab republic or Islamic republic, yet somehow it is accepted? Here is a news flash for you, religion is tied to ethnicity in those countries, if a kuwaiti converts from Islam to another religion he or she loses their civic rights or may even face death.
There would be no problem or there would be a whole lot less of any problems, if they would just coexist. Like other countries do. Not trying to encroach and take other peoples homes and land. You don’t see Sweden trying to take parts of Finland.
@@SuperDflower I agree with that, but the question problem is why are people against the idea of a “ Jewish State”?
@@mikeylejan8849 yt deleted my comment but i said kuwait is 1 of only 2 gulf countries to have a native christian population 2 if u think non one has a problem with the islamic republic of iran then idk what to tell u 3 by your logic there shouldn't the eu, 4 i gave u the ideological basis for zionism which was not coexistence which served as the blueprint and basis for the state of israel 5 you're going on an idea that the worlds issue is simply in the existence of a jewish state which is naive and ignorant 6 if u actually want a country to compare to israel i'd suggest looking at the history of either Liberia or Australia
Corey always finds the most random people but somehow it represents a wide array of opinions.
I am also a Israeli jew and I think it should become just a democracy. I think they should actually keep the right of return law, but just lose the official definition of "Jewish State", who needs that?
All the religious laws should be abolished IMO and make it a Jewish and Arab state officially which is what it is... this is seperate from the palestinian issue
And Israeli Supreme Court will immediately dismantle the Law of Return, and welcome in the millions of Arabs claiming the right of return from all around - the Palestinians in Lebanon and Jordan.
I don’t see the problem with separating you from the Palestinians… jewish people should have their own state with their own identity. Currently all the citizens get equal rights so why not keeping it that way? A Jewish state with equal rights to everyone. “Just a democracy” will completely dispose what Israel is all about. A home for the Jewish people to feel safe.
@@chef3281the problems is Jews want to live in the West Bank and Arabs want to live in Israel
Interesting. Thanks. I feel that this is a global event that matters so I need to understand it as much as possible. It took me a while to have any grasp of the motivation behind the need for a ‘Jewish state’, which I now see as an important act of peaceful resistance for many - a way of saying ‘we are here and you will not force us to convert under threat of death or expulsion’; then I read your comment and I wonder how you see this.. do you have a different form of resistance to the sadistic and murderous ideology of Oct 7? For wiw I would have agreed with you before Oct 7 but find myself thinking ‘fair enough’ of the old guy post Oct 7. I still cannot believe what was done on that day, nor the betrayal of so much media in not broadcasting interviews with the returned hostages and other victims and witnesses of Oct 7. This event has changed my established voting habits as I cannot vote for a party that expresses one-sided empathy and conflates the Palestinian cause with the cause of Aboriginal Australians which I believe, after careful reading, has more in common with the Jewish cause than the Palestinian one). But you are, of course, welcome to criticise anything you understand to be factually incorrect; or have any other objection you to, as it’s your reality, not mine.
@@chef3281 As a survivor of a terror attack in 2016 I've been a persistent leftist and pro palestinian demonstrator, but after Oct 7th my views have turned on their heads. I feel like I've been looking at the whole situation very superficially my entire life. I think all the religious and right leaning laws which exclude my Arab brothers citizens of israel, Druze, and Bedouin brothers etc - cause more harm than good and are racist. I think if we actually make a "concession" of saying you know what this isn't a Jewish State by defintion, but still, jews, being a persecuted minority with unique history should have continued right of return to this land regardless of the defintion. I just think it's anyways not a "jewish state" and there's a contradiction between it being fully democratic and jewish. This - makes people call us "ethnostate", which is factually false on the ground, in reality, but this label is derived from a somewhat misleading definition.
So that all citizens of Israel can unite against terrorism and for the cause of a secure Israel - I believe the need to call it "jewish" defeats the purpose. I believe both sides will have to make big concessions and this is one of them... but I do not believe in a one state solution AT ALL, as your comment suggests. I do not believe there's any logic in the palestinian diaspora's right of return claims, or think any palestinian should be able to become an israeli citizen, nor would they want that. I think there has to be a more united Israel, which is more just and fair towards Druze, Arabs, Bedouins and Christians who ARE interested in taking part in Israeli society, some of them serve in the military in combat even but still don't get treated with the respect and love they deserve (on the broader social level, within military units I'm sure there is full equality and brotherhood)
I loved the smile of the woman (blondie) who said we need to separate religion and state. As long as religious fanatics and terrorists have political influence it will be hard to achieve peace.
You do realize that it was religious fanatics that created the state of Israel in the first place.
And it has been run by religious fanatics ever since it's founding, similar to Iran after the 1979 revolution.
The entire idea and project that is Israel came from fanatics that held a certain ideology .
Without that fanatical ideology and those behind it Israel would have never been.
In order to achieve piece that ideology needs to be dissolved from people's minds.
The land should be made whole again, those that were displaced from it made a part of it again and together with the people that are there now they should create a new nation that is neither Jewish nor Muslim.
With a 2 party system, similar to that of the US.
Where they have to work together to have a functioning country.
No dominance, only cooperation.
Anything else will only lead to the same result that has been for the past 80 years.
We appreciate you. Thank you for your hard work ❤
The truth is that the media is deceptive. For years, Israel has been bullying the Palestinians, killing them, arresting them, stealing their homes, and committing crimes against their children.
But when Palestine responds to all this persecution, and to the continued settlement of their lands, they become terrorists. Can you imagine becoming a terrorist because you defended your land and your home against your tormentors?!
The truth is that your taxes have been going to support this for years! You can deny Freemasonry, but the matter is crystal clear. While America is very slow in any reaction to any real problems and even against the Russian invasion, it did not take a moment to support Israel from the first day, because America, despite being the largest puppet country, is being manipulated by hidden hands.
is sad that there were civilian casualties, but whoever looks honestly knows that Israel itself is more Nazi than Hitler, but unlike him, the media and the rest of the countries support it because it is not against them, but against innocent people whose land was occupied, and not only that, but Israel invents lies and excuses, as well as stealing cultures. Palestine and all its neighboring countries, they are thieves
You can continue to believe what you want, but the truth remains one and clear, which is that those who are under occupation have the right to defend themselves.
I ask my Allah to guide everyone to the right path
No god but Allah
Islam way for peace and real monotheist
Search about the truth with honest heart.
The framing on this one was really good. Great job!
@mwran54 The main reason we got for the objection is to protect themselves from prosecution. I believe this is the main thing Israelis care about.
Hello from Brazil. Keep on going, your videos are very good material.
It already is both! Why does this question get asked to the only Jevvish nation?!
Because the Jewish nation is a Jewish nation and not subjected to "Multiculturalism"
Do you really not know or are you playing dumb
It's not though
Search up the Jewish nation state law in 2018
@@amrelemary338 It is Jevvish based on its' nature such as giving Jevvs the right to self determination in their homeland. Not that it is only for Jevvs.
When a country only applies Democracy to its Jewish population, it is not democratic.
And this question is asked to every Country which claims to be democratic when it isn't.
@@anthonyr963 not really their homeland that's like saying the crusades were giving Christians the right of self determination in their homeland but sure let's ignore that
Let's talk about the return law
Corey we support youuu keep going on with your videos 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
The world has shown that we need one Jewish state. Why is that a problem as long as non-Jews aren't legally discriminated against?
Well hurry up and get started on that new reality. At the moment, look at what’s happening.
@@SuperDflower
Within the borders of Jewish controlled Israel. The West Bank and Gaza are their own entities.
Yup, you can be secular and democratic while being a Jewish state. I wonder why people don't get it?
they are being discriminated. specially Arabs, you need to look at the current situation and you will find out that they can't even speak a word about their family's who were separate in 1948 and they expelled to Gaza and now they getting murder and a lot of them are censored
@@oussamafataicha2987
True about that. But that is more about the country run by a far right government during a time of war. War time actions can bring about lots of bad decisions, like America interning Japanese Americans.
Hopefully that doesn't last for long, and hopefully a more moderate government is chosen soon, although that doesn't usually happen in extreme times like Israel is in now.
A secular democracy with human rights to all
When groups operate in their own self interest and prove to have strong in-group preferences to the exclusion of other groups, impossible.
And this is human nature and cannot be removed - it is an innate and inherent part of our humanity. This means a natural ruler rises above the rest, or a hierarchy of rulers in a state of factionalism against one another. We see this in every liberal democracy. The only way to prevent this is to align a nation along a definable identity shared by the people and which is tied to a sense of kinship in a common origin, history, shared traditions and values.
Without this you have people who rise to the top as the winners who bring their group with them, or those left behind believing in the flawed worldview of their system of governance - and nothing in between.
Already is
@@Azzury.If that's true then why is Israel for the Jews and Europe for everybody
@@universome511? What does that even mean? Israel is also for everybody all its citizens have equal rights regardless of religion
@@universome511Europe is made up of nation states that have established national identities and languages. Even people who migrate their are expected to become part of the nation (and even then there is strong backlash and nativist sentiment). Israel has been in a position where it’s faved extreme hostility from its neighbors, and that added with the historic experience of the Jewish people makes demographic concerns something extra sensitive over there
Strange nones answered "Because to defend ouerselves like jews, it must be a jewish state"
Because it has nothing to do with defence. That's just what they say to the west.
This is one of answers I was expecting
Not really strange. Once you say the state is no longer Jewish, the Leftist Supreme Court will allow anyone and everyone to immigrate and receive citizenship. And once that happens - Jewish majority will be lost. And we, Jews, have lived long enough without a Jewish majority to know what it means. So, that's the right answer.
I always appreciated your work.
They love to be jews as a badge but, they live as seculars!
And that's How you can see if someone is fighting for truth or fighting for superiority & ego.
22 failed a r ab states , all cleansed out of a million j e ws and still the m u z talks about democracy and squeels like a jelous pig at the tiny j e w ish state..... because its not algeria or yemen or syria..... keep crying
U don’t need to believe to be Jewish😂😂
This is such an important project.
Corey,, you are a Mensch. Please keep going.
Achmet , your previous comments expose you.
5:45 im agree with that
Imagine someone asking Germans if Germany should be a democracy instead of a German democracy.
Asking French if France should be a democracy instead of a French democracy.
Asking Irish if Ireland should be a democracy instead of Irish democracy.
Asking Polish if Poland should be a democracy instead of a Polish democracy.
dingus those are legit Qs
@@raylax7056
Name the other countries people have asked?
But those countries are just democracies, so your question is the wrong way around.
You would have to ask, instead being just a democracy, should there be German democracy instead?
And I think we all know the type of person who would answer yes to that question.
Ask the Germans if Germany is for Germans.
Ask the French if France is for the French.
Ask the Irish if Ireland is for the Irish.
Ask the Polish if Poland is for the Polish.
People in the first three nations will probably tell you that you are racist simply for asking, and then bewilderedly claim that anyone can be German, Irish, or French.
@@tonedowne lol the official language is not German? Don’t they have a German national anthem? Don’t they require kids to learn the history of the Germans? Don’t they have German culture?
I am a Ugandan and believe Israel should continue being a Jewish state just like their are many Islamists states
The grumpy old men remind me of Greeks, except the Greeks drink, smoke and swear more!!
Grumpy old men in a meet up are the same everywhere I believe.
@@jacobrodriguez1150 How are you doing?
@@jacobrodriguez1150 Is that Teddy? What a great idea, he loved animals and conservation.
I live in Israel & I have many Arab friends. Life isn't difficult for them. They have it very good & they will be the first to admit it. They have no restrictions practicing their religion & they have all the same rights, in fact they have more privilege because they are exempt from army service. It's because Israel is a Jewish state they have it so good.
shut up, bullshitter. F*ck your n@zi ethnojewish state
@@williamblake5289@corey gil shuster
There you go! Got your answer?
You just proved why Israel is an apartheid state. Two different laws based on ethnicity. No other country has such laws. And the reason arabs don't serve in military is because the state of Israel don't trust them, apartheid!!
But when asked in an interview in another episode, most of the Arabs said they felt lesser than Jewish and were often treated differently? Maybe you could ask them how they really feel without putting words in their mouth. That would be interesting.
what makes you think not allowing people to fight for their country is a good thing? that doesn't sound to me like the same rights at all.
Whoever asked this question understands a thing or two about " EQUAL RIGHTS "
Respect for the brave soul that said it " would make us better "
It's hard to be so brave in that situation, apparently. Generational trauma probably plays a role, but man it sure does suck how often a social group gets mistreated and then passes it on. Not universally thankfully: Northern Ireland and South Africa are heartening examples of how to be better. But this video was mostly heartbreaking; so much, "HELL YEAH ETHNONATIONALISM!" 😭😭
There is one practical solution that has proven itself time and again: One state , w/ complete separation of state and religion
Which will immediately be flooded by Muslim immigrants who will also pretty soon will want it to be an Islamic country. Thanks, but no thanks.
Israelis equate neutrality to antisemitism. It's either a Jewish state or you hate us.
I'm Christian from Israel and I think what many foreigner don't realize is that Israel being a "Jewish state" preserves secular society and safe guards it from Islamism and radical influences. It's a secular democracy BECAUSE it's a Jewish (and not Muslim) state. Just ask my Maronite brothers in Lebanon.
Did you not hear that man who basically said fuck the world. You don’t consider that to be radical? The capacity for denial is beyond belief
@@SuperDflower Who are you referring to?
Not even other Christians in Lebanon like your “Maronite” brothers. Y’all committed crime in Lebanon that no Lebanese, Muslim or Christian, will ever forget. Gtfoh!
@LukaKarra Totally agree... Lebanon is the exact use case I thought when he asked its question...
@@HDracerdon't agree with you. We have to be first of all Jew state and then democratic state. De-facto the Christians and Muslims have the same rights as jews, and that is possible because the jews garantee that.
Great question!
If Israel is to remain a Jewish state, the two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict is inevitable because you can't legitimately expect the Arabs from Gaza and the West Bank (Judea and Samaria if you wish) to integrate in a state in which they wouldn't be nominally equal.
there is already a "two state solution". Jordan is palestine. Look it up.
Watching several of his other videos, with interviews of both Israeli and Palestinians, NEITHER want a two state solution.
also the so called "palestinians" don't want a two state solution. they want a one state solution in which there is another arab muslim dictatorship free of jews instead of the current jewish democracy one.
2 state solution with Palestinian s who don’t think Israel has a right to exist. Go ahead and explain how that works?
well we wanted a 2 state solution untill we started getting murdered on our way to school@@8aNda1d
Why would we give up our right to have a jewish state? Thats just a stupid question
No such thing as a stupid question.
Did anyone ask your opinion?
Everywhere else in the world there are limits to immigration. That is the issue. Also horrific inequality and brutality. Facts that have been stated by the largest human rights organizations within Israel.
Your a brave man Corey!
don't worry, no one will attack or jail him for saying/asking whatever he wants. Israel isn't like muslim countries
@@theendurance he goes to the Palestinian Territories and asks questions too so…………….. 🤷♂️. Keep up the bigotry there bud 👍
@@theendurance muslim countries are over your head 😍
he gets arab translator to ask the questions @@Hadeed20
when he speaks to palestinians he refers terror attacks as "operations"@@Hadeed20
What country has a policy that is different from one citizen to another based on ethnicity? I would think the obvious moral answer is Israel should be a democracy only, but there is a problem of safety due to resentment among Palestinians that is a tricky issue. Australians live in Australia, but being a citizen is what makes you Australian - that's it. It doesn't mean you are white and love vegemite.
I just can't comprehend the justification of an ethno-state. We had the white Australia policy 50 years ago, but it's now understood to be a moral stain on our country's history as discrimination under the law based on race is self-evidently backward.
Maybe their history is slightly different then a british imperial penal colony? Maybe their homeland is located not in the ar$e end of the planet?
Jews and non jews have the same right and freedoms. What is the problem? The only thing that makes Israel a Jewish country by definition, are the symbols, like the anthem for example, and the right of return which says that Jews have a right for citizenship.
Why is it bad for Jews to have their own state? Jews want one place where they will be a majority, just like every country won't just open its borders to everyone.
There are almost 50 Muslim majority countries & some among them are well known as Islamic States. In comparison, you have this small Jewish State, the only one in the world, that everyone is going crazy over. Many of the Jews in Israel actually came from Muslim countries that kicked them out.
They kicked out 750,000 ppl in 1948 and in 2023 are attempting to kick out another 2.3 million ppl....there's a big difference its called ETHNIC CLEANSING AND GENOCIDE
No true they leave by themselves. Ask. Morrocan Jews or Algerians. No one forced them to leave
Learn about history that Jews live in peace with Arabs than with Europeans
It’s because Israel outproduces the whole Muslim world combined!
Difference is that anyone can become a muslim, islam is not an ethnicity.
Jews did live fine in muslim countries until zionism took hold.
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Can Jews convert to Hinduism? If they do, should they lose their right to vote?
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I think you need to go way, way deeper down this rabbit hole. This is the key issue that the Jewish people need to think on and discover truth in. Do we embrace our identity as Jews or do we try to be like other civilizations (the West)? It's a big topic!
I personally see nothing wrong with an Ethno-State so small that it can not be seen on most full-scale maps. I am unsure why so many people are aginst such a thing.
Because it's a nuclear power whose defence policy includes the Samson Option@@igbl108
@@igbl108 great point. We have a unique identity, we should embrace it and not be afraid. In the final analysis we are a just, wise, and kind civilization. Of course it is our responsibility to act as such.
@@igbl108maybe because this ethnostate was created due to ethnic cleansing? And keeps oppressing a huge number of indigenous people because of the Nazist ideology?
We stay Jews! We promise ourselves never to be a minority is someone elses country.
You ask fantastic questions. Shows the reality.
The last guy that said "bad luck" what if things were the other way around and you one day find yourself in that same situation as the Arab Israeli, or Palestinian then what? bad luck?
No, it would be antisemitism and all kinds of names
@@awaf12 Exactly, one is allowed to make a loud noise and support genocide, and the other is silenced and accused of being terrorists!
Well, I agree that his views are wrong, but what do you mean by "what if things were the other way around and you one day find yourself in that same situation as the Arab Israeli, or Palestinian then what? bad luck?" ? Israel was created because of those things happening all over the world, especially in ww2...
Approximately 30 countries with Islam as the official religion and approx 50 with Christianity as the official religion yet everyone questions a democratic Jewish majority country where everyone has equal rights (on paper). No country is free of discrimination. How have religious minorities been treated in Muslim majority countries? The answer is not well.
Lol at the "on paper" addition. Basically admitting there's not equal rights. If they existed in practice, you wouldn't need to mention that they're on paper.
@@scottcantdance804 how are equal rights or any rights in most, if not all Muslim majority countries? How many Christians remain in Egypt? Malaysia has bumiputera, which is institutionalized racism written into law, favoring Muslims in all aspects of life. Tell us all about equal rights for non Muslims anywhere in the Muslim world.
Is that why the 11% of christians have had no issues for the past several hundred years? And do you even know what zionism means? It means a Jewish ETHNO state, no one cares about the religion part, the problem is the ethnic discrimination, no other country in the world does this
That's not true, there are only 15 countries with Christianity as their official religion, and the vast majority of those (excluding wild exceptions such as the Philippines) Christian countries are really not Christian countries in practice, and Christianity has little to no influence on the practical functioning of the state. Many of them have laws that are completely opposite to Christian dogma, such as abortion, none of them has limitations on the immigration of people based on religion, and almost all have absolutely equal rights between its citizens, unlike Israel.
Official religion in this case is just a relic of the past, something ceremonial. It becomes problematic in the 21st century when this isn't the case, especially if it is connected to the formation of an ethnostate, as is the case in Israel.
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Subscribed from Australia. I also think you are doing humanity -- and Israel -- a service. I am an old retired English and History teacher -- 80 in fact -- who went to school with quite a few Jews in Sydney, people with a lot of missing family. I became a teacher of English and History, even worked a couple of years in an Orthodox Jewish school with Israelis on staff, but mainly South African Jews, including one colleague whose father once hid Nelson Mandela when he was on the run. So I have been party to some interesting conversations as you might guess and look forward to seeing some here. My thoughts on what is happening right now I will keep to myself -- but I certainly have some. I can say I am sad.
See, this is unlike any other country. You can become italian, french, or whatever, because their nationality is not based on ethnicity. It is a unique characteristic of Israel to be based on racial superiority. Yes, technically you can become Jewish, in a religious sense. But they will never see you as a true jew.
Do you know a convert jew?
You clearly have not lived in Europe. You will never be perceived as a "true" whatever even in Europe. A citizen? Sure. But at the end of the day even in Europe there remains a concept of ethnicity which an immigrant will never reach.
@@olterigo I live in Europe. I’m not an immigrant but I’m mixed race. Even if racism is absolutely a thing in Europe, it is not institutionalized, and it’s ostracized. This kind of divisive mentality is what we set on to get free of after ww2 and instead Israel is embracing it as its reason of existence. You can say anything but Israel is not secular given this, and it’s not something that should be looked at with respect.
1.im an Israeli and in the colture here a converted jew is just a jew as any other. 2. Anyone can become an israeli citizen if he applies for a citizenship and faces certain criteria (unrelated to ethnicity, stuff like "has good understanding of hebrew"). This is unrelated to the lew of retturn that allows jews from around the world to come to what we, the jews recognize as our national homeland
@@olterigo then tell us how Israel have 2 million Arabs
By the way when he says no one was chopped to pieces he might wanna look at what happened in Rwanda. I’m sorry to report this but there are a lot of other societies who have suffered immensely. And what is the outcome of winning the contest of having suffered the most?
No point. They truly believe they are the only ones in history to have experience something like this. Talk about Congo history and they would shrug their shoulders.
Many societies have suffered immensely but only the Jewish people are a worldwide issue and a scapegoat for other nations for thousands of years and only Judaism as a religion is the root to Christianity and Islam and therefore a religious issue as well.
Jews have suffered for thousands of years. Even though God gave their land back to them,they still never had peace but atleast God has blessed them in such a short period of time
That's what i call classic whataboutism....he conveys his people experience....if you have a problem with that look into a mirror and see what makes you react...
Yeah, “suffering.” Gtfoh with that. Jews ain’t suffering today. They’re doing just fine. Besides, the west game them that land and now we see them persecuting other groups there. Ethnic cleansing that’s been ignored for decades. A truly despicable nation of violent people.
“It’s a Jewish democracy” with half the people under military occupation who are not even Jews. Should those people become Israeli citizens or ethnically cleansed by expulsion or made into a real cohesive state or banutistans or one country with a federation of states and common citizenship?
6:36 yup.. thanks to that guy for pointing out the fact that there are different laws for different religious-ethnic groups
The guy is kinda wrong a little.
If you're Arab citizen of Israel and you want to have your close family to Israel, you can.
The guys speaks about the rule that if you're a Jew from a state put of Israel you can claim citizenship of Israel.
If you are descendant from Jews abroad you can go to Israel and if proven you can receive citizenship.
That's the only right only Jews have in Israel , which others don't have.
The Arabs and christians can vote, can marry, can have social security, can go wherever they want.
One problem is that Jews and non Jews can't officially marry inside Israel because of stupid rabbinical laws.
But if Jews and non Jews are legally married outside of Israel the state would recognize the marriage, although if said couples want to divorce they have to go through Jewish rabbinical courts.
Which is actually stupid.
Most Israelis hate that shit and want to change it so there's civil unions and the rabbinical nonsense would be thrown out.
So that's where laws interact with different populations in Israel.
All have the same rights unless we're talking about Jews that weren't descendants of citizens inside Israel providing proof they are of Jewish genealogy - they can then be provided with Israeli citizenship.
Also the fact that Jews and non Jews have to marry officially out of state to be lawfully recognized as married couples, which many Jews do considered idiotic and most Jews don't like forcing.
Even Cory is refuting "non Jews can't reunite families"
i like your videos because they are so the voice of the people. can you ask more in the Arab towns of the PA and find out how they experience what is happening in Gaza and whether they understand what happened on 10/7?
As a non-jewish European, I think Israel should be primarily a jewish state because it is the only homeland for jews. Just like India is the homeland for hindus, various countries are primarily e.g. buddhist (Thailand etc.) and many many countries are muslim countries.
I am not demanding that e.g. Saudi-Arabia should abolish their state religion, and Mecca should be opened to all religions, not just muslims. Similarly I feel jews need their own state.
*_En tant qu’Européen non juif, je pense qu’Israël devrait être avant tout un État juif car c’est la seule patrie des juifs. Tout comme l'Inde est la patrie des hindous, et de nombreux pays sont des pays musulmans_*
*_Je n'exige pas que, par exemple, l'Arabie saoudite devrait abolir sa religion d’État . De la même manière, je pense que les Juifs ont besoin de leur propre État_*
C'est évident
Can I ask for an interview?
Israeli here and here's why so many people were offended by this question.
If Israel would not be a Jewish state then it would no longer be Israel.
The flag, anthem and even the name are all derived from Judaism and most if the population is ethnically Jewish. so suggesting that Israel should not be a Jewish state is the same as suggesting that France shouldn't be a French state or that Japan shouldn't be a Japanese state.
Israel is already both a democracy and a Jewish state.
That sounds contradictory but it really isn't. Non Jews haves the same right as Jews and there is no law that different between them.
HOWEVER, defining Israel as a Jewish state causes a sense of inferiority to non jews (mainly Arabs) who can't relate to the flag or the anthem.
Minorities exist in every country and you should treat them with the same rights as any other citizen but changing the identity of the country is asking for too much.
I don't think it should be an offensive question any more than asking France, should France prioritise a humanist values over judeo-christian ones, or asking tunisians if they would like a secular non islamic tunisia. Theocracy isn't good for democracy and jewish theocracy is no exception. I'd argue that this is due to the very nature of using faith to derive identity and national "values" i.e. faith is something that people leap into and trust without necessarily questioning. That's its entire basis, trust in the "unknowable" and an entire subset of axioms. The issue is some of those axioms are dangerous to human well-being and there is no way you can convince a religious person of this, let alone a religious state.
@mwran54 interesting, but I don't really understand what you mean about the nuances? What are you referring to in what was said
I’m sorry but saying that Israel doesn’t discriminate against minorities is a flat out lie, what about the nation-state law of 2018? Or the nakba law? Or the Hametz law? And these are just a couple of examples
@mwran54 yea I see your point but I still feel like the "founding myth" Of Israel /as zionist state is founded in religion. The idea of a chosen people, favored by God over others. The idea of a promised land, by God. The idea that it's a land without people for a people without a land. The right of return. So many of these notions are largely based on religion which is what makes them such an existential threat to Palestinians, and very hard to reason with.
@@content.creator.portrait Non of the above laws are discriminatory against any minority group.
1. The nation state law is a *deceleration* rather then a law as it can't be enforced, and overall it just claims that Israel is a Jewish state.
2. The nakba law prevents the *governmental funding* of any institution or body that denies the legitimacy of Israel's existence.
3. The Hametz law *allows hospitals to choose* whether or not to restrict the hospital's cafeteria food to be kosher during Passover. and so far it hasn't been enforced.
The blonde lady says Israel is defined as a ‘Jewish Democracy’, a conundrum implicitly denying gentiles equal rights and protection under the law, privileging Jewishness and depriving Christians and moslems of equal status. Israel is an abortion of democracy, a post-WWII error of overcompensation founded in a panic of collapsing British imperialism, designed to sow seeds of violent disharmony in former colonial lands. Like the failed moslem state of Pakistan (a comparison too rarely drawn but entirely apropos) the definition of a state according to a religioethnic identity is contrary to any principle of liberal secular statehood, the modern norm, and particularly carries imperialist ‘divide & conquer’ strategies of control over subject populations to a new level. Instead of expensive military occupation, the British imperialists left it to Israeli Jews and Moslem Pakistanis to police (persecute and drive out) religious and ethnic minorities.
Explain your lies how Christians and Muslims don’t have equal status? Name one Muslim country where non Muslims can govern? You need to work on your ignorance or ancestors!
Well put !!
Keep Israel a Jewish nation. Poland is a Christian Democracy just like other nations. United States used to be a Christian Democracy. We still are in some ways. We use the bible to swear oaths in court and celebrate Christmas and Easter, having no school days on Sat/Sunday. I'm not Protestant Christian as many Americans and still do not feel like a minority here and neither do my Egyptian friends who practice other religions.
the point is that there is separation of church and state
The problem is that Israel defining itself as a Jewish state involves more than having Saturdays off. It means any Jew from the world can immigrate but Arabs who were born there can't come back. In other words, it means no equal rights on big things, not just holidays. You can't have a democracy and an apartheid where there are different laws for different people (races, religions, etc).
@@guzmas31they can’t come back because they participated in armed resistance against the Jewish state and we don’t want them back. Jews are indigenous to land and will always be welcomed back home.
About the laws, what laws? The laws I know are specifically discriminate Jews only. Marriage laws for example only makes it difficult for Jews to get married and does not discriminate minorities.
@@guzmas31They can gain citizenship in 5 or more years after filing and living in the country. Israel is not unique for this. As the Only Jewish State, it was formed for the Jews to have Safe haven after 2000+ years of persecution.
@@shainazion4073formed by moving other people out.
You are one brave dude. Good job.
In what way exactly is Israel a Jewish state? What specific policies make it a Jewish state? What exactly would have to change for it to no longer be a Jewish state?
I know of the Law of Return and the authority of the Rabbinate over religious aspects of life for Jews. Am I missing something?
A lot of laws are religion specific.
1) One law that applies equally to all citizens regardless of religion, ethnicity, race, etc.
2) Martial law is not democratic. Israel can never be democratic until it makes peace and ends the occupation
nonsense@@RobAKimball
@@RobAKimball “If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.” Golda Meir
Corey: excellent video. Is the guy in the background at 6:06 related to you??
First a huge thanks to Corey, it is always amazing to see how far you have taken this and still continue.
I don't think people have properly thought it through all the way, or I'm missing the point. The way Corey seems to ask the question is jewish (in what way? halacha? immigration laws? preference of rights? national holidays? ) or democracy (just the voting part? meaning majority rules? if so all the "scare" statistic on demography are showing more religious as years go by and possibly also more arabs compared to secular israeli. Which as years go by would mean democratically the voters would change it to a more religious? "jewish?" state anyway, unless you start changing the immigration laws, and then?!?!?!? ).
Besides the "parameters" not being defined, I don't see much of a difference if democracy eventually will lead to the same outcome.?!
I don't see a major problem with the statement of "if they don't like it here, then move", since it comes on the back of "they should enjoy the same rights as everyone else" (?!?). All the people coming to Europe, the US, Canada or other western affluent countries, move EXACTLY because they don't like it where they live, or want to pursue what to them seems like a "better life". Not chasing them away, just giving them the option to decide where to live based on how each country works.
and sorry this is all I'm currently able to do (like, sub and comment). Do you only ask Israeli citizens or do you still have ask Palestinians as well?
There's just one thing missing in your comment. When someone from Europe moves its the right of return. They don't lose citizenship in either state. When someone Palestinian moves, let's say from the West Bank, they have no citizenship or legal basis by which they would be allowed back. Their own house is fair game. I don't think your comparison is truly fair
not to get into an entire debate about borders and sovereignty, but my understanding was the question was put about Israel (not including gaza/westbank), since the assumption was moving while having an Israeli citizenship. Also the entire "democracy" would be voting (in Israel), and if they don't have Israeli citizenship (which would not be taken away), they wouldn't be able to vote (currently?!?) in Israel ie. the "democracy". So I stand with by my comparison.
Also I can tell you from personal experience, that there are countries in Europe (and other parts of the world) that do NOT allow dual citizenship, and therefore a person moving to Israel would indeed loose/have to give up their citizenship. Since my comparison was for people moving TO western countries, I don't know if in those cases people have to give up their citizenship as well.
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@@utroligte very few countries don't allow dual citizenship and that's not an ethical practise in my opinion. Ok fair point about Israel being the subject of the q but... Quite a bit of israelis don't recognise Palestine as a state and think of it as part of greater Israel which will be reconquered. So I think those people deserve citizenship or a chance at it, given that apparently their land is seen as fair game, just like anyone else. Also idk man I just want people to have peace, to stop being labelled based on their ethnicity, and for Palestinian and Israeli civilians to stop being killed.
@@fatimaghailan6728 Regarding the right of return, I'd like only to point out that Israel was established as a safe haven for Jews after the Holocaust, and its rules of return mirror the German rules of who is considered a Jew (and therefore should be exterminated). The current events only make this claim stronger, as Jews are still being targeted in many countries. Palestinians, as other nationals, don't need a safe haven because nobody is trying to exterminate them (ok, maybe you're one of these people who think that Israel tries to exterminate them, which I claim is completely untrue, but then why would they want to move to the only place that tries to do that do them?)
@@lizberezin2919 I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Why do you think it's untrue that Israel is trying to displace Palestinians fully, erase their culture and them?
Why did the IDF target Palestinian churches, the oldest library in Gaza, universities, etc? What is the aim of using AI-generated targets and indiscriminate carpet-bombing, when we know that the IDF is capable of extremely precise weapon use e.g. targeting one apartment in an entire apartment complex? And how does any of what's happening help the hostages, who are allegedly underground? What does bombing what is above ground do for structures that are allegedly deep underground
I mean just because someone is muslim doesnt mean they can move to any muslim country for free the comparison is nonsense
Lots of countries in the world where Islam is the state religion. Some of these countries even apply Islamic law in their courts.
Hey there .. none of the islamic countries, said that this land only for Muslims.. in thier constitutions it is written that all people have the same rights regardless their religion or ethnicities. Only Isr @ eal ... do that.
So because these Muslim states do something which is retrograde then you should do it too? What kind of argument is this?
@mudarsaid9733 it's a small peice of land,who ever is not happy they can move.Best ppl respect that
@@Hshdzsskidi they can move this is a choice .. but the also can resist that also another choice... you can not tell the ppl what to do ..
@@content.creator.portrait every country in the world gives thier citizens equal rights .. you Can not call your self a country if you did not do that ... Isreal has 2 millions arabs living inside, if you did not give them equal right exactly like other society components they will never feel citizenship.. thus they will keep fighting.
So this State will never had peace.
A question with possible too broad interpretations.
Since it is too simplified and a people is not just a religion, it would be like asking: what if Armenia were not an Armenian State?
(just to give an example)
It’s pretty clear to me. Should Israel be an ethnostate (for the Jews) or a democracy ( for the people.
@@kellenwaters9087 For the Jews vs for the people? Aren´t the Jews people in your conception?
@@kellenwaters9087 Just to be clear: Israel is a democracy and it is not only for the Jewish people (I am simply going to ignore the disgusting thing that emerges from your comment, unconsciously or consciously, loaded with a horrible prejudice when you ask "for the Jews or for the people?"; ask the Baharies, who were chased to death, where do they feel safe).
Israel, a country to freely practice any religion, unlike several other places on the planet, where just because of the religion that a person practices, they would be murdered in just a couple of minutes.
Jews? oh yes.
Other religious minorities? probably too.
To those who practice a majority religion? As seen during the history of the world, they don't care one bit as long as they stay safe.
@@carlos208 Did I say they were not? Seems like you're playing coy by suggesting I didn't include the Jews as part of the people. Let's say this, is democracy in israel only for jews, or is it for EVERYONE? I don't need to dog whistle.
@@carlos208 It's acually the Jews who elevate themselves above the people not the other way round. Victim mentality like that is what has turned the world off of Israel's side and lies
Wasnt Lebanon used to be somewhat of a democratic country.!
Lebanon was the Paris of the Middle East before the Palestinians des t roy ed it!
@@solvingpolitics3172the jewish destroy it.
Sorry, how did the Palestinians destroy Lebanon?
palestinains were allowed to go to lebanon, and that cosued the death and assasins to kill the goverment. then iran came and now lebanon is controled by the terrorists organiztion hezballah@@SuperDflower
@@solvingpolitics3172 Before the US globalists interfered with it as they have done everywhere else.
The idea of separation of CHURCH and STATE needs to be introduced as something which inevitably leads to discrimination and racism. Religion is a private issue such as bodily autonomy. Once the State becomes involved in your personal life, coercion, force and violence are not far behind, as we have seen during the last few years.
Do you think that in places like the UK, Australia, and the US, for example, they should instigate 7-day work weeks to make sure Christians no longer get State instigated free paid vacations on sundays to practice their religions? Also, should the state mandate a requirement of written permission from vicars and the like for Christians who wish to take days off work for Christmas and easter, for example?
ps. the 'weekend' was culturally appropriated from Judaism (aka Shabbat), so you better get rid of weekends in the west! For the sake of church/religion separation, of course.
@@rivkahwhite4882 What I meant to say was that NOT having separation of Church and State leads to discrimination and racism.
I live in the USA where the First Amendment of the Constitution states that there will be no law establishing a one State-sponsored religion. Religion is in the realm of the private sector but is given a tax-free status because it is not a for-profit business venture.
My understanding is that two days off work per week started less than a hundred years ago with the rise of labor unions and the needs of different faith traditions in a pluralistic society to be accommodated. This idea was driven by business owners who petitioned the government to create a two day week-end for their employees. Since most people don't work for themselves and work for someone else, they can't take days off on a regular basis whenever they wish.
@@ladym1910 But the USA does sponsor one specific religion by creating public holidays for only one of those religions. People of other faiths have to be humiliated by having to prove they are of another faith and that they need different times/days off work to follow their traditions.
The source tradition of having a weekend was the Jewish tradition of Shabbat (the 7th day being a day refraining from work). It is written in ancient Jewish texts available for all the world to witness, and it was appropriated by 2 other major world religions. Shabbat has been around for millennia, and was not just invented by labour unions a century ago.
@@rivkahwhite4882 I wouldn't use the word "appropriated" because it means "taking something for one's own use, typically without the owner's permission." The Jewish tradition of refraining from work on one specific day of the week is not "owned" by Jews. It was an example that other faith traditions chose to follow because they liked the example. The labor movement helped broaden that tradition to two days to accommodate different faith traditions for a pluralistic work force.
Since the vast majority of the US population is Christian, the official holidays regarding work are based on that tradition and there are other holidays which are not related to religion. I don't know about instances of "humiliation" or proving one's religion at work, in my experience. Maybe others have had different experiences based on individual employers but that is not determined by the government.
I wouldn't say that the US is completely compliant with its laws, even though that is the goal and one can make a legal case seeking compliance. For instance, during the time of vaccine mandates in the recent past, most requests for religious exemptions were not accommodated, even after "proof" was provided even though according to US law, one does not have to show proof of one's specific religious beliefs in order to get a requested religious exemption.
@@ladym1910 " It was an example that other faith traditions chose to follow because they liked the example." is 100% appropriation.
You can't see how much of Jewish culture, tradition, history and practices were appropriated because the layers of appropriation go back thousands of years.
Christians in the US (and other Christian nations) do have the privilege of their traditions never being interrupted, so you are oblivious to the humiliation of, for example, a Jewish student having to prove they are religious to observe Yom Kippur, on years when university exams fall on the date allocated to Yom Kippur in the Hebrew calendar.
And are you suggesting that if another religion became the majority (for funsies lets use the example of Islam) in the US, then all the major festivals would be public holidays catering only to Muslims?
The arrogance and blindness to privilege in the west are astounding.
انت رجل شجاع لي تسأل هذا السؤال لي هؤلاء المرضي
Good question!
If you want to maintain your Jewish state, that's fine with me, just stop taking my tax dollars and work to build your own defense.
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Empty vessels make the loudest noise 😂😂😂
People paying the tax can't say sh!t on social media, only poor people say sh!t on social media 😂😂😂😂
@@MaziOsitaOkoye Israel, stop acting like a bum always asking for support from the US, pay for your own wars.
@@olllloollllo $3.8b is a penny compared to the intelligence and gains it's gaining in the middle east because of Israel. The US never invest where it will not have a lot of interest in.
@@MaziOsitaOkoye The United States has given Israel more aid than any other nation since World War II, granting it more than $260 billion. This will continue and wars will continue because of Israel unless the American public does something about it. We don't want your intelligence. Fix your country and stop controlling US politics with the Israeli lobby. We need to get rid of lobbies in the US.
OMG the hate in those people .. I don't get it, if something happed to you why you want to do it for others !!!
You literally saw 1 or 2 that were actually hateful. This is called cherry picking, which I feel like is dishonest, especially in a format such as this video.
This hate is everywhere , Israelis in streets , in social media and in their comments and videos , the kids in school , we saw their hate everywhere not just 1 or 2 people @@barakingplayz5581
Could you imagine if there were an officially Aryan state somewhere in Scandinavia, only for people who could prove Aryan ancestry? People would find it racist and messed up.
Aryans are from India. There is no such thing as white @ryan’s just one of a dol phs pathological lies. If there is, let’s see your documentation?
By the way, there are over 50 white majority countries!
Yes you are correct, the 2 million Arab Israeli citizens don't exist. Dirty racist Jews!
These interviews reveal a fascist side to Israeli society.
Corey:
When are you going to have the courage to ask Pals about the mass rapes?
Really? Are you nuts? Do you want him to die?
even the PA would arrest him
Theres no evidence at all about rapes, israel even denied an independent investigation because it’s all lies.
Please, have the dignity to shut up. Your government murdered twenty thousand innocents, which already lived in a cage befor the 7th of October... The world is finally waking up, but politicians represent the old (corrupted) class
He said he's "having a really hard time" in an article a few weeks ago regarding returning to the West Bank. It's titled: "An Israeli Academic Spent a Decade Trying to Understand Palestinians. He Now Believes Hope for Peace Is Bleak"
Israel is far from being a religious state...
why did noone in the video say that then.
@@kylemenos They obviously don't know what à religious state is...
Just want to say love the channel and thank you for the insight into an average israelis mind its really fascinating and educating
AFAIK the Jewish part of Israel is the immigration law where Jews can migrate.
Do the respondents understand that?
well you'll only recive 1 answer to this question: this is a jewish state not an arab state not a christan state and theres no reason for us to let none jewish immigrints in like other countries like the usa or the netherlands have the right to stop letting people migrate into them
@@Lid_il The problem there is that you are talking about an ethno religion.
So being Jewish is not like any other religion where you can just convert and become the thing.
And the other thing is that Muslims who were born in Israel don't get the right of return.
@tonedowne You can 100% convert to Judaism. I am a Jew, and I have many friends who are converts.
@@tonedowne 1. Anyone can convert to Judaism. 2. If they were born in Israel, they already have Israeli citizenship. So, it isn't clear why they should get the right of return.
@@olterigo Anyone can convert to Judaism, but that doesn’t necessarily make them Jewish. Like anyone can become an Anglican, but it doesn’t make them English.
Palestinians literally do not have the right to return. Once they leave it’s a done deal, they can never come back, even to visit.
So even an old lady born in Tel Aviv before the creation of Israel, who has been removed from Israel to live in a refugee camp in Gaza, can never return, not only to Israel, but to Gaza as well. And the same for her descendants.
It’s ethnic cleansing
A Blessed Shabbat Shalom And Chodesh Tov Tevet...
Chanukah Sameach To Everyone 😊
May This Month Bring Our Brave Soldiers And Hostages Home....
They will return in shrouds under this failed government
1:47 Guy couldn't withstand the power levels and the spiritual pressure 😂
3:00 Turkey?? Really?? Does this person think Turkey is an islamic state? We are a secular nation and one of the only countries that has secularism embedded in its constitution with a clause that states it can’t be removed. We are literally making fun of islam at a bar right now. Learn about the world before judging lmao.
Fun fact....
Over 50% of the israelis in this video are the decendents of european converts and have ZERO jewish ancestry.
Not only that, but many of them are athiests aswell.....so they are neither jewish by race or by faith....atleast their forefathers practised judaism, even though they werent specifically jews. These people basically have ZERO affiliation with israel.
I have a suggestion for your next video, it will probably be the most controversial one yet...
Randomly choose 10 israeli jews and 10 palestinians and do a dna test on them and then show the results of who has the most cananite dna. This will give us all an insight of who has a higher degree of heritage to the land.
I guatrantee this will definitely create a new wave of realisation.
And your video will probably go viral.
Majority Jevvish groups trace their ancestry to the levant/ middle east including those that came from Europe.
Indigenity comes from your cultural identity not your DNA. Jevvs came from J(ew)dea/the land of Israel.
@@anthonyr963when was that
@@Badger990 Since for thousands of years.
After hearing from the last gentleman "No one was chopped up into pieces anywhere else but us" triggered something I always wanted to say. It's almost the holocaust was used as a reason to justify anything now. However, not only Jews were massacred in Germany controlled places, there were many other groups for example, the Chinese being systematically tortured and eliminated in their home country. We can always turn this into a competition but the point is, the whole world was suffering 80 years ago, whatever gave you right to use that against Palestinians is crazy
Well said!
I don't understand this question actually 🤔 it's like asking an Italian "what if Italy was only a democracy and not an Italian country?!" I don't get it... Of course most of nations have other ethnicities among themselves but that doesn't change the nationality of the country
What you don't know is that the jews are the minority in the land so it should be an Arab Democracy if like Italy.
The only way for it to be Jewish Democracy is if they kill/Expell the majority, which is what they did.
I'm Egyptian used to be Muslim and understand the necessary of being jewesh state.. Arabs and Jews have the same rights except one thing they can't migrated with large numbers.. the majority should be Jews all the time.. the last man clarified it totally with simple logic if Muslims are the majority that means another holocaust.. I agree with him .. God bless your nation 🇪🇬💙🇮🇱
B*llshit. Jews were not allowed to enter Jerusalem for 600 years under Byzantium - the Muslims allowed them back in. When Jews were being persecuted and inquisitioned all over Europe they escaped to Islamic lands. Jews lived in safety under the Muslim Ottoman empire. By your logic then all these Jews would have been holocausted because Muslims were the majority. Silly fool.
Congratulations on leaving Islam! What religion are you now?
The gentleman at the end nailed it... with the best attitude. Viruses spread, like Islam... whilst real living creatures prefer a real home.
Did you steal that logic from the Nazis?
@@kellenwaters9087 Haha you're funny! i've never heard of logic being stolen. Is that a thing?
@@zetaepsilondelta545 Called plagiarism. Nazi-Israel stole their strategies from Nazi-Germany.
Is it hard to use the word "secular". The question is terribly structured.
Cory we are not sweden or france 😂😂😂😂🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
This question is also the answer to the only way to Peace. What is best more than living in peace with Palestinian and your Arab neighbours.
It already is more a democracy than a jewish state.
If it were a jewish state,
1, the Sabbath would be enforced by all in Israel.
2, mt Zion would not have a mosque and Israel would have control of this holy mountain.
That would be the bare minimum.
See en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism_in_Israel.
This is an important project. Thank you for making this series. Israel is not and never has been a democracy.
BRUH MOMENT you are literally so ignorant it's not even funny or sad😮💨
@@leoa1893 bro i dont understand what you wrote
I remember when you posted a video about “why Arabs are more polite than the Jews”,
And now it’s very clear at 1:37, proves it very well.
Very cool dude in the end.
The question is indeed not specific, it's not clear what is a Jewish democracy vs another type of democracy. I do understand that many Israeli Arabs are upset that the flag, anthem, etc. are Jewish and do not represent them. I also feel that it's easy to change. It's easy to add another section to the anthem that would represent the local Arab population, or the fact that we all live here together now. Maybe the Arab MPs can do something in the Knesset for that? They never actually address things that could bring us together, it feels that on both sides it's the things that move us apart that are done.
the core difference is the separation of church and state, the infuence that jewish religious extremists have on the government.
democracy can only be pursue if theres not a supremacy of a specific group, so jewish state cannot be democratic, it cancels out
It's apartheid country. I agree with 👆🏼
Are you talking anthems and flags? Check out what is happening in the West Bank now. Did you see that Chabad banner in a window of a bombed out building in Gaza? Smh.
arabs have equal right in israel. u cant deny that. 👌🏾
Now please do an updated version, postwar.
That would be an interesting comparison.
Interviewer - "why can't Israel be democracy and not Jewish state"
Guy-"it would be better that way"
Interviewer-"with immigration of people who are not jews? " I knew that's exactly where it's going, and that's one of reasons Israel should be a Jewish state...The old guys were wise enough not to intertain a leftists.
They were wise enough, because they knew that they wouldn't be able to counter the unavoidable arguments, having to go down a discussion where they would unavoidably end up sounding like the people they don't want to become.
@@shmuelaryehkoltov241 leftists anywhere are sellout creatures, they would happily destroy countries and societies for their own evil lunacy. The is nothing good anyone can get talking with leftists, why even bother talking to them to beggin with,that's why old guys didn't intertain him and no Israelis or any one in any country should intertain leftists.
Funny considering they are themselves immigrants and children of immigrants. Hypocrisy and delusion at the highest level.
@@shmuelaryehkoltov241 So sounding like "people they don't want to become" means being dishonest?
or maybe they know they are wrong.