Yoooo sup peoples it's Lyt! Here's a table of contents so that y'all can jump around as you please. Shouts out to you all for the support too! CAP = @0:00 Gattadohmwk = @0:47 Supp. V+ drop rate = @1:02 This video context = @3:23 Eugen conceptual look= @4:33 Closing thoughts = @19:29 GIVEAWAY WINNER = @19:55 No high horse here! = @20:16 Once again shout outs to all, the positive & the negative feedback is all love in our eyes. Team sYs.tems - Lyt WORK.
i still have not a single war elemental after 420 hours and atleast 300 hours of afk farming, lol. also of course not a single supplementary dmg v+ good or bad.
From a player that has clocked 150h+ on the game, have several built characters and got all terminus weapons, If you want a good template for all your characters, these are mandatory: - 4x damage cap V - 1x war elemental - 1x supp dmg V - 1x tyranny V - 1x stamina V - 1x crit chance V - 1x signature sigil From here you still have 2 slots left, 1 if you dont have the double signature sigil, or 3 if you have it and also have the crit chance sigil with either tyranny or stamina. You can either slot: - Combo Booster V for more damage across the board if your character attacks very fast or very consistently, or - Linked Together V to cap on link attack dmg and also increasing sba dmg as well as filling the link meter way faster. You can also ignore both and slot extra 2x Supp Dmg V to get 100% supp damage chance. ( Important: Either go 1x Supp dmg V or 3x Supp dmg V, 2x is not optimal.) You will also want Aegis V sigil paired with some of the skills below. Without it you sit at an uncomfortable 30k hp which is pretty low and not optimal for the next upcoming raid. Aegis will get you past 40k hp threshold once you max out your character, but below 45k hp for your teminus weapon requirements. Ofc im not taking into consideration the secondary skills you can get from all these sigils, but you will usually want these, which are pretty good on all type of content : - Uplift (faster sba) - Drain (must have, to heal chip dmg) - Quick Cooldown (for faster rotations) - Cascade (Quick cooldown is better allround if you have to choose between the two) - Guts (must have imo) - Potion Hoarder (must have) - Auto Revive - Improved Dodge - Nimble Onslaught - Steel Nerves is also good if your character has inbuilt Stout Heart in their kit or you use Stout Heart sigil. Rest of the sigils are either bad or extremely situational in the current state of the game. Hope that helps and sorry for the long comment.
I think the more important thing to note about sigils is that its ok to stack full defense so you dont get one tapped if thats what it takes to learnthe fight. Just like he mentioned oeople are constantly getting picked up off the floor and you can fail the raid because of it. Glass cannon builds i love but only if you know the fight...ive ran proto bahamut so many times i know exactly how many combo rotations i have before he changes phases and ik how to dodge or block everything he does so unless youre on that level you shouldnt be using Glass Cannon....but if you are its one of the best sigils
Flight over fight is a amazing sigil for survival however it lowers attack but it's great for learning fights it also helps me pick up others on the ground as I use it with invincibility sigils from perfect dodges my damage my be low but support is nothing to sneeze at that's my opinion.
@@neoji3714 actually yea I did some limit testing and the negative atk% is basically offset by a single Tyranny and a maxed out weapon and invincibility sigils are very common as secondaries so it's easy to stack them as well. Dodge Payback also boosts your atk during the invincibility time so it's another way to offset that huge atk penalty.
@@kongxiong543press start ( controller ) choose training menu. It will reload after you swap gear/weapons/skills and saves time from having to run to the dummy laying down.
Theoretically you can get 2 supp v+ back to back, but seeing people using more than 1 in multiplayer is very sus. There was some youtuber with 3 supp v+ in less than a week, when people started to talk about how rare it was, 2 of these supp v+ magically vanished from their builds. It's almost like people had 7 attack gems on MHW after an month, but at least most of the youtubers (especially speedrunners) are very clear saying they cheated it. And let's be honest, nothing in the game requires this much power, i play mostly solo and i was afraid when people said you can only solo if you have stupid builds like running 2-3 supp v+, but in reality you can do everything with almost no effort.
Thanks so much for this, I was seeing people keep insisting that we HAVE to have these kinds of numbers and I'm like "homie how the HELL are you doing that between all of your other day to day BS"
well, as long as the game not include the PvP mode, I guess its still okay.. I play either solo or with my friend, so yea, dun care about the other gear.. like why would we even care, just play the game and enjoy it..
i wouldnt put crit dmg in any kinds of build cause by endgame you should already be hitting dmg cap so youre just wasting a sigil slot that couldve benefit the character youre playing or other characters and War Elemental i have no idea who said it but if you have it please always equip it cause it gives you a 20% dmg increase whether the boss has an element weakness or not as for Supplementary dmg its free dmg but you really dont need three(100% to proc supplemental dmg) hell you can even put one supplement dmg v which gives you 42% chance to proc supplemental dmg but in a game where youre constantly dealing dmg 42% will trigger quite alot which in that case gives you either one or two free sigil slots to put whatever in maybe improved dodge/guard or steel nerves if your character has stout heart or you have the sigil or garrison if youre playing Vaseraga or aegis or maybe youre a god at dodging and blocking and always getting perfect dodges/guard you can slot in the payback sigils or playing a character with charged attacks you can slot in quick charge or slot in a linked together so all those build videos with three supplemental dmg v isn’t mandatory especially if you dont care about 100% proccing it
100% agreed. Especially if you're just inserting normal V, you're kind of wasting space. I'd opt for 2 Supplementary IV+ with good secondary traits rather than a Supp V. Even 1 Supp IV+, just so it sometimes procs is good enough for me
in my opinion it should still be in your build considering that proud bosses have multiple bosses or change elements(pyet) or have ads that have different elements(proto bahamut) and on a sidenote ill say it again war elemental gives you a 20% dmg increase against bosses that have no elemental weakness its just a very beneficial sigil to have
-Good thing to know, the game actually indicates for you if you've hit your damage cap. the number has a line of gold flash through it along with a gold circle in the middle. if you watch for that then theirs no need for guess work as to whether or not you've made it to your damage cap. -Also Eugen's name is pronounced Oi-Gen with a hard G. -You can change your gear in the practice mode by pressing esc/start and going to training menu.
Remind me of that one youtuber who made a video about Charlotta's tech. It's fun and game till he denied that he didn't cheat his glass cannon 5+ and supp 5+ sigils with perfect lines =))
From someone who own consol but also a gaming pc.. With the trainer i indulge myself into infinite curio box, end up doing around 50.000 box gachas before i need to stop because i reach the 5.000 sigil limit and decided to stop right there... out of that i got only 31 V+ supp damage with most of them roll into junky 2nd stat like provoke or rupie or any resistance which is kinda useless. For war elemental and supp V they drop quite often so if you feel like not getting any war elemental believe me you'll be getting it soon enough just keep farming, but if you're into optimal build like V+ supp with uplift or cascade or nible by doing it legit way i can only say good luck and keep farming
This guy literally had Eugen’s sigils right before he closes out the menu. He pauses on all of them and even has the awakened version with both perks on it. 16:03 veteran = Eugen
The version of the game might matter : to be able to AFK farm more than 10 quests during the night, you'd have to be on one of the first versions of the game. Maybe the drop rate was also different? Anyway, for what it's worth, on the current version of the game, having obtained all Terminus weapons and maxed half of them, doing a lot of AFK farming... I have 3 Supplementary Damage V, and 2 IV+ with garbage side perks. With the number of sigil slots we are given, and the number of slots occupied with offensive sigils to reach the damage cap after pushing said cap by 65 lvl of "Damage cap" ; unless you have decent side perks on a Supplementary Damage sigil, it's not worth slotting. You're better off with alternative ways to boost your damage such as reducing CD of skills, or Celestial Arts.
Now, when people got SuppV+ sigil when they got really lucky by truly play the game...people just gonna call him "cheat" XD I said already it gonna kill the community. Cant deny people can use save scum(it ok), but yeah curios the only problem. But yeah there "third party" mods can be use out there XD and only because of CURIOS hahaha Well in the end it just Solo game player. Do whatever you like. Most people got no time to farm 24/7 on the game infront of Tv/Pc At least they already paid 60dollar for the game, so just do whatever you want dude :)
Right, to each their own. We just wanted to address this, so people aren't watching these build videos and going out to farm, just to realize 100 days later that Supplementary Damage V+ still hasn't dropped for them :/
I personally only think about damage after slotting any V+ with these - Potion Hoarder 15 - Guts 15 - Autorevive 15 - Improved Dodge 15 - Improved Guard 15
Definitely a good idea when you're still learning how to position and fight bosses. You don't want to be the person being picked up every 10 seconds lol
I actually have a 1 Supplementary V+ with an Auto Life substat which drop for me when I was still progressing through Maniac to unlock Proud. I saw it and thought oh it's only a chance activation and I never equipped it, I sorta just left it in inventory till I saw the 100k curio reddit post and realised how rare it was. So I guess I lucked out and I haven't seen a V+ ever since and I've gotten almost all the Terminus Weapons and have probably identified hundreds upon hundreds Curios and still no Supp V+ aside from that one I've gotten.
Got 2 Supp V+ at 130h. Second stat is crap though. One is fast learner and other is low profile which is fine. Also got 3 war elementals. Havent gotten any CritRate V+ with aegis/uplift/dmg cap, or Dmg cap V+ with crit rate/aegis. Seeing so many flex those.
Thanks, this is the most real video to understand your maximun dps and how to improve without any cheat. Love your content and hope you get the recon that you guys deserve, suscribed ❤😊
What buffles me the most is that between all these sigils we always end up using dmg cap and tyranny. I mean why should I use others like attack or stamina or combo booster or crit dmg or charge atk dmg if I can reach my dmg cap that easily with these? I really don't understand
opened around two thousand curious, havent had a single war elemental drop, and had piles of supplementary damage..... they were not great supplementary damage sigils but i did get them a lot
weird that the opposite for me , i had pretty quickly a ton of war elemental and AFK farmed for the character specigic sigils with both good traits exclusive ... but i got like 2 Supplementary damage in total and i opened around 1000 or more curios , ( im at 450 hours total ) .. the RNG is killing me in this game some drops are so rare .
Yeah i don't understand how people were getting supplementary dmg. The other day i finally managed to save up 60 curios after 3 days of questing regularly and only just got my first war elemental with everything else being garbage-esque sigils like life-on-the-line IV+ with improved healing.
Let us send a lot of feedback to cygames, to make the grinding not this nonsense, while the update isn't out yet, we can still voice our opinion to devs and make them listen, i was not trying to be asshole or some shit, but i did this because i love this game so much..
one thing is buggin me , with vane for exemple , despite having damage cap V+ equipped at lv 69 + Supplementary damage V+ and V , i always see when he does his final combo spinning in the air an icon next to the hit values , this icon is Cap damage , something like this it is very little to notice while playing lucilius , but does this means all is okay ? or that i missed something ? thx
Tyranny V x3 is way overkill. Same goes for Concentrated Fire V x3. Not having all Sigil slots is already a good indicator that the character isn't "at endgame", so this looks a lot more like a early post-game progression guide. The most baseline build for endgame is just getting a total of 65 levels in Damage cap, 100% crit rate by mixing over mastery bonuses and sigils (charge attack-based characters can use Lucky Charge instead of Crit Rate sigils here), and probably something like Tyranny and Stamina. You still have some space for Aegis, Garrison and the character's sigil. This + the base stats from Ascension / Terminus weapons is usually enough to reach your max damage on most characters, minus skills with extremely high caps such as Io's Flowery Seven, while still keeping some survivability. You can also get defensive options from the second skills on sigils (like dmg cap + autorivive, Aegis + guts, and so on). Most of what I just said here is achievable before you're likely to get your first War Elemental. The rest, like supp damage, is cherry on top if you can get it.
I'm personally close to 70 hours in the game, beat all the available quests and haven't gotten either war elemental or supp damage sigils (or the potion related exclusive). Not just no +sigils, not even the base versions (and I think supp damage can even roll at IV?). I'm also "only" at two terminus weapon drops, while two of my mates have been getting terminus drops pretty much back to back to back. Game definitely feels a little rigged at times.
I'm gonna comment here hoping i can steal some of that lucky and get a terminus or good sigil. i'm also still looking at no supplementary damage and no war elemental. @@TheUnrealPrasti
I'm only on hard mode. Just completed the story yesterday... I opened up 1 of my curios and got a supplementary damage one. Of course it's not a V+. I also got a rainbow prism, which I have no idea what ots for lol.
HAHAHAH That intro was insane. Personally, I found When I Put one Stamina, one Life on the line, Plus, one more Dmg Multiplier of your choice (whether it be Concentrated Fire for ranged or Tyranny for example) is when I hit the Dmg CAP (with Fully upgraded Masteries, Plus a Stinger Weapon). Now, Idk how consistent this formula is across all characters but My point is, Putting more than one Sigil of the same name when it comes to Dmg multipliers (Excluding Dmg CAP and Supplemental Dmg) will Probably Not be efficient for your Sigil slots giving that the bonus really diminishes at higher levels, you're better off with a different Dmg Amp sigil. What Iam really curious about is, how Worth is a Bahamut weapon really Compared to other weapons Fully upgraded?. Like, How worth is 100% Dmg cap from catastrophe practically?
terminus weapon are worth honestly essential for your build did some testing with Ferry with sigils Life On the Line, stamina, tyranny, and war elemental equipped with non Terminus weapon, five dmg cap, and +99 mirage munitions i was only hitting 79914 compared to with a fully awakened Terminus weapon +99 where i was hitting 97912(max dmg with Ferry unless you have glass cannon) with less dmg cap due to innate dmg cap from awakened weapons so theres a 22% damage difference and do remember +99 on Terminus weapon gives you 6283 atk making it the highest weapon with atk
My score on Bahamut with Charllota before the Ter Weapon was 10m-13m after the Ter Weapon and Supl sigil is 18m-16m my highest score was 18.9m but ofc with the perfect performance so that is how worth the Term weapons for you there is no compare at all it is no brainer the best for the max dps
The terminus weapons are objectively the best weapons in the game for EVERY character. They give the biggest stat boost with it's flat attack, (at lvl 1 is like 1,500ish attack) when ascended ya get damage cap ect. The upgrade routes on skill tree for the weapon are quite big DMG cap buffs and the catastrophe DMG cap +100% and +50% attack stack with other sigils. I believe even if your maxed on DMG cap (250% increase) the catastrophe from Terminus buffs your DMG cap to 350% overall so it's absolutely essential to get it for your characters
The stats from some sigils are multiplicative off each other for example it’s never worth it to run multiple tyranny sigils you get a much better buff from just 1 tyranny and 1 stamina not sure if this was mentioned since I’m not all the way through the video tbh but I just thought I’d mention that
Very great point, I have a video coming about build symmetry where I go over the finer points of what you mentioned above. Nonetheless great post and thanks for taking the time out to check us out!
One thing is that you doing this on an ascension weapon that isnt awakened. A better weapon to use at this stage is the crit one. It has the MUCH higher base attack than unawakened ascension (even with the lvl 25 attack trait, you need lvl 35-45+ to finally make that trait decent) and helps you crit more consistently instead of only ~50% and crits are huge for capping damage. Ascnesion weapon relies more on being awakened or at least having good sigils and imbues (i.e. "enough" crit rate and lvl 45+ attack). The crit damage masteries from the crit weapon are good for capping early too and carry over to other weapons.
Just as an aside, when you have fully levelled weapons, particularly the Terminus weapon, you often only need 1 damage boosting sigil like Stamina or Tyranny. You won't necessarily need to stack on 3 Tyranny sigils to reach max damage because your base attack will be so much higher. Another note to make is the difference between a percentage attack increase like Tyranny and a percentage damage increase like Concentrated Fire or Combo Booster. If you have high base attack, running one Combo Booster, which increases your damage by 70%, may be a good option as well. It just depends on what your character does.
Great insight and advice. It also varies from character to character, so everyone should take some time to go hit that dummy or bosses if you don't want to waste sigil slots.
haha i love this video, thank god someone calling them out. I've seen some of the videos and they said "just get lucky" and they got 3 Supp V+ with some good stuff
You can change skills and gear while in practice ao you dont have to exit out everytime. Great video very informative. Especially since i was struggling to figure out the damage cap and builds.
I made a video showing how they mess with the sigils (not in detail) and been getting a lot of flack. People don't seem to care even tho it makes multiplayer fights even easier when everyone is a god.
Yea you are correct, it's a T4 curio drop which is a 3% and Supplementary Damage V+ (0.3% - 30) to appear in the T4 chest. Getting sup lV+ is a better goal to set. supp v+ is just a trophy then anything else.
I actually don't mind if youtubers have these full perfect supplementary damage V+ builds cheat or not, for showing end game min-max purposes, but fully putting supplementary V+ as standard ONLY guide without showing or guiding what to buildup first before supplementary damage V+ is a no. seeing too many "damage" bahamut guides lately, but when you put them on multiboss area + mobs they die soo easily. specially those melee characters that doesn't have any kind of defense sigils. 2 dragon proud dragons swooping around, they die immediately.
very very true, it's unrealistic and not fair to the viewer, which is why we made this video. Thanks for taking the time out to check out and for dropping us comment.
Just an advice here, maybe next time write a concise script for the video, record it and then record the gameplay, combine them together in editing software, this way the video quality will be much higher, and it is more efficient than improvise with thoughts in mind. This video could've been a 5 min video instead of 20+ min, some nice info though, carry on!!!
"War Elemental and normal Supplementary Damage V Sigils are fairly easy to find. If you've made it to proud mode it wouldn't be surprising to have a few of these" Meanwhile, me at 120 hours and days of grinding Proud mode: NOT ONE.
One advice from me. If you see content creator, using supp dmg V+ 3x + war elemental, just take it as reference on how much one character can do the damage. Don't take it as a "Standard" build. The game doesn't have PvP content, so why would we even bother? just play the way you do and enjoy the content that the game has to offer. Anyway, may the RNG bless you with your drop on whatever you wish for!! Have a nice day owo b
Exactly! We share the same view as a team. Everyone can do what they want, but just take what you see out there with a grain of salt when it comes to what you should be expecting to find in the game. We just hope that people don't waste too much time grinding for items with astronomically low drop rates, and rather spend their time enjoying the game or working on their player skills.
Is there a way to see how many curios you've opened? Still havent seen a single one of those and I've maxxed out 1 ascension and 5 start the other 4 for my ai teammate.
finally someone made a video about this. players with supp dmg v+ with utility sigils (improved dodge, potion hoarder. etc.) and they're posting their builds on yt were kinda sus! it's kinda convenient isn't! (imma cheat in the game no one gonna notice it they're just TRASH SUBSTATS anyways) HYPOCRITES!
hopefully there would be one hell of an update in the future like hardcore raids which prioritize mechanics rather than braindead dps where supp dmg is not the top priority on character building.
So Supp+ sigils being really rare I can understand but I can also understand that with hundreds of thousands of people playing the game there would be a small chance that tens of people are getting a few of them from RNG.
@@Exodus311 They are still RNG we just dont know what they are until appraisal. Like save scumming wasnt suppose to be something we do to get sigils but most likely the devs didnt care because the powerful stuff was in curios.
150h in game, was afk farming and uuuuuh yeah I've got GIGA lucky considering that I've got 3 war elems, 3 VI+ sup dmg(aegis, +exp and nimble unsought) and 1 V sup dmg...
I have 2 supplementary 4+ with usable subs after 120 hour while one of my friends got the 5 version in his 100 hour.. But right now i'm almost on 150 hour no more supplementary damage lol
This is one of the videos that blames lucky player with supp V+ sigils as cheater I know people who have more than 3 and the got them legit ( it was streamed) Its not Impossible to get them Its just Rare as fuck
That's not our intention here. This is one of the videos that wants people to have proper expectations and not waste 100 days farming for curios when they could have been doing other things to enjoy the game. To each their own either way, and if it was legit, no one can take that away from you.
3. That's rookie numbers. You search on social platform that showcase build and dps. Every characters their own even AI, got 3 to 4 supplementary sigils. Everyone with good second stats. I'm here thought that easy to farm when i just got lucky with 1.
Rather than looking for supp dmg V I Ioved to play safe with adding aegis + garrison with good subs like guts, potion, and autorevive. What's good for high dps but you keep dead every minute. I believe fighting Lucilius you want to play safe and not being a burden to other player.
Out of curiosity, I cheated infinite curios and rolled 10,000 of them. I got exactly 1 Supp V+, and it had Blight Resistance ie. pretty much useless. Unclear if my seed for those rolls is permanent, but either way... Yeah, I''ll pass.
hahahahahhahaha so we can see that even with the mods to hack the curious, that it is still a hard ass drop...crazy. Thanks for watching and contributing towards Gaming Science
found 1 supp v+ with provoke after 15 hours 1 shooting fire elemental beast on vh after that i've stopped farming curio and gone back to leveling terminus weapons. 250 hours plus and the one i got is worst than the non V+. clear time is 10-15 sec for the quest curio is like a 2/3 quest ratio.
I’m at the point where I have my terminus weapon for my main, maxed all the Sigils I want for my build, and pretty much every other character that I’d want to play in a good place. I don’t see why I need to farm for anything else.
Depends a lot on your play style, which weapon and skills you use, who you're fighting etc. You can join our server if you wanna play together and/or we can help you with your specific build.
I've been playing the game non stop since release and I've been also afk farming. Ive got 2 war elementals and only ONE supplementary dmg 5...ONE!!! Like...having supplementary dmg 5+ is just a fever dream haha
@@sYs-tems Exactly, would it be nice if I did more than 1m to the boss with Percivals charged attack? Sure, but I still do 1m of dmg, so...who cares? :D
I say in end game, its definitely not all about dps. Alot builds should have some survivable in proud difficulty. Its sad to see players focus on straight damage just bc they see youtubers do that against a practice dummy.
Got in around 130ish hours clocked in, cleared all the content, and doing it on farm now solo easy. got aprox 4 maxed out terminus weapons and 1 more droped. out off all the curios i got 3 war elementals, couple of roll the die (did not count the berserks tbh) and just 1 and only plane V suppl dmg.... my friend with simmilar hours got 2x4 (maby 1 of them is 4+). But from what i gather the game is not protected so ppl can use cheat engins to pretty much give their asses what they need also i saw some video witch done a nexus mod for the game that enables a random spawniing of few supp dmg sigils at random in the store for dallia bages including 5+ (witch is a coool idea imo since u get 1 per day and if u lucky with subb roll u go for it) but considering the game is not eaven a month old i am sure the developers will do some changes, personaly hoping for gambling on mass with the vauchers for sigils couse pressing 1by 1 is draining my soul. GL out there with farming and hope u enjoy the game.
I totally agree with this - we are all passionate and hoping that the games continues to provide support and growth (an anti cheat engine would be nice as well)
Meanwhile here with roughly 120hrs+ playtime. So far x4 War Elemental (which was indeed lucky) But for Supplementary DMG x1 level 3 and x2 level 4+ (with, meh sub stat) So getting a Supplementary damage V is like insane luck.
Id have to say the more annoying thing with bmg cap is that it's inconsistent across the same unit. For example blue stance narmaya is hitting cap in her basics but swap to pink and oh I'm no longer capped?
Very true, we plan to go through every character and it is something we are currently working on ☺ Each character has a different nuance and should be built differently. Symmetry being mandatory ☺
FYI, Namaya's blue stance's normal attack cap is 43514, and for pink stance it is 108794; also normal attack dmg cap doesn't represent for skill dmg cap, combo attack's dmg cap and awakening's damage cap.
You have to now increase your attack dmg. Stamina, Tyranny, Glass Canon, Life on the Line, crit hit chance, aegis, and overall attack sigils will suffice. Be sure to also use imbuements, mastered, and level up your alt weapons. Let us know if that works.
@@sYs-tems i mean like i have 6 dmg cap V (for max dmg cap value), 1 stamina, 1 tyranny, 1 aegis, 2 counter dodge, and 1 awakening. If i trade for example my counter dodge sigils, for another tyranny, my dmg stay the same even tho i only have around 10500 atk. Meanwhile i see people with 25000 atk so i wonder if there's something else i'm missing. I know glass canon raises the cap even further but i'm not good enough to perfectly dogde every attack. I'm still early in proud but still wondering.
They might need this much atk for something specific like(iirc) Rack jump charge attack have rly high DMG cap so to cap it you need a lot of dmg sigils
Yoooo sup peoples it's Lyt!
Here's a table of contents so that y'all can jump around as you please. Shouts out to you all for the support too!
CAP = @0:00
Gattadohmwk = @0:47
Supp. V+ drop rate = @1:02
This video context = @3:23
Eugen conceptual look= @4:33
Closing thoughts = @19:29
GIVEAWAY WINNER = @19:55
No high horse here! = @20:16
Once again shout outs to all, the positive & the negative feedback is all love in our eyes.
Team sYs.tems - Lyt WORK.
i still have not a single war elemental after 420 hours and atleast 300 hours of afk farming, lol. also of course not a single supplementary dmg v+ good or bad.
From a player that has clocked 150h+ on the game, have several built characters and got all terminus weapons,
If you want a good template for all your characters, these are mandatory:
- 4x damage cap V
- 1x war elemental
- 1x supp dmg V
- 1x tyranny V
- 1x stamina V
- 1x crit chance V
- 1x signature sigil
From here you still have 2 slots left, 1 if you dont have the double signature sigil, or 3 if you have it and also have the crit chance sigil with either tyranny or stamina.
You can either slot:
- Combo Booster V for more damage across the board if your character attacks very fast or very consistently, or
- Linked Together V to cap on link attack dmg and also increasing sba dmg as well as filling the link meter way faster.
You can also ignore both and slot extra 2x Supp Dmg V to get 100% supp damage chance. ( Important: Either go 1x Supp dmg V or 3x Supp dmg V, 2x is not optimal.)
You will also want Aegis V sigil paired with some of the skills below. Without it you sit at an uncomfortable 30k hp which is pretty low and not optimal for the next upcoming raid. Aegis will get you past 40k hp threshold once you max out your character, but below 45k hp for your teminus weapon requirements.
Ofc im not taking into consideration the secondary skills you can get from all these sigils, but you will usually want these, which are pretty good on all type of content :
- Uplift (faster sba)
- Drain (must have, to heal chip dmg)
- Quick Cooldown (for faster rotations)
- Cascade (Quick cooldown is better allround if you have to choose between the two)
- Guts (must have imo)
- Potion Hoarder (must have)
- Auto Revive
- Improved Dodge
- Nimble Onslaught
- Steel Nerves is also good if your character has inbuilt Stout Heart in their kit or you use Stout Heart sigil.
Rest of the sigils are either bad or extremely situational in the current state of the game. Hope that helps and sorry for the long comment.
Another visual indicator of hitting cap is that yellow line that strikes through the number when it pops up.
Good note, dearly noted. Thanks!
It should be waaay more visible imo.
@@reptiliancow tbf you can guess that you hit the cap by watching the dmg number
@blackrull1981 true. But then try on lancelot lol
@@reptiliancow hahahahaha i feel you i main lanclot and i can't read the numbers
I think the more important thing to note about sigils is that its ok to stack full defense so you dont get one tapped if thats what it takes to learnthe fight. Just like he mentioned oeople are constantly getting picked up off the floor and you can fail the raid because of it. Glass cannon builds i love but only if you know the fight...ive ran proto bahamut so many times i know exactly how many combo rotations i have before he changes phases and ik how to dodge or block everything he does so unless youre on that level you shouldnt be using Glass Cannon....but if you are its one of the best sigils
Super facts! Good post
Flight over fight is a amazing sigil for survival however it lowers attack but it's great for learning fights it also helps me pick up others on the ground as I use it with invincibility sigils from perfect dodges my damage my be low but support is nothing to sneeze at that's my opinion.
@@neoji3714 actually yea I did some limit testing and the negative atk% is basically offset by a single Tyranny and a maxed out weapon and invincibility sigils are very common as secondaries so it's easy to stack them as well. Dodge Payback also boosts your atk during the invincibility time so it's another way to offset that huge atk penalty.
i wish i could fall with you then and not my allies that die everytime he does the claw and the blue breath when all you need to do is press l1
@@emotionalsupport facts
You don"t need to leave the training to chang your gear, in the training menu, you can chang every thing
😮That's valuable information, thanks a bunch for the heads up. 🎉
How
@@kongxiong543press start ( controller ) choose training menu. It will reload after you swap gear/weapons/skills and saves time from having to run to the dummy laying down.
Few minutes in and I wanted to comment this. Saw this here 🎉
Just got my first war elemental today after playing this game religiously for about 150+ hrs
And I got one after my 2nd proud quest. So RNG is crazy.
Yeah it's raw no protection out here in these RNG streets.
May the RNJesus keep blessing us fellas ! 🫡
Now you need 3 more, good luck🤣 #Grind
I got my first war elemental in my first 5 hours by then my cousin was just guiding me on what to do😅
Theoretically you can get 2 supp v+ back to back, but seeing people using more than 1 in multiplayer is very sus.
There was some youtuber with 3 supp v+ in less than a week, when people started to talk about how rare it was, 2 of these supp v+ magically vanished from their builds. It's almost like people had 7 attack gems on MHW after an month, but at least most of the youtubers (especially speedrunners) are very clear saying they cheated it.
And let's be honest, nothing in the game requires this much power, i play mostly solo and i was afraid when people said you can only solo if you have stupid builds like running 2-3 supp v+, but in reality you can do everything with almost no effort.
Very true +11 on this post! Thanks for watching and contributing
I unironically got extremely lucky on 2.
However I play siegfried so my damage is still bad lmao
Thanks so much for this, I was seeing people keep insisting that we HAVE to have these kinds of numbers and I'm like "homie how the HELL are you doing that between all of your other day to day BS"
Hahaha, rightttttt!? Thanks for watching though ☺
A lot of youtubers edited their sigils for their videos, its pathetic
Yeah it sucks, hopefully they provide an anti-cheat engine for future proof 😅
Wait what no way, why would they do this
@@XMegaJuniContent.
@@COA5TIt's not about the content, it's for feeling superior. That's what monkeys like to do and basically the only reson why they play games
well, as long as the game not include the PvP mode, I guess its still okay.. I play either solo or with my friend, so yea, dun care about the other gear.. like why would we even care, just play the game and enjoy it..
Fun fact, you can change your build in practice mode in "Training Menu" without having to quit and running back to the dummy.
Dope comment, thanks for the tip!
Awesome video but I was thinking this the entire time😂
i wouldnt put crit dmg in any kinds of build cause by endgame you should already be hitting dmg cap so youre just wasting a sigil slot that couldve benefit the character youre playing or other characters and War Elemental i have no idea who said it but if you have it please always equip it cause it gives you a 20% dmg increase whether the boss has an element weakness or not as for Supplementary dmg its free dmg but you really dont need three(100% to proc supplemental dmg) hell you can even put one supplement dmg v which gives you 42% chance to proc supplemental dmg but in a game where youre constantly dealing dmg 42% will trigger quite alot which in that case gives you either one or two free sigil slots to put whatever in maybe improved dodge/guard or steel nerves if your character has stout heart or you have the sigil or garrison if youre playing Vaseraga or aegis or maybe youre a god at dodging and blocking and always getting perfect dodges/guard you can slot in the payback sigils or playing a character with charged attacks you can slot in quick charge or slot in a linked together so all those build videos with three supplemental dmg v isn’t mandatory especially if you dont care about 100% proccing it
100% agreed. Especially if you're just inserting normal V, you're kind of wasting space. I'd opt for 2 Supplementary IV+ with good secondary traits rather than a Supp V. Even 1 Supp IV+, just so it sometimes procs is good enough for me
Just to add, War elemental is a wasted sigil on bosses where you already have an elemental advantage.
Interesting, this will need to be tested extensively 😮
in my opinion it should still be in your build considering that proud bosses have multiple bosses or change elements(pyet) or have ads that have different elements(proto bahamut) and on a sidenote ill say it again war elemental gives you a 20% dmg increase against bosses that have no elemental weakness its just a very beneficial sigil to have
-Good thing to know, the game actually indicates for you if you've hit your damage cap. the number has a line of gold flash through it along with a gold circle in the middle. if you watch for that then theirs no need for guess work as to whether or not you've made it to your damage cap.
-Also Eugen's name is pronounced Oi-Gen with a hard G.
-You can change your gear in the practice mode by pressing esc/start and going to training menu.
You can change sigils, gear and even controlled character from the training menu(the 2nd option from the top). No need to go out every time
Dope comment, we on it! Thanks my man
Yeah, for guys who claim to have played for like a combined time of 500hr's they sure dont seem to know some basic things.
@@asunayuuki1705 come onnn the training one is an easy miss. Our skills show our truth. Stop da cap 🧢
Remind me of that one youtuber who made a video about Charlotta's tech. It's fun and game till he denied that he didn't cheat his glass cannon 5+ and supp 5+ sigils with perfect lines =))
tell em "STOP DA CAP"
From someone who own consol but also a gaming pc..
With the trainer i indulge myself into infinite curio box, end up doing around 50.000 box gachas before i need to stop because i reach the 5.000 sigil limit and decided to stop right there... out of that i got only 31 V+ supp damage with most of them roll into junky 2nd stat like provoke or rupie or any resistance which is kinda useless. For war elemental and supp V they drop quite often so if you feel like not getting any war elemental believe me you'll be getting it soon enough just keep farming, but if you're into optimal build like V+ supp with uplift or cascade or nible by doing it legit way i can only say good luck and keep farming
This guy literally had Eugen’s sigils right before he closes out the menu. He pauses on all of them and even has the awakened version with both perks on it. 16:03 veteran = Eugen
The version of the game might matter : to be able to AFK farm more than 10 quests during the night, you'd have to be on one of the first versions of the game. Maybe the drop rate was also different?
Anyway, for what it's worth, on the current version of the game, having obtained all Terminus weapons and maxed half of them, doing a lot of AFK farming... I have 3 Supplementary Damage V, and 2 IV+ with garbage side perks.
With the number of sigil slots we are given, and the number of slots occupied with offensive sigils to reach the damage cap after pushing said cap by 65 lvl of "Damage cap" ; unless you have decent side perks on a Supplementary Damage sigil, it's not worth slotting. You're better off with alternative ways to boost your damage such as reducing CD of skills, or Celestial Arts.
At Reaching Proud mode it absolutely cannot be expected that you have a War Elemental or Supp 5.
It took forever for me to get them
Now, when people got SuppV+ sigil when they got really lucky by truly play the game...people just gonna call him "cheat" XD
I said already it gonna kill the community. Cant deny people can use save scum(it ok), but yeah curios the only problem. But yeah there "third party" mods can be use out there XD and only because of CURIOS hahaha
Well in the end it just Solo game player. Do whatever you like. Most people got no time to farm 24/7 on the game infront of Tv/Pc
At least they already paid 60dollar for the game, so just do whatever you want dude :)
Right, to each their own. We just wanted to address this, so people aren't watching these build videos and going out to farm, just to realize 100 days later that Supplementary Damage V+ still hasn't dropped for them :/
Yes and no. It's an unfortunate consequence, but like we stated you can have the perfect build and still be trash ☺
I personally only think about damage after slotting any V+ with these
- Potion Hoarder 15
- Guts 15
- Autorevive 15
- Improved Dodge 15
- Improved Guard 15
Definitely a good idea when you're still learning how to position and fight bosses. You don't want to be the person being picked up every 10 seconds lol
SOLID!
@@0urSpace yes it is!
I actually have a 1 Supplementary V+ with an Auto Life substat which drop for me when I was still progressing through Maniac to unlock Proud. I saw it and thought oh it's only a chance activation and I never equipped it, I sorta just left it in inventory till I saw the 100k curio reddit post and realised how rare it was. So I guess I lucked out and I haven't seen a V+ ever since and I've gotten almost all the Terminus Weapons and have probably identified hundreds upon hundreds Curios and still no Supp V+ aside from that one I've gotten.
Wow.... Lucky bro!
Got 2 Supp V+ at 130h. Second stat is crap though. One is fast learner and other is low profile which is fine. Also got 3 war elementals.
Havent gotten any CritRate V+ with aegis/uplift/dmg cap, or Dmg cap V+ with crit rate/aegis. Seeing so many flex those.
Thanks, this is the most real video to understand your maximun dps and how to improve without any cheat. Love your content and hope you get the recon that you guys deserve, suscribed ❤😊
Dope ass comment! Thanks for taking out the time to watch, sub and comment, we all really appreciate it! ❤
What buffles me the most is that between all these sigils we always end up using dmg cap and tyranny. I mean why should I use others like attack or stamina or combo booster or crit dmg or charge atk dmg if I can reach my dmg cap that easily with these? I really don't understand
I think its cause endgame, multipliers benefit more from flat stats? I know stamina is still quite good for endgame not sure about others tho
U don’t need to exit the dummy every time, just go to training menu
Subscribed cause the way you explained everything was perfect!!!! Super easy to understand the concept of damage caps now. Thank you so much
I'm so glad it helped! And big thank you for the sub!
Funny thing is. I got all of my terminus weapons already with ZERO supplementary dmg sigil yet 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
yeah them sigils are no joke, but a bit of RNG luck is also possible...
Help me, then 😅
I’ve opened over 400 curios boxes and haven’t got one Supplemental Dmg or War Element sigils. And yes I’m on Proud difficulty. It really sucks.
Does it matter if you get your Box on pride or maniac for the droprate of good Sigils?
opened around two thousand curious, havent had a single war elemental drop, and had piles of supplementary damage..... they were not great supplementary damage sigils but i did get them a lot
weird that the opposite for me , i had pretty quickly a ton of war elemental and AFK farmed for the character specigic sigils with both good traits exclusive ... but i got like 2 Supplementary damage in total and i opened around 1000 or more curios , ( im at 450 hours total ) .. the RNG is killing me in this game some drops are so rare .
Yeah i don't understand how people were getting supplementary dmg.
The other day i finally managed to save up 60 curios after 3 days of questing regularly and only just got my first war elemental with everything else being garbage-esque sigils like life-on-the-line IV+ with improved healing.
yeah it's tough and it sucks, but playing the game as intended will bring more joy than doing it the alternative way 😁
Let us send a lot of feedback to cygames, to make the grinding not this nonsense, while the update isn't out yet, we can still voice our opinion to devs and make them listen, i was not trying to be asshole or some shit, but i did this because i love this game so much..
Just as you did with Eugene as an example also noticed for my characters that around 9.4k attack is enough. After that, you can focus on other sigils.
one thing is buggin me , with vane for exemple , despite having damage cap V+ equipped at lv 69 + Supplementary damage V+ and V , i always see when he does his final combo spinning in the air an icon next to the hit values , this icon is Cap damage , something like this it is very little to notice while playing lucilius , but does this means all is okay ? or that i missed something ? thx
Tyranny V x3 is way overkill. Same goes for Concentrated Fire V x3. Not having all Sigil slots is already a good indicator that the character isn't "at endgame", so this looks a lot more like a early post-game progression guide.
The most baseline build for endgame is just getting a total of 65 levels in Damage cap, 100% crit rate by mixing over mastery bonuses and sigils (charge attack-based characters can use Lucky Charge instead of Crit Rate sigils here), and probably something like Tyranny and Stamina. You still have some space for Aegis, Garrison and the character's sigil. This + the base stats from Ascension / Terminus weapons is usually enough to reach your max damage on most characters, minus skills with extremely high caps such as Io's Flowery Seven, while still keeping some survivability. You can also get defensive options from the second skills on sigils (like dmg cap + autorivive, Aegis + guts, and so on).
Most of what I just said here is achievable before you're likely to get your first War Elemental. The rest, like supp damage, is cherry on top if you can get it.
New player here. It was a good video! Explained very succinctly how to find your damage cap/dps.
Thanks a lot guys, i was trying to have a feeling to what i should look when building my characters, it helped a lot
ah thanks man for dropping a comment! we have wayyyy more informative videos coming so stay tuned and thanks for hanging out with us.
Fun fact : you know you are hitting cap when you see the same numbers highlighted yellow and then blue outline with exclamation point .
I'm personally close to 70 hours in the game, beat all the available quests and haven't gotten either war elemental or supp damage sigils (or the potion related exclusive). Not just no +sigils, not even the base versions (and I think supp damage can even roll at IV?).
I'm also "only" at two terminus weapon drops, while two of my mates have been getting terminus drops pretty much back to back to back.
Game definitely feels a little rigged at times.
Yeah, I feel you. After my first few terminus weapons, it's taking me forever to find another one... :(
We got a video coming for you soon so stay tuned!
@@sYs-tems Fun fact, a few minutes after writing this comment I got... my frist potent green XD
I'm gonna comment here hoping i can steal some of that lucky and get a terminus or good sigil. i'm also still looking at no supplementary damage and no war elemental.
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@@devyncole2043 They are dropping eventually, right. RIGHT?
I'm clocking in 200+ hours on this game and I only got 1 supp V+ which thankfully has uplift on it as secondary but wish it had quick cool down
Congratulations man! Hopefully we can find ourselves one too! Enjoy it!
Thats nice i got my first sup+ with aegis as a side effect which is kinda counterproductive the Terminus weapons and forces me to run tyrrany lulz ._.
Wow i hope on my first sup+ i dont have bs second trait
@@Leislityranny + aegis is more hp than not running tyranny anyways
I'm only on hard mode. Just completed the story yesterday... I opened up 1 of my curios and got a supplementary damage one. Of course it's not a V+. I also got a rainbow prism, which I have no idea what ots for lol.
that's super clutch man keep on going the game ramps up with time!
HAHAHAH That intro was insane. Personally, I found When I Put one Stamina, one Life on the line, Plus, one more Dmg Multiplier of your choice (whether it be Concentrated Fire for ranged or Tyranny for example) is when I hit the Dmg CAP (with Fully upgraded Masteries, Plus a Stinger Weapon). Now, Idk how consistent this formula is across all characters but My point is, Putting more than one Sigil of the same name when it comes to Dmg multipliers (Excluding Dmg CAP and Supplemental Dmg) will Probably Not be efficient for your Sigil slots giving that the bonus really diminishes at higher levels, you're better off with a different Dmg Amp sigil. What Iam really curious about is, how Worth is a Bahamut weapon really Compared to other weapons Fully upgraded?. Like, How worth is 100% Dmg cap from catastrophe practically?
terminus weapon are worth honestly essential for your build did some testing with Ferry with sigils Life On the Line, stamina, tyranny, and war elemental equipped with non Terminus weapon, five dmg cap, and +99 mirage munitions i was only hitting 79914 compared to with a fully awakened Terminus weapon +99 where i was hitting 97912(max dmg with Ferry unless you have glass cannon) with less dmg cap due to innate dmg cap from awakened weapons so theres a 22% damage difference and do remember +99 on Terminus weapon gives you 6283 atk making it the highest weapon with atk
Symmetry, my Jeeta build showcases this in full. Coming today or tomorrow ☺. Thanks though, great comment - Lyt work 😉
My score on Bahamut with Charllota before the Ter Weapon was 10m-13m after the Ter Weapon and Supl sigil is 18m-16m my highest score was 18.9m but ofc with the perfect performance so that is how worth the Term weapons for you there is no compare at all it is no brainer the best for the max dps
The terminus weapons are objectively the best weapons in the game for EVERY character. They give the biggest stat boost with it's flat attack, (at lvl 1 is like 1,500ish attack) when ascended ya get damage cap ect.
The upgrade routes on skill tree for the weapon are quite big DMG cap buffs and the catastrophe DMG cap +100% and +50% attack stack with other sigils.
I believe even if your maxed on DMG cap (250% increase) the catastrophe from Terminus buffs your DMG cap to 350% overall so it's absolutely essential to get it for your characters
The stats from some sigils are multiplicative off each other for example it’s never worth it to run multiple tyranny sigils you get a much better buff from just 1 tyranny and 1 stamina not sure if this was mentioned since I’m not all the way through the video tbh but I just thought I’d mention that
Very great point, I have a video coming about build symmetry where I go over the finer points of what you mentioned above. Nonetheless great post and thanks for taking the time out to check us out!
One thing is that you doing this on an ascension weapon that isnt awakened. A better weapon to use at this stage is the crit one. It has the MUCH higher base attack than unawakened ascension (even with the lvl 25 attack trait, you need lvl 35-45+ to finally make that trait decent) and helps you crit more consistently instead of only ~50% and crits are huge for capping damage. Ascnesion weapon relies more on being awakened or at least having good sigils and imbues (i.e. "enough" crit rate and lvl 45+ attack). The crit damage masteries from the crit weapon are good for capping early too and carry over to other weapons.
Just as an aside, when you have fully levelled weapons, particularly the Terminus weapon, you often only need 1 damage boosting sigil like Stamina or Tyranny. You won't necessarily need to stack on 3 Tyranny sigils to reach max damage because your base attack will be so much higher. Another note to make is the difference between a percentage attack increase like Tyranny and a percentage damage increase like Concentrated Fire or Combo Booster. If you have high base attack, running one Combo Booster, which increases your damage by 70%, may be a good option as well. It just depends on what your character does.
Great insight and advice. It also varies from character to character, so everyone should take some time to go hit that dummy or bosses if you don't want to waste sigil slots.
haha i love this video, thank god someone calling them out. I've seen some of the videos and they said "just get lucky" and they got 3 Supp V+ with some good stuff
tgis has been the best build guide i have seen for this game yet, loved how you broke down the process
My man! thanks for the comment! we really appreciate the time you took out to watch our video!
Fyi you do have Eugen's awakening. It's called veteran, and you even scrolled right over it.
You can change skills and gear while in practice ao you dont have to exit out everytime.
Great video very informative. Especially since i was struggling to figure out the damage cap and builds.
How
@Lee-sf7nw while in practice press the start button/get to the menu. Change your gear/skills back out of menu and it will restart the training
I made a video showing how they mess with the sigils (not in detail) and been getting a lot of flack. People don't seem to care even tho it makes multiplayer fights even easier when everyone is a god.
yeah, we totally understand, look at this video for example more than 30 dislikes lol...
Yea you are correct, it's a T4 curio drop which is a 3% and Supplementary Damage V+ (0.3% - 30) to appear in the T4 chest.
Getting sup lV+ is a better goal to set.
supp v+ is just a trophy then anything else.
I actually don't mind if youtubers have these full perfect supplementary damage V+ builds cheat or not, for showing end game min-max purposes, but fully putting supplementary V+ as standard ONLY guide without showing or guiding what to buildup first before supplementary damage V+ is a no.
seeing too many "damage" bahamut guides lately, but when you put them on multiboss area + mobs they die soo easily. specially those melee characters that doesn't have any kind of defense sigils.
2 dragon proud dragons swooping around, they die immediately.
very very true, it's unrealistic and not fair to the viewer, which is why we made this video. Thanks for taking the time out to check out and for dropping us comment.
Just an advice here, maybe next time write a concise script for the video, record it and then record the gameplay, combine them together in editing software, this way the video quality will be much higher, and it is more efficient than improvise with thoughts in mind. This video could've been a 5 min video instead of 20+ min, some nice info though, carry on!!!
we gotcha!! Thanks for the feedback, great post.
"War Elemental and normal Supplementary Damage V Sigils are fairly easy to find. If you've made it to proud mode it wouldn't be surprising to have a few of these"
Meanwhile, me at 120 hours and days of grinding Proud mode: NOT ONE.
Very informative. Thank you guys.
thanks for watching! and thanks for dropping a comment as well, we really appreciate it
Thank you for this video. Now I understand how to build my characters other than copying someone build I see online.
One advice from me. If you see content creator, using supp dmg V+ 3x + war elemental, just take it as reference on how much one character can do the damage. Don't take it as a "Standard" build. The game doesn't have PvP content, so why would we even bother? just play the way you do and enjoy the content that the game has to offer.
Anyway, may the RNG bless you with your drop on whatever you wish for!! Have a nice day owo b
Exactly! We share the same view as a team. Everyone can do what they want, but just take what you see out there with a grain of salt when it comes to what you should be expecting to find in the game. We just hope that people don't waste too much time grinding for items with astronomically low drop rates, and rather spend their time enjoying the game or working on their player skills.
Is there a way to see how many curios you've opened? Still havent seen a single one of those and I've maxxed out 1 ascension and 5 start the other 4 for my ai teammate.
U don’t need to go through all this trouble to see if you’re hitting the damage cap. The damage number will have a yellow glow if you’re hitting it.
No Yellow means you have the correct element, with war Ele you always see yellow numbers
Thats a yellow number, he's talking about the glow. @ir0fl779
Great video. Also, im pretty sure you actually did have Eugen's character sigil.
Yeah I did
finally someone made a video about this. players with supp dmg v+ with utility sigils (improved dodge, potion hoarder. etc.) and they're posting their builds on yt were kinda sus! it's kinda convenient isn't! (imma cheat in the game no one gonna notice it they're just TRASH SUBSTATS anyways) HYPOCRITES!
yeah I feel you man, cheaters are a bad look in anything, but we have to keep on trucking and look for ways to differentiate ourselves from them...
hopefully there would be one hell of an update in the future like hardcore raids which prioritize mechanics rather than braindead dps where supp dmg is not the top priority on character building.
STOP THE CAP RIGH NOW!
So Supp+ sigils being really rare I can understand but I can also understand that with hundreds of thousands of people playing the game there would be a small chance that tens of people are getting a few of them from RNG.
The problem is that it's not RNG, the curios are static drops. We know this because you can't save scum the curios like you can with transmarvels.
@@Exodus311 They are still RNG we just dont know what they are until appraisal. Like save scumming wasnt suppose to be something we do to get sigils but most likely the devs didnt care because the powerful stuff was in curios.
@@Exodus311it is rng, its not rng if you cheated, random when you first hit it, then they lock the seed
150h in game, was afk farming and uuuuuh yeah I've got GIGA lucky considering that I've got 3 war elems, 3 VI+ sup dmg(aegis, +exp and nimble unsought) and 1 V sup dmg...
Ok, so now if someone show me their collections of Supp. DMG V+ sigils, I'll just ask are they playing on PC or PS, lol.
I have 2 supplementary 4+ with usable subs after 120 hour while one of my friends got the 5 version in his 100 hour..
But right now i'm almost on 150 hour no more supplementary damage lol
we know the pain...let us all bow our heads in prayer to the RNG GODS
did 150 curios and got 2 war elementals no sup damage yet though
I mean training dummy isnt best way to tell how far your dmg is...as each boss has different ele res/def so ye but thats just imo
nah you are right, damage will vary but ever so slightly. Thanks for the comment and your time!
Wow this video just showed me I was doing it all wrong! I was maxing damage cap first, fuck that atk cap is priority!!😮
yay! we are glad that you took something from these videos! thanks for hanging out and watching!
I feel nobody has asked how the guy opened 100k curios with how long the game has been out.
He stated it on the post he cheated for research purposes
wouldn't be rare to have a supplementary damage or war elemental by proud. uhhhhhhhhhhhhh Damn I'm unlucky. ive been grinding away a long time.....
yeah it be like that out here in these RNG streets, but best of luck to you and the grind my man.
Still without war elemental. It's been 13,628 curios since proud mode. And yes, I'm counting because I'm salty af.
I got a supp v+ in about 1100 curios, however the extra skill on it was ass.
yeah we all must pray to the RNG GODS
Holy cow. 100,000 curios. Thats crazy.
righttttt, super duper crazy
This helped me out alot. 17:33 thank you so much!
There's always a late game build. But they never show you an alternative build for those who don't have the sigils
dude if youre at cap they put a slash through ur #s... look closely. dont need any other methods of telling
hehehe absolutely right! we'll have a new video with a shout out to you and others on the helpful tip! thanks for watching though.
This is one of the videos that blames lucky player with supp V+ sigils as cheater
I know people who have more than 3 and the got them legit ( it was streamed)
Its not Impossible to get them
Its just Rare as fuck
That's not our intention here. This is one of the videos that wants people to have proper expectations and not waste 100 days farming for curios when they could have been doing other things to enjoy the game. To each their own either way, and if it was legit, no one can take that away from you.
3. That's rookie numbers. You search on social platform that showcase build and dps. Every characters their own even AI, got 3 to 4 supplementary sigils. Everyone with good second stats. I'm here thought that easy to farm when i just got lucky with 1.
300h gameplay in I got 5 war elemental and 6 supplementary dmg v. Still no V+ yet.
yeah it is tough out here in these RNG streets for reals! good luck on your quest to finding one, we are all still looking as well.
Rather than looking for supp dmg V I Ioved to play safe with adding aegis + garrison with good subs like guts, potion, and autorevive. What's good for high dps but you keep dead every minute. I believe fighting Lucilius you want to play safe and not being a burden to other player.
I hole heartily approve this post!
Thank you this clears up a lot but I also dislike the game forces you to play a certain way
And tbh people keep complain about the build only need supV+ but where and how to get it they don't even know LOL
I needed this explanation! Thanks!
Out of curiosity, I cheated infinite curios and rolled 10,000 of them. I got exactly 1 Supp V+, and it had Blight Resistance ie. pretty much useless. Unclear if my seed for those rolls is permanent, but either way...
Yeah, I''ll pass.
hahahahahhahaha so we can see that even with the mods to hack the curious, that it is still a hard ass drop...crazy. Thanks for watching and contributing towards Gaming Science
found 1 supp v+ with provoke after 15 hours 1 shooting fire elemental beast on vh after that i've stopped farming curio and gone back to leveling terminus weapons. 250 hours plus and the one i got is worst than the non V+. clear time is 10-15 sec for the quest curio is like a 2/3 quest ratio.
I’m at the point where I have my terminus weapon for my main, maxed all the Sigils I want for my build, and pretty much every other character that I’d want to play in a good place. I don’t see why I need to farm for anything else.
i've got a level 100 zeta, Which sigals are best for her?
Depends a lot on your play style, which weapon and skills you use, who you're fighting etc.
You can join our server if you wanna play together and/or we can help you with your specific build.
You could acces to menu directly into training mode withe training menu
thanks, very helpful tip! and thanks for watching as well!
I opened about 300 and got no war elementar or sup dmg...
Crossing 100 hours rn but haven’t got a single War Elem yet 😢
you'll find one, everyone's RNG is different and that sigil is rare, but achievable.
Finally got it today!
Thank you for the power 🤝
I've been playing the game non stop since release and I've been also afk farming. Ive got 2 war elementals and only ONE supplementary dmg 5...ONE!!! Like...having supplementary dmg 5+ is just a fever dream haha
Right. You're better off using what you have, and practicing hard boss fights.
@@sYs-tems Exactly, would it be nice if I did more than 1m to the boss with Percivals charged attack? Sure, but I still do 1m of dmg, so...who cares? :D
I say in end game, its definitely not all about dps. Alot builds should have some survivable in proud difficulty. Its sad to see players focus on straight damage just bc they see youtubers do that against a practice dummy.
Got in around 130ish hours clocked in, cleared all the content, and doing it on farm now solo easy. got aprox 4 maxed out terminus weapons and 1 more droped. out off all the curios i got 3 war elementals, couple of roll the die (did not count the berserks tbh) and just 1 and only plane V suppl dmg.... my friend with simmilar hours got 2x4 (maby 1 of them is 4+). But from what i gather the game is not protected so ppl can use cheat engins to pretty much give their asses what they need also i saw some video witch done a nexus mod for the game that enables a random spawniing of few supp dmg sigils at random in the store for dallia bages including 5+ (witch is a coool idea imo since u get 1 per day and if u lucky with subb roll u go for it) but considering the game is not eaven a month old i am sure the developers will do some changes, personaly hoping for gambling on mass with the vauchers for sigils couse pressing 1by 1 is draining my soul. GL out there with farming and hope u enjoy the game.
I totally agree with this - we are all passionate and hoping that the games continues to provide support and growth (an anti cheat engine would be nice as well)
Meanwhile here with roughly 120hrs+ playtime.
So far x4 War Elemental (which was indeed lucky)
But for Supplementary DMG
x1 level 3 and x2 level 4+ (with, meh sub stat)
So getting a Supplementary damage V is like insane luck.
lol ... "I don't have Eugen character specific sigils yet" ... proceeds to scroll past Veteran's Insight, Vision, and Awakening .... 😂
nothing but truth spoken here
my man, thanks for hanging out and watching!
Thats a Sub from me, good content! cool dudes!
ah thanks man! come play with us whenever time permits!
@@sYs-tems yeah, i joind the discord, finding people, who wanna play this for the long term, is great.
@@sYs-tems i tested Ur build guid and save 6 sigils ... Much thanks ♥️
1:44 so most youtubers posting builds are cheating? wtf^^
Id have to say the more annoying thing with bmg cap is that it's inconsistent across the same unit. For example blue stance narmaya is hitting cap in her basics but swap to pink and oh I'm no longer capped?
Very true, we plan to go through every character and it is something we are currently working on ☺
Each character has a different nuance and should be built differently. Symmetry being mandatory ☺
FYI, Namaya's blue stance's normal attack cap is 43514, and for pink stance it is 108794; also normal attack dmg cap doesn't represent for skill dmg cap, combo attack's dmg cap and awakening's damage cap.
From what I've seen from testing each character attack/ability has a different cap number that gets multiplied by your damage cap percentage.
Is it normal that i'm still reaching the dmg cap with 10950 atk even with 65 dmg cap sigil ?
You have to now increase your attack dmg. Stamina, Tyranny, Glass Canon, Life on the Line, crit hit chance, aegis, and overall attack sigils will suffice. Be sure to also use imbuements, mastered, and level up your alt weapons. Let us know if that works.
Oh and Supplementaries work as well, they are similar to Echo damage in past Granblue titles.
@@sYs-tems i mean like i have 6 dmg cap V (for max dmg cap value), 1 stamina, 1 tyranny, 1 aegis, 2 counter dodge, and 1 awakening.
If i trade for example my counter dodge sigils, for another tyranny, my dmg stay the same even tho i only have around 10500 atk. Meanwhile i see people with 25000 atk so i wonder if there's something else i'm missing.
I know glass canon raises the cap even further but i'm not good enough to perfectly dogde every attack. I'm still early in proud but still wondering.
They might need this much atk for something specific like(iirc) Rack jump charge attack have rly high DMG cap so to cap it you need a lot of dmg sigils
I don't know man. It took me almost 25min with my current cap to kill bahamut versas so it makes me really scared for whats to come next >_
Okay so how did he farm 100k curios if it would take months to farm it? The game's been out for 2 weeks.
Guy cheated his sigils.
yes he did, but all in the name of science His thread is in our description as well