(This is going to be a little bit lengthy, bear with me here) Vas is a character I have been learning recently: the dodge cancel trick is harder than it looks esp if done in rapid successions, and imo is a high risk, high reward style: somewhat in-line with Vas as a character. He is essentially MH's Greatsword in Relink. One thing to consider is that a whiff of a L-dodge will end up essentially eating away all the time saved from successful dodges (since you do 1 hit smaller hit if you ended with in charge stance, then you can L-dodge again for your proper combo). If you screwed up really bad and ended up doing the roar, then its essentially a loss of 5 seconds of uptime. For some bosses, you may even have missed your window to attack. Thus I would recommend people to not be afraid to just do regular LLHHs until they feel confident with dodge cancel, especially during SBA chains: you may end up just losing a lot of damage over a 3 second reduction to your combo (you can see Enel also whiffing a few times as great as he is). Dodge cancel may be the optimal way to play, but if you end up just rolling left and right in front of a boss and never dealing any damage, you might as well have just... eat that loss in dps. I have been practicing for a few days and still screw up now and then (learning how to recover from a screw up is also kind of important, remember to just do another L-dodge to go back to combo B). Some things not mentioned/is only slightly touched upon in the video is that due to damage cap (should be around 1.6mil), it is very easy to cap 3 of the 4 hits. What this means is that he can be oddly flexible with sigil choices. Due to him having built in Stout Heart, Steel Nerves is a great secondary to have somewhere. A combination of Steel Nerves, Potion Hoarder, Aegis along with his gauge's defense buff and Stout Heart's passive reduction can make him really tanky. Guts is also a nice pick since losing a combo due to death is a big dps loss. If you are using Stamina, get into the habit of potting up while charging your combo. His finishers also act as a parry with what I consider to be a rather generous window. Working firm stance into his build along with a rank 4 firm stance on his weapon (so rank 20 = 80%) can give him push immunity due to having passive 20% push back resist. This will prevent overdrive knockback from interrupting your combo, and opens up some window for damaging such as with Furycane's first tornado phase. Still do LLHH during link time. Sadly, unlike Ghanda and Charlotta, Vas' linked time is a bit on the mediocre side. By itself his SBA is a dps loss. Imo I would use it as a CC/only if it can be chained by others ( For bosses with adds such as Pyet-A Firefly (which was skipped in the video) or baha crystals, you may find it more beneficial to just L-dodge into a held charge, The charge will still do 1.6mil on contact. There are videos of people doing a perma undying build out there. It may be frowned upon on the unofficial GBF discord, but it is still a tool available in the box. Your dps will not be great, but it is still an option. Vas is a pretty fun character to play, would def recommend.
I forgot to mention the parry thing or bring up steel nerves so apologies for that, was a bit out of it making this but tried to remember to cover everything. great comment
LLHH? And thank you because of this I've learn more about him, like him have a 20% passive firm stance. Also does he have that all the time or only when grynoth is active?
So I've been playing the absolute shit out of relink and I wanted to thank you for your amazing guide content. I've been watching you for a while and your guides have helped me understand some of my favourite games just a little bit better. Thank you for everything you do, and I hope you have a wonderful and blessed day too. P.S. take a break, you're sick. We'll be here when you get better
I picked Vaseraga as the first character to get from the first free ticket. And i am in love with how he plays. I cant wait to get to endgame with him 😂😎😎
I picked Vas and have poured enough time into him that I just wanna max him out as best i can, and I just... like the idea of constantly having Stout Heart as a mechanic.
Im so stoked u found a game u seem to like as much as xenoblade. I still think xenoblade 2 was severely underrated since so many people got turned off by the first few hrs, but wow we better get an upgraded version with the next switch for sure
I don't know if you notice too but everytime you talk a small buzzing noise in the background. I think you should check on your mic. Also thanks for the video, vas also my favorite
Enel! Clutch! I’ve been waiting for Vas Guide! Thank you so much bro! Hope you feel better soon brotha 🙏🏻🤘🏻 I just have 1 question for you, so sorry! What Teammates would you recommend for Vas?? I was thinking Cag - Support , Narma - DPS , Lancelot - DPS (Freeze/Ice)
Lucky charge makes critical hit rate absolutely useless, you are absolutely right. Just having ONE Lucky charge with a base 50% crit rate makes every charge attack hit crit. I hope your comment gets seen cause this is important. The only advantage to having the crit rate would be to make the light attacks crit as well, but if you are mainly doing charges anyway, it doesn't matter, you could save that extra slot for something like steel nerves or firm stance.
the thing is lucky charge is a red trait while critical hit rate is a white trait, the main reason I'm running the critical hit rate ups is because you can get an additional red trait out of it since sigils can't have two of the same color. That said as an inbue effect you can get a lot of value out of it, I just didn't have a great writestone with it.
Ghandagoza can do over 2 milllion (not sup dmg into account, with all stuff dmg cap, war elemental and specific Ghanda sigil) with Rage Fist (100% Eternal Rage), also Io can do some crazy dmg as well, either theses 2 are the heaviest hitter. Not gonna even mention Aerial Rackam...
Slow to damn near stationary but immensely powerful heavy hitters and Offensive healers that have double digit crit rates are tied for my personal favorite playstyles
Thanks for the guides Enel! I've been here since the XBC2 blade guides. Vaseraga seemed intimidating to play, but now I definitely want to build him. I am in Maniac at the moment and I am so nervous about Proto Bahamut. I hope I am good enough to be able to get Terminus weapons. I am in love with Relink's gameplay loop.
@@EnelXC yea I meant suffers as in for example his last charge move not being as good as the second finisher. I don't think he suffers as in he's bad. In fact ferry exists and she has the exact same issue but worse leading to the aerial onslaught gameplay being the viable one.
Just got a pc and got this game on pc and suffering through the story again but I’m doing it with Vaseraga this time and I’m really enjoying him. I prefer ID 10x more but I love the heavy attacks that Vaseraga does.
I'm starting to doubt if running Supplementary Damage, especially fewer than 3 maxed out ones, is worth it with Vaseraga. That's 3 slots that you can use for a lot of other really useful traits, like more Quick Charge, Untouchable, Steel Nerves, or even Linked Together. Running 2 Supps on other characters is good enough because of how fast they hit, but missing a proc one in four times with Vaseraga is a bummer, especially with how you occasionally mistime or are forced to stop attacking anyway because of the enemy moving or doing their scripted ult. Maybe building a stun team is better because more link time means more charged attacks and more survivability? I'll have to try that out.
Yeah this is definitely a decent option to have or consider but it's also an orange sigil slot so may be best to get it as a weapon trait since you can get 30% with only a level 6 there
well what I mean is you can get more damage based orange sigil traits by not running it since sigils can only have one orange trait each. Crit up counts as a white trait so i can get both stamina and tyranny out of it. An imbue trait is the best bet for it if you have a good writestone for that. @@Poptienza03
My Vaseraga is built around Undying uptime, so running Ebony Poise in that case is a must. Also, I will need to test with the 2nd combo, but the strongest charge attack is already hitting the cap without adding any additional damage sigils. I feel I get more benefit from putting overdrive assassin.
Also by being yodarha his multiple ways of pushback and overall avoidance of everything ill be like in the middle of a skill not getting pushed back or in the middle of a combo finisher
While this build might be optimal it's also boring af (basically increase your DPS by 15% but reduce fun by 80%) and because you focus on it so much by the end of the video it feels like you barely explored the character.
Damn. Was excited to see how to optimise Vaseraga because I love his skills and how they use his health as a resource, but seeing how his optimal playstyle works is disappointing. A lot more boring than I thought. Think I'll use someone else. :(
me when the boss bends over to pick a quarter up off the ground and my 20000000 dmg attack misses
As a Vaseraga player, I can relate.
When getting a break is actually bad because it makes the boss fall over, away from you and out of range.
@@omegaxtrigun I hate it when it happens...
LMAO
(This is going to be a little bit lengthy, bear with me here)
Vas is a character I have been learning recently: the dodge cancel trick is harder than it looks esp if done in rapid successions, and imo is a high risk, high reward style: somewhat in-line with Vas as a character. He is essentially MH's Greatsword in Relink.
One thing to consider is that a whiff of a L-dodge will end up essentially eating away all the time saved from successful dodges (since you do 1 hit smaller hit if you ended with in charge stance, then you can L-dodge again for your proper combo). If you screwed up really bad and ended up doing the roar, then its essentially a loss of 5 seconds of uptime. For some bosses, you may even have missed your window to attack.
Thus I would recommend people to not be afraid to just do regular LLHHs until they feel confident with dodge cancel, especially during SBA chains: you may end up just losing a lot of damage over a 3 second reduction to your combo (you can see Enel also whiffing a few times as great as he is). Dodge cancel may be the optimal way to play, but if you end up just rolling left and right in front of a boss and never dealing any damage, you might as well have just... eat that loss in dps. I have been practicing for a few days and still screw up now and then (learning how to recover from a screw up is also kind of important, remember to just do another L-dodge to go back to combo B).
Some things not mentioned/is only slightly touched upon in the video is that due to damage cap (should be around 1.6mil), it is very easy to cap 3 of the 4 hits. What this means is that he can be oddly flexible with sigil choices. Due to him having built in Stout Heart, Steel Nerves is a great secondary to have somewhere. A combination of Steel Nerves, Potion Hoarder, Aegis along with his gauge's defense buff and Stout Heart's passive reduction can make him really tanky. Guts is also a nice pick since losing a combo due to death is a big dps loss. If you are using Stamina, get into the habit of potting up while charging your combo.
His finishers also act as a parry with what I consider to be a rather generous window.
Working firm stance into his build along with a rank 4 firm stance on his weapon (so rank 20 = 80%) can give him push immunity due to having passive 20% push back resist. This will prevent overdrive knockback from interrupting your combo, and opens up some window for damaging such as with Furycane's first tornado phase.
Still do LLHH during link time. Sadly, unlike Ghanda and Charlotta, Vas' linked time is a bit on the mediocre side.
By itself his SBA is a dps loss. Imo I would use it as a CC/only if it can be chained by others (
For bosses with adds such as Pyet-A Firefly (which was skipped in the video) or baha crystals, you may find it more beneficial to just L-dodge into a held charge, The charge will still do 1.6mil on contact.
There are videos of people doing a perma undying build out there. It may be frowned upon on the unofficial GBF discord, but it is still a tool available in the box. Your dps will not be great, but it is still an option.
Vas is a pretty fun character to play, would def recommend.
I forgot to mention the parry thing or bring up steel nerves so apologies for that, was a bit out of it making this but tried to remember to cover everything. great comment
Well said
LLHH? And thank you because of this I've learn more about him, like him have a 20% passive firm stance. Also does he have that all the time or only when grynoth is active?
@@zer0rama572 light light heavy heavy
Doesn't steel nerves only up your defense by 15% total? Feels like a legit waste if that's the case.
Thanks for making this video even though you were sick. Hope you feel better Enel.
Another informative video from Enel. Hope you feel better soon man.
Holy shit Relink guides from Enel??? thats awesome
Great video enel keep it up was waiting for another guide waiting on the cagliostro guide
Get well Enel! Thank you for the guide even though you were sick. That is true dedication man.
Hope you feel better soon.
So I've been playing the absolute shit out of relink and I wanted to thank you for your amazing guide content. I've been watching you for a while and your guides have helped me understand some of my favourite games just a little bit better. Thank you for everything you do, and I hope you have a wonderful and blessed day too. P.S. take a break, you're sick. We'll be here when you get better
I picked Vaseraga as the first character to get from the first free ticket. And i am in love with how he plays. I cant wait to get to endgame with him 😂😎😎
feel better soon man! :)
really great video :)
I picked Vas and have poured enough time into him that I just wanna max him out as best i can, and I just... like the idea of constantly having Stout Heart as a mechanic.
Hope you get better soon
Im so stoked u found a game u seem to like as much as xenoblade. I still think xenoblade 2 was severely underrated since so many people got turned off by the first few hrs, but wow we better get an upgraded version with the next switch for sure
AYYY may have been one late, but you did Vaseraga LOL
I don't know if you notice too but everytime you talk a small buzzing noise in the background. I think you should check on your mic. Also thanks for the video, vas also my favorite
Enel! Clutch! I’ve been waiting for Vas Guide! Thank you so much bro! Hope you feel better soon brotha 🙏🏻🤘🏻 I just have 1 question for you, so sorry! What Teammates would you recommend for Vas?? I was thinking Cag - Support , Narma - DPS , Lancelot - DPS (Freeze/Ice)
Hope they support this game for years to come~
wouldn't taking one lucky charge better than taking two critical hit rate sigils? since all your damage is charges attack anyway?
Lucky charge makes critical hit rate absolutely useless, you are absolutely right. Just having ONE Lucky charge with a base 50% crit rate makes every charge attack hit crit. I hope your comment gets seen cause this is important. The only advantage to having the crit rate would be to make the light attacks crit as well, but if you are mainly doing charges anyway, it doesn't matter, you could save that extra slot for something like steel nerves or firm stance.
the thing is lucky charge is a red trait while critical hit rate is a white trait, the main reason I'm running the critical hit rate ups is because you can get an additional red trait out of it since sigils can't have two of the same color.
That said as an inbue effect you can get a lot of value out of it, I just didn't have a great writestone with it.
Ghandagoza can do over 2 milllion (not sup dmg into account, with all stuff dmg cap, war elemental and specific Ghanda sigil) with Rage Fist (100% Eternal Rage), also Io can do some crazy dmg as well, either theses 2 are the heaviest hitter. Not gonna even mention Aerial Rackam...
Slow to damn near stationary but immensely powerful heavy hitters and Offensive healers that have double digit crit rates are tied for my personal favorite playstyles
Thanks for the guides Enel! I've been here since the XBC2 blade guides. Vaseraga seemed intimidating to play, but now I definitely want to build him. I am in Maniac at the moment and I am so nervous about Proto Bahamut. I hope I am good enough to be able to get Terminus weapons. I am in love with Relink's gameplay loop.
Oh poor vaseraga. Unfortunately the one who suffers the most due to dmg caps existance.
(He's still an amazing character, I just like big number)
he still is top 3 so I don't think he's suffering much haha
@@EnelXC yea I meant suffers as in for example his last charge move not being as good as the second finisher. I don't think he suffers as in he's bad. In fact ferry exists and she has the exact same issue but worse leading to the aerial onslaught gameplay being the viable one.
Just got a pc and got this game on pc and suffering through the story again but I’m doing it with Vaseraga this time and I’m really enjoying him. I prefer ID 10x more but I love the heavy attacks that Vaseraga does.
50 mil is wild bro
Best character, he's literally me. Only character that can survive PB's Supernova due to his undying buff
I'm starting to doubt if running Supplementary Damage, especially fewer than 3 maxed out ones, is worth it with Vaseraga.
That's 3 slots that you can use for a lot of other really useful traits, like more Quick Charge, Untouchable, Steel Nerves, or even Linked Together.
Running 2 Supps on other characters is good enough because of how fast they hit, but missing a proc one in four times with Vaseraga is a bummer, especially with how you occasionally mistime or are forced to stop attacking anyway because of the enemy moving or doing their scripted ult.
Maybe building a stun team is better because more link time means more charged attacks and more survivability? I'll have to try that out.
That's a nice POV tho.
Lucky Charge? One Lucky Charge would max or come close for his only real source of damage and make space for another Quick Charge, wouldn't it?
Yeah this is definitely a decent option to have or consider but it's also an orange sigil slot so may be best to get it as a weapon trait since you can get 30% with only a level 6 there
@@EnelXCit still frees up a slot since just one Lucky Charge sigil gives you over 100% on charged attacks with masteries
well what I mean is you can get more damage based orange sigil traits by not running it since sigils can only have one orange trait each. Crit up counts as a white trait so i can get both stamina and tyranny out of it. An imbue trait is the best bet for it if you have a good writestone for that. @@Poptienza03
Lucky charge is great on Vas and Percy. Get it as a secondary on your class sigil and you good to go.
My Vaseraga is built around Undying uptime, so running Ebony Poise in that case is a must.
Also, I will need to test with the 2nd combo, but the strongest charge attack is already hitting the cap without adding any additional damage sigils. I feel I get more benefit from putting overdrive assassin.
That’s why I don’t like play with Vaseraga in party, they totally ignore link attacks 😢
Trust me skip any slow character in this game.
Why?
17:30 "Play XC2" lol.
1 lucky charge can replace both of those crit rate sigils no?
Is chasing the cap of the first hit of Y charge worth it tho?
I disagree with you on Poise there's another playstyle with Vaserage where you can maintain 100% uptime on undying because of it
is there a way to ignore the pushback from the monster going into overdrive?
not sure exactly how to trigger it but I have seen it before
@@EnelXC does the sigil that prevents push/pull while stout heart is active work?
Firm stance is defence stat that ignores pushbacks
Also by being yodarha his multiple ways of pushback and overall avoidance of everything ill be like in the middle of a skill not getting pushed back or in the middle of a combo finisher
wait you guys use potions?
Grinding sigils for this game is like throwing your balls in a vice.
Aint a Granblue game without heavy grinds
i will double dip on releases
Please don't ignore link attacks in multiplayer
Vaseraga Wokege
kat next plz i need guidance
not sure when I'll get to her but I will eventually do not worry
hello
While this build might be optimal it's also boring af (basically increase your DPS by 15% but reduce fun by 80%) and because you focus on it so much by the end of the video it feels like you barely explored the character.
I'm sorry lol
@@EnelXC It's not a big deal, and if you rename the video to something like "optimal dps build" there wont be any complaints, at least not from me.
What build you recommending? Tell me about it so I can try
@@essdee800 Search for DarkHero 2 and Leaflit & Asari. They also make build videos .
Damn. Was excited to see how to optimise Vaseraga because I love his skills and how they use his health as a resource, but seeing how his optimal playstyle works is disappointing. A lot more boring than I thought. Think I'll use someone else. :(
understandable