Man put so much effort into this video. He went through everything with very detailed information which we can all appreciate. I have watched so many videos about VA vs IPS and this is only one that fully covered the subject and explained it perfectly
I bought myself a va panel monitor last year. I’ve also had extreme smearing problems. But I found out that you can eliminate the problem (at least at my monitor) by changing some menu settings and compare them by using the same floating alien website. It took me a while to figure out the best options, but it was worth it. The smearing is almost completely gone.
I have a Philips 4k 43" VA screen that is easily mistaken for a TV, and never had any kind of smearing or anything. It's just a super bright, super colorful screen that does everything I want. If it had high hz (it's only 60) it would make my IPS panel next to it look like a piece of dogcrap (IPS glow + awful contrast = why does this exist).
@@larion2336 Did that involve turning down onboard screen response time settings? Makes the ghosting terrible then.. And then whats the use of a high refresh rate monitor? I bought a premium VA thanks to all the great reviews on it, Worst decision I ever made. Smearing was unbearable to say the least.
VA monitor curred my eye fatigue I had for like 5 yrs from various IPS monitors. I finally figured out what caused my eyes to be always be red and tired. OLED screens do not cause this for me, and VA screens also much easier on my eyes. Maybe this helps someone who is struggling like I was, until I finally came across a post on forum where someone said the same thing about VA panel, I tried it, and immediately noticed the difference, over time my eye fatigue almost completely went away.
Did you have lazy eye where 1 eye doesn't see as well and the other kept taking over? Like split vision? How did you know va can help with eyes? Source?
@@st4r444 I've read of someone saying the same, that IPS panels were more tiring to their eyes and VA was better for eye fatigue. I'm not sure but i would think VA (Vertical Alignment) is easier to distingish the pixels than a twisted pixel like IPS panels have, just my theory.
I've watched a few videos on this. Showing the different effects and artifacts on monitors is not easy at all to do, since it's one thing to be there and watch them with your own eyes, and another thing to show that effect on camera. The way that you managed to do it is just perfect!! Thank you for this. I'll be going for the IPS one :).
The 27" Samsung G7 is the only VA panel with no smearing that I have used. However, the super aggressive curve and less than stellar G-Sync implementation meant that I exchanged it for a 27" Alienware AW2721D IPS flat panel, and I'm much happier. It supports G-Sync Ultimate too, which is important to me.
Interesting take, I went Gigabytee G34-A monitor ( It does 5500:1 contrast ratio after I calibrated it at 300 nits) Yeah it does have black smearing but it's not as bad as you'd think. And something I can live with until I upgrade to OLED. I also have used Nano-IPS technology my secondary monitor is in fact my old one which is a Dell S2721DFGA. The Alienware you have is a faster panel for sure. But I think the low contrast ratio of any IPS kills immersion factor when you are playing games. But really OLED is the only way to go unless there's some VA technology like in the G5 but without all the problems you experienced. I have not seen one yet..
I got a VA panel as an upgrade from my IPS one... I mainly game so it wasn't long before I realised that VA was a BIG mistake. It looks great in some scenarios but the ghosting is horrific... avoid if you only game imo
The general concensus is that in order to get a decent VA panel you have to basically look at the higher end like Samsung Odyssey. The cheaper VA panels tend to not be very good with ghosting, etc. Whereas, cheaper IPS panels don't have quite as much of an issue like this.
@@yahootube90 as someone who recently bought and used the 32in Samsung Odyssey G5, I can confirm that the ghosting is horrific. I was extremely unhappy with it, even when comparing to other VA monitors. I wouldn’t recommend if for gaming.
One of the main reason for backlight bleeding / glow is that the edge backlight systems used in newer monitors are not so uniform. Since monitors are paper thin nowadays, this problem is more worse. Full array led backlit can remove this problem somewhat.
This is a good comparison and informative video. I am a "VA guy" myself...90% of the time, my room is relatively dark and I sit right in front of the monitor. As such, I'm not bothered by VA's gamma shift and I can avoid IPS glow that would be pretty noticeable in dark. Also, only around 1/3 of my time with the monitor is gaming and I don't play fast games, so I don't have to chase after very high pixel response, while I can certainly appreciate much better contrast of VA panels...in short, VA suits my use case pretty well. That doesn't mean I dislike IPS, though, I might get one if it's good...
The same lie here show you the glow of VA QLED panel which is normal even clouding in dark room m.ua-cam.com/video/UaIwB6tkFE0/v-deo.html already ADS-IPS has the same dark of VA panels
@@dontask9383 Hm...it very much depends on the background and how much you scroll and how sensitive to smear you are. But, I'll go with yes, you will probably notice. If you're gonna code a lot IPS is a safer choice. Preferably a 32" 4K monitor but that's a personal choice...
absolutely right, viewing angles are not a concern in case of computer monitors because 99% of time a person is sitting in front of monitor. for a person who watch movies a lot VA high contrast ratio certainly helps.
I am a single-player gamer and I like to play a vast variety of games but horror games are one of my favorite genres. That said, there are only a few horror game franchises I can play: Silent Hill, Resident Evil, The Evil Within, Alone in the dark, Haunted Mansion, Fear Effect, F.E.A.R. and a few more. Should I get an IPS or VA?
Your attention to detail were beyond my expectations, taking as a fact that everyone comparing tech nowadays are just showcasing pretty camera shots, a generic script talking about the specs of both monitors and call it a day, you are just outstanding and thank you so much for your content mate!
I was able to get rid of the smearing problem to a great extent by playing with the settings on my HP x27qc (VA panel). The most powerful setting change was to reduce the black level (brighten black) in the Nvidia control panel 'Adjust Desktop Color Settings' +57 bright, 50 con, 0.98 gamma. I am also using the MPRT feature not Adaptive Sync, and set it to level 5. I then set Response Time to level 2, and the color setting to Gaming, with Contrast pegged at 100 due to MPRT, and Brightness at 25. This gets rid of the smear issue to a great extent, and I tested in various cases and problem circumstances, the settings being a compromise between all tests cases. You do trade really black black, its more like a IPS now, but I use the HP Omen Gamming Hub to save presents for certain programs and for video playback like movies.
I have both VA and IPS, dual monitors. I only notice the black smearing VA issue when I think about it and look for it, it's not a big deal for me. I use the IPS for typing, chatting, basically a secondary monitor, and the VA for gaming. The higher contrast of the VA monitor feels so much better for immersion, both for gaming and for watching movies.
Can't have any immersion when as soon as you move it's like you have Ringwraiths floating around on your monitor. It's really, horrendously bad. Never buying a VA panel again.
@@mikio2570 I think it might depend on what type of game you play, if you're into competitive gaming and need high precision you'll want an IPS but if you're into immersive solo games, ones with lots of cutscenes or just horror games, a VA panel is better. You really need that high contrast or else places that are meant to be pitch black will just look "grey".
Same, very contrasty movies and shows just don't look very good on an IPS screen. That being said, if you have access to an OLED or microled TV, you can watch media on that and get an IPS for gaming and other tasks
Thank you for the great video! :-) I think the reason why a lot of VA panels are curved is because of the intrusive color shift. Because the shift is so obvious the VA panel is best viewed straight on, and by using a curved panel you are emphasizing this. I have used a 27" G7 (1440p 240Hz) monitor for little over a year for work as an architect and 3d artist, and while the colors are stellar on the 10 bit panel with deep blacks and rich and warm colors, the aggressive curve annoys the schnitzel out of me, so now I'm working on a flat IPS panel again, and the VA has been degraded to the home office for gaming.
Thank you very much for this detailed explanation, I didn't understand the difference at first with other creators but this video really helped me choose an IPS pannel over a VA pannel for counter strike and valorant, you earned a subscription.
Awesome content as usual. Last summer I was looking for a monitor to upgrade from my 10 year old TN . Friends were recommending me a model with a VA panel. But when I saw a black smearing on VA it was an instant no no for VA pannel. Fortunately youtube brought to the top your channel where you have a lot of in depth reviews of IPS monitors in a different price ranges. Also thank you for recommended settings and ICC profiles.
Yup, VA is a no-go personally. I literally don't see a use case where I would like it. The text rendering issues on dark background (I'm in software engineering...) are a dealbreaker. So it doesn't fit as a productivity-type monitor. I prefer IPS for media content. I have a BenQ XL2546K for gaming and it's the best IMHO. Like literally, after trying a VA monitor, I went back to my 15-year old 1280x1024 TFT monitor. It's just better. In conclusion, as someone looking into getting a 4th monitor, I think I'll go for something like a 4k IPS with a HDR certification to alleviate the brightness/contrast issues.
Man sometimes I feel lucky, I bought a new monitor like a week ago, LG 29UM69G-B Ultrawide 2560x1080. Not an amazing monitor, but for my use case is above what I need. It is IPS, 5ms response, but has a 1ms response option but it significantly introduces ghosting, so I keep it off, since I don't need it. Old one that I was using was a shitty 1080p, probably over 10yo, it was vga only and it had significant problems that I had to put up for 8 years before I finally bought the new one, ranging from a vertical blue line to refresh rate problems, not to mention colors looked washed, contrast was trash, and it being on analog signal it had quite a bit of horizontal interference of the image. Old monitor is a philips 220e, TFT panel. If the monitor wasn't that bad I'd keep it as a secondary monitor, I did try actually but it gave me enough headaches and decided against it. I'm enjoying the new monitor so far
@@otak_ TFT means thin film transistor, a technology used in all light-emitting diode (LED) displays (TN, IPS, VA OLED). The only exception might be passive matrix displays (some alarm clocks might still use that).
I personally play a lot of Horror Games and Singleplayer Games and on my previous LG who had an IPS Panel it was really distracting in darker areas where it wasn't really able to capture these areas accurately due to the contarst ratio i assume. I got an Odyssey G7 now and i'm really happy with what i got but it's also quite an unfair comparison since my Odyssey was almost double as expensive than my previous LG. Very informative video and glad i found your video so i'm better prepared if i decide to go for another monitor
Some newer IPS panels have really improved on that. I picked up the Gigabyte M32q and the Acer Nitro xv2 in 2021 and both look really good in dark areas, especially in comparison to my couple year old IPS. The G7 is a great monitor though, I'm considering getting one myself.
@@cheeemzy6651Absolutely, I hope they become more and more common in 32in or less format for PC monitors so that the price comes down. May be a couple more years before they are within the budget and affordable for the majority of gamers. I personally just can't justify spending the premium currently, I also would prefer to wait for the anti burn-in technology to mature before I pull the trigger on one.
Hey techless, one thing I would add with gaming on a VA monitor is that there is a chance of freesync/gsync flicker, where the monitor basically flickers when adaptive sync is on and when the refresh rate isn't stable.
After using TN for over a decade I find IPS more than enough for me to enjoy movies. There're some IPS panels mostly from LG with a super low contrast ratio (700:1) compared to others (1000:1). As long as you stay away from those, IPS is generally fine. VA's black smearing doesn't just affect gaming, and you can't unsee it once you notice it.
I just had to return a VA monitor which had great reviews because of the black smearing/ghosting. It was absolutely abysmal. After checking the reviews again, only a small number of people noticed the ghosting, and they all returned it as well. Lesson learnt - Affordable VAs are garbage.
Absolutely amazing video. Whether you watch it to learn it for the first time or watch it while having the prerequisite knowledge, the video compares the 2 panel technologies in a very intuitive way with visual demonstration. I love your channel and I'm looking forward to your future content be it your amazing reviews or informative videos like this one. Haben sie einen guten tag
Very well done! Explained everything in simplistic terms and even had examples of everything! I can't wait to see the channel grow, you have a super bright future ahead of you :).
My AOC C32G2E VA monitor was only $199.99 and I have no complaints at all about it. The base is sturdy. I play Fortnite and watch movies and videos. I like the 1500r curve. Quite immersive and I can see everything on the monitor with less eye movement vs a flat screen. Seems to be a great monitor and certainly the best price!
Thanks a lot for the in depth explanation. I was googling around when looking for a replacement monitor and actually found your video now that I already bought a new one. I see most people suggesting an IPS monitor for gaming, but without a good vizualisation of the effects it was hard to get a grasp of WHY this should be the better option. Eventually I still ended up buying a VA panel again. My screentime is like 80 - 90% work, and just 10 - 20% gaming (non competitive). So I made a decision purely based on pricing point. From what I've seen, all IPS monitors are significantly more expensive than the VA counter parts.
Va Panel also are for people that spend time watching anime/movies on their pc rather than using their TV, so for that reason VA panels are very good even the 1080 at 24inch is good to watch movies. On other hand for gaming is not that bad a slighly less refresh time, but still good.
There is a 34" curved 3440x1440 Quantum Dot OLED 170 hz monitor dropping this spring from Alienware, the AW3423DW, and it will be priced at $1299 USD. The price is a little steep but nothing like the 32" OLED Ultrafine from LG that's $3,000 USD and marketed solely for professionals.
@@pk.002 , And you can expect BURN-IN over time. Linus from LTT experimented with this and after a YEAR he had to run the tool that "resets" the TV. Every time you do that the OLED panel degrades. I doubt the 34" QD+OLED panel from Dell/Alienware will be much different. It's marketed at professionals because they are more likely to justify the cost of something that may only work well for 2 or 3 years (hard to say). I suspect they will acknowledge the potential burn-in issues right on their main page. It also is proportional to both the BRIGHTNESS, the amount of time the monitor is on WHILE content is static etc. They probably need another two years minimum to get burn-in issues for computer monitors significantly improved.
@@photonboy999 The quantum dot filtering on the OLED makes burn in much lower risk. The bigger thing though is the QD-OLED monitor comes with a three year burn-in protection. You should really do your research before you start painting QD-OLED with the same brush as the WOLED panels of old. And FYI, Alienware is literally Dell’s GAMING brand. For them to put out a monitor for pc gamers that burns in so easily would be idiotic.
My understanding was that TN was the best for gaming (speed) but wasn't great for watching movies (contrast) or doing artwork (color accuracy), VA was the best for watching movies/content consumption (contrast), but not great at gaming (speed) or doing artwork (color accuracy), and IPS is the best for art and content creation (color accuracy), but not as good at gaming (speed), or contrast (watching movies). Since it isn't mentioned, I would imagine all three panel types are okay for standard computer things like spreadsheets, typing up Word documents, or having a whole extra monitor dedicated to a terminal/command prompt/chat that's just text. In fact I remember that at one point, VA panels were only considered suitable for TVs and were almost never in computer monitors. It seems like the situation has changed though... now both IPS and VA panels are fast enough that not many people want to put up with a TN panel's poor contrast and color accuracy even for gaming. And somehow or other, IPS is the faster of the two technologies, meaning it has become something gamers like rather than shun.
VA panels have had good enough colour accuracy for most work for a decade (including visual arts). The real advantage of IPS is being more accurate to prints. Ideally you should have both or an OLED if you're not working in print. But it's all a hierarchy, IPS have the best colours, then VA then TN. Motion is best on TN then IPS then VA. Contrast is best on VA then IPS then TN. For standard office work the best is a high dpi high refresh rate VA (or IPS). Though OLED smashes everything else, except in price and burnout.
The more you learn about this kind of tech, the less tolerance you will have for eventual imperfections, and there will always, always be some, like shown in this video. No matter what future technology brings to the table, there will be no perfect panels, because of fast manufacturing process/use of cheap materials and generally poor QC. Awesome video, btw!
Thanks a bunch for the side-by-side visuals. I've plenty of experience with oldskool CRT, TN, and IPS displays but had never seen a VA display before. Your comparison shots add some much needed VA practice to my theory. One note: The "IPS glow" you show in your video isn't IPS glow. It's a normal shift that happens with most monitor types and is most often noticeable when viewing from below. With the IPS displays I've seen the glow referred to how black images look glary at normal viewing angles. Hence the 'glow' in the name, because the first instinct is to search for the light source that induces the 'glare.'
Wow. I have gone through so many videos on youtube regarding this topic. This is the ONLY one that covers EVERYTHING in details. Very helpful and precise content. Now whenever someone asks me IPS vs VA, I know what video to share. Thanks!
it's what i always tell people, there is nothing as the "best" panel type, each have their strengths and weaknesses. hopefully things will change with MicroLED or QDEL.
@@lemoncake8377 no QDEL maybe you didn't hear about it before but it uses Quantum Dot only with no organic martials which means it can perform as good as an OLED without any of it's drawbacks.
Bought the MSI Optix G32CQ4 (VA Panel) this week and definitely noticed smearing in dark areas while gaming. It's less noticable when you play with a controller, but in FPS with a mouse this is just not what you want. Even the 165Hz is kinda useless, because the pixel response time is a real bottleneck.
If you want to play fast FirstPerson shooters with mouse, this monitor will bring no joy. For games with slower camera movement/ gamepad it's okay and movies look also good on this one. @@laughup7055
my dumbass did the same thing. instant regret the moment i noticed how bad it was. now im just stuck with it for now i guess. for it to not be a complete mess in dark areas i have to tone it down to 60hz and mess with the on-board settings so im not even getting the "full experience" of the monitor, and ill tell you what its an experience. not a good one though.
After using VA I will never go back to IPS. Never! I had Xiaomi Gaming Monitor 2K 165Hz (IPS). And recently I bought Acer ED270US3 2K 180Hz (VA). And when I compared them side by side I was shocked by how much backlight glow Xiaomi monitor had! And it's so much more comfortable to watch anything on VA panel. I compared the response time on that 'ufo site' and found out that Xiaomi has 5ms but Acer has 4ms. And there is NO smearing on Acer at all. So I happily sold my Xiaomi monitor and now I'm considering to buy a second Acer monitor. So guys I recommend you to buy a VA panel.
In short for gaming and movies: The smearing of the IPS only can bother you if you play a lot of FPS. VA: Have better contrast, better blacks with slower response time. IPS: Better response time, but you lose contrast. VA: Better for movies and if you play movie like games that doesnt need fast response time, like Heavy Rain, Marvel Spiderman, Detroit Become Human, Two Souls, horror games in general because of the better blacks. IPS: Worse contrast, but much better for FPS games.
I think the question now becomes more relevant when picking ultrawides. Smaller than 34 inches don't need the curve so no point in getting it, but when you get curved IPS and ultrawide, you pay a double premium, and a lot of people might end up getting the lower end IPS, which aren't that much better, depending on use case.
Not to mention VA will usually visibly flicker when it hits the LFC floor... VA panels have a lot of potential but not many manufacturers give a damn unfortunately. Nice video as always
hi bro. What is LFC floor? i am using a VA ultrawide, the huawei mateview 34. when i turn on my industrial fan , my monitor goes black and on again haha.. but other than that, i play csgo on it and still is okay.
@@jamesmadison3108 when using variable refresh(freesync/gsync), monitors will start doubling their refresh rate compared to games' framerate, this is called LFC (low framerate comoensation), this floor is generally around 48fps, VAs tend to visibly flicker when LFCing, this doesnt happen on VA monitors with G-sync modules tho.
Ich hab die ganze Zeit überlegt ob ich ein deutschen akzent höre oder nicht. Aber dieses 'Man sieht sich im nächsten Video' ganz am Ende, hat mich fast vom Stuhl gehauen! xD Aber mal im Ernst, super detailliert und trotzdem sehr verständlich für eine absolute Leihe in dem Thema! Zudem noch alles kurz und knapp erklärt! Danke für das großartige Video!
I prefer VA panels because of the usually higher contrast and brightness. And I hate the "glow" effect you mentioned. I've had very bad luck with curved monitors- the internal foil edge is very delicate and comes loose more easily causing growing vertical black lines.
Thank you for videos like this, they are very helpful. I've watched a lot of youtubers and no one has explained the difference this well. You have one more subscriber :)
I've had a VA panel for over a year now and the smearing has only even been noticeable when actually running a smearing test. I don't have any problems like at 8:15 and 8:30. Plus, VA panels are significantly cheaper than IPS panels, roughly $100 cheaper. I can get a good 32" 1440p 165hz VA monitor for the same price as a good 27" 144hz IPS monitor.
omg thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! i know NOTHING about technology and was tossing up between two monitors where the only difference is the IPA vs VA. You broke it down so well and made it easy to understand especially for someone who feels very overwhelmed when it comes to this jargon. Thank you SO MUCH!!!! (I'm grabbing the IPS btw- thanks so much for your point about content creating because thats exactly what I'm grabbing it for! :) )
*QUANTUM DOT is very promising...* Quantum Dot has already been in use, but it takes a while to shift screen technology. It will help for LCD panels (IPS and VA) as well as OLED to help prevent burn-in. Let me explain why. First off, let's get a simple understanding of what QD does. Basically, each pixel on a screen has three sub-pixels that produce red, green or blue light. OLED subpixels each produce their own light whereas LCD has LED backlights that pass through an LCD filter. Quantum Dot technology involves coating each sub-pixel with material that absorbs the light from the OLED/LED light it's on then emits it again. With OLED this allows you to have the same OLED backlight material (all blue rather than red, green and blue), thus you can decouple research for the backlight material from the QD material. Thus it's far easier to come up with a solution that doesn't suffer from burn-in. You can concentrate on the light-producing material that is most STABLE and use QD material that is optimized for its purpose of absorption/emission only. LCD panels can do something similar. You can coat the LED backlights such that you produce a narrower BANDWIDTH of frequencies for "red", "green" and "blue" ranges. This allows you to redesign the LCD panel around those narrower frequency ranges. Thus, you can more easily control the light that is emitted which leads to DEEPER BLACKS, and better response times (less blur in motion). If I had to GUESS I'd say that QD + IPS will work better than QD + VA, and that QD + OLED will be the ultimate solution but that OLED still will take some time to solve the burn-in issues even with QD. And manufacturing can't shift overnight anyway. I think QD + OLED is basically the final design for panel technology. Or something by another name that's basically identical. On the engineering side the goal is to get a simple PRINTER approach which is a lot more complicated than it sounds.
While my flat VA monitor is such a slow panel, with a very significant colour shift of red getting very bright slightly off-axis, I'm pretty satisfied with it as it was affordable and has been serving me well for ~2 years. Commenting more for the algorithm's engagement than to say anything.
Very detailed video, all I remember about VA was its impressive contrast ratio. I forgot about all the cons. This explains while playing The Last of Us remastered it looks extremely blurry while panning the camera in a dark scene and that ruined the game for me. I thought it was because of my TV size 55"(larger displays ghosting is more noticeable I think). I might have to give up VA but it's a hard choice because we enjoy movies at night with the lights off.
I have an ASUS VA Panel, 32" curved, 2560 x 1440 res. For me, it works great and I love it. Went from a 24" IPS panel to this one, and am very happy I did. But, VA is not for everyone or every situation. With the VA panel, the deep blacks and high contrast are what wowed me, and the color saturation is excellent! The off-axis view angles aren't nearly as good as IPS, but that's not an issue for me. TN is the only panel type I despise, otherwise, whatever works in IPS or VA is cool!
I got a VA panel benq 24" 1080p with 144hz. Never going back to this shit again, atleast not 1080p. I feel like you can see the pixels on text with my monitor, also when im watching something dark my monitor just randomly go superdark and i need to open something bright (for example notepad) in order for it to go back to normal. Also my AC power cord needs to sit in one specific angle in order for my monitor to work. Also the off-axis viewing angle hasn't been too much of a issue for me either after all these years that i could think of, until i actually started thinking about how often i move my monitor and that is probably the cause of the AC power connector issue. But like 3 days ago i ordered a new ips 27" 1440p monitor, can't wait to test that out after all the good reviews. Im using a VA panel 1440p 32" curved at work, it works excellent there but i dont think i would enoy a curved one for FPS gaming.
Well said! The blacks/contrast is why I always go VA for my TVs. I went IGZO-IPS for my monitor though and I really like it! Monoprice DM 27" 1440p 180z IGZO
thank you for this. I had it in my head that IPS response time was slow and VA was fast. I'm glad you cleared that up. Pretty much zero reason not to get an IPS one for myself now
Absolutely amazing! I bought a VA panel monitor for competitive gaming and i was truly satisfied by my purchase. But with this video so detailed and so rich of content, examples and actual knowledge, i was able to forget about other panels and live on with mine. Thank you so much for the effort put into this! Love from BR.
VA isn't really bad for competetive gaming. For these kinds of games it's important to get information early and to get a lot of information but those values don't suffer from black smearing. You can divide the factor for 'speed' of a gaming monitor (or any monitor for that matter) in three parts: 1. Signal latency. The time the actual hardware needs to swap a frame (sometimes referred to as input lag). This has nothing to do with the LC technology. The signal latency describes how fast you get the frame information 2. Refresh rate. The higher the refresh rate the more visual feedback you get which helps to smooth your aim. This also has nothing to do with the LC technology. The refresh rate desicribes how many frames and thus picture information you get 3. The latency of the actual LCs. Here the panel technology is important, TN is the fastest, VA the slowest. The LC latency describes how clear the frame information is Obviously for a competetive shooter it's most important to get picture information as early as possible because than you can react faster than your opponent. So signal latency is the most important for a gaming monitor. Sadly manufactures doesn't need to tell you the value, so you have to check other sources like rtings. And as your aim then decides whether you hit or miss, refresh rate is also very important for such a panel. However whether your target has some coronas due to high overdrive or some smearing around the edge... That's just not important for the question who wins the gun fight.
I'm glad I found your channel, I think thanks to DisplayNinja. I learned A LOT of new terms and what they really mean in pratice with this video, but most important, I learned why I can't find a damn 24" curved FHD IPS monitor. It's a panel's thing. While I'm still confused AF, now I know what I'm looking for, for gaming, is an IPS one. So really thanks.
The curve helps prevent the color and brightness shifting in the corners. The ips seems more clinically precise while the VA has a more relaxed image that isn't strobing you in the face making it easier on the eyes for extended viewing. The slower refresh is an advantage there while a disadvantage as mentioned. It depends on what you are looking for.
*It should also be added that IPS displays have a setting called GAMING that cranks the contrast. BenQ, Samsung, LG, Asus, MSi, etc. They all have it. It kicks the blacks all the way down and the bright, vibrant colors get very deep. It is so gorgeous. I play in a dark room. My IPS has no glow when gaming on that setting.*
Your video is excellent and so spot-on! Thanks! What I find curious is, that comparing VA and IPS side by side, I always find the VA to look "washed out" and a bit unsharp. It is even apparent in your video, where you just filmed the monitors. Do you know why the VA looks so washed out and less sharp? Is it the combination smearing / less color depth?
I have found your videos on monitors the absolute best and most telling. Thank you! It really has helped me make a better choice for me and what I will be using it for!!!
Ended up getting a BenQ EX2510 after seeing your stellar impressions of the model and haven't looked back since! That said, always a pleasure to get your thoughts on assorted technologies. Any plans on covering OLED displays and seeing how they fare against VA and IPS, or perhaps more niche, CRTs? It could well be confirmation bias but I much prefer the look of objects in motion on the 120Hz AMOLED display on my mobile phone compared to the 144Hz IPS on the BenQ, and some reports from the like of HDTVTest show that OLEDs generally have amazingly fast response time performance relative to other technologies, and it'd be grand to see you cover that. thanks again for the informative content!
I have been researching old monitor for upgrade recently. Unfortunately there are not much good oled monitors out there. All good ones are 4k and huge in size and heavily expensive. The Alienware is a perfect monitor if you can afford it (4k ultra wide). Also other good option is lg c2. Waiting for a 1440p mid-sized old to launch (literally there are 0 options as of today.
OLEDs win. I can compare my laptop (Asus Vivobook 15 Pro OLED) in my local electronics store and even this 800€ laptop with a calibrated 1080p OLED DESTROYS everything there, 2000€+ gaming laptops aswell as even the iMacs and Macbooks they have. Much more vibrant colours, perfect viewing angles, deep blacks, there's nothing like it
@@xPandamon Yeah, much as I love how the IPS on my main PC looks I can't help but agree that the OLED on my Samsung phone (an S20FE) looks a lot better with regard to motion and shadows. Of course there're black crush issues at lower brightness settings, but It's grand overall. The only thing that really bites is how OLED panels have a shorter life expectancy by far (and oversaturation problems when not well-calibrated).
@@Lyander25 The screen on my laptop is well calibrated, yet it's pretty intensive when it comes to colours. Seems too high at first, but once you play some games on it or watch some movies you notice that's intended. Compared to a phone screen or my old PS Vita a bigger OLED is another experience entirely, even though I got the laptop without a dedicated GPU, the screen alone makes it worth it for light gaming and work of course. Even has a Pantone certification ^^
Watch: 'Stop! Before you buy an OLED monitor' by TFTCentral. Also a phone isn't the same as a large monitor because it isn't the Windows OS and the sub-pixels are far smaller on a phone as well, you will need to watch the video to understand how it would make a difference.
Danke für das Outro - hab mir doch gedacht, dass du Deutsch sprichst :D Abgesehen davon: Mega Video und ich hab super viel gelernt! Vor allem das mit der Response Time war mega einleuchtend und wusste ich so vorher noch nicht. Danke dafür
The first time I bought an IPS monitor, I didn't really know what IPS meant so you can imagine how bummed out I was when I started playing games -- and watching movies, especially dark-themed ones. The images just looked so much better on my older "VA" monitor in my opinion. and I didn't really have any problems getting to GlobalElite or ApexPredator ranks with either panel type. So, maybe what I'm trying to say is... I just like the deeper blacks on the VA? 😅
VA have additional problem at certain price point, such as ultra low end. Usually if we compare those low cost 1080P/1440P ips vs VA, VA panel will display more aggressive then normal smearing and poor response time, this is due to VA panel need more fine tuning from OEM to reach an acceptable level of pixel overdrive, the consumer is playing a dangerous game of dice buying budget VA, you will never know where did they cut cost.
From my personal experience I prefer VA panels all the way over ips especially when it comes to gaming. I felt that my ips monitor had bad eye comfort in that it was very tiring for my eyes and in videogames movement feels much more fluid on my va monitor. Then there is also the greater contrast ratio and the picture looking way more detailed and HighRes compared to ips. But I must say its not worth buying a curved model. Because curved in general is stupid. I currently look for a flat va panel but there are only a handful monitors to choose from.
Absolutely terrific video! Especially if you're like me and didn't even know these two types of monitors existed before today. I'm looking at monitors online (as I type this) and the description had VA which is what prompted the search that brought me to this video. Thank you very much for making it! The explanations were easy to understand and I love the amount of detail you've included. Just right. :)
Excellent comparison video. That white text on black background test made it conclusive for me to avoid VA panel as I try to make all my software run in dark mode. Although, I would have loved to see a close-up of the white text on black background for the VA panel (just like you showed for the IPS panel).
I use Benq 24" flat VA monitor, mainly for development work and I really like the contrast in code editor like VS Code. Maybe, my next will be VA only because of this contrast.
Very well explained, as I am upgrading my current rig, was searching difference between the VA and the IPS and came across your video. Highly captivating, kept me engaged and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I highly appreciate it. In the end I came to the conclusion that IPS is a better choice overall.
A few years ago I was upgrading my monitors, first one and then later got a second one. Both times I did a lot of research to figure out what I wanted and what my best options were. For the first monitor, everything I saw was like this video; biased towards IPS and away from VA, recommending it (same for G-Sync, which I now think is worthless garbage). Since at the time I was a competitive gamer I went for an IPS 165hz 1440p 27" screen from AOC (about 3-4 years ago now). Now, for competitive games it was actually pretty good, and the image quality in bright scenes was quite decent. But the contrast was TRASH. Like, even worse than my old 1080p TN panel, by far. Playing Skyrim I could see jack-all in a cave, because no matter how you set the brightness or whatever the inherent IPS glow washes everything out. Also, viewing angles are also garbage, even the slightest angle would make the screen look white/washed out. It also came with a dead pixel straight out of the box, which was the cherry on top. Then probably a year later I decided I wanted to try out 4K, and get a second monitor. So I found this large Philips 4K monitor (43") that was pretty much a TV converted into a PC monitor as far as I can tell. VA panel, only 60 hz, HDR 1000 or something. Now, this monitor I really love. Firstly it is blindingly bright if you turn it up, enough that you can use it in a sunlit room and it overpowers glare on the screen. In normal use I have it at 20-30% brightness and that is still bright. Image quality wise, the contrast is fantastic, dark scenes look exactly as they should. Movies in 4K look amazing. For games, I almost always wind up still using this monitor even though it's only 60 HZ, because frankly while high hz monitors feel a lot smoother and nicer, if I really had to pick in most cases I would go for the contrast ratio over the refresh rate, and that's ignoring that you could get a high refresh rate VA monitor anyway. For me at least a big part of that is the fact that I stopped playing competitive style games, which is the only place you really need it. As is, my IPS monitor is now on the side turned at 90" angle and used for sublime text coding mostly, lol. As for VA, I have never noticed any of the problems this video mentions. I don't know if I just got a bad IPS monitor and a good VA one (mine is flat, btw), but I am pretty heavily in favor of VA over IPS after my own experiences.
It's should be impossible that an IPS would have garbage viewing angles! The BEST part about IPS is that is has the BEST viewing angles out of all main panel technologies!! And VA is the one which is notorious for having garbage viewing angles! It's a night and day difference when viewed from the side, VA becomes washed out (like in the video) and IPS does not. I personally had to return 2 TV's because both had VA panels, and while the picture quality was amazing from the front, the second I changed my position the picture became washed out! Maybe ur IPS was actually TN... 🤷♂
@@MaximusAdonicus Well, OLED screens have the best viewing angles afaik, not IPS. As for mine, I just tested it again now just to double check. At an angle my IPS screen has this white-ish washed out look (fairly sharp angle, to be fair) - my VA screen has no such thing, it almost never washes out no matter what angle I look at it, just gets dimmer at extreme angles. And I'm positive it is an IPS monitor, it has the "IPS glow" in parts of the screen which is a major part of what I hate about it, this ugly smearing that discolors things. Never seen that in any other style of monitor. Like I said maybe I just got a dud IPS screen, I almost returned it when I got it due to the dead pixel but they say you need at least 5 in order to do that (and to be fair you can't notice it unless you're really looking up close).
@@larion2336 Yeah, I didn't count in oled's as part of the og 3, which were also in the video. I don't really count oled's in any occasion because the burn-in factor... I have heard that some high-end VA's have better viewing angles, but I haven't seen/tested one... but those are outta my budget, so it wouldn't matter anyway. Though I'd be curious if those can match the v.angles of the mighty IPS 🤔 But like I said, by default IPS has great v.angles and VA does not, thus u must have had the worst IPS ever created and one of the best VA's in the universe! Can u tell the model of ur IPS monitor, so I can google it? #ForScience
am in the market looking for monitors and the youtube algorithm got me here. Not complaining. I now know what I need to get. Thanks for making it simple.
Get a crt monitor smooth fps no motion blur great for your wallet no input lag no bad viewing angles high fps high resolution great contrast great colors works on everything "high energy consumption" annoying calibration (sometimes) heavy spacey usually 4:3 a bit of tinkering with windows so that it won't default to 60fps making the image quite flickery but custom resolution utility will do the job so it defaults to 70 which looks and feels like 140hz on a flat screen
@@essarajab9901 more of a pc monitor Some cctv monitors like sony pvm are good but they are more similar to crt TVs as they have tv inputs and have low refreshrates, interlacing and extremely low resolutions to a crt pc monitor with just 480i vs. The typical range of 796p to 1200p "Crt TVs" Only for nostalgia, retro games but overall quite meh "Crt PC monitors" Great for any budget, awesome for graphics or gameplay
Oh! You have a very symphatic german touch in your english! Normally, i really struggle with this german accent, but in your case, it just adds a clearness to the words, which i find somehow very pleasant 😀 Thx for this very informative video, im currently looking for my first gamjng/editing Monitor and the information given in this video was actually very helpful! ❤
That description of the r rating made so much sense it blew my mind. I never considered a 1500 mm radius. I thought it was radians and threw my hands up saying a bigger number means more degrees. Still don't know how you would get to such a big number though seeing 180°/π is 1 radian.
New owner of a Samsung G7 32" here. Never had a curved monitor before and I was pretty terrified of the 1000R curve when I bought it, but I decided to be bold and take a chance. 30 seconds into my first game and was in love with this monitor. The color shift and smearing are a little like air; people tell me it's there and I believe them ...but I don't see it at all. The G7 is my first VA panel and so far I'm pretty damned impressed.
Hey mate I was just wondering, what is the light bleed like in the corners of your G7 and what is the colour like? I had an 28inch 4k asus TUF monitor with HDR but the IPS glow was absolutely shit for dark areas, so it was impossible to enjoy a horror game but the overall colour and everything about it was really good, but because of the glow i have refunded it and and am i looking at getting the samsung G7 32'' at 1440, would you say you are still happy with it 2 weeks on from your comment?
@@SlanderMan. I still absolutely love this monitor; so much so that I just bought it a new RTX 4080 ...and it only got better. The color is really good right out of the box. I didn't feel it was necessary to touch a thing. The only thing I had to tweak was the contrast and sharpness a bit to get them where I liked them. I can't really comment on how it performs on dark games because I don't play any, but as for light bleed I don't notice any. If I have one complaint that would be with the sand. This is one heavy assed monitor and I suppose some screen shake is to be expected. On a sturdy desk during normal usage it never presents a problem ...but still.
@@loyalopposition-us Hmm yeah that's good then iv heard a lot about it being good for gaming, I'm gonna downgrade from 4k to 2k anyway because my pc cant handle 4k high frames so this monitor seems perfect, the stand for my 4k monitor was pretty hefty as well its not lightweight I tell ya now, but thanks for taking your time to comment back bro its good to get opinion from someone who has the actual monitor.
@@SlanderMan. Going from 4k to 2k on a 32" monitor you're going to see some pixels depending on how far away from your monitor you sit. I sit 30 USA inches away and mostly I never notice it, but sometimes on some games it's pretty evident. That's the trade off you face when running at 2k though. Still, it's miles ahead of 1080p and doesn't crush your FPS.
@@loyalopposition-us Yeah Im sitting roughly about the same tbh so maybe a 32 isnt the best choice? i wanted the 28 but they are sold out, could always wait a bit longer and try bag a 28incher
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Man put so much effort into this video. He went through everything with very detailed information which we can all appreciate. I have watched so many videos about VA vs IPS and this is only one that fully covered the subject and explained it perfectly
Thanks man!
I couldn't agree more, especially the response time part, absolutely awesome man.
so which is best?
@@techlessYT Curve screen has more distortions.
@@techlessYT Also, is the LG Ultragear 32 1440p a VA panel or IPS? Please reply.
Dude. This is a *flawless* video. Comprehensive, well explained, with expert sound design and cinematography. Great job, Techless!!
Great explanation of the difference between VA and ISP. You're examples truly breaks down the pros and cons of each type.
I bought myself a va panel monitor last year. I’ve also had extreme smearing problems. But I found out that you can eliminate the problem (at least at my monitor) by changing some menu settings and compare them by using the same floating alien website. It took me a while to figure out the best options, but it was worth it. The smearing is almost completely gone.
I have a Philips 4k 43" VA screen that is easily mistaken for a TV, and never had any kind of smearing or anything. It's just a super bright, super colorful screen that does everything I want. If it had high hz (it's only 60) it would make my IPS panel next to it look like a piece of dogcrap (IPS glow + awful contrast = why does this exist).
Can you share them please
How de fak?
What monitor do you have?
@@larion2336 Did that involve turning down onboard screen response time settings? Makes the ghosting terrible then.. And then whats the use of a high refresh rate monitor? I bought a premium VA thanks to all the great reviews on it, Worst decision I ever made. Smearing was unbearable to say the least.
VA monitor curred my eye fatigue I had for like 5 yrs from various IPS monitors. I finally figured out what caused my eyes to be always be red and tired. OLED screens do not cause this for me, and VA screens also much easier on my eyes.
Maybe this helps someone who is struggling like I was, until I finally came across a post on forum where someone said the same thing about VA panel, I tried it, and immediately noticed the difference, over time my eye fatigue almost completely went away.
Did you have lazy eye where 1 eye doesn't see as well and the other kept taking over? Like split vision? How did you know va can help with eyes? Source?
@@st4r444 I've read of someone saying the same, that IPS panels were more tiring to their eyes and VA was better for eye fatigue. I'm not sure but i would think VA (Vertical Alignment) is easier to distingish the pixels than a twisted pixel like IPS panels have, just my theory.
I've watched a few videos on this. Showing the different effects and artifacts on monitors is not easy at all to do, since it's one thing to be there and watch them with your own eyes, and another thing to show that effect on camera. The way that you managed to do it is just perfect!! Thank you for this. I'll be going for the IPS one :).
The 27" Samsung G7 is the only VA panel with no smearing that I have used. However, the super aggressive curve and less than stellar G-Sync implementation meant that I exchanged it for a 27" Alienware AW2721D IPS flat panel, and I'm much happier. It supports G-Sync Ultimate too, which is important to me.
@@Dioslux nice, gg, but you missing out on the 5 year warranty doe
Interesting take, I went Gigabytee G34-A monitor ( It does 5500:1 contrast ratio after I calibrated it at 300 nits) Yeah it does have black smearing but it's not as bad as you'd think. And something I can live with until I upgrade to OLED. I also have used Nano-IPS technology my secondary monitor is in fact my old one which is a Dell S2721DFGA. The Alienware you have is a faster panel for sure. But I think the low contrast ratio of any IPS kills immersion factor when you are playing games. But really OLED is the only way to go unless there's some VA technology like in the G5 but without all the problems you experienced. I have not seen one yet..
G7 has light bleed pretty noticable.
The curve is barely noticeable and not aggressive at all, idk how people are so crazy
samsung g7 is worst monitor ever
I got a VA panel as an upgrade from my IPS one... I mainly game so it wasn't long before I realised that VA was a BIG mistake. It looks great in some scenarios but the ghosting is horrific... avoid if you only game imo
i got an 27 curved r1800 ips is perfect
idk I haven't noticed much ghosting on mine
The general concensus is that in order to get a decent VA panel you have to basically look at the higher end like Samsung Odyssey. The cheaper VA panels tend to not be very good with ghosting, etc. Whereas, cheaper IPS panels don't have quite as much of an issue like this.
Same here
@@yahootube90 as someone who recently bought and used the 32in Samsung Odyssey G5, I can confirm that the ghosting is horrific. I was extremely unhappy with it, even when comparing to other VA monitors. I wouldn’t recommend if for gaming.
One of the main reason for backlight bleeding / glow is that the edge backlight systems used in newer monitors are not so uniform. Since monitors are paper thin nowadays, this problem is more worse. Full array led backlit can remove this problem somewhat.
OLED: good for everything except your wallet
OLED is probably the worst because of the Burn in
After having an oled phone for a few years, any display without it just seems so awful to me now
Yep every one do be rocking those OLED displays on smartphones😂@@connivingkhajiit
@@kevontrotman9008 here before those who change monitors every 2 years say its a non issue, lol
And longevity and durability
This is a good comparison and informative video.
I am a "VA guy" myself...90% of the time, my room is relatively dark and I sit right in front of the monitor. As such, I'm not bothered by VA's gamma shift and I can avoid IPS glow that would be pretty noticeable in dark. Also, only around 1/3 of my time with the monitor is gaming and I don't play fast games, so I don't have to chase after very high pixel response, while I can certainly appreciate much better contrast of VA panels...in short, VA suits my use case pretty well.
That doesn't mean I dislike IPS, though, I might get one if it's good...
The same lie here show you the glow of VA QLED panel which is normal even clouding in dark room m.ua-cam.com/video/UaIwB6tkFE0/v-deo.html already ADS-IPS has the same dark of VA panels
So if i use VA in coding i will notice the smearing?
@@dontask9383 Hm...it very much depends on the background and how much you scroll and how sensitive to smear you are. But, I'll go with yes, you will probably notice. If you're gonna code a lot IPS is a safer choice. Preferably a 32" 4K monitor but that's a personal choice...
absolutely right, viewing angles are not a concern in case of computer monitors because 99% of time a person is sitting in front of monitor. for a person who watch movies a lot VA high contrast ratio certainly helps.
I am a single-player gamer and I like to play a vast variety of games but horror games are one of my favorite genres. That said, there are only a few horror game franchises I can play: Silent Hill, Resident Evil, The Evil Within, Alone in the dark, Haunted Mansion, Fear Effect, F.E.A.R. and a few more. Should I get an IPS or VA?
Your attention to detail were beyond my expectations, taking as a fact that everyone comparing tech nowadays are just showcasing pretty camera shots, a generic script talking about the specs of both monitors and call it a day, you are just outstanding and thank you so much for your content mate!
I was able to get rid of the smearing problem to a great extent by playing with the settings on my HP x27qc (VA panel). The most powerful setting change was to reduce the black level (brighten black) in the Nvidia control panel 'Adjust Desktop Color Settings' +57 bright, 50 con, 0.98 gamma. I am also using the MPRT feature not Adaptive Sync, and set it to level 5. I then set Response Time to level 2, and the color setting to Gaming, with Contrast pegged at 100 due to MPRT, and Brightness at 25.
This gets rid of the smear issue to a great extent, and I tested in various cases and problem circumstances, the settings being a compromise between all tests cases. You do trade really black black, its more like a IPS now, but I use the HP Omen Gamming Hub to save presents for certain programs and for video playback like movies.
sound like ips with extra steps
I have both VA and IPS, dual monitors. I only notice the black smearing VA issue when I think about it and look for it, it's not a big deal for me. I use the IPS for typing, chatting, basically a secondary monitor, and the VA for gaming. The higher contrast of the VA monitor feels so much better for immersion, both for gaming and for watching movies.
Can't have any immersion when as soon as you move it's like you have Ringwraiths floating around on your monitor. It's really, horrendously bad. Never buying a VA panel again.
@@colbyboucher6391 I'm guessing there must be a lot of difference between low quality and high quality VA panels also.
I haven't ever used an IPS panel before but I have a va panel right now, and even if I try to see that smearing or whatever I just can't see it
i thought IPS was better for gaming, im trying to get a new monitor and dont know what panel to get
@@mikio2570 I think it might depend on what type of game you play, if you're into competitive gaming and need high precision you'll want an IPS but if you're into immersive solo games, ones with lots of cutscenes or just horror games, a VA panel is better. You really need that high contrast or else places that are meant to be pitch black will just look "grey".
Personally, I perfer VA panels because I am always using my PC in the dark, so the higher contrast ratio helps.
Absolutely. Super noticeable with movies that use black bars, too.
@@justsaying993 Lots of black bars on 21:9 so VA is great for that especially at night in the dark. :)
Get a life
Same, very contrasty movies and shows just don't look very good on an IPS screen. That being said, if you have access to an OLED or microled TV, you can watch media on that and get an IPS for gaming and other tasks
@@CoolAsianGuy He'll never be as cool as you anyway so what's the point?
Thank you for the great video! :-) I think the reason why a lot of VA panels are curved is because of the intrusive color shift. Because the shift is so obvious the VA panel is best viewed straight on, and by using a curved panel you are emphasizing this. I have used a 27" G7 (1440p 240Hz) monitor for little over a year for work as an architect and 3d artist, and while the colors are stellar on the 10 bit panel with deep blacks and rich and warm colors, the aggressive curve annoys the schnitzel out of me, so now I'm working on a flat IPS panel again, and the VA has been degraded to the home office for gaming.
Thank you very much for this detailed explanation, I didn't understand the difference at first with other creators but this video really helped me choose an IPS pannel over a VA pannel for counter strike and valorant, you earned a subscription.
Absolutely fantastic primer on IPS vs VA panels. Thank YOU! Keep up the great work!!!
I can't believe that such an informative video only has close to 3k views. Thank you so much for still dishing out amazing content for us
2 years later and it’s at 1.6 million
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Informative, calm, and straight to the point. Great job! I watched the entire thing without skipping forward, since nothing was useless.
literally the only guide useful on IPS vs VA. This man is a beast! He is so much underrated. 90K views only?? damn
I increased it with additional 2 number 😅
Awesome content as usual.
Last summer I was looking for a monitor to upgrade from my 10 year old TN . Friends were recommending me a model with a VA panel. But when I saw a black smearing on VA it was an instant no no for VA pannel.
Fortunately youtube brought to the top your channel where you have a lot of in depth reviews of IPS monitors in a different price ranges.
Also thank you for recommended settings and ICC profiles.
Yup, VA is a no-go personally. I literally don't see a use case where I would like it. The text rendering issues on dark background (I'm in software engineering...) are a dealbreaker. So it doesn't fit as a productivity-type monitor. I prefer IPS for media content. I have a BenQ XL2546K for gaming and it's the best IMHO. Like literally, after trying a VA monitor, I went back to my 15-year old 1280x1024 TFT monitor. It's just better.
In conclusion, as someone looking into getting a 4th monitor, I think I'll go for something like a 4k IPS with a HDR certification to alleviate the brightness/contrast issues.
Man sometimes I feel lucky, I bought a new monitor like a week ago, LG 29UM69G-B Ultrawide 2560x1080. Not an amazing monitor, but for my use case is above what I need. It is IPS, 5ms response, but has a 1ms response option but it significantly introduces ghosting, so I keep it off, since I don't need it. Old one that I was using was a shitty 1080p, probably over 10yo, it was vga only and it had significant problems that I had to put up for 8 years before I finally bought the new one, ranging from a vertical blue line to refresh rate problems, not to mention colors looked washed, contrast was trash, and it being on analog signal it had quite a bit of horizontal interference of the image. Old monitor is a philips 220e, TFT panel.
If the monitor wasn't that bad I'd keep it as a secondary monitor, I did try actually but it gave me enough headaches and decided against it. I'm enjoying the new monitor so far
@@otak_ TFT means thin film transistor, a technology used in all light-emitting diode (LED) displays (TN, IPS, VA OLED). The only exception might be passive matrix displays (some alarm clocks might still use that).
this might be the best and easiest explanaton video i have ever seen on monitors. THANK YOU. Much appreciated.
I personally play a lot of Horror Games and Singleplayer Games and on my previous LG who had an IPS Panel it was really distracting in darker areas where it wasn't really able to capture these areas accurately due to the contarst ratio i assume. I got an Odyssey G7 now and i'm really happy with what i got but it's also quite an unfair comparison since my Odyssey was almost double as expensive than my previous LG. Very informative video and glad i found your video so i'm better prepared if i decide to go for another monitor
Some newer IPS panels have really improved on that. I picked up the Gigabyte M32q and the Acer Nitro xv2 in 2021 and both look really good in dark areas, especially in comparison to my couple year old IPS. The G7 is a great monitor though, I'm considering getting one myself.
If you like single player horror games getting an OLED panel would be perfect theres legit no return to ips or VA panel
@@cheeemzy6651Absolutely, I hope they become more and more common in 32in or less format for PC monitors so that the price comes down. May be a couple more years before they are within the budget and affordable for the majority of gamers. I personally just can't justify spending the premium currently, I also would prefer to wait for the anti burn-in technology to mature before I pull the trigger on one.
@Roenie Gaming what's your recommended monitor btw?
@Roenie Gaming what do you mean by the "Flicker"
IPS for gaming, got it! Thanks for such an informative video!
Hey techless, one thing I would add with gaming on a VA monitor is that there is a chance of freesync/gsync flicker, where the monitor basically flickers when adaptive sync is on and when the refresh rate isn't stable.
VA displays dont have flicker with G-SYNC, due to the G-SYNC Module acting as a voltage regulator.
After using TN for over a decade I find IPS more than enough for me to enjoy movies. There're some IPS panels mostly from LG with a super low contrast ratio (700:1) compared to others (1000:1). As long as you stay away from those, IPS is generally fine. VA's black smearing doesn't just affect gaming, and you can't unsee it once you notice it.
I just had to return a VA monitor which had great reviews because of the black smearing/ghosting. It was absolutely abysmal. After checking the reviews again, only a small number of people noticed the ghosting, and they all returned it as well. Lesson learnt - Affordable VAs are garbage.
This is by far one of the best teaching videos on PC tech that I have seen in many years. Super helpful!!!
Absolutely amazing video. Whether you watch it to learn it for the first time or watch it while having the prerequisite knowledge, the video compares the 2 panel technologies in a very intuitive way with visual demonstration. I love your channel and I'm looking forward to your future content be it your amazing reviews or informative videos like this one. Haben sie einen guten tag
Very well done! Explained everything in simplistic terms and even had examples of everything! I can't wait to see the channel grow, you have a super bright future ahead of you :).
My AOC C32G2E VA monitor was only $199.99 and I have no complaints at all about it. The base is sturdy. I play Fortnite and watch movies and videos. I like the 1500r curve. Quite immersive and I can see everything on the monitor with less eye movement vs a flat screen. Seems to be a great monitor and certainly the best price!
Send link to moniter where you bought it please
Thanks a lot for the in depth explanation. I was googling around when looking for a replacement monitor and actually found your video now that I already bought a new one. I see most people suggesting an IPS monitor for gaming, but without a good vizualisation of the effects it was hard to get a grasp of WHY this should be the better option.
Eventually I still ended up buying a VA panel again. My screentime is like 80 - 90% work, and just 10 - 20% gaming (non competitive). So I made a decision purely based on pricing point. From what I've seen, all IPS monitors are significantly more expensive than the VA counter parts.
Va Panel also are for people that spend time watching anime/movies on their pc rather than using their TV, so for that reason VA panels are very good even the 1080 at 24inch is good to watch movies.
On other hand for gaming is not that bad a slighly less refresh time, but still good.
Great analysis! Concise, good delivery and no fluff! Keep it up dude!
Finally a review covers all the main points. Simple and clear to understand and no unnecessary staff.
If a OLED monitor with either a 1080/1440p resolution existed i would buy it immediately.
There is a 34" curved 3440x1440 Quantum Dot OLED 170 hz monitor dropping this spring from Alienware, the AW3423DW, and it will be priced at $1299 USD. The price is a little steep but nothing like the 32" OLED Ultrafine from LG that's $3,000 USD and marketed solely for professionals.
@@pk.002 ,
And you can expect BURN-IN over time. Linus from LTT experimented with this and after a YEAR he had to run the tool that "resets" the TV. Every time you do that the OLED panel degrades. I doubt the 34" QD+OLED panel from Dell/Alienware will be much different. It's marketed at professionals because they are more likely to justify the cost of something that may only work well for 2 or 3 years (hard to say).
I suspect they will acknowledge the potential burn-in issues right on their main page. It also is proportional to both the BRIGHTNESS, the amount of time the monitor is on WHILE content is static etc.
They probably need another two years minimum to get burn-in issues for computer monitors significantly improved.
They make them for around 1k
@@photonboy999 The quantum dot filtering on the OLED makes burn in much lower risk.
The bigger thing though is the QD-OLED monitor comes with a three year burn-in protection.
You should really do your research before you start painting QD-OLED with the same brush as the WOLED panels of old.
And FYI, Alienware is literally Dell’s GAMING brand. For them to put out a monitor for pc gamers that burns in so easily would be idiotic.
@@photonboy999
U get a 3 year warranty against burn in
My understanding was that TN was the best for gaming (speed) but wasn't great for watching movies (contrast) or doing artwork (color accuracy), VA was the best for watching movies/content consumption (contrast), but not great at gaming (speed) or doing artwork (color accuracy), and IPS is the best for art and content creation (color accuracy), but not as good at gaming (speed), or contrast (watching movies). Since it isn't mentioned, I would imagine all three panel types are okay for standard computer things like spreadsheets, typing up Word documents, or having a whole extra monitor dedicated to a terminal/command prompt/chat that's just text. In fact I remember that at one point, VA panels were only considered suitable for TVs and were almost never in computer monitors. It seems like the situation has changed though... now both IPS and VA panels are fast enough that not many people want to put up with a TN panel's poor contrast and color accuracy even for gaming. And somehow or other, IPS is the faster of the two technologies, meaning it has become something gamers like rather than shun.
VA panels have had good enough colour accuracy for most work for a decade (including visual arts). The real advantage of IPS is being more accurate to prints. Ideally you should have both or an OLED if you're not working in print.
But it's all a hierarchy, IPS have the best colours, then VA then TN. Motion is best on TN then IPS then VA. Contrast is best on VA then IPS then TN. For standard office work the best is a high dpi high refresh rate VA (or IPS).
Though OLED smashes everything else, except in price and burnout.
The more you learn about this kind of tech, the less tolerance you will have for eventual imperfections, and there will always, always be some, like shown in this video. No matter what future technology brings to the table, there will be no perfect panels, because of fast manufacturing process/use of cheap materials and generally poor QC. Awesome video, btw!
Thanks a bunch for the side-by-side visuals. I've plenty of experience with oldskool CRT, TN, and IPS displays but had never seen a VA display before. Your comparison shots add some much needed VA practice to my theory.
One note: The "IPS glow" you show in your video isn't IPS glow. It's a normal shift that happens with most monitor types and is most often noticeable when viewing from below. With the IPS displays I've seen the glow referred to how black images look glary at normal viewing angles. Hence the 'glow' in the name, because the first instinct is to search for the light source that induces the 'glare.'
Wow. I have gone through so many videos on youtube regarding this topic. This is the ONLY one that covers EVERYTHING in details. Very helpful and precise content. Now whenever someone asks me IPS vs VA, I know what video to share. Thanks!
Thank you very much even 2 years after, this was very helpful to make a decision.
it's what i always tell people, there is nothing as the "best" panel type, each have their strengths and weaknesses. hopefully things will change with MicroLED or QDEL.
i think u mean QLED right? lol
Micro is a few years away, for true micro. Mini is available but the smallest micro is like 120”
OLED is the best if you are smart enough you wont face burn in issues
@@utkarsh1874 better to just wait for QD-OLED¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@lemoncake8377 no QDEL maybe you didn't hear about it before but it uses Quantum Dot only with no organic martials which means it can perform as good as an OLED without any of it's drawbacks.
Bought the MSI Optix G32CQ4 (VA Panel) this week and definitely noticed smearing in dark areas while gaming. It's less noticable when you play with a controller, but in FPS with a mouse this is just not what you want. Even the 165Hz is kinda useless, because the pixel response time is a real bottleneck.
I am thinking of buying the same monitor. My primary uses for this monitor will be Gaming and Movies. What should I do? Should I go with it?
If you want to play fast FirstPerson shooters with mouse, this monitor will bring no joy. For games with slower camera movement/ gamepad it's okay and movies look also good on this one. @@laughup7055
my dumbass did the same thing. instant regret the moment i noticed how bad it was. now im just stuck with it for now i guess. for it to not be a complete mess in dark areas i have to tone it down to 60hz and mess with the on-board settings so im not even getting the "full experience" of the monitor, and ill tell you what its an experience. not a good one though.
Thank you for such a structured, condensed and unbiased explanation. Very good content!
After using VA I will never go back to IPS. Never! I had Xiaomi Gaming Monitor 2K 165Hz (IPS). And recently I bought Acer ED270US3 2K 180Hz (VA). And when I compared them side by side I was shocked by how much backlight glow Xiaomi monitor had! And it's so much more comfortable to watch anything on VA panel. I compared the response time on that 'ufo site' and found out that Xiaomi has 5ms but Acer has 4ms. And there is NO smearing on Acer at all. So I happily sold my Xiaomi monitor and now I'm considering to buy a second Acer monitor. So guys I recommend you to buy a VA panel.
In short for gaming and movies: The smearing of the IPS only can bother you if you play a lot of FPS.
VA: Have better contrast, better blacks with slower response time.
IPS: Better response time, but you lose contrast.
VA: Better for movies and if you play movie like games that doesnt need fast response time, like Heavy Rain, Marvel Spiderman, Detroit Become Human, Two Souls, horror games in general because of the better blacks.
IPS: Worse contrast, but much better for FPS games.
A very clear explanation! Thank you so much for putting this much effort in a video. Keep up the good work!
I think the question now becomes more relevant when picking ultrawides. Smaller than 34 inches don't need the curve so no point in getting it, but when you get curved IPS and ultrawide, you pay a double premium, and a lot of people might end up getting the lower end IPS, which aren't that much better, depending on use case.
This video was super informative and well made. It had all of the key up- and downsides and perfect length. Thanks!
Not to mention VA will usually visibly flicker when it hits the LFC floor... VA panels have a lot of potential but not many manufacturers give a damn unfortunately. Nice video as always
hi bro. What is LFC floor? i am using a VA ultrawide, the huawei mateview 34. when i turn on my industrial fan , my monitor goes black and on again haha.. but other than that, i play csgo on it and still is okay.
@@jamesmadison3108 when using variable refresh(freesync/gsync), monitors will start doubling their refresh rate compared to games' framerate, this is called LFC (low framerate comoensation), this floor is generally around 48fps, VAs tend to visibly flicker when LFCing, this doesnt happen on VA monitors with G-sync modules tho.
@@iamfrog6747 oh nv happen for me. Because I use the monitor for work and csgo only. Csgo typically have very high fps
Ich hab die ganze Zeit überlegt ob ich ein deutschen akzent höre oder nicht. Aber dieses 'Man sieht sich im nächsten Video' ganz am Ende, hat mich fast vom Stuhl gehauen! xD
Aber mal im Ernst, super detailliert und trotzdem sehr verständlich für eine absolute Leihe in dem Thema! Zudem noch alles kurz und knapp erklärt! Danke für das großartige Video!
I prefer VA panels because of the usually higher contrast and brightness. And I hate the "glow" effect you mentioned. I've had very bad luck with curved monitors- the internal foil edge is very delicate and comes loose more easily causing growing vertical black lines.
Thank you for videos like this, they are very helpful. I've watched a lot of youtubers and no one has explained the difference this well. You have one more subscriber :)
I've had a VA panel for over a year now and the smearing has only even been noticeable when actually running a smearing test. I don't have any problems like at 8:15 and 8:30. Plus, VA panels are significantly cheaper than IPS panels, roughly $100 cheaper. I can get a good 32" 1440p 165hz VA monitor for the same price as a good 27" 144hz IPS monitor.
omg thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! i know NOTHING about technology and was tossing up between two monitors where the only difference is the IPA vs VA. You broke it down so well and made it easy to understand especially for someone who feels very overwhelmed when it comes to this jargon. Thank you SO MUCH!!!! (I'm grabbing the IPS btw- thanks so much for your point about content creating because thats exactly what I'm grabbing it for! :) )
This is one hell of a channel. Precise, detailed and absolutely on point every time! Kudos Man!
*QUANTUM DOT is very promising...*
Quantum Dot has already been in use, but it takes a while to shift screen technology. It will help for LCD panels (IPS and VA) as well as OLED to help prevent burn-in. Let me explain why. First off, let's get a simple understanding of what QD does. Basically, each pixel on a screen has three sub-pixels that produce red, green or blue light. OLED subpixels each produce their own light whereas LCD has LED backlights that pass through an LCD filter.
Quantum Dot technology involves coating each sub-pixel with material that absorbs the light from the OLED/LED light it's on then emits it again. With OLED this allows you to have the same OLED backlight material (all blue rather than red, green and blue), thus you can decouple research for the backlight material from the QD material. Thus it's far easier to come up with a solution that doesn't suffer from burn-in. You can concentrate on the light-producing material that is most STABLE and use QD material that is optimized for its purpose of absorption/emission only.
LCD panels can do something similar. You can coat the LED backlights such that you produce a narrower BANDWIDTH of frequencies for "red", "green" and "blue" ranges. This allows you to redesign the LCD panel around those narrower frequency ranges. Thus, you can more easily control the light that is emitted which leads to DEEPER BLACKS, and better response times (less blur in motion).
If I had to GUESS I'd say that QD + IPS will work better than QD + VA, and that QD + OLED will be the ultimate solution but that OLED still will take some time to solve the burn-in issues even with QD. And manufacturing can't shift overnight anyway.
I think QD + OLED is basically the final design for panel technology. Or something by another name that's basically identical. On the engineering side the goal is to get a simple PRINTER approach which is a lot more complicated than it sounds.
While my flat VA monitor is such a slow panel, with a very significant colour shift of red getting very bright slightly off-axis, I'm pretty satisfied with it as it was affordable and has been serving me well for ~2 years.
Commenting more for the algorithm's engagement than to say anything.
Very detailed video, all I remember about VA was its impressive contrast ratio. I forgot about all the cons. This explains while playing The Last of Us remastered it looks extremely blurry while panning the camera in a dark scene and that ruined the game for me. I thought it was because of my TV size 55"(larger displays ghosting is more noticeable I think). I might have to give up VA but it's a hard choice because we enjoy movies at night with the lights off.
Why not have a dual monitor setup with a KVM switch or cast to the TV? Then you can have both. Doesn't have to be either/or.
@@alexapuerta I'll stick with a VA panel with my TV for now. My monitor is also a VA though. My end game goal is an OLED for my television screen
@@alexapuerta a dual monitor setup is a possibility but I'm trying to figure out how I would do it because my monitor is a curved one.
@@noahw5887 You can have a dual monitor curved setup.
@@alexapuerta really? I thought having 2 curved would cause the center or the "sweet spot" to be extremely difficult
I feel that after watching this video, I know everything I need to know and don't need to watch any other video on the matter. Thank you.
I have an ASUS VA Panel, 32" curved, 2560 x 1440 res. For me, it works great and I love it. Went from a 24" IPS panel to this one, and am very happy I did. But, VA is not for everyone or every situation. With the VA panel, the deep blacks and high contrast are what wowed me, and the color saturation is excellent! The off-axis view angles aren't nearly as good as IPS, but that's not an issue for me. TN is the only panel type I despise, otherwise, whatever works in IPS or VA is cool!
I got a VA panel benq 24" 1080p with 144hz. Never going back to this shit again, atleast not 1080p. I feel like you can see the pixels on text with my monitor, also when im watching something dark my monitor just randomly go superdark and i need to open something bright (for example notepad) in order for it to go back to normal. Also my AC power cord needs to sit in one specific angle in order for my monitor to work. Also the off-axis viewing angle hasn't been too much of a issue for me either after all these years that i could think of, until i actually started thinking about how often i move my monitor and that is probably the cause of the AC power connector issue.
But like 3 days ago i ordered a new ips 27" 1440p monitor, can't wait to test that out after all the good reviews. Im using a VA panel 1440p 32" curved at work, it works excellent there but i dont think i would enoy a curved one for FPS gaming.
I run both an IPS as a secondary and VA curved as a main gaming monitor. Best of both worlds.
Well said! The blacks/contrast is why I always go VA for my TVs. I went IGZO-IPS for my monitor though and I really like it! Monoprice DM 27" 1440p 180z IGZO
thank you for this. I had it in my head that IPS response time was slow and VA was fast. I'm glad you cleared that up. Pretty much zero reason not to get an IPS one for myself now
Absolutely amazing! I bought a VA panel monitor for competitive gaming and i was truly satisfied by my purchase. But with this video so detailed and so rich of content, examples and actual knowledge, i was able to forget about other panels and live on with mine. Thank you so much for the effort put into this! Love from BR.
What monitor you got?
@@mountainlove7854 A Curved Ultrrawide 200hz PMG30C920WFG Philco
VA isn't really bad for competetive gaming. For these kinds of games it's important to get information early and to get a lot of information but those values don't suffer from black smearing.
You can divide the factor for 'speed' of a gaming monitor (or any monitor for that matter) in three parts:
1. Signal latency. The time the actual hardware needs to swap a frame (sometimes referred to as input lag). This has nothing to do with the LC technology.
The signal latency describes how fast you get the frame information
2. Refresh rate. The higher the refresh rate the more visual feedback you get which helps to smooth your aim. This also has nothing to do with the LC technology.
The refresh rate desicribes how many frames and thus picture information you get
3. The latency of the actual LCs. Here the panel technology is important, TN is the fastest, VA the slowest.
The LC latency describes how clear the frame information is
Obviously for a competetive shooter it's most important to get picture information as early as possible because than you can react faster than your opponent. So signal latency is the most important for a gaming monitor. Sadly manufactures doesn't need to tell you the value, so you have to check other sources like rtings.
And as your aim then decides whether you hit or miss, refresh rate is also very important for such a panel.
However whether your target has some coronas due to high overdrive or some smearing around the edge... That's just not important for the question who wins the gun fight.
I'm glad I found your channel, I think thanks to DisplayNinja. I learned A LOT of new terms and what they really mean in pratice with this video, but most important, I learned why I can't find a damn 24" curved FHD IPS monitor. It's a panel's thing.
While I'm still confused AF, now I know what I'm looking for, for gaming, is an IPS one. So really thanks.
The curve helps prevent the color and brightness shifting in the corners. The ips seems more clinically precise while the VA has a more relaxed image that isn't strobing you in the face making it easier on the eyes for extended viewing. The slower refresh is an advantage there while a disadvantage as mentioned. It depends on what you are looking for.
a slower refresh rate is definitely not easier on the eyes.
*It should also be added that IPS displays have a setting called GAMING that cranks the contrast. BenQ, Samsung, LG, Asus, MSi, etc. They all have it. It kicks the blacks all the way down and the bright, vibrant colors get very deep. It is so gorgeous. I play in a dark room. My IPS has no glow when gaming on that setting.*
Contrast is horrible on all ips panel..cmon i tested a few
Your video is excellent and so spot-on! Thanks! What I find curious is, that comparing VA and IPS side by side, I always find the VA to look "washed out" and a bit unsharp. It is even apparent in your video, where you just filmed the monitors. Do you know why the VA looks so washed out and less sharp? Is it the combination smearing / less color depth?
Love your channel!
Very informative, precise and useful information. On top of that, it’s a joy to watch.
Looking forward to more great content.
I have found your videos on monitors the absolute best and most telling. Thank you! It really has helped me make a better choice for me and what I will be using it for!!!
Ended up getting a BenQ EX2510 after seeing your stellar impressions of the model and haven't looked back since! That said, always a pleasure to get your thoughts on assorted technologies. Any plans on covering OLED displays and seeing how they fare against VA and IPS, or perhaps more niche, CRTs? It could well be confirmation bias but I much prefer the look of objects in motion on the 120Hz AMOLED display on my mobile phone compared to the 144Hz IPS on the BenQ, and some reports from the like of HDTVTest show that OLEDs generally have amazingly fast response time performance relative to other technologies, and it'd be grand to see you cover that.
thanks again for the informative content!
I have been researching old monitor for upgrade recently. Unfortunately there are not much good oled monitors out there. All good ones are 4k and huge in size and heavily expensive. The Alienware is a perfect monitor if you can afford it (4k ultra wide). Also other good option is lg c2. Waiting for a 1440p mid-sized old to launch (literally there are 0 options as of today.
OLEDs win. I can compare my laptop (Asus Vivobook 15 Pro OLED) in my local electronics store and even this 800€ laptop with a calibrated 1080p OLED DESTROYS everything there, 2000€+ gaming laptops aswell as even the iMacs and Macbooks they have. Much more vibrant colours, perfect viewing angles, deep blacks, there's nothing like it
@@xPandamon Yeah, much as I love how the IPS on my main PC looks I can't help but agree that the OLED on my Samsung phone (an S20FE) looks a lot better with regard to motion and shadows. Of course there're black crush issues at lower brightness settings, but It's grand overall. The only thing that really bites is how OLED panels have a shorter life expectancy by far (and oversaturation problems when not well-calibrated).
@@Lyander25 The screen on my laptop is well calibrated, yet it's pretty intensive when it comes to colours. Seems too high at first, but once you play some games on it or watch some movies you notice that's intended. Compared to a phone screen or my old PS Vita a bigger OLED is another experience entirely, even though I got the laptop without a dedicated GPU, the screen alone makes it worth it for light gaming and work of course. Even has a Pantone certification ^^
Watch: 'Stop! Before you buy an OLED monitor' by TFTCentral. Also a phone isn't the same as a large monitor because it isn't the Windows OS and the sub-pixels are far smaller on a phone as well, you will need to watch the video to understand how it would make a difference.
Danke für das Outro - hab mir doch gedacht, dass du Deutsch sprichst :D
Abgesehen davon: Mega Video und ich hab super viel gelernt! Vor allem das mit der Response Time war mega einleuchtend und wusste ich so vorher noch nicht. Danke dafür
IPS, VA and TN virgins vs the CRT chad
Fr man it's like the LCD evolved backwards in term of Contrast xD
@@ShigeBoye what is nt?
@@gorkie6998 TN panel is the quickest, but the colors..
@@maxkruppa3716 OLED is the Quickest
A great way to conduct a detail research.
Good job, bro.
The first time I bought an IPS monitor, I didn't really know what IPS meant so you can imagine how bummed out I was when I started playing games -- and watching movies, especially dark-themed ones.
The images just looked so much better on my older "VA" monitor in my opinion.
and I didn't really have any problems getting to GlobalElite or ApexPredator ranks with either panel type.
So, maybe what I'm trying to say is... I just like the deeper blacks on the VA? 😅
I didn't know that most VA monitors are curved. Thanks for information, it seems IPS or OLED are best choice for work+gaming combo.
VA have additional problem at certain price point, such as ultra low end. Usually if we compare those low cost 1080P/1440P ips vs VA, VA panel will display more aggressive then normal smearing and poor response time, this is due to VA panel need more fine tuning from OEM to reach an acceptable level of pixel overdrive, the consumer is playing a dangerous game of dice buying budget VA, you will never know where did they cut cost.
Yep. There is a small handful of decent to good VA monitors. But keen research is needed to avoid disappointment.
Now this is called a freaking review! Thanks a bunch!
From my personal experience I prefer VA panels all the way over ips especially when it comes to gaming. I felt that my ips monitor had bad eye comfort in that it was very tiring for my eyes and in videogames movement feels much more fluid on my va monitor. Then there is also the greater contrast ratio and the picture looking way more detailed and HighRes compared to ips. But I must say its not worth buying a curved model. Because curved in general is stupid. I currently look for a flat va panel but there are only a handful monitors to choose from.
curved is so much better and also relaxing for the eyes
AG27qx The best flat screen va for the price of its presence or colors
Absolutely terrific video! Especially if you're like me and didn't even know these two types of monitors existed before today. I'm looking at monitors online (as I type this) and the description had VA which is what prompted the search that brought me to this video. Thank you very much for making it! The explanations were easy to understand and I love the amount of detail you've included. Just right. :)
You brought VA?
My personal choice has always been the IPS because of its more accurate color reproduction and overall capabilities
That makes no sense.
It's been a while since I've seen such a well put together video. Good job and thank you!
Excellent comparison video. That white text on black background test made it conclusive for me to avoid VA panel as I try to make all my software run in dark mode. Although, I would have loved to see a close-up of the white text on black background for the VA panel (just like you showed for the IPS panel).
Yeah, the Odyssey G7 and G9 are the only VA monitors in the entire market that are viable.
wow! the only mention of the VA dark mode text phenomenon i've seen. thank you.
I use Benq 24" flat VA monitor, mainly for development work and I really like the contrast in code editor like VS Code.
Maybe, my next will be VA only because of this contrast.
Very well explained, as I am upgrading my current rig, was searching difference between the VA and the IPS and came across your video. Highly captivating, kept me engaged and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I highly appreciate it. In the end I came to the conclusion that IPS is a better choice overall.
A few years ago I was upgrading my monitors, first one and then later got a second one. Both times I did a lot of research to figure out what I wanted and what my best options were. For the first monitor, everything I saw was like this video; biased towards IPS and away from VA, recommending it (same for G-Sync, which I now think is worthless garbage). Since at the time I was a competitive gamer I went for an IPS 165hz 1440p 27" screen from AOC (about 3-4 years ago now). Now, for competitive games it was actually pretty good, and the image quality in bright scenes was quite decent. But the contrast was TRASH. Like, even worse than my old 1080p TN panel, by far. Playing Skyrim I could see jack-all in a cave, because no matter how you set the brightness or whatever the inherent IPS glow washes everything out. Also, viewing angles are also garbage, even the slightest angle would make the screen look white/washed out. It also came with a dead pixel straight out of the box, which was the cherry on top.
Then probably a year later I decided I wanted to try out 4K, and get a second monitor. So I found this large Philips 4K monitor (43") that was pretty much a TV converted into a PC monitor as far as I can tell. VA panel, only 60 hz, HDR 1000 or something. Now, this monitor I really love. Firstly it is blindingly bright if you turn it up, enough that you can use it in a sunlit room and it overpowers glare on the screen. In normal use I have it at 20-30% brightness and that is still bright. Image quality wise, the contrast is fantastic, dark scenes look exactly as they should. Movies in 4K look amazing. For games, I almost always wind up still using this monitor even though it's only 60 HZ, because frankly while high hz monitors feel a lot smoother and nicer, if I really had to pick in most cases I would go for the contrast ratio over the refresh rate, and that's ignoring that you could get a high refresh rate VA monitor anyway. For me at least a big part of that is the fact that I stopped playing competitive style games, which is the only place you really need it.
As is, my IPS monitor is now on the side turned at 90" angle and used for sublime text coding mostly, lol. As for VA, I have never noticed any of the problems this video mentions. I don't know if I just got a bad IPS monitor and a good VA one (mine is flat, btw), but I am pretty heavily in favor of VA over IPS after my own experiences.
It's should be impossible that an IPS would have garbage viewing angles! The BEST part about IPS is that is has the BEST viewing angles out of all main panel technologies!! And VA is the one which is notorious for having garbage viewing angles! It's a night and day difference when viewed from the side, VA becomes washed out (like in the video) and IPS does not. I personally had to return 2 TV's because both had VA panels, and while the picture quality was amazing from the front, the second I changed my position the picture became washed out! Maybe ur IPS was actually TN... 🤷♂
@@MaximusAdonicus Well, OLED screens have the best viewing angles afaik, not IPS. As for mine, I just tested it again now just to double check. At an angle my IPS screen has this white-ish washed out look (fairly sharp angle, to be fair) - my VA screen has no such thing, it almost never washes out no matter what angle I look at it, just gets dimmer at extreme angles. And I'm positive it is an IPS monitor, it has the "IPS glow" in parts of the screen which is a major part of what I hate about it, this ugly smearing that discolors things. Never seen that in any other style of monitor. Like I said maybe I just got a dud IPS screen, I almost returned it when I got it due to the dead pixel but they say you need at least 5 in order to do that (and to be fair you can't notice it unless you're really looking up close).
@@larion2336 Yeah, I didn't count in oled's as part of the og 3, which were also in the video. I don't really count oled's in any occasion because the burn-in factor... I have heard that some high-end VA's have better viewing angles, but I haven't seen/tested one... but those are outta my budget, so it wouldn't matter anyway. Though I'd be curious if those can match the v.angles of the mighty IPS 🤔 But like I said, by default IPS has great v.angles and VA does not, thus u must have had the worst IPS ever created and one of the best VA's in the universe!
Can u tell the model of ur IPS monitor, so I can google it? #ForScience
This was a fantastic explanation. A step by step explanation of the advantages and pitfalls. Thank you very much!
Video starts at 9:30
am in the market looking for monitors and the youtube algorithm got me here. Not complaining. I now know what I need to get. Thanks for making it simple.
Get a crt monitor
smooth fps
no motion blur
great for your wallet
no input lag
no bad viewing angles
high fps
high resolution
great contrast
great colors
works on everything
"high energy consumption"
annoying calibration (sometimes)
heavy
spacey
usually 4:3
a bit of tinkering with windows so that it won't default to 60fps making the image quite flickery but custom resolution utility will do the job so it defaults to 70 which looks and feels like 140hz on a flat screen
Wait I have a Samsung smt1938 cctv monitor in the closet is that what you're describing?
@@essarajab9901 more of a pc monitor
Some cctv monitors like sony pvm are good but they are more similar to crt TVs as they have tv inputs and have low refreshrates, interlacing and extremely low resolutions to a crt pc monitor with just 480i vs. The typical range of 796p to 1200p
"Crt TVs"
Only for nostalgia, retro games but overall quite meh
"Crt PC monitors"
Great for any budget, awesome for graphics or gameplay
Link?
CRT text clarity is just sh1t, CRT are great for media consuming, but terrible with text and small objects
@@LETTITBITYT tv sets yeah because they are low res
Pc monitors not because higher resolution and if so your focus isn't calibrated
This is a really good video that helped a lot. I never comment in tech videos but this one deserved a thank you from me !
0:19 oled and micro led
Oh! You have a very symphatic german touch in your english! Normally, i really struggle with this german accent, but in your case, it just adds a clearness to the words, which i find somehow very pleasant 😀 Thx for this very informative video, im currently looking for my first gamjng/editing Monitor and the information given in this video was actually very helpful! ❤
This guy looks like a AI character.
The last comparison really hit the nail in the coffin for me.
Love that you included photo and video editing advice 👌 really informative.
That description of the r rating made so much sense it blew my mind. I never considered a 1500 mm radius.
I thought it was radians and threw my hands up saying a bigger number means more degrees. Still don't know how you would get to such a big number though seeing 180°/π is 1 radian.
New owner of a Samsung G7 32" here. Never had a curved monitor before and I was pretty terrified of the 1000R curve when I bought it, but I decided to be bold and take a chance. 30 seconds into my first game and was in love with this monitor. The color shift and smearing are a little like air; people tell me it's there and I believe them ...but I don't see it at all. The G7 is my first VA panel and so far I'm pretty damned impressed.
Hey mate I was just wondering, what is the light bleed like in the corners of your G7 and what is the colour like? I had an 28inch 4k asus TUF monitor with HDR but the IPS glow was absolutely shit for dark areas, so it was impossible to enjoy a horror game but the overall colour and everything about it was really good, but because of the glow i have refunded it and and am i looking at getting the samsung G7 32'' at 1440, would you say you are still happy with it 2 weeks on from your comment?
@@SlanderMan. I still absolutely love this monitor; so much so that I just bought it a new RTX 4080 ...and it only got better. The color is really good right out of the box. I didn't feel it was necessary to touch a thing. The only thing I had to tweak was the contrast and sharpness a bit to get them where I liked them. I can't really comment on how it performs on dark games because I don't play any, but as for light bleed I don't notice any. If I have one complaint that would be with the sand. This is one heavy assed monitor and I suppose some screen shake is to be expected. On a sturdy desk during normal usage it never presents a problem ...but still.
@@loyalopposition-us Hmm yeah that's good then iv heard a lot about it being good for gaming, I'm gonna downgrade from 4k to 2k anyway because my pc cant handle 4k high frames so this monitor seems perfect, the stand for my 4k monitor was pretty hefty as well its not lightweight I tell ya now, but thanks for taking your time to comment back bro its good to get opinion from someone who has the actual monitor.
@@SlanderMan. Going from 4k to 2k on a 32" monitor you're going to see some pixels depending on how far away from your monitor you sit. I sit 30 USA inches away and mostly I never notice it, but sometimes on some games it's pretty evident. That's the trade off you face when running at 2k though. Still, it's miles ahead of 1080p and doesn't crush your FPS.
@@loyalopposition-us Yeah Im sitting roughly about the same tbh so maybe a 32 isnt the best choice? i wanted the 28 but they are sold out, could always wait a bit longer and try bag a 28incher
Nicely done. Good narration with clear video illustration. JR
Excellent video, man. Keep it up!
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