I totally agree with you!! I lived in Tallahassee for a long time and the heat is much worse there than it is in Boise Idaho and then that louisiana-monroe game was pitiful!!
@@aronsanchez6999 We don't owe Taggart shit. He used a Booster's plane to go interview for the FSU job and tried to take Mario and our entire staff with him to FSU. If Taggart had his way Oregon wouldn't have had any coaches left from the Taggart era. Fuck him.
He has never accepted responsibility for anything. He blames players, coaches, and even officiating. You name it. He will never say claim to blame. Even at Oregon he was always blaming someone else. He's a horrible coach and has loyalty to horrible coordinators, which means he isn't likely going to hire good staff. They might luck out a little though since he brought in J. Leavitt. Jim will basically mask Taggarts sub-par coaching abilities.
@@lsesternester3231 You are a Clemson fan. Come on man. This is why people don't like Clemson fans now. Because of ignorant comments like this. This is their team win or lose. Clemson is ours win or lose. At least have some type of respect for others. If you've learned nothing from Dabo, learn to put God first and treat people with respect. Smh!!! I remember when our boys were struggling too and we had really decent talent. Florida State is still a great program. Don't go to sleep on them. They will surprise you.
19' is Taggerts team , FSU fans really gonna blame this one on Jimbo . FSU is a mess , I hv Noles going 7-5 in a weak conference top to bottom excluding Clemson
I'm a die hard Noles fan since 92' and you did a great job on this video and though your a Gators fan you showed no bias or disrespect and I commend you for that. We have been struggling since 2015 and thank you for pointing out that Jimbo screwed us and caused this mess because it's all on him! I hope Taggart gets us back on track but I am on the fence if he will be the coach to do it but I support him no matter what and how much he loves FSU so I really hope he gets us back on track. We have ALWAYS had a lot of haters and when we finished in 2013-14 I didn't hear any of them until we finally lost but it's all good we will silence then again soon I promise you that!!!
Yea Jimbo ruined it all because he was trying to make FSU upgrade it’s football facilities so he could keep recruiting with the top schools. Fsu went cheap and they sold out for a shitty ass coach that will never win more then 6 games with the schedule the noles have... I mean honestly what’s his best record 9 wins in 10 years.. I hate to hate but Jimbo did a lot for us and kept the tradition going from Bowden. Yea he did us wrong going out for the bigger contract out of no where but Willie could never coach as well as fisher. Just watch if Willie is there more than 2 years from now the whole team will be full of 2 and 3 star players if he’s lucky. Nobody wants to play for FSU now
FSU is getting what they deserve. The fans and university pushed Bobby Bowden out. Also dont blame it all on Jimbo. The administration itself and a cheating wife have toget some credit also
@@stanglife97cobra72 No one deserves to go through these shitty times as a team, coach, and University! They work their asses off and to lose the way we did sucks and no one "deserves" to go through that!!
@@sIudgefactory Jimbo did do a lot for us and I really hate he left trust me but he did leave us really shitty especially not calling recruits months before he left that was messed up! I don't blame him taking more money we all know college football is a business as well and I'll never forgot the good times we had with Jimbo but you can't say he didn't leave this coaching staff a mess to clean up! I hope Taggart can turn it around and will support him but I do have doubts if he can succeed here but I don't want to be negative and shit on him I do think this season is do or die so to speak for his future here at FSU.
Ready Set Show Podcast Taggart just won’t I mean can’t recruit well... Jimbo just signed the #1 QB commit for next year at Texas A&M lol. Jimbo went to a not so good aggies team and competed with bama and Clemson right out the gate.. Willie took over a top 25 team and top 10 team in general as far as talented positions and got blown out left and right... it is sad but I blame the university for rushing into something serious with a bs coach
DUDE!!! I'm a diehard Noles fan. I'm extremely impressed with this video. You did an amazing job doing your homework on what to research. NAILED IT! I'm a fan and will definitely be hitting subscribe and thumbs up! GREAT JOB!
@@bennyblanco4008 That team has plenty of talent. Their just not coached right. Their RB is a great RB. They have some good WRs too. They just need an identity.
@@Supergoat76 Not true at all dude. According to the 2019 US news college ranking list, FSU is the 26th best public university, while UF is 8th, and UGA is 13th, and Texas A&M is 24th. All SEC schools.
One of the reasons is that the 3 big College Football teams in Florida had Florida pretty much all to themselves for recruiting, but now many schools outside the state are heavily recruiting in FL.. The Louisville Cardinals is a great example, and now they have a winning program.. The talent level isn't anywhere near what it used to be for the 3 big Florida College Football teams, but the great talent coming out of Florida high schools hasn't changed at all.
I met my wife in 13' My team won the NATTY in 13' I had a very successful year in 13' I was happy in 13' 6 years... so many good things can deteriorate in just 6 years Love.. peace... happiness to all
@Trump 2020 Such a shame. I looked forward to the 2nd Tuesday of every July from 2006-2013 to get the new EA Sports NCAA football game. Maybe they can resurrect it with deals for the players to get in on the money.
Im going to call it lie it is. A black coach on the short list. Fire him and see where the recruiting ends up. Jimbo fisher screwed the program and these suckers were quiet.
Thank you so much for the candor with this. It was so clear that Jimbo just stopped coaching and recruiting his last 2 seasons. Taggart has his work cut out for him but they’ll be back.
@@robertbogert8257 you speak straight facts and you can really say since Butch Davis (regarding coaches and players). After he left and his last players (Sean Taylor's class) left, the struggle started.
marcus hardy Michigan st has not had a downfall, they had badddd injuries last year, Texas is literally is a top 10 team lol and Oklahoma st has always been average
@@Ethan-zm9dw have Texas been able to win a BIg (XII)12 Championship besides beating Oklahoma last year. That little "We Rising speech" is Completely irrelevant They don't even have the Best Defense in the Country
This was really well done! Thanks for creating it. When FSU played Bama in 2017, everyone wanted a slugfest but they were already struggling with the aftermath of Jimbo's lax ways in his last few moments with the program. I've kept a closer eye on them since then and it's been a rough road. I always appreciate a good history so once again I commend you on taking the time on this.
Chandler Tingle: They were only a top team a few short periods in their history, but where they are now is where they have been the majority of their history.
I have two graduate degrees from FSU. FSU is not the team I pull for most -- that would be the school I got my bachelor's from -- but I still would like to see FSU do well, and more importantly, do it the right way. So if the current struggles come from "when he let Jameis Winston do whatever he wanted", that is fitting. Winning a Heisman Trophy and a national championship does not make up for what Winston did, to say nothing of what he was plausibly accused of having done. Florida State should not want him to represent them, yet that is exactly what FSU chose. If the consequence of this is that the football program is in the toilet for a decade, it is a consequence well earned.
That said, nothing in Taggart's record before coming to Tallahassee made me think he was a sure thing. He had a so-so record at smaller schools, then coached one year at Oregon; but if a coach is a good fit for Oregon, he simply cannot be a good fit for a team that plays Clemson, Florida, and Miami every year -- the competition, the culture, and the expectations are just too different. On top of that, if Taggart has not already lost the confidence of his team, and made them lose confidence in himself, he is on the verge of it, and the expectation of losing can quickly become a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's a shame, too, since he seems to be making an attempt to demand character. We'll see soon how Texas A&M's expensive gamble on Jimbo works out.
You had me at blaming Willie Taggart lol. Glad you're informed and did some research instead of regurgitating garbage by other outlets and sites. Jimbo is the reason FSU is in the position they're in, not Taggart. Taggart has turned around EVERY SINGLE program he's been at. Give him three years to get this thing back on track.
What the hell are you smoking? He has NOT turned around "every single program" he's been at. 3 years at Western Kentucky 16-20 4 years at South Florida 24-25 1 year at Oregon 7-5 2 years at Florida State 8-11 Taggart has been to 1 bowl game in all those seasons as well. It was a loss to Western Kentucky 45-35 *Willie Taggart WILL be fired from his position as head coach of FSU. He's not the coach to run this program, nor was he ever the right move to be hired in the first place.*
I'm a life long Gator fan. I have a hard time saying good things about the Noles. But after the blow out last year, I realized that I would rather have FSU be good so the annual game against them will be good. Last year was boring. Also, when it comes to National Championship games, if the Gators aren't in it, I want to root for either an SEC team or a Florida team. I want FSU to get back to their glory. The Bowden v Spurrier days will never come back but I think it will be good again. Great video.
As someone who grew up in Tallahassee in the 80s and remembers all, and I mean all the 80s teams at FSU, the downfall of the football program actually starts in the mid 90s when Bobby started filling his roster with nothing but 4 and 5 star players. The program under Bobby was built on walk on's with a chip on your shoulder mentality that gave the team an edge and hunger. When the team was filled with superstar players that mentality went away and over the next ten years as Bobby and his staff got older. The team became more and more entitled to the point that in Bobby's last two seasons it was common for some starters to refuse to even practice. When Jimbo became the head coach the culture really didn't change much with the exception the players practiced because Jimbo let them get away with far more away from the team than Bobby ever would. When Jimbo's wife cheated on him with former Florida Gator and Tallahassee resident Taylor Jacobs who was her personal trainer in 2013 -14 and another 20 something young man it was reported around town that Jimbo was already looking for a new school to coach once the divorce was finalized. And that's basically what happened. Jimbo didn't care what was going on behind the scenes of a program that he had already mentally checked out of the year prior. As far Taggert goes, good luck.
As an FSU fan, thank you. You explained everything better than anyone could. Jimbo left this team a complete mess and I believe if Taggart can hold players accountable on and off the field, FSU could be back. Maybe not necessarily this year, but in the near future.
I love watching these videos about how teams fell apart because I see now in 2023 how the game has changed so much. From teams like FSU who seemingly fell off, have now risen up, or are in the process of rising back up.
I grew up in Tallahassee, my father was the Principal at Leon High School there in Tally.I remember coach Pete and got to meet Bobby. I was there at the game the first time Chief Osceola planted the spear at midfield, Wally Woodham, Jimmy Jordan , from Leon HS, lot of history there, WE WILL BE BACK !
ucf fan, former fs fan, i remember their years in the early 2010's, i started routing for ucf in 2017 (btw what were we doing vs pitt) anyways i still route for florida state even if they are really bad, i would like to see them be better, its sad to see teams you like go down an seemingly inescapable rabbit hole.
I knew Taggart was an awful coach very early on. Honestly after the Virginia Tech game, I knew we had Fd up on a major scale. It's so obvious. And then you got guys like this making excuses for Taggart. It was nothing but excuses the whole time he was here! Man I'm so glad it's over now. Now Taggart can go ruin FAU. I despise Willie Taggart for what he did to our program.
Matt A: No doubt, remember in 1989 Miami lost a game but beat Notre Dame in the head to head that year and was awarded the NC. Four years later the media acted like the head to head didn’t matter.
@Matt A ND lost to Boston College AT HOME. They did not deserve the title and FSU was clearly the class of the NCAA. Penn Staters argue the same BS for '94 and Osborne.
@@IrishOhionan A "mediocre" team that beat the NC by two scores and the game was never close. Maybe not so mediocre. Oh, and beat hell out of a very good Nebraska team in the Fiesta.
TY, you hit the nail on the head Jimbutt screwed us, big time. I hope Taggart does well, now we have more Coaching exp. that is more akin to our style of football.
Good video. Appreciate the honest take especially since you are an admitted Gator :) Our current situation reminds me of how Urban left you guys and the time it took to get things turned around. Here's to a return to an exciting rivalry sometime soon!
My hometown is an hour north of Tallahassee and I kinda got to see this first hand, hate the way it happened, but I have faith Mile Norvell can get them back to relevance.
this is what happens when you research into what happened to FSU, so easy to blame the new guy for all the problems before. Digging even deeper into why Jimbo was the cause of this, after 2013, the coaching staff switched their strategy with recruiting. From leaders to, NFL talent, now this does go hand in hand sometimes but he picked up a lot of locker room cancers that did not lead the team. Francois was not the leader Winston was, and Blackman was luckily saved since he was humbled by a tough first season and his coach giving upon him. Yes, Willie made mistakes but he’s had one year he needs more time. edit: Willie DOESNT turn it around and seems to make zero progress and gets fired.
Hornibrook’s 26-6 record is mostly due to a stout defense and amazing run game. He is not that great of a quarterback. W/L record does not define a quarterback. This is coming from a Wisconsin fan.
You're spitting truth and as a true Noles fan it really stings me that this is the reality of Florida State football. I find it interesting that you made no mention of the Jameis Winston's rape allegation,. I heard a theory that Jimbo "salted the soil" intentionally because of that incident being that the school covered everything up and it absolutely rocked Jimbo to his core, which, I don't believe myself but it's definitely something to ponder.
Nick Bloomston me and my old man were at that game and we were so hammered that we can’t remember the first half, other than it was raining the whole time, and all we remember is getting clobbered in the second half 😢😢
As a diehard Gator fan since the age of 4 in 1992, I kinda almost feel bad for Fswho. I honestly liked when they were good it made the rivalry better. Jimblo really screwed them legit, left them high and dry I was shocked they hired Taggert. Now it's not looking like Mike is the HC they needed either. I'm sure eventually they will be back but it's not looking good right now.
I love these videos! It’s refreshing to get an unbiased take on these programs. Seems like you know what you’re talking about too. Keep up the great work.
A&M program is trending up & in great hands with Jimbo but ur schedule is toughest in the nation not complaining but u play Clemson, Bama , Auburn who by the way came from behind wit a true freshman to beat #10 Oregon & I aint finished at Georgia & LSU ..shit even Clemson & Bama might not win all those gms
Great video from a gators fan when the video started and you said you were a gators fan I was like here we go again but you actually surprised me and it was actually a really good video
I'm a die hard Noles fan. And I don't diminish what Jimbo left us with. But taking that into account, you can't just overlook how Willie had us looking last year. It was clear to analysts and ex coaches and people with high football IQ that out team looked poorly coached. I'm not so optimistic, I am concerned and don't have that much faith in Taggart . I hope I'm wrong.
@@omarguajardo05 I catch hell for my beliefs. From my own fan base. But I'm just living in reality. All the Jimbo stuff aside, Willie looked like a really bad coach last year.
Now they really see. All those excuses, all this bullshit blaming Jimbo. Willie Taggart is God awful. Worst coach in the ACC. And one of the worst in the country. And finally these excuse makers are starting to see! Willie Taggart is the worst thing that's ever happened to our program.
I must say, after having this video recommended to me multiple times I finally decided to watch figuring it would be someone hating on FSU having no knowledge of what truly transpired. But I must say you were spot-on with your observation of everything! Great video
Joyce Epps do a lot of people even know about that or was it mostly a Tallahassee known thing? Because literally everyone here knew about it. My friends dad worked out with the guy who she cheated (who was telling everyone) so it spread like wildfire
Now 3 chokes in a row. Sure it's Jimbo's fault to a large extent. But the defensive coordinator has to go - Barnett won't last the season and he shouldn't.
Jimbo should've got raked over the coals for what he did. He should've had to pay back his and his staffs entire 2017 salary for dereliction of duty. They flat out quit recruiting
Podcast i heard with a prominent GA highschool coach that had 5 commits to FSU including his own son sId that Jimbo and staff never contacted them after September of that season.... we lost all but 1 of those! Jimbo should have to pay back half or that years salary along with assistant coaches as well
I need a follow up video to this, Taggart has been fired and he and his coaching staff have produced, by far the most undisciplined and cantankerous team with absolutely no true fight in them. Signed, Suffering Noles fan
I cannot believe your folks hired him. I mean, Miles was available, and he would've been 10x safer than Taggart! Not to mention a couple of other great candidates.
@@thunderbird1921 it was willful ignorance on multiple accounts my G. I was skeptical aaf and not even the least optimistic based on his track record alone 🤦🏽♂️
You produced a good video. Your quality shines through and woke me up. I thought, because of ESPN, CBS, ABC,.....ad nauseum that all sports commentary HAD TO BE BAD. I was so dumbed down by 'that stuff' on radio and TV that I had come to believe, 'If it is sports talk, it will be so stupid only those with sub 70 IQ will find it interesting.' You have shattered that belief. TU.
Trevor Kinney If you're referring to the 1996 Fiesta Bowl, the actual score was 62-24, which, if you do the math, is a 38 point defeat. 59-20 is a 39 point defeat to a team that didn't even win the national title that year, unlike Nebraska with Florida. Secondly, I don't really care about FSU or UF considering I'm a Kansas Jayhawks fan, so not only is your point wrong and irrelevant, but also misplaced. God, you're pathetic.
@@treymagathan847 it's hilarious how you try to be snarky and call me pathetic there, but I wasn't talking about any of those games. I was completely correct with what I was talking about. And a Kansas football fan has not room to call anyone pathetic btw lmao
Trevor Kinney Ah, I see you're referring to FSU's 63-20 defeat at the hands of Louisville. Like I said, I don't care about the ACC, being a Jayhawks fan. Too many times, I see pathetic people who take my casual shitpost to heart and try to act like I'm a fan of their rival using a false equivalence to somehow justify their bad doing. I apologize for the mistake. As for KU, they did win the Orange Bowl, a BCS bid, in 2008 over Virginia Tech, ironically enough, an ACC team. Unlike our perceived superior neighbors, Kansas State, who may have gone to several BCS Bowl Bids this century, but have never won one. In fact, they've gotten their asses blown out of their cavity every single time. It's perspective that a lot of people don't know or undervalue about the program. I personally believe that if the Jayhawks moved out of the Big 12 and played in a less prestigious conference, say the MAC, they'd be annual bowl bids. It's just that the Big 12 is too strong of a conference to healthily compete in, especially when the conference got relegated to 10 teams.
Whos here after Willie Taggart was fired?
Cameron I think this job will probably be mark stoops or Deion sanders
Willie Taggart really didn’t do anything.
taggart didn’t do shit
Willie was HORRIBLE
Jasonthehammer i think you meant to say taggart never happened
Awesome that you're a Florida fan and stayed so unbiased in your report. 100% Respect.
No he was a Florida fan he said he likes winners he's a Georgia and LA Rams fan now🤣
@@allencollins9951 He's a frontrunner for sure
Chiefs and Georgia lol
Well I just give up, Taggert blamed dehydration for the loss... are you kidding, Boise can handle the heat better than a Florida team? Come on man
I totally agree with you!! I lived in Tallahassee for a long time and the heat is much worse there than it is in Boise Idaho and then that louisiana-monroe game was pitiful!!
Thank God he came to Oregon and left us. We owe Taggart for bringing Mario Cristobal to Oregon tho.
@@aronsanchez6999 We don't owe Taggart shit. He used a Booster's plane to go interview for the FSU job and tried to take Mario and our entire staff with him to FSU. If Taggart had his way Oregon wouldn't have had any coaches left from the Taggart era. Fuck him.
He has never accepted responsibility for anything. He blames players, coaches, and even officiating. You name it. He will never say claim to blame. Even at Oregon he was always blaming someone else. He's a horrible coach and has loyalty to horrible coordinators, which means he isn't likely going to hire good staff. They might luck out a little though since he brought in J. Leavitt. Jim will basically mask Taggarts sub-par coaching abilities.
You don't have Jimbob or Bobby Bowden anymore. You've been living in a fantasy land. Get used to it😉
It’s like FSU, Miami, and Florida take turns at being the best Florida team and being dominant then you don’t hear any about the other for awhile
Meanwhile at UCF...
Now they all suck
Steve C Miami does not suck
@@stevec7770 Uh, UF finished 10-3 last season and there's no reason to think they won't at least duplicate that this season.
@@yhg7ygo7g7igoi They were 7-6 last season. That's not good.
Whose here after the Florida State choke job against Bosie state!!!
BThreatTV me🤦🏾♂️
@@lsesternester3231
You are a Clemson fan. Come on man. This is why people don't like Clemson fans now. Because of ignorant comments like this. This is their team win or lose. Clemson is ours win or lose. At least have some type of respect for others. If you've learned nothing from Dabo, learn to put God first and treat people with respect. Smh!!! I remember when our boys were struggling too and we had really decent talent. Florida State is still a great program. Don't go to sleep on them. They will surprise you.
@@lsesternester3231 no need for that, buddy. Try being nice!
19' is Taggerts team , FSU fans really gonna blame this one on Jimbo . FSU is a mess , I hv Noles going 7-5 in a weak conference top to bottom excluding Clemson
@@terrell2002 I will be surprised if they win a game all year.
I'm a die hard Noles fan since 92' and you did a great job on this video and though your a Gators fan you showed no bias or disrespect and I commend you for that. We have been struggling since 2015 and thank you for pointing out that Jimbo screwed us and caused this mess because it's all on him! I hope Taggart gets us back on track but I am on the fence if he will be the coach to do it but I support him no matter what and how much he loves FSU so I really hope he gets us back on track. We have ALWAYS had a lot of haters and when we finished in 2013-14 I didn't hear any of them until we finally lost but it's all good we will silence then again soon I promise you that!!!
Yea Jimbo ruined it all because he was trying to make FSU upgrade it’s football facilities so he could keep recruiting with the top schools. Fsu went cheap and they sold out for a shitty ass coach that will never win more then 6 games with the schedule the noles have... I mean honestly what’s his best record 9 wins in 10 years.. I hate to hate but Jimbo did a lot for us and kept the tradition going from Bowden. Yea he did us wrong going out for the bigger contract out of no where but Willie could never coach as well as fisher. Just watch if Willie is there more than 2 years from now the whole team will be full of 2 and 3 star players if he’s lucky. Nobody wants to play for FSU now
FSU is getting what they deserve. The fans and university pushed Bobby Bowden out. Also dont blame it all on Jimbo. The administration itself and a cheating wife have toget some credit also
@@stanglife97cobra72 No one deserves to go through these shitty times as a team, coach, and University! They work their asses off and to lose the way we did sucks and no one "deserves" to go through that!!
@@sIudgefactory Jimbo did do a lot for us and I really hate he left trust me but he did leave us really shitty especially not calling recruits months before he left that was messed up! I don't blame him taking more money we all know college football is a business as well and I'll never forgot the good times we had with Jimbo but you can't say he didn't leave this coaching staff a mess to clean up! I hope Taggart can turn it around and will support him but I do have doubts if he can succeed here but I don't want to be negative and shit on him I do think this season is do or die so to speak for his future here at FSU.
Ready Set Show Podcast Taggart just won’t I mean can’t recruit well... Jimbo just signed the #1 QB commit for next year at Texas A&M lol. Jimbo went to a not so good aggies team and competed with bama and Clemson right out the gate.. Willie took over a top 25 team and top 10 team in general as far as talented positions and got blown out left and right... it is sad but I blame the university for rushing into something serious with a bs coach
I have been a FSU fan my whole life and seeing how far they fell after winston left is heartbreaking
Let this sink it, just a few years ago we had 2 qb's who would each go on to win a national championship.. (Winston & Coker)
And now we’re on a rise!!!!
Anyone here after the boise state loss?
Tallahassee still blaming Jimbo ..Taggert be like "Right Right ! 🚽
@@Hollywood-up6gq Cant even spell Taggart smh
-impulse- NO
@@jusslance8132 only stupid people who have nothing correct grammar
@@donjohnson7556 only stupid people who have nothing reply 2 months late
DUDE!!! I'm a diehard Noles fan. I'm extremely impressed with this video. You did an amazing job doing your homework on what to research. NAILED IT! I'm a fan and will definitely be hitting subscribe and thumbs up! GREAT JOB!
Victor Warner only because u heard that your shitty season had nothing to do with your coach, keep believing in Taggart then lol
Omar Guajardo stfu man. Let him give his support
John Wick Didn’t do any favors for Oregon either. Toxic wherever he goes.
Go uf
They almost lost to ULM 45-44 tonight it's week 2 😂
Its awesome aint it? And this guy blames ole Jimbo 😂
@@bennyblanco4008 Blame Jimbo all you want, FSU has plenty of talent to beat ULM lol... FSU has enough talent to go 8-4 probably.
@@rocksjoshua Enough Talent? where at? I haven't seen any
@@bennyblanco4008 That team has plenty of talent. Their just not coached right. Their RB is a great RB. They have some good WRs too. They just need an identity.
@American Nationalist I agree with you. I'm not saying they will go 8-4. I'm saying if they had a good coach, they could go 8-4
Holy shit a non toxic Gators fan 😩
Fuck off bitch
Christian\ Richardson u mad
It's interesting that fans call their rivals' fanbase toxic indiscriminately 😂
@John Wick True, but fsu academics are still a step up from any SEC school, with the exception of Vanderbilt
@@Supergoat76 Not true at all dude. According to the 2019 US news college ranking list, FSU is the 26th best public university, while UF is 8th, and UGA is 13th, and Texas A&M is 24th. All SEC schools.
😂😂 Need a Pt.2 after that Jacksonville state game
U hate to see it
One of the reasons is that the 3 big College Football teams in Florida had Florida pretty much all to themselves for recruiting, but now many schools outside the state are heavily recruiting in FL.. The Louisville Cardinals is a great example, and now they have a winning program.. The talent level isn't anywhere near what it used to be for the 3 big Florida College Football teams, but the great talent coming out of Florida high schools hasn't changed at all.
very very good point man. I hadn't considered this before. what do you think will help change that in favor of the florida schools again?
I'm a HUGE FSU fan, and this video shows everything I hoped it would
Same here.
@themailman43 93, 99, 13 sums it up.
what's wrong ? you don't know how to google ?
Love that!!!
Who’s here after Miami absolutely embarrassed FSU 52-10
Me
Me
15 straight top fives is insane.
14..1987 to 2000.
As a nole fan thank u for being honest. But will b back
itstray yy couldn’t recover from the face-off against Nama
Right we will b back
Not with Taggart
We will be back soon!!!
Time for The U to start whooping FSU's ass on the regular again.
GOAT Bobby Bowden was the 1st to put the love of Sports in my life.
I met my wife in 13'
My team won the NATTY in 13'
I had a very successful year in 13'
I was happy in 13'
6 years... so many good things can deteriorate in just 6 years
Love.. peace... happiness to all
Back to you too. I hope you continue to be happy
Me2
@Trump 2020 Such a shame. I looked forward to the 2nd Tuesday of every July from 2006-2013 to get the new EA Sports NCAA football game. Maybe they can resurrect it with deals for the players to get in on the money.
“Willie is slowly turning this around” lmaooo
This guy has to be trolling. He just wants them to #keepwillieforever
Im going to call it lie it is. A black coach on the short list. Fire him and see where the recruiting ends up. Jimbo fisher screwed the program and these suckers were quiet.
Anthony Hilton who would you hire?
WatchMeDoItWithNoLegs Mike Leach
Marshalisepic lll #WillieIsFreed
U should do downfall of Nebraska
@Jae Griff ik, but it's been a rough 18 years
Now this would be a good video. Way more layers to that. FSU isn’t in a downfall lol
GBR
worshipthebagel mike Riley was a disgrace to the program
i want to see a downfall of michigan
I think the logo change cursed the program
We went 13-0 and went to the playoffs with that logo the 1st year wit it
No new logo
@@minty2857 Why does everyone hate the new logo, I really like it tbh
Worst logo change ever. I never got used to it
Yes, I will look for tee shirts with the old logo or with just FSU because I don't like the new one.
Thank you so much for the candor with this.
It was so clear that Jimbo just stopped coaching and recruiting his last 2 seasons. Taggart has his work cut out for him but they’ll be back.
As a cane fan sign Willie to a extension with a pay raise 👍😉
As a canes fan we have our own problems dude . We havnt been good good since Coker
😂😂
@@robertbogert8257 you speak straight facts and you can really say since Butch Davis (regarding coaches and players). After he left and his last players (Sean Taylor's class) left, the struggle started.
We liked Al Golden. Wish you had kept him.
When was the last time Miami won a BCS-tier bowl game?
Those 90s and early 2000s FsU teams was absolutely fire
FSU wasn't nearly as in the 2000s, unless you're only counting 2000. 2003 maybe.
Downfalls of Tennessee,Texas, Oklahoma State, Oregon State, UCLA, Auburn,Ole miss, Michigan State.
marcus hardy Michigan st has not had a downfall, they had badddd injuries last year, Texas is literally is a top 10 team lol and Oklahoma st has always been average
marcus hardy yes please do Oklahoma state!!
Texas is rising wym
@@Ethan-zm9dw have Texas been able to win a BIg (XII)12 Championship besides beating Oklahoma last year. That little "We Rising speech" is Completely irrelevant They don't even have the Best Defense in the Country
Texas is good now
This was really well done! Thanks for creating it. When FSU played Bama in 2017, everyone wanted a slugfest but they were already struggling with the aftermath of Jimbo's lax ways in his last few moments with the program. I've kept a closer eye on them since then and it's been a rough road. I always appreciate a good history so once again I commend you on taking the time on this.
I thought the 'Noles would be a powerhouse for years to come under Jimbo. But it just was so unexpected to see how they fell off.
Finally someone who really knows the situation. We can’t keep blaming Taggart for Jimbos mess
If army beats Michigan and goes 13-0 you should do the rise of army football
Don't think Army will ever replicate their success of their 2018 season, especially after barely beating possibly the worst team in CFB.
When*
Sorry bro but this loss to Boise St ain’t Jimbos fault.
I hv Noles going 7-5 ...
Jimbo left a sinking ship he built.
Not even close.
@@macII2 Jimbo would have beaten Boise State at home.
Of course not, we just needed to hydrate earlier in the week.
The loss to Jacksonville State this past weekend.
Nice job, buddy! My friend is a Noles fan. I'mma get this over to him to sulk over lol. Also- Bro...your mic/voiceover...TOP NOTCH STUFF! I'm envious!
The Downfall of Colorado Buffaloes Football
Fluky Championship + Sexist Coach = Karma.
Colorado Football has had a large downfall after the 2016 PAC-12 championship against Washington
@@matthewdaley746 Well said
That's a 20 year process.
Chandler Tingle: They were only a top team a few short periods in their history, but where they are now is where they have been the majority of their history.
A year and a half later and still...pain.
"hope things work out for Willie". man, that didn't age well...
*Rest In Peace Bobby Bowden (1929-2021)*
Excellent vid! I'm a FSU alumn and it's been hard to swallow. You should do one of the Canes as well.
I have two graduate degrees from FSU. FSU is not the team I pull for most -- that would be the school I got my bachelor's from -- but I still would like to see FSU do well, and more importantly, do it the right way. So if the current struggles come from "when he let Jameis Winston do whatever he wanted", that is fitting. Winning a Heisman Trophy and a national championship does not make up for what Winston did, to say nothing of what he was plausibly accused of having done. Florida State should not want him to represent them, yet that is exactly what FSU chose. If the consequence of this is that the football program is in the toilet for a decade, it is a consequence well earned.
That said, nothing in Taggart's record before coming to Tallahassee made me think he was a sure thing. He had a so-so record at smaller schools, then coached one year at Oregon; but if a coach is a good fit for Oregon, he simply cannot be a good fit for a team that plays Clemson, Florida, and Miami every year -- the competition, the culture, and the expectations are just too different. On top of that, if Taggart has not already lost the confidence of his team, and made them lose confidence in himself, he is on the verge of it, and the expectation of losing can quickly become a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's a shame, too, since he seems to be making an attempt to demand character.
We'll see soon how Texas A&M's expensive gamble on Jimbo works out.
Willie Taggart gets a lot of hate for bouncing on Oregon, so now he’s judged extra hard for what he did when he left the Ducks program.
And rightfully so!
You had me at blaming Willie Taggart lol. Glad you're informed and did some research instead of regurgitating garbage by other outlets and sites. Jimbo is the reason FSU is in the position they're in, not Taggart. Taggart has turned around EVERY SINGLE program he's been at. Give him three years to get this thing back on track.
What the hell are you smoking? He has NOT turned around "every single program" he's been at.
3 years at Western Kentucky 16-20
4 years at South Florida 24-25
1 year at Oregon 7-5
2 years at Florida State 8-11
Taggart has been to 1 bowl game in all those seasons as well. It was a loss to Western Kentucky 45-35
*Willie Taggart WILL be fired from his position as head coach of FSU. He's not the coach to run this program, nor was he ever the right move to be hired in the first place.*
Rich John ouch! Seems to me like FSU went after Taggart because no one with a solid track record wanted the gig.....
I'm a life long Gator fan. I have a hard time saying good things about the Noles. But after the blow out last year, I realized that I would rather have FSU be good so the annual game against them will be good. Last year was boring. Also, when it comes to National Championship games, if the Gators aren't in it, I want to root for either an SEC team or a Florida team. I want FSU to get back to their glory. The Bowden v Spurrier days will never come back but I think it will be good again. Great video.
As a die hard nole fan you hit the nail on the head! A lot of fans expected too much from Taggart on his first season well made video
As someone who grew up in Tallahassee in the 80s and remembers all, and I mean all the 80s teams at FSU, the downfall of the football program actually starts in the mid 90s when Bobby started filling his roster with nothing but 4 and 5 star players. The program under Bobby was built on walk on's with a chip on your shoulder mentality that gave the team an edge and hunger. When the team was filled with superstar players that mentality went away and over the next ten years as Bobby and his staff got older. The team became more and more entitled to the point that in Bobby's last two seasons it was common for some starters to refuse to even practice. When Jimbo became the head coach the culture really didn't change much with the exception the players practiced because Jimbo let them get away with far more away from the team than Bobby ever would. When Jimbo's wife cheated on him with former Florida Gator and Tallahassee resident Taylor Jacobs who was her personal trainer in 2013 -14 and another 20 something young man it was reported around town that Jimbo was already looking for a new school to coach once the divorce was finalized. And that's basically what happened. Jimbo didn't care what was going on behind the scenes of a program that he had already mentally checked out of the year prior. As far Taggert goes, good luck.
As an FSU fan, thank you. You explained everything better than anyone could. Jimbo left this team a complete mess and I believe if Taggart can hold players accountable on and off the field, FSU could be back. Maybe not necessarily this year, but in the near future.
@American Nationalist It seems more like you care that he's black, since you're the one who brought it up in the first place.
YOU CALLED IT
It all starts in Jacksonville! I will be there supporting THE NOLES!!!!!
Me too, homie!!
That won’t be a neutral site game with the game being in Florida.
Joe Balls me too
I love watching these videos about how teams fell apart because I see now in 2023 how the game has changed so much. From teams like FSU who seemingly fell off, have now risen up, or are in the process of rising back up.
Great Vid man!!! I'm so happy you actually looked at the Jimbo Fisher era objectively.
Whose here after Willie got fired!!!
What a disaster. Why on earth did they hire him? He was NOT yet proven fully.
I agree no bias at all. Great job on the video and research. You can come hang out with me during our tailgate fsu vs. uf
I grew up in Tallahassee, my father was the Principal at Leon High School there in Tally.I remember coach Pete and got to meet Bobby. I was there at the game the first time Chief Osceola planted the spear at midfield, Wally Woodham, Jimmy Jordan , from Leon HS, lot of history there, WE WILL BE BACK !
Godby High School represent
@@zacharyhamman5782 Even though my father was the Principal at Lhs I went to Godby.
ucf fan, former fs fan, i remember their years in the early 2010's, i started routing for ucf in 2017 (btw what were we doing vs pitt) anyways i still route for florida state even if they are really bad, i would like to see them be better, its sad to see teams you like go down an seemingly inescapable rabbit hole.
“This team hit rock bottom” *looks at the 2020 season so far*
Do the rise of Syracuse Football (i may be a bit biased) but they went from 3-9 to going 10-3 and a win over West Virginia in the Camping World Bowl
As a Nebraska fan as much as I distained FSU in the 90’s I really miss those games now
I’ve always been a great fsu fan since 2013, and it’s sad for the downfall. Miss 2014 years so much, life is harder now
Who's here after ULM game?? How many excuses now?? Are we still blaming Jimbo?? Willie Taggart is the worst thing that's ever happened to our program.
I knew Taggart was an awful coach very early on. Honestly after the Virginia Tech game, I knew we had Fd up on a major scale. It's so obvious. And then you got guys like this making excuses for Taggart. It was nothing but excuses the whole time he was here! Man I'm so glad it's over now. Now Taggart can go ruin FAU. I despise Willie Taggart for what he did to our program.
That 1993 NC was the Bobby Bowden life time achievement award.
Matt A: No doubt, remember in 1989 Miami lost a game but beat Notre Dame in the head to head that year and was awarded the NC. Four years later the media acted like the head to head didn’t matter.
@Matt A ND lost to Boston College AT HOME. They did not deserve the title and FSU was clearly the class of the NCAA. Penn Staters argue the same BS for '94 and Osborne.
@@IrishOhionan Who did Miami lose to that year? :)
TennesseeGentleman a mediocre FSU that lost to Clemson and Southern Miss that year.
@@IrishOhionan A "mediocre" team that beat the NC by two scores and the game was never close. Maybe not so mediocre. Oh, and beat hell out of a very good Nebraska team in the Fiesta.
TY, you hit the nail on the head Jimbutt screwed us, big time. I hope Taggart does well, now we have more Coaching exp. that is more akin to our style of football.
Good video. Appreciate the honest take especially since you are an admitted Gator :) Our current situation reminds me of how Urban left you guys and the time it took to get things turned around. Here's to a return to an exciting rivalry sometime soon!
I remember you were going to do this video. Great video keep up the great work!!!
Thanks Cutter! Always appreciate it!
Cole Adams once again you deserve it!!!
Insightful video. Good job @Cole Adams. I don't think Taggart is the guy for FSU, but that's not my problem. #canesfan
Will never forget going to that championship game. Team was legendary
My hometown is an hour north of Tallahassee and I kinda got to see this first hand, hate the way it happened, but I have faith Mile Norvell can get them back to relevance.
Oof, fast forward a few months when willie blames the trainers for not hydrating players lol
You should do a video on Dan Mullen and how he came back to Florida and fixed them.
One good year don't mean he fixed us yet💯 he's gonna get us to the promise land
Lifelong Nole fan here, excellent synopsis of the greatness, reasons for downfall and future outlook. Fairly accurate assessment!
Cole what is the name of that jazz song that goes with the story?
this is what happens when you research into what happened to FSU, so easy to blame the new guy for all the problems before. Digging even deeper into why Jimbo was the cause of this, after 2013, the coaching staff switched their strategy with recruiting. From leaders to, NFL talent, now this does go hand in hand sometimes but he picked up a lot of locker room cancers that did not lead the team. Francois was not the leader Winston was, and Blackman was luckily saved since he was humbled by a tough first season and his coach giving upon him. Yes, Willie made mistakes but he’s had one year he needs more time.
edit: Willie DOESNT turn it around and seems to make zero progress and gets fired.
Hornibrook’s 26-6 record is mostly due to a stout defense and amazing run game. He is not that great of a quarterback. W/L record does not define a quarterback.
This is coming from a Wisconsin fan.
He’s really not a good qb at all. Without Wisconsin’s run game he’d be terrible
FSU doesn't need a great QB. We just need a decent QB that doesn't turn the ball over 3 times a game.
Yep. This Wisconsin fan was going to say the same thing.
Thank u fam. A real Football fan thats also a gator fan mad respect
You're spitting truth and as a true Noles fan it really stings me that this is the reality of Florida State football. I find it interesting that you made no mention of the Jameis Winston's rape allegation,. I heard a theory that Jimbo "salted the soil" intentionally because of that incident being that the school covered everything up and it absolutely rocked Jimbo to his core, which, I don't believe myself but it's definitely something to ponder.
ngl i cried when the noles lost to gators last year i miss 2014 😭
Nick Bloomston me and my old man were at that game and we were so hammered that we can’t remember the first half, other than it was raining the whole time, and all we remember is getting clobbered in the second half 😢😢
Who’s here after the Memphis head coach just joined FSU?
Mark Kang Im ready to run through a wall after that press conference.
Mark Kang I don’t think it changes much at least for a few years, FSU will still suck
Daniel Douenias of course, it’s a complete rebuild.
As a diehard Gator fan since the age of 4 in 1992, I kinda almost feel bad for Fswho. I honestly liked when they were good it made the rivalry better. Jimblo really screwed them legit, left them high and dry I was shocked they hired Taggert. Now it's not looking like Mike is the HC they needed either. I'm sure eventually they will be back but it's not looking good right now.
I love these videos! It’s refreshing to get an unbiased take on these programs. Seems like you know what you’re talking about too. Keep up the great work.
Cant eait to see dumpster fire part 2 in 2019. Lets see how Jimbo does at A&M.
A&M program is trending up & in great hands with Jimbo but ur schedule is toughest in the nation not complaining but u play Clemson, Bama , Auburn who by the way came from behind wit a true freshman to beat #10 Oregon & I aint finished at Georgia & LSU ..shit even Clemson & Bama might not win all those gms
@@Hollywood-up6gq lol ATM sucks. You're paying him $75 million to win 9-10 games a year. LMFAO
Felix Lopez A&M will never win anything
@@encycl07pedia- ok who's ur college team ? Unless ur Clem or Bama u winning shit either
@@dyltack5349 you too big mouth who u roll wit
Anyone else notice the Ghost face in the upper right-hand corner @ 9:56? Oohhh lawdy...
Aw shit i see it boi
Yes I see it man that is freaking creepy!
Been a diehard Noles fan since the early 80’s , sad to see where they are now.
The supporters and program deserves better
Things are looking GREAT right now
Great video from a gators fan when the video started and you said you were a gators fan I was like here we go again but you actually surprised me and it was actually a really good video
I'm a die hard Noles fan. And I don't diminish what Jimbo left us with. But taking that into account, you can't just overlook how Willie had us looking last year. It was clear to analysts and ex coaches and people with high football IQ that out team looked poorly coached. I'm not so optimistic, I am concerned and don't have that much faith in Taggart . I hope I'm wrong.
John Wick a fan with guts and true assessment
@@omarguajardo05 I catch hell for my beliefs. From my own fan base. But I'm just living in reality. All the Jimbo stuff aside, Willie looked like a really bad coach last year.
Now they really see. All those excuses, all this bullshit blaming Jimbo. Willie Taggart is God awful. Worst coach in the ACC. And one of the worst in the country. And finally these excuse makers are starting to see! Willie Taggart is the worst thing that's ever happened to our program.
Do the rise of Clemson and also the downfall of Oregon and Nebraska
You gotta do a Miami one too. UF is gonna own this state for a long time 🐊.
I must say, after having this video recommended to me multiple times I finally decided to watch figuring it would be someone hating on FSU having no knowledge of what truly transpired. But I must say you were spot-on with your observation of everything! Great video
Jimbo started to fall apart at FSU after his wife started cheating on him lol
you are absolutely right.
Joyce Epps do a lot of people even know about that or was it mostly a Tallahassee known thing? Because literally everyone here knew about it. My friends dad worked out with the guy who she cheated (who was telling everyone) so it spread like wildfire
Yea an ex Florida player was entertaining himself.
Now 3 chokes in a row. Sure it's Jimbo's fault to a large extent. But the defensive coordinator has to go - Barnett won't last the season and he shouldn't.
I have loved florida state since I was a baby my dad got into florida state when he was a teenager. I still love florida state to this day
Great video 🔥. I’m subscribing. Keep up the great work love your channel
Thanks for taking Willie off of our hands 😂
Poor willie got left with a dumpster fire 😭
We’re both gonna get back to the top Go Canes
Oh dam a cans fan who's not a Dick? Lmao 🤣but nah hopefully we both do. college football's better when we're both on top
Jimbo should've got raked over the coals for what he did. He should've had to pay back his and his staffs entire 2017 salary for dereliction of duty. They flat out quit recruiting
itstray yy plus we both gotta be beating Florida again
@@adamnir6791 if u got a good run D you'll beat Florida they're not that complicated but it's a lot easier said than done obviously 🤣😔
Podcast i heard with a prominent GA highschool coach that had 5 commits to FSU including his own son sId that Jimbo and staff never contacted them after September of that season.... we lost all but 1 of those! Jimbo should have to pay back half or that years salary along with assistant coaches as well
Was Highly skeptical as a Nole fan but you provided an excellent video with no bias . Definitely gained a subscriber.
Thank you for makeing this I was waiting for it didn’t disappoint
LOL! You skipped right past the "former" AD's role in all of this.
True that. Stan Wilcox brought him in but if you call this a "diversity hire" (which it is) then you are racist.
I need a follow up video to this, Taggart has been fired and he and his coaching staff have produced, by far the most undisciplined and cantankerous team with absolutely no true fight in them.
Signed,
Suffering Noles fan
I cannot believe your folks hired him. I mean, Miles was available, and he would've been 10x safer than Taggart! Not to mention a couple of other great candidates.
@@thunderbird1921 it was willful ignorance on multiple accounts my G. I was skeptical aaf and not even the least optimistic based on his track record alone 🤦🏽♂️
You produced a good video. Your quality shines through and woke me up. I thought, because of ESPN, CBS, ABC,.....ad nauseum that all sports commentary HAD TO BE BAD. I was so dumbed down by 'that stuff' on radio and TV that I had come to believe, 'If it is sports talk, it will be so stupid only those with sub 70 IQ will find it interesting.' You have shattered that belief. TU.
FSU was fun to watch back in the day. Tamarick Vanover. Always remember him for some reason.
Florida State Diehard fan baby
59-20
That is the Seminoles' legacy.
63-20
Trevor Kinney
If you're referring to the 1996 Fiesta Bowl, the actual score was 62-24, which, if you do the math, is a 38 point defeat. 59-20 is a 39 point defeat to a team that didn't even win the national title that year, unlike Nebraska with Florida. Secondly, I don't really care about FSU or UF considering I'm a Kansas Jayhawks fan, so not only is your point wrong and irrelevant, but also misplaced. God, you're pathetic.
@@treymagathan847 it's hilarious how you try to be snarky and call me pathetic there, but I wasn't talking about any of those games. I was completely correct with what I was talking about. And a Kansas football fan has not room to call anyone pathetic btw lmao
Trevor Kinney
Ah, I see you're referring to FSU's 63-20 defeat at the hands of Louisville. Like I said, I don't care about the ACC, being a Jayhawks fan. Too many times, I see pathetic people who take my casual shitpost to heart and try to act like I'm a fan of their rival using a false equivalence to somehow justify their bad doing. I apologize for the mistake. As for KU, they did win the Orange Bowl, a BCS bid, in 2008 over Virginia Tech, ironically enough, an ACC team. Unlike our perceived superior neighbors, Kansas State, who may have gone to several BCS Bowl Bids this century, but have never won one. In fact, they've gotten their asses blown out of their cavity every single time. It's perspective that a lot of people don't know or undervalue about the program. I personally believe that if the Jayhawks moved out of the Big 12 and played in a less prestigious conference, say the MAC, they'd be annual bowl bids. It's just that the Big 12 is too strong of a conference to healthily compete in, especially when the conference got relegated to 10 teams.
@@treymagathan847 yeah, typically when I team is god awful, moving to a smaller and worse conference helps them to win.
Jeez it’s just been a few years big teams like these don’t take long to bounce back
2 Yrs later and I'm very depressed as an FSU fan. Even so i still want to play for them out of highschool.
Oh, they’re back my friend
@@eduardo8652 yessirrrr