How ESPN Ruined College Football
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2022
- We discuss college football realignment and how it all traces back to ESPN.
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Guess it's time to start watching MAC football. They seem to be the only conference that have stuck to what a conference should be. An association of schools in a similar region with similar levels of on-field talent. How often does someone win the MAC twice in a row?
You can watch the MAC football…I’ll watch usc vs Ohio state lmao
I love the MAC since I was a kid because most of the D1 kids from my region was going to the MAC schools. Toledo, N.ILL, Western Michigan, Ball St, MIA(OH) and Central Michigan to name a few. And I have played at N.ILL when I was in Pop Warner for championships
I still wish NIU could have ran the table in 2003 and blew up the BCS.
The MAC champion should play the PAC-12 champion every year in the Rose Bowl.
MACTION Baby!
I remember back in 2007 Michigan playing their hearts out in the Citrus Bowl for Lloyd Care’s last game. A lot of those players were NFL prospects. It was the “Citrus Bowl” players are now sitting out of legendary bowl games such as the sugar, fiesta, rose, and orange. The pageantry and tradition of college football is gone. And that saddens me. The NFL’s Divisions now have more tradition and pageantry now because they try to keep rivals in the same division. USC playing Rutgers for a conference game is beyond stupid.
The only time I ever watch college football, is to watch a Hot shot Nfl prospect like Trevor Lawrence. College football is a bunch of players nobody had heard of, who won't be playing on the team next year. NFL IS MUCH BETTER!!!
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 tbh your right. And the way things are going. Commanders vs Cowboys; Eagles vs Giants will have more of traditional sports rivalry due to all of the conference realignment. Miss the olds days of Oklahoma vs Nebraska; Texas vs Texas A&M
It doesn’t help
Shit like the chick-fila peach bowl.
Get sponsorships out of bowl games
It’s very true. I remember the good old days when players played the game just because they loved the game. That was it. The quality of the sport was so much better then.
@Chase Meë Precisely. It all started with the playoff. That’s what was the beginning of the end for CFB
As a life long West Virginia University fan I about died inside when the BACKYARD BRAWL Game against PITT UNIVERSITY was ended. WTF best rivalry we had...
I agree. I'm not a Pitt or WV fan but as a NCAAF fan when the re-alignment started about a decade ago, I thought this is bad for the game. Backyard brawl, Mizzou/Kansas, Texas/Texas A&M were special rivalries for the fans. College football rivalries are unmatched. They are all great. Does not matter the record or national implication. You just wanted to beat your rival. And everyone had an archrival and then maybe a couple other small rivalries. I hate that Michigan and Notre Dame don't play each other every year. Now so many more are going to be broken up because of this Big 10/SEC mega conference crap.
All I know is, even if us and FSU go to different conferences, they better keep our annual game going.
@@pnut3844able Miami was part of the group that started this when they bolted the Big East for the ACC in 2003.
I'm old enough to remember Pitt, Penn State, WV, Syracuse, as independents who played each other. They all went their separate ways.
@@slimphotog And Virginia Tech. Can't forget that game.
Absolutely agree with this. I'm an old-time college football fan (literally--I'm 62 and I've been bleeding Razorback red since I was a 9-yo selling Cokes at The Game of the Century in 1969) and it saddens me to watch the destruction of college football happening right in front of my eyes. I quit watching pro football years ago and now it seems like I might just quit college football--even my Razorbacks--within a few short years. Sad.
I feel sorry for you
It's become increasingly rigged and pointless.
I'm in the same boat. I quit watching pro football and all other pro sports years ago. I used to love spending my Saturdays watching college football. Now I am down to just rooting for my alma mater (K-State). Sad to see greed ruining my favorite sport. This was a good video.
@@bryanjones8778 EMAW. F the Sec Big 10 and TV networks
Same as you. I don't watch pro football. I don't watch the same 4 teams play for a national championship . I stopped after they placed Ohio State over Baylor.
What's not being discussed is how all the non-football sports like volleyball and tennis and baseball going to handle the cross-country intra-week travel from California to Ohio? Is it going to be a true move or just for football because the logistics seem daunting, inefficient and costly.
Thats why usc/ucla made the move …more money for their other sports programs…that additional 100 mil will cover those cost..that money isnt just going to the football program but its mainly coming in because of the football/ basketball programs
@@keepthisonthelow1430 That's what they say, but look at Temple. It was long known for its basketball program, which has a long and proud tradition. Then, it started to fall on hard times, and they decided to pump up the football team. They even got to host a national primetime game and College Gameday came to Philadelphia. What people outside of the Cherry and White _didn't_ see was that Temple canceled _nine_ sports in order to make more room in the budget for football. And the university wanted to get $100MM in city money to build a stadium close to campus instead of staying in Lincoln Financial because there's nowhere in North Philadelphia to put a football stadium. (They didn't get it.) Oh, and they tore down the practice track to make room for a rec center. So, how is this going to work for those other sports in the super conference, really?
Volleyball will take some time to work out. They do play some invitationals around the country but it's not many. B1G plays 20 conference matches. I don't see them increasing it so 10 home and 10 away matches.
Baseball/softball plays a 3 game series and 1/3 of the schedule is non-conference and invitationals some of them around the country. For USC/UCLA and other schools maybe instead of playing in invitationals around the country they stay local for non-conference. At a 24 game conference schedule that's only 4 road game series and 4 home. It's not a lot like some think.
Tennis mostly plays too invitationals for non-conference some around the country. B1G plays in conference 9 times for men and 11 for women's. Increasing each sport by 1 means going on the road 5 and 6 times. That's not terrible. Again, maybe instead of playing national invitationals around the country they stay local.
Basketball will also take some time to figure out a schedule that works for everyone. But again it's only 10 road games maybe an extended break for when teams come to LA and when the LA teams return from a 4-5 game road series.
Swim meets were just weird, some teams only played 3, 4, or 5 conference meets. Some played more national meets. Some had 0 conference meets. They obviously all finally met together in the B1G prelims and finals to determine who would get an NCAA tournament bid. I don't know what to make of that sport.
Golf was another weird one as teams typically spend a lot of time at national invitationals until the B1G championships.
Cross Country was bizarre. The entire schedule consists of invitationals all within the B1G footprint but not every school competed in the same ones. Half the B1G teams competed at the Joe Pianne Invitational held at Notre Dame. Not every school competed in the same number of invitationals it ranged from 3 to 6 before the B1G championships. So I wonder if USC/UCLA will be allowed to just compete in local invitationals before the B1G championships.
Men's & women's Indoor/outdoor track and field all compete together at the same invitationals and just like cross country they all wildly varied in the number of invitationals and rarely all competed in the same ones. Indiana held 4 different invitationals on its campus, Nebraska held 6 on its own campus and travelled to K-State, ISU, Pittsburgh State and Arkansas for the rest of its invitationals. Minnesota had a wild schedule they traveled to Los Angeles 3x, Orlando, Raleigh 2x, Tempe, Knoxville, Baton Rouge and competed in state at home 5x and Iowa 2x (is Minnesota a powerhouse T&F school?).I think USC/UCLA will be fine competing in regional invitationals for this sport until the B1G championships.
With money. That’s how.
@@SuperTripleO Well sure they will have the money to expense the travel, but if you are a volleyball player do you really want to travel from LA to New Jersey on a Tuesday night to play Rutgers because being in the Big 10 earns the conference more money? Also I highly doubt the other Pac 12 members are going to take much sympathy on you and schedule you in the future for OOC games. The entire thing is ridiculous.
great video
as a diehard Michigan fan as well as a diehard CFB fan, it's sad to see all the major changes that the sport has taken in recent years. the playoff and possible expansion of the playoff, NIL, portal, bowl game opt-outs, conference re-alignment and the erosion of rivalries have all devalued and removed the luster of the game I and so many other people loved
the way it's going, I don't even know if I'll be a fan in 10-15 years. it's changing WAAAYYYYY too much, too fast, and not positively either
In 20 years whats starting now will be the new tradition for the next generation and for the current fans who arent really bothered by the move….most ppl want to see the better players more often than not play against the other elite competition
We needed a playoff, and an expanded one. The BCS system SUCKED.
It does, however, need to be based on stats, not opinions.
@@pnut3844able if they picked the top 4 teams in the BCS and put them in a playoff, that'd be a big step up IMO
I'm also a michigan fan, and I couldn't agree more! You said it perfectly.
The one group that made college football so fun has ended up being the ones that ruined it. Not even college gameday is good anymore it’s all corporate now. College gameday used to be about the fans now it’s just for sponsors and I honestly don’t see it lasting much longer. It’s sad the direction college football is headed.
I used to be the biggest college football fan around. I even made it my mission to see all 130 FBS teams live and in-person, and after 37 years of trying, I accomplished that in November 2017. But by 2019 it was obvious the sport was changing, and not in a good way, and now I have little interest in college football. It’s feels so corporatey now. The soul of the game is fading away.
What was the soul of the game? Not trolling, seriously asking ?
@@keepthisonthelow1430 watch the video. Regional rivalries.
I feel the same I have quit great jobs because they tried to make work on Saturdays during football season but the last 3 or 4 years I have watched a total of 10 games this makes me so sad I miss the old CFB
@@leftwingersareweak in 15 yrs they wont matter for the new generation watching nor the players playing
@@keepthisonthelow1430 Players staying with a school because they took pride in the school. Players playing for their teammates, their brothers, instead of skipping bowls to prep for the combine. Coaches and assistants having the chance to develop young teens into young men instead of being fired after 3 years because 8-4 became disappointing season. Gameday being affordable enough for average fans to take their families to the games. And the games having a flow to them instead stopping the clock constantly due to 50 passes a game per team, tv timeouts, 60 and 30 second timeouts, and officials' reviews. It's become painful to watch live. I understand why the changes have come about, but I think the game, passion, connection, and fan experience from about 2017 has suffered in comparison to CFB of 50 years that preceded it.
The problem everyone involved is ignoring, is what happens when these consistently winning schools in these weaker conferences go to better conferences and struggle and don’t win as much. Will those fans stick around if their programs don’t get a single winning record after 5 years? I don’t think so.
You’ll end up back where you started.
Very good point
Your description is the definition of a bandwagoner, not a "fan"! Which is an abbreviation of fanatic... (definition) "a person with extreme and uncritical enthusiasm". The origin of the word was describing religious people. How likely is it that the hard core religious people you know (if any) will change their religion? Remember... "uncritical enthusiasm". All in all, no real fan would do what you described.
Not just that but 2/3 of schools with their fans will be left out.
Like Nebraska?
Who says the Pac 8/10/12/20 will want them back?
The fact that there is not a Commissioner to help create conference stability & accountability, allows these schools to go into business for themselves. The deterioration of CFB started in the late 90's with the BCS and Conference "free agency" has lead to the death of rivalries over the last 10-15 years.
This guy gets it. The NCAA’s lack of leadership allowed this to happen.
@@jondukes7025 and it’s for the better. I hope CFB has only a few big conferences so there are more good vs good games, instead of Alabama vs Mercer.
@@austinhowser7838 it sounds like SEC vs SEC to me but hopefully that won’t be the outcome with conferences shifting
I knew things were going wrong when I heard MSU-Notre Dame wouldn't happen for 9 years. NINE. We've been rivals for 125 years, now we'll only see them once a decade or so, it's ridiculous.
So well stated! If they're wanting something similar to the NFL... just watch the NFL.
It's exactly why I watch the NFL almost exclusively. At least they haven't been lying for the past 40 years about where the money is going, unlike the NCAA.
This aged better than anyone could have ever anticipated.
Sadly, yes it did.
I haven’t watched College football since the Big 10 and SEC pilfered the Big 12 the first time. It flat-out killed the annual Border War game between KU and MU. Even if both schools were having off years you could always look forward to rivalry games. But mean little to the House of Rat. They need more money to cover the cost of the bombs they’ve bee trying to pass off as movies the past few years, your fan traditions be damned.
I have heard that The schools who left the Big 12 over the past decade Nebraska Colorado Tex A+M and Missouri left because Texas L H had too much power money wise.
Killing what is special about the sport doesn’t seem like a great long term strategy.
cityassembled647 in the past year witnessed the destruction of the PAC 12 conference
Remember the days of getting up new years day and watching bowl games all day on off air tv? Now there is no reason to do so unless you are into info commercials!
New Year's Day bowl games were a great American tradition. Now up in smoke.
100% agree. I appreciate the fact that people like you are calling this out. If CFB turns into a super league I will not continue watching it.
Your one tv will not hurt football in America. Why would I want to watch schools like Washington State or Wake Forest? The have nots will always be no names
@@kingengine5852 This mega conference BS is NOT good for the game as the narrator said. The point of conferences is to divide teams up best you can and PLAY everyone. How can you play everyone when the conferences are this big? You cannot, so now they are going to be even bigger? Stop it!
@@kingengine5852 But it won't be one TV set. It will be millions of them, eventually, as more and more folks tune out and there's less interest from the young people coming up, who would be future fans.
@@bryanjones8778 young ppl will keep watching because young ppl will still be the ones playing the game….they wont go to watching the less popular sports…ppl said the same thing before the bcs was implemented and then before the cfp was implemented yet the tv revenue kept going up somehow because thats what the majority of ppl want…they want the better schools more often than not to play each other
@@kingengine5852 it won't be just one TV, it'll be MILLIONS. Leaving out 2/3 of the teams along with their fans will severly backfire. Also, many people who are fans of teams that will make it have also said they won't watch it anymore. 2 super conferences will cause the sport to die, I'll bet anything on it.
College football now is like an episode of storage wars. The schools are the main characters and the players are the units. It’s about which person can get the highest money value out of a unit. Not about true value of what you would find.
College football is really the only sport I watch anymore, and with all the recent changes I find myself rapidly losing interest. What shocks me is how many college football fans are actually leaning so hard into the changes that will ultimately destroy the sport - with some saying they want college football to be *more* like the NFL. That's a hard no from me.
It looks like I'll have a lot more free time on my hands in upcoming autumns.
Ditto.
Losing interest how All big teams will be playing big teams we will have top 10 games every week it is a dream come true
I loved college football and continued to watch specifically because it WASN'T the NFL. The NFL is stale and so corporatized, there's no interest. Free agency and playing for pay make the NFL a business, but college football was still a sport where loyalty and traditions meant something. But... not anymore. It's just NFL-lite with university logos on the helmets. I hate it.
Agree with almost everything in this video. As a lifelong, diehard college football fan (went to Nebraska way back when), the wholesale changes in the CFB landscape have slowly whittled away at my interest in the game. The closer CFB becomes to NFL-lite, the less appealing it becomes. Ultimately, my opinion doesn’t matter - I realize that - but I can’t believe that I’m alone in my thoughts about the game. I liked the rivalries, the traditions, and the bowl games (despite the controversies, every Jan 1 fans across the country were treated to an orgy of exciting and consequential games culminating in the end of the season). All of those have slowly been eroded. The direction we’re heading is to simply pit one monetary juggernaut against another - which school can hire the best talent with NIL money and spend the most on coaches with bloated TV revenues. I’m not saying this as one that looks at the past through rose colored glasses, but one who sees the future as so distant from the game I grew up loving that I’m about to reach a tipping point where CFB no longer matters. Sad.
You said it. Tradition. Rutgers vs. USC? Who cares? They have no rivalry. Even OSU vs. USC only means something to me if it's in the Rose Bowl on Jan. 1. Otherwise I could give a shit.
I agree as Wisconsin fan, the older styles of doing things for them does not seem to work out as well for the team and then the school has to resort to the shady ways other schools basically cheat players through the classes and the system just to have NFL talent at the NCAA level. By this I mean having to do what an Ohio State does or what University of Miami used to do.
good points but being a Nebraska fan probably also whittled away your interest in the game big time as well lol
Absolutely agree. Jan 1st was my favorite holiday growing up because the orgy 😬. Michigan nd usually kicked off the year for me but they don’t play anymore. The more corporate it becomes the worse it gets.
I completely agree with you.
I struggle to take serious any sport where a committee sits down and decides who the best teams are and who gets to play for the championship games. Either establish a "knock-out" cup competition, or establish a proper league system with promotion and relegation. Until you do one or the other, or even both, the sport will just continue to have little relevance.
ESPN has done a lot of damage. To the NBA and NFL also. It's why I canceled ESPN 2 years now and haven't looked back. B.S. storylines instead of the actual games is what they're selling. The good news is they are starting to lose money because fans are rejecting them.
I hated when espn purchased the majority of the bowl games i remember as a kid watching bowl games on raycom and jp networks and nbc cbs abc games on new years just flicking back and forth
As far as I am concerned, college football started down this road with the BCS because they refused to consider a real playoff scenario since that would kill 75% or more of the already useless bowl games. Its all about money and ratings. For me, the regular season is the only thing worth watching with "The Game", win or lose, being the last game of value to me. If a 6 and 6 team can get a "eame your bowl here" Bowl game, what is the freaking point. This is the epitome of everyone getting a trophy scenario, but ESPN hands them out like candy even when they have a mediocre season.
I have been a passionate college football fan for over 50 years. I really dislike what the sport is evolving into. I think there are literally millions of fans who feel the same way. As the saying goes, beware of what you wish for.
When the first wave of conference realignment happened it was made geographical sense, Nebraska to the Big 10, Maryland to the Big, Texas A&M and Missouri to the SEC, even Pitt and Syracuse joining the ACC, geographically isn't far.
Now, these realignments aren't even making any sense geographically. Just a bunch of greed is all it is.
Amazing video. It captured the exact feelings I’ve been experiencing throughout this process.
Lifelong CFB fan. I'm sick of the greed, arrogance and betrayals. None of my children care anymore. I want the whole mess to implode under the weight of self-imposed stupidity.
Greed started with the schools and their tuitions, but u didnt care until blk ppl started getting paid, go cry somewhere else snowflake
ditto
I had no idea ESPN was this involved. They really are the Phantom Menace of college football.
Force Awakens*
@@goblue193 ok in some ways, yes.
But Phantom Menace as a term fits better because espn is working behind the scenes, like Palpatine was.
It kills college basketball too, because all of the decisions are made with football in mind. I went to two schools that don’t have football programs but very successful basketball programs that are conferences left to die
Yeah for example, with UCLA leaving, it’s time for Arizona to lead the way when it comes to PAC-12 basketball
Yep, and people are demanding that UNC goes to the B1G. You know what that does? That destroys the LEGENDARY UNC-DUKE Rivalry. A rivalry far better than the OSU-Michigan one.
Glad people are finally beginning to realize this. Noy only college football but many other sports as well. I don't watch any pro sports including auto racing. Hope disney and espn are gone from existence soon.
They won't be, They only generate a gazillion dollars!!! But I wish they would go under.
ESPN ruins everything it touches that’s why I don’t watch ESPN anymore
To me this may be a good thing for the smaller teams. For the past few decades it’s been the same teams winning championships. If they all go and form their own league then the remaining schools that never had a legitimate shot at a title will have their chance. That being said if a team like Norte Dame decided to stay in the old league they might win that championship every year.
And Rutgers and Vanderbilt wouldn’t go 3-9 every year because they would face opponents more suited for their strength
Nah, it will be the same thing as in recent years where an undefeated team like UCF gets forgotten and a team with a big name like alabama gets the playoff spot, despite not having a good enough record to even PLAY in the conference championship, let alone win their conference. TWICE, alabama has gone to playoffs/bcs after not even playing in the conference championship
I grew up watching the Big 8/Big 12. Truth be told, the Big 12 was once the most prominent conference in America. They had every opportunity to stay up at the top with the SEC and the Big Ten but they failed miserably by letting Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, and Texas A&M get away. Even after that debacle, they sat on their laurels when they should have been proactive. The worst enemy of the Big 12 has been the Big 12. I'm sad about where this is going too, but things have never been quite right since the Big 12 lost those teams and replaced those four teams with only two who were nowhere near the value of the four they lost at the time. The Big 12 deserves what it got sadly. I wish it was not that way but it is.
At 14 I was an Alabama fan from Baltimore……moved to Hoover Alabama, both of my children went to Alabama…..no matter what, the pride and enthusiasm has never gone away……shame on the greed though that has ruined the background and excitement……
Love the name man DTX
Do you know what punctuation is?
@@supremeleadergnkdroid3202 I hope it bothers you, because I don’t care……
You do realize that your cheatin' ass coach is a big part of the problem, right?
I feel the same way when the fans and alumni stop supporting it because of this TP and NIL. And how it just is plain wrong the way it has been done. All I can say 35 years of being a Dawg fan we got one before everything went to shit
You have an excellent sixth sense. Called it before it happened.
As ESPN loses viewers by the thousands...a house of cards shakes
It's actually millions over the past decade.
@@bryanjones8778 no it's not. That's the NFL
Yeah you just have to watch on their apps or just listen to it on the radio, oops they and fox control most of the stations . You can just go to the bar, or get UA-cam tv that is viewership that counts in their pockets to sell. The point is unless you truly stop CONSUMING the product altogether they still win .
@@HEAVYTIGER11 NBC has nearly the rest after that.
They hitched their wagon to the SEC and it shows. Less population, less education, and way less money then fans from real schools in the B10. What did they think was going to happen?
Absolutely. Losing rivalries like Oklahoma vs Nebraska hurt alot. I cant get behind it much longer. Im also a die hard UNC basketball fan and we just had the #1 recruit in the nation decomitt from us so he can reclassify to leave High School early and play this year. UNC has a full roster and could not accommodate him reclassifying so he decomitted to go elsewhere, apparently to South Carolina who is rumored to have offered him a 3 million dollar NIL deal.
We don't NEED G.G. at UNC!!! We need real young men, that honor their word! Though, I understand fully what you're saying, about the situation. *#BornBredDead** **_🇺🇸🐍🇺🇸_*
Disney ruins everything!!!
A broader way to put this is "Money ruined X", or "Money ruined everything", because it does and did. This happens to everything where it becomes a business; video-games, hobbies, amateur sports, etc. Hell even traditional sports have gotten worse and worse as they "juice" the rules to make it more "appealing" to viewers over time. 80s and 90s Baseball, Basketball, etc are so different from their modern iterations because of rule changes that gutted the old style of play. It's pretty disgusting.
As a Washington State fan, it's been really telling watching the reactions of the different PAC fandoms to this. I think besides conference administrative failures over the past decade-plus and general anger at the things you mentioned here, a lot of my animosity in this particular situation is reserved for UCLA. USC we all hate and knew they would do this. I'm surprised they didn't earlier. They and their fans have always acted like they're too good for us, so fine, go play with the big boys. But UCLA? Who hasn't been to a Rose Bowl since 1998? Who's 18-25 under Chip Kelly? Who's seen diminishing attendance for years now? At least USC you could call a blueblood, UCLA is just a failson using Daddy's money to throw its weight around. And everyone, *everyone,* is going to suffer for it, *especially* the players.
WSU fan here too. 100% agree with you. UCLA is a public school that is supposed to promote the image of its state, and it leaving for the B1G is indirectly harming Cal. It’s taking advantage of the simple fact that it has the LA tv market. What’s even more sad is seeing UofW and Oregon now trying to follow their footsteps in ditching the pac12. The centuries long history of west coast rivalry now is falling apart…
I have my problems with ESPN however, this isn't really ESPN as it is NCAA's greed. ESPN is just paying for what's offered. The NCAA are the ones who they feel is more important.
NCAA has been made irrelevant. It's all due to greedy University Presidents, the NCAA could have put a stop to this before it ever got started by standing up and showing some balls.
These moves have all but destroyed the ncaa. They are almost powerless in this scenario and will likely be removed from the equation soon.
This is more on ESPN then the NCAA. The NCAA at least provided some kind of structure and rules. What we have now is a joke.
Only time I turn on ESPN is when I want to watch my team play. That’s it, ESPN is garbage
This video deserves millions of views. Everything you said NEEDED to be said.
Could not agree with you more! I have claimed ignorance because I love college football... as it USED to be. I love the tradition and rivalries all of it. But now it is getting hard to turn a blind eye anymore.
Let’s be real… The fans incessant calls for a playoff ruined CFB.. You used to have to win every game, it was a season long playoff.. And the controversies that popped up only served to promote the product even further..
And you traded all that in to get the same 4 teams every year in a playoff.. You did that.. The fans..
Yep, I remember when early season matchups between ND and Michigan, or Miami and FSU would decide national championships. Those days are long gone.
I don’t some guy setting behind a desk pushing a pencil to decide who the best team is. Let them decide it on the field. I will say they way they determine who the 4 teams are is screwed up.
I was one of those fans calling for a playoff back in the 1980s and I admit it hasn't worked.
The 4 team playoff hasn’t worked no, but yeah the season being the playoff is better
Just shift your attention to FCS schools .... its really fun without all the Portal and NiL nonsense . Hope ESPN doesn't ruin it too.
ESPN is the worst thing to happen to college football
From a wvu fan I agree with this. I miss the old college football. I miss the old big East days!
As an Aztecs fan, this was crushing to me. I really felt that we were improving over these last few years and maybe we would have a shot at being a competitive team with the bigger schools, but with this new deal, we now will have no chance in the future to compete anymore with the bigger schools in football. At least our basketball team will still be just as competitive, but it doesn't matter that much in that sport because any team still has a chance in March. In college football, you absolutely need to be in a bigger conference to have a shot, and because of that, SDSU now has no chance of ever competing with the bigger schools.
As a WVU fan, this has been on my mind a lot lately. I hate that our school never plays games against our rivals anymore. Sure, I want them to win every game they play, but I miss the days of playing meaningful games against Pitt, VPI, etc. every year. Just not the same playing schools 800+ miles away.
I got to tell you I thought the NIL Rule change would’ve made College Football better but after what’s been going on with the playoff committee and the coach fights yeah totally ruined College Football but once 2025 hit we probably won’t have to worry about College Football with ESPN no more.
I had zero confidence that they'd be able to pull off the NIL rule correctly. I haven't watched college football in many years, but when I read that they were going to keep the top 25 rankings, and then only allow 4 teams into a playoff, I had to wonder what the fuck was the point of having both?
On the flip side as an alum of a Group of 5 university (University of Toledo) I would not be horribly upset if the NCAA allowed those group of 5 schools / conferences to break off into an FBS-AA type situation and have their own playoff system. Similar to FCS, D2 and D3 (which by the way are actually sponsored by the NCAA, the CFP is simply an invitational and the winner of that 4 team playoff is still NOT recognized by the NCAA). No one from the MAC or Sun Belt is going to even get into an expanded playoff (those extra spots are already reserved for SEC and Big 10 schools, lets not kid ourselves). So why not create a 60 team FBS-AA division so that those schools actually have something to play for? Kinda tired of the only carrot my Rockets having to play for is the Bahamas Bowl.
Scott the number of fans here in Boone NC , alums who hated the move to the Sun Belt is ridiculous. Go back to an FCS playoff and rejoin the SoCon.
Alumni loved being able to travel to nearly every opponent (Elon, Ga. Southern, etc.) and now we have the natural rivalry with ,um, Idaho?
The fact we have big coaches like Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, Jim Harbaugh and others speak against this just shows how much they really care for the sport
Nick Saban has been one of the worst things for college football. He facilitated the propagation of Sabanite coaches across the SEC. Coaches who, like him, are only concerned with their own fame and fortune. He only “stands up” for things when it hurts his competitive advantage. Saban isn’t the only one to blame for the degradation of college football, but he definitely gets a larger than average share of the credit.
Saban’s time at Alabama is literally one of the causes of this issue. His underhanded recruiting tipped the scales so much that now recruits see SEC schools as the only viable path to the pros and thus other regions lose their high ranked recruits to the SEC
The PAC-12 forgot they were vulnerable. At one point they could have taken those 4 BIG-12 schools; when UT and Oklahoma left for the SEC just assumed their marquee teams would stay forever-bye to USC & UCLA. Did they try to help those alliance partners? No!
@Simulation algorithm Also, wan't reported that they did not want religious schools too?
College football died when the College Playoffs made bowl games irrelevant to TV and the average fan. This is just the corpse coming back to life as the waking dead. But the real question is who will care about minor league football, when there is pro football to watch. There is some question in my mind whether the students in the colleges in question will even bother watching the teams that bear that schools name, as it will be obvious to anyone intelligent enough to be in college that the teams are completely disconnected from the schools they supposedly represent?
Funny enough the bowl games have been MORE entertaining competition wise than the actual playoff games.
Shows you how pathetic the playoff selection is even if you disapprove of it being there to begin with.
And I’m not a big fan of college football whatsoever.
I wonder how much Disney has to do with this, if any at all. I think they have an 80% stake in ESPN. My point is that Disney has turned whatever they have bought into absolute shit since about a decade ago. Could have no bearing on what you’ve mentioned in this video, though. It just made me think about that. Totally agree with you. It doesn’t feel as genuine or magical, if you will, as it did 15-20+ years ago. Ha ha I posted this before the end of the video, so I didn’t see the Micky Mouse bit.
I will never watch college football again. I mean, the CFB playoff system is what killed it to keep the fanboys happy. Thankfully this video made me see the light.
That is because our country cares about money above everything man. It gets shown to you every day.
This won’t work. I can guarantee you that anyone who isn’t a usc fan will we ten times less interested in watching usc playing at Rutgers or Maryland in a conference game. People will tune out and ESPN will lose money.
Best thing is how a lot of these schools are going to regret this when they get destroyed year after year.
When I was a junior at Kent State, I had a journalism professor who spent most of his career at Central Michigan before relocating to Ohio and finishing his time at KSU. I don't remember how sports came up but he said something to the effect of schools like CMU, KSU, Bowling Green, etc. should stop trying to compete with Ohio State and Alabama. Instead, just create a separate division. I wish they would. As much as I'd like to think that Sun Belt, MAC, Mountain West, etc. schools can keep up with the Power Five but that just isn't realistic, not anymore. There was a time when the playing field was more level. But those days are gone. Let the Power Five become NFL Lite and the rest of the FBS can become their own entity, much like the FCS. Everything else would basically stay the same.
It felt like I was the only one who was speaking out against Texas and Oklahoma joining the sec last year
Shared this everywhere I could.
I said this over 25 years ago! Why Congress didn't pass a law to bust up this station is a mystery to me.
Congress doesn't bust up companies anymore. They make occasional noise about it, like the empty threats to do it to MLB, but they never do.
The money isn't coming from ESPN. It's coming from ESPN's advertisers which are based on ratings, like every other TV entertainment product. If people watched more Oregon State or Washington, the PAC 12 wouldn't be so reliant on UCLA and USC for their TV deals that they'd think moving conferences would benefit them much.
Yeah, sounds good but you can only watch what they broadcast. God forbid we miss an Alabama or Ohio State game. People like you are part of the problem, blindly following the herd and liking what you're told to like.
@@johnulmer6715 ESPN broadcasts 3-5 games per week, and then another couple on ABC. Then Fox broadcasts more. Every conference now also has their own channel. There's BIG10 Network, ACC Network, PAC-12 Network, etc. Then there's local market broadcasts of games.
On top of all of that there's even more on streaming platforms. Of course ESPN is going to feature the games they think will draw them the most ratings and advertising revenue, but we have far more choice than we've ever had in TV's history. What are you talking about?
@@robertterhune4965 most of those conference networks are affected by ESPN (ACC and SEC from what i know definitely are)
Don't blame anybody but the NCAA. They are solely responsible.
The NCAA in cfb practically doesn’t exist. ESPN has become the new NCAA
I’m glad that you brought up Europe and the Super League. And something I personally notice is that in Europe, they are a lot more passionate with their teams than Americans. And that might be a reason why I believe many Americans seem to not care much, or are willing to protest these moves in college football.
i miss the big east- uc upitt, etc. louisville kentucky.
I think ESPN’s goal is to pipe in crowd noise into empty stadiums so they can capture 100% of the viewing market.
lmao good one
So well put - from a now ex-fan of college sports.
Another big gripe with ESPN I have is they continue to have Fowler and Herbstreit call the biggest game every week. This despite the fact the broadcast team of Blackledge and McDonough is so much better.
👏 Bravo, This was on point and we'll done.
Just get a playoff, they said. Everything will be fine. Nice to know all of us who knew the playoff would fail were right all along.
Playoff games don't reliably determine who the best teams are, because upsets often happen. "Every dog has its day", as they say.
@@thomascollins6815 Playoffs ruined the whole regional flare that we LOVED about college football. I'm sorry, but the Rose Bowl was ALWAYS Big 10/Pac 10. You'd watch the Sugar Bowl, and it was always SEC and ACC. Fiesta Bowl was ALWAYS BIG 12 and someone East and then at night you had the Orange Bowl.
THAT was the beauty of the sport to me. I didn't need to see Nebraska win a goddamn single elimination tournament in 1995. It was just obvious when they smoked Florida by 50 points in 1995. It was so cool, because it was regional! There are OTHER ways to decide a winner than a single elimination tournament, fellas. The oligarchs own the game now. You'll never see Boise State win, or Colorado win a National Title, like they did in 1990.
"And, don't forget Larry Scott." Brilliant closer!!!
I'm a UVA fan and the UVA vs Tech game used to be on 2 separate local channels for both Basketball and Football every time they had a game. Now it's on ESPN exclusively. They don't even have ACC tournament games on local tv anymore and barely have regular ACC games on local tv. It's like if you don't have espn which I don't you can't watch local (ACC games)college football or basketball.
I don't have cable either and never have so I watched college football l games from the sec acc and old big east cuz there usually wouldn't be any games on abc at 11:00 except for Texas vs Oklahoma or Ohio State vs Michigan
I'm a UNC fan, and ever since that b.s. ACC Network came out the other year, I miss EVERY Football & Basketball game that is streamed online via ACCNX (ACC Network Extra - streaming platform); due to them being "Blacked out in my area"... I live in Eastern North Carolina, and have the ACC Network as part of my satellite subscription... Tell me how that make's any sense... Which the ACCN is a part of ESPN, so it makes total sense; it's complete trash... Go Heels!!! *_🇺🇸🐍🇺🇸_*
I’m an Oklahoma fan, and while I’m excited for the move to the SEC I know it A: probably won’t go that well for us W-L wise, and B: is just our schools effort to stay relevant. Alabama has the SEC, and Ohio State has the B1G, but the dominant schools in other conferences are just as good/historical (idk what word to use) but are limited by their conferences and location. Schools such as Oklahoma, Texas, Oregon, Utah, even independents like BYU and Notre Dame were (or currently are) going to jump ship regardless of the current shift of landscape, all this did was accelerate the process.
College football has always had its issues and problems, but the rivalry games and traditions made the sport fun and exciting. That’s been taken away from us over the last few years, and like others, was upset when WV, Nebraska, and TAMU jumped conferences s few years ago. I always wished the NCAA would jump in and stop the continual conference realignment, but maybe that would cause more problems.
History and tradition. RIP...
As a the Ohio State fan. I've stopped watching college football for the mass majority of the year. It's pretty damn boring at this point. It's just super teams punching down on everybody else and I just don't enjoy watching that
yeah its hard to get excited to watch ohio state against a team like rutgers
Spot on and articulated perfectly.
I'm a Missouri fan. We left the Big 12 a decade ago because Texas was sucking the life out of the conference. Now with bellies full, they are decoupling and we have to put up with them again. Probably won't be long until we get "relegated"
The sad thing is I don't care as much as I did a decade ago. College football feels much more empty. In the pursuit of making the player a professional, they lost the student aspect
As former fan of The Ohio State I realized too late also. What open my eyes was Hugh contact for Mich State coach due to transfer portal & NIL! Made realized college game was becaming like NFL, just chasing 💵!!! Buckeye game almost all have no drama. Their +10 point favorite for every game this season. This last Michigan game was 1st whole game watch in over 3 years!!!
The real question is: if you are still paying for cable (and by extension, ESPN) why? I was once a big sports fan, but as my reasons for watching each sport were outweighed by the growing reasons not to, I stopped watching. ESPN's influence will vanish as their audience and cashflow evaporate.
Once the NIL was introduced, I knew College football would be like the MLB payroll. The bigger boosters will get (buy) the best players and the smaller markets will never be able to compete
What happened to the game that I used to play in the backyard.
Yeah, college football has always been my favorite sport. The last five or six years though, I've been slowly falling out of love with it. Especially after this last year, like you mentioned UCLA, and USC... Personally I just can't get into FBS college football.
FCS, or division 2, whatever it's called now, is much more entertaining to watch. They still need to do away with the preseason rankings, but the system is set up a lot better than FBS
Everything is straight greed and destroys everything
"How ESPN ruined (insert any sport they have laid hands on here)"
I dunno I feel like Saban and the Crimson tide are a huge blame. Being such a powerhouse of a team and everyone wanting to bring them down
It ironic because nick saban hates conference realignment
Profit margins have destroyed sports, both professional and collegiate.
Money/Greed ruins everything and is the root of all evil
Greed is not always bad but if its for something selfish and nonbenificial for everyone then yeah it shows how rotten everyone has become. I personally don't trust colleges anymore because they are run by the government and the government has shown recently that they only care about their woke agenda. Colleges are breeding grounds for brainwashing easily influenced kids fresh out of high school but thats not enough so of course they are trying to work on brainwashing them at younger ages before the parents have a chance to realize what they are doing. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want but it real does feel like everyone in power is trying to destroy the country and turn it into a Socialist paradise which they will plan to gather up all the remaining conservative people within the country and execute them. I say that because many historical events went the exact same way which they take away all sources of freedom and protection in order to force people to stop resisting before killing them all. It has happened dozens of times throughout history but they don't ever teach it to you on schools. They don't want you to think but only to obey.
Money & greed are 2 different things. You gonna tell me UCLA losing money in the athletic budget going to the BIG for more money is a bad thing? That’s not greed, that’s smart.
Before we say it is all ruined thanks to ESPN, think of the other circumstances around college football: sky high tuition, less football athletes playing the game, much less interest in the game on the West coast, CTE’s long term effects on the players, people moving SE, and money needed to continue some traditions. Even the stadium in Pasadena may not be used for the Rose Bowl yearly(use WiFi stadium) to get more revenue, better seating, concessions, etc. Everything has to change in time.
The reason tuition is so high is because student loans are so easy to get. If money wasn’t so easy to get, tuition would be lower.
And all that led to the destruction of 100 year old rivals and conference affiliation how? You can draw a line back to how espn has been shaping this behind the scenes.
@@erose964eh I think it would be the opposite but it’s understandable where you come from
Pretty soon you're going to have to buy ESPN+ and order each game you want to watch. Money baby
Then piracy would explode.
It's already exploded (Piracy) tbh
It sounds crazy but it feels like the bcs system worked better
Love the BCS
FCS football hasn't died off in the last 50 years. I don't see why the bottom 2/3s of the FBS school's football programs would die off. They just are much more likely to be unpaid amateurs rather than semipro teams that the top of the FBS has become. And if its really the pre-television 'college spirit' you are after you may well have it better after the top end completely separates itself.
Ruined football college but also Monday Night Football and sports in general ESPN is the worst thing to ever happen to sports
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! But I really do not give a shit. I am an Army VETERAN and a West Point LIFEWR fan. WE get to play in the GREATEST college game there is, and play it every DAM YEAR! GO Army beat Navy!
My college didn’t have a football team and wasn’t a sports school in any way shape or form, so I don’t know too much about college sports compared to what I know about pro sports. I think it’s sad to see. There is a ton of tradition that is getting wiped away. My family is a Penn State family since my mom and brother went there, I’m glad they are in a relevant conference. The fall of the PAC 10 is sad to see. I grew up and live in the Bay Area and I know so many people who are die hard Berkeley and Stanford fans. I also know many USC and UCLA fans from when I lived in Southern California. I guess those two schools are safe now.