Let Me Clarify Some Things on the Babe Ruth Auto

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  • @pepinoman9271
    @pepinoman9271 Місяць тому

    Nice transparency

  • @ACollectorsDream
    @ACollectorsDream 2 місяці тому +5

    Thanks for sharing

  • @davelachey8118
    @davelachey8118 2 місяці тому +7

    No need to apologize Mike. As a watcher of the video I can read between the lines and realize that not all the details were incorporated into the video. The deal was done in a fair and equitable fashion, that’s the important outcome.

  • @GarySuley
    @GarySuley 2 місяці тому +3

    Mike, don’t always feel that you need to “clear the air” for strangers. Those of us who are dedicated to your videos understand your expertise and passion. Let the haters hate and you just keep doing your thing. ✌️⚾️⭐️

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому +2

      I get it Gary but this situation needed some more explanation

    • @CVMGAM
      @CVMGAM 2 місяці тому +1

      Dial the bro love just a touch back

  • @SilverF0XX
    @SilverF0XX 2 місяці тому +3

    The Chasing Cardboard episode video was great, the editing on that video was a little odd on the auto verification/opinions (seemed out of order, the timeline I mean) IMO (As a Video Engineer this was the first time things seemed out of order). Additionally, the applied Audio for the intro was really hot. It happens....However, I never felt like things were not on the up and up. Keep doing what your doing and bringing us great content and KEEP CHASING

  • @s.macintosh-jc9rf
    @s.macintosh-jc9rf 2 місяці тому +2

    Hi Mike,
    I was really impressed by this video answer to the Babe Ruth autograph from a previous video.
    In my life I give the benefit of the doubt in as many cases as possible. Editing can really distort the perception of the viewer and in this case the editing didn’t do any favours for you Mike.
    I’m glad that I didn’t rush to judgment on this issue. I’m totally supportive of you Mike.
    Best Wishes,
    Peter

  • @mikethesportshistorycollec1947
    @mikethesportshistorycollec1947 2 місяці тому +3

    First, I did think the video regarding the autograph was a little awkward and that's probably what prompted the comments. I am curious, and I know you won't say, who said it was an obvious forgery. If it's who I think it is, he must have been having a bad day. Anyway, don't sweat the haters...you and Ty do a great job buying these collections and you never take advantage of the sellers. You can't ask for anything else.

  • @stuke1976
    @stuke1976 2 місяці тому +2

    I can see where you can be spoked by someone throwing out that it was a forgery. You mentioned Lakeland and having been there for Tigers Spring games, I figured you had proof enough. I bought a 1964 Twins ball near Orlando, with a Clemente autograph. Looked good and it was confirmed by a JSA. Florida is a great place for items like that.

  • @topps85401
    @topps85401 2 місяці тому +1

    Interesting video.

  • @jakestoe
    @jakestoe 2 місяці тому +2

    Im starting to see a pattern here. Whenever Mike is on an episode, he has to do a clarification video the next day😂 j/k.. I, with no expertise in Ruth's autos, thought it looked legit. I never questioned it..😂
    Its actually a really nice and bold auto. Hopefully the buyer doesn't make a cut signature card out of it.

  • @chrishayes4166
    @chrishayes4166 2 місяці тому +5

    The editing on that episode did ya dirty, I know I'd be annoyed if it were me being shown that way with really key story telling elements completely missing. Just jumped from "yeah it's legit, worth 6k" to "it's probably fake" and then made it seem like you guys took and authenticated the auto's anyways with no recognition of what you were actually doing there. Which obviously isn't exactly the greatest look and just confusing storytelling. Chasing Cardboard does have really high quality production value though so probably just an oversight in the cutting room putting it together.
    Well explained here though and definitely changes how I feel about it after watching previously on first release. Maybe they'll re-edit or add something to the episode to clarify so that kind of reaction doesn't linger as more people discover and watch?

    • @Johndeplume.
      @Johndeplume. 2 місяці тому

      This was my take on it too - not that I thought that's what happened, of course, but rather how it looked to someone who'd be watching for the first time, with no knowledge of anyone in the hobby.

  • @forgerelli1
    @forgerelli1 2 місяці тому

    If Frank's 2nd opinion was Mr. K I wouldn't spend my money on it. I think Mr. K is overly cautious sometimes, but I'd rather err on the side of caution when spending big money.

  • @thebullhornshotmic
    @thebullhornshotmic 2 місяці тому

    When it comes to autographs, as you and Frank know, you just have to educate yourself and sometimes you know more than the “experts.” I am sitting on a few incredibly rare signed items that I know are good but the experts won’t formally authenticate but told me verbally were real.

  • @trevorcraig9110
    @trevorcraig9110 2 місяці тому +3

    Makes you look more guilty. Release all uncut video. You were bringing on other videos before the reveal that it was real.

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому +3

      Guilty of what? I don't think we are going to release 12 hours of uncut video. Nothing was done wrong here. And if you can't believe that then just go away and watch something else.

    • @trevorcraig9110
      @trevorcraig9110 2 місяці тому +3

      @@BaseballCollector I’ll watch all 12 hrs and prove you wrong. There isn’t 12 hrs btw. Release all emails and text messages also. You’re hiding something. It’s also weird that you didn’t show boxes with the big cards in it, like all your other episodes. Some shady stuff. Can we have a list of all the cards you guys bought?

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому +4

      @@trevorcraig9110 What do we have to hide? You have zero stake in this so why do you even care?
      I actually just decided that I don’t care what you think. I don’t have to answer to you. Go watch more Sports Card Radio to stoke the hobby conspiracy fires

  • @trevorcraig9110
    @trevorcraig9110 2 місяці тому +3

    Ty trying to steal records from the old guy too. Running away so the old guy cannot hear his conversation.

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому +4

      Ty didn't even buy the records. He was hooking the guy up with another buyer. You just read so much into what was happening without having any of the facts.

  • @Wootensportscards
    @Wootensportscards Місяць тому

    Sounds like the person who said obvious forgery needs to be taken out of your contact list

  • @Wootensportscards
    @Wootensportscards Місяць тому

    Anyone who knows about the hobby and you , knows your good to go Dont let the haters bother you , they have nothing better to do then hate on people who are more successful

  • @user-sp1uf5ky5w
    @user-sp1uf5ky5w 2 місяці тому

    Mike it is big of you to make this follow-up. Pretty obvious to anyone who watches Chasing Cardboard that you are a standup dude. No matter what, on the internet, you are going to get haters or people who just feel like busting someone's chops. In the moment there were questions because it is Babe friggin Ruth. Bottom line, trust your gut. You coulda made a deal based on if it were real or not and been willing to pay for the authentication no matter the result. Stay you. That goes for Ty too.

  • @CarlFord-qj4fc
    @CarlFord-qj4fc 2 місяці тому

    I watched the video and was surprised at the negative comments towards you. Every video I have watched of yours, you come across as honest and full of integrity.

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      It happens. I usually don't let it bother me, nut for some reason this time it did.

  • @benjaminb3295
    @benjaminb3295 2 місяці тому

    Mike, I don’t know you but I’ve seen nearly all of “Chasing Cardboard”. I’ve seen you two go above and beyond with empathy and fairness to the people you purchase from. Keep up the good work . And no need to explain yourself to anyone.

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      I appreciate it. We certainly aren't perfect but we try to do the best we can.

  • @user-id3yb8iu5o
    @user-id3yb8iu5o 2 місяці тому

    I saw the video,I knew exactly what you guys were doing, with getting it authenticated and then assessing the value. 100 percent, the right thing to do. Off the bat , I thought it was legit and I’m glad your actions confirmed it . I would have done what you did to make everyone feel comfortable. Love the story .-Keep Collecting !

  • @ChasingMajors
    @ChasingMajors 2 місяці тому

    Please don't take the comments personally. Haters will always find something to complain about. Those who know you know you are a consistently ethical person on UA-cam.

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      I hear what you are saying. It's just hard sometimes John.

  • @deadprezful
    @deadprezful 2 місяці тому

    I watched the video and the clarification is when yall said these autos we will work separately to help you. Keep up the great videos!!!

  • @NuthinFancyCollectibles
    @NuthinFancyCollectibles 2 місяці тому

    I seem to recall that the deal excluded the Ruth auto, but you agreed to have it authenticated for them if they wanted. That’s what I understood. That is exactly what was done. Why is the “auto” road being traveled again? I don’t think you guys have anything to apologize for. Keep doing what you do. Also, thanks for what you do!

  • @TamTranTriZzle
    @TamTranTriZzle 2 місяці тому

    Call me wierd, but the only issue I have is that your "source" should take a humble pill and rethink why he should never state that something is "OBVIOUSLY" fake (or real).
    There is an arrogance when an expert in a particular area makes such a galvanizing statement that leaves no room for doubt.
    We all give incorrect opinions, so errors in judgement is no big deal, but its moreso his galvanizing declaration of " its an obvious fake", specifically when something is that close to the real thing (that auto, fake or real, we all can agree that it was exceptionally and significantly very close).
    Any other expert would have said along the lines of "I believe it may be... or I have a little bit of doubt that it is.... or I'm fairly sure it could be fake but....
    But to state that it is obviously a fake... I was floored at that part in the video!
    I was like "that auto is too close, and that person is viewing photos of it" and for them to state it with 100% certainty, can only speak more about their ego than anything else.
    I sure hopes he doesn't authenticate for a living lol

  • @user-di5pn8zh5w
    @user-di5pn8zh5w 2 місяці тому

    How can I possibly get a bid in on the Babe Ruth auto.

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      Send me an email to gonzaleznut @hotmail.com with an offer.

  • @chrisolivo6591
    @chrisolivo6591 2 місяці тому

    At 24:40, you said the ‘story doesn’t jive’ before it was authenticated.
    At 36:35 you said ‘the story made so much sense’ after it was authenticated.

  • @shakascloset1700
    @shakascloset1700 2 місяці тому

    To many people listening to the sheriff's of the hobby and just want to be negative Nancy's.

  • @user-ns7sh6ln2x
    @user-ns7sh6ln2x 2 місяці тому

    You guy's are authentic..thanks

  • @PickerJimS
    @PickerJimS 2 місяці тому

    Hey Mike some people are going to bitch no matter what

  • @nunzi83
    @nunzi83 2 місяці тому +1

    Big fan of the show and the knowledge you guys have. I didn’t comment on the video but I felt the big issue was the low balling valuation. The first guy said value is about 6k (which I thought was very low). Then later on you were saying the value was 2-3k when talking to the sellers.

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      Funny thing is that the clip where I said 3-4 was shot before Frank told me 6. Even though it appears in the video to happen later.

  • @CraigsCards62
    @CraigsCards62 2 місяці тому

    Good explanation - i dislike it when people make broad assertions when they lack the context.

  • @liverust5
    @liverust5 2 місяці тому

    Ty is over paying now because so worried about public perception and now has to flip everthing on whatnot to maybe get over comps becsuse he overpays. How about not filming everything. What did people do before youtube?

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      Interesting perspective. Ty is running a business. Shouldn’t a business owner use every platform possible to increase the visibility of his business?

    • @liverust5
      @liverust5 2 місяці тому

      @@BaseballCollector I don't know but seems like negotiations should be private. Let's face it, you guys were always paying fair but after being criticized by a vocal few, you now seem to be overpaying and then have to do the quick flip on whatnot probably for thin margins.

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      You are definitely in the minority as most viewers want to know the details of the deal.

  • @liverust5
    @liverust5 2 місяці тому

    Its stupid filming every transaction to make money on UA-cam. Ever hear of privacy. Dont disclose what you pay

  • @huddy22
    @huddy22 2 місяці тому +1

    I think that Ty comes across as such an unlikable guy who’s trying to fleece that innocent, sweet, old man.

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому +2

      Interesting. You are in the minority because pretty much every one else sees him as I do. An insanely caring person who would never cheat anyone.

  • @mackeymintle66
    @mackeymintle66 2 місяці тому

    Clearing the air, to placate conspiracy viewers will tire a person out.
    Embrace the any publicity is good publicity….and let the haters ramble on, on their own. 😅

  • @baseballHOFautographs
    @baseballHOFautographs 2 місяці тому

    Yikes, just waking up to this video. Mike-we need to trust our gut instincts from now on

  • @word.723
    @word.723 2 місяці тому

    I don't understand the negative voices. Anyone that has watched the way you go about your life knows you don't do shady stuff. Thanks for the clarification and go forward knowing that there are some sad people in this world that need attention. An argument for them is social contact and it is easier than making a friend.

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      There are plenty of people who only watch Chasing Cardboard and do not see me in any other context. I totally get what you are saying about the sad people only seeking attention.

    • @menamiller50
      @menamiller50 2 місяці тому

      @@BaseballCollector I cant help but wonder if going on Chasing Cardboard is the issue??? You don't have to clarify anything in your videos, but isn't this the second vid you had to clarify from Chasing Cardboard?

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      Fair point. Chasing Cardboard gets a ton more viewers than my channel. When you have that many more viewers, you have that many more vocal critics. People watch every little detail to try to catch us saying something wrong.

    • @menamiller50
      @menamiller50 2 місяці тому

      @BaseballCollector or the issue could simply be their editing.

  • @gregotime4442
    @gregotime4442 2 місяці тому +1

    Remember them saying you'll get like 30 % of the autograph card sales...because it cost so much to send to psa....gosh cmon.....probably should have edited that out....swing and a miss bubbas....

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      You remember that completely wrong. The autographs were never part of the deal. They were completely separate.

  • @jayzeiter4678
    @jayzeiter4678 2 місяці тому

    Mike- those that know you or have made deals with you, know the truth- you are honest, trustworthy and well respected. No need to clarify to us. Again great to connect with you at Strongsville.

  • @leehaskins307
    @leehaskins307 2 місяці тому

    If u get a relaible source that says “OBVIOUS FORGERY” it probably is… even if another source says its real… I sign checks for my aging mother as a power of attorney and yeah my auto is now konw has hers… autos change thru time..

  • @oarancards4443
    @oarancards4443 2 місяці тому

    Stevie wonder can tell you its a bad fake ,you sound delusional

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому +1

      I might just be delusional, but PSA still authenticated it.

  • @benjaminlyng8269
    @benjaminlyng8269 2 місяці тому

    I would like to see the Ruth auto. Is there a close up view on the other video?

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      It is shown pretty close up in the Chasing Cardboard episode.

  • @yodapappacards
    @yodapappacards 2 місяці тому +1

    Great job Mike you are such a great person to interact with in cards

  • @huddy22
    @huddy22 2 місяці тому

    How bad is Mike’s guilt on this one when he feels the need to film another damage control video from his office on company time?

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому +2

      No guilt here. And I own my company so….

    • @huddy22
      @huddy22 2 місяці тому

      @@BaseballCollector that’s ok then. As long as you aren’t messing around on someone else’s dime when you are supposed to be working.

  • @Johndeplume.
    @Johndeplume. 2 місяці тому

    Mike: If a person watched that Chasing Cardboard episode for the first time, and WASN'T aware of Ty or yourself, it looked as if you were sure it was authentic, then were heavily swayed that it wasn't (based on further advice from other expert/s), at which point you gave reasons why it didn't quite 'jive'... then flash forward to the end, and you reveal it was legit, and you appeared to then back up the story all along.
    I think you were stitched up in the editing, and my comment on the video was an observation on how it 'appeared' (not what I thought actually happened).
    In any case, all's well that ends well. I'm looking forward to the next episode of CC, and of future uploads from you, Mike. 👍

  • @garylee3893
    @garylee3893 2 місяці тому

    No biggie. I think you and Ty make a cool duo LoL seriously, reminds me of Frank and Mike from American Pickers on history channel. Contact them and get a history channel show. I bet they would at least consider, or maybe UA-cam channel monetized is more profitable, I don’t know much about UA-cam payments but I know they supposedly pay people based on views I think. Anyway just thoughts. Keep videoing and I keep watching. Thx guys

  • @CVMGAM
    @CVMGAM 2 місяці тому

    It's amazing to me how much people put their trust and faith in authenticator's , as if the are the know all or can even possibly know 100% if it's real or fake. Even the correct ball, paper or ink for the time does NOT 100% guarantee authenticity. Let alone a good story that comes with the auto. I wish I can show some PSA slabbed autos that you would shake your head at, buy hey, PSA said so, so there you go.

  • @michaelderyder426
    @michaelderyder426 2 місяці тому

    You are one of the best guys in the hobby. Regardless of what people thought because of editing, we know how solid you are brother. Thanks for all you do.
    Regards,
    Big Mike.

  • @davidmussari
    @davidmussari 2 місяці тому

    This all seems unnecessary Mike and I agree with the other comments that you shouldn’t have to explain yourself. Anyone questioning your integrity almost certainly has their own issues. Now, with that said, that phone call in the middle of THIS video was SUSPICIOUS AF!!! 😂

  • @nordiq21
    @nordiq21 2 місяці тому +3

    Yeah, another shady collection buy. Poor owner is dying and you flip flop on the Ruth auto. Classy.

    • @word.723
      @word.723 2 місяці тому +1

      DId you even watch the videos?

  • @notafraid75
    @notafraid75 2 місяці тому

    Mike, there is no need to apologize or give clarity. My takeaway from the episode was that there was another opinion on the Ruth auto and I figured that SGC or PSA would authenticate it. I am of the opinion that you cover your bases, be open with your client (which I felt you were) but also knew that, for the sake of entertainment and the show, that we probably do not know every detail of the transaction…that is really none of our business. Thanks for posting about the auto but I was good with the episode and how it was aired last night. #keepchasing

  • @southerncalicards
    @southerncalicards 2 місяці тому +1

    It was an edit mistake so blame the producer LOL! In all seriousness, it looked like an oversight in the production. When I was watching it I was wondering what happened too but was able to put two and two together and just assumed something happened behind the scenes. I think people that criticized didn't catch those little details. It was clear the Ruth was not included in the original deal! It was a great show by the way! But there the question still remains, how much did they get for those two autos? Will it be a percentage of what it sells for? What will the percentage be? Just asking for transperancy. Thanks Mike!

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому +1

      We have not sold the autos as of yet. We still have them. The owner is getting the money for those minus a small fee for Chasing Cardboard and they paid for the authentication.

    • @southerncalicards
      @southerncalicards 2 місяці тому

      @@BaseballCollector thats awesome! Cant wait for another show! You guys are slowly becoming hobby legends! congrats on all the success Mike!

  • @randyworden5232
    @randyworden5232 2 місяці тому +1

    Babe has a beautiful signature....easy to forge

    • @chrisolivo6591
      @chrisolivo6591 2 місяці тому

      That’s why I never trust these authenticators, especially from an autograph of a person who died in 1948. The only autograph that would ever mean something to me is if I got it signed personally.

  • @randyworden5232
    @randyworden5232 2 місяці тому

    What kind of company do you work for that doesn't give you your own beast for your company files???

  • @TideWalker45
    @TideWalker45 2 місяці тому +4

    You specifically said “the story just doesn’t jive”

  • @TideWalker45
    @TideWalker45 2 місяці тому +2

    You either said something or you didnt. Yes, you can cut something at times to take out of context but in this instance you made a very clear stance and then reversed it when it came back legit. JUST ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG!

  • @armourcoin
    @armourcoin 2 місяці тому

    Mike, in my eyes this video was nice but not necessary. Based on your observations in the Chasing Cardboard video, I never questioned the authenticity of the autograph. I don’t recall the original owners name, but I ask the question what motive would he have had to fake a Babe Ruth autograph? Because he knew in 2024 it would be sold and stir up controversy? I don’t think so. This man was a baseball fan, and the Hank Greenberg picture demonstrates that. If I were alive in that era, and I had the chance to meet Babe Ruth and get his autograph I sure would have.

  • @MEGR7
    @MEGR7 2 місяці тому

    I understood that was the case. I think you guys were very generous in buying that lot. I hope the dude can get the treatment he needs.

  • @cartissimo
    @cartissimo 2 місяці тому

    I loved the Episode. You obviously put a lot of time and energy into producing great content for the hobby. So sad to see so many people putting so much energy in taking you down.
    Keep on keeping on. Love your work.
    - Benoît from France

  • @cditsious
    @cditsious 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't know why you're apologizing. People are stupid and looking for reasons to bury people. They are nit worth your time. It was a great episode!

  • @Vsnipes71
    @Vsnipes71 2 місяці тому

    Baseball collector and master authenticator! thanks for elaborating

  • @zachpierce641
    @zachpierce641 2 місяці тому +2

    Some of the responses you’re getting are people literally combing through sports card videos looking for a controversy.
    I’ll be honest it caught my attention. I watched the conversation a few times trying to catch what you were saying because I started the reading the comments and knew people were going to take it wrong . It did feel like you back tracked at first but it took me watching it a few times to make sense of it , but also people have to understand you have the right to change your mind on authenticity . Once you gather more information and change you’re mind that doesn’t make you shady at all
    Unless you guys start going in and buying collections for 100% Ebay value you’re going to get people trying to claim you’re being deceitful or shady. Just a no win situation for you all . Lot of trolls that don’t actually know you’re an honest guy

  • @warrendinCLE
    @warrendinCLE 2 місяці тому +1

    I'll be watching that episode next! Thanks Mike

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому

      Let me know what you think.

    • @warrendinCLE
      @warrendinCLE 2 місяці тому

      @@BaseballCollector will do Sir!

    • @warrendinCLE
      @warrendinCLE 2 місяці тому

      ​@@BaseballCollector from what I saw I felt you guys handled things professionally. I also felt the offers were fair and to offer them a percentage of what sells was right in my opinion. I hope this helps

    • @warrendinCLE
      @warrendinCLE 2 місяці тому

      ​@@BaseballCollector Also better to err on the side of caution and not give too much hope. I feel you guys did them right. Just my opinion

    • @BaseballCollector
      @BaseballCollector  2 місяці тому +1

      Appreciate the feedback Warren.