That love of music and especially playing it is slipping away day by day for me. I’m 43 and have been playing guitar for 30 years and drums for 33 years. I have the same taste of music that you have as well as bands that I’m a fan of (Big Deicide fan). All of a sudden out of nowhere I started getting bad migraines/cluster headaches last month. I have them every single day with no break. I went to the hospital and had a CT Scan which came back normal. I don’t have a history of migraines either. All the migraine medicines that people are normally subscribed do nothing at all. I’ve took the root of trying Psilocybin micro dosing. THC, etc which nothing is working. I’m not going to give up trying to find out what’s causing this to all of a sudden start happening. I can handle sporadic migraines but not every single day with no end in sight. Things that I love so much are slipping away. This isn’t one of those situations where a person can just suck it up, be a man, and don’t let it bother you. It’s very debilitating. I love your outlook on things. Especially when you are like “Don’t sit around and watch UA-cam all day!” Basically saying stop wasting time always watching what everyone else is creating and create something awesome yourself. I’m not expecting pity or some kind of magic answer to my situation. I just wanted to share my situation with someone with an open mind. I don’t know you personally but from what I’ve gathered through watching and listening to you that you have a very respectable original head on your shoulders. You create, play, and share your music for all the right reasons. The way you get so pumped up after creating an awesome guitar riff gives other people the drive to create and share as well. Thank you for sharing parts of your musical odyssey with us.
@@bultronlagore4932 Thank you for sharing your story and all the kind words. I'm so sorry to hear about what you've been going through. I'm not sure what tests you've done already but I randomly got some awful chronic migraines out of nowhere several years ago and nothing was working until I finally got in to see a neurologist who thought I might have long-term medication overuse headaches. Which was the culprit as I had been taking painkillers quite consistently for my general stomach issues, cramps, and back pain for many, many years. He got me on some sort of medication to reset my brain chemistry and it helped sooooo much. I have no idea what you're going through but just wanted to share that in case it's something the doctors haven't looked into yet. I truly hope you find some relief asap!! Good luck 🖤
@@ClainesWorld Thank you for taking the time to read my comment and reply. Do you know what the reset medication was called? I have an appointment with a Neurologist but it’s not for another month. I’m so glad you got your migraine issue solved. I swear we are having a migraine pandemic and I wonder if people from ages past also suffered from migraines close to the same scale. Something tells me the introduction to certain technologies may be the culprit for most.
Awesome story in that I hope that it helps you as much as you want to help others. Mad props. Also.. love that shirt. 🤘🏼 Edit.. Im seeing Canadian Mr. Cleans band in a little over a month. Love to shake his hand, and was curious if you'd be able to make that trip, if if you have any interest in that? If yes, I'd absolutely pick up your plane ticket. If not, no worries. I appreciate you both no matter what.
@@ClainesWorld found out today after an MRI with Dye injection Contrast that the reason I’m having the migraines everyday is due to Spinal fluid leakage from the back surgery I had last month. I’m actually very happy about this because now I know the trigger. I’m already scheduled for repair surgery next Wednesday so hopefully when I awake from the surgeries anesthesia I will also be awaking from a nightmare finally. Thanks again for taking the time to read my comments and reply. Cheers 🍻
I really resonate with the closing message of this video. People really need to LISTEN TO THEIR BODIES. My mom is in chronic pain and absolutely will not stop doing stuff that causes her pain. Her mindset is so focused on productivity that it's at the expense of her health and, as much as I try to tell her to rest, she just refuses to listen. I'm happy to see that you're making better choices for your health and not letting your inner demons own you. Mad respect to you o7
As someone who’s been playing in /toured in hardcore/metal bands for over a decade and works out often, I developed tendonitis in my right elbow a few years ago finally and it’s been not a fun time. Rehab and injury specific exercises have helped, but it’s definitely a depressing thing to deal with. Thanks for sharing your story with your experience, it’s nice to know there’s a lot of people dealing with the same thing I deal with.
I had tendinitis in my arm near my elbow (which sounds like something similar to yours) when I was 16 because I was playing a ton of guitar and i was using my whole arm for tremolo picking. It actually forced me to learn the correct technique because using *any* amount of tension in my arm would result in a piercing pain, so it acted as a guide to show me the way to "effortless" tremolo picking, which I've used ever since (if anyone's interested, I have a couple of videos on my channel). Thankfully, I was younger and I think that helped out with the recovery since it only lasted for a couple of weeks as far as I can remember. Thanks for sharing your story!
I’ve been dealing with Tendinitis for 4 months now, and this video has been inspiring for me! I’m one of the guitar players in my band, and my bandmates have missed me. I’ve been listening to my body and not pushing anything in order to heal as best as I can. Music has been the biggest part of my life for over 12 years now, and it’s been hard not to play, write, or practice guitar. I’m finally starting to heal thanks to a cortisone shot I had injected recently, but I can’t play for hours on end like I used to, because I can feel my body telling me, “You better stop or you’re gonna go right back to square one” around the 45 minute mark. Thank you for telling your story, Claire. I really needed this video, and I hope that this reaches more people in our same position.
Been and am still partly in a similar situation. 2,5 years of combined tendinitis, golfer's elbow and probably something else. The only thing that truly helped me was rest and exercises. As yourself I used to be a very stressed and anxious person throughout my life and I realized that one of the key components of truly healing physically is to have a clean psyche, which is something not that many people pay attention to in this current, western world. What really helped me was a spiritual cleansing with meditation and letting go of all stress/tension inducing beliefs. Only then I started realizing that when my body doesn't tense up instinctually, the tendons can actually rest. Stressed mind and soul produce so much unconscious tension that to be finally relieved of this for the first time in life, gives a feeling similar to Plato's cave. Hope you find this information, psychedelics are also a good place to start restructuring your psyche if you keep an open mind I wish you all the best on your journey toward healing
It's nuts that you can find the positives from such a tough experience. When your body fails you and stops you from doing the things you love it's so easy to get down and just give up on things. It's hella admirable to just keep finding new paths to keep going and try new things. Much love, keep it going!
Thank you so much buddy!🖤 I definitely haven't had a positive outlook most of this time, it was pretty friggin bleak for a lot of it haha. I'm glad that I'm able to see some positives in it now but I definitely still have days where it brings me down hard
@Claine's World I can imagine, I'm sure it feels like something is being stolen from you at times. But it's good to see you can appreciate how it's made you go down other paths and try things you maybe wouldn't have focused on otherwise.
Not tendinitis, but for years I struggled with Carpal Tunnel on my fretting hand and it absolutely wrecked me mentally (and of course physically. It also prevented things in my normally active lifestyle) and my heart goes out to any musician dealing with anything that gets in the way of their playing and passion. I've since had surgery which took care of about 80% of it, but the silver lining was I had to go back to the woodshed and fix my technique to be as easy on my fingers and hands as possible. Thanks for opening up on this topic, and I'm so with you with raising awareness on things like these. You (and Dean) rule. Here's to us all staying pain free, or recovering, and of course enjoying our instruments.
I'm so sorry for your struggles. I'm glad it made you go back and refine your technique though :). Thank you for sharing, I hope you manage to stay pain free 🖤!
Same injury on the same hand here. It's been a nightmare . Same struggle mentally and physically, it cripples you in so many different ways. Really hope you get through it and get well soon.
ive just had surgery on both hands and its been three months now with only about 70% recovery but way better, i couldn't even hold a pick for six months,which was the most dark days of my life, i can play again ,but i have to make a decision about my day job, either continue with a well paying gig or music, i chose the later and im still into my recovery and hope to recover at least to 90% which will be a blessing to me carpal tunnel is the worst for any musician, please take care of you hands people!
I've had tendinitis in my thumbs, effects lasted for years. Really cool that you are sharing your story. So many musicians live with the pain from over-exercising.
@@ClainesWorld I did some camera work for a famous Australian concert pianist. He worked out a method to avoid injury from playing piano two hours per day. It was way back in 1992, so I forgot his name, but he had to retire early from terrible pain in his hands. Acupuncture (which my Taiwanese neighbour provided) gave him temporary relief - enough to have his demonstrations filmed. That was back in Cape Town, South Africa, so I will ask my parents for details, if they remember better than me.
I really appreciate this video, as someone that was having back pains for the past 10 years or so I only recently got correctly diagnosed on what was actually wrong with my back. that being spinal stenosis and degenerative disc disease. I always loved playing really weighty guitars and as that went on it made my back worse. I've been really depressed these past few years because I would play for about 20-30 minutes and my back would be howling so it got to the point where I sold my guitars because I just felt so bad that I couldn't play them. looking into buying super light guitars since my back is getting better now with steroid injections in my back about 4 times a year and doing exercises. I never wanted to quit but I was doing what you did and played through the pain until I couldn't handle it anymore. thank you for this video and I hope that you get better 💜
I’ve had/have both tendinitis in my wrist and tennis elbow from playing since I was 19(I’m well into my 30’s now). What helped and continues to help me keep on playing is lifting weights. Specifically with compound movements such as barbell rows; it doesn’t stress the pain points because it includes and builds supporting muscles. Pair this with deep message therapy in said pain points(with proper rest) and it becomes much more manageable(almost gone in my case).
5 months late to this one, but fuckit. This is so much like my experience. I'm also in my 30s and had severe tendinitis in my picking arm. It was absolutely crushing physically and mentally because I so badly wanted to play but couldn't. Doctors were a total waste of time. Eventually I decided to figure it out for myself. 3 things combined have almost completely eliminated it within a year. Lifting weights, deep tissue massage and altering my picking technique. A healthy diet really helps too.
Thanks for sharing your story! Very much appreciated. I struggle every day with several injuries and hard as fuck pain in my body. Computer based music has helped me for a while, but it already hurts too. Had this conditions for 10 years now. Hang in there people. Stretch, keep doing your research and trying new strategies. I really hope that we all will be okay. Big hug from Argentina
Ive had tendinitis for about a year in my picking arm, specifically my elbow, wearing a compression sleeve helps, and making sure to warm up and then wait like 20 minutes before actually playing has helped me personally.
Second this, compression sleeves and even a sweat-band (or both) can help massively, also helps you to stay relaxed and helps to keep you in touch with the use of muscles/gives you more control. Haven't been back into guitar yet, but it can help massively with pain like that, including joint pain and other types/locations, even in day-to-day stuff or anything strenuous, and I'd imagine make it more likely that you're going to have minimal pain when you do play (as you're not straining it at other times).
@@necroticpoison exactly, it definitely helps get rid of unnecessary muscle work. I use a elbow compression sleeve, and it does wonders, it makes me use my wrist as opposed to my whole arm, which greatly extends how long i can play before any serious pain.
Thank you, stay strong, and all the best. Had an episode of bad shoulder and bad finger a few years ago, but luckily got it under control. Totally with you: listen to your body, work out, stay healthy for the music.
thanks for talking about this, I have a similar problem I've never told anyone about. I've kind of just played through the pain, but now its catching up and I need to get medical help for sure.
Hey Claine, I'm from Van too! Hope to see you guys in person one day :) I've had this exact issue and after many many months if not years trying to fix it, finally one major change that helped me was that - I know it sounds so random/irrelevant - I stopped eating peanut butter and any and all vegetable oils. Turns out these two create a massive chemical imbalance in your body that damages your joints over time + cause/intensify inflammation! Specially if you already have a not-so-ideal posture/habit. Our body has an amazing ability to heal itself when we sleep. If the healing is interrupted, it starts to pile up and becomes a chronic issue. Give it a try, I'm sure you will see a very noticeable improvement in a short amount of time. Let the METAL flow.. 🤘
Good video. Thanks for being honest. I dated a woman not too long ago that was going through tendinitis in both hands. It was sad seeing her break down having issues turning knobs and not being able to get through the process to have the surgery she needed. I’m not with her anymore so I don’t know how everything turned out but I hope she got her surgeries and is living a better life now. ❤️
I broke my primary thumb and am on month 5 of healing, I haven't been able to play drums since. I now have a great and new appreciation for my health haha. Cheers! 🤘🤘
I feel ya. Been about 20 yrs of struggling off and on, mostly on, with neck, elbow, and especially wrist, and hand pain. Stretching, exercise, various looks at ergonomics, and a better diet help to some degree. It can be a constant, shitty struggle, but keep your head up! Good luck Claire and all suffering with this stuff :)
I was on the road when I realized my hands would go so numb that I couldn't tell if the pick was between my fingers. The worst time of my life. It's extremely disheartening when you're at the peak of your career and something so detrimental comes between you and success.
I got De Quervain's tenosynovitis last year from working as a retread technician and I went through a massive depressive spiral last year from it, I managed to heal up enough to finally play guitar and play with my band again, I still get pains here and there but I don't push myself and just listen to my body closer than before. Hearing your story and experience makes me feel less alone
It’s good to see people talking about this kind of thing. I’m only a hobbyist guitarist but I also work on a computer all day for my day job and RSI pain has affected both things. I hope I can resolve it but for now I’ve resigned myself to the fact I probably won’t be able to play as fast or technical stuff in future, and it’s hard for me to play enough to even be able to play a covers gig every now and then. I do still get some enjoyment from playing slower stuff and doing things like composing classical music using sampling libraries. I wish so much that I paid more attention to practising/working healthy when I was younger though.
Thanks for sharing your story! I had issues with tendinitis when I was a drummer. I learned that, by far the two biggest difference makers are: 1) Be in good shape (regular strength training, regular power training, regular cardio, and don't be overweight) 2) Always warm up properly, and when I say properly I mean it can easily take 30+ minutes before you even begin to look at any exercises The downside with this reality is that it's just not feasible for some people. Depending on your life circumstances (family, working hours, fatigue) it can be absolutely impossible to devote 6+ hours per week to exercise and another several hours to warming up before even trying to think of improving on the guitar, not to mention the immense impact on motivation. But if you do get there you'll be much healthier and happier.
For years I've been meaning to produce a video about the only stretching excercises that helped me. This video and all the comments put fuel back on that fire. Thanks for reminding me that I still have a datum or two that I can contribute.
Man you really spoke to me throughout this entire video. I've been dealing with all the same issues with my fretting wrist and hand. I wound up going from 8 string back to 6 which I haven't played in 15 years or more. I had my second child this year and realized playing in two bands was a huge stress inducer so I am taking a break for a few years and just working on my playing. Anyway I really appreciate you posting this and I hope to see you doing what you love soon. Miss hanging out with you on twitch you were one of the best.
I am 52 years old and not a musician but I have had problems with epicondylitis humeri radialis for years. As a teacher, I have to write a lot and gaming in the wrong position has made things extremely worse. Painkillers never helped and I've tried everything. Special support bandages, ointments, physiotherapy, occupational therapy, acupuncture and even shock wave therapy at the end. The only thing that helped for a while were cortisone injections. When these failed as well, i was physically and mentally exhausted. I haven't been able to sleep through the night for months and was waking up 7-10 times a night from excruciating pain. I could only bend my right elbow up to 100 degrees, which meant I had to do everything with my left hand. Having suffered from depression for over 12 years, I ended up in really serious trouble. Finally, my doctor sent me for an MRI scan, which revealed that my elbow tendon was severely damaged. The only option was surgery. In fact, my right elbow got better over time, but the overload was too much for my untrained left elbow. 2 years after the first surgery i needed one on my left elbow. Through the experience with my right arm, I no longer waited so long that it became unbearable. In the meantime, I can use both arms again up to 80% and if I do my occupational therapy exercises, I feel quite well. I can fully do my job as a teacher again. Since you are much younger, if you stick to your exercises, you will definitely be able to get everything under control. 🤗💜
Hi Claine, thank you so much for sharing. It brought a tear to my eye. I have carpal tunnel from playing guitar and animating. I really resonated with alot of what you said. And through it all I've learned to listen to my body and to be kinder to myself. We should be our own biggest fans and love ourselves. Without self love we can't improve. I always try to remember that the fact I can draw and play guitar in general is a huge accomplishment. Thanks for sharing your story.
Thank you for the kind words and thank you for sharing your story. I'm sorry you're going through that but I hope you continue to find relief as you continue to take care of yourself 🖤
I also suffer from tendinitis. I've got it down to almost unnoticeable by smoking lots of weed, spending lots of time in the dry sauna, an hour a week split into 3 sessions will do wonders for your arms. And lastly Epsom salts. I use 3 cups per bath. That's enough to make your arms float in the tub. Try to sit there for 40 minutes. I play guitar at a high level and have bad tendinitis but this has been my remedy. For anybody else suffering please try my advice and feel free to ask any questions replying to this comment. Epsom salts baths twice a week and sauna at least once a week and you'll notice huge improvements on tendinitis.
You're beautiful and you've been beautiful. Never stop being YOU girl. I can't wait to see you move on. Take care of yourself and never let anyone push you too far. You got his.
100% fitness!!! I've had tendonitis in multiple spots like elbows, knees, and forearm for about 4 years now (also a metal drummer) and training/lifting smart and consise has made it so much more manageable. It comes and goes but training almost always puts it back in its place. You are on the right track!
I needed to hear this. Thank you Claire/Claine. All my hugs, and like, give Dean like a really deep and passionate kiss and tell him it was from me, a stranger on youtube.
so good to hear you talk so openly about this, loved the twitch and your channel and was wondering where you had gone (as i watch dean videos ) looking forward to hearing more music and honestly just seeing you having fun on the guitar.
thank you so much for making this video, i've actually started having pain in my back and right shoulder, and i can relate to a lot of what you said. this video might have saved me from developing tendonitis. Thank you!
Claine, you are the best part of Canada. Thank you for your videos, music and energetic smile. Thank you for sharing your story and for supporting other people. You are that strong beautiful person who this world needs 🖤❤😎🤘
I don't have tendinitis but I do struggle with carple tunnel. I started on bass but also play guitar, took piano lessons, and I am learning drums now. I was also a machinist for 8 years. It all adds up, my less than perfect technique, a job that is very hard on your hands and arms. I wish I could go back and do everything differently. Idk what the best solution for me is going forward. I think it's great you're talking about this though people need to be more aware of things like this. Musicians are athletes of fine motor skills and it's easier than most people realize to injure yourself in different ways that prevent or hinder your development. It goes even beyond just learning proper and ergonomic techniques, especially starting out it can be hard to take that stuff seriously. However a lot of times these injuries are not reversible. I feel your pain and wish you and anyone else dealing with repetitive stress injuries the best of luck on finding a way to live with it or fix it if possible.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I've seen how tremendously hard it is to deal with life when your body fails you, since my twin brother had and still has similar issues. I wish you total recovery so that we can get more of the Dean and Claine dynamic duo lol
Before I started playing guitar I acquired permanent lumbar damage in my lower spine, tendinitis in my neck, elbows and forearms and both my shoulders have rotator cuff issues. What I did was turn vegan and ate healthy, Ive spent years experimenting with stretches and yoga. Ive been playing guitar for over a year now and learning the most ergonomic way to play while eating anti-inflammatory foods has allowed me to enjoy playing for 20 min to an hour almost everyday. Everyday I have pain but I manage it very well with being self aware and stretching carefully throughout the day. Some days I rest and watch stuff when I feel like I shouldn’t do anything. Eventually you’ll find the best balance for yourself : ) have a great day!
I'm so sorry you've been going through that, but I'm really happy you've found things that work for you! I hope your pain continues to lessen until it's gone entirely! 🖤
I had tendonitis years ago from martial arts and didn't understand why it wouldn't go away especially since I was vegan. No matter what expensive treatments I had nothing helped until I finally gave up veganism and started eating low carb paleo style diet and the inflammation and tendonitis disappeared shortly after.
Finally got to watch your video. And i am so sorry you had to go through this basically half of your life and that the past two years were unbearable. I am glad you are coming slowly back. Can't wait to hear about your new band. Thank you for opening up
Hey claine, your story is really touching for me. I have had chronic headaches since I was 6 or 7, being 19 now Its been a long journey of learning how to live with chronic pain. About 6 months ago I started learning guitar, and there have been many times when I just felt like giving up because doing basically anything other than lying in bed often makes my headaches worse. while I have found medication that can lessen my pain, its still something I live with every day. Hearing your story is hard because I love music and I know u do to, and not being able to do something your so passionate about is, to put it lightly, depressing. Not to mention the fact that chronic pain by itself is something truly awrfuI. think a lesser person than yourself would have given up at this point. But your drive to find a way to live the life u want to live inspires me to do the same. U rock!
I watched a video about drug abuse yesterday where they said: "A car accident doesn't happen when you hit the pole. It happens 200ft before, when you lose control and skid on the ice". That's a good thing to remember. We usually pay attention to problems, when the effects are already visible and unavoidable. That's asking for the problem to be a lot harder to solve. It's best doing at least SOME level of prevention to maybe avoid having any problem at all. Small things do matter.
Thanks for sharing your pain and journey. Just be you, I bet most would tune in to streams if you just talked to your crows. Glad you are on the mend and are doing it how you want to do.
Thank you so much for sharing your story Claine. I'm really happy to hear that your finding a new relationship with yourself, with music, and with metal again. Truly inspiring. I've been drumming for a little over 30 years and the last couple of years my arm has been causing intense pain and I've been wondering if it's tendonitis or not. Now it hurts to even air drum, which just fuckin sucks. Having an exercise routine really resonates with me and it's definitely something I need to work on. Cause I also don't want to find myself pushing too hard and not being able to drum anymore or draw as well. Drawing has kinda taken the position of drumming cause of my living situation, but I could see how the injury could eventually interfere with that as well. Thank you again, very excited for your journey and future.
Thanks for making this video, and more importantly, I want to remind you that you should CONSCIOUSLY, willingly, take pride in your progress you've made through all this. A common inner voice from trauma pressures us to never take stock of the fact that we have weathered super tough shit and to then reward ourselves with a little elevated self-respect, etc. It's good to work on not only noticing our bodily states (dissociation being the double-edged sword that it is), but also our psychological and habit-oriented wins. You could do painting streams and vids and we would dig that. Relaxed streams where you sit around plants and crows, on and on. I hope you enjoy your exploration of all kinds.
I never really listened or read people's stories, I came to realization stories are really interesting. Thank you for sharing your story! and the title reminds me of Megadeth's The Sick, the Dying... and the Dead!
I have a lot of pain in my hand, my arms/ shoulders when I play so I feel you... I've always played with good posture so I was intrigued as to why. I'm 26. Sometimes weed helps but degrades my writing and playing skills. Double edged blade for me. I play when I feel like it but enjoy it when I do!! Keep on trucking guys.
Thanks for opening up like this. It's not easy to let people into this side of being a musician. We need to talk about it more. BUT can we also talk about how "skill check" requests are super toxic in the streaming world? Cuz they are. Why can't you enjoy the vibe and what's being played. We aren't here to show you how fast we can plan, we are here to share music with you.
Thanks! And yeaaa super toxic. Just in general, putting up videos and streaming, people are so ready to scrutinize and try to bring you down but we are here to share in the love of music and spread joy, not show off, where's the fun in that!
I'm glad I ran across this video! I'm 30 and have range of motion issues. Basically can't work out like I want and hand tingles while playing live sometimes but just trying to cautiously work through at my own pace. Better than an injury or giving up entirely. Keep it up!
My second guitar was a steel string guitar. I can concur, shit hurts until you develop callouses. If you're new, go for a classical guitar and save your fingers. Thanks for sharing your experience Claine, I hope you get it to a point where the tendonitis doesn't affect you as much.
Claine, thank you for speaking out on this topic. I have severe tendinitis in both arms from working as an electrician, and it totally changed how I played guitar and really fucked me up mentally. I am getting the proper treatment for it and now I am able to play guitar again. Switching to lighter gauge strings is a must. Chiropractic care can really help if you find a good one. If you have other chronic pain ask your doctor about Gabapentin or Lyrica, those are godsend meds for any kind of chronic pain (at least for me). I wish more musicians would speak out on this topic.
I've been having that same problem with tendinitis for over 30 years. I'll never forget the first time I experienced the tingling from the elbow and down to my pinky on my fretting hand. I just give myself breaks in playing for weeks at a time.
I relate to a lot of what you are saying. I also feel a need to always take on challenges way beyond my level, and I also have a lot of anxiety about performance or just about my current level of ability at everything, music, even at my day job in a completely unrelated field. I believe it's related to feelings of inadequacy and worthiness. I don't really know where I picked up the belief that I'm not ok just as I am, but it could be related to being a girl and always liking and wanting to do things that are typically seen as not for women. I'm still learning that I am worthy no matter how much I know or how well I can play guitar. It's a journey for sure, thanks for sharing yours.
Yea it's definitely a long and hard journey haha. I'm sorry you struggle with all that. Just wanna say that you're a fucking awesome person and you are 1000% worthy just as you are 🖤
I’m so, so proud of you for breaking away from the substance abuse. You are smart, talented, funny and beautiful. You are an absolute fucking gem amongst a sky studded with mediocre souls. Please keep existing.
I hope you find a medical solution to your problems. I also have a lot of injuries where playing guitar is almost impossible. I had my neck fused in 2021 and I've got permanent nerve damage in my left arm and hand. Best wishes to you in your medical and musical journey.
It was great to hear from you and I'm glad you are doing better. Thanks for sharing! I almost exclusive play standing up as well; if you have a good strap it isn't bad and when my shoulder starts getting tired I know it is time for a break.
I was playing drums, waaaay too much. Also had tendinitis. I had to completely stop playing everything and switched to vocals, cause my body was falling apart, then the band just dissolved, so I tried rapping, but broke my neck before I could record anything and have been recording haphazardly while recovering. (I broke a vertibrae, no spinal cord damage) I couldnt play guitar or piano anymore, cause I had no feeling in my hands (couldnt draw for a whole year), drums was out of the questions and all I could was mumble, cause my jaw was so tensed up from supporting my neck. I still have incredible pain, can sometimes barely walk but somehow am getting by and getting better. Trained every day, even before I got injured, which likely saved my life now that I think about it. I'm still a disfigured mess, but I appreciate you sharing this :) I very much share the same sentiment. I'm glad you started to look after yourself and hope it only gets better from here!
I got tendonitis in both thumbs last year after getting super ill. Darkest time of my life but I'm now healing a lot more, PRP injections look promising, but honestly rest and relaxation is key, hot water and cold water on and off are also SUPER good, and good supplementation and things like eggs and collagen, supplements like glucosamine and vitamin C, things like Moringa leaf powder can help with the inflammation and pain. If I would have listened to certain physio therapists I would be screwed, I had some buddies that are massage therapists and they said rest and nutrition and water are the most important thing since it's an overuse injury and stretching can often times make it worse. Tendons take longer to heal than bones!
I totally understand what you've been going through. I've been struggling with carpal tunnel syndrome for more than 2 years. Haven't seen the end of the tunnel yet :( I've tried every therapy there is but nothing helps with the crippling pain. Just using splint helps to damper the pain a bit but it's always there. I hardly play guitar this days which affects me mentally and physically. I'll continue the fight though. Keep it strong
Hyper-mobility I think is something that is under-understood/know about. It may only be a small percentage of people that get injuries, but for those that have had multi-factor pain for quite a long time it is something to look into, even if it doesn't seem like something that you have. It can sometimes be invisible or seem invisible. There is plenty of hope though, and for anyone interested in it or that has gained a diagnosis, I'd recommend seeing a specialist and someone that's able to talk about (and prescribe) medication/s as well (such as Low-Dose Naltrexone). Still have to look after your body but it makes it much easier when you understand things, and know that you can improve the ways of doing things.
I've tried all those things for pain as well. I promise, lots of dry sauna time and Epsom salts will be cheap and will let you be comfortable. Make sure you bring a half a gallon of water. I have tendinitis and sciatica and I botched the healing in a broken heal and I also have tried pain killers and smoking weed and the most beneficial things outside of like you said, stem cells and surgery, is sauna, Epsom salts. The sauna will also raise your heart rate and give you a work out without being too hard on your nerves and joints.
man, i'm really sorry to hear that you were in so much pain the entire time you were streaming for us. i'm really thankful you've gotten healthy, though. i know you'll continue on that path because of your love for music. cawcaw 🤙 and thank you for willing to be open about your struggles. keep kicking ass, hope to see you on the webs again soon!
Great video Claine. It really hit home for me. I had a similar situation with my fretting arm and also had neck and shoulder problems too. Was devastated as well when I had to stop playing. Wanted to see if you explored connections with your pain in shoulder and arm. I had a sports medicine doctor at Purdue suggest my neck, shoulder and wrist pain could all be connected in something called thoracic outlet syndrome. Might be worth exploring. Also I’ve been able to play a lot more within the past two years as I started wearing the compression sleeves that a lot of athletes wear. I live in them and they’ve helped immensely deal with pain and extended my playing time. Thanks for sharing your journey and trying to help others. I appreciate your commitment and passion and trying to see the good that has come out of it. You’re a motivation to us all to stay in the fight. 💪
Hi Claire. I have had some tendonitis problems in the past. The only advice I will give is the following (backed up by a friend who plays Hockey and Tennis and who also happens to be a total PC gamer). I generally use RUB-A-535 ointment on my arm on the area that is painful, and I wrap up my arm gently with a bandage, or some reusable sleeve. It keeps the A535 ointment inside for the duration. If the A-535 doesn't work, try Tiger Balm. I also massage my arm before any activity requiring manoeuvers and muscle movement and also after activities. I also do hand stretches while I massage my forearm. There are different strengths for the RUB-a-535 ointment. Whenever the pain starts I take a break. I've seen musicians use a stand for their feet when playing the guitar and changing positions.
As an artist and relatively handy person, I have had carpel tunnel now for over 6 years and it has been a BITCH. My right hand, mostly my thumb, index and ring finger go COMPLETELY NUMB. I was a digital artist mostely so I can relate to that posture of having your arms out clicking and having your arms resting on the edge of a desk....CUE incoming future damage. Over time it becomes painful. I totally get it in relation to your struggles with tendinitis. Gotta find those work arounds, breaks, exercises to help you get through your days. KEEP FIGHTING AND BATTLE it head on \m/ \m/
I am so sorry you have to deal with such pain in order to do what you love. Your videos have brought me joy and I had no idea you were struggling while doing them.
See if you can find yourself a physio that specializes in hand therapy, not sure what your insurance situation is like, but someone that understands what playing guitar entails will at least help reduce the pain. Also getting "good" technique could potential alleviate any misaligned ergonomics that contribute to your tendonitis/tendopathy. All in all, it sucks, but it can get better. First time viewer but this is something that resonates with a lot of people. Wish you the best.
I love that you're doing this!!! This was recommended to me, I thought you were talking about a band. Thanks for doing this! Edit: Just got towards the end of the video and wanted to say that this was very empowering to me. I am interested in getting lessons for singing and other instruments (mainly to have an understanding of what fits and how to get my vision out there) thank you.
Thank you for sharing your story. I needed to hear what you had to say and feel like I'm in the same boat. hurt my wrist a couple days ago and had to tell my band I need to take a few weeks to let things heal and ease back into things. Really plays with your head when you hit that point.
Claire, hot damn, that was an emotional video, thank you so much for sharing! You make incredibly important points. Playing through pain is not a healthy long term strategy. In music school I threw a couple of discs in my back from using a footstool and I was locked in a practice room for a couple of hours until I was able to stand up again so I totally get where you're coming from. 18 years later I'm significantly stronger, have much better core strength to hold up my back properly and in terms of playing I'm back in the band that used to practice at my house and we're planning to take over the world! :) If you ask around, all the greats probably have a story something like this. They didn't get to where they are because everything just worked out, they made mistakes but they learned from them and got the help as well as put the work in to go beyond their challenges. I'm sure Dean has had a number of things go on even though he's so ridiculously capable. There's a reason he picks and fingers the way he does. There's a reason for the instruments and the string gauge and the picks, it all adds up to the right instrument for your own body, not what anybody else uses. A professional needs to be in tip top shape and have their equipment fine tuned for them to work like a well oiled machine. You got this! Side note, I know Dean's on tour but are you going to NAMM? Cheers!
i use to get bad pains in my left wrist. there was 2 things that caused it. 1 working in an office doing fast typing then going home and playing guitar (thankfully i dont do that job any more) . and 2 it turned out i was bending my wrist when playing too much. i changed my positioning so there was no or very little bends in both wrists so the tendons move freely and that seemed to help a lot. i hope things settle down for your pains and you get to play guitar again.
Wish you all the best! When it comes to videos and streaming, not that its #1 priority, we all enjoy the guitar playing but we also enjoy the fun conversations on stream and the banter in your videos. Its the main reason a lot of us keep coming back to your channel and Dean's Channel, you two are hilarious. Your health and well being comes first, but if you were to ever make videos and stream again, we would all be fine with just streaming listening to cool music or videos on why X album rules or whatever. No one would want to see the streams and videos at the expense of your health. You can really tell music and guitar playing is your passion, I sincerely hope you have a quick and full recovery!
I needed to hear all of this, thank you. I relate so much to everything you’ve said. Been going through shoulder pain for the past year and wrist pain the past few weeks. Its to the point now that I’ve had to stop playing for days at a time to give myself a rest. I’ve been working out as well and go through the same thing, consistent for a few weeks, then push my shoulder too far and get depressed about not being able to keep going. Now adding the wrist pain, for the first time in my life I’m worried about if I’m going to be able to keep playing. Trying my best to take care of myself but it’s easy to feel down when I can’t do the thing that makes me happiest. As you said though, have to be strong and keep trying to get better so we can keep on doing what we love! ❤ wishing you luck!
Thank you for sharing and I'm so sorry you've been going through that. Please take care of yourself and listen to your body. I hope you find some things that provide genuine relief and you allow yourself rest so that you will be able to continue doing what you love 🖤
Great video! I injured my right hand just over working as a cook. I would Speedrun MegaMan Legends too, had to give that up but at least I got good times. I mostly play djenty stuff on a 6 string, really loose tension strings and use very thin picks. Really simple stuff that's easy on my hands. I mix stuff quickly so that I'm not constantly on the computer which does make my hand flare up. I picked up drawing and I can draw for hours without any fatigue, I'm really grateful for that. Thanks for the healthy advice! Take care of yourself everyone!
I'm so glad someone is talking about this, which reminds me I'm not the only one dealing with this. I started playing guitar after wanting to since i was 14 when i was 23. I played so much and i had the absolute best 3 years of my life until. . .... I got hit by electricity and it led me down the road of seeing a doctor and finding out i have carpal tunnel syndrome in both my hands... And it absolutely wrecked me harder than anything. My already bad mental health got so much worse... I developed mental disorders that still effect me so much, i still play guitar but it scares me so much every time i do and i don't play as much. It seriously made me consider ending it many times.
I'm so sorry you're going through that. Truly the mental side of these injuries is so much worse and so much more difficult than the physical pain. Please know that you are loved, and you are not alone. It's so hard but we struggle together 🖤 Good luck with everything and I truly hope you find some relief 🖤
Truly wise words no joke. I'm a beginner 'since I was 14 and it's fine this way. In the last years I'm enjoying way much more (or at least happens way often) to play electric guitar unplugged. I don't know if others use to play this way but I play the same stuff I would with the amp and distorsion but...without
super important video claine! i have a feeling that i'll point a lot of people to this vid in the future. we don't talk enough about how easy it is to hurt ourselves playing crazy shit.
Thank you for sharing this. During peak Covid I got obsessed with "getting better at metal" and started practicing 4 hours/day without any sort of appropriate lead up to it. I developed something resembling tendinitis in my fretting hand thumb and getting a cool new guitar with a very thin neck and a flat fretboard radius seemed to make it even worse. It lingers to this day two years later but somewhat similar to what you talk about here regarding diversifying interests, I went back to playing a bit less and playing more jazz on my Gibson guitar with a "baseball bat" neck profile and I can tolerate that much better. It also has made me really audit my technique and posture and I think these things are improving slowly along with the problem itself, but more than that it's just so good to actually be able to play again. Like you've said, the longevity and joy are the point!
@@ClainesWorld Thanks so much! Sorry to hear about yours as well but it's great to see that you have developed an approach that seems really promising and positive. If this comment field is any indication this is a common and important issue for guitarists and musicians and even if painful, sharing your experience helps all of us.
Sorry to hear about your struggles. I am dealing with a yet to be understood issue with my elbows. Progressively gets worse and, like you, threw a dart at the wall for any and all treatments with no improvements. Will definitely check back to see, if you end up going the stem cell approach, how that worked for you. 🤘🤘
I've had similar issues, and what I will say is that I trained to use the mouse with my left hand instead to give myself some life in the interim (using a left- handed ergonomic mouse mind you). It was surprisingly quick to train my brain to use my left hand instead - that way you can still use the computer to make music pain-free, its worth the effort honestly.
Being a content creator and musician sucks since we sit most of the time during the day. Practicing guitar, editing video, mixing audio, working in general and playing video games. I actually experienced similar things while I was working a full time day job. Luckily the only thing that's coming back here and there is the back issue and some neck issues. However, going to the gym 3-6 days a week has helped immensely + most important thing a good night sleep on a good and firm bed. I hope you get better really soon and hopefully this thing goes away completely or mostly - fingers crossed!!!! Also, these were the things I had to do to get rid of most of the pain and issues: 1. I've quit my job where I was sitting 9 hours a day clicking on shitty excel sheets and servers. 2. I've ordered a metallic hand brace for my right hand which I use till this day if I am editing drums, videos, audio etc... 3. Went to a physio for 3 months weekly. Not sure if that helps to anyone - but getting active and moving is the most important thing to counteract all the sitting we do daily.... Best whishes and sending all the positive energy from Galway, Ireland!!!!
Both of my hands have tendonitis and carpal tunnel from playing keyboards. I can't play any where near the level I used to. Fortunately today's technology allows me to continue to compose and produce my own music which was my first passion. Great video!
That's been my story down to a T. Was always pretty good at keeping active and consistently playing but after awhile things take their toll. I was getting it really bad in my left forearm from my wrist to my elbow. I have it in my right wrist the worse but it doesn't bother me playing. I as well had to stop working out and it's definitely depressing as hell. Gotta know when to take it easy. I got back I to working out and it's definitely helped, just gotta listen to your body. Worst thing for me is I've always liked a fairly heavy gauge and had to go lighter for awhile. Playing with heavier strings lately just fine! There's a series of great videos on UA-cam titled something along the lines of treating guitar tendonitis that really helped me out when I had it really bad. Looks like it's an older video from a middle aged dude. Hope you manage well! STAY TECH🤘🏻
Thanks for sharing. Dealing with tendinitis and Crohns. Safe to say it destroyed my self esteem, makes playing so hard at times. But we're here, talking about. I'm getting physical and mental therapy, I'm eating right and I feel some change. Get better y'all!
I put some of this in another video, the one about playing live for the 1st time with your new band. Your story is very similar to a guitarist of a band I follow from Japan. The guitarist is Yukimura Shiren" Hirano, he started of learning piano, when he was 7, and then moved on to Guitar in his early teens. He went to the Tokyo College of Music, playing guitar, and when he was 16 was voted the most exciting prospect for guitar, for that year. After he left he was in a few bands, then in 2016 he picked up Tendinitis, it may have been down to doing 5-6 full albums, and touring the the bands to promote the albums the year before, he normally did 3 a year. Music was his life, he did not know how to do anything else, and now he was looking at having to give up music. So he gave up all the bands he was in, apart from the one he had started, and fond a way he could play. He got himself a Strandberg (headless) as it had less weight to it, he also got a stand for it so he could practice, so there was no weight at all, also he could adjust the height of the stand, so he could sit downd while playing. He also played live, while using in. He is now getting better, so does not have to use it for the full show, the shows are around 1 1/2 hours. There is also a cut out in the Strandberg on the body, so if he is carrying it, he can rest the guitar on his leg, with his leg on a monitor. He said it was difficult to get used to playing with a guitar on a stand, but he is now used to it. Here is a live video of him playing with the guitar on the stand ua-cam.com/video/5oHPCQucm3U/v-deo.html As for myself, I got Tendinitis when I was 20, and yes it is all about learning to manage the illness. I am 60 now, and have not had any problems now, for the last 15-20 years. But it's still in the back of my mind, and I'm really careful about how I use that arm, as I do not want that pain to come back.
Omg we're so much alike there's so much you discussed here and geez honestly I can totally relate to alot of your personal and physical pains over the years I've gone through some similar and or crazy shit !!!! From a spider bite to my right hand back in 2009 which I couldn't play for two years because of nerve damage and necrosis ....but I eventually got into playing a little....last year I was In a pretty bad car accident which destroyed my car and I dislocated my left shoulder and blew out my elbow real bad....6 months of physical therapy later and of course I couldn't play guitar for a year ....I recently around January 2023 started playing again on a serious level as far as practicing and I practice 5-7 times a week even after my 13 hour work days ( I work in a manufacturing factory) but since January I've bought 3 Ibanez's, 2 Mitchell ms450's, Epiphone Les Paul, Jackson, a Harley Benton pro 1, and 2 beautiful acoustic guitars in which I never play LOL😂😂😂😂😂😂😂LOL!!!! BUT it's just me no kids no family no friends no girlfriend (anymore)😔😔😔....I've just discovered your channel here and am just completely into listening to you talk about all these things .I think your totally frickin awesome ❤❤❤and I wish I could meet a cool chick like you to just bounce off each other's energy's while practicing and creating some really serious badass dark fucking music!!!!!! I listen to a huge variety of different music from Motown to blistering death metal !!!!! That horror movie dark electronic music you for is really cool I like this kind of music as well ....as long as it's dark and gloomy I love it lol.....have you ever listened to GGFH or Haus arafna before?? Absolutely the sickest darkest weirdest heaviest shit I've found so far !!! 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
I’ve been playing guitar for two years now and i’m a bit afraid now. I don’t experience any pain while practicing and and go around 24 hrs between sessions (about an hour every day). I play lots of Gojira, and recently any 7-string stuff i want to learn. But lots of alternate picking, gallops all from the wrist. My pose seems fine when i look at recordings of myself playing. But i shall be even more careful from now on, and work out more. This was a really eye opening video. I don’t have any virtuoistic ambitions or anything, but this seems like it can happen to anyone reckless enough.
Love yourself so you can continue to love music 🖤
That love of music and especially playing it is slipping away day by day for me. I’m 43 and have been playing guitar for 30 years and drums for 33 years. I have the same taste of music that you have as well as bands that I’m a fan of (Big Deicide fan). All of a sudden out of nowhere I started getting bad migraines/cluster headaches last month. I have them every single day with no break. I went to the hospital and had a CT Scan which came back normal. I don’t have a history of migraines either. All the migraine medicines that people are normally subscribed do nothing at all. I’ve took the root of trying Psilocybin micro dosing. THC, etc which nothing is working. I’m not going to give up trying to find out what’s causing this to all of a sudden start happening. I can handle sporadic migraines but not every single day with no end in sight. Things that I love so much are slipping away. This isn’t one of those situations where a person can just suck it up, be a man, and don’t let it bother you. It’s very debilitating. I love your outlook on things. Especially when you are like “Don’t sit around and watch UA-cam all day!” Basically saying stop wasting time always watching what everyone else is creating and create something awesome yourself. I’m not expecting pity or some kind of magic answer to my situation. I just wanted to share my situation with someone with an open mind. I don’t know you personally but from what I’ve gathered through watching and listening to you that you have a very respectable original head on your shoulders. You create, play, and share your music for all the right reasons. The way you get so pumped up after creating an awesome guitar riff gives other people the drive to create and share as well. Thank you for sharing parts of your musical odyssey with us.
@@bultronlagore4932 Thank you for sharing your story and all the kind words. I'm so sorry to hear about what you've been going through. I'm not sure what tests you've done already but I randomly got some awful chronic migraines out of nowhere several years ago and nothing was working until I finally got in to see a neurologist who thought I might have long-term medication overuse headaches. Which was the culprit as I had been taking painkillers quite consistently for my general stomach issues, cramps, and back pain for many, many years. He got me on some sort of medication to reset my brain chemistry and it helped sooooo much. I have no idea what you're going through but just wanted to share that in case it's something the doctors haven't looked into yet. I truly hope you find some relief asap!! Good luck 🖤
@@ClainesWorld Thank you for taking the time to read my comment and reply. Do you know what the reset medication was called? I have an appointment with a Neurologist but it’s not for another month. I’m so glad you got your migraine issue solved. I swear we are having a migraine pandemic and I wonder if people from ages past also suffered from migraines close to the same scale. Something tells me the introduction to certain technologies may be the culprit for most.
Awesome story in that I hope that it helps you as much as you want to help others. Mad props. Also.. love that shirt. 🤘🏼
Edit.. Im seeing Canadian Mr. Cleans band in a little over a month. Love to shake his hand, and was curious if you'd be able to make that trip, if if you have any interest in that? If yes, I'd absolutely pick up your plane ticket. If not, no worries. I appreciate you both no matter what.
@@ClainesWorld found out today after an MRI with Dye injection Contrast that the reason I’m having the migraines everyday is due to Spinal fluid leakage from the back surgery I had last month. I’m actually very happy about this because now I know the trigger. I’m already scheduled for repair surgery next Wednesday so hopefully when I awake from the surgeries anesthesia I will also be awaking from a nightmare finally. Thanks again for taking the time to read my comments and reply. Cheers 🍻
I really resonate with the closing message of this video. People really need to LISTEN TO THEIR BODIES. My mom is in chronic pain and absolutely will not stop doing stuff that causes her pain. Her mindset is so focused on productivity that it's at the expense of her health and, as much as I try to tell her to rest, she just refuses to listen. I'm happy to see that you're making better choices for your health and not letting your inner demons own you. Mad respect to you o7
As someone who’s been playing in /toured in hardcore/metal bands for over a decade and works out often, I developed tendonitis in my right elbow a few years ago finally and it’s been not a fun time.
Rehab and injury specific exercises have helped, but it’s definitely a depressing thing to deal with.
Thanks for sharing your story with your experience, it’s nice to know there’s a lot of people dealing with the same thing I deal with.
I'm so sorry you've been dealing with that. I hope your pain goes away asap 🖤
@@ClainesWorld and if not, we can find a way to cope with the pain, and make peaces with it. Take care people
I had tendinitis in my arm near my elbow (which sounds like something similar to yours) when I was 16 because I was playing a ton of guitar and i was using my whole arm for tremolo picking. It actually forced me to learn the correct technique because using *any* amount of tension in my arm would result in a piercing pain, so it acted as a guide to show me the way to "effortless" tremolo picking, which I've used ever since (if anyone's interested, I have a couple of videos on my channel). Thankfully, I was younger and I think that helped out with the recovery since it only lasted for a couple of weeks as far as I can remember.
Thanks for sharing your story!
I’ve been dealing with Tendinitis for 4 months now, and this video has been inspiring for me! I’m one of the guitar players in my band, and my bandmates have missed me. I’ve been listening to my body and not pushing anything in order to heal as best as I can. Music has been the biggest part of my life for over 12 years now, and it’s been hard not to play, write, or practice guitar. I’m finally starting to heal thanks to a cortisone shot I had injected recently, but I can’t play for hours on end like I used to, because I can feel my body telling me, “You better stop or you’re gonna go right back to square one” around the 45 minute mark. Thank you for telling your story, Claire. I really needed this video, and I hope that this reaches more people in our same position.
Been and am still partly in a similar situation. 2,5 years of combined tendinitis, golfer's elbow and probably something else. The only thing that truly helped me was rest and exercises. As yourself I used to be a very stressed and anxious person throughout my life and I realized that one of the key components of truly healing physically is to have a clean psyche, which is something not that many people pay attention to in this current, western world. What really helped me was a spiritual cleansing with meditation and letting go of all stress/tension inducing beliefs. Only then I started realizing that when my body doesn't tense up instinctually, the tendons can actually rest.
Stressed mind and soul produce so much unconscious tension that to be finally relieved of this for the first time in life, gives a feeling similar to Plato's cave.
Hope you find this information, psychedelics are also a good place to start restructuring your psyche if you keep an open mind
I wish you all the best on your journey toward healing
It's nuts that you can find the positives from such a tough experience. When your body fails you and stops you from doing the things you love it's so easy to get down and just give up on things. It's hella admirable to just keep finding new paths to keep going and try new things. Much love, keep it going!
Thank you so much buddy!🖤 I definitely haven't had a positive outlook most of this time, it was pretty friggin bleak for a lot of it haha. I'm glad that I'm able to see some positives in it now but I definitely still have days where it brings me down hard
@Claine's World I can imagine, I'm sure it feels like something is being stolen from you at times. But it's good to see you can appreciate how it's made you go down other paths and try things you maybe wouldn't have focused on otherwise.
Not tendinitis, but for years I struggled with Carpal Tunnel on my fretting hand and it absolutely wrecked me mentally (and of course physically. It also prevented things in my normally active lifestyle) and my heart goes out to any musician dealing with anything that gets in the way of their playing and passion. I've since had surgery which took care of about 80% of it, but the silver lining was I had to go back to the woodshed and fix my technique to be as easy on my fingers and hands as possible.
Thanks for opening up on this topic, and I'm so with you with raising awareness on things like these. You (and Dean) rule. Here's to us all staying pain free, or recovering, and of course enjoying our instruments.
I'm so sorry for your struggles. I'm glad it made you go back and refine your technique though :). Thank you for sharing, I hope you manage to stay pain free 🖤!
Same injury on the same hand here. It's been a nightmare . Same struggle mentally and physically, it cripples you in so many different ways. Really hope you get through it and get well soon.
ive just had surgery on both hands and its been three months now with only about 70% recovery but way better, i couldn't even hold a pick for six months,which was the most dark days of my life, i can play again ,but i have to make a decision about my day job, either continue with a well paying gig or music, i chose the later and im still into my recovery and hope to recover at least to 90% which will be a blessing to me
carpal tunnel is the worst for any musician, please take care of you hands people!
I've had tendinitis in my thumbs, effects lasted for years. Really cool that you are sharing your story. So many musicians live with the pain from over-exercising.
Sorry for your struggles 🖤
@@ClainesWorld I did some camera work for a famous Australian concert pianist. He worked out a method to avoid injury from playing piano two hours per day. It was way back in 1992, so I forgot his name, but he had to retire early from terrible pain in his hands. Acupuncture (which my Taiwanese neighbour provided) gave him temporary relief - enough to have his demonstrations filmed. That was back in Cape Town, South Africa, so I will ask my parents for details, if they remember better than me.
I really appreciate this video, as someone that was having back pains for the past 10 years or so I only recently got correctly diagnosed on what was actually wrong with my back. that being spinal stenosis and degenerative disc disease. I always loved playing really weighty guitars and as that went on it made my back worse. I've been really depressed these past few years because I would play for about 20-30 minutes and my back would be howling so it got to the point where I sold my guitars because I just felt so bad that I couldn't play them. looking into buying super light guitars since my back is getting better now with steroid injections in my back about 4 times a year and doing exercises. I never wanted to quit but I was doing what you did and played through the pain until I couldn't handle it anymore.
thank you for this video and I hope that you get better 💜
I’ve had/have both tendinitis in my wrist and tennis elbow from playing since I was 19(I’m well into my 30’s now). What helped and continues to help me keep on playing is lifting weights. Specifically with compound movements such as barbell rows; it doesn’t stress the pain points because it includes and builds supporting muscles. Pair this with deep message therapy in said pain points(with proper rest) and it becomes much more manageable(almost gone in my case).
5 months late to this one, but fuckit. This is so much like my experience. I'm also in my 30s and had severe tendinitis in my picking arm. It was absolutely crushing physically and mentally because I so badly wanted to play but couldn't. Doctors were a total waste of time. Eventually I decided to figure it out for myself. 3 things combined have almost completely eliminated it within a year. Lifting weights, deep tissue massage and altering my picking technique. A healthy diet really helps too.
Thanks for sharing your story! Very much appreciated. I struggle every day with several injuries and hard as fuck pain in my body.
Computer based music has helped me for a while, but it already hurts too. Had this conditions for 10 years now. Hang in there people. Stretch, keep doing your research and trying new strategies. I really hope that we all will be okay. Big hug from Argentina
Ive had tendinitis for about a year in my picking arm, specifically my elbow, wearing a compression sleeve helps, and making sure to warm up and then wait like 20 minutes before actually playing has helped me personally.
I'm sorry for your struggles! 🖤
@@ClainesWorld lol, you work on your struggles before feeling bad about mine. But thanks, hopefully you can get the stem cell done sooner than later.
Second this, compression sleeves and even a sweat-band (or both) can help massively, also helps you to stay relaxed and helps to keep you in touch with the use of muscles/gives you more control. Haven't been back into guitar yet, but it can help massively with pain like that, including joint pain and other types/locations, even in day-to-day stuff or anything strenuous, and I'd imagine make it more likely that you're going to have minimal pain when you do play (as you're not straining it at other times).
@@necroticpoison exactly, it definitely helps get rid of unnecessary muscle work. I use a elbow compression sleeve, and it does wonders, it makes me use my wrist as opposed to my whole arm, which greatly extends how long i can play before any serious pain.
Thank you, stay strong, and all the best. Had an episode of bad shoulder and bad finger a few years ago, but luckily got it under control. Totally with you: listen to your body, work out, stay healthy for the music.
thanks for talking about this, I have a similar problem I've never told anyone about. I've kind of just played through the pain, but now its catching up and I need to get medical help for sure.
Hey Claine,
I'm from Van too! Hope to see you guys in person one day :)
I've had this exact issue and after many many months if not years trying to fix it, finally one major change that helped me was that - I know it sounds so random/irrelevant - I stopped eating peanut butter and any and all vegetable oils.
Turns out these two create a massive chemical imbalance in your body that damages your joints over time + cause/intensify inflammation! Specially if you already have a not-so-ideal posture/habit. Our body has an amazing ability to heal itself when we sleep. If the healing is interrupted, it starts to pile up and becomes a chronic issue.
Give it a try, I'm sure you will see a very noticeable improvement in a short amount of time.
Let the METAL flow.. 🤘
Good video. Thanks for being honest. I dated a woman not too long ago that was going through tendinitis in both hands. It was sad seeing her break down having issues turning knobs and not being able to get through the process to have the surgery she needed. I’m not with her anymore so I don’t know how everything turned out but I hope she got her surgeries and is living a better life now. ❤️
Glad to see you keeping on pushing forward despite the pain. rooting for you!
I broke my primary thumb and am on month 5 of healing, I haven't been able to play drums since. I now have a great and new appreciation for my health haha. Cheers! 🤘🤘
I feel ya. Been about 20 yrs of struggling off and on, mostly on, with neck, elbow, and especially wrist, and hand pain. Stretching, exercise, various looks at ergonomics, and a better diet help to some degree. It can be a constant, shitty struggle, but keep your head up!
Good luck Claire and all suffering with this stuff :)
I'm so sorry for your struggles, I hope you get some permanent "pain off" time ASAP 🖤🙏
I was on the road when I realized my hands would go so numb that I couldn't tell if the pick was between my fingers. The worst time of my life. It's extremely disheartening when you're at the peak of your career and something so detrimental comes between you and success.
I got De Quervain's tenosynovitis last year from working as a retread technician and I went through a massive depressive spiral last year from it, I managed to heal up enough to finally play guitar and play with my band again, I still get pains here and there but I don't push myself and just listen to my body closer than before. Hearing your story and experience makes me feel less alone
I'm so sorry to hear that. But I'm really glad you were able to heal. May you heal even more and may your pain stay away! 🖤
I wonder if I have that...
It’s good to see people talking about this kind of thing.
I’m only a hobbyist guitarist but I also work on a computer all day for my day job and RSI pain has affected both things. I hope I can resolve it but for now I’ve resigned myself to the fact I probably won’t be able to play as fast or technical stuff in future, and it’s hard for me to play enough to even be able to play a covers gig every now and then.
I do still get some enjoyment from playing slower stuff and doing things like composing classical music using sampling libraries.
I wish so much that I paid more attention to practising/working healthy when I was younger though.
Thanks for sharing your story!
I had issues with tendinitis when I was a drummer. I learned that, by far the two biggest difference makers are:
1) Be in good shape (regular strength training, regular power training, regular cardio, and don't be overweight)
2) Always warm up properly, and when I say properly I mean it can easily take 30+ minutes before you even begin to look at any exercises
The downside with this reality is that it's just not feasible for some people. Depending on your life circumstances (family, working hours, fatigue) it can be absolutely impossible to devote 6+ hours per week to exercise and another several hours to warming up before even trying to think of improving on the guitar, not to mention the immense impact on motivation. But if you do get there you'll be much healthier and happier.
Thank you for sharing. I'm sorry you've had to deal with pain but I'm very glad you found a solution 🖤
For years I've been meaning to produce a video about the only stretching excercises that helped me. This video and all the comments put fuel back on that fire. Thanks for reminding me that I still have a datum or two that I can contribute.
Yea you should! I've also been meaning to do an update and go over all the stuff that helps me :)
Man you really spoke to me throughout this entire video. I've been dealing with all the same issues with my fretting wrist and hand. I wound up going from 8 string back to 6 which I haven't played in 15 years or more. I had my second child this year and realized playing in two bands was a huge stress inducer so I am taking a break for a few years and just working on my playing. Anyway I really appreciate you posting this and I hope to see you doing what you love soon. Miss hanging out with you on twitch you were one of the best.
Thank you so much 🖤
Please take care of yourself, you'll be able to get back to it eventually!! 🙏
I am 52 years old and not a musician but I have had problems with epicondylitis humeri radialis for years. As a teacher, I have to write a lot and gaming in the wrong position has made things extremely worse. Painkillers never helped and I've tried everything. Special support bandages, ointments, physiotherapy, occupational therapy, acupuncture and even shock wave therapy at the end. The only thing that helped for a while were cortisone injections. When these failed as well, i was physically and mentally exhausted. I haven't been able to sleep through the night for months and was waking up 7-10 times a night from excruciating pain. I could only bend my right elbow up to 100 degrees, which meant I had to do everything with my left hand. Having suffered from depression for over 12 years, I ended up in really serious trouble. Finally, my doctor sent me for an MRI scan, which revealed that my elbow tendon was severely damaged. The only option was surgery. In fact, my right elbow got better over time, but the overload was too much for my untrained left elbow. 2 years after the first surgery i needed one on my left elbow. Through the experience with my right arm, I no longer waited so long that it became unbearable. In the meantime, I can use both arms again up to 80% and if I do my occupational therapy exercises, I feel quite well. I can fully do my job as a teacher again. Since you are much younger, if you stick to your exercises, you will definitely be able to get everything under control. 🤗💜
Hi Claine, thank you so much for sharing. It brought a tear to my eye. I have carpal tunnel from playing guitar and animating. I really resonated with alot of what you said. And through it all I've learned to listen to my body and to be kinder to myself. We should be our own biggest fans and love ourselves. Without self love we can't improve. I always try to remember that the fact I can draw and play guitar in general is a huge accomplishment. Thanks for sharing your story.
Thank you for the kind words and thank you for sharing your story. I'm sorry you're going through that but I hope you continue to find relief as you continue to take care of yourself 🖤
I also suffer from tendinitis. I've got it down to almost unnoticeable by smoking lots of weed, spending lots of time in the dry sauna, an hour a week split into 3 sessions will do wonders for your arms. And lastly Epsom salts. I use 3 cups per bath. That's enough to make your arms float in the tub. Try to sit there for 40 minutes. I play guitar at a high level and have bad tendinitis but this has been my remedy. For anybody else suffering please try my advice and feel free to ask any questions replying to this comment. Epsom salts baths twice a week and sauna at least once a week and you'll notice huge improvements on tendinitis.
You're beautiful and you've been beautiful. Never stop being YOU girl. I can't wait to see you move on. Take care of yourself and never let anyone push you too far. You got his.
100% fitness!!! I've had tendonitis in multiple spots like elbows, knees, and forearm for about 4 years now (also a metal drummer) and training/lifting smart and consise has made it so much more manageable. It comes and goes but training almost always puts it back in its place. You are on the right track!
I'm sorry to hear you've been going through all that, but I'm so glad you are managing it so well! I hope your pain fully fucks off ASAP lol 🖤
@@ClainesWorld tyyyyy likewise!!! 🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑
I needed to hear this.
Thank you Claire/Claine. All my hugs, and like, give Dean like a really deep and passionate kiss and tell him it was from me, a stranger on youtube.
hahaha sure thing 😅
so good to hear you talk so openly about this, loved the twitch and your channel and was wondering where you had gone (as i watch dean videos ) looking forward to hearing more music and honestly just seeing you having fun on the guitar.
thank you so much for making this video, i've actually started having pain in my back and right shoulder, and i can relate to a lot of what you said. this video might have saved me from developing tendonitis. Thank you!
Claine, you are the best part of Canada.
Thank you for your videos, music and energetic smile.
Thank you for sharing your story and for supporting other people.
You are that strong beautiful person who this world needs
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Awe 🥹🖤 Thank you so much for such a kind message!! 🙏
I don't have tendinitis but I do struggle with carple tunnel.
I started on bass but also play guitar, took piano lessons, and I am learning drums now. I was also a machinist for 8 years. It all adds up, my less than perfect technique, a job that is very hard on your hands and arms. I wish I could go back and do everything differently.
Idk what the best solution for me is going forward. I think it's great you're talking about this though people need to be more aware of things like this.
Musicians are athletes of fine motor skills and it's easier than most people realize to injure yourself in different ways that prevent or hinder your development. It goes even beyond just learning proper and ergonomic techniques, especially starting out it can be hard to take that stuff seriously. However a lot of times these injuries are not reversible.
I feel your pain and wish you and anyone else dealing with repetitive stress injuries the best of luck on finding a way to live with it or fix it if possible.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I've seen how tremendously hard it is to deal with life when your body fails you, since my twin brother had and still has similar issues. I wish you total recovery so that we can get more of the Dean and Claine dynamic duo lol
Thank you so much 🙏
I wish your brother all the best and I hope he is able to recover soon 🖤
Before I started playing guitar I acquired permanent lumbar damage in my lower spine, tendinitis in my neck, elbows and forearms and both my shoulders have rotator cuff issues. What I did was turn vegan and ate healthy, Ive spent years experimenting with stretches and yoga. Ive been playing guitar for over a year now and learning the most ergonomic way to play while eating anti-inflammatory foods has allowed me to enjoy playing for 20 min to an hour almost everyday. Everyday I have pain but I manage it very well with being self aware and stretching carefully throughout the day. Some days I rest and watch stuff when I feel like I shouldn’t do anything. Eventually you’ll find the best balance for yourself : ) have a great day!
I'm so sorry you've been going through that, but I'm really happy you've found things that work for you! I hope your pain continues to lessen until it's gone entirely! 🖤
I had tendonitis years ago from martial arts and didn't understand why it wouldn't go away especially since I was vegan. No matter what expensive treatments I had nothing helped until I finally gave up veganism and started eating low carb paleo style diet and the inflammation and tendonitis disappeared shortly after.
Finally got to watch your video. And i am so sorry you had to go through this basically half of your life and that the past two years were unbearable. I am glad you are coming slowly back. Can't wait to hear about your new band. Thank you for opening up
Thank you so much 🖤🖤🖤
Hey claine, your story is really touching for me. I have had chronic headaches since I was 6 or 7, being 19 now Its been a long journey of learning how to live with chronic pain. About 6 months ago I started learning guitar, and there have been many times when I just felt like giving up because doing basically anything other than lying in bed often makes my headaches worse. while I have found medication that can lessen my pain, its still something I live with every day. Hearing your story is hard because I love music and I know u do to, and not being able to do something your so passionate about is, to put it lightly, depressing. Not to mention the fact that chronic pain by itself is something truly awrfuI. think a lesser person than yourself would have given up at this point. But your drive to find a way to live the life u want to live inspires me to do the same. U rock!
I watched a video about drug abuse yesterday where they said: "A car accident doesn't happen when you hit the pole. It happens 200ft before, when you lose control and skid on the ice". That's a good thing to remember. We usually pay attention to problems, when the effects are already visible and unavoidable. That's asking for the problem to be a lot harder to solve. It's best doing at least SOME level of prevention to maybe avoid having any problem at all. Small things do matter.
sorry to hear of all the struggles. very interesting to hear your story. im sure this video will help other people. well done.
Thanks for sharing your pain and journey. Just be you, I bet most would tune in to streams if you just talked to your crows. Glad you are on the mend and are doing it how you want to do.
Missing Metal Mondays a lot but I really hope you power through this bud!! 🤗💚
Thanks bud I really miss them too! 🖤
Thank you for sharing your story. Something that has helped me with arm and shoulder fatigue is the CFG zero gravity guitar strap.
That was one of the realist videos ever. Thank you Claine. You rule bro.
Awe thank you so much dude! 🖤
Thank you so much for sharing your story Claine. I'm really happy to hear that your finding a new relationship with yourself, with music, and with metal again. Truly inspiring.
I've been drumming for a little over 30 years and the last couple of years my arm has been causing intense pain and I've been wondering if it's tendonitis or not. Now it hurts to even air drum, which just fuckin sucks. Having an exercise routine really resonates with me and it's definitely something I need to work on. Cause I also don't want to find myself pushing too hard and not being able to drum anymore or draw as well. Drawing has kinda taken the position of drumming cause of my living situation, but I could see how the injury could eventually interfere with that as well.
Thank you again, very excited for your journey and future.
Thanks for making this video, and more importantly, I want to remind you that you should CONSCIOUSLY, willingly, take pride in your progress you've made through all this. A common inner voice from trauma pressures us to never take stock of the fact that we have weathered super tough shit and to then reward ourselves with a little elevated self-respect, etc. It's good to work on not only noticing our bodily states (dissociation being the double-edged sword that it is), but also our psychological and habit-oriented wins.
You could do painting streams and vids and we would dig that. Relaxed streams where you sit around plants and crows, on and on. I hope you enjoy your exploration of all kinds.
Awesome words. I by myself been suffering from this since more than 10 years now in both arms. Stay strong Claine and keep the riffs coming.
I never really listened or read people's stories, I came to realization stories are really interesting. Thank you for sharing your story! and the title reminds me of Megadeth's The Sick, the Dying... and the Dead!
Thank you for watching/listening :) Haha I based the title off the Western movie but I like the Megadeth title too :P
@@ClainesWorld Ofcourse! I knew I recognized the title off of something else
I have a lot of pain in my hand, my arms/ shoulders when I play so I feel you... I've always played with good posture so I was intrigued as to why. I'm 26. Sometimes weed helps but degrades my writing and playing skills. Double edged blade for me. I play when I feel like it but enjoy it when I do!! Keep on trucking guys.
Your last 2 videos have gotten quite a viewer pop...so happy for you Claine
Over the years you'll see you're re-inventing yourself again and again. Each time a better version. Rock on.❤
Thanks for opening up like this. It's not easy to let people into this side of being a musician. We need to talk about it more.
BUT can we also talk about how "skill check" requests are super toxic in the streaming world? Cuz they are. Why can't you enjoy the vibe and what's being played. We aren't here to show you how fast we can plan, we are here to share music with you.
Thanks!
And yeaaa super toxic. Just in general, putting up videos and streaming, people are so ready to scrutinize and try to bring you down but we are here to share in the love of music and spread joy, not show off, where's the fun in that!
I'm glad I ran across this video! I'm 30 and have range of motion issues. Basically can't work out like I want and hand tingles while playing live sometimes but just trying to cautiously work through at my own pace. Better than an injury or giving up entirely. Keep it up!
My second guitar was a steel string guitar. I can concur, shit hurts until you develop callouses. If you're new, go for a classical guitar and save your fingers. Thanks for sharing your experience Claine, I hope you get it to a point where the tendonitis doesn't affect you as much.
Your transparency with your past and current struggles is admirable. Keep the PMA alive. YOU GOT THIS, CLAINE.
Thank you so much 🖤
Claine, thank you for speaking out on this topic. I have severe tendinitis in both arms from working as an electrician, and it totally changed how I played guitar and really fucked me up mentally. I am getting the proper treatment for it and now I am able to play guitar again. Switching to lighter gauge strings is a must. Chiropractic care can really help if you find a good one. If you have other chronic pain ask your doctor about Gabapentin or Lyrica, those are godsend meds for any kind of chronic pain (at least for me). I wish more musicians would speak out on this topic.
I'm so sorry for your pain. I'm glad you've found some relief, and I really hope your pain stays away permanently! Thanks for the suggestions 🖤
I'm very thankful that you share this. I will keep this story in my mind and will try to remember to take care of my body.
I've been having that same problem with tendinitis for over 30 years. I'll never forget the first time I experienced the tingling from the elbow and down to my pinky on my fretting hand. I just give myself breaks in playing for weeks at a time.
“Love yourself so you can love music.” Gonna write that somewhere where I can always see it
I relate to a lot of what you are saying. I also feel a need to always take on challenges way beyond my level, and I also have a lot of anxiety about performance or just about my current level of ability at everything, music, even at my day job in a completely unrelated field. I believe it's related to feelings of inadequacy and worthiness. I don't really know where I picked up the belief that I'm not ok just as I am, but it could be related to being a girl and always liking and wanting to do things that are typically seen as not for women. I'm still learning that I am worthy no matter how much I know or how well I can play guitar. It's a journey for sure, thanks for sharing yours.
Yea it's definitely a long and hard journey haha. I'm sorry you struggle with all that. Just wanna say that you're a fucking awesome person and you are 1000% worthy just as you are 🖤
I’m so, so proud of you for breaking away from the substance abuse.
You are smart, talented, funny and beautiful.
You are an absolute fucking gem amongst a sky studded with mediocre souls.
Please keep existing.
awww thank you so much, you're a fuckin gem! 🖤
I hope you find a medical solution to your problems. I also have a lot of injuries where playing guitar is almost impossible. I had my neck fused in 2021 and I've got permanent nerve damage in my left arm and hand. Best wishes to you in your medical and musical journey.
It was great to hear from you and I'm glad you are doing better. Thanks for sharing! I almost exclusive play standing up as well; if you have a good strap it isn't bad and when my shoulder starts getting tired I know it is time for a break.
I was playing drums, waaaay too much. Also had tendinitis. I had to completely stop playing everything and switched to vocals, cause my body was falling apart, then the band just dissolved, so I tried rapping, but broke my neck before I could record anything and have been recording haphazardly while recovering. (I broke a vertibrae, no spinal cord damage) I couldnt play guitar or piano anymore, cause I had no feeling in my hands (couldnt draw for a whole year), drums was out of the questions and all I could was mumble, cause my jaw was so tensed up from supporting my neck. I still have incredible pain, can sometimes barely walk but somehow am getting by and getting better. Trained every day, even before I got injured, which likely saved my life now that I think about it. I'm still a disfigured mess, but I appreciate you sharing this :) I very much share the same sentiment.
I'm glad you started to look after yourself and hope it only gets better from here!
Holy shit man I'm so sorry to hear all that. Thank you for sharing, and I hope you recover ASAP! Good luck on your healing and with your music 🖤
I got tendonitis in both thumbs last year after getting super ill. Darkest time of my life but I'm now healing a lot more, PRP injections look promising, but honestly rest and relaxation is key, hot water and cold water on and off are also SUPER good, and good supplementation and things like eggs and collagen, supplements like glucosamine and vitamin C, things like Moringa leaf powder can help with the inflammation and pain. If I would have listened to certain physio therapists I would be screwed, I had some buddies that are massage therapists and they said rest and nutrition and water are the most important thing since it's an overuse injury and stretching can often times make it worse. Tendons take longer to heal than bones!
I totally understand what you've been going through. I've been struggling with carpal tunnel syndrome for more than 2 years. Haven't seen the end of the tunnel yet :( I've tried every therapy there is but nothing helps with the crippling pain. Just using splint helps to damper the pain a bit but it's always there. I hardly play guitar this days which affects me mentally and physically. I'll continue the fight though. Keep it strong
Hyper-mobility I think is something that is under-understood/know about. It may only be a small percentage of people that get injuries, but for those that have had multi-factor pain for quite a long time it is something to look into, even if it doesn't seem like something that you have. It can sometimes be invisible or seem invisible. There is plenty of hope though, and for anyone interested in it or that has gained a diagnosis, I'd recommend seeing a specialist and someone that's able to talk about (and prescribe) medication/s as well (such as Low-Dose Naltrexone). Still have to look after your body but it makes it much easier when you understand things, and know that you can improve the ways of doing things.
I have scoliosis which leads to alot of shoulder and neck pain after practicing guitar. This video has been very helpful, and inspiring. Thank you!
Solidarity in scoliosis suffering! 😅✊I'm glad it's helped you though! Good luck
I've tried all those things for pain as well. I promise, lots of dry sauna time and Epsom salts will be cheap and will let you be comfortable. Make sure you bring a half a gallon of water. I have tendinitis and sciatica and I botched the healing in a broken heal and I also have tried pain killers and smoking weed and the most beneficial things outside of like you said, stem cells and surgery, is sauna, Epsom salts. The sauna will also raise your heart rate and give you a work out without being too hard on your nerves and joints.
man, i'm really sorry to hear that you were in so much pain the entire time you were streaming for us. i'm really thankful you've gotten healthy, though. i know you'll continue on that path because of your love for music. cawcaw 🤙 and thank you for willing to be open about your struggles. keep kicking ass, hope to see you on the webs again soon!
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Great video Claine. It really hit home for me. I had a similar situation with my fretting arm and also had neck and shoulder problems too. Was devastated as well when I had to stop playing. Wanted to see if you explored connections with your pain in shoulder and arm. I had a sports medicine doctor at Purdue suggest my neck, shoulder and wrist pain could all be connected in something called thoracic outlet syndrome. Might be worth exploring. Also I’ve been able to play a lot more within the past two years as I started wearing the compression sleeves that a lot of athletes wear. I live in them and they’ve helped immensely deal with pain and extended my playing time. Thanks for sharing your journey and trying to help others. I appreciate your commitment and passion and trying to see the good that has come out of it. You’re a motivation to us all to stay in the fight. 💪
Hi Claire. I have had some tendonitis problems in the past. The only advice I will give is the following (backed up by a friend who plays Hockey and Tennis and who also happens to be a total PC gamer). I generally use RUB-A-535 ointment on my arm on the area that is painful, and I wrap up my arm gently with a bandage, or some reusable sleeve. It keeps the A535 ointment inside for the duration. If the A-535 doesn't work, try Tiger Balm. I also massage my arm before any activity requiring manoeuvers and muscle movement and also after activities. I also do hand stretches while I massage my forearm. There are different strengths for the RUB-a-535 ointment. Whenever the pain starts I take a break. I've seen musicians use a stand for their feet when playing the guitar and changing positions.
Thank you for sharing, and I'm sorry you deal with that pain 🖤
As an artist and relatively handy person, I have had carpel tunnel now for over 6 years and it has been a BITCH. My right hand, mostly my thumb, index and ring finger go COMPLETELY NUMB. I was a digital artist mostely so I can relate to that posture of having your arms out clicking and having your arms resting on the edge of a desk....CUE incoming future damage. Over time it becomes painful. I totally get it in relation to your struggles with tendinitis. Gotta find those work arounds, breaks, exercises to help you get through your days. KEEP FIGHTING AND BATTLE it head on \m/ \m/
I am so sorry you have to deal with such pain in order to do what you love. Your videos have brought me joy and I had no idea you were struggling while doing them.
Thank you so much 🖤
See if you can find yourself a physio that specializes in hand therapy, not sure what your insurance situation is like, but someone that understands what playing guitar entails will at least help reduce the pain. Also getting "good" technique could potential alleviate any misaligned ergonomics that contribute to your tendonitis/tendopathy. All in all, it sucks, but it can get better. First time viewer but this is something that resonates with a lot of people. Wish you the best.
I love that you're doing this!!! This was recommended to me, I thought you were talking about a band. Thanks for doing this!
Edit: Just got towards the end of the video and wanted to say that this was very empowering to me. I am interested in getting lessons for singing and other instruments (mainly to have an understanding of what fits and how to get my vision out there) thank you.
Thank you for sharing your story. I needed to hear what you had to say and feel like I'm in the same boat. hurt my wrist a couple days ago and had to tell my band I need to take a few weeks to let things heal and ease back into things. Really plays with your head when you hit that point.
I'm sorry you're having pain but I'm so glad you listened to your body and are allowing yourself the rest that it needs 🖤
@@ClainesWorld Thank you and I hope you find something that works to permanently resolve your pain healthily.
@@Sollicitus_Band Thank you 🖤
Claire, hot damn, that was an emotional video, thank you so much for sharing!
You make incredibly important points. Playing through pain is not a healthy long term strategy. In music school I threw a couple of discs in my back from using a footstool and I was locked in a practice room for a couple of hours until I was able to stand up again so I totally get where you're coming from. 18 years later I'm significantly stronger, have much better core strength to hold up my back properly and in terms of playing I'm back in the band that used to practice at my house and we're planning to take over the world! :)
If you ask around, all the greats probably have a story something like this. They didn't get to where they are because everything just worked out, they made mistakes but they learned from them and got the help as well as put the work in to go beyond their challenges. I'm sure Dean has had a number of things go on even though he's so ridiculously capable. There's a reason he picks and fingers the way he does. There's a reason for the instruments and the string gauge and the picks, it all adds up to the right instrument for your own body, not what anybody else uses. A professional needs to be in tip top shape and have their equipment fine tuned for them to work like a well oiled machine. You got this!
Side note, I know Dean's on tour but are you going to NAMM? Cheers!
i use to get bad pains in my left wrist. there was 2 things that caused it. 1 working in an office doing fast typing then going home and playing guitar (thankfully i dont do that job any more) . and 2 it turned out i was bending my wrist when playing too much. i changed my positioning so there was no or very little bends in both wrists so the tendons move freely and that seemed to help a lot. i hope things settle down for your pains and you get to play guitar again.
You should just forget the pain, I feel you, I have constant neck pain because my neck is quite twisted, All the best for you! :)
Wish you all the best! When it comes to videos and streaming, not that its #1 priority, we all enjoy the guitar playing but we also enjoy the fun conversations on stream and the banter in your videos. Its the main reason a lot of us keep coming back to your channel and Dean's Channel, you two are hilarious. Your health and well being comes first, but if you were to ever make videos and stream again, we would all be fine with just streaming listening to cool music or videos on why X album rules or whatever. No one would want to see the streams and videos at the expense of your health. You can really tell music and guitar playing is your passion, I sincerely hope you have a quick and full recovery!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that 🖤
I needed to hear all of this, thank you. I relate so much to everything you’ve said. Been going through shoulder pain for the past year and wrist pain the past few weeks. Its to the point now that I’ve had to stop playing for days at a time to give myself a rest. I’ve been working out as well and go through the same thing, consistent for a few weeks, then push my shoulder too far and get depressed about not being able to keep going. Now adding the wrist pain, for the first time in my life I’m worried about if I’m going to be able to keep playing. Trying my best to take care of myself but it’s easy to feel down when I can’t do the thing that makes me happiest. As you said though, have to be strong and keep trying to get better so we can keep on doing what we love! ❤ wishing you luck!
Thank you for sharing and I'm so sorry you've been going through that. Please take care of yourself and listen to your body. I hope you find some things that provide genuine relief and you allow yourself rest so that you will be able to continue doing what you love 🖤
Great video! I injured my right hand just over working as a cook. I would Speedrun MegaMan Legends too, had to give that up but at least I got good times.
I mostly play djenty stuff on a 6 string, really loose tension strings and use very thin picks. Really simple stuff that's easy on my hands. I mix stuff quickly so that I'm not constantly on the computer which does make my hand flare up.
I picked up drawing and I can draw for hours without any fatigue, I'm really grateful for that.
Thanks for the healthy advice! Take care of yourself everyone!
I'm so glad someone is talking about this, which reminds me I'm not the only one dealing with this. I started playing guitar after wanting to since i was 14 when i was 23. I played so much and i had the absolute best 3 years of my life until. . .... I got hit by electricity and it led me down the road of seeing a doctor and finding out i have carpal tunnel syndrome in both my hands... And it absolutely wrecked me harder than anything. My already bad mental health got so much worse... I developed mental disorders that still effect me so much, i still play guitar but it scares me so much every time i do and i don't play as much. It seriously made me consider ending it many times.
I'm so sorry you're going through that. Truly the mental side of these injuries is so much worse and so much more difficult than the physical pain. Please know that you are loved, and you are not alone. It's so hard but we struggle together 🖤
Good luck with everything and I truly hope you find some relief 🖤
Truly wise words no joke. I'm a beginner 'since I was 14 and it's fine this way. In the last years I'm enjoying way much more (or at least happens way often) to play electric guitar unplugged. I don't know if others use to play this way but I play the same stuff I would with the amp and distorsion but...without
super important video claine! i have a feeling that i'll point a lot of people to this vid in the future. we don't talk enough about how easy it is to hurt ourselves playing crazy shit.
Thank you, and yes I agree we really need to talk about it more 🖤
Thank you for sharing this. During peak Covid I got obsessed with "getting better at metal" and started practicing 4 hours/day without any sort of appropriate lead up to it. I developed something resembling tendinitis in my fretting hand thumb and getting a cool new guitar with a very thin neck and a flat fretboard radius seemed to make it even worse. It lingers to this day two years later but somewhat similar to what you talk about here regarding diversifying interests, I went back to playing a bit less and playing more jazz on my Gibson guitar with a "baseball bat" neck profile and I can tolerate that much better. It also has made me really audit my technique and posture and I think these things are improving slowly along with the problem itself, but more than that it's just so good to actually be able to play again. Like you've said, the longevity and joy are the point!
I'm so sorry you've been dealing with that pain but I'm glad it led to some more exciting avenues for you and that you're back to playing! 🖤
@@ClainesWorld Thanks so much! Sorry to hear about yours as well but it's great to see that you have developed an approach that seems really promising and positive. If this comment field is any indication this is a common and important issue for guitarists and musicians and even if painful, sharing your experience helps all of us.
Sorry to hear about your struggles. I am dealing with a yet to be understood issue with my elbows. Progressively gets worse and, like you, threw a dart at the wall for any and all treatments with no improvements. Will definitely check back to see, if you end up going the stem cell approach, how that worked for you. 🤘🤘
I've had similar issues, and what I will say is that I trained to use the mouse with my left hand instead to give myself some life in the interim (using a left- handed ergonomic mouse mind you). It was surprisingly quick to train my brain to use my left hand instead - that way you can still use the computer to make music pain-free, its worth the effort honestly.
Being a content creator and musician sucks since we sit most of the time during the day. Practicing guitar, editing video, mixing audio, working in general and playing video games.
I actually experienced similar things while I was working a full time day job. Luckily the only thing that's coming back here and there is the back issue and some neck issues. However, going to the gym 3-6 days a week has helped immensely + most important thing a good night sleep on a good and firm bed.
I hope you get better really soon and hopefully this thing goes away completely or mostly - fingers crossed!!!!
Also, these were the things I had to do to get rid of most of the pain and issues:
1. I've quit my job where I was sitting 9 hours a day clicking on shitty excel sheets and servers.
2. I've ordered a metallic hand brace for my right hand which I use till this day if I am editing drums, videos, audio etc...
3. Went to a physio for 3 months weekly.
Not sure if that helps to anyone - but getting active and moving is the most important thing to counteract all the sitting we do daily....
Best whishes and sending all the positive energy from Galway, Ireland!!!!
Both of my hands have tendonitis and carpal tunnel from playing keyboards. I can't play any where near the level I used to. Fortunately today's technology allows me to continue to compose and produce my own music which was my first passion. Great video!
That's been my story down to a T. Was always pretty good at keeping active and consistently playing but after awhile things take their toll. I was getting it really bad in my left forearm from my wrist to my elbow. I have it in my right wrist the worse but it doesn't bother me playing. I as well had to stop working out and it's definitely depressing as hell. Gotta know when to take it easy. I got back I to working out and it's definitely helped, just gotta listen to your body. Worst thing for me is I've always liked a fairly heavy gauge and had to go lighter for awhile. Playing with heavier strings lately just fine! There's a series of great videos on UA-cam titled something along the lines of treating guitar tendonitis that really helped me out when I had it really bad. Looks like it's an older video from a middle aged dude. Hope you manage well!
STAY TECH🤘🏻
I just recently got tendinitis in my right wrist last year. It’s pretty awful. So thank you so much for making this video.
Thanks for sharing.
Dealing with tendinitis and Crohns. Safe to say it destroyed my self esteem, makes playing so hard at times.
But we're here, talking about. I'm getting physical and mental therapy, I'm eating right and I feel some change.
Get better y'all!
I'm so sorry for your struggles. I hope you find some genuine relief asap 🖤
I put some of this in another video, the one about playing live for the 1st time with your new band.
Your story is very similar to a guitarist of a band I follow from Japan. The guitarist is Yukimura Shiren" Hirano, he started of learning piano, when he was 7, and then moved on to Guitar in his early teens. He went to the Tokyo College of Music, playing guitar, and when he was 16 was voted the most exciting prospect for guitar, for that year. After he left he was in a few bands, then in 2016 he picked up Tendinitis, it may have been down to doing 5-6 full albums, and touring the the bands to promote the albums the year before, he normally did 3 a year.
Music was his life, he did not know how to do anything else, and now he was looking at having to give up music. So he gave up all the bands he was in, apart from the one he had started, and fond a way he could play. He got himself a Strandberg (headless) as it had less weight to it, he also got a stand for it so he could practice, so there was no weight at all, also he could adjust the height of the stand, so he could sit downd while playing. He also played live, while using in. He is now getting better, so does not have to use it for the full show, the shows are around 1 1/2 hours. There is also a cut out in the Strandberg on the body, so if he is carrying it, he can rest the guitar on his leg, with his leg on a monitor.
He said it was difficult to get used to playing with a guitar on a stand, but he is now used to it.
Here is a live video of him playing with the guitar on the stand ua-cam.com/video/5oHPCQucm3U/v-deo.html
As for myself, I got Tendinitis when I was 20, and yes it is all about learning to manage the illness. I am 60 now, and have not had any problems now, for the last 15-20 years. But it's still in the back of my mind, and I'm really careful about how I use that arm, as I do not want that pain to come back.
I’ve been such a massive fan of your channel for ages. I hope you keep feeling better and better. Best wishes from London
Thank you so much 🖤!!
Omg we're so much alike there's so much you discussed here and geez honestly I can totally relate to alot of your personal and physical pains over the years I've gone through some similar and or crazy shit !!!! From a spider bite to my right hand back in 2009 which I couldn't play for two years because of nerve damage and necrosis ....but I eventually got into playing a little....last year I was In a pretty bad car accident which destroyed my car and I dislocated my left shoulder and blew out my elbow real bad....6 months of physical therapy later and of course I couldn't play guitar for a year ....I recently around January 2023 started playing again on a serious level as far as practicing and I practice 5-7 times a week even after my 13 hour work days ( I work in a manufacturing factory) but since January I've bought 3 Ibanez's, 2 Mitchell ms450's, Epiphone Les Paul, Jackson, a Harley Benton pro 1, and 2 beautiful acoustic guitars in which I never play LOL😂😂😂😂😂😂😂LOL!!!! BUT it's just me no kids no family no friends no girlfriend (anymore)😔😔😔....I've just discovered your channel here and am just completely into listening to you talk about all these things .I think your totally frickin awesome ❤❤❤and I wish I could meet a cool chick like you to just bounce off each other's energy's while practicing and creating some really serious badass dark fucking music!!!!!! I listen to a huge variety of different music from Motown to blistering death metal !!!!! That horror movie dark electronic music you for is really cool I like this kind of music as well ....as long as it's dark and gloomy I love it lol.....have you ever listened to GGFH or Haus arafna before?? Absolutely the sickest darkest weirdest heaviest shit I've found so far !!! 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
I’ve been playing guitar for two years now and i’m a bit afraid now. I don’t experience any pain while practicing and and go around 24 hrs between sessions (about an hour every day). I play lots of Gojira, and recently any 7-string stuff i want to learn. But lots of alternate picking, gallops all from the wrist. My pose seems fine when i look at recordings of myself playing. But i shall be even more careful from now on, and work out more. This was a really eye opening video. I don’t have any virtuoistic ambitions or anything, but this seems like it can happen to anyone reckless enough.