@ Apollo Tsakiris Same mate. Used the Do 217 E-2 and E-4 extensively to grind German planes whiel doing 4.7 Ground RB matches. Those 1000 kg (2.204,62 lb) bombs work wonders against enemy armor.
I love them to pieces, especially the Js and Ns It is a shame they spawn on such a low altitude and even if they were to spawn higher, single engine fighters outperform them in every way
I mean, i have out turned other bombers, attackers and even some heavy fighters in the do217 e-1 (without bombs), so it can kind of stand their ground. And even when it can't, its just such a nice aircraft to fly.
What do you do with a flipped teammate What do you do with a flipped teammate What do you do with a flipped teammate Early in the game Way hay and upside do-own Way hay and upside do-own Way hay and upside do-own Early in the game Blow their belly with artillery Blow their belly with artillery Blow their belly with artillery Early in the game Chorus Jump in a bomber and dive on them Jump in a bomber and dive on them Jump in a bomber and dive on them Early in the game If anyone wants to add one more he s pleased to do so
*Somewhere, over Ladoga, in a Spitfire...* Pilot: *Spots Dornier flying away from him* Yes, the perfect prey! *Flies towards Dornier* Hahahaha, I have you now- *Dornier opens fire with tail gunner* Pilot: ...Ah...I forgot about that... *Gets “sent back to the hanger” in pieces*
I'm in love with Dornier as I am with Focke Wulf,Heinkel, Junkers, Arado , BV , Meser and V- 1 , V- 2 ......I need to get another house to place my Luftwaffe and B-17 F 1:48 ....oh even my fw 190 V -18 in 1:72....my Vasa 1:144 rebuilt in a Spanish Galleon ( very well done cause i do paint, I do study and I do love those XVI and XVII century ships)...
I'm not a gamer but it was interesting to know about the Dorniers. My perception was that after the original Do17 the JU88s seemed to be the " main plane." Even reading old RAF pilots and history authors' memoirs and accounts, Do217 variations are rarely mentioned - they always seemed to be intercepting 88s or 110s.
Its important to note that misidentification happened quite a lot, so you should not always trust a memoir with these things. That being said, its absolutely the case that the Luftwaffe relied more on Ju88s (around 2700 nightfighter variants built) and Bf110 (around 2800 nightfighter variants built) then Do217s (around 500 nightfighter variants built) when it comes to the nightfighter role
The Dornier Do 17 was sometimes referred to as the Fliegender Bleistift ("flying pencil"), it was popular among its crews due to its handling, especially at low altitude, which made the Do 17 harder to hit than other German bombers.
I remember winning a 1v3 with a do bomber (cant remember name) The 1st one got shot down by aaa 2nd one got crit The 3rd one gave up and landed and waited for me to shoot him than take off again (i guess) trying to kill me one last time failing miserably...
Uuh... I'm sorry? Where's the Do-335 portion of the family? Them boiz made a leap in aviation in itself! That's probably my go-to Dornier aircraft to fly if I need some quick SLs. The nose battery... It's just so, so perfect.
Dorniers were the only aircraft that bombed the island I live on during WW2. They blew up a bunch of tomato trucks that were mistaken for tanks. Crazier still, the local airline uses modern Dornier aircraft now.
Ok, so Do 335 is a Dornier. It is however, not part of this family. Messerschmitt made both Bf-109 and Bf-110, but they’re not the same family. Just like Hawker made the Hurricane and the Hunter, but they’re not the same family.
I use the Do-217 K-1 mainly for mixed battles. I got a 5 kill on a point with a couple 1000 kg bombs with it. Also, I find the K-1 double machine gun sticking out the front to be a more reliable forward gunner armament then the 20 mm cannon. But that may be just me.
The problem with the upward firing cannons was your target will come down. The last sight some German night fighter pilots saw was their victim crashing into them.
I have a question, where is the booster on the Mirage III C ? When I take the loadout with 2 magic and the matra (the one indicated on the devblog) there is no booster, same with aim 9 b and matra. Unless it is else where...
A) it's not the only one with this configuration (in the game it is but not irl) B) it. is. not. part. of. the. same. family. of. aircraft. Supermarine made the Spitfire and the Walrus. One is a biplane flying boat. The other is a monoplane fighter. TheY'rE oBviOUsLy fRoM ThE sAMe faMiLY. God every video they do on vehicles of a certain family people are like "but where is thing from the same manufacturer that is obviously not the same family hmmm?"
P-61 is a better pick by far lol. Amazing br, amazing turret, radar, 61mm effective thickness glass in the front of the cockpit making it really good in head on's, 4x 20mm's and a turret with 4x 50 cals! What more could you want!? (Also got a sick paint job!)
Special shout-out for the Do-335 anyone? ( I know it’s not really a mainstream Dornier aircraft during the war nor was it ever mass produced but it’s a Dornier nonetheless)
There is a correlation between 30s passenger aircraft and early wwii bombers exist, but it completely diffrent than the video suggests. Idea of a light, fast bomber was the logical conclusion drawn from the german strategy of combined forces working together in blitzkrieg. Such bomber would be ideal in short range operations, destroying enemy's infrastructure behind the front line(like transportation hubs or bigger troops and vehicle concentration points). During this time there were treaties, denying Germany right to have their own air force, or work on new military aircraft. So military aircraft producers divided to hide their new light bombers, under the facade of working on new passenger aircraft(not the other way around). Of course it was just in the early stages of Germany's road to war, later they just stopped caring about west's reaction. Just a little fun fact.
I know they probably won't check this but quite a few British Bombers did have ventral gunner positions including the Avro Lancaster B some an actual turret others a cut out either a Vickers 12.7mm or .303, There're posts on the forums asking for these turrets still hell the models ironically have these positions in game. Another thing still no Dornier Seaplanes like the Do.26, why none of these ntm the Do.217 with the Henschel guided bomb one did after all sink the Italian Battleship Rm Roma.
The changes to the Italian ground tree had such a big missed opportunity, an Italian Tiger H1. Maybe with unique paint so it wasn’t a literal copy paste like half the tree
Please fix the touch pad controls for PS4. Flying has become unplayable since we can’t pull any fast manoeuvres or react quickly enough in a dogfight + the sensitivity has been increased so high it’s near impossible to accurately aim at someone without swaying all over the place. Please fix
To me the Do 335 is my favorite, and I love flying boats so I Love the Do-24, cripes I could write a book on flying boats. But yes the Flying Pencil Do17 as it was called always looked beautiful.....I had forgotten about all the derivations!
I like using my N-1 in Sim, and am currently grinding through in E-2. Although I think my E-2 is cursed. I've only gotten back from target once and even then I had one engine out. And considering how often you don't get intercepted in sim?
I wish someone made a good documentary on this aircraft series. Used extensively in the Battle of Britain, I find it strange that it is all but ignored
That moment when you finally understand Squire's joke about "German night fighters playing music to disrupt British bomber formations".
A man of culture I see...
@@rwb5749 yeeeeeeeeeees
I don't remember where I heard this, could you tell me if it was a movie? or book? or series?
@@KazutoBlogch i think it's referring to schrage musik or something
i dont get it ( can anyone tell me? )
some of my bomber game be like
Me seeing a dornier: *PANIK*
Me realizing it's 7 km away: Kalm
Me zooming in seeing it's coming for me: *P A N I K*
Hahahaha you say word funny you funny man hahaha funny funny ahhahaha
Wtf is PANIK
P A N I X
Shame on them non meme peasants
I feel ya
It’s all fun and games till you actually have to face this thing on ground
Laughs in 20mm autocannon
True then Its just sad bcs they Are So weak
Mood
@Harli Baron Bye Bye bases, bye bye airfield :D
Alek Janowski that’s not even enough to get half of the af
Mighty 50 kg bombs
That bombs in WT are less capable than hand grenade in Enlisted.
Meanwhile Italian 100kg bomb when being dropped: I see no other God here, other than me
actually got a kill with it on a t95
A 50kg can be effective if you aim well
wdym, the B17A has 50kg bombs and I can get B1s and Churchill 1s
really? both are quite good lol
The Do-217 is the plane I used to grind tier 3, 4, and 5. It took me 3 months.
Thank you for this knowledge kind sir
@PBJMan
And which gamemode?
@ Apollo Tsakiris
Same mate. Used the Do 217 E-2 and E-4 extensively to grind German planes whiel doing 4.7 Ground RB matches. Those 1000 kg (2.204,62 lb) bombs work wonders against enemy armor.
did that with the Ju-288. It took me 1.
How? When I fly it, The Do 217 flies like a concrete block. The Ju 88 is much much better in turning and climbing
I love them to pieces, especially the Js and Ns
It is a shame they spawn on such a low altitude and even if they were to spawn higher, single engine fighters outperform them in every way
Yea of course do fighters perform better than small bombers
I mean, i have out turned other bombers, attackers and even some heavy fighters in the do217 e-1 (without bombs), so it can kind of stand their ground. And even when it can't, its just such a nice aircraft to fly.
Atleast we would get to attack the bombers for a lil while
Does anyone else see a bomber with offensive armament and use it like a fighter even though it handles like a rock? Sunderland moment right there
For the next shooting range: Do you have any tips on how to help a flipped teamate?
Artillery them!
What do you do with a flipped teammate
What do you do with a flipped teammate
What do you do with a flipped teammate
Early in the game
Way hay and upside do-own
Way hay and upside do-own
Way hay and upside do-own
Early in the game
Blow their belly with artillery
Blow their belly with artillery
Blow their belly with artillery
Early in the game
Chorus
Jump in a bomber and dive on them
Jump in a bomber and dive on them
Jump in a bomber and dive on them
Early in the game
If anyone wants to add one more he s pleased to do so
@@lamatoutroux5786 That was the best comment I've ever read!
@@lamatoutroux5786 Throw a rope their way
Throw a rope their way
Throw a rope their way
Throw a rope their way
Early in the game
@@lamatoutroux5786 Push them off a cliff
Push them off a cliff
Push them off a cliff
Early in the game
*Somewhere, over Ladoga, in a Spitfire...*
Pilot: *Spots Dornier flying away from him* Yes, the perfect prey!
*Flies towards Dornier* Hahahaha, I have you now-
*Dornier opens fire with tail gunner*
Pilot: ...Ah...I forgot about that... *Gets “sent back to the hanger” in pieces*
Dorniers don't have tail gunners
@@paint4r But some had tailguns.
4:51 editor motion tracked the triangle because of the black paint job lol
If it works... :D
Love this Do 217 K or M Cockpit! Imagine crusing through the sky above the clouds with that view!
Ever thought of the pilots when they see 8x 50 cal. Tracer bullets coming towards them
Hafy Day Why would the US intercept German bombers? It would rather be 4 Hispanos shooting, but no .50 cals.
@@me262omlett 20mm shells would be scary as well
When I was this early the Luftwaffe didn't exist yet.
Can you please make all aircraft (ones you don’t have researched) free to test fly?
Yes, so you can have a feel of it and incentive to research it
and unlocked armament for testing...there is no real point to test with default armament.
Even though I would really like this feature, they will not because they don't want you to see how bad top teir is lol.
@@arjunsharma7619 and also it wouldn’t maje them any money
@@officialcommitteeoftimetra9806 oh yes of course
It's quite comical getting a well-spoken voice actor to read out copy like "that was a weird turn of events for sure"
How about the Corsair Family. It has quite a few planes of its kind.
I love this line: "was that a fairly unconventional tactic? Sure, but it worked *chuckle*" :D
Trying to hide the cockpit.
Hehehe, they thought we wouldn't notice
I'm in love with Dornier as I am with Focke Wulf,Heinkel, Junkers, Arado , BV , Meser and V- 1 , V- 2 ......I need to get another house to place my Luftwaffe and B-17 F 1:48 ....oh even my fw 190 V -18 in 1:72....my Vasa 1:144 rebuilt in a Spanish Galleon ( very well done cause i do paint, I do study and I do love those XVI and XVII century ships)...
1:47
"Ohooooh Majestic! A bomber is a bomber, even in a dream!"
I'm not a gamer but it was interesting to know about the Dorniers. My perception was that after the original Do17 the JU88s seemed to be the " main plane." Even reading old RAF pilots and history authors' memoirs and accounts, Do217 variations are rarely mentioned - they always seemed to be intercepting 88s or 110s.
Its important to note that misidentification happened quite a lot, so you should not always trust a memoir with these things. That being said, its absolutely the case that the Luftwaffe relied more on Ju88s (around 2700 nightfighter variants built) and Bf110 (around 2800 nightfighter variants built) then Do217s (around 500 nightfighter variants built) when it comes to the nightfighter role
One of my new favourite bombers im gonna research all of them now
They aren't bombers, are they? I thought they where strike craft/interceptors
@@benjihird1025 some of em are bombers
Well there light bombers
@@benjihird1025 better bombload than some bombers. Dunno whether they get a bomber spawn tho
@@Optimizationed *They're
The Dornier Do 17 was sometimes referred to as the Fliegender Bleistift ("flying pencil"), it was popular among its crews due to its handling, especially at low altitude, which made the Do 17 harder to hit than other German bombers.
I like the Do-217 E-2, have already bombed a lot of bases with that thing! Also the camo (France 1943) looks sick on it!
Honestly? All I'd like is some more love for the Ju 88. It's overlooked by many and is not to be underestimated to say the least
DO-217 N-1 Used it very early in war thunder as it was able to soak up damage and demolish the enemies
Absolutely great doco...Always loved the Dornier Nightfighters from the Screech Owls to the 217Js 🌙
I remember winning a 1v3 with a do bomber (cant remember name)
The 1st one got shot down by aaa
2nd one got crit
The 3rd one gave up and landed and waited for me to shoot him than take off again (i guess) trying to kill me one last time failing miserably...
If one got shot down by aaa then it wouldn’t be a 1v3
@@__tadpole__8195 fair, but it was very funny
can you do one on the FW 190 family please? that would be really cool
Me: Wants to play wt with my friend
*WT Uploads a video*
Also WT: No you are not gonna play
Why is that?
@@benjihird1025 Because I want to see the video xD
I really hope I get into this week's thunder show I think I did a really nice trick. Stay tuned to find out!
Ok buddy i believe you
We shall see. Good luck!
Hmm...🤔
I killed a jet mid air with a bomb but still no thunder show for me...
@@matthewthomas7160 hey buddy if you believe everything is possible
Somehow played the Do 217N a month or two ago after probably a year or more not using it... and finally got a Schräge Musik kill... poor Stirling.
May the Stirling Rest in Pieces...
@@banzeyegaming2234 it actually did... It exploded quite spectacularly. I had to apologize in all chat for that.
Dagor 6.0 really looks good, love that the engine is getting a graphical update! Keep up the work1
You got to love the j-1. Purely for the stickers on the wings. It looks dangerous and has many guns
The N-1 Dornier is my favorite Dornier plane because of the versatility it has
Uuh... I'm sorry? Where's the Do-335 portion of the family? Them boiz made a leap in aviation in itself!
That's probably my go-to Dornier aircraft to fly if I need some quick SLs. The nose battery... It's just so, so perfect.
Dorniers were the only aircraft that bombed the island I live on during WW2. They blew up a bunch of tomato trucks that were mistaken for tanks. Crazier still, the local airline uses modern Dornier aircraft now.
This video is a long time coming as far as I'm concerned! Finally I feel like I sort of understand the Dornier line!
the dornier 17 j1 is a nightmare for bomber, i mean 4x20mm cannon and 4x mg17
They are fun to play. If u get frustrated with the grind the dos are a great escape
The pocket history lesson that comes with this video was really cool, nice explanations of why the planes and variants exist in the first place
Well, DO-215. Sadly it isn't in The game
Where is the 335? And plz make a vid about the JU sieries
The 335 was not a Dornier main project. It was a side project
@Rusher Ranker7 do you even know why only one has the siren?
@@AutumnDeIight well, its still a dornier
Ok, so Do 335 is a Dornier. It is however, not part of this family. Messerschmitt made both Bf-109 and Bf-110, but they’re not the same family. Just like Hawker made the Hurricane and the Hunter, but they’re not the same family.
Jew series?
I love the Family's videos; I can't stop watching them. Please stop making them; I have a life to live.
German: passenger ? Nah bombs
Other countries:WHYYY ?
I use the Do-217 K-1 mainly for mixed battles. I got a 5 kill on a point with a couple 1000 kg bombs with it. Also, I find the K-1 double machine gun sticking out the front to be a more reliable forward gunner armament then the 20 mm cannon. But that may be just me.
The do.217 m was my favorite bomber that thing can dive
6:11 i love this bling 😂
Bruce grant is literally the war thunder david Attenborough
What he didnt mention is that the first 2 ones are powered by 2 hamsterwheels and can barely fly
my favourite Dornier is the
Do-you-something-else-than-speak-about-low-tier-bs-?
Favorite is the E2
Reliable bomber, forward facing gun, tanks af
Bring back the Maus #19
Yes
Why would they? The rules of wt is that they have to actual models that ran, shoot, etc. Sure, the maus had a model but it was a knock-up.
I think.
Dead meme Guy no? The thing was real and built
@@yeah4710 It actually did run and shoot.
do-17: Please let me rest!!!!
Luftwaffe: no, time for you anti submarine upgrade
The problem with the upward firing cannons was your target will come down. The last sight some German night fighter pilots saw was their victim crashing into them.
The self destorying 20mm rounds also have a fear factor when they blow up around an enemy, it looks like flak.
I really like the one with 4x 20mm cannons and 4x 7.92mm MGs on the nose.
Literal death beam.
Air craft designers. How many variants you want? Reichsluftfahrtministerium: JA
Outstanding video and presentation.
They are very good if I need to pick between a BF110 or a Do217.... I take the Donier just because it's can take more damage befor it get destroyed
I have a question, where is the booster on the Mirage III C ? When I take the loadout with 2 magic and the matra (the one indicated on the devblog) there is no booster, same with aim 9 b and matra. Unless it is else where...
I got an answer
The booster is only equipped in load outs without guns. Try looking for
1 x Matra 530
2 x Matra 550 Magics
(No guns)
@@Kay_213_ Ok I see, thanks for the answer !
Pls do a" the bf109 family" video next pls
they already did
They already did
They already did
No they did not
@@Onyxar no they did not
It's a perfect combination of Bane narrating Luftwaffe medium strategic bomber fleets.
Bruce is the best commentator for these videos
Where is Dornier Do 335? The only aircraft with push and pull concept. Propellers were infront and back as well.
A) it's not the only one with this configuration (in the game it is but not irl)
B) it. is. not. part. of. the. same. family. of. aircraft.
Supermarine made the Spitfire and the Walrus. One is a biplane flying boat. The other is a monoplane fighter. TheY'rE oBviOUsLy fRoM ThE sAMe faMiLY. God every video they do on vehicles of a certain family people are like "but where is thing from the same manufacturer that is obviously not the same family hmmm?"
Everyone's gangsta till Do 217 with 4 20mms starts chasing fighters
schlager music fired automatically using a photoelectric cell on top of the aircraft an was triggered by the shadow of the enemy bomber
P-61 is a better pick by far lol. Amazing br, amazing turret, radar, 61mm effective thickness glass in the front of the cockpit making it really good in head on's, 4x 20mm's and a turret with 4x 50 cals! What more could you want!? (Also got a sick paint job!)
Well I ate a lot of p61s in my do 217 n 1
Special shout-out for the Do-335 anyone? ( I know it’s not really a mainstream Dornier aircraft during the war nor was it ever mass produced but it’s a Dornier nonetheless)
Aaaarggh. You guys missed the Do 335.
It's not built off this airframe; by the dornier family they mean the bombers/night fighters
190 Videos were amazing
@Gaijin Be proud of creating KPZ useless in 9.3 and obj279 more OP than ever
You have repaired one thing but also one made
I love the first gen of soldiers 😍
There is a correlation between 30s passenger aircraft and early wwii bombers exist, but it completely diffrent than the video suggests. Idea of a light, fast bomber was the logical conclusion drawn from the german strategy of combined forces working together in blitzkrieg. Such bomber would be ideal in short range operations, destroying enemy's infrastructure behind the front line(like transportation hubs or bigger troops and vehicle concentration points). During this time there were treaties, denying Germany right to have their own air force, or work on new military aircraft. So military aircraft producers divided to hide their new light bombers, under the facade of working on new passenger aircraft(not the other way around). Of course it was just in the early stages of Germany's road to war, later they just stopped caring about west's reaction. Just a little fun fact.
THIS IS SO COOL!!! my last name is lacour and we are related on my dads side to Dornier and you can trace the family tree to Uncle Claude Dornier!
An amazing episode. Regards, see you in the battle.
we´re still missing the do 317 tho....
On maxed mods and with a Good crew, this is a Really fun aircraft.
Do-217 E2 is my most successful aircraft in WT. I love that thing so much.
Why? All bombers in WT are made of glass now
My favourite night fighter is still the ta154
I know they probably won't check this but quite a few British Bombers did have ventral gunner positions including the Avro Lancaster B some an actual turret others a cut out either a Vickers 12.7mm or .303, There're posts on the forums asking for these turrets still hell the models ironically have these positions in game.
Another thing still no Dornier Seaplanes like the Do.26, why none of these ntm the Do.217 with the Henschel guided bomb one did after all sink the Italian Battleship Rm Roma.
Yeah exactly! Fast bombers are realy cool and all.
*WHERE IS THE B-26 MARAUDER?*
The changes to the Italian ground tree had such a big missed opportunity, an Italian Tiger H1. Maybe with unique paint so it wasn’t a literal copy paste like half the tree
I will never forget when I was playing my do 217 n1 tailing a hampden and the thing tried to turnfight me, it didn’t go well for him😂
The Me 210 was never intended to be a night fighter.
Please fix the touch pad controls for PS4. Flying has become unplayable since we can’t pull any fast manoeuvres or react quickly enough in a dogfight + the sensitivity has been increased so high it’s near impossible to accurately aim at someone without swaying all over the place. Please fix
Play PC
Lol I play with my laptop trackpad and get 1 to 3 kills per air rb match
Just go settings and check your "sensitivity"
AMERICAN 357 you can’t, they removed that feature for some reason.
Do a Bayerische Flugzeugwerke family vid please (bf 109 and Bf 110)
To me the Do 335 is my favorite, and I love flying boats so I Love the Do-24, cripes I could write a book on flying boats. But yes the Flying Pencil Do17 as it was called always looked beautiful.....I had forgotten about all the derivations!
The do-217 J-N series makes me want to install a red water fountain in my forehead
I like using my N-1 in Sim, and am currently grinding through in E-2. Although I think my E-2 is cursed. I've only gotten back from target once and even then I had one engine out. And considering how often you don't get intercepted in sim?
I read the title as “D O I N N E R E A T”
Thanks for sim!
some of my average AB's:
i see a squad od dorniers: *P A N I K*
they are far away: kalm
they are rushing the entire team: *P A N I K*
Thank you War Thunder for a perfect application of Du Hast Mich
is that bird? is that plane? is that Spider man???
no
it's flying duchbag
My favorite types? The -217-j1 & -j2. Also the torpedo-carrying ones.
Dornier 217 n2 is my favorite one 7:23
How do you use the new load out system for armaments on aircraft? I don’t know how to work that grid system
You click on the load out you want and there's select button in the corner. You click it and it's done.
K thank yoooouuuuu
I wish someone made a good documentary on this aircraft series. Used extensively in the Battle of Britain, I find it strange that it is all but ignored
Brilliantly explained and documented, Sir !
I love the Heinkel He100 D1
Junkers Ju 88, 188, 288 and 388 family next then!