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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2021
- The Kingdom of Sweden has been famously neutral for most of the last two centuries. But even though the country managed to stay clear of big conflicts of the 199th century and remained largely neutral in WW1, its government still had to account for the possibility that Sweden might go to war in the future. That’s why, in the 1930s the kingdom was just as interested in developing their military capabilities as its neighbours. Given the situation in Germany, it was pretty clear that Europe was slowly steering towards a new global conflict.
In the beginning, Sweden bought most of its aircraft abroad. But then there was a moment when they couldn’t get enough P-35s from the US, and after it, the government decided to support domestic production and development of military aircraft, and Saab was the company that rose to the challenge.
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I will admit I have a soft spot for Saab.
Same tbh
It‘s not just you mate
I love their old cars
saab makes me happy
Low tier Sweden: *F U N* High tier Sweden: *Repair cost is over NINE THOUSANDDDDDD*
Watched 5 F-5's get destroyed by 2 vigens yesterday. It was the most glorious thing I had seen in war thunder in a long time.
I killed 3 Viggens in a row in my F-8.
The F-8 kinda clubs it, but that is probably due to how the Crusader specifically performs.
Viggen is still a pretty good 11.0 though, but better against planes like Phantoms and MiG-23s.
I did that in 1 Viggen 🤣. Amazingly fun top tier aircraft, And an excellent missile bus.
Stock grind was horrible at 11.0 as it is with most aircraft 🤣
I clobbered 3 of them in my vigen
@@Stormstykerhow
Länge lever Sverige
My favorite and least favorite swedish airplane: JAS39 Gripen.
I love it because its simply epic. I hate it because i live in an area with a active airspace, and those fudgers dont care that im asleep when they come zooming by.
But you have to admit, you love seeing them…
@@jordanlee9001 Oh yes, of course. I just not always love hearing them XD
lol id rather not sleeep to hear and see those jets lol
@@Betto_333 you think that, and you agree with it the 20 first times. then not so much ^^
@@KamiRecca hahahahahahahahha
Sweden could not get more planes
Also Sweden : fine I will do it myself
Wow Bill Nye the science guy howdya come up with that meme?
Sweden is gud
@@iicustodianlaw yep
And for the aircraft engines we reverse engineered and replicated during ww2, the government set up a royalties escrow account that was paid out to the patent owning US and Brittish companies after the war. I don't know if Bofors and Nobel dynamit AB demanded royalties for the corresponding US and UK production of the 40mm m/36 AA gun and it's ammo or if that was a pre-war contract already established in a way that could be easily extended with a few diplomatic telegrams or dispatches possible even in the middle of the war.
@@SonsOfLorgar thanks for telling us! i rly like learning more about WWII and planes especially
When Bruce pronounced "jaktfalken". That was the best I have ever heard from a non swedish person
Lol I was just about to comment that, I literally needed to rewatch that part, I was like huh… Jaktfalken
i'm Norwegian, and even i was surprised on how accurate he pronounced it!
What time in the video did he say it?
@@goat6411 1:53
thats because they know people will get furious if they dont pronounce it to a tee
I used to have a neighbor who worked for Saab, he was stationed at my country during the SAAB2000 ERIEYE deliveries.
The draken truly is amazing. The fact its first flight was in 1955 is incredible, and even today in 2021 it still looks thoroughly modern I can't say that about any other aircraft made by the US or Soviets during that same time period, most stuff that flew in 1955 looks very antiquated today.
The draken looks like it could take off like a rocket
Edit: I tried it before and it works
For comparison it entered service five years before the Mirage III, at a time when the leading fighters were the Sabre, MiG-15, Hawker Hunter etc.
@@AshleyPomeroy Yes, that really is stunning when put into context.
generally speaking whenever SAAB has introduced a plane it has been ahead of its time and quite dominating, this is especially true for the early jets (with A21 being the exception, but this is just a prop plane that was given a jet engine). Originally Gaijin actually specifically said they would not add sweden to the game because the swedish jets would be way too overpowered compared to other jets of the same era, the original cut off date was therefore put just before draken.
but we all know how that went, gaijin changed their plans, added sweden, and decided to make almost every single swedish tank and plane underperform compared to publically available real performance stats of the vehicles. this is especially true for the swedish airplanes, where ripspeeds in game can be several hundred kmh slower than airframe damage speeds irl.
gaijin solved it by just purposely making every single swedish vehicle unrealistically bad.
@@AshleyPomeroy Even today.
How many "leading fighters" flying today have proper datalink systems?
The J35 Draken had it from the beginning. Cleverly hidden away on the dashboard was a seemingly normal clock. The system could receive analog radio signals and display messages and target data.
6:35 the Saab 29 Tunnan was actually used in combat in congo in the early 1960s, despite lots of groundfire, none of them were lost in combat, the only losses happened because of accidents, one of theese planes can nowadays be seen at the swedish air force museum in linköping.
Got to see both the SAAB Draken and the Viggen at an air show in Belgium in 1982. The Belgian AF was transitioning from the F-104 Starfighter to the F-16 at the time.
"Chaps, you'll no longer be able to fly at Mach 2, but on the positive side, you might live long enough to retire."
That red Viggen is at a military museum in Malmö. She is sitting there ever so glorious. I hope that gaijin include the J34 (hunter).
J32 basically has that role covered since they are effectively the same
J34 was used as an interceptor until it was replaced by the draken
Viggen was awesome
Saab made a car called viggen as will and it's crazy fast.
Drive past there often, standing next to another Viggen and Draken. Beautiful sight!
Sweden is by far my favourite faction in War Thunder! Every one of their vehicles feels unique compared to their competitors and gives me a reason to use them over say USSR or Japanese tech tree vehicles
ha soviet union
Swedish tanks has no armor :(
I agree!
@@elliotoliver123 Attack the A point!
@@jespersvensson7240 No! Attack the D point!
Q: Will auto loader works slower if the engine is turned off?
In game no, but IRL you could hand crank the system on Russian tanks.
If your tank runs out of battery yes the reload for Russian tanks becomes like 30 seconds.
I love the fact that the Swedes aren't afraid to do it themselves & do it differently (for good reasons). Loved my Dad's Saab 900i...then GM got hold of SAAB 😔
The j26 b is pretty fun
The Draken is my fave plane. In fact, I have a (pre-made) model on my shelf, feeling all left out among game figures from the likes of Mass Effect and Zelda.
When can we see more versions? With the Viggen in the game, I'm hoping to see the J35J and Danish Strike Draken.
Oh, and a cool thing I'd like to see is the pointy-nosed Lansen which Saab used to test the Draken's radar.
The J35 Draken reminds me of the F-16XL.
@@jaevanceamendanio2683;-;
@@jaevanceamendanio2683 a lot of double delta wing aircraft will look the same
To be honest, I was hoping they would add the j35j instead of the viggen, the draken is just such a sick plane :(
Fun Fact: if you look around on the left side of the J21's cockpit, you can find a medkit, which ofc cant heal your pilot
I mean I dont know if a Pilot would be able to Stitch up a gunshot wound and fly it could be part of the jump kit
Fun fact: you can find the iconic ghost of SAAB on hypercars made by Koenigsegg
based on F10's emblem
The ghost is not a Saab emblem, its the emblem of the 1st division (Ghost division) at F10 Air wing in Ängelholm.
Fun fact: u can find cars produced by SAAB
@@michas_schizo dont be an arse pls.
My granpas dad was one of the creators of the swedish airforce. His name was Nils Söderberg
They made great cars too!
Always a treat to see a Saab while driving, such nice and modest looking cars
Ye koenigseg make nice sports cars
Exactly
@@celica825 always
Not the same company, just that their names get the same acronym.
Saab 340 with gunpods and missiles when? :3
Lol!😫
Its always a good day when WarThunder uploads a new video
if they would add this much effort in the game like in these videos
@@lambsaucy69 I would argue they put plenty of effort into the game. Screw off with your negative comments
@@TheKep yes, there are many good parts of the game, but there are definitely many bad parts too that make the game very frustrating.
@@TheKep what about uptiering? it is main war thunder issue
@@kajetus0688 That doesn't mean they don't put effort into the game though? As much as we players complain, you can't deny that they put a lot of effort into the game. Maybe they should put more effort into the game, but that still doesn't mean they don't put effort in.
As we all know there was a good reason to plan for the road base system in Sweden. We had a lot of planes in those days but not many military air bases.All vehicles was designed to take cover in the Swedish woods. The narrow off road trucks is an example. As a wheel loader operator of my green VOLVO LM BM 864, I easily made a stealthy camp space with the white tip plow. Stones and stumps turned into nice flat roads. I loved those missions.
I love that Swedish tech tree, I can't wait to see the Gripen joining the list sooner or later.
And for those players who already get into Saab's cars I guess they had that good feeling of being inside an aircraft, especially at night when the console get illuminated.
Sweden was, for UN, involved in a war in Congo 1961-1964. There several J29 (nicknamed "Tunnan" or in English "the barrel") were in use and other parts of Swedish forces.
i had a teacher he was one of the pilots that flew down in Congo
The B18B is great for CAS, the two 600kg bombs are always good for a few frags. The rockets pack a punch as well
by far my favorite Swedish aircraft is the lansen. With its charming looks, and incredible multi role ability's, it has rightfully earned a spot in my favorite planes list.
there is a lot of swedish stuff you can add gaijin but the more important issue is the repair costs it’s not fair. their tanks are so expensive that you will not make a profit most games unless you NEVER die
They need to lower all high repair costs. I propose there should be 3 tiers, with light tanks having a repair cost of about 2000 sl, medium 3000sl, and heavies 4000sl. There should not be any difference between tanks, and definitely not countries (think British/USA Br 7.0ish vs Germany for example). Some tanks are literally unplayable because of their repair costs (i.e. Ferdinand). Please Gaijin.
hot take but sweden tanks could benefit from a slight decrease in repair as much of the weaponry sweden gets is pretty good
With swedich centirions if you dont get 2-3 kills on eatch you will lose money
Or leave auto repairs off and let the crews deal with it
@@ronaldthompson4989 unfortunately even with pretty good repair level, my vehicles take days to repair for free. its like gaijin doesnt want me to play their game...
I love swedish designs so much, if i had to design a tank plane combo it would basically just be the s tank and draken.
Imo its like their engineers just looked at what was ideal in other vehicles and cranked it up to 11
The Swedish Air tree was a fantastic experience. (Perhaps excluding T4) I thoroughly enjoyed flying, fighting and filming in all the airframes.
Bra gjort sverige!!
Hi gaijin. Can we have this thing called TRACTION
you should check the dictionary
A leopard not able to go up 45 degree slope is very weird also make uptiering more pleasant by decreasing repair cost for uptiered players
My grandfather was a mechanic on SAAB aircraft, mainly the J29
9:21 I shall now refer to the SAAB 37 as the “Vegan”
Vegan Teacher.
Viggen
@@iicustodianlaw ahh I remember that vegan teacher joining the Swedish airforce and bombed slaughter houses
Fun Fact j 29 tunnan is the only swedish jetfighter to win a actual dogfight during the Congo crisis in the 60s
What would be a more impressive engineering feat would be implementing Legacy UI options for Naval, since some capability was lost in the "Direct Hit" update.
J29A Tunnan (Tunnan = Barrel from the form) was in fight during UN Congo and was known to land with several shoots straight through the engine. It impressed the other allies fighter pilots.
My dad was a mechanic for the sk60 in the very late 80s to early 90s
Saab J-29 were used in combat during the UN Mission in Congo in the 60s.
8:20 "because why not?" Well, that specification was asked for in case of war and planes moved from air bases that would obvious targets of the Soviets.
Living in Hungary, near a Combat Training Zone, I gotta love the JAS39 Gripen. I witnessed the Sonic Boom happening at the distance, and a lot of Trucks (and other ground based combat vehicles, even MBTs, mostly on train) driving around my place. I kinda want to go visit their base to see the planes from closer.
In the 80´s Viggens always flew over our house at quite low alt, they had their route out over the sea just where i lived.
The planes at 1:15 are of course Gloster Gladiators, imported from the UK. Svenska Aero's Jaktfalken looked very much like it but had an open cockpit. You can see Jaktfalken at 1:50. It was a lot slower than the Gladiator. The plane at 1:40 is a Junkers 86, probably built under license in Sweden. The plane at 2:26 is a Fiat CR42. They were imported from Italy.
Another plane that deserves to be mentioned is the J22, not built by Saab but by FFVS, two of them shown at 10:10 here (along with a Regianne 2000 Falco, imported from Italy). A much more conventional design than the J21 and could therefore enter service much quicker.
My favorite Swedish Saab aircraft is probably the Jas 39 gripen or the J 37 viggen
I think to this day I’ll always rely on the b18. Even at higher brs it’s crazy maneuverability as a bomber and decent bomb load will forever keep it close to my roster.
my dad who i have inherited a big interest in millarty history, often talks about the Draken. It partly due to that the danish airforce used the Draken since 1971 until the 1990ies - its often with a sense of wonder that he talks about it. It great to try it out in Warthunder. Its also the first jet plane that i have tried in the game.
I really waited for this!
SAAB 35 Draken Is still my favorite! Remember that A32 Lansen was intended to be further developed to carry Swedish made atomic weapons, until the early/mid 60s.
That was abandoned and Saab instead started work on the A36 nuclear bomber.
I think you forgot something important, or rather interesting, regarding the SAAB 21. It was the second aircraft equipped with an ejection seat at it's launch in 1943, the first beeing the He 219. The placement of the propeller necessitated a way for the pilot to escape the aircraft if needed, and an ejection seat was the only way possible to see to that.
Saab is definitely one of my favourite company the planes are just super interesting and also I own and drive a Saab 9-3 Viggen
Awesome, I’ve got a 08 9-3 Aero
There's one story that's really tragic about this plane. 5:45 . The J21RA was the plane chosen by the pilots that flew over kullaberg almost every week in 1950. There was one time where it didn't go to plan...
These 4 pilots were just chilling doing their thing, and decided to give the now common audience something to look at by going lower to the ground. They didn't just go lower to the ground, they went INTO the ground. All 4. Kullaberg is a mountain located around the middle left beach, on a small little island that pops out of the mainland, and the pilots went a little too low and ended up crashing into the north side of it. All died.
As a Swedish main, I like to come back to this video and feel proud that I answered the call these aircraft gave me
It would be really cool to see vapor clouds when turning especially on the Swedish jets! Very cool gaijin :)
Just got the j21a1 and that was my favourite match in war thunder. 11 kills. I have never even come close to that number before. The guns are insane!
What an interesting report and amazing narrating - Just a big LIKE for all your very good works !!! Thank You! My best regards, Frank
Adding the export Hunter to the Swedish tech tree would be nice. Since they imported it before the J32 design was finished.
you got it
Looking forward to seeing the Saab/ British Aerospace Tempest first fight in the next few years.
I easily love the Draken it was one of the first jet aircraft I really dived into research on
The Draken F-35 could fly unbelievable slow. I came home from work and saw just at the brow of a very low hill and the back of my garden a Draken F-35 came flying so low and so slow that the pilot waved to me and I could see the aircraft's exhaust. And then in a flash it was gone. Denmark had 50 F-35 and used them in the fighter-bomber roll.
My favorite one is the premium SAAB J35XS. My friend let me use his for a few games and I love that thing
Every update war thunder just becomes more cooler with graphics
A fun fact about almost all Swedish vehicles etc. is that they were and are built for defence.
For example, the strf 103 or tank S is specificly designed for low profile, high frontal defence in form of steep angle and a revesed top speed of 50 k/ph.
The Gotland class submarines have been debated about for their range due to the fact that they are powered by kerosene, however, they are very high-tech and probably THE most silent submarine as of now, and though the have a limited torpedo amount, it is enough to disable most ships if nessesary.
My favorite is the j22-b because it's 4 12.7 Akan cannons and the sheer amount of firepower it packs. Remember when it was 3.3 BR and not 4.0.
i remember as a child, seeing the Draken fly over my granmas house, and since that time i have been in love with it... please gaijin, make the danish variants
My favourite swedish plane is definitely the B18B. I once took out two fighters with the tail gunner, one was the focke wolf fw190 and the spitfire.
Saab draken is insane. My favorite jet to ever exist. Also did ypu guys know the saab 21 propeller plane was the first plane with ejection seat? Maybe add the ejection seat to the J21/A21 if you see this.
Now do Volvo!
Wait.
Just kidding, Volvo Flygmotor exists. They helped with the engines for the Viggen.
Well, adding the Volvo pvpjtgb 9011 and 1111 as well as the Hägglunds Pvrbbv 2061 at BR 5.x, 6.x and 7.x respectively wouldn't be unreasonable imo.
"Do you have any favroites"
"IDK Like all of them"
Love from Sweden!
SAAB will always be my favourite plane company
J21A ground attack version is my fav of all. Sadly no rockets on it for the time.
Time 6:46, the J29A; The flying “Barrel” (fFygande Tunnan) stationed at the military airfield, “F8” not from where I grew up in Barkarby.
We use to hide in the field by the end of the air strip and watch “Draken” (the Dragon), J35D, take off and land, time 7:50.
the J29 "Tunnan" is the only swedish aircraft to have been deployed in combat(Congo as part of a UN force)
The J37 "Viggen" pilots used to practice interception by getting lock ons on SR-71 blackbirds returning over the baltic
Sweden sent a whole air wing to fight in the Winter War.
@@Merecir I meant as in Swedish made. At the time there were no domestic military aircraft production so f19 used British Gloster Gladiators
I love the saab viggen both plane and the car is a Joy to drive everday.
My dad has owned Saab 9-3 convertibles for a while. First one from 2001, the 03, and currently one from 07, though we are thinking of replacing it.
What I love about the dragon it wouldn't look out of place on the battle star Galactica!
the b18b is quite of a fast bomber at its br, and a powerful one too
The J21A1 Is my all-time favourite fighter in the game, its just a blast to play with it, i get more than three kills on average and its just... Gorgeous
The B18B is my all time bomber as well! And the thing that i love of it, is that i can go dogfighting with it, its also a blast
You must add the SAAB jas Gripen 39, its such a cool plane!!
Sweden lives by Theodore Roosevelt's quote, "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
The j29 reminds me of the Bell x5, an experimental air craft with variable pitch wings.
This narrator said "Jaktfalken" with perfect pronunciation! That's really hard, well done! :D
my grandfather was a j35d mechanic so thats cool
Saab some of the best aircrafts in my opinion love the 105 and Drakken (Not only because my country used them)
it shocked me how good swedish your talking for someone that doesn't speak it on a normal day
fun fact: Austria´s airforce also (still) uses saab planes like The Draaken and 105 ÖE
Lansen is such a beautiful plane, just stunning
I've actually seen that red viggen in real life, although an AJS still an incredibly cool aircraft (my favourite aircraft ever is the viggen)
I love his pronunciation of Swedish words, its very similar to the southern Swedish accent known as skånska
I remember when I had a good time at 4.0 with the j21..... good ol memories
a21 is SOO good, it has that 600 kg bomb that kills everything, 4 13.2 swedish meatballs mg's and the hispano cannon that makes it more powerful. ofc im big fan of j35 and j37, but ya know... (g)old!!
I love how the narrator sounds like David Attenborough
Anyone else happy he's back? 😂😂
I ll always miss their amazing cars....
Very good pronunciation of Swedish names!
Very refreshing!
As a Swede I can say that he says the word svenska super good 👍🏻
I would love the Saab 36 and Saab 38 in the game. Never flew and only existed on blueprint but would love to see them.
I mean Saab 38 basically looks like the frogfoot so we might sort of see it
The Sk60B, hitting b-29s from 4 kilometers away with the proxy fuse agms
The Gripen is what I'm waiting for
Thanks for getting me confused sometimes seeing a b17 in 1.7
7:11 that’s the most airplane looking thing I’ve ever seen
I feel very Saab
"sad?"
no, SAAB
"Oh, ok."
Gaijin, 199th Century in the description. There is a typo.