Emotionally Neglected Babies | Dr Syl's Psychiatric Analysis

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  • @oh2sail
    @oh2sail Рік тому +3784

    My mother was given a lobotomy 5 years before I was born. She was absolutely the definition of “ a shell of a person.” When I was in my 40s, my father told me this story. He was worried that I never “acted like a baby,” and even though I was 18 months showed no interest in playing or even crawling. they took me to a doctor. What my father told me 20 years ago is exactly what is shown in these videos. He said I was given blocks and such and all I did was look at them with anxiety. At the end of the test the doctor told my mother he was sorry to tell them that I was severely retarded and needed to be institutionalized. My father says my mother sighed with relief and said, “Ok.” Luckily, my father said that he wanted a second opinion. He said the second doctor paid less attention to me and more to my mother. Then he questioned my mother and found out that she kept me all day alone in a dark bedroom. He told her that she had to keep me in the living room with her and had to talk to me. Within a few weeks I was walking. Thank god my father did what he did. It was the 50’s and I think he believed as many did that babies were just the purvey of mothers. He was always in denial about her lobotomy and her dreadful mental unhealth. I’m afraid if I had been institutionalized as a baby I’d probably still be there today.

    • @sandinelson889
      @sandinelson889 Рік тому +415

      That is quite the story. I'm sorry that you had to go through that as a child. May peace and forgiveness fill l your heart

    • @tessmoore3762
      @tessmoore3762 Рік тому +269

      So sorry you went through that and so glad you had a loving father who did not give up on you.

    • @joni3503
      @joni3503 Рік тому +227

      @@tessmoore3762 and a good second opinion doctor.

    • @stellarauclair
      @stellarauclair Рік тому +161

      So your father was there chilling and couldn't take care of you? Why only your mother? Also, this story really makes it sound like rape, idk...

    • @bp104
      @bp104 Рік тому +414

      ​@@stellarauclair Your judgement and assumptions about this family are appalling. Nothing about this story implies sexual abuse on anyone's part. If his mother was left handicapped from having a portion of her brain surgically removed, she is not also unfit to properly care for a child. Just as the doctor from second opinion noted. Dad wasn't "chilling" as someone needed to work to support the mentally handicapped wife and young child.
      Edit for clarity: Handicap does not equate to vegetative. Unfit is a state which can vary repeatedly with and without mental illness. It is not only a side effect of lobotomy or mental illness. Her being able to foster the child's development after guidance verifies this.

  • @JulieSkeltonUK
    @JulieSkeltonUK Рік тому +1832

    How funny, I actually watched this film a few days ago. I worked with preschool children aged 2-4 for 14 years and you can really see the difference the home life can have. Obviously just because a child is withdrawn or the like at preschool doesn't mean they're neglected at home, there can be a number of reasons. One specific child I remember. She was 3 and with her parents and siblings. She was filthy (the family were known) all she would do was stand with her head down, and not engage with anyone. Just a couple of weeks later after an incident involving the father, the children were removed from the family home. After a month she returned to preschool, now living with her new Foster parents as an only child. It was like looking at a different, totally different child. She was obviously clean, wearing pretty clothes that she loved, and she was smiling talking as much as she could (she had learning difficulties) and engaging with adults and children. When she was collected she went skipping to the carers and smiling. It shows having the physical and emotional needs met make such a difference and in such a short time I was I awe of this sweet little girl.

    • @mollyk3768
      @mollyk3768 Рік тому +94

      Your comment made me cry, I’m so happy for her that she got the care she needed. Hopefully that was a permanent change. I work with kids, teaching them how to swim, and we have one kid who is scared of the water and all the grandparent does when they don’t want to get in is bash them for wasting their money and time. It’s hard to watch but isn’t considered abuse so we can’t really do anything about it.

    • @Helpmenowplz
      @Helpmenowplz Рік тому +12

      Your think kids with autism were abuse but just the signs of autism no eye contact

    • @needtoknowbasis3499
      @needtoknowbasis3499 Рік тому +4

      Not funny when it's youtube's algorithm.

    • @bellportbeads
      @bellportbeads Рік тому +4

      Do you recall the name of the documentary?

    • @pechaa
      @pechaa Рік тому +30

      It’s nice to encounter a positive anecdote about foster care. It is good that at least one foster family was kind.

  • @thewoolverine4420
    @thewoolverine4420 Рік тому +2092

    I was born prematurely and spent the first eight weeks of life in a NICU incubator in the hospital. It was back before they knew how important touch was for newborns, so I was not held or touched except for shots, blood draws and vitals etc. I was then abandoned by my mother at 18 months, raised in an extremely violent home and spent the years between 2-6 locked in a closet most of the time. I don't say all of this to be a downer. I want people to know that even with all of that trauma, I am here, learning how to not only survive but thrive. I did not learn how to play as a child. I am on the autism spectrum and have PTSD so my brain is vastly different than the norm. I just want those of you who have suffered similarly to know that there is so much hope. There are beautiful things to live for. I'm sorry that someone made you think you are hard to love. I promise that is not the case. You are all precious, sacred, beloved beings and I pray we all heal in the ways we need to. Blessings

    • @tessmoore3762
      @tessmoore3762 Рік тому +64

      So sorry to hear about the rough start in life, but what a blessing that you have learned to adapt and thrive as you say. That's such a good word for it. I hope you have a beautiful life filled with love and that you continue to be a blessing and an encouragement to others.

    • @ehosam3380
      @ehosam3380 Рік тому +44

      Wow! Am so glad you took control of your destiny and are living life to your fullest! My best wishes for a full and happy life!

    • @thewoolverine4420
      @thewoolverine4420 Рік тому +15

      Thank you ❤️

    • @AC-gn6og
      @AC-gn6og Рік тому +21

      I am so sorry this happened to you are so strong!!! I hope life is amazing for you today!!!

    • @katherineelisabethbrown4751
      @katherineelisabethbrown4751 Рік тому +25

      What a beautiful message of hope from you, thank you so much for sharing!

  • @whatintheheck4692
    @whatintheheck4692 Рік тому +941

    My sister-in-law was adopted from Russia at the age of 3. The condition of the orphanage was deplorable. There was a large room filled with cribs and the only attention the babies got was changing and feeding. After coming to the states, she was medically diagnosed with Turner Syndrome and Borderline Personality Disorder. She was raised in an abusive family.
    She is now 35 yrs old, married, works in the medical field, and is doing really well. She is very compassionate, loves unconditionally, and wears her heart on her sleeve, but she needs almost constant reassurance that she is loved and wanted. She’s an amazing person and I’m so proud of her.

    • @0Jenna7
      @0Jenna7 Рік тому +33

      We figured this out in the 1800s. It's been a while since I learned of this, so the finer details are a bit hazy.
      It was an orphanage, and it was like you describe, only necessary handling of the babies. Infant mortality was really high. until someone started picking up the babies more, cradling them more. Just touching them more.
      Infant mortality dropped.
      Touching is so very important for babies. To the point it's fatal.
      Sorry, it was just something my brain remembered since you mentioned those conditions.
      I'm really sad about what happened to your sister in law, and really happy that she has a loving supporting family in you.

    • @angelalovell5669
      @angelalovell5669 Рік тому

      It's almost like personality disorders are just psych professionals lazy excuse for trauma they don't want to or can't deal with... sorry, slightly besides the point but also absolutely not, especially if this diagnosis came as a child.

    • @Dora-zh8nw
      @Dora-zh8nw Рік тому +38

      I am from Russia and nothing has changed in the orphanages since then. Children live in horrible conditions. The only difference that now foreigners cannot adopt them, because the shitty government would rather let them rot in the orphanages, than let them have a decent life with a good medical care and loving parents in 'evil America' and 'gay propagating Europe'. I'm glad your sister in law made it out of there.

    • @johedges5946
      @johedges5946 Рік тому +2

      I think I love this lady too❤❤❤

    • @nicoleowens2318
      @nicoleowens2318 Рік тому +19

      ​@@0Jenna7I learned about a study done where they paired elderly in nursing homes with infants in NICU and the results were astonishing. Both the babies and the elderly were much healthier, happier, had higher survival rates and at the milestones check-ups for the babies those that had time with the elderly had thrived significantly more both physically and mentally. There is a definite correlation between touch and quality of life and life itself. The fact that science has no way to IMPLEMENT these findings with greedy insurance companies, politicians and doctors is criminal.

  • @earniemaedeen2703
    @earniemaedeen2703 Рік тому +433

    I am a retired nurse. I had a baby that I took care of in the home on one of my jobs. The child was severely mentally and physically disabled. When I was taking care of her I talked to her held her when she was awake and read to her as if she were a normal child. I was one of two nurses the parents preferred because I treated their child like a normally developed child. Many studies have been done that demonstrate infants and children need physical and emotional interaction to develop normally.

    • @shawn576
      @shawn576 Рік тому +3

      Thank you for doing that. Even if the kid has no clue what you're talking about, they can tell you care about them.

  • @rediris347
    @rediris347 Рік тому +719

    I was adopted at 6 months old after being taken from a severely neglectful and abusive environment. This was the mid 60's. My parents had no idea what they were getting. Only in my 50's (I'm almost 60), have I begun to understand my "idiosyncrasies". I don't remember what happened to me for those first 6 months, but my psyche does. My aunt told me that when my parents first got me my mom would try to rock me in a chair and feed me like you would a normal baby. I would climb down from her lap crawl into the corner and rock myself to sleep on all fours. I'm almost 60 years old and I still rock myself to sleep at night, but lying on my side. Let's not even get into my anxiety and depression.

    • @alycewich4472
      @alycewich4472 Рік тому +70

      I'm so sorry for what you experienced as an infant. Thank you for sharing.

    • @justanotherviewer7117
      @justanotherviewer7117 Рік тому +57

      It's really tragic to realise how crucial those early years experiences are. They seem to set the foundation for a person's whole future psyche. Wishing you all the best.

    • @MsTinkerbelle87
      @MsTinkerbelle87 Рік тому +3

      Someone watched Sybil…

    • @ittybittykittymama7582
      @ittybittykittymama7582 Рік тому +15

      I'm so sorry this happened to you! Please know that it was your patents' inability to love you and didn't have anything to do with how you were mistreated. You are, I can tell, a beautiful person who deserved so much more love and attention than you received. I hope you continue on the road toward healing and acceptance of yourself as a vital, important piece of the great eternal puzzle. Much love from Tennessee

    • @gmfutube
      @gmfutube Рік тому +22

      Family friends adopted the child of the wife's adopted brother, so no blood relation. The parents had asked the couple to take the child for the weekend at about 6 mos and never came back for him.
      No matter what they did, this poor child cried every night in terror for the first year.
      He was such an adorable little boy, loving and anxious to please.
      I hadn't seen him since he was about 8. A few years ago I saw him on facebook, now in his 50s, and it was so sad. I could still see that little boy in those eyes, along with the poverty and loneliness he seems to be living in - despite growing up with a father who was a millionaire in the 60s

  • @smartreikiandtarot
    @smartreikiandtarot Рік тому +536

    My Mom was a stay at home Mom who believed in the cry it out method. She also would tell babies and toddlers to stop crying. She ran a daycare. She blames my lack of liking to be hugged or touched on the fact that I was premature, but she fails to acknowledge her part as well.

    • @vkkna
      @vkkna Рік тому +72

      I was neglected. Like you I didn’t like to be hugged or touched. All of a sudden getting attention only increased my anxiety level. Makes sense

    • @bendakstarkiller3407
      @bendakstarkiller3407 Рік тому +31

      I don't know, my mum was very cuddly. She also believed a baby can never be spoiled (kids different story tho) but I hate touching and hugging in general and absolutely loathe anything close to my face, including my own baby who is 1mo. I am the adult though, so for the sake of my baby I can deal with my issues with his little baby face homing in on mine. Perhaps there is some environmental influence attributing to peopled preferences in being touched or held, but I think there is some innate factor to it as well.

    • @DivineLightPaladin
      @DivineLightPaladin Рік тому +40

      SAME and i was forced to hug my abusive father constantly because complained to my mom "he felt upset that i didn't love him" so she forced me with guilt every time, it was violating torture. I wasn't allowed to say no or I "was hurting him and being a brat"

    • @kawaiijeff9971
      @kawaiijeff9971 Рік тому +8

      ​@@DivineLightPaladin when we were younger, my dad, when drunk, would try to force my brother & i to give my mom a hug n kiss even though she was sleeping. he would get mad when we didn't want to

    • @shadelings
      @shadelings Рік тому +18

      @@DivineLightPaladin I experienced the same thing, only for me, it was just a creepy great uncle I didn't have to see all that often, but when I did, he always wanted to kiss me on the lips (which I avoided at all costs). After being so guilted about it over the years, I finally just did it one day. The experience was just as foul as I expected it to be but the interesting thing is once I finally gave in, it never was expected of me again for some reason. It still affects me to this day tho. I completely understand what you went through, it's truly horrible to have your closest family not respecting your right to decide who you choose to give affection to.

  • @tessmoore3762
    @tessmoore3762 Рік тому +395

    Watch from the USA. Years ago my husband and I met a couple who had adopted a little girl from India. The little girl was 3 or 4 years old, but was not talking yet, except for "mama" and "dada" and seemed more like a 1 year old. She was very small for her age and developmentally delayed. As I talked to the mother I found out why. In India, at that time, little girls in an orphanage were not wanted. It was thought that no one would ever adopt them so they were left alone. They were fed and changed and nothing more. Never rocked, cuddled or talked to. This family had to take that baby back to newborn and go through all the stages with her and bring her up to age so to speak. They were making progress, but she wasn't up to age yet. I talked to the little girl myself and spent some time with her and even had her saying a new word by the time I left.

    • @wolfc8755
      @wolfc8755 Рік тому +63

      I love that, to start all over again as if the child had just been born, what an intelligent, thoughtful, lovely approach.

    • @chetyoubetya8565
      @chetyoubetya8565 Рік тому +8

      Umm no one in the orphanage is wanted that is why they are there.

    • @wolfc8755
      @wolfc8755 Рік тому

      @@chetyoubetya8565 No, she means they are not wanted by ANYONE, not just the parents who left them at the orphanage. As in, NO ONE will even want to adopt them, so why waste time on them, just ignore them, etc, because people only ever want the BOYS.

    • @mazezace
      @mazezace Рік тому

      ​@chetyoubetya8565 They are children for God's sakes. And then ppl wonder why noone respects them, smh. No heart and brains.

    • @johanneabelsen1644
      @johanneabelsen1644 Рік тому

      The worshipping of boys in both India and China is resulting in a lack of women and girls by the millions! The level of stupidity is thru the roof.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @GoldenIkaros
    @GoldenIkaros Рік тому +97

    This comment really goes out to baby Travis...We fostered you last year during the pandemic. You where like these babies...My mom was working as an ER nurse and was the emergency foster who took you in. You seemed so sad, and you had barely lived. The beautiful thing, was before you where moved to your grandparents, we managed to get a smile out of you, a giggle. It was honestly the most beautiful and rewarding thing I had experienced. Our family was naïve in how emotionally neglected babies can be, with such a huge family, we had only been used to bouncing happy babies. You taught us so much about love as well. I hope that wherever you are now, you're doing much better, and living a full and beautiful life.

  • @downhomesunset
    @downhomesunset Рік тому +402

    I was sitting upstairs while my mom was on the phone with a pregnant friend. I was 15 at the time. My mother knew I was sitting right there as she compared my pregnancy and babyhood with my sister. I made her extremely sick, I moved and kicked a lot, and she considered aborting me. I was an extremely painful long delivery. I cried constantly; she was told to ignore me (although, in her words, ‘her father would go to her and spoil her’! Maybe that’s why I love my dad).
    My sister’s pregnancy was so easy that mother wouldn’t know she was pregnant if it wasn’t for the ultrasound. She pretty much fell out; they were able to leave the hospital the next day. She didn’t wake them up at night, but I was crying at age 2 bc I was so afraid of the dark!
    That was when I went down to my room and cried tears of grief. It explained so much about my family dynamics. I didn’t even cry when she died. Hadn’t talked to her in years!

    • @annellacannella5674
      @annellacannella5674 Рік тому +83

      I’m so sorry you went through that. Your mother was a narcissist. None of what she said was true. You were the scapegoat child and your sister was the golden child. There are lots of videos explaining about narcissistic people and the way they react people around them. Knowledge doesn’t fix the damage done but it does help to know the truth.

    • @anonomous8649
      @anonomous8649 Рік тому +55

      No matter how hard her pregnancy was, it was not your fault and you didn't deserve that treatment. My pregnancy was quite difficult but my son is a good kid and I would go through it again a million times over to make sure he exists. Honestly the fact that you had moved on with your life enough to remove all emotion speaks huge volumes about your strength. I hope you're thriving despite the way your were treated. Sadly I think I'll be able to say the same about my father after his death.

    • @danan9061
      @danan9061 Рік тому +23

      relax- if you are the first kid, the first one is harder to come to terms with and more painful and longer because your body doesnt know what it needs to do just yet and maybe you are in shock about having someone depending on you for the rest of your life. Also if she considered abortion it means you were an accident. Also you are associating things with yourself that have nothing to do with you as a person. Considering an abortion would have happened with any child that came at that time in her life. her being sick and having a long delivery completely irrelevant. With you crying constantly, she followed a doctors advice. She most likely had a postpartem depression and didnt feel like interacting with anyone so she was happy to follow it. The only thing Id say is she shouldnt have made fun of your fear of the dark because thats her fault. Kids dont just become afraid of the dark. They are afraid because their parents make them feel insecure in some way. Also to be fair you were eavsedropping on a private conversation. She didnt tell you this to your face and what she said is also not really talking about you behind your back because its not actually negative. she was talking about her experience/difficulty and not you as a person. Of course mothers have these difficulties and its better to talk about it than bottle them up.

    • @Moi27-x4h
      @Moi27-x4h Рік тому +48

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@danan9061there is no way to justify that woman’s cruelty. she said such horrible things - including that she considered abortion - knowing that her child was within earshot..this speaks to any normal, rational person, of a cruel and malicious woman who enjoyed twisting the knife inside one daughter’s heart whilst doting lovingly on the other…this was not an isolated instance of such cruelty, either, as the daughter had nothing to do with her mother, likely from the moment she could separate herself from her…I sincerely hope you do not have children as you seem incapable of separating decent, kind behaviour from cruelty..

    • @Danielle-pt7we
      @Danielle-pt7we Рік тому +18

      ​@danan9061 my forth was my hardest pregnancy and birth. I treat all my children equally, even my step daughter. I wouldn't ever coincider how my pregnancy and birth went as the child's fault and treat them differently because of it. Pregnancy was my choice.

  • @denisesiddon7241
    @denisesiddon7241 Рік тому +605

    Some people don't realise how sensitive babies are and how much stimulation they need.

    • @healingandgrowth-infp4677
      @healingandgrowth-infp4677 Рік тому +28

      The stimulation I received if any was harsh cruel nasty angry words in my ears or violence and I remember them at 1

    • @denisesiddon7241
      @denisesiddon7241 Рік тому +6

      @@healingandgrowth-infp4677 so sad to hear 😢

    • @samiphilosophy3949
      @samiphilosophy3949 Рік тому +6

      More like connection

    • @denisesiddon7241
      @denisesiddon7241 Рік тому +7

      @samiphilosophy3949 both are as equally important

    • @angelalovell5669
      @angelalovell5669 Рік тому +15

      People should start treating babies like they're GASP tiny human beings. And what do human beings generally dislike? Being neglected, ignored and abused, omg what an amazing scientific breakthrough.

  • @BY504A
    @BY504A 3 роки тому +845

    It's too bad that these children weren't followed as they grew up to see how they turned out. Thanks for posting this extremely interesting video.

    • @DrSyl
      @DrSyl  3 роки тому +47

      Thanks for your kind comment mate!

    • @cyndi_b8902
      @cyndi_b8902 2 роки тому +28

      Exactly what I was thinking . 🤍

    • @SausageSideways
      @SausageSideways Рік тому +18

      I think they went through enough. Children don't need their privacy exploited for your bemusement.

    • @sweetcherry7759
      @sweetcherry7759 Рік тому +104

      @@SausageSidewaysit’s not about Amusement, it’s about Science & helping others who’ve gone thru similar things.

    • @winterroses2020
      @winterroses2020 Рік тому +24

      @@sweetcherry7759the science does help others who have gone through similar things.

  • @christianemichelberger8245
    @christianemichelberger8245 3 роки тому +231

    Hello from Germany, a retired specialist for Psychotherapeutic Medicine here. :-) Thank you for the great footage. It's really important to know that the neuroplasticity doesn't go away, and a lot can still be done for people who have suffered childhood adversity.

    • @ZosiaSamosiaOo
      @ZosiaSamosiaOo Рік тому +7

      Hello from neighbouring Poland. Can you please advise whether there is an age limit to when you can make effective changes? I always heard of 26 and have become increasingly worried for myself ever since I passed that mark. Thank you in advance.

    • @christianemichelberger8245
      @christianemichelberger8245 Рік тому +28

      @@ZosiaSamosiaOo , in the meantime, we know that even the brain of elderly people in their 60-80 still changes and makes new connection. It is never too late!

    • @michellebyrom6551
      @michellebyrom6551 Рік тому +11

      ​@@ZosiaSamosiaOohave a look at Bessel Van Der Kolk: The Body Keeps The Score. As a 61 year old survivor, I recommend you have a support network in place before trying to do anything other than gain intellectual knowledge. None of us can do the necessary work in an emotional vacuum. None of us can maintain an external objectivity to our changing internal processes, we need feedback and encouragement from an experienced supporter. Having friends who can take our mind off the work to simply have fun instead is often forgotten in the earnest desire to heal. Good luck and enjoy life as much as you can.

    • @dreamervanroom
      @dreamervanroom Рік тому +4

      @@ZosiaSamosiaOoreread it. He said any age with the words: “neuroplasticity does not go away.”
      Yes, you can!

    • @puggirl415
      @puggirl415 Рік тому +5

      @@michellebyrom6551 Thank you. I'll take that advice as well. I haven't read "The Body Keeps the Score" yet but I did read "When the Body says No" by Gabor Mate and that really inspires me to keep trying to heal. And yes I take my healing interpersonal journey way too seriously. Will try to have some fun while I'm at it:)

  • @VixxxScene
    @VixxxScene 3 роки тому +384

    i grew up in an unstable household and i can tell you i have a SLEW of mental illnesses due to the abuse/neglect i experienced. i sometimes think that maybe i assume i have too many or that maybe the doctor is wrong but seeing how, even at an age you cant remember, you already show signs of trauma. very enlightening. ps im a mother to a 3 year old and i feel like i did the direct opposite of what my parental figure did and i genuinely feel like im a good parent because of that.

    • @elizabethwilcox9199
      @elizabethwilcox9199 3 роки тому +26

      VixxScene, you're doing what Daniel J. Siegel, Ph.D., calls "parenting from the inside out." This is exactly how you heal: dealing with things as they come, which they do as you see yourself in your children. Some people pass the trauma on, and others dig deep inside themselves to change the pattern. Blessings on you and yours! You are doing heroic work.

    • @cindy846
      @cindy846 2 роки тому +15

      Good job addressing your trauma, it's so hard. However please make sure you don't overcompensate by doing the complete direct opposite, because one extreme isn't better than the other. I've seen children suffer as adults because their neglected parents smothered them too much to overcompensate the negligence they had experienced in their own childhoods... Balance is key.

    • @sandinelson889
      @sandinelson889 Рік тому +8

      I can speak from experience about this matter. It's really easy to remember all the negatives. Try to remember a positive you may have shared with her. She was a mentally unwell woman who was giving a baby and no instructions and no support and no understanding. Just remember nobody is all evil. I let my resistance and my anger towards my mother blind me to the good things about her. I was blessed to have my heart heal from that so that I could see the truth. May life give you what you require for peace and happiness.

    • @strawberryme08
      @strawberryme08 Рік тому +8

      Sometimes all you have is a the example of how not to be and that’s a lesson we can use to our benefit. I understand this one

    • @riverforest2997
      @riverforest2997 Рік тому +2

      The jury is still out. Wait until your kids reach adult hood and hear what they have to say before you pat yourself on the back.

  • @mehere8038
    @mehere8038 Рік тому +117

    I have an abuse, particularly emotionally background, but the big thing I noticed watching this is how much my rescue parrots follow this pattern, which I find interesting. I have 2 lorikeets, who were locked in separate tiny cages for a decade with basically no attention, perfectly cleaned & maintained cages & fresh food & water daily (although not the right type of food for their species), but no emotional care. They're lorikeets, who are normally really gregarious & confident & into everything, but mine just sit there & if I leave the room, they're calling me with their "contact calls" (where are you?) within seconds of me leaving. Teaching them to play & be birds is incredibly hard, cause their brains are just not wired for it, they just don't know what to do. Boy also refuses physical contact with me or girl bird too due to his abuse.
    2.5 years with them & they are slowly learning to play, girl has now started to empty her toy basket & even, very occasionally "play" with a toy for a few seconds beyond just pulling it out of the basket & dropping it. Boy's a little better, he likes exploring gravity, carrying occasional toys & constant food dishes to the cage door & dropping them out of it & laughing as they hit the ground below. Neither will leave their cage due to insecurity issues, so I can leave the doors open on the cage all the time.
    Interestingly too, the only thing I can get them to play with in any reasonable way is their food & water dishes, food & water, along with me being there are their only real focuses in life. Toys & general fun stuff with no survival purpose they won't focus on for more than a very short period before returning to those.
    Isn't it interesting how it's not just humans that suffer this stuff, but the same applies to other social animals too, even if, in nature, those animals don't get a huge amount of, or long period of care from their parents. Same is known to happen outside just my birds too, monkeys kept as pets are notorious for having behavioural issues, orcas in captivity become violent/psychopathic, due to the denial of their emotional needs etc etc

    • @susank2019
      @susank2019 Рік тому +7

      It really sounds like you have done a wonderful job with your rescue parrots. It's such a beautiful story! I have a rescue eclectus and while he was not abused, I am still really happy and proud that he is such a well-adjusted guy. I bet with a little more time and patience you will be able to get them out of the cage, on their own time. Food motivation is a very powerful thing, as is attention from you. If you put a chair up to the cage and sit and read and sing to them and eat some treats, they may get curious about the outside world. Or you can put a perch on the inside of the cage for and when they step on and you open the door, they will be outside the cage. lots of treats for that. only very good things happen outside the cage, you know!

    • @jasminflower3814
      @jasminflower3814 Рік тому +2

      Very intersting about your rescued parrots!

    • @mehere8038
      @mehere8038 Рік тому +2

      ​@@susank2019 Thanks :) & yeh, these are the sorts of things I've done over the last couple of years. I can actually now get them to come just out of their cage while I'm there for security, still no need to ever close the doors on the cage though, as they won't come out to fly away or anything. I actually have perches attached to the outside of the cage, all over it & I hang apple & other treats on the outside to try to get them to climb out to the perches on the outside of the cage (and make less mess inside the cage by eating it there) & I hang containers off the little open doors on the end with things like lettuce in them, lettuce being their favourite, so they will stick their heads out to eat that fairly willingly now.
      I started out target training them inside the cage & then moving the target near the open door, so that my boy in particular had to put his head in front of the open gap, where he could see out of it, to touch the target, which was super scary for him. Eventually I was able to get him to put his beak slightly out of the cage to touch the target stick & get a reward, rushing back into the cage as fast as he could after doing it. Over about 3 months, I managed to actually get him to stick his head out to touch the stick & get his treat, then I introduced them to a new, larger cage & thought it would take AGES for them to agree to move, but they, for some reason, loved it & moved in immediately, actually climbing out of their cage to get inside the new one (right next to it) & then biting me if I tried to put my hands into the new one & refusing to leave it, which was interesting, cause I had been expecting them to take ages to get used to it, so at that point, I didn't even have food or water dishes set up in it & had to try to do that while being bitten by 2 birds telling me this was now THEIR cage lol.
      That's their current cage, it has a large side door that I open & close & 2 small doors on the end that are always open. Over time, opening the large door has let the boy see outside & lose his fear of it, so I can even put a birdbath there now, with the big door open & have him come out into it, conditional to being able to jump back into his cage every 5 seconds or so for security & the big door at 90 degrees, so he still kinda feels like he's inside the cage/surrounded by walls when he does so.
      I'm working on ropes (with wire in them) from their cage to extend the range that they travel from it, but we don't get far. I've kinda given up really, their cage isn't that big, it's small enough to fit through doors & is on big wheels now so I can wheel them around easily & I just move their cage to let them experience different aspects of life, rather than trying to get them out of it. They're pretty good with coming onto the perches outside the cage, right at the open doors, but that's really their limit. When I'm watching tv or on my computer in bed, I put their cage next to it too & have ropes going from their cage to my bed & if I put enough treats on it, I can sometimes get them to leave their cage & come over onto the bed, sometimes even walking along the bed up to my head to steal food I'm eating, which is good :) They run back to their cage super fast if anything at all startles them though.
      Girl's a little more comfortable out of her cage & the 2 of them together works really well, they kinda get confidence from each other, one will lead & the other will follow (varies which one in different settings), feeling safe being with it's friend/mate. They won't preen or do mate things, cause of boy's touch refusal, but they area closely bonded & rely on each other for security.
      When they went to the vet to get hormone implants, boy went in first, then returned while girl went in & he was beside himself, ripping out chunks of feathers where the surgery had been & just really, really distressed. When girl returned, she was really groggy from anaesthetic & just sat on the perch, boy actually pushed up against her for comfort & continued doing it so hard he pushed her right up against the wall & then put his head under hers & hid there & stayed there, hidden under her head, right up against her, until they got home. That was really interesting actually, cause he normally HATES contact & keeps his distance & seems pretty together, while girl is the one that seems distressed easily, but clearly he uses her for comfort & security too.
      Girl actually has him henpecked & if I put my hand into the cage or do something she doesn't like, she demands he defend their cage for her, which he duly does & attacks me on her command lol. They generally actually come out to the perches just outside the door if they want attention from me & like me close to them, just as long as I don't touch in the case of my boy. Girl likes to preen my eyebrows & lean against my check, not allowed hands near her though. Stuff like "step up" they hate, because they don't feel they have control over where they are if on a moving hand. I keep trying, but they will really only do one foot on my hand, while the other is locked onto their cage & that's despite 2 years of working on it.
      They're just too emotionally messed up to ever really do "normal" parrot things I think but they're fairly happy little things now I think, lots of happy chatter & interacting with each other & me. Girl still plucks, but she doesn't do the mental asylum type rocking back & forward anymore which she used to do near constantly when I got her) & doesn't do distressed screaming or crying (that also used to be constant) & even plucking isn't that same manic, distressed, fear type motion now, seems to be just that addiction to the endorphins that go with self mutilation created pain. She likes playing with smart toys sometimes too now & boy likes watching other birds on tv & doesn't aggressively bite any hand anywhere near him (he came with a glove for changing his food & water & directions "you'll need this" & apparently no-one could get anywhere near him without really severe biting. He even vocally told the vet "no" in bird language when she gave him a pat, rather than biting her hand off for it, which is impressive progress for him) they're ok with me moving their cage to various locations, from my bedroom to living room to kitchen & even outside (although not any sun, they're little vampires that think they will melt if the sun touches them & hide from it lol).
      As long as they're together & have me & their cage, they seem to be fairly happy in their own ways, just not the really full life that most parrots want & enjoy & can't do simple things like have them on my shoulder to come with me into the kitchen, have to move the entire cage, or leave them & have them calling me, even if I just do something simple like go into the kitchen to wash up a used plate & don't take them in their cage with me. They do seem generally happy with life as it is now though, so I'm happy with that. Only thing that worries me is boy is older than girl, I don't know how old, but he's not young, so I don't know what happens when he dies of old age, I may even end up having to get girl euthinased at that point if I can't make more progress on her learning to cope with life without him. She wants to have a baby, I'm really hoping I might be able to get her a fertile egg & maybe through that a baby that can then become her companion long term, without messing with the relationship the 2 of them have now. Not that easy to get a fertile egg at the right level of development for her to sit on & hatch though. Anyway, for now they're basically happy, certainly learning to enjoy an abuse free life :)
      & will say, treats are limiting with these 2, cause they had a diet of bird junk food previously, so "treats" to them means the foods that they are supposed to eat. They just love their nectar mix & also love veggies, so hard to treat them when they HATE things like seeds, that are usually treats, cause of being forced to eat nothing but sunflower seeds for so long. They love having fresh veggies they can browse on whenever they like during the day, that's heaven to them, especially when they have their nectar too & even moreso when their nectar is put in various forms to simulate nature, such as on bottlebrushes. Things most birds take for granted, for these 2 give them great happiness in life :)

    • @sophiedanon7491
      @sophiedanon7491 Рік тому +1

      You are sooo right. Animals have emotions. I think many people deny it because it justifies the cruaulty they have on animals. Same goes for my recue cat than for your parrots. She was abused then abandoned on the highway. When she arrived at my home, I could not touch nor approach her. She would run. She was afraid of toys, couldn't do any sound (she tried but no sound came out), was scared to take treats in my hand. She is so much better after two years. She is much more secure and relaxed (loves pets, purrs a lot, sleeps with her belly exposed on our bed). She plays and meows like a normal cat. She's still easily scared of noises, doesn't come on lap nor in someone arms but we are patiently working on it, at her own pace.

    • @susank2019
      @susank2019 Рік тому

      @@mehere8038 wow, you certainly have done a lot for them and obviously care for them so much. I do kind of wonder if they will actually end up having babies at some point. I'm not sure but I wonder if that might affect their relationship though? my guy had some cage insecurity, but not as much as your birds'. It was more that he liked being near the cage and definitely only want to be in the room near where the cage was (the living room). it took me 1.5 years to get him to be comfortable in other rooms, but not he really is ok. So I wouldn't give up on them yet. It's great they can be in another room in the cage, but ultimately I think they still could learn to be happy out of the cage. There's actually a FB group that has experts you can discuss these weird parrot behaviors with, and their advice is generally quite good (and it's free). facebook.com/groups/parrotbehaviorandtraining/

  • @tinarafferty62
    @tinarafferty62 3 роки тому +59

    I have noticed this kind of behavior in my grandson i am fostering him and his 5 month old brother when Archie who is 2 year old first came to stay he didnt know how to play i got him being a child and playing reading stories and showing affection to me he awas happy and well adjusted social services decided to place him back with his parents which lasted 6 months he was a completely different child when he came back all he wanted was an i pad he wouldnt sing with me engage in play but in yhe 4 weeks i have had him back my husband and i have worked hard he is playing again he is singing again and most omportant he is happy again xxx Eli is 5 months old and we think he has seperation anxiety he will not sleep unless he is in someones arms or in our bedgonna be a long road but i am honna do everyrhing in my power to let these little boys have a great childhood xx

    • @rosewatson7163
      @rosewatson7163 6 місяців тому +2

      God bless you and your husband, Tina!

  • @RocketBabyDolls1
    @RocketBabyDolls1 2 роки тому +210

    I am currently in the proces of getting EMDR therapy to help with trauma as it is clearly impacting my ability to raise my 4 month old and he deserves an emotional stable mum. Did not realize I had these deep rooted 'issues' before he was born. The first clip of the mom not reacting to that baby's attempts to get a response made me cry immediately.

    • @whateverokei
      @whateverokei Рік тому +25

      Wishing the best for you and your baby boy. ❤️

    • @ZosiaSamosiaOo
      @ZosiaSamosiaOo Рік тому +18

      You are a star mom. Would you let us know whether EMDR therapy has managed to help you to heal?

    • @alycewich4472
      @alycewich4472 Рік тому +8

      Thank you for sharing. You will overcome as you realize the need for it. You are a supermom, because that's what supermoms do!

    • @MsTinkerbelle87
      @MsTinkerbelle87 Рік тому +3

      Did it work 🙏

    • @justmechilling...
      @justmechilling... Рік тому +4

      Hugs and love ❤️

  • @MrLookitspam
    @MrLookitspam Рік тому +91

    I was also told to never put my baby down he won’t be spoiled he’ll feel loved and safe. And I rarely ever spoke baby talk I spoke to him like an adult from the day he was born.

    • @rickymort135
      @rickymort135 Рік тому +44

      Well I went further and had constant skin on skin contact with my baby and always spoke to him like he was a senior manager of a large corporation

    • @innocuousmerchant8766
      @innocuousmerchant8766 Рік тому

      based@@rickymort135

    • @RonWrightwrites
      @RonWrightwrites 10 місяців тому +1

      @@rickymort135 😂😂

  • @ace6285
    @ace6285 Рік тому +126

    The way the first baby reacted to it’s mother and tried to get her to interact is an analogy or mini-drama of my relationship with my mother for the entirety of our shared time on earth. She died at 90 when I was 65 and although I never stopped trying to get her to interact with me psychologically and emotionally, it never happened. She was like that present but dead rendition of the mother in the second part.

    • @healingandgrowth-infp4677
      @healingandgrowth-infp4677 Рік тому +16

      I gave up at 17 and though have tried to interact with the narc psychopath of a so called mother into my 20s… I stopped all contact sometime in my 20s. Life’s better without that battle in my mid 30s… maybe it will continue to get better after now….
      But I can’t possibly ever imagining willingly being trapped in that kinda hell for another 30 years.

    • @susieries3947
      @susieries3947 Рік тому +9

      My sister in law spent her days trying to get her mother to love her or even react to her. I actually said to SIL you are wasting your time . She literally had 2 car accidents within a block of her mothers home after driving for Two hours to visit her and she would turn around and go home . Her life was so miserable . Her mother was a monster

    • @mazezace
      @mazezace Рік тому +2

      If your mother was like that, that means someone did it to her too to be like that. There are children that understands their mother and there are children that don't. Some moms never tell their kids they love them, but their kids will tell their mom they love her. It may be hard for mom to say it, but she shows it everyday. Despite mom's situation, her children are still her top priority, but some children grow up pointing fingers at mom as if she doesn't love her kids. That's c r u e l for moms all over the world when it is mom that does everything for her babies. Smh. The only thing women should stop doing now is having babies because the quality of ppl are h o r r i d. Mom cannot do everything.

    • @aquachonk
      @aquachonk Рік тому +4

      @@mazezace You're missing the point.

    • @jasminflower3814
      @jasminflower3814 Рік тому

      I agree@@mazezace

  • @angelsoffurtitude
    @angelsoffurtitude 2 роки тому +118

    Every child deserve parents, but not every parents deserve their child.
    And watching this from Denmark

    • @millyvolance
      @millyvolance Рік тому +2

      Every child deserves loving parents

  • @saintoffailure
    @saintoffailure Рік тому +102

    That mother has nerves of steel. I started crying when the baby did.

  • @OstblockLatina
    @OstblockLatina Рік тому +69

    I'm 40 today, born and raised in Eastern Europe, and I'm horrified how big the gap, or should I say an abyss, exists between today's perception of child abuse and neglect and the socially accepted good parenting. In times of my childhood nobody cared about children exhibiting emotional withdrawal, and as long as their parents fed them, sent them to school, brought them to the doctor, they were considered perfect parents. No psychology tests were ever run at schools, and that field of healthcare was widely thought as something for clinically insane. As long as the child kept quiet and didn't cause trouble, nobody would take interest in what it felt and what its emotional needs were, and what was going on at home. I can't forgive all the teachers, psychologists, doctors etc. who never cared to inquire about what my soul felt like, and not just my body, Nobody saved me from my abusive family, which never left bruises on my skin, but was butchering my psyche every day of my life.

    • @anneko6842
      @anneko6842 Рік тому +4

      Same for me, I am also from an Eastern European family. It’s sad and I mourn for my younger self. But I try to look forward and remember what progress I have made despite my limitations from my family. Now I can provide more to my own family.

    • @ioannafardella3717
      @ioannafardella3717 Рік тому +2

      44yo, from balkans, both my parents couldn t emotionally connect w anyone or understood emotions etc. Maybe the cultural element is just an excuse bcs an empathetic mother, attuned w her child won t emotionally neglect it -or even avoid any physical touch. I now accuse the system bcs for some reason we don thave the info from school about the existence of so many ppl among us who perceive life differently than the majority-like my parents but i thought at the time that they were rare exceptions. How does school prepare us to live as adults..? Dangerous & suspicious -& unfair for all ppl involved.

    • @heide-raquelfuss5580
      @heide-raquelfuss5580 Рік тому

      😢

    • @mountaindesert34788
      @mountaindesert34788 2 місяці тому

      I think neglect is abuse too! I was severely neglected for 16 months in a Russian orphanage in the early 90's before I got adopted. Therapists arenttrainrd to help me and I think it's because neglsct isn't considered as bad because it "doesn't leave physical scars." My adult teeth all came in messed up because I didn't get enough food as a baby, that's directly from the malnutrition I experienced!
      I've had to learn a lot of about neglect and adoption and trauma on my own and alone because they don't study it well enough in the medical system to help people. At least not in my area 😢
      I really hope we can get more research and help for people who have suffered neglect because it really does have a huge impact.

  • @xxkitlzxx777
    @xxkitlzxx777 Рік тому +79

    This is fascinating.. it's like the babies who came from stability are able to fully immerse themselves in things they enjoy and the ones that come from neglect are more interested/distracted trying to read the room and/or people please.

    • @DanielaRosenrot
      @DanielaRosenrot Рік тому +5

      Not always. Dismissive avoidants are very good a doing things alone, just like they had to play alone in their room when they were children because they were often ignored. And than we have the mix of both types= fearful avoidant which can be 50:50 anxious and dismissive or 40:60, the behaviour depends on the situation and the person that is involved.

  • @NekoArts
    @NekoArts Рік тому +113

    My mother always wanted a little girl so after two sons, she was ecstatic when she found out that she was expecting me (she would have a hysterectomy after my birth so she never had any more kids after me). Apparently, I was a pretty calm and comfortable pregnancy (aside from her stomach growing so large that people thought she was expecting more than just one - pretty funny considering how I was also the smallest one of her babies) and all was fine and dandy up until my birth. I was apparently kicking a lot and had at one point turned around while she was pushing and kicked her straight in the heart (I don't know if that is physically possible, but that was what she said). The force was so strong that it made her lose her breath and she was in pretty severe pain from it (amazing how strong a baby's kick can be when you think about it). Unfortunately, this kick was the thing that immediately took me from being the golden child to becoming the family's black sheep. She never forgave me for doing that and i constantly heard about it my whole life up until I finally broke contact with her a couple of years ago.
    It was hard watching these clips of the neglected babies because I can see myself in them. I have notes taken by my teachers in kindergarten where they describe this same behavior from me and how I was always on edge and nervous. I would play (usually by myself) but I would always hesitate and look for approval before doing so. I remember one thing especially that was repeated through my notes that the teachers struggled a lot with and that was that I never asked for anything I wanted or needed. We would be sitting by the table having lunch, and the teachers could see that I wanted the butter for example, but I would never ask for it, I would just stare at it if I couldn't reach it myself. I still remember that anxiety I would feel about just asking for something. I was honestly afraid of it. Even now as an adult, I can sometimes feel myself reverting back to that small child who just sits quietly in the corner and "stares" at things, instead of speaking up because I don't want to risk offending or bothering anyone. I'm obviously a lot better now than I was then, but these scars run pretty deep still.
    I actually cried when I saw the footage of the child panicking when her mother stopped reacting to her, because I could feel that pain and fear that she felt in that moment. I'd never wish that kind of thing on anyone.

    • @millyvolance
      @millyvolance Рік тому +34

      Listening to your story from the outside I suspect the story of you kicking your mums heart is not true but the product of your mothers abusive personality. How cruel of her to tell you that story and paint you as the bad guy before you were even born.She seems to me to have some kind of personality disorders and maybe even had undiagnosed/untreated post partum depression.😢 sending you love from Ireland

    • @NekoArts
      @NekoArts Рік тому +25

      @@millyvolance from my own research, I suspect that she might be a narcissist (I know that word gets thrown around a lot these days but the diagnosis fits her to a T) or possibly borderline. I'm by no means an expert though.
      Either way, thank you for the kind comment. It means a lot.❤

    • @millyvolance
      @millyvolance Рік тому +5

      @@NekoArts most welcome - you keep taking care of yourself xx

    • @bellaboo20
      @bellaboo20 Рік тому +10

      I feel your comment so deep in my bones. I was never neglected as such but my mum was never emotionally connected to me. She had many miscarriages and still births before me. Like I mean a lot. Upwards of 20 and I think she thought I was going to go the same way. I was born premature. My mum was a good mum. The best she knew how. Except for when she wasn't. And then she'd tell me she wished never had me. That shit runs deep. I had everything I needed and some things I wanted but I never felt loved. Now as an adult I have great difficulty in social situations. I always feel like no one listens to me and I have nothing worthy to talk about. I cannot ask for things like you, I can't even make a solid decision sometimes. I never had and I never will tell my kids I wish I never had them. We are poor. We don't have everything we want but my kids are loved and provided for and I wish that was the standard for every child

    • @white_lotus6503
      @white_lotus6503 Рік тому +5

      I have the same experience. I never felt truly loved as a child and it still haunts me today as an adult. I feel the effects of trauma.

  • @Nettieoiuyt
    @Nettieoiuyt Рік тому +25

    I was adopted at about 8 weeks old and went to fantastic parents. I surprisingly didn’t have issues with bonding because the nurses at the hospital gave me huge amounts of cuddles and attention (I did research and although my records were gone, the social work reports still existed). Apparently the nurses used to argue over which one of them got to feed me and they even gave me a name. Amazing. I’d love to be able to thank those wonderful ladies (Sutherland Hospital, Sydney, August 1967) - they are the reason I started life feeling loved. I still have to deal with the huge emotional issues from the rejection so many of us adoptees feel, but at least I had a great start in life. I’m so sorry for the experiences other people in the comments have had - you are all worthy and significant, and very much loved by the God who made you. I’m so sad your parents didn’t do what they should have done to make you feel loved and secure.❤

  • @Rachel-nc8kp
    @Rachel-nc8kp 3 роки тому +360

    These films are fascinating. I also learned recently that even if an infant or young child was loved and supported by their parents they can still end up with this condition because of the parent's stress and emotional state(ex: struggling single parents, mental abuse between spouses, mental illness etc). Babies are way more aware than we think♥️

    • @tracycooper2697
      @tracycooper2697 Рік тому +18

      I’m thinking that’s what my mental
      Problems may stem from. Raised by a very stressed out single mother, etc. I’m so glad I read your comment.

    • @Rachel-nc8kp
      @Rachel-nc8kp Рік тому +6

      @@tracycooper2697 I'm glad to have helped. I hope you are doing well, and can find someone who specializes in this to help you on your healing journey💗

    • @user-dr3it1pj7d
      @user-dr3it1pj7d Рік тому +22

      I am a stressed out single mum with zero support l.My children have secure attachment style and are healthy and happy children. They are my reason to breathe and I'm doing everything in my power including parenting course to raise emotionally healthy kids. I am doing counselling to deal with my own trauma. Thank you for reminding me how my stress can effect my children

    • @Rachel-nc8kp
      @Rachel-nc8kp Рік тому +10

      @@user-dr3it1pj7d You're doing a great job. If they aren't already, I know your kids will be proud and grateful that their Mum did everything possible to give them the best upbringing. Keep up the good work, I know it can be difficult sometimes!

    • @user-dr3it1pj7d
      @user-dr3it1pj7d Рік тому +9

      @@Rachel-nc8kp Your comment brought tears in my eyes. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

  • @charlottew1245
    @charlottew1245 Рік тому +24

    This was my childhood.. Emotional neglect, no stimulation, toys, play and no love. I was not physically neglected but my emotional needs were never met. My mother was mentally ill, hospitalised and given electric shock treatment. She did not want any children and as a consequence I received no emotional nurture, stimulation or love. It wasn't her fault however her legacy has been to create a human with cptsd and bpd. My life has been not worth living because of my inability to form any meaningful relationships, my anxiety and my lack of emotional control. Dr's need to watch this as part of their training. I believe emotional neglect is as terrible as physical abuse on a developing brain

    • @robokill387
      @robokill387 Рік тому

      i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/031/356/bawwww.jpg

    • @SkittleMcPhee23
      @SkittleMcPhee23 Рік тому

      Have always said the emotional neglect felt just as bad as physical abuse/neglect if not worse, bc at least the physical is in the moment but the mental is neverending. I’m genuinely & wholeheartedly sorry you feel as if your life isn’t worth living & hope you’re able to change that perception someday & realize all of our lives, despite how difficult, is worth living. You matter, you’re enough.🖤

    • @SoupyGal
      @SoupyGal Рік тому +1

      I felt this comment so hard. Sounds like my inner thoughts. And my mother was very similar.

    • @Ace96ify
      @Ace96ify 10 місяців тому

      Please dont blame your mother. Ect and antipsychotics controlled her fully. She did not do this because she wanted to.

    • @jewels18261
      @jewels18261 4 місяці тому

      Yes, Its now recognised as carrying possibly higher risk of lifetime negative effects.. I believe so, but both are very real and If no one does anything at all ....the pain of developmental neglect is blamed almost entirely internally . Physical Abuse can be externalised, and internalised, but give one a sense of existing in the world rather than not at all...

  • @MV-kk3nh
    @MV-kk3nh Рік тому +8

    My mom was ill after giving birth to me, so my grandmother took me in temporarily, of course I don't remember any of that, I lived with grandma for 6-8 months, already called her ma', she used to tell me. When my mom was better she took me back, but I didn't know her and I stopped eating, so she had to take me back to grandma and visit until I got to know her enough to go home. The bond between my mom and I never developed, though I adored my grandma... My mom was very unstable and violent, I never liked her, I often would run away from home and i would go to my grandma's thinking I would never be found, I was very young, 6-7-8 yrs old I don't know exactly, but I was sure my home was not safe, but grandma's was... I do feel grateful to have had such an amazing grandma, she made up for what I lacked, not fully, but her influence in my life changed my perspective because I was able to experience feeling deeply loved and accepted thanks to her...

  • @queenie3885
    @queenie3885 3 роки тому +124

    Watching from Philippines. I was an elementary teacher and I've encountered different kinds of children from 4-12 years old. I really believe that even when child was a baby, their environment can affect the development of their personality and mentality in such an early age.

  • @AbbyWoodlandAuthor
    @AbbyWoodlandAuthor Рік тому +51

    I don’t think I could keep my face that straight. Baby smiles are the best!

  • @Beezelbub
    @Beezelbub Рік тому +11

    Watching from New Zealand. My husband has been searching for years for the reason for his anxiety and depression, but I guessed it long ago, and his mother as good as admitted it when she told me the sorry tale of his first year of life. When he was born, she was a 21 year old living in a new city with a new husband and no family support. She was severely affected by post-natal depression. When my father in law went to work and my husband started crying, she couldn't deal with it. She would leave him in the nursery, close the doors and go to the other side of the house, or even leave the house to get away from the sound of his crying, because she was afraid she would actually kill him. She reached out to Plunket (the national child health and motherhood support group) and told them about the thoughts she was having, and they said they were very busy, but would follow up. They didn't. I don't know why she didn't try finding other help - probably something to do with shame and being 21 and mentally ill in the 70s, and having no support from her own neglectful, emotionally abusive parents. Anyway, it was a year before the depression broke. Plunket finally called back and asked her about her depression and how was the baby. She told them she had killed him, and hung up the phone. They never called back.
    But anyhow. My husband never said a word until he was 3 years old. He doesn't remember anything from before he was 3 either. Even when not dangerously depressed, you can hardly call my mother in law affectionate. I see a direct line from him being abandoned whenever he was in need, or in pain, or upset, to the anxiety he has always had, and the depression he developed as an adult. I have told him what his Mum told me, but he refuses to see that as a contributing factor because he believes that the brokenness is within himself, and that perhaps he can fix it if it is. But he thinks if it's due to something that happened before he can even remember he won't be able to fix it.
    I know one thing though - over 15 years of talking to his GP and therapy and medications has not banished his demons. I am hopeful that it is because he is barking up the wrong tree.
    I do feel sorry for my mother in law. She had a tough early life that also damaged her. It's hard not to feel angry though when I think of her closing the door on her baby. I know she isn't very proud of it, but I don't think she knows the damage she did. I also wonder why my father in law also didn't pick up on his wife's state and get her help.

  • @christinasuozzo
    @christinasuozzo 3 роки тому +31

    I’m a psychiatric nurse practitioner from New York. I treat children with a range of mental illness disorders. I just found your channel and subscribed to it. Thanks.

    • @DrSyl
      @DrSyl  3 роки тому +4

      Thank you so much for the comment. I love knowing the background of viewers!!

  • @amberkluga8949
    @amberkluga8949 Рік тому +62

    I wish there had been more awareness about the impacts of childhood abuse and neglect when I was younger. I'm 62 now, back when i was a child the sole remedy was to remove the abuse (sort of) and assume that was the end of it. Subsequently I passed on my damage to my children. Not in the same way, because I would never do to my children what was done to me. But my abuse led to fractured self, self loathing, dissociation, and difficulty with emotional attachment. I had no idea how to parent so I parented "by the book" doing all the right things but with rigidity and without emotional connection. I loved my children, but had difficulty emoting that to them. It wasn't until I was in my 40ies that I started to unravel my abuse and find ways to connect to my children. My hope is that my openness on my childhood and how it created a non-optimal environment for them, will give them the self-awareness to lessen the impact on their children. It takes generations to erase abuse from a family tree. Injured people injure people, even when we try not to.

    • @puggirl415
      @puggirl415 Рік тому +7

      Thank you! Some think that just getting the children out of the abusive home is enough to heal them. It is not! I left home at a very early age due to abuse and neglect thinking that leaving home was what I needed to be happy. Strange thing was I did not become happy, although I did enjoy the peace of not living in the home of my parents. At 61 I am still battling this abuse, trying to process it and heal the grief.

    • @nicoleowens2318
      @nicoleowens2318 Рік тому +7

      Reading your comment actually brought me some healing. My mother was mentally ill, cold, neglectful and abusive, and I've always had very complicated feelings around this and wonder if she ever loved me. My grandmother died last year (her mother) and she's been acting differently, trying to act like a mother but I'm in my 30's, I don't know what to do with it. I don't want to be hurt anymore, and I certainly don't want her stuff to affect my child. I'd like to think my mother feels like you do. She wasn't the worst mother in the world, in fact, her mother was worse to her, but she also put me in a shelter and told me to kill myself so.. it's hard to feel genuine love. It breaks my heart to think she may have felt love and couldn't show it. It's also hard to believe someone could love you and do such hurtful things. I am trying to do better with my own daughter but she has had to deal with my PTSD and mental health issues. Trauma is indeed very tough to heal when it's generational. Decades of pain doesn't disappear without work.

    • @SkittleMcPhee23
      @SkittleMcPhee23 Рік тому +2

      Soso proud of you for trying tho. I’ve always said it’s never too late for my parents to change & try to do right by me & my siblings yet they still never have. So your effort is very admirable.🖤

    • @heide-raquelfuss5580
      @heide-raquelfuss5580 Рік тому

      😢

  • @PrairieNightMoon
    @PrairieNightMoon 8 місяців тому +4

    It's interesting to note that animals also have emotional needs just like humans do. I've been in pet rescue for many years and have experienced this with dogs and cats. When neglected, they are sad and do not respond to training but when they are loved, happy and feel good about themselves their personality just blossoms and they respond to training so much more quickly.

  • @lyadmilo
    @lyadmilo Рік тому +83

    I really liked how they showed how the second girl, who went to a daycare, was equally well adjusted. Back then, mothers got a lot of stigma if they didn't take care of the babies at home (still do a bit!) This proves that having more than one caretaker (if they are all kind) is still a safe environment.

    • @thompsonfj1
      @thompsonfj1 Рік тому +11

      I noticed that, too. The first time I watched this experiment I was expecting them to claim that the second child was in some way deprived because of being in the nursery, and I was pleasantly surprised that they didn't. It almost felt purposeful, like the people running the experiment were aware of the stigma, knew it was wrong, and set about to show that the facts support the claim that good caregivers and loving parents is a perfectly healthy arrangement. I was raised by loving parents and cared for at different times by my grandparents and by daycare workers. I've been a nanny myself for twelve years. If the parents and all the caregivers are kind and loving, there's nothing wrong with being raised by a village!

    • @lyadmilo
      @lyadmilo Рік тому +5

      @@thompsonfj1 thank you for being a good nanny! I had a nanny for 2 years when my parents travelled a lot for work at one time. I still miss her sometimes and learnt a lot from her like a bit of several languages

    • @innocuousmerchant8766
      @innocuousmerchant8766 Рік тому +7

      the problem is most places where kids and old people are looked after in the west now are a joke. underpaid young women and immigrants getting paid to take care of 80 of them at once. it's barely even a sound comparison in reality.

    • @jasminflower3814
      @jasminflower3814 Рік тому

      Its shocking and I am not looking forward to be coming an old person one day. @@innocuousmerchant8766

    • @limiwa
      @limiwa Рік тому +2

      Daycares back then were not the same as the overcrowded daycares of today, especially in places like the US.

  • @gmfutube
    @gmfutube Рік тому +47

    I ran across a stunning example of this a few years ago. Two young women in their early 20s, identical twins, raised in the same household.
    One was a bit overweight, the sweetest, most generous, loving girl. The other was thin, vain, snide, ambitions and totally selfish.
    Looking at childhood photos, you wouldn't think they were identical. One was always a little taller and heavier, and with more smiles.
    I was completely mystified by this until I learned the smaller one had to stay in the NICU for months before she was brought home.

    • @caobita
      @caobita Рік тому +4

      Very interesting. Thanks for sharing

    • @EPalsson
      @EPalsson Рік тому +8

      Oh noooo! How terrible!
      Just for the record, though, there could be other reasons for the differences besides neglect during a months-long ICU stay. She might have some damage from the birth, for example.

    • @gmfutube
      @gmfutube Рік тому +2

      @@EPalsson No she doesn't.

  • @KillerCammy85
    @KillerCammy85 Рік тому +75

    I started looking into the studies on epigenetics and how trauma can be passed down via changes to our DNA. I love how much we are learning about our own minds and bodies and how things are all intertwined.

    • @aquachonk
      @aquachonk Рік тому +1

      What's cool is that genes are not a given, they are a potential. External forces, specifically your _reaction_ to external forces, is what turns them on and off. So, learning that you can respond to what happens around you and to you in any way you choose is very empowering and liberating. Your thoughts are the most powerful thing in your universe.

  • @sadeva6532
    @sadeva6532 2 роки тому +70

    I was hazed and bullied around 8 years in my early teens (starting at 10-11 years old till age 18). I have PTSD which went untreated for years. I got through those 8 years by dissociating to the extent that I couldn't feel anything. I had flashbacks continuously for years, some resulting in severe panic attacks that made me freeze. My mother was made aware of my issues but chose not to intervene as I always looked forward to going to school (I loved learning and had compartmentalised: School was not allowed to touch home, home was safe), I never feigned tummy ache to get out of school. I did have a volatile temper that was so frightening apparently that my mother dreaded when I came home. I told two people what I was experiencing, and my teacher told my mum. Nothing happened, so I never spoke about it again. When my dad died I couldn't mourn, even though I love him a lot. That was the trigger for me to get help. The first therapist I couldn't really connect to, but I was displaying symptoms in therapy such as inappropriate behaviour (smiling while talking about the abuse), flat emotions and such.
    My second therapist managed to resolve the dissociation by using Cognitive Behavioral Therapy with ETF tapping when I was around 40. She was also the one that more or less gave me the diagnosis PTSD. It had taken a few years to get to that point.
    I still have flashbacks to this day (the most recent one was a few days ago), but I can recognize them for what they are and ride them out, letting those feelings of despair, anger, hurt and abandonment go from all those years ago go. Flashbacks before were like a riptide, they showed up out of the blue, tore the floor from under me and pulled me under. Soemtimes it took days to shake them in which I couldn't do much as the emotions were drowning out everything else. Now I can feel them coming. I retreat to a safe place, let my security net know what is going on and get comfortable. When I am safe, I let it happen. Due to what my therapist taught me I can now surf the wave, I know it's there, I acknowledge the emotions and feelings, but I'm on the outside looking in. I let it run its course till it ends.it peters out and is done. It can be exhausting, but it's a part of healing and it no longer throws me back as much as it used to do. I will have to deal with this for the rest of my life.I'm in a mostly good place now, I have good days and bad days.
    I can't change my past but I can control how I deal with it now. And I have a great emotional support system around me that helps. I really wish though that someone had intervened. I am forever changed and have lost a lot. If you see someone struggling, please do something even if you only let them know you're there. The worst thing is going through hell and feeling invisible.
    Also: Germany

    • @gothicgirlfriend7375
      @gothicgirlfriend7375 Рік тому +6

      I'm so sorry for your pain. Did your past lead to worse things? Mine lead me to being with abusive men, dancing to pay my bills and im probably lucky ive never been an addict for too long. Was addicted to xane#x for 3 years. I am 40 as well and im finally living with a supportive friend who helps me and does not hurt me. The last 10 months are the only peace ive known. Im crying so much as I write this.

    • @sadeva6532
      @sadeva6532 Рік тому +3

      @@gothicgirlfriend7375 I was on my own most of the time, as I hadn't really learned to socialize properly. I know now I'm on the spectrum, so that didn't help things. I had few relationships, none really lasted. The worst was 3 months with a narcissist, but I managed to get out of that without too much fallout. Some things broke, but I got out okay. I have been with a loving partner and a great friends group that take me how I am. I still feel on the outside sometimes, but it gets better. I keep working on it, mainly cause I'm stubborn and don't want this to rule my life. I have gone low contact with my mother though. I'm finding it hard to forgive.

    • @gothicgirlfriend7375
      @gothicgirlfriend7375 Рік тому +3

      @sadeva6532 same. I just cut my sister off yesterday for good because she was the first real narcissist I ever loved. Good luck to your healing. Stay on track. You're doing good.

  • @suegreen7798
    @suegreen7798 Рік тому +7

    We adopted a child that was emotionally neglected, traumatized and physically neglected. I backtracked on many milestones that were not addressed by her parents in the 18 months they had with her. I still find places that need attention as she grows (she's a tween now) one day at a time with love and patience ❤

  • @renatagibson445
    @renatagibson445 Рік тому +6

    Watching from Brazil! Great video. I’m expecting my first child and have been learning a lot about children’s development. Thanks for the video!

  • @basicbase749
    @basicbase749 2 роки тому +29

    I remember as a child, dealing with self-soothing, overthinking in my head, talking to myself, because I never found a safe space to show sorrow or distress because my mother has always been anxious-type and my dad is emotionally closed. I cried alone, I wrote down my thoughts in notebooks. I was the safe space for my mother to vent her emotions and tears, since the time I must have been hardly 12 yr old. Till date, she expects me to play that role for her. And I feel awfully resentful towards her now. But she never understands all this damage. I never got any sort of emotional support from her. I now realize how it has impacted all my relationships, why I never had too much interest in play and making friends, live life with an open heart, have big ambitions to achieve big, because everything looked futile when there's lack of foundation love, support and care that I never got to feel emotionally fulfilled, empowered and secure.

    • @nikkihodgins7970
      @nikkihodgins7970 Рік тому +1

      Same!

    • @lauravergot9995
      @lauravergot9995 Рік тому

      That is how you dealt with it. To Others, a similar situation gives the hunger to achieve and the will to fight.

    • @Lizzifer7
      @Lizzifer7 Рік тому +6

      ​@@lauravergot9995don't minimise their experience like that. What a useless comment.

    • @jshadow536
      @jshadow536 Рік тому

      I relate so much, I could have written this comment myself.

    • @DanielaRosenrot
      @DanielaRosenrot Рік тому

      Maybe you can send her one of these short videos. These are very good videos.🙏 = Codependent Parents Expect Children To Meet Their Needs - ua-cam.com/video/ihCWAUOsFdE/v-deo.html // Are You Your Parent’s Parent? - ua-cam.com/video/yufoE1k9ynM/v-deo.html // Emotionally Immature Parents (EIP) - ua-cam.com/video/BybBu-K4lxc/v-deo.html // When A Parent Can’t Self Regulate - ua-cam.com/video/qud7GTHFjU8/v-deo.html
      Maybe one of the videos resonate with you.

  • @4Mr.Crowley2
    @4Mr.Crowley2 Рік тому +17

    Goodness seeing that sweet baby reacting so strongly to her lovely mum - after experiencing such stress when mum wasn’t responding - how CRUCIAL this interaction is for healthy child development.

  • @sleepyspacegremlin
    @sleepyspacegremlin Рік тому +37

    Based on my life as an adult, I was emotionally neglected as a baby. It was hard to watch, but at least I can grieve the experience now and move on from it. ❤

    • @JanGlow
      @JanGlow Рік тому +1

      Same here. I still get very angry looking back at how neglectful and self absorbed my parents were

  • @shieh.4743
    @shieh.4743 Рік тому +51

    I would like to add that a person with mental disorders can absolutely be from stable and loving families. I shouldn't need to say so, but it is, unfortunately, still a common misconception that a person with depression or other disorders must have had a difficult childhood.

    • @Meowch3
      @Meowch3 Рік тому +4

      I'm not so sure. On the other end, many people don't even stop and question the events of their childhood because they think only physical harm constitutes as abuse. Not to mention it threatens the relationship and image they have of their parents. They think they had it pretty good and the parents usually think so too. It's only when they take off the rose-colored glasses and stop making excuses for their parents as they probe a memory that they begin to realize something isn't quite right.
      Children have a deep need to believe their parents are good. If there is a problem, the child would rather blame himself than find fault with mom or dad -- because if mom and dad are wrong, then there is no hope of a safe haven and the world becomes a truly scary and dangerous place. Instead he'll unconsciously mold himself to be "lovable" in order to fit in and survive. This requires him to bury his real feelings and this repressed state of being becomes his new normal.
      I think depression and other disorders can absolutely come from loving families, but not emotionally stable ones. Just my observation. It unfortunately takes much more than love to raise a child.

  • @jazy3091
    @jazy3091 Рік тому +26

    Every psychologist vlogger: "if you feel you might have these issues, talk to your doctor and they will help you".
    An NHS mental health nurse who was listening to me trying explain that I am depressed and need help: "oh, but you dressed up so nice, so seems like you're fine 🥰"

    • @mysticmoth1111
      @mysticmoth1111 Рік тому +3

      The bar is in hell, apparently.
      I'm sorry you were dismissed when you are in need.

  • @rosebuddud0307
    @rosebuddud0307 Рік тому +10

    Hi Dr Syl I'm from Canada 🇨🇦 and I am a 60 yo female who has schizoaffective disorder. I enjoy your videos and the things I learn. I never realized that its possible for my neglect in childhood to possibly lead to my mental illness. But my therapist has recently pointed out to me that I was emotionally neglected by my mother as she always put her needs first and wasn't there for me consistently. I wondered why this was so important to my therapist. Now I know. This was a great educational video. Thanks 😊

  • @sofiaparolini2982
    @sofiaparolini2982 Рік тому +17

    This is fascinating … I was raised in an abusive home, my father was abusive behind closed doors and my mother was 100% disabled … the few times I was allowed to go to some friend’s I was almost terrified about how loud they were while playing, when I was used to play silently and move silently…. And still now I tend to be silent and almost disappear ..

  • @RIPvizzini
    @RIPvizzini 7 місяців тому +3

    My mom had me while in medical school and went through her residency when I was a toddler. I understand now why she chose to breastfeed me for 4 years. She probably needed the bonding as much as I did, and she could do it while half asleep haha. One of my earliest memories is of prying her eye open once and asking if she was awake (she was not). Poor woman, she's the definition of doing it all 😂
    (Love you mom!!! I'm so proud of you for following your dreams. You're the best doctor and an even better mom. No matter how busy you are, you're always there for me 😭💖)

  • @JordanChrome88
    @JordanChrome88 3 роки тому +33

    This was really informative video and I agree it is so important how parents interact with their children and how they ultimately develop into adults.

  • @notyayo
    @notyayo 3 роки тому +55

    Terrified to be a mother because of moments like these, what if accidentally make my baby upset because I'm too busy💔😅 watching from the United States 👋🏻

    • @CieraMychele
      @CieraMychele 3 роки тому +29

      Right? I said something like this to my therapist, like "I don't want kids, I feel like I'm going to screw them up" and her response was "just you thinking that shows that you WONT be a bad mom. Think of how many people have kids without even worrying about something like that, without taking the time to reflect on themselves and how their actions affect their children"

    • @notyayo
      @notyayo 3 роки тому +12

      @@CieraMychele what a reassuring thing to hear! Others see our strengths before we do sometimes🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @sherinepeterson9519
      @sherinepeterson9519 3 роки тому +5

      Just caring this much I am not worried about you! They don’t come with manuals. You won’t and can’t be perfect

    • @jenncavallari9899
      @jenncavallari9899 Рік тому +6

      You'll be fine. Just love and talk to the baby as much as possible. "Mothering instinct" is a myth, however, it's not that mysterious or enigmatic either. It's a lot more casual and subtle and warm than is depicted. Less "fireworks" and more "This bed was kinda soft and inviting when I initially got in it, but nowwww...now that I've gotten cozy and warm here, I will cling to this comforter for dear-life and fight anyone who tries to take it from me."
      You don't realize how viscerally attached you've become until you self-audit later.

    • @joycebrewer4150
      @joycebrewer4150 Рік тому

      I said same to my therapist, got same answer.

  • @LilRed65
    @LilRed65 3 роки тому +46

    My mom liked her alcohol and pills and I was abused and neglected. She passed in 2016 and I’m only now beginning to come to grips with it and working on forgiving her for my own sanity

    • @jacquelinequigley6035
      @jacquelinequigley6035 3 роки тому +5

      Re word your story might help like my mum neglected me cause she used drugs n alcohol, your mother had major trauma as well happy people don’t get hooked on drugs etc. she made me feel what ? Change to I felt this or that! Can you see the power shift here. Don’t be a victim don’t be a survivor aspire to live a better life. If you have questions don’t hesitate to ask me😘

    • @LilRed65
      @LilRed65 3 роки тому +1

      @@jacquelinequigley6035 thank you so much for your wise advice. May God bless you and yours ❤️

  • @lindaajide2115
    @lindaajide2115 Рік тому +13

    Thanks for this informative video. I’m 23 weeks pregnant and learning a lot !

  • @TheSofres
    @TheSofres Рік тому +16

    I wonder how many parents are undiagnosed neurodivergent? I was late dx’d adhd and only got tested because my daughter was assessed at 18. Turns out she’s ASD with adhd. I tried my best to give her the loving and emotionally stable first years but I suffered burnouts. She was very advanced but also super clingy with me.

  • @marcysabbath424
    @marcysabbath424 Рік тому +1

    I have anxiety, depression and PTSD. I try really hard to be there for my son, but sometimes I'm still faced. I didn't really understand what it did to him until I saw this and it connected the dots. One of the first times he saw me on a bad day he actually crawled over to me to give me a hug. It just broke my heart.

  • @alyrau8671
    @alyrau8671 3 роки тому +14

    I don’t know how mom kept it together in the first experiment. That would legit make me cry lol

    • @DrSyl
      @DrSyl  3 роки тому +5

      Do not play poker with this woman

  • @sarapascoe2508
    @sarapascoe2508 Рік тому +2

    It changes the baby's BRAIN DEVELOPMENT. This is what we have to understand. Brain development continuous at a breakneck pace after birth. Brain development is driven by environmental stimulation. And number one is the primary attachments -- relationships. And none of us can outgrow what was laid down then. Work-arounds. We can learn work-arounds.

  • @dydydiamonds4049
    @dydydiamonds4049 Рік тому +7

    Babies will always be a great eye to all the things we are doing good or wrong... They are the best minds... You can see the fair, the happiness, the worrying, the excitement.... It's amazing to see this material thank you for your channel 💗

  • @oOIIIMIIIOo
    @oOIIIMIIIOo Рік тому +5

    In 20 years the 'My parents always stared in their phone'-children are young adults.

  • @mandapandafree5665
    @mandapandafree5665 3 роки тому +20

    USA.
    Thank you for some of the clarifications on terminology. I wonder what’s become of these neglected babies. Having just had a baby it really breaks my heart. I can’t and don’t want to imagine anyone intentionally mistreating my baby.
    I too grew up in a psychologically abusive environment. My parents were extremely neglectful. Leaving us, four kids, to raise each other. Sadly it impacted my youngest sibling the most.

  • @Sassafras30
    @Sassafras30 2 місяці тому +1

    I was pretty much raised by indifferent Cuban nurses until the age of 14/15 months. I was emotionally deprived and grew up feeling totally disassociated from my sisters and parents. My parents rarely interacted with me except to reprimand or punish.

  • @ProjectEnglishII
    @ProjectEnglishII Рік тому +25

    Watching from Japan, but Canadian. I was born prematurely and my twin died the day after we were born. I was incubated for the first 6 weeks of my life and like someone else who posted, not touched, except for medical exams. I grew up in an emotionally abusive environment (both parents had undiagnosed ADHD), so have always had issues with interpersonal relationships. I started taking anti-anxiety and anti-depressants 7 years ago and it made all the difference.

    • @tianamarie989
      @tianamarie989 Рік тому +4

      Did you get tested for adhd? It's mostly hereditary.

    • @sweetcherry7759
      @sweetcherry7759 Рік тому

      What does ADHD have to do w being Abusive?? 🤨

    • @ProjectEnglishII
      @ProjectEnglishII Рік тому +2

      @@sweetcherry7759 when undiagnosed and untreated, parents don't even realize the harm they cause -- I have it also

    • @gothicgirlfriend7375
      @gothicgirlfriend7375 Рік тому +2

      ​@@sweetcherry7759I dont think that is what he meant. But have ADHD and autisim. I have never been abusive either. But i can tell he wasnt implying that. He was just saying that was on the list of things they had wrong with them.

  • @rebeccadolashewich7094
    @rebeccadolashewich7094 Рік тому +4

    This reminded me of a study I read about where they tested the effects of fear on mice, where they gave the mice a safe home, then introduced a cat into the room that would sit stalking the mice in their cage. The mice Hod & stopped playing as they were too frightened to come out of hiding to play. When the cat was removed, it took them awhile to play again, yet the study showed they never fully played as much or like they had before the traumatic experience of the cat scaring them into hiding.
    As humans our basic needs are oxygen, water, food, shelter, & safety. When we are not getting our need of safety fulfilled, we are stressed out as well as any other creatures stressed out when they aren’t safe too.

  • @WM37980
    @WM37980 Рік тому +3

    20 years ago no one understood this. Now we can see there is a cycle that passes from generation to generation. Neglect breeds neglect. A parent can only teach a child to love if he himself has been loved. On a collective level it s the erosion of Society. Best wishes and thanks from Spain, Europe :)

  • @davidthedeaf
    @davidthedeaf Рік тому +2

    I live in the USA, and I have a MSW from Gallaudet University the only university for the Deaf on earth. Most deaf children in the US are not provided sign language by parents and medical doctors urge them to not gesture or sign if they want to hear them learn to speak mama, which causes long term permanent damage to the person. 90% of deaf people in the US are born to hearing parents and 90% of them refuse to learn ASL ever to talk with them even if the child is going to an ASL program in kindergarten. This leads to lack of bonding and also often lower if not zero language skills developed, while it is shown if parents are even learning ASL the baby will acquire ASL as a first language and become bilingual and proficient in reading and writing in English in school equal to hearing readers. This however is not being promoted by medical professionals as it is not profitable and insurance does not cover families learning ASL, only cochlear implants which are $50, 000 a piece not including the hospital stay, and speech therapy. Even those who have a CI or HA are shown to be better off to be taught ASL as a first language and meet others in Deaf culture to know they are not defective anymore than a redhead or left handed person is defective, just a variation of the human race. Pathology is more profitable but damages society. The majority of American deaf and hard of hearing adults have hearing children, 90%, and they will be raised in poverty as their parents may be living on social security and house hopping nearly homeless. Their hearing children they have trauma of being not recognized as part of the Deaf Cultural Community by the hearing world and yet even doctors again will often force them to interpret for their parents, something that is not legal or ethical anymore but many adults have grown up scarred by. This is a cycle of trauma now in the hearing world that hearing people are not dealing with and have not done ANY studies upon.

    • @cameinwiththebreeze
      @cameinwiththebreeze Рік тому +1

      I’m a CODA and agree with everything you wrote. One of my wishes in life is that all babies Deaf or hearing would be taught ASL through daycare/preschool to alleviate these issues. My Deaf mom and deaf dad were deprived of connection within their families and continued the emotional neglect cycle with me. They both have connected way more with my Deaf sister but I don’t hold it against her.

  • @Peanuts76
    @Peanuts76 3 роки тому +11

    Neglect, abuse, violent, bully, was all my childhood story, and yet to this day they never change, the hard part is to deal/accept that your family never love you as child.....
    I'm having hard time to accept those reality as grown up adult, i need time to grieve the Narcs and Psycho's in my family.....

  • @thedreammweaver6274
    @thedreammweaver6274 Рік тому +1

    I was adopted at 3 months old from a situation where I was being starved. My parents told me that I wouldn’t cry at night because I’d learned no one would come. I also sucked both thumbs all the time. Adoptive parents turned out to be abusive also, involving not feeding me enough. I still don’t ask for help and definitely don’t feel comfortable asking anyone for food if I’m a guest.

  • @Nodeal757
    @Nodeal757 Рік тому +17

    This is so interesting to me! Sadly when I was a baby my incubator (mother) didnt really want me at all, she didnt find out she was pregnant with me until she was 6 months gone, heavy catholic family so they pretty much made her keep me, i wish they hadnt tbh. She couldnt bear to hold me, she went back to work when I was 2 weeks old because (in her words) "she couldnt bond with it"... I was an it basically to her, and because I didnt give her instant gratification and bond right away (because she wouldnt hold me) she got bored and annoyed with me fast. I still remember when I found out in college why my head was flat at the back and on the top, because I had been left in a crib way too much, was really sad to realise that tbh, I knew she was a weird creature but I didnt grasp just how neglected I had been as a baby til then 😔 After figuring that out I asked other family members for more details and they were weirdly happy to talk about it because they found it strange themselves. She is a proper narcissist and I think she is possibly autistic aswell but she is from a generation that didnt recognise things like autism and was just severely beaten as a child for any weird or "bad" behavior- its like she switched off as a kid emotionally tbh. She is the strangest human ive ever known or studied, she doesnt like being touched even by her kids, she is very robotic, hugely OCD, very selfish, and emotionally I got nothing from her sadly. It has affected me in many ways, I constantly worry im annoying to be around or a burden, I have difficulties bonding with people- I either attach too quickly because I just want love or I take a long time to attach and trust someone. As a child I was very angry, withdrawn, anxious, and was even a selective mute for a few years. As an adult I have been diagnosed with BPD, cptsd and adhd. It wasnt all down to my relationship with her (or lack of) there was trauma from other people too, I was sadly sexually abused by a family member, my father was a violent alcoholic so I partly grew up in pubs and was physically abused, these things obviously messed me up even more but me not having that emotional bond with her definitely has shaped who I became. Just shows you how much showing love is important- that from the minute a baby is born into this world they begin being shaped by all aspects of their environment even before they can even form proper memories, I find psychology fascinating in general especially child psychology 💜

    • @yukisanderson6907
      @yukisanderson6907 Рік тому

      Jesus can help you.

    • @NighttimeDaydreams
      @NighttimeDaydreams Рік тому +1

      I hope you can continue learning and healing. You seem like you'd be a wonderful person to know. I hope someday you can use your knowledge to help others

    • @Nodeal757
      @Nodeal757 Рік тому +3

      @NighttimeDaydreams awwwwe thankyou so much for your kind hearted reply 🥹❤️ you seem like such a lovely person 🙏 I hope to help others in any way I can, even if its just to learn something off of or be a bit of a counsellor for someone who has went through their own trauma 🥰

    • @Nodeal757
      @Nodeal757 Рік тому +1

      @yukisanderson6907 I appreciate the sentiment, and I understand why people have and maybe even need faith at times, but I was brought up catholic against my wishes and honestly it kind of ruined religion for me 😅 I believe there's more than what we see with our eyes, I believe in energy, I believe even in karma at times, I believe Jesus was a person in history, but that is where my faith ends for now. Thankyou tho!

  • @CheapsKate77
    @CheapsKate77 Рік тому +4

    As a child advocate for kids removed from their homes for abuse and neglect, i can tell you this is so much more common than most people realize. The good thing is that if the parents'rights are terminated, babies and young kids usually are able to be "normal" within a short amount of time. I adopted my own kids from foster care amd they are perfect adults now. A little love goes a long way.

  • @maaara88
    @maaara88 3 роки тому +10

    Hello from Latvia! Thank you for the valuable content you have been putting up. Your videos have been really helpful getting better understanding of mental struggles that some people I know are living day to day.

  • @kiwik2951
    @kiwik2951 Рік тому +3

    My younger sister never wanted children. Unfortunately she has severe mental health issues and uses sex as a form of self harm. She also has strange beliefs about birth control. As a result she has had 5 children so far.
    After the first one was born she began calling him an asshole and blaming him for things. A tiny baby. His father was also severely abusive to him and my sister. He is now 12 and is a rapist. He has to be institutionalized.
    She tells people her baby (10 months) is a drama queen, and thinks she’s judging her. Her baby doesn’t smile, and only wants to be held constantly. I have tried to tell her nicely that her baby is not capable of being a drama queen or judging anyone.
    It’s heartbreaking to see the problems all her children have as a result of her inability to be a healthy person. Thankfully some of the children are being raised primarily by other family members now and they are improving immensely in their behaviors and abilities.

  • @BigIndianBindi-jy1cz
    @BigIndianBindi-jy1cz Рік тому +1

    i was neglected as a child emotionally. i was also abused. i'm almost 40. I have depression, ADHD, BPD, and no personality. I am nothing. A ghost with a body.

    • @aanneaa7242
      @aanneaa7242 26 днів тому +1

      Your soul is still there! Let it blossom and come out to play. You are loved.

  • @mamajacquelinebts9776
    @mamajacquelinebts9776 Рік тому +4

    Made me cry tbh. I could never not engage with love and compassion with my two beautiful precious son's!

  • @BeYourOwnPet.
    @BeYourOwnPet. 10 місяців тому +1

    As a premie my twin required more care with feeding in our first few months home so in the evening while my twin had to have more attention for feeding from my Mom and Memal, my Papa would come home from work every day and get in his big recliner and take a afternoon nap with me on his stomach. I know that created our unspoken closeness we had until he passed as he and I were always closer then he and my sister who really didn’t give too much attention to him besides the usual day to day stuff. While he told me all his stories,taught me how to shoot and gun safety and even specifically left me his own father’s service weapon (he made sure my grandmother knew it was to go to me and me alone). He is a person I have missed daily for 10 years almost 11 years and I know we created a bond in that few months before I was old enough to know that it was special but I’m thankful for. ❤

  • @loovejewellery6431
    @loovejewellery6431 Рік тому +8

    I’m going to ask probably the unpopular question……I’m so intrigued by what happens to a baby when parents do cry it out to sleep…..they say it doesn’t harm a baby but then there’s research like this….makes you think twice….

    • @Lizzifer7
      @Lizzifer7 Рік тому +1

      Agree wholeheartedly. Anyone that leaves a baby to cry... that's neglect.

    • @GegeP1804
      @GegeP1804 Рік тому +1

      There are research on that. It does affect their brain

    • @aanneaa7242
      @aanneaa7242 26 днів тому +1

      Those babies learn that no matter how much they need someone, no one is there for them. They will grow up never knowing what it feels like to feel loved and secure. Ask me how I know.

  • @Solscapes.
    @Solscapes. Рік тому +2

    I've seen a LOT of therapists. None of them ever helped me become anything but poorer.

  • @maryuk07
    @maryuk07 3 роки тому +10

    Hello from Scotland. Thank you for this eye opening video. It was very educational although I found it sad to see babies displaying anxiety and disinterest in play.

  • @hospitalcakewalk
    @hospitalcakewalk Рік тому +1

    I was left alone constantly as a baby... which my mom openly admitted to and said it was so bad that one day i was left in front of an air conditioner for too long and my heart stopped so i had to be rushed to the ER.
    I avoid people at all costs and I have to have my room cold, about 55 degrees cold.

  • @epigabrielle4838
    @epigabrielle4838 Рік тому +3

    Watching this and reading comments by people who also bear professional or personal experiences makes me so happy we're putting in effort to end these generational curses and reframe our trauma from being a permanent condition to being something we can heal from. The power of our minds is amazing. Awareness is the best tool for improvement, and wanting to improve so our little ones don't suffer, too, is love in action at its finest. Thank you, all of you 🙏🏽

  • @FigaroHey
    @FigaroHey Рік тому +1

    I see so many children trying to interact with parents like that first baby and the parent is totally ignoring them, looking at a phone. Then there's the baby given a phone to play with to free the parents to look at their phones.

  • @BL-no7jp
    @BL-no7jp Рік тому +3

    The mother and baby interaction in this video was quite a learning experience. Wow! Just glad my children had positive interactions with others when I took them shopping or at the park.

  • @wildflxwrr0628
    @wildflxwrr0628 Рік тому +1

    The first 10 days of my life was spent in an incubator, without any touch from my parents. Only that propbely wouldn’t have effected me much, but growing up my parents never hugged me or told me they love me, they also never showed any particularlar interest in any of my interest. When I was sick I never really was taken care of. I just stayed in my bed until i got better, no checking of temp or medecin was given, (even tho my mom is a nurse). I remeber my birthdays stopped feelig special when I was like 9 when I noticed my parents didn’t put much effort/love into it.
    My older sister defently experienced more neglecte than me. She have mental health issues/disorders that was so ignored that I didn’t even know of it. They only became supportive when it was ‘cool’. My little brother defently seems to be the most loved one. My parents actually seem care about his intrest and hug him, but obviolsly I don’t know if he actually feel anymore love than me or my sister does (he is still pretty young).
    My parentes love always seemed fake and it feels like they only got married and had kids because they felt obligated to.
    I’m 17th and can’t wait to move out and start my own life. Rigth now it feels like I’m just living in their house like a roommate, not a daugther. I feel more love from my cats than them and when I move out it will be my cats (propberly my brother too), that I will miss and come to vistit.

  • @kcs3488
    @kcs3488 Рік тому +3

    And now imagine what happens to all the babies of these mobile-phone-mothers who walk around with their babies in baby buggies looking on their mobiles without showing any emotion while the baby is watching them...

  • @wolfc8755
    @wolfc8755 Рік тому +4

    I see the non-engaged poker-face, and I see millions of parents on their cellphone.

  • @Savvyann007
    @Savvyann007 Рік тому +11

    Wasn't there an experiment in Russia involving orphan babies being neglected and only having their basic needs met? A teacher years ago talked about it and said a lot of the babies died or ended up with developmental delays. I've never looked into it but watching this video I'm going to.

    • @melbs9021
      @melbs9021 Рік тому +2

      I was thinking the same thing. I was taught about such an experiment when i was in high school, back in the late 70s. Ive often wondered about that case and have tried find more information about it. Heartbreaking...

    • @puggirl415
      @puggirl415 Рік тому +4

      It might have been in Russia too but I remember it being Romanian babies in orphanages under the dictator Nicolae Ceaușescu who were just left alone except for cleaning them and feeding them. Those little babies would die from the lack of touch. Others would also just fail to thrive having severe emotional issues.

    • @brendatomlinson
      @brendatomlinson Рік тому +2

      @@puggirl415That breaks my heart. Dying from lack of touch is almost unbearable to comprehend.

  • @allisonbrown9873
    @allisonbrown9873 Рік тому +1

    Hi Dr. Sly, I’m in Las Vegas! I’m a psychotherapist and the first time I saw the first video you played was in a training class, and it made me ball my eyes out. It is so sad to see the behavior changes in children so young. This is why I love what I do.

  • @MaBoJo1
    @MaBoJo1 3 роки тому +30

    Glad you made this video, but i think your statement at end that you can deal with these issues is too simplistic, this type of early neglect is exceptionally complex and hard to resolve

    • @smartreikiandtarot
      @smartreikiandtarot Рік тому +3

      I second that. It’s not easy to fix. And may take many decades to realize that there is even an issue.

  • @Moonbeam729
    @Moonbeam729 Рік тому +3

    As I was watching the children playing with the blocks it made me think about my life. I was in an unhappy romantic relationship. I was with someone I couldn’t depend on, who was inconsistent, who wasn’t there for me every time I needed it, and would lie to me. When I was in that relationship most of my thoughts while working, driving, etc would be about my relationship. Going over the lies. Going over all the things that have gone wrong. Thinking about things that upset me. Thinking about how things could get better. Etc etc. all of my energy was spent on that relationship. But now I’m in a happy one and my S/O is very good to me, very caring. I don’t have to put my full focus on our relationship all the time. I can think about my goals or whatever else.

  • @carolinepersons4260
    @carolinepersons4260 Рік тому +5

    Child psych major here (UMN, 2017). One of the things that has stuck with me from watching the still face experiment was thinking about phones. Who is making any kind of expression when on a phone? No one.

    • @Lizzifer7
      @Lizzifer7 Рік тому +1

      Main reason I only use my phone when my daughter is asleep or playing solo (that took a couple years!)
      Sometimes I get engrossed in an article but, immediately apologise, put phone away and play/interact with her.
      You make an excellent point.

    • @alisn.7998
      @alisn.7998 Рік тому +1

      I’m horrified to see young children in pushchairs completely ignored when mother/ father is pushing them, and instead, is on their phone. Those children aren’t learning the names of things, colours, etc, and aren’t having their attention pointed to interesting things on the street. Social media etc is far more of a curse than a blessing, with regard to the young in particular.

  • @KeiraHaloucast
    @KeiraHaloucast Рік тому +2

    This is a really fascinating video. It sort of broke my heart tbh. Watching babies and seeing the clear differences when I’d been surrounded by childhood adversity my whole childhood. And to see that the things I’m unpacking now literally stem from that far back sometimes feels like an impossible climb. I appreciate these videos and the understanding they give me, and sometimes even a little grace with myself.

  • @ashsattva
    @ashsattva Рік тому +4

    Great video!
    One piece of constructive criticism, the disparity in audio volumes during the babies playing section had me holding my volume knob during that section to keep both you and the video audible but not too loud.
    Keep up the great work!

  • @JanGlow
    @JanGlow Рік тому +1

    Hi from Chicago. My parents should never have been parents. I was “raised” by an alcoholic and schizophrenic father and a neurotic mother. I was left alone a lot. My father never spoke to me and my mother later told me she wanted to abort me

  • @kiwimiwi5452
    @kiwimiwi5452 Рік тому +3

    My aunt is currently taking care of her grandson. He was severely neglected by his mom, my cousin, and his dad.
    They left him naked in a bathtub to go out getting groceries.
    My aunt is taking wonderful care of him. He is very arttached to her, but the issue being that my aunt is a chainsmoker, weighs no more than 38kg and will die within the next few years. He is about 5 now and we don't know where he will go once the day comes.

    • @GegeP1804
      @GegeP1804 Рік тому

      This is so sad, hopefully another good family member can take him in, but that’s a lot of adversity for such a little one. You never know, your aunt may live long enough for him to be self sufficient. I hope the 2nd hand smoke don’t affect him too bad, I’m sure it does. Also, your aunt may quit for him.

    • @kiwimiwi5452
      @kiwimiwi5452 Рік тому

      @@GegeP1804 sadly my aunt has no plans to even try to quit.
      We're hoping they'll be manage until he is grown up, though it's unlikely.
      We can't take him in as my mom is on disability and can't even lift a toddler and I am too young for that sort of responsibility.
      There's really nothing we can do beside have hope

    • @GegeP1804
      @GegeP1804 Рік тому

      @@kiwimiwi5452 ooh okay, I understand. I do believe in God and miracles. He is okay where he is now so I pray he gets all the love he needs to thrive. Also, I can tell that you are caring as well since you are even thinking about him. All the best to you and him!

    • @kiwimiwi5452
      @kiwimiwi5452 Рік тому

      @@GegeP1804 thank you!

  • @mentak2593
    @mentak2593 Рік тому +2

    The saddest film I ever saw was a silent film done by a psychologist or someone in the 1920s or 30s. ( Maybe it’s in this video but I cannot bear to watch it again) At first when brought to the institution/ orphanage the babies would reach for the caregivers attention but were ignored. When he came back several months later the same toddlers just sat there staring blankly. If I ever need to cry on demand I think of that film and it absolutely guts me. I can only pray that they had peaceful lives but I wish I was a time traveler to rescue them.

  • @kimthetruthofit6965
    @kimthetruthofit6965 Рік тому +4

    It's just heartbreaking at the center of all things is love. It is essential to our development as well balance humans.
    🙏🥰❤

  • @alicemarshall0823
    @alicemarshall0823 Рік тому +1

    I was born to a druggie women who had 10 kids but lost custody of all of them before they turn a year old, some of them went into the Foster Care system, some went to friends or family members of the women. She would hit, beat, burn, neglect, torcher, and forgot about her kids. My older sister turned 3 weeks old in the hospital with 3 broken bones in her leg cuz as a baby she was crying and the woman wanted her to shut up so she grabbed the baby by one leg and raised her in the air and beat the baby against the crib. With me as a baby I was crying so the women put a pan of water on the stove to boil, filed that boiling water in my water bottle and fed it to me, I ended up burning my mouth, esophagus (throat), and my stomach and was traumatized and refused to eat as a baby for months after that, I was taken out of her care and put in Forster care. When I was 4 months old one of the womans sisters went to court to get custody of me and that's who become my mom. My older sister I mentioned went to another one of the womens sister (she had 4 sisters) so my older sister and I were saided to think we were cousins but our entire childhood we acted so much alike we looked identical and I always looked up to her for some strange reason I always felt a deep connection to her but couldn't understand why. My mom was disabled and couldn't walk and was basically in a wheelchair and she had government assistance and had to go to in person interviews sometimes. I remember when I was 11 she took me with her like she always has and I overheard the lady talking to myom say this " so I see here that your daughter isn't biologicaly your is that correct?" My mom replied "yes that's correct" I looked at her so shocked and asked what she meant but all she said was I'll explain it to you when we get home. She didn't wanna tell me about my past at such a young age, we wanted to wait till I was older so that I would understand better but since it slipped out she had no choice but to tell me. She told me about the birth woman and how she treated her kids. My mom said she offered the woman to cover and visit with me or send me gifts on holidays just to try and have some sort of a relationship with me but she always refused so I made a decision to not consider her my mother cuz she's no mother at all and now I finally understood why I had a connection with my 'cousin' cuz really she was my older sister. My mom called her other sister and said the truth accidentally slipped out and I had to be told the story so it's best if she told the story to my sister. For a few years my mom and I got along great, but when I hit pre teen- early adulthood we had a very rocky relationship. She was very strict and wouldn't let me make friends while at school and wouldn't let me run around making messes and noise at home I had to stay in my room and be quiet. I wanted allowed out of the house even just to the back yard without permission and her keeping her eyes on me, liked she would have to sit on the porch and physically watch me every second while outside and if she lost sight of me for a second she would start screaming for me and bring me back inside and ground me for weeks, I wasn't allowed to have any electronics, it took years of bedding just to get a small TV in my room and even then I was only allowed to watch Disney channel cuz ' that's all that's appropriate for you'. While in public I had to hold onto the cart and if I let go she would scream for me until she found me. I wasn't allowed to Rome the store alone and I needed permission if I needed/wanted something. I wasn't allowed to play sports or be in any school clubs, I wasn't allowed to speak to anyone who wasn't a school staff or authority figure or someone my mom personally knew, she had to meet anyone I wanted to be friends with and ask them tons of questions and then set up a time to meet the other kids parents and how they raised there kids and where they work and was extremely invasive in there lives before I was given permission to be the kids friend. Once I made a friend on the bus ride home and yelled out the bus window that I was going 5 houses down to have a play day with a new friend, mom didn't know who it was so she got in the car and came to the girls house and be used in the door while screaming and threatening the parents saying she's calling the cops on them for kidnapping me, she took me home and I was grounded for a year

  • @zashiki_warashi
    @zashiki_warashi 2 роки тому +7

    thank you for clarifying the anorexia bit! i got so confused when the narrator referred to a baby as "anorexic" lol

  • @dion789
    @dion789 Рік тому +1

    I think everyone has things they want to do differently than their parents, but for a long time I couldn't quite put my finger on what it was that caused my phobia to ruin my relationship with my dad. Until I finally realised because of these child psychology videos that it was a total lack of respect for my boundaries and ignoring my cries for help. Videos like these have made it so much clearer how to be a better parent because it makes you aware of what exactly went wrong when it was previously just a feeling that something was wrong.

  • @typedbyben
    @typedbyben 3 роки тому +6

    Extremely insightful as usual, Doctor!

    • @DrSyl
      @DrSyl  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment mate!

  • @rainbowpandasays8851
    @rainbowpandasays8851 Рік тому +2

    It amazes me how many adults don’t understand the importance of connecting with their children from birth. I experienced this with my in laws and stories from others how the abnormal lack of touch and connection is considered normal to many new mothers. I was raised with a busy mother of 5 including a disabled child and for sure was neglect as a child but that didn’t stop my natural feeling of being close to my children and stimulating them to grow and experience age appropriate activities.

  • @haroldmcallister8180
    @haroldmcallister8180 3 роки тому +8

    This video is really enlightening! I now know why I am, the way I am. I am child number 5 and 6 which is later in the 1965 video.