Hi! I'm a pediatritian from Russia. The doctor in this video was actually my psychiatry professor in med scool many many years later after this footage was filmed. So, i thought, maybe I could provide some context :) So, this footage was filmed in the mid 90'th in a University clinic in Moscow. Psychiatry in Russia has a particularly complicated and controversial history, as psychiatric hospitals were extensively used by the government during the Soviet time to detain people they considered to be dangerous for the regime. Unfortunately, I don't think that russian psychiatry has completely overcome the effects of it's tragic past even today, as it has basically stagnated during those years, or even developed in the wrong direction. We've reviewed and discussed this footage on one of my CME classes on child and adolescent psychiatry recently. And we've come to the conclusion that the young man in this video likely does not have a schizophrenia, but rather some form of ASD. And that some of his difficulties that we see on this footage can likely be attributed to him being treated for an illness he did not have and not receiving the help he actually needed. Of course, it's hard to say anything with certainty now, after nearly 3 decades, but in that historical and social context this version seems to be entirely plausible.
thank you for adding this valuable context! i also felt like he had ASD and understood his movements as stimming. i move in a similar way and so does my brother who has ASD.
My lineage has similar affect. It is autistic, but I have both autism from father and schitz from mother's side. It's a sort of crossbreed, the schitz affect stuff isn't as severe as say hearing voices .. but 'suggestive ideas', 'disordered thinking' 'strange preoccupation' and the rest of the usual battery of symptom suspects etc. It's very similar to say what I have read up on anomic aphasia, though different. I believe all of these various diagnoses are of the same family .. some autism variants, schitz, adhd. My best guess is that they're all downstream of genetic and/or indirect epigenetic damage. Essentially, primarily a loss of regulatory brain function, a loss of Purkinje neuron clusters in the cerebellum, and oversized early amygdlaa (6 months-2 years) and later unusual or undersized amygdala. The effects vary of course, but the craziest part is every case I've seen from my own research that has a similar family of effects is that the face and skin or prerhaps heredity are uncanny similar in some aspects. It could be a visible sign of this variant of dmaage, but that's possibly a long shot.
As an autistic woman, this young man looks like he has a lot of familiar behaviors.... Before I was correctly diagnosed with autism, I was given antipsychotics and it did made me unable to think (significantly lowered my IQ while I took them), and also got me so hyper that I seemed like I was having a manic episode. I do understand antipsychotics are great for people who need them, they reestablish the chemistry balance. But when you don't need them, it actually creates an unbalance and that should make you (doctor) question wether the diagnosis is actually the correct one.
There's a pretty significant comorbidity between the two as well, especially when stemming from genetic disorders some of which he possibly shows physical traits of. He would probably benefit from genetic testing as some of them are associated with other serious health issues, though of course this was filmed nearly 30 years ago.
Right?? Austism wasn’t as well diagnosed back then so it’s completely possible he was misdiagnosed or at least not all of the aspects of his behavior is due to the schizophrenia. Even just the way he’s sitting
In the "beginning of footage" you asked if its innapropriate or not to smile. I speak Russian and I understand enough to tell that they are speaking Russian as well, if this was filmed in Russia or not do note that Russians consider it to be off-putting/innapropriate to smile without reason. That is all I can provide in terms of information but it may at least fill in contextualization and whatnot.
I read that prior to the Olympics (I think it was the Olympics) being held in Russia, hundreds of service staff had to be trained to smile while dealing with tourists.
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Congratulations! That’s fantastic news. You’re going to be a great psychiatrist and we need more of them. My wife and I took the train 🚂 across Canada for our honeymoon. We just got back yesterday from a long weekend in New Orleans to celebrate our 10th anniversary!
Very interesting. His behavior to me seems more autistic. He is distracted, intelligent, with fixed interests, and repetitive behaviors. Emotional lability could also be explained by autism. Like you mentioned, there were some derailments but otherwise thoughts are organized, though illogical at times. Maybe it was delusional thinking in the beginning when he said the men in room three beat him, but not outside the realm of possibility.
As an autistic person who interviewed undred of other autistic adults, being mistreated, even severely abused, by caregivers (either family or professionnals) is not uncommon at all... Alternatively, if he was having meltdowns, even if the caregivers are just trying to calm you, physical touch can be feeled/perceived very harsh (even painful) by the autistic person and thus be interpreted as assault even if there was no intent from the caregiver to be abusive. Both are also possible, I know a few autistic people who have delusional thinking. But very often we're accused of having delusional thinking when actually we're perceiving a situation correctly, but we have difficulty putting into words in a way to be understood by other people. Or we have interpreted a situation in a concrete way, when there was some "obvious" hidden way to interpret it.
I'm autistic (and I haven't finished watching) but this is what I thought too. Its very possible that it's not autism or it's a combination. It's hard to know just from a clip
To my understanding the hebephrenic schizophrenia and autism are quite close and I am sure there are some misdiagnosed people on either site. Unfortunately diagnosing mental illness isn't as easy as with physical illnesses. If a leg is broken you can see it on the X-Ray; but if a person is in between things with their symptoms there's no X-Ray you can take. He shows a lot of symptoms for autism but also for hebephrenic schizophrenia. I hop this young man was diagnosed correctly and got the right help.
I love these videos. My mother has early on set dementia and went through several stages where psychosis and delusions were common. I would love to find more videos where doctors discussed different symptoms of different types of dementia other than just memory loss.
@PhysicsRoxs these are great videos, and you're right - seeing videos related to dementia that deal with more than just the memory loss would be great. There's much, much more to know about dementia than just that. I work as a residential care aide in an assisted living facility, but I've also worked in long term care and have cared for people with various forms and stages of dementia. I've always felt it quite fascinating, but, much more importantly, it's always been made very clear it is to me to have a gentle touch when helping those with dementia, especially when they have a dementia in which they have things like psychosis and delusions and they're at their highest peaks of these. Some people I've worked with have tried to reason with people with dementia, despite the people we're caring for not being able to be reasoned with. It was taught to me, and I've always followed this, that, unless a person is causing harm or is in danger because of their delusions, when they're "off in their own world," so to speak, to just leave them be. Just go along with it and help them where they are, and that works quite well. I've usually been able to find a way to get them to do what I need them to do, like go for a bath or to meals or to bed, by letting them stay where they are in their mind. I hope that your mother is getting the very best care possible and that you and the rest of her loved ones are also being cared for, as it's not easy when people we care about are going through things like dementia in any form.
🚂🚂🚂 Just found your channel today and enjoying these reaction videos. I have schizoaffective disorder and have for 40 years. I'm doing way better now than in my 20's 30's and 40's I started to improve in my 50's. From what I've been told I acted quite bizarre in my early years. I like to think I'm rather bland now
Wow, that's terrible being locked up and beaten. He clearly said he wanted to leave and was hurt in the hospital. What's the treatment at a hospital? Alienation&prison ? Schizophrenia symptoms can be significantly reduced naturally with an open dialogue professional do research let's end this horrible stigmatized pathologized people
My son had autsim and psttnof the treatment was beating and forced medicine to make him get diabetes, tacahardia and not when don't recognise me and is in pain. I'm begging the NHS in the UK to please stop harming him...
Very educational and not only on hebephrenic schizophrenia - I can now successfully navigate the Moscow Metro despite having never been there! Other than in Metro Exodus ;)
Congrats on the good news!! 👍🏼 Good on ya ❤ Just found your videos today ... I have a younger brother with paranoia schizophrenia. Your videos are very informative.
Ive been in hospital a lot for my bipolar, and I hate when they ask the "a rolling stone gathers no moss" or their favorite "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Even now I couldn't tell you the answer without looking it up.
@@jax99888English is my only language and I do not understand what is meant of either of these....I would imagine people shouldn't throw stones from within a glass house for the obvious, but don't get why a stone wouldn't eventually gather moss with time. I'm sure there must be some non-literal meaning to both but I've never heard it
@@stephE80I think the rolling stone stone proverb can actually be interpreted quite literally: if a stone is constantly rolling, it is impossible (or at least far less likely) for plants (eg moss) to grow on it, because the stone is always being scratched and bumped by whatever surfaces it's rolling over, which knocks any potential plants off of it. If you interpret it metaphorically, the stone represent a human being... always "rolling", aka moving from one place to another... which makes it impossible (or unlikely or difficult) for that person to "gather moss" aka collect things such as a family, friends, career, responsibilities etc. Whether that's a good or bad thing, is entirely up to the person in question, I'd say. So this proverb doesn't feel like an inherently negative or positive saying to me. If a person wants a family, maybe stop "rolling" and settle down somewhere. (Or take your family along and form a pack of rolling stones, LOL.) If a person wants to live a more carefree life, by all means keep "rolling" and entering into fun but possibly brief different adventures all over the place.
@@stephE80The glass house proverb is more of a Game of Assumptions, to be honest... What would you expect to happen if a person "A" throws a stone? My automatic assumptions: 1) person "A" is throwing the stone at another person, 2) that other person will want to get revenge, and 3) that other person will throw a stone back at person "A". That's when the glass house comes into play: if person "A" lives in a glass house... and assumption 4) they quickly run and hide in it... the stone will hit the house instead, which is made of glass, and hence will shatter. Conclusion / lesson learned by person "A": if I live in a glass house, I should not throw stones, because someone might throw one back, and my house will be damaged. Metaphorical interpretation: if my life is very visible for all of my family & friends (eg I am very open about it or I post it all over social media) ... and I tell a friend that they did something stupid ... they might just search through my socials for a mistake that I've made ... and then throw that (figuratively speaking) in my face in revenge. Aka, if I know I've made mistakes (and they can be found), it is unwise for me to comment on other people's mistakes. The 'problem' with all the assumptions is: What if the stone thrower is throwing their stone into a pond, not at a person? What if the other person simply runs for their life, or forgives the thrower, or would simply never dare to throw a stone back? What if the stone thrower doesn't hide in their glass house, but stands far away from it, meaning a stone-in-return would never hit their house? If someone's mind creates a different storyline during the literal interpretation of this proverb, they're understandably not going to come to the same conclusions and make the same comparisons as someone who makes the, I guess, default and expected assumptions. And who's to say that someone whose mind simply goes to "person A must be skipping stones in a pond, how fun, and they just happen to live in a glass house" doesn't have the more happy mind to live with. By default assuming person A is pelting another person and the whole situation is going to turn into a stone throwing war is actually not a very nice assumption to make. Long story short---next time someone asks you what this proverb means, simply ask the question in return: "In your narrative of the world, or mine?" :)
You have concrete thinking. That's what they're checking for when they ask you those proverbs/adages. If you have significant problems with abstract thinking, I would question that bipolar diagnosis. It's much more suggestive of a schizophrenia spectrum disorder.
All too often, psychiatrists mistake signs of autism for psychosis. It apparently happened in Russian in the 90s, and it continues today globally - including in my own country, the United States.
So many perfectly mentally and cognitively healthy people get the "which is heavier" question wrong, if they haven't been asked it before. I know it was used in my school to *teach* kids to learn not to just answer questions without thinking them through thoroughly first.
aside from the fact that we don't know what his state was like before the meds, I think he's not schizophrenic, not in the least. Hebephrenia, delayed emotional development -- yes. If not for the body of a young man/late teen, his responses (both verbal and an accompanying affect) would be totally appropriate for a bright 8 year old who REALLY likes trains. And is fidgety and quickly switches topics as is expected of an 8 year old. Getting beat up by violent patients on a closed ward is entirely realistic for a Soviet/Post-Soviet mental asylum. So, no disordered or inappropriate affect, no disordered thinking, no reported hallucinations or other psychotic symptoms, fidgeting appropriate to side effects of early anti-psychotics, loss of task focus appropriate with retarded emotional development. Cognitive skills etc are those of a (roughly) 8 year old.
I have schizophrenia and I remember at the onset my mind being entirely helpless and it’s not like physical exhaustion but all mental and emotional aspects of the mind are helpless and exhausted to nothing. It’s a very vulnerable state to be in because my mind couldn’t do important things like be discerning and judge the value of information and I couldn’t be assertive either and I had no context for a lot of things. It’s like mental poverty kind of. It’s bad to get bullied in a state of helplessness, because I internalised the attitudes of my bullies as my own attitudes about my self and it’s very upsetting. And I tried to make a reality type of thing with just random information that came my way but the majority of it was useless trash, but that’s what I had to work with and then I wasn’t clear thinking and I made some very abnormal decisions, and ended up doing abnormal behaviour.
@@DrSyl you're welcome. Btw, just a thought, do you have any opinions or diagnosis for today's people who believe in crazy conspiracy theories like the q-thing and all? Can you make a video of mass delucions/psychosis or mass hysteria etc? 🤔
Huge congrats on getting into psych! That's really huge. I know little about that disease i can never spell, except that it seems like something that can very a lot person to person and type type. I wish you tremendous luck with the specialty, but I'm sure you'll be great. I mean yes, i don't know you at all as a person outside of a few videos, but you certainly come off like a smart guy. Drink a lot of water, get a lot of sleep, and you should be ok. And i could be very wrong, since i don't speak the language, but I'm guessing that clip was Russian, since lots of das and K's.
Late onset Schizophrenia, I wish you will make a video about this. Our late mother was diagnosed with this. We even had to explain that this disease can appear after the age of 45 to an senior psychiatric expert in ADHD.. probably because when he studied in the U, by the DSM-III the symptoms must have appeared before the age of 45. I was surprised too... With a complex psychiatric family history: Cool & fun aunt w Bipolar Disorder, complicated aunt w Border Personality.... I assumed that by 30 yrs old I would have figured out already, if I inherited those faulty genes. Now I will need to wait until, forever? I would need to add Schizophrenia to the family future risks: Early onset Alzheimer (My Mom, her father and a nephew of him, plus a half brother (same father) of my Mom, but not at an early age) & ALS (another cousin of my Mom). All, from the same Ashkenazi Jew side of the family :/
i have two nephews with ASD, a brother with Schizophrenia misdiagnosed---actually has OCD and asd....a cousin borderline, psychotic grandfather, narcissism in sister (extreme and toxic) she also has OCD....she is the Mom of one of the nephews with ASD.... Grandson with ASD and possible ADHD, age 4. Older grandson with OCD and hoarding issues. Son with anxiety and also now realizing bi-polar. Also in second generation is brain cancer.
I was adopted into a family with like no issues (other than cancer and alcoholism) and I have anxiety, depression, probably autism and adhd, and possible ocd but very mild. I have no idea what my family history is, but I know my birth mother was addicted to drugs when I was born and I was taken away from day 1. It’s pretty crazy what can run through your genes and affect your entire life just because your parents carried those genes
@@beesquestionmark People with ADHD, may have obsession behavior and rituals, which are similar to mild OCD, yeap. Hopefully you are on treatment for the depression and anxiety, wish you feel well (maybe you can make a DNA test in order to find family members)
It’s wonderful to know that ppl are learning more about this subtype of schizophrenia 🤗 I’d love to see you react to Anderson Cooper experiencing a simulation of Schizophrenia 2:39
This is interesting. My dad was an occupational therapist who worked at the Veterans Administration in the psychiatric unit. He had patients that sounded very much like this. Ask them about what they were doing and they’d answer, Chevrolet! Interesting indeed!
One more note from Russian: the doctor wasn't asking if the guy likes girls or boys, it was more of an interesting in the intimacy in general. Literal translation is correct, yes, but the context is a bit different.
If he is *really interested in trains* (very common in autism)--might want to talk about them--yeah autism (I think he seems more disorganized than most autistic people (I'm on the spectrum). You can have both though. In fact, we are at higher risk. (Oops you said that). I wondered re: repetitive movements---could also be tardive dyskinesia (toxic effect of the old anti-psychotics). You just said that too. Very happy you made it into the program! You seem like a super sensitive person. Congrats.
I am enjoying your vid÷os. My best friend has Schizophrenia. He just recently went in t[ blown psychosis. So he is off for a lengthy hospital stay😢. I know he will, Ok But first, he needs care. I learn as much as much as I can about what goes on in his head
For a bit of context, I believe this is not a first assessment but rather a check in with a patient on the ward. Some patients of this doctor claim they've never seen him before when in reality he's been their doctor for years. I like this series, the doctor and some other doctors who are present during questioning are friendly.
Beaten, not treated with kindness. How about that as for an explanation.. Cooperation is assumed when he hasn't been seen in early childhood. It's a regressive functioning. He makes you feel the way he has been made to feel, confused. And instead of becoming angry because of the deprivation he has experienced he chooses to collapse awereness of it.
When you react to this type of video I’d love it if you gave a possible treatment scenario and what the chances are for these people of any kind of recovery into a somewhat normal knife outside of a hospital.
Seems like he was waiting for an opportunity to talk about what he was passionate about, and that’s where the dialogue conversation ended. He went in on a tangent and that was completely “The Anton Show”. I can see how that will be exhausting te be around, but he looked like a sweet boy.
I don´t think it´s the "anton show", it´s the "metro show". This doesn´t seem to be about him wanting to stand in the spotlight, this is about him being very, very fascinated by a certain topic.
🚝🚆🚇 Interesting. Was picking up on some of the language here and there primarily due to similarities to Ukrainian which I've been doing on Duolingo and secondarily because I went on exchange to Russia just a year or so before this video. -and yes, it is understandable why you at first thought it dated earlier than it is.. ..visiting in the nineties felt a little like stepping into an old sepia photograph of one's parents' or something.. ..it was a great trip, and has stuck with me, especially the long train ride Moscow to Sochi and the unexpected beautiful greenery of the mountains nr the Black Sea. I think my main concluding thoughts on this dear lad are that I think I could get along with him just fine and why is he an inpatient, how did this happen (I guess we don't know..) Although some of your explanations are quite plausible and possibly correct, I also wonder how much a person's character and personality and sense of humour plays a part, esp somewhere like Russia or Poland -I remember being told a few things about differences in cultural behaviour before going there, ie how, in general they can tend more toward straight facedness and some will view people who smile a lot (too much?!) as being a bit 'simple'/stupid.. ..or, the other way around, how some visiting may find some there quite straightfaced/not very facially expressive.. ..This was a while back.. ..I was young.. ..just post ussr.. ..I think in general we found this more with the grown ups than the young people.. ..re this chap trying to remember stuff; I can imagine it would be annoying having someone but in on your train of thought when you are trying to get your brain to recall something (no pun intended!).. ...or, for some, even simply the constant stream of questions.. ..aii! Some are more naturally thinkers and listeners than speakers.. If you got this far, and want to reply, put a globe emoji at the start! 😅 Thanks for the interesting vids, K (:
Wow mmm I guess I can tell I have a schizoaffective bipolar family: My mother had late onset schizophrenia and her sister Bipolar disorder. Anxiety, that risk our kids can inherited from their father side. I hope u will never stop visiting a psychiatric psychiatrist so you will remain balanced, also, I hope soon there will be genetic therapy for all those disorders/diseases (maybe you could participate in future researches on this field) Feel well!❤
@@empress2529 i actually stopped all my phycology treatment now. i don't have schizoaffective, but autism with psychos (and still all the other stuff). i had to stop because of the year chang over appointment not being able to get to it. ive been looking around for free online therapy because im out of work and i don't have a car. there's no such thing as free therapy but i do have 3 free sessions as a trial coming up but soon i will have to look around again.
@@LewisEthridge_95I hope you are okay and still seeking the right treatment if you haven’t found it yet. The right resources may be scarce and hard to find but they are improving quickly for schizophrenia, including schizoaffective. Neuroscience research is turning everything many people thought on its head. I’ve had a lot of unaware doctors and wasn’t able to advocate for myself. Now I’ve found the right help. I wish you the same ❤
Dr. Syl I've a question. In a few of your videos you mention that causes are likely to be related to 'Dopamine' issues - I've recently become aware of some studies or at least some interpretation of studies which say, in relation to SSRIs: "The medication works, but not in the way we thought. We thought SSRIs worked on a 'chemical imbalance' - but now it seems this is not correct" Can you comment on this please?
What he was saying about the trains and the lights turning a bunch of different colors didn’t quite seem logical to me, but that might just be the fact that I’m trying to read so quickly, have no technical knowledge of trains and the fact that it’s translated. I’d have to go back and really try to follow along
Note the simple easy maths questions as opposed to the confusion derailment created by “7x8” . hebephrenic(Bleulers terminology not currently used) schizophrenics can constantly be responding by smiling and laughing at unseen stimulus. In the night time the voices can become nightmarish derogatory taunts that they screams back at.
To the best of my understanding the DSM 5 and perhaps even ICD10 have removed the specifiers for subtypes of schizophrenia (no more paranoid schizophrenia or catatonic schizophrenia and so on). I appreciate your sharing this video as an example of extremely disorganized thought and behavior but to advertise it as a subtype of schizophrenia is inaccurate at this time based on current diagnostic criteria used today.
I am studying to become a clinical psychologist. Currently doing psychopathology subject. Recently discovered your channel... what a great resource to help with understanding different disorders. Please continue to make more videos. Thank you. 😊 🚂🚅🚈🚉🚆🚇🚄
Not sure if it has been mentioned, but I feel like him saying he'll throw himself under a train may be more of evaluation of his circumstances and lack of perceived employability, rather than an actual intent. Sort of like a 'this is the only thing I know, so if this doesn't work out I've got nothing left.' Definitely not a healthy mindset, but easy to sympathize with for people who for whatever reason aren't able to pursue the career they have been working towards.
Did you succeed your training? I have schizophrenia, like suffering from telepathy and sensetory hallucinations.. Like someone is tapping my leg etc... Iam on Clozapine, 100 milligrams a day, mainly to help me sleep. Was on more, but didn't help just made me feel "Haldollic"... Doing great, no problems with real people or police in 20 years! (1977)
why is it that you talked about Metro: Last Light and then 20 seconds later he starts talking about metros out of nowhere, seeming driven to do so? Do you find that odd? I understand causality "doesn't work that way" but it strikes me as extremely odd. Also the reason he was getting focused is because he was listing those metro stations in order and was trying to get the order correct. The doctor didn't realize that. I believe he was visualizing the rail line. He seems autistic.
Love your channel, love brains who dont work properly 🎉 also love trains.... my grandad worked for the dutch rail road. We are all a bit mad tbh. 🚄🚅🚈🚉🚊🚝🚞🚋 trains, planes and auto mobiles 😅
i was on lithium(1rst grade antipsychotic) and it scared my kidneys. now Im on a transplant list to get a new kidney. meds and their side-effects are no joke. the meds I've been on made me feel like was a zombie, i could barely function.
Is attention relative to hyperfixation though on a basic level? Your comment on his frustration about his inability to name the fingers and how attention is involved made me wonder. Because you later counter that interpretation of the behaviour using the example of listing the train stations, so I'm thinking, is that moment an actual display of attention, or does the fact that this is a specific interest of his and compulsion comes into play only to "move" the process to a different part of the brain and change the nature of the process? (I hope the wording is fine, if any part of it is incomprehensible or insensitive, apologies in advance, I'm not a native speaker!)
🚂🚃🚄🚅🚆🚇🚈🚉🚊🚝 Congratulations!! You're going to be excellent in your field and will help a lot of people. You show great compassion and caring for others, and you have a calm, gentle demeanour that is quite comforting and reassuring. You'll do very well in your chosen field of medicine. :) This was quite fascinating to me! Various human conditions related to the mind, whether it's mental illness or dementia (I work with the elderly and have cared for people with early onset dementia) or brain injuries, etc., have always been of great interest to me. Physical stuff, not so much, but when it comes to the mind, I'm incredibly interested. Thank-you so much for sharing your insights with various things through your videos. It really helps to have actual people who've been observed and for someone to react to videos of them as they go through various stages or phases of their conditions. When you were talking about being focused on a task until it's done, and just having to get it done and becoming hyper focused on that one thing, that's exactly what happens to me when I'm at my worst with my OCD. Most of the time I can manage it and feel fine without having to get every single thing just so, as I like it, but it does happen when I'm feeling stressed or unsettled or tired. I saw a bit of myself in Anton in the video, especially when he was bound and determined to list all the metro station names just as he felt they should be listed. Then, just like with him when he was done just as he wanted to be done, there's a great sense of relief and elation when a task is done just as I want it to be. It can be quite frustrating, as I just want to get something finished as it needs to be, and sometimes I do have to start a routine or sequence over in order to feel that I've gotten it right. When I'm in that mode, I just have to go through with it and get it done. I'm alone a lot, partly because I'm an introvert who lives alone with my cat and I work nights in a place where there's just one staff member on at night, and so when I go through OCD things, it's rarely ever seen by anyone else, but people are aware of it. Like I said earlier, most of the time I'm fine, but sometimes it does crop up and I have to go through my various routines and the like, just like Anton in the video with listing the metro stations.
I thought it was from the 80's! Looks liked they where behind fashion. Mind you that the wall only was fallen 5 years earlier! So did comminisme! Who did the bad blurry job? I can still see his eyes!🤔🤨
For all the people saying it is autism just remember, they had the case history to work from. Autism is has onset from child birth where as schizophrenia has a significantly later onset. Not difficult to tell apart if you have the appropriate case history but you will not get that from a video like this.
hi there, just a question you said 'back in the day they use to classify schizophrenia into different subtypes' so my question is does that mean now they have stopped categorising them into different subtypes?
MY 18 year old schizo son off meds broke into my brother room when he went to work and said he dead he not coming back ....and I told my son yes he is and my son stole stuff in his room amd kept saying repeat he dead ....I told him no and then when my brother came back my son ask y I lie and he said I lied and lied and got mad at me is my son dangerous
Just u need to know that half of the underground stations that he is spoke about was opened 10-15 years later! I saw his actual social network account - on the photos was not young puffy dirty man who was obsessed of Lolita type girls
im schizophrenic, id rather die than have the pills. The worst trauma in my life is from psychiatrists and their minions. I feel sorry for you. You seem so interested and wanting to help and kind of innocent and eager, but you are going to hurt people. You are going to be part of a system that kills people and hurts people. Its like watching kids so excited to be accepted into the police academy. Such hopeful kids, and they are just going to be a bad apple in the barrel eventually.
There are new APs coming out all the time. The atypical antipsychotics have terrible side effects but new ones are released regularly. Please investigate lurasidone and aripiprazole - they are both very tolerable
Yeah, it would be impossible for me say the alphabet backwards. I've had some strange adaptations in my illness. For example, we were playing a game where you throw sticks in a pile and asked how many sides and other weird questions. Without knowing that it was my friend's hands curled up, I started to get them all right without knowing it myself. It scared me. They try to say, "I have control," with the mind stuff. No, I don't. Remember when you were trying to freak me out, and I ignored you until you made me notice you were there? There's nothing I can do about it. They can torment me in many ways, and they have. They're full of their own lies. I lost most of my youth due to their stupidity and now have no skills. "Outland" by Celldweller. Now it's free love or weak love? America only brings you to your lowest point and then walks away. You can't have any life when they do that. They will always come back for more. And 8.5 months of agony due to my need for attention, not to mention all the times I went to the ER until they kicked me out when "passing out" is not a sign of low potassium--not bulimic then. Something is wrong. Even the ones who want peace and justice can't get me away from harm or help when I was in "Outland."21 in the actual hospital stays, plus 6 months originally. Something is wrong. It's not like I enjoyed my time there. They saw it on a scan three years later. Something is wrong. What happened, the pressure released in my brain. I'm not sure, but a lot of what the internet said, we die when that happens or many do. I hung upside down. You have not seen the things I've seen from ailments. Cizin is classic. When they had me in a holding room, I knew he was behind me. He would have liked me to turn around, yeah, he would have liked that, nope, the nice nursing is injecting something in my ass that will knock me out. I'm waiting patiently for their grand idea to explode and me to make a few phone calls in claims. That was rude and illegal. Want to talk about suffering and human rights, you effing shitholes? You let Marilyn Manson run around doing horrible things to ordinary people who graze in the background, not much to find there in us. Now who do I have a crush on? My head is not rent free.
I'm confused. The video you're watching, is in another language? I've watched a few of your reaction videos. They're really great. But this one has me so confused! Also, why are his eyes blurred out?
He's following the video through the subtitles, if that's what you were confused by. As for why his eyes are blurred out, it might be to somewhat protect the identity of the person filmed. It is kind of badly done though, you can clearly see his eyes at certain points.
when he asked about being able to multiply 7x8 i’m gonna be real with you id need a pen and paper to get that answer and i’m pretty intelligent for someone with SZ is that actually related to schizophrenia though or is that related to a lack of use? Do NTs not relate to that?
Well the education system in Russia (and especially back in the USSR) is pretty good and I can guarantee you that even the least educated person in the country can answer that question at least within 10-20 seconds without a pen and a paper. Of course, a neurotypical person, I mean
He doesn’t have schizophrenia. It’s a ACD. I was born in Ukraine and Speak Russian. Also, he named train stations that weren’t open yet and wouldn’t be for five or 10 years! And then he says that he receives 40 bucks disability pension and says, how can you survive on those money? He says it’s not normal.
Hi! I'm a pediatritian from Russia. The doctor in this video was actually my psychiatry professor in med scool many many years later after this footage was filmed. So, i thought, maybe I could provide some context :)
So, this footage was filmed in the mid 90'th in a University clinic in Moscow. Psychiatry in Russia has a particularly complicated and controversial history, as psychiatric hospitals were extensively used by the government during the Soviet time to detain people they considered to be dangerous for the regime. Unfortunately, I don't think that russian psychiatry has completely overcome the effects of it's tragic past even today, as it has basically stagnated during those years, or even developed in the wrong direction.
We've reviewed and discussed this footage on one of my CME classes on child and adolescent psychiatry recently. And we've come to the conclusion that the young man in this video likely does not have a schizophrenia, but rather some form of ASD. And that some of his difficulties that we see on this footage can likely be attributed to him being treated for an illness he did not have and not receiving the help he actually needed.
Of course, it's hard to say anything with certainty now, after nearly 3 decades, but in that historical and social context this version seems to be entirely plausible.
thank you for adding this valuable context! i also felt like he had ASD and understood his movements as stimming. i move in a similar way and so does my brother who has ASD.
I thought his symptoms lined up more with ASD then Schizophrenia.
Was there any news on where he is now in life? Also, thank you for adding context and the ASD input. Makes a lot of sense.
Sending love and peace from Raccoon Nation USA ❤
My lineage has similar affect. It is autistic, but I have both autism from father and schitz from mother's side. It's a sort of crossbreed, the schitz affect stuff isn't as severe as say hearing voices .. but 'suggestive ideas', 'disordered thinking' 'strange preoccupation' and the rest of the usual battery of symptom suspects etc. It's very similar to say what I have read up on anomic aphasia, though different. I believe all of these various diagnoses are of the same family .. some autism variants, schitz, adhd.
My best guess is that they're all downstream of genetic and/or indirect epigenetic damage. Essentially, primarily a loss of regulatory brain function, a loss of Purkinje neuron clusters in the cerebellum, and oversized early amygdlaa (6 months-2 years) and later unusual or undersized amygdala.
The effects vary of course, but the craziest part is every case I've seen from my own research that has a similar family of effects is that the face and skin or prerhaps heredity are uncanny similar in some aspects. It could be a visible sign of this variant of dmaage, but that's possibly a long shot.
As an autistic woman, this young man looks like he has a lot of familiar behaviors.... Before I was correctly diagnosed with autism, I was given antipsychotics and it did made me unable to think (significantly lowered my IQ while I took them), and also got me so hyper that I seemed like I was having a manic episode. I do understand antipsychotics are great for people who need them, they reestablish the chemistry balance. But when you don't need them, it actually creates an unbalance and that should make you (doctor) question wether the diagnosis is actually the correct one.
There's a pretty significant comorbidity between the two as well, especially when stemming from genetic disorders some of which he possibly shows physical traits of. He would probably benefit from genetic testing as some of them are associated with other serious health issues, though of course this was filmed nearly 30 years ago.
Your absolutely right.its done the same for my son and I don't know if he will get better or can he even be put off them and how
Right?? Austism wasn’t as well diagnosed back then so it’s completely possible he was misdiagnosed or at least not all of the aspects of his behavior is due to the schizophrenia. Even just the way he’s sitting
I’m also autistic and I very much recognized a lot of his behavior as some of my own (although, it different ways). 🚂🚂
Thats a great explanation .
In the "beginning of footage" you asked if its innapropriate or not to smile.
I speak Russian and I understand enough to tell that they are speaking Russian as well, if this was filmed in Russia or not do note that Russians consider it to be off-putting/innapropriate to smile without reason.
That is all I can provide in terms of information but it may at least fill in contextualization and whatnot.
I read that prior to the Olympics (I think it was the Olympics) being held in Russia, hundreds of service staff had to be trained to smile while dealing with tourists.
This is SUCH a good use for UA-cam! I'm learning quite a bit about numerous topics of my personal interest. When I got out of high school in the 1970's, I only wished we had such excellent access to information as this. And now we do! So thank you for finding another excellent use for this marvelous platform. Long may UA-cam wave!
You can learn literally anything on UA-cam. I learned calculus, intro physics, general and organic chemistry, and trigonometry on UA-cam. I’m living for this much access to knowledge. I’ve had so much fun
Meanwhile gen Z: "woaah, cat videos ❤"
Congratulations! That’s fantastic news. You’re going to be a great psychiatrist and we need more of them.
My wife and I took the train 🚂 across Canada for our honeymoon. We just got back yesterday from a long weekend in New Orleans to celebrate our 10th anniversary!
Congratulations.
Congratulations on your acceptance on the program! Wishing you the best! :)
As an autistic person, this seems like autism to me, and it seems like I'm not the only one who sees it.
Same. I realized his autism symptoms almost immediately. But I didn't really know where would the psychosis be seen
@@camfg8908 exactly it seems so obvious!
Very interesting. His behavior to me seems more autistic. He is distracted, intelligent, with fixed interests, and repetitive behaviors. Emotional lability could also be explained by autism. Like you mentioned, there were some derailments but otherwise thoughts are organized, though illogical at times. Maybe it was delusional thinking in the beginning when he said the men in room three beat him, but not outside the realm of possibility.
Yes both. I have both.
As an autistic person who interviewed undred of other autistic adults, being mistreated, even severely abused, by caregivers (either family or professionnals) is not uncommon at all... Alternatively, if he was having meltdowns, even if the caregivers are just trying to calm you, physical touch can be feeled/perceived very harsh (even painful) by the autistic person and thus be interpreted as assault even if there was no intent from the caregiver to be abusive. Both are also possible, I know a few autistic people who have delusional thinking. But very often we're accused of having delusional thinking when actually we're perceiving a situation correctly, but we have difficulty putting into words in a way to be understood by other people. Or we have interpreted a situation in a concrete way, when there was some "obvious" hidden way to interpret it.
I'm autistic (and I haven't finished watching) but this is what I thought too.
Its very possible that it's not autism or it's a combination. It's hard to know just from a clip
To my understanding the hebephrenic schizophrenia and autism are quite close and I am sure there are some misdiagnosed people on either site. Unfortunately diagnosing mental illness isn't as easy as with physical illnesses. If a leg is broken you can see it on the X-Ray; but if a person is in between things with their symptoms there's no X-Ray you can take.
He shows a lot of symptoms for autism but also for hebephrenic schizophrenia.
I hop this young man was diagnosed correctly and got the right help.
@@isabellefaguy7351 I was treated like an indentured servant for 5 decades. My family abused me in all the worst ways imaginable. I am free now :)
These kinds of videos are how I first found your channel. I really enjoy them and I hope you're able to do more in the future.
That’s the plan!
I love these videos. My mother has early on set dementia and went through several stages where psychosis and delusions were common. I would love to find more videos where doctors discussed different symptoms of different types of dementia other than just memory loss.
@PhysicsRoxs these are great videos, and you're right - seeing videos related to dementia that deal with more than just the memory loss would be great. There's much, much more to know about dementia than just that.
I work as a residential care aide in an assisted living facility, but I've also worked in long term care and have cared for people with various forms and stages of dementia. I've always felt it quite fascinating, but, much more importantly, it's always been made very clear it is to me to have a gentle touch when helping those with dementia, especially when they have a dementia in which they have things like psychosis and delusions and they're at their highest peaks of these.
Some people I've worked with have tried to reason with people with dementia, despite the people we're caring for not being able to be reasoned with. It was taught to me, and I've always followed this, that, unless a person is causing harm or is in danger because of their delusions, when they're "off in their own world," so to speak, to just leave them be. Just go along with it and help them where they are, and that works quite well. I've usually been able to find a way to get them to do what I need them to do, like go for a bath or to meals or to bed, by letting them stay where they are in their mind.
I hope that your mother is getting the very best care possible and that you and the rest of her loved ones are also being cared for, as it's not easy when people we care about are going through things like dementia in any form.
🚂🚂🚂 Just found your channel today and enjoying these reaction videos. I have schizoaffective disorder and have for 40 years. I'm doing way better now than in my 20's 30's and 40's I started to improve in my 50's. From what I've been told I acted quite bizarre in my early years. I like to think I'm rather bland now
Wow, that's terrible being locked up and beaten. He clearly said he wanted to leave and was hurt in the hospital. What's the treatment at a hospital? Alienation&prison ? Schizophrenia symptoms can be significantly reduced naturally with an open dialogue professional do research let's end this horrible stigmatized pathologized people
My son had autsim and psttnof the treatment was beating and forced medicine to make him get diabetes, tacahardia and not when don't recognise me and is in pain.
I'm begging the NHS in the UK to please stop harming him...
@mobi2377 wow that's awful, I hope you can find some help, social worker or someone who actually listens to get him real help
@@ikr2377maybe speak to a therapist about your concerns
Very educational and not only on hebephrenic schizophrenia - I can now successfully navigate the Moscow Metro despite having never been there! Other than in Metro Exodus ;)
Congrats on the good news!! 👍🏼 Good on ya ❤
Just found your videos today ... I have a younger brother with paranoia schizophrenia. Your videos are very informative.
Ive been in hospital a lot for my bipolar, and I hate when they ask the "a rolling stone gathers no moss" or their favorite "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Even now I couldn't tell you the answer without looking it up.
English is not my first language, so I have never heard of those sayings. But I kinda have an image what they could mean
@@jax99888English is my only language and I do not understand what is meant of either of these....I would imagine people shouldn't throw stones from within a glass house for the obvious, but don't get why a stone wouldn't eventually gather moss with time. I'm sure there must be some non-literal meaning to both but I've never heard it
@@stephE80I think the rolling stone stone proverb can actually be interpreted quite literally: if a stone is constantly rolling, it is impossible (or at least far less likely) for plants (eg moss) to grow on it, because the stone is always being scratched and bumped by whatever surfaces it's rolling over, which knocks any potential plants off of it.
If you interpret it metaphorically, the stone represent a human being... always "rolling", aka moving from one place to another... which makes it impossible (or unlikely or difficult) for that person to "gather moss" aka collect things such as a family, friends, career, responsibilities etc.
Whether that's a good or bad thing, is entirely up to the person in question, I'd say. So this proverb doesn't feel like an inherently negative or positive saying to me.
If a person wants a family, maybe stop "rolling" and settle down somewhere. (Or take your family along and form a pack of rolling stones, LOL.)
If a person wants to live a more carefree life, by all means keep "rolling" and entering into fun but possibly brief different adventures all over the place.
@@stephE80The glass house proverb is more of a Game of Assumptions, to be honest...
What would you expect to happen if a person "A" throws a stone? My automatic assumptions: 1) person "A" is throwing the stone at another person, 2) that other person will want to get revenge, and 3) that other person will throw a stone back at person "A". That's when the glass house comes into play: if person "A" lives in a glass house... and assumption 4) they quickly run and hide in it... the stone will hit the house instead, which is made of glass, and hence will shatter.
Conclusion / lesson learned by person "A": if I live in a glass house, I should not throw stones, because someone might throw one back, and my house will be damaged.
Metaphorical interpretation: if my life is very visible for all of my family & friends (eg I am very open about it or I post it all over social media) ... and I tell a friend that they did something stupid ... they might just search through my socials for a mistake that I've made ... and then throw that (figuratively speaking) in my face in revenge. Aka, if I know I've made mistakes (and they can be found), it is unwise for me to comment on other people's mistakes.
The 'problem' with all the assumptions is:
What if the stone thrower is throwing their stone into a pond, not at a person?
What if the other person simply runs for their life, or forgives the thrower, or would simply never dare to throw a stone back?
What if the stone thrower doesn't hide in their glass house, but stands far away from it, meaning a stone-in-return would never hit their house?
If someone's mind creates a different storyline during the literal interpretation of this proverb, they're understandably not going to come to the same conclusions and make the same comparisons as someone who makes the, I guess, default and expected assumptions.
And who's to say that someone whose mind simply goes to "person A must be skipping stones in a pond, how fun, and they just happen to live in a glass house" doesn't have the more happy mind to live with. By default assuming person A is pelting another person and the whole situation is going to turn into a stone throwing war is actually not a very nice assumption to make.
Long story short---next time someone asks you what this proverb means, simply ask the question in return: "In your narrative of the world, or mine?" :)
You have concrete thinking. That's what they're checking for when they ask you those proverbs/adages. If you have significant problems with abstract thinking, I would question that bipolar diagnosis. It's much more suggestive of a schizophrenia spectrum disorder.
Have a family member with schizophrenia…these videos help everyone understand…which in turns helps those who struggle ❤
Great analysis, thank you! Looking forward to more. 🚉🚄🚋🚈🛤
All too often, psychiatrists mistake signs of autism for psychosis. It apparently happened in Russian in the 90s, and it continues today globally - including in my own country, the United States.
Congratulations from Perth WA❤. Thank you for making mental health knowledge a little more accessible. Love seeing your take on these cases.
So many perfectly mentally and cognitively healthy people get the "which is heavier" question wrong, if they haven't been asked it before. I know it was used in my school to *teach* kids to learn not to just answer questions without thinking them through thoroughly first.
aside from the fact that we don't know what his state was like before the meds, I think he's not schizophrenic, not in the least. Hebephrenia, delayed emotional development -- yes. If not for the body of a young man/late teen, his responses (both verbal and an accompanying affect) would be totally appropriate for a bright 8 year old who REALLY likes trains. And is fidgety and quickly switches topics as is expected of an 8 year old.
Getting beat up by violent patients on a closed ward is entirely realistic for a Soviet/Post-Soviet mental asylum.
So, no disordered or inappropriate affect, no disordered thinking, no reported hallucinations or other psychotic symptoms, fidgeting appropriate to side effects of early anti-psychotics, loss of task focus appropriate with retarded emotional development. Cognitive skills etc are those of a (roughly) 8 year old.
I have schizophrenia and I remember at the onset my mind being entirely helpless and it’s not like physical exhaustion but all mental and emotional aspects of the mind are helpless and exhausted to nothing. It’s a very vulnerable state to be in because my mind couldn’t do important things like be discerning and judge the value of information and I couldn’t be assertive either and I had no context for a lot of things. It’s like mental poverty kind of. It’s bad to get bullied in a state of helplessness, because I internalised the attitudes of my bullies as my own attitudes about my self and it’s very upsetting. And I tried to make a reality type of thing with just random information that came my way but the majority of it was useless trash, but that’s what I had to work with and then I wasn’t clear thinking and I made some very abnormal decisions, and ended up doing abnormal behaviour.
I think these kinds of videos are interesting and your comments gives a nice insight to things as well.
Thank you!
@@DrSyl you're welcome. Btw, just a thought, do you have any opinions or diagnosis for today's people who believe in crazy conspiracy theories like the q-thing and all? Can you make a video of mass delucions/psychosis or mass hysteria etc? 🤔
Congratulations on getting into the psychiatry program. Fantastic news.
Huge congrats on getting into psych! That's really huge. I know little about that disease i can never spell, except that it seems like something that can very a lot person to person and type type. I wish you tremendous luck with the specialty, but I'm sure you'll be great. I mean yes, i don't know you at all as a person outside of a few videos, but you certainly come off like a smart guy. Drink a lot of water, get a lot of sleep, and you should be ok.
And i could be very wrong, since i don't speak the language, but I'm guessing that clip was Russian, since lots of das and K's.
Any idea why they were blurring his face for the majority of the video but stopped part way through?
🚊🚞🚂🚆🚅🚄 really glad I found your channel.
New sub from Idaho!! I love your videos, there's so many cases I never even heard of that you cover. Keep it up, doc!
Late onset Schizophrenia, I wish you will make a video about this. Our late mother was diagnosed with this. We even had to explain that this disease can appear after the age of 45 to an senior psychiatric expert in ADHD.. probably because when he studied in the U, by the DSM-III the symptoms must have appeared before the age of 45.
I was surprised too...
With a complex psychiatric family history: Cool & fun aunt w Bipolar Disorder, complicated aunt w Border Personality.... I assumed that by 30 yrs old I would have figured out already, if I inherited those faulty genes.
Now I will need to wait until, forever?
I would need to add Schizophrenia to the family future risks: Early onset Alzheimer (My Mom, her father and a nephew of him, plus a half brother (same father) of my Mom, but not at an early age) & ALS (another cousin of my Mom). All, from the same Ashkenazi Jew side of the family :/
i have two nephews with ASD, a brother with Schizophrenia misdiagnosed---actually has OCD and asd....a cousin borderline, psychotic grandfather, narcissism in sister (extreme and toxic) she also has OCD....she is the Mom of one of the nephews with ASD.... Grandson with ASD and possible ADHD, age 4. Older grandson with OCD and hoarding issues. Son with anxiety and also now realizing bi-polar. Also in second generation is brain cancer.
Wow you two. Crike. Families are never straightforward huh..
I was adopted into a family with like no issues (other than cancer and alcoholism) and I have anxiety, depression, probably autism and adhd, and possible ocd but very mild. I have no idea what my family history is, but I know my birth mother was addicted to drugs when I was born and I was taken away from day 1. It’s pretty crazy what can run through your genes and affect your entire life just because your parents carried those genes
@@beesquestionmark People with ADHD, may have obsession behavior and rituals, which are similar to mild OCD, yeap. Hopefully you are on treatment for the depression and anxiety, wish you feel well (maybe you can make a DNA test in order to find family members)
what is the example of delusion in this video? How do you know they didn't actually beat him?
Delusions of persecution is the bread and butter of psychotic disorders.
He definitely reads to me as autistic (i am autistic), but its hard to know in just one video
Love it when you do these types of videos. Please keep doing them! Choo choo!
It’s wonderful to know that ppl are learning more about this subtype of schizophrenia 🤗 I’d love to see you react to Anderson Cooper experiencing a simulation of
Schizophrenia 2:39
This is interesting. My dad was an occupational therapist who worked at the Veterans Administration in the psychiatric unit. He had patients that sounded very much like this. Ask them about what they were doing and they’d answer, Chevrolet! Interesting indeed!
One more note from Russian: the doctor wasn't asking if the guy likes girls or boys, it was more of an interesting in the intimacy in general. Literal translation is correct, yes, but the context is a bit different.
If he is *really interested in trains* (very common in autism)--might want to talk about them--yeah autism (I think he seems more disorganized than most autistic people (I'm on the spectrum). You can have both though. In fact, we are at higher risk. (Oops you said that). I wondered re: repetitive movements---could also be tardive dyskinesia (toxic effect of the old anti-psychotics). You just said that too. Very happy you made it into the program! You seem like a super sensitive person. Congrats.
I am enjoying your vid÷os. My best friend has Schizophrenia. He just recently went in t[ blown psychosis. So he is off for a lengthy hospital stay😢. I know he will, Ok But first, he needs care.
I learn as much as much as I can about what goes on in his head
For a bit of context, I believe this is not a first assessment but rather a check in with a patient on the ward. Some patients of this doctor claim they've never seen him before when in reality he's been their doctor for years. I like this series, the doctor and some other doctors who are present during questioning are friendly.
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 already my favorite future psychiatrist 🎉🎉
I live with schizoaffective disorder and my husband has ASD. I also recognize the ASD traits more strongly than the schizophrenic.
Beaten, not treated with kindness. How about that as for an explanation..
Cooperation is assumed when he hasn't been seen in early childhood.
It's a regressive functioning. He makes you feel the way he has been made to feel, confused.
And instead of becoming angry because of the deprivation he has experienced he chooses to collapse awereness of it.
Metro is dessert, very popular in Middle and Eastern Europe. It looks like metro. Maybe that´s where his association to the train comes from.
He literally talked about Moscow metro very accurately
A friend who had schizophrenia said it was like being out in the rain without an umbrella.
It really looked like he was stimming when he was talking about the trains and the sounds they make.
Hebephrenic is a new word for me though I've been familiar with the word hebephilia for quite some time.
I've heard it is now called disorganized schizophrenia.
When you react to this type of video I’d love it if you gave a possible treatment scenario and what the chances are for these people of any kind of recovery into a somewhat normal knife outside of a hospital.
I am one day older than this poor kid. That makes this 1995, considering he is 19 at the time. (8:41 I guess they cleared that up for us)..
Seems like he was waiting for an opportunity to talk about what he was passionate about, and that’s where the dialogue conversation ended. He went in on a tangent and that was completely “The Anton Show”. I can see how that will be exhausting te be around, but he looked like a sweet boy.
I don´t think it´s the "anton show", it´s the "metro show". This doesn´t seem to be about him wanting to stand in the spotlight, this is about him being very, very fascinated by a certain topic.
🚝🚆🚇 Interesting. Was picking up on some of the language here and there primarily due to similarities to Ukrainian which I've been doing on Duolingo and secondarily because I went on exchange to Russia just a year or so before this video. -and yes, it is understandable why you at first thought it dated earlier than it is.. ..visiting in the nineties felt a little like stepping into an old sepia photograph of one's parents' or something.. ..it was a great trip, and has stuck with me, especially the long train ride Moscow to Sochi and the unexpected beautiful greenery of the mountains nr the Black Sea.
I think my main concluding thoughts on this dear lad are that I think I could get along with him just fine and why is he an inpatient, how did this happen (I guess we don't know..)
Although some of your explanations are quite plausible and possibly correct, I also wonder how much a person's character and personality and sense of humour plays a part, esp somewhere like Russia or Poland -I remember being told a few things about differences in cultural behaviour before going there, ie how, in general they can tend more toward straight facedness and some will view people who smile a lot (too much?!) as being a bit 'simple'/stupid.. ..or, the other way around, how some visiting may find some there quite straightfaced/not very facially expressive.. ..This was a while back.. ..I was young.. ..just post ussr.. ..I think in general we found this more with the grown ups than the young people..
..re this chap trying to remember stuff; I can imagine it would be annoying having someone but in on your train of thought when you are trying to get your brain to recall something (no pun intended!).. ...or, for some, even simply the constant stream of questions.. ..aii! Some are more naturally thinkers and listeners than speakers..
If you got this far, and want to reply, put a globe emoji at the start! 😅
Thanks for the interesting vids, K (:
i have schizoaffective bipolar type and OCD CPTSD and anxiety disorder.
Wow mmm I guess I can tell I have a schizoaffective bipolar family: My mother had late onset schizophrenia and her sister Bipolar disorder. Anxiety, that risk our kids can inherited from their father side.
I hope u will never stop visiting a psychiatric psychiatrist so you will remain balanced, also, I hope soon there will be genetic therapy for all those disorders/diseases (maybe you could participate in future researches on this field)
Feel well!❤
@@empress2529 i actually stopped all my phycology treatment now. i don't have schizoaffective, but autism with psychos (and still all the other stuff). i had to stop because of the year chang over appointment not being able to get to it. ive been looking around for free online therapy because im out of work and i don't have a car. there's no such thing as free therapy but i do have 3 free sessions as a trial coming up but soon i will have to look around again.
@@LewisEthridge_95I hope you are okay and still seeking the right treatment if you haven’t found it yet. The right resources may be scarce and hard to find but they are improving quickly for schizophrenia, including schizoaffective. Neuroscience research is turning everything many people thought on its head. I’ve had a lot of unaware doctors and wasn’t able to advocate for myself. Now I’ve found the right help. I wish you the same ❤
Dr. Syl I've a question. In a few of your videos you mention that causes are likely to be related to 'Dopamine' issues - I've recently become aware of some studies or at least some interpretation of studies which say, in relation to SSRIs:
"The medication works, but not in the way we thought. We thought SSRIs worked on a 'chemical imbalance' - but now it seems this is not correct"
Can you comment on this please?
"A typical case of derailment, no pun intnded"??! This should be fully intended, gold pun right there!!! Greetings from Germany!
What he was saying about the trains and the lights turning a bunch of different colors didn’t quite seem logical to me, but that might just be the fact that I’m trying to read so quickly, have no technical knowledge of trains and the fact that it’s translated. I’d have to go back and really try to follow along
He was 100 per cent accurate . The only fascinating and weird things that he mentioned metro stations that were not even built that time
@@junglesuperstar9270 He talked a lot to metro personnel. There’s a plan of metro development, too. He learnt those station names from there.
I feel like basically the description of schizophrenia was like saying welcome to 2023 post-pandemic world where everybody is now schizophrenic😂😂😂
I would lose my mind, stop talking, or bully the interviewer for asking so many rapid fire questions one right after the other
Note the simple easy maths questions as opposed to the confusion derailment created by “7x8” . hebephrenic(Bleulers terminology not currently used) schizophrenics can constantly be responding by smiling and laughing at unseen stimulus. In the night time the voices can become nightmarish derogatory taunts that they screams back at.
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I really love those videos. You made me discover soft white underbelly the other day, and I'm binge watching it since
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To the best of my understanding the DSM 5 and perhaps even ICD10 have removed the specifiers for subtypes of schizophrenia (no more paranoid schizophrenia or catatonic schizophrenia and so on). I appreciate your sharing this video as an example of extremely disorganized thought and behavior but to advertise it as a subtype of schizophrenia is inaccurate at this time based on current diagnostic criteria used today.
He does specify that these subtypes were used "back in the day". Not sure if you missed that part?
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Not sure if it has been mentioned, but I feel like him saying he'll throw himself under a train may be more of evaluation of his circumstances and lack of perceived employability, rather than an actual intent. Sort of like a 'this is the only thing I know, so if this doesn't work out I've got nothing left.' Definitely not a healthy mindset, but easy to sympathize with for people who for whatever reason aren't able to pursue the career they have been working towards.
Congratulations!
Sometimes I have deleted post online. I can't understand some of what I written. I deleted one here. It lacked prepositions. Filled with misspellings.
Did you succeed your training? I have schizophrenia, like suffering from telepathy and sensetory hallucinations.. Like someone is tapping my leg etc... Iam on Clozapine, 100 milligrams a day, mainly to help me sleep. Was on more, but didn't help just made me feel "Haldollic"... Doing great, no problems with real people or police in 20 years! (1977)
The feather and nail question is kinda unfair cause plenty of people in general can’t answer it correctly 😅
why is it that you talked about Metro: Last Light and then 20 seconds later he starts talking about metros out of nowhere, seeming driven to do so? Do you find that odd?
I understand causality "doesn't work that way" but it strikes me as extremely odd.
Also the reason he was getting focused is because he was listing those metro stations in order and was trying to get the order correct. The doctor didn't realize that. I believe he was visualizing the rail line. He seems autistic.
Love your channel, love brains who dont work properly 🎉 also love trains.... my grandad worked for the dutch rail road. We are all a bit mad tbh. 🚄🚅🚈🚉🚊🚝🚞🚋 trains, planes and auto mobiles 😅
i was on lithium(1rst grade antipsychotic) and it scared my kidneys. now Im on a transplant list to get a new kidney. meds and their side-effects are no joke. the meds I've been on made me feel like was a zombie, i could barely function.
When they ask me if I mind them using my assessment for ‘training purposes’ I tell them to sod off.
They say I am schizophrenic, well paranoid schizophrenic. Not easy but oh well.
Trying to get a sense of his his emotional state. While understanding his limitations.
doctor , have you met with book on sch. author Antoni Kepinski yet ?
Doc, if you think that Metro is a good game you should read a book by same title
Do you know if the subject consented to having this filmed and broadcasted?
He's lowkey rockin that disheveled hair look. lol
Is attention relative to hyperfixation though on a basic level? Your comment on his frustration about his inability to name the fingers and how attention is involved made me wonder. Because you later counter that interpretation of the behaviour using the example of listing the train stations, so I'm thinking, is that moment an actual display of attention, or does the fact that this is a specific interest of his and compulsion comes into play only to "move" the process to a different part of the brain and change the nature of the process?
(I hope the wording is fine, if any part of it is incomprehensible or insensitive, apologies in advance, I'm not a native speaker!)
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This was quite fascinating to me! Various human conditions related to the mind, whether it's mental illness or dementia (I work with the elderly and have cared for people with early onset dementia) or brain injuries, etc., have always been of great interest to me. Physical stuff, not so much, but when it comes to the mind, I'm incredibly interested. Thank-you so much for sharing your insights with various things through your videos. It really helps to have actual people who've been observed and for someone to react to videos of them as they go through various stages or phases of their conditions.
When you were talking about being focused on a task until it's done, and just having to get it done and becoming hyper focused on that one thing, that's exactly what happens to me when I'm at my worst with my OCD. Most of the time I can manage it and feel fine without having to get every single thing just so, as I like it, but it does happen when I'm feeling stressed or unsettled or tired. I saw a bit of myself in Anton in the video, especially when he was bound and determined to list all the metro station names just as he felt they should be listed. Then, just like with him when he was done just as he wanted to be done, there's a great sense of relief and elation when a task is done just as I want it to be. It can be quite frustrating, as I just want to get something finished as it needs to be, and sometimes I do have to start a routine or sequence over in order to feel that I've gotten it right. When I'm in that mode, I just have to go through with it and get it done.
I'm alone a lot, partly because I'm an introvert who lives alone with my cat and I work nights in a place where there's just one staff member on at night, and so when I go through OCD things, it's rarely ever seen by anyone else, but people are aware of it. Like I said earlier, most of the time I'm fine, but sometimes it does crop up and I have to go through my various routines and the like, just like Anton in the video with listing the metro stations.
I felt bad for him at the end, he seemed sad. I wonder how he's doing
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very interesting
Hebephranic
Is no longer a diagnosis
In the USA
And was removed from the
DSM quite some time ago
I thought it was from the 80's! Looks liked they where behind fashion. Mind you that the wall only was fallen 5 years earlier! So did comminisme! Who did the bad blurry job? I can still see his eyes!🤔🤨
🤔He looks like someone whos been through Years of diverse, cold, traumatic psychiatric "treatment", making whatever he has/ had, way worse.. 😥 ☮️🌏
For all the people saying it is autism just remember, they had the case history to work from. Autism is has onset from child birth where as schizophrenia has a significantly later onset. Not difficult to tell apart if you have the appropriate case history but you will not get that from a video like this.
hi there, just a question you said 'back in the day they use to classify schizophrenia into different subtypes' so my question is does that mean now they have stopped categorising them into different subtypes?
Yes, they no longer divide them into subtypes. You might occasionally hear paranoid schizophrenia but really they don't divide the types up.
He's 19 in the video, and says he was born in 1976, my guess is this video is happening in 1995.
MY 18 year old schizo son off meds broke into my brother room when he went to work and said he dead he not coming back ....and I told my son yes he is and my son stole stuff in his room amd kept saying repeat he dead ....I told him no and then when my brother came back my son ask y I lie and he said I lied and lied and got mad at me is my son dangerous
Get medical help for your son
Just u need to know that half of the underground stations that he is spoke about was opened 10-15 years later! I saw his actual social network account - on the photos was not young puffy dirty man who was obsessed of Lolita type girls
Congratulations
im schizophrenic, id rather die than have the pills. The worst trauma in my life is from psychiatrists and their minions. I feel sorry for you. You seem so interested and wanting to help and kind of innocent and eager, but you are going to hurt people. You are going to be part of a system that kills people and hurts people. Its like watching kids so excited to be accepted into the police academy. Such hopeful kids, and they are just going to be a bad apple in the barrel eventually.
There are new APs coming out all the time. The atypical antipsychotics have terrible side effects but new ones are released regularly. Please investigate lurasidone and aripiprazole - they are both very tolerable
Yeah, it would be impossible for me say the alphabet backwards. I've had some strange adaptations in my illness. For example, we were playing a game where you throw sticks in a pile and asked how many sides and other weird questions. Without knowing that it was my friend's hands curled up, I started to get them all right without knowing it myself. It scared me. They try to say, "I have control," with the mind stuff. No, I don't. Remember when you were trying to freak me out, and I ignored you until you made me notice you were there? There's nothing I can do about it. They can torment me in many ways, and they have. They're full of their own lies. I lost most of my youth due to their stupidity and now have no skills. "Outland" by Celldweller. Now it's free love or weak love? America only brings you to your lowest point and then walks away. You can't have any life when they do that. They will always come back for more. And 8.5 months of agony due to my need for attention, not to mention all the times I went to the ER until they kicked me out when "passing out" is not a sign of low potassium--not bulimic then. Something is wrong. Even the ones who want peace and justice can't get me away from harm or help when I was in "Outland."21 in the actual hospital stays, plus 6 months originally. Something is wrong. It's not like I enjoyed my time there. They saw it on a scan three years later. Something is wrong. What happened, the pressure released in my brain. I'm not sure, but a lot of what the internet said, we die when that happens or many do. I hung upside down. You have not seen the things I've seen from ailments. Cizin is classic. When they had me in a holding room, I knew he was behind me. He would have liked me to turn around, yeah, he would have liked that, nope, the nice nursing is injecting something in my ass that will knock me out. I'm waiting patiently for their grand idea to explode and me to make a few phone calls in claims. That was rude and illegal. Want to talk about suffering and human rights, you effing shitholes? You let Marilyn Manson run around doing horrible things to ordinary people who graze in the background, not much to find there in us. Now who do I have a crush on? My head is not rent free.
I'm confused. The video you're watching, is in another language? I've watched a few of your reaction videos. They're really great. But this one has me so confused! Also, why are his eyes blurred out?
He's following the video through the subtitles, if that's what you were confused by. As for why his eyes are blurred out, it might be to somewhat protect the identity of the person filmed. It is kind of badly done though, you can clearly see his eyes at certain points.
1. Early 00s. 2. Those videos meant to be teaching material for universities.
when he asked about being able to multiply 7x8 i’m gonna be real with you id need a pen and paper to get that answer and i’m pretty intelligent for someone with SZ is that actually related to schizophrenia though or is that related to a lack of use? Do NTs not relate to that?
Well the education system in Russia (and especially back in the USSR) is pretty good and I can guarantee you that even the least educated person in the country can answer that question at least within 10-20 seconds without a pen and a paper. Of course, a neurotypical person, I mean
Am I the only one who thinks he has some possible signs of ASD?
He doesn’t have schizophrenia. It’s a ACD. I was born in Ukraine and Speak Russian. Also, he named train stations that weren’t open yet and wouldn’t be for five or 10 years! And then he says that he receives 40 bucks disability pension and says, how can you survive on those money? He says it’s not normal.
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If he was born in 1976 and he was 19 at the time of this recording it would of been 1995
That’s exactly what date is it. He said in the beginning of the video it’s October 1995
From autistic person I kinda think he is on the spectrum. I see other comments saying same. Seems like this boy was miss diagnosed, which is very sad