I like how Title Defense Sandman is like a new Mike Tyson. It's like he's the spiritual successor to his NES fight without the constant insta kills, but still with the crazy fast punches, and even the winking
fun fact, if you lose to mr. sandman in title defense the next time you fight him the intro animation returns to the original version minus the part where doc is scared of mr.sandman
If we talking weight wise, i think king hippo beats him still. But if yoyr talking about position then yeah, why the hell was he champ of major circuit
Love that when he sees a three star punch coming he yells "NOOOO!" Was Mr. Sandman a fan of Doc Louis back when he was the champ? Maybe he recognizes the star punch.
@Chad Kroeger that would make sense. Like imagine if you were inspired to become a master boxer because of someone, you become the champion, and you realize someone else is their student which you probably would love to be the person's student.
@@jokerthekingly3708 also i have a theory the boxers that we beat in punch out i think they are trying kill mac you can tell by sandman's intro he literly breaks bulidings with his fist just his man at mac that shows at least he wants to kill him
I showed this to a few friends and they all claimed he looked "easy" and "didn't deserve boss titles" Those poor souls have never played a punch out game in their lives and have no clue what it's really like
Probably because they don't realize that all the punches mac does are specifically timed and how much damage Mr. sandman can put out to a slightly off guard player.
*some say that the last thing the interviewer saw was sandman making a face and saying "boo" before getting killed by him throwing 9 uppercuts in a row.*
I love how in title defense mode (Wii) Mr. Sandman is unbelieved that he's mached up with Little Mac. He just feels anger twords him, and wants his title back.
It’s funny how mr sandman is some how always the champion of the world in every game apart from mike Tyson’s punch out as well as in super punch out meaning he must of won a rematch with the previous main characters
@@Ysumbruh0 I’m the Will version I think he’s easiet Title Defense and Contender Dreamlands are easier to counter then said Super and Mike Tyson’s punch outs
If mister sand man was a fighter he would be the strongest fighter ever and he has the strength and more but the only thing he didn't have was an actual human player controlling his actions and if he did he would be unstoppable there for he would just maul everyone easily.
Really I'd love any Punch-Out fighter to be in Smash especially Mr. Sandman. Although I feel like King Hippo and Soda Poppinski have the potential to be unique.
@@veggie928 omg, i couldnt agree more. At least for soda pop, i visualized a move set in my head. King hippo is a k rool echo easily. Sadly if anyone from punchout were to be in smash it would make most sense for great tiger since he has clones to work with with elements
@@JollyRodger2667 Yeah, King Hippo is definitely an echo for K Rool. Soda could have a cool special where he becomes powered up by drinking his special soda as long as he has the time to do it.
@@veggie928 id say similar to terry getting the go meter. Maybe he has a counter but at over 100 percent if you counter, you take full damage but no knockback and he turns red with seeping rage
he goes from a fairly basic boxer, to a bald bull resprite, to being voiced by Mario, to being a final boss character. if that's not a glow up I don't know what is
The scariest things about NES Sandman is you nearly don't have a time to react to his rage uppercuts, the flash is literally 10 times faster than the time we spend blinking once.
Every Dreamland Attack 2:06 NES Mike Tyson Punch Out 3:58 Super Punch Out 5:34 (A Failed One) Wii Punch Out 6:47 (Another Failed One) Title Defense Wii Punch Out 7:10 (Another Failed One) Title Defense Wii Punch Out
There's something hilarious with mr sandman trying to intimidate the player and instantly getting clapped to the ground with a star punch, like he goes "BOO-" and next thing you see is him instantly falling fown
I'm starting to see why they call him Mr. Sandman. It's not because he puts you to sleep, *it's because he will bring down two-story buildings into sand with his FISTS* , now that's just terrifying.
6:09 Mr Sandman: What the?! (Look at Little Mac) You gotta be KIDDING me!! (Little Mac is waving) RRRRRRRRRRRRR... Doc Louis: You got it, kid! (Little Mac is prepared to fight) Mr Sandman: RRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!! RRRRRRRRRRRRR...
@@joeyk107 Its just a cool move, man. Mike Tyson never actually used said move in real life (to my knowledge, anyway), and the winking punches aren't trademarked.
1:00 - The NES conversion of Punch-Out!!! had Mr. Sandman at his most unpredictable behavior--I could never survive the first 50 seconds without blocking those rolling jabs. :(
The rolling jabs are actually fairly easy to dodge. He takes three steps before throwing the punch. Except for the 6th and 11th punches, which are always six steps instead of three. Dreamland Express is tough. He always does it at a minute thirty in the first round. When he puts his gloves together, that's your cue to dodge. In round 2, he'll always do Dreamland Express after being knocked down, and occasionally around a minute fifteen.
Little Mac being the underdog and such is basically made to win, but the real question is, how much of a fight the has-been Mac could put up? He is obviously no string chicken, both Little Mac and Mac have experience in taking down bigger opponents, but Little Mac's expertise is a bit multiplied by his stature. I just don't think Mac would be ready to face such a small man after having most of his expertise in taking down larger and less technical opponents, since Little Mac is the definition of technical.
@@iczev I think Mac would hurt much like Mr. Sandman and dodge a little like Little Mac, so he'd make to the end rounds, probably past Mr. Sandman, but the exhaustion from all the technical fighting will cause him to be an easy target for a finishing blow.
The best way to beat tittle defense sandman is to dodge all his uppercuts on the second down then when he’s tired punch him until you get 3 stars then use it
It looks like it's a long signal, but it really isn't. You have time to react and maybe dodge at best if you don't know when he does that move. Second, you don't have time to react with what eye he's blinking. So ya just guess for the first one. Third, the timing. Kinda precise, you have to punch him a little after he does his wink. A bit too late and you immediately have a fist in your face. Really, when you fight him for the first time, your best bet is to just punch randomly and hope he blocks it. That gives you enough time to comprehend what side he blinked on to dodge. Really, it seems to be longer than it is.
5:56-6:04 Headcanon; Mr. Sandman: You ruined my life for the last time,Little Mac! *(destroy building with fists)* Mr. Sandman: Mark my words,Little Mac; Win or lose,I'LL SEE YOU DESTROYED!!
![(TAS) Super Punch Out!! - 2 Player Mode [2P Wins All Fights] (0:55.64 In-Game Time)](/img/n.gif)
I like how Title Defense Sandman is like a new Mike Tyson. It's like he's the spiritual successor to his NES fight without the constant insta kills, but still with the crazy fast punches, and even the winking
He studied Tyson, that’s for sure.
Their haircuts are pretty similar too
fun fact, if you lose to mr. sandman in title defense the next time you fight him the intro animation returns to the original version minus the part where doc is scared of mr.sandman
no because mike tyson is a terrible abusive person
@@gamingwq8788 cap
I never noticed how well punch out wii was animated, it looks like a switch game
If only Nintendo actually ported the Wii version to the Switch
and if only I knew how long your username is LOL (im sorry)
@@aidanwicab1488 infinite
It is a really good quality game
Nintendo was at their prime when it wasn’t farting just Mario games all the time
Ironic how in the Arcade and Wii he's on his prime, but in Super Punch-Out he's literally a shame of himself.
Oh for real thats good to know i guess thx 🤣
If we talking weight wise, i think king hippo beats him still. But if yoyr talking about position then yeah, why the hell was he champ of major circuit
@@JollyRodger2667 probably because they wanted him to be a circuit champ and not 1 place behind super macho man
I can beat the snes mr sandman but not the 3rd person
@Noah Maldonado I mean, yeah, you can only have one champion at a time for a circuit, right?
4:22
Sandman: THAT’S for being higher ranked than me in every other game we’ve appeared in together!!
Sandman’s revenge
WHOA! that's a lot more likes than I expected to get. thanks guys.
@@noxidgaming1114 Likes are nothing punk
Bogus!
CRUNCH.. DUDE
Love that when he sees a three star punch coming he yells "NOOOO!"
Was Mr. Sandman a fan of Doc Louis back when he was the champ?
Maybe he recognizes the star punch.
Oh that’s a cool theory
@Chad Kroeger that would make sense. Like imagine if you were inspired to become a master boxer because of someone, you become the champion, and you realize someone else is their student which you probably would love to be the person's student.
@@jokerthekingly3708 "you probably would love the person's student " kid or not i would have not been so mad about losing to him im just saying
@@horrorzero6157 yeah it could be either way now that I think about it.
@@jokerthekingly3708 also i have a theory the boxers that we beat in punch out i think they are trying kill mac you can tell by sandman's intro he literly breaks bulidings with his fist just his man at mac that shows at least he wants to kill him
Mr Sandman: Afraid?
Gets knocked out
Z:uhh nah but (hugs him)were bffs now :3
mac:aw cmon give sandman a chance!
Are you? Because you have not land a hit yet...And you are down.
@@vincentfrick6880 ...?
@@ahard-daysnight6659 The context is that my comment is like Little Mac talking back in response to Sandman saying "Afaid?".
I showed this to a few friends and they all claimed he looked "easy" and "didn't deserve boss titles"
Those poor souls have never played a punch out game in their lives and have no clue what it's really like
When I first met him, always get rekt by his "Dreamland Express" 😂
Ah the magic of frame perfect counterpunching.
Probably because they don't realize that all the punches mac does are specifically timed and how much damage Mr. sandman can put out to a slightly off guard player.
Especially the older games
i can't even beat sandman in mike's punch out
“Hey sandman, what’s your favorite Kirby game?”
“6:47”
Dream land
@@thegold707 1 2 3?
Dreamland... before he jerks and comes up wit those uppercuts
A case of knocked down
*some say that the last thing the interviewer saw was sandman making a face and saying "boo" before getting killed by him throwing 9 uppercuts in a row.*
Imagine looking out your window and you see a man level a building with his fists
I would call the police.
@@SuperZak75. Local news report: All police officers died by one man.
Breaking News: Man brings fists to a gun fight and wins!
@@SuperZak75. call the police? That man has a hof menace to society badge
@@miggle2784 Breaking News: Man goes on punching rampage after a failed police assault. 200,000 dead and 150,000,000 injured
Even though I haven’t played Punch Out WII yet, I can’t comprehend how fast they beat contender Sandman.
well you cant play wii, its out
Wii is easily the hardest Pinchot to beat but there are metas to beating them that require skill
Con-chickie-tendies
Once you know what to do its not that hard. TD Soda Popinski and TD Bald Bull will always be hard no matter what though.
@@ricinmuffins7645 Agreed.
I love how in title defense mode (Wii) Mr. Sandman is unbelieved that he's mached up with Little Mac. He just feels anger twords him, and wants his title back.
9:13 Dude
It’s funny how mr sandman is some how always the champion of the world in every game apart from mike Tyson’s punch out as well as in super punch out meaning he must of won a rematch with the previous main characters
He was only champion of the world in 2 of the 5 punch out games. Arcade punch out and wii punch out. In the 3 others it was super macho man.
@@joeyk107 nick bruiser is champion in super punch out
@@beyondhaircraze4418 nick bruiser is champion of the special circuit. Super Macho Man is world champion.
@@joeyk107 in super punch out special circuit is actually after world circuit,
And you only beat the game if you finish special circuit
@@beyondhaircraze4418 I know but super macho man was still champion of the world circuit.
0:00 Arcade
0:59 NES
3:11 SNES
4:16 Wii, Contender
5:57 Wii, Title Defence
7:59 SSB4 Trophy
8:14 SSBU Spirit
Why he isn't a legendary Spirit in Ultimate?
Giga Mac is terrible to represent punch out.
his spirit should have been enhanceable to title defense
He should've been
and yet
Super Macho Man is a legendary spirit
Wat
@BroMomentoOficial you've got a ponit
It's so sad that his loss in Punch-Out Wii caused him to regress back into an ape.
Lmao
Reject humanity return to monke
He Turned Into Donkey Kong.
@@nitroplasma788 Ain't that the truth
@@ΟΑυγολεμονος thats the true
I never noticed that in punch out wii when sandman is knocked down, there's a lullaby type thing that playes
You don't really have the luxury of paying attention to that sort of thing when you're playing it lol
@@Commanderoko thing is I've never played punch out wii, I want to, but I havent
@@fyra_cat2119 get dolphin my bro
Yea that's a neat toucu, considering the meaning of the name "sandman"
@@illuminatidad do take in mind, some emulator controls dont work
5:33
Mr Sandman: Afraid?
Little Mac: *TKOs Mr Sandman*
Alternitive title:"The evolution of mr. Sandman thinking its his turn"
No.
Legend says that Mr Sandman is Matt’s brother
Son*
@@Ysumbruh0 I’m the Will version I think he’s easiet
Title Defense and Contender Dreamlands are easier to counter then said Super and Mike Tyson’s punch outs
If they announced a new Punch-Out game alongside a smash reveal for Mr. Sandman I would lose my shit
They did it with Isabelle so I'm hopeful
If mister sand man was a fighter he would be the strongest fighter ever and he has the strength and more but the only thing he didn't have was an actual human player controlling his actions and if he did he would be unstoppable there for he would just maul everyone easily.
Really I'd love any Punch-Out fighter to be in Smash especially Mr. Sandman. Although I feel like King Hippo and Soda Poppinski have the potential to be unique.
@@veggie928 omg, i couldnt agree more. At least for soda pop, i visualized a move set in my head. King hippo is a k rool echo easily. Sadly if anyone from punchout were to be in smash it would make most sense for great tiger since he has clones to work with with elements
@@JollyRodger2667 Yeah, King Hippo is definitely an echo for K Rool. Soda could have a cool special where he becomes powered up by drinking his special soda as long as he has the time to do it.
@@veggie928 id say similar to terry getting the go meter. Maybe he has a counter but at over 100 percent if you counter, you take full damage but no knockback and he turns red with seeping rage
He is not called mr. Sandman cause he makes people sleep, but because he makes literal buildings go be destroyed like a sand castle
I don't know if winning the matches perfectly really shows the evolution of these characters
Why not? Mr. Sandman is great.
Because if you play anything but perfectly, you just die instantly
I wonder how much money Mr. Sandman needs to pay for absolutely destroying a building.
A champion boxer probably gets payed a million just by existing.
@@leobardosantano8813 but he is not the champion, not anymore
Now whos going to bill him?
I like how big they made Mr. Sandman. Makes him the perfect final boss for Little Mac.
Dreamland Express is still my downfall in the NES version.
Nasty Uppercut combo.
He pauses and then he does it
there’s literally a 1/30th of a second time window to dodge it
I think there’s a way to get ready. If he stands still for a while and you jump up and punch him and he blocks it,get ready to dodge.
Two flashes and your down for the count in 10 seconds
It's funny how Mr. Sandman, in the Arcade, didn't have his Dreamland Express but at least learned how to cover himself when dizzied.
Imagine paying probably hundreds of dollars to see a boxing match between two world champions and they're done in literally less than a minute
Id be laughing my ass of if that happened in real life.
BOOM! Shortstuff absolutely murderizes the giant black guy!
Like most mike Tyson fights irl
i kinda feel bad for him in the wii version, he becomes champion only to get it taken away by a midget
Sure, but I feel bad for that building in his title defense intro
@@andrewconte2238 rip building
How can he beat mr beast
@@travisscottfan221 No.
@@scottchaison1001I don’t give a shit
Mr. Sandman: Afraid?
*Goes to Dreamland*
0:00 - Arcade
1:00 - NES
3:10 - SNES
4:15 - Wii(Contender)
5:55 - Wii (Title defense)
8:00 - Super smash bros for Wii U
8:15 - Super smash bros ultimate
The fact the guy can destroy building is terrifying
The absolute skill against Contender Sandman is simply incredible.
Why i am the only impressed that little Mac beat 5 times Mr sandman thats pretty good
Idk man, I feel I deserve more respect.
Adrian H.- damn cuh u don’t gotta be so toxic, english isn’t even his first language
@Adrian H. nah dont worry man
@Adrian H. beacuse...i am spaniiiiiish!!!!! XD
@@mepicaelhuevodelmedio5522 want me to give him a sandman punch for ya.
don't worry you both can have some ice cream afterwards
6:30 This fight always renember to David vs Goliath.
he goes from a fairly basic boxer, to a bald bull resprite, to being voiced by Mario, to being a final boss character. if that's not a glow up I don't know what is
He has always been a Platte swap of Bald bull
Anyone else like the sound Mr. Sandman makes when he gets knocked to the floor with a star punch in punchout wii?
Yes
He’s like, double the height of little mac in the NES games!
The scariest things about NES Sandman is you nearly don't have a time to react to his rage uppercuts, the flash is literally 10 times faster than the time we spend blinking once.
Every Dreamland Attack
2:06 NES Mike Tyson Punch Out
3:58 Super Punch Out
5:34 (A Failed One) Wii Punch Out
6:47 (Another Failed One) Title Defense Wii Punch Out
7:10 (Another Failed One) Title Defense Wii Punch Out
There's something hilarious with mr sandman trying to intimidate the player and instantly getting clapped to the ground with a star punch, like he goes "BOO-" and next thing you see is him instantly falling fown
1:02. The moment where everyone fighting Mr. Sandman for the first time collectively shit their pants.
For REAL, tho! He's easier that Popinski for me now. * smol flex *
Yeah I got to him once Dream land is my nightmare
6:00 "with his cool temper"
"Afraid?"
-Mr. Sandman, who was knocked tf out seconds after uttering that word.
Karma
I think a Mr. Sandman spirit fight would be more like
"Your jumping power is extremely decreased"
"The enemy's punch attacks do massive damage"
When I was a kid I never knew how Mr Sandman looked like he was ripped but also had a dad bod
I'm starting to see why they call him Mr. Sandman. It's not because he puts you to sleep, *it's because he will bring down two-story buildings into sand with his FISTS* , now that's just terrifying.
8:14 Ok it’s so funny that the character playing the spirit for the final fight in punch out is the final fight fight in punch out.
6:41 Morgana for P5 in a nutshell
*from
@@thomasingram1727 You can edit comments you know?
For some weird reason, I can't edit comments.
@@thomasingram1727 oh well i cant help with that
The thing that really makes this video funny is that the little Mac/Donkey Kong fight is canon
i like how mr sandman is like 3 times bigger than mac and still loses to him lol
EVOLUTION OF Bald Bull/ Mask X with Arm Wrestling Battles & Appeperances
I lobe how whenever Mr. Sandman would get knocked down it would play a lullaby
Just wished they added a newspaper segment saying: Mr sandman put to sleep
I love how unlike others characters hes a real boxer he doesn't cheat or anything he just hits like a truck and knows how to actually fight
Sandman deserved a spot in the Special Circuit of Super Punch Out and a higher difficulty.
Otros boxeadores: "La desproporción
es mi segundo nombre 👍"
Estaba teniendo un día de mierda, pero este comentario me hico alegrarme un poco
*Mr Sandbag quiere enviarte a Dreamland*
0:49 ignore this comment, it’s just for me
4:37 little Mac: pffff whatever let’s do thiiis!
Did anyone ever notice that mr sandman on the Wii is Simalar to mike Tyson. He lost and He went crazy as shown by the second cutscene
The victory noises in the arcade game make me so mad for some reason
OO OO OO OO
Monke?
Great fighting! You're an up-and-coming boxer!
He says to the World Champion.
Imagine this fight
title defence Sandman vs contender glass Joe
Sand man would breathe and knock Joe down
He would BLOW ON HIM AND HIS HEART WOULD RUPTURE LEVEL CARNAGE
Lol I've been able to beat every version of mr. sandman. Pretty hard when you first fight him though.
Evolution of Mister Sandman:
- Final opponent (world champion title)
- pre-pre-final opponent
- Major circle title
- World champion title
I like it how I’m Smash Ultimate they chose Donkey Kong to have Mr Sandman as his spirit
6:09 Mr Sandman: What the?! (Look at Little Mac) You gotta be KIDDING me!! (Little Mac is waving) RRRRRRRRRRRRR...
Doc Louis: You got it, kid! (Little Mac is prepared to fight)
Mr Sandman: RRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!! RRRRRRRRRRRRR...
They do Mr. Sandman dirty is some of these games, it’s sad
fun fact: the audiance in nearly every punch out game have refrences
I feel like Mr Sandman is the Freddy Kruger of all boxers
‘Mr. sandman bring me a dream’
They definitely use Mr Sandman just so they don’t have to get Mike Tyson’s likeness.
He was in the games before mike Tyson.
@@rob8594 plus they could beef Sandman up and change him up more than they can Tyson
Mr Dream is the Tyson replacement character.
@@ricinmuffins7645 he literally does the same winking move in his title defense form that Mike Tyson did in the nes game.
@@joeyk107 Its just a cool move, man. Mike Tyson never actually used said move in real life (to my knowledge, anyway), and the winking punches aren't trademarked.
I still think the arcade punch out games are hilarious because I swear Mac squeaks
1:00 - The NES conversion of Punch-Out!!! had Mr. Sandman at his most unpredictable behavior--I could never survive the first 50 seconds without blocking those rolling jabs. :(
The rolling jabs are actually fairly easy to dodge. He takes three steps before throwing the punch. Except for the 6th and 11th punches, which are always six steps instead of three. Dreamland Express is tough. He always does it at a minute thirty in the first round. When he puts his gloves together, that's your cue to dodge. In round 2, he'll always do Dreamland Express after being knocked down, and occasionally around a minute fifteen.
For me
THE BEST BOSS AND FINAL BOSS in every Punch-Out
05:12 you almost had me there.
In the NES Punch Out, there was a very big difficulty spike between Don Flaminco and Mr. Sandman.
the fact that in smash ultimate he is donkey kong is funny
The 2009 vers he is cheesed so easily, that shouldn't embarrass the champ this much
“Easily” as if those counterpunches are easy
@@danieldavid3766 if i fight him a ton they can be quite predictable
@@sergeanthuman if
Someone on twitter's gonna see that Donkey Kong represents Mr. Sandman and call it racist.
Mr Sandman: Afraid?
Little Mac: literally punches him unconscious
Night night will always stay in my heart.
literally watching the king hippo evolution, and this came up
Quite the wild boxer beast
5:33
"Afraid?"
*dies instantly*
Tko'd instantly
5:33 was unexpected.
Mr. Sandman: "Afraid?"
2-Star punch: "Nope!"
zallard did that in his recent new wr run
@@thechunky1ne lol
Anyone notice in the title defence sandman, you can see donkey Kong in the crowd to the right? The detail in this game is so underrated
What would happen if little Mac and Mac faced each other?
Little Mac being the underdog and such is basically made to win, but the real question is, how much of a fight the has-been Mac could put up? He is obviously no string chicken, both Little Mac and Mac have experience in taking down bigger opponents, but Little Mac's expertise is a bit multiplied by his stature. I just don't think Mac would be ready to face such a small man after having most of his expertise in taking down larger and less technical opponents, since Little Mac is the definition of technical.
@@aaron4921 Excellent point
@@iczev I think Mac would hurt much like Mr. Sandman and dodge a little like Little Mac, so he'd make to the end rounds, probably past Mr. Sandman, but the exhaustion from all the technical fighting will cause him to be an easy target for a finishing blow.
1:02 - 1:04 welcome to HELL
Designing for intimidation
@@Eclipsesensation yes
The best way to beat tittle defense sandman is to dodge all his uppercuts on the second down then when he’s tired punch him until you get 3 stars then use it
C Sandman: "afraid?"
*proceeds to get KOed by little Mac with a 2 star punch*
They neefed the heck out of sand in the SNES version lol . He was akways one of my favorites.
i was so confused why he had such a long signal thing to be the final fight of the game and then i saw his actual punch speed
It looks like it's a long signal, but it really isn't. You have time to react and maybe dodge at best if you don't know when he does that move. Second, you don't have time to react with what eye he's blinking. So ya just guess for the first one. Third, the timing. Kinda precise, you have to punch him a little after he does his wink. A bit too late and you immediately have a fist in your face. Really, when you fight him for the first time, your best bet is to just punch randomly and hope he blocks it. That gives you enough time to comprehend what side he blinked on to dodge. Really, it seems to be longer than it is.
8:24
They made his fight a donkey kong fight
...
Nintendo
Irony is that DK was in punch out xD
"Mr.SandMan"
"Bring Me A Dream."
doc was worried because sandman took his title
Mr sandman, bring me a dream
Imagine if that the song mr sandman started playing during his fights
¿?
5:56-6:04
Headcanon;
Mr. Sandman: You ruined my life for the last time,Little Mac!
*(destroy building with fists)*
Mr. Sandman: Mark my words,Little Mac; Win or lose,I'LL SEE YOU DESTROYED!!
Nick Bruiser i think out of all the opponents Mac faces could take Sandman hek i think Rick would give Sandman trouble.
Fun fact: in punch out nes the only way (I think) to avoid dreamland express is ducking 2 times and then dodging to the right.
Mr Sandman: Boo
Little Mac: no u