Me: "Do you have any fun stories from High School?" Surgeon: "High school was nothing compared to bring a brain surgeon. Oh, you had to study for a test? That's nothing compared to operating on a human brain." Me: "I'll take that as a no."
@@davecabansay8965 Goggins never got deployed. He talks about that too. In one of his speeches, he specifically said "I am not a hero, those people are heros" referring to those SEALs and other people who have went into battle,
I saw on reddit some guy legit lost the skin of his dick from sitting in the ocean there. And all the skin on his upper legs. How tf do we not get a BUDS story...
They had to talk up how great they are.... These guys are so egotistical... Doing bicep curls so girls will beleive them when tbey scream how theyre a seal
Because goggins whole purpose of being a SEAL was to be physically and mentally challenged. Goggins even says he didnt want to be a SEAL. Jocko wanted to go to war, he was physically and mentally prepared to be a SEAL.
Dan Bilzerian(who was never a SEAL but who was in the Navy for four years and went through BUDS...twice, I believe )also talks about BUDS the same way that Goggins does and in a very different way from Jocko. Bilzerian talks about BUDS exactly the way that Leif said that guys who never experienced combat tend to talk about BUDS. I guess Bilzerian is another guy that we aren`t likely to see on the Jocko podcast.
True. He wanted to test his mind and body in prep for life. Really was never about "war". That's why he went to ranger school after. Jocko and Goggins are probably far apart on this it seems.
Caleb Hollars Gogginns did want to be a SEAL, it was his dream. But once he became a SEAL he found his purpose wasn’t to just be a seal but to push his physical and mental limits as far as he can and then some. He tried to get into seal team 6 and delta force he became an army ranger he deployed and went to war. People act like all Goggins did was work out but if you read his book you would understand his life is not what you thought it was.
@@kevinjohnson6549 exactly. Goggins literally just goes beyond the higher standards. Not to say that jocko doesnt but this is what makes the seal teams special, every individual is specialized some way or the other and they all work together and make things happen. Goggins is the sort of guy who isnt afraid to run 135 miles in a single day nor is he afraid to bust down a door that has 5 bad guys with Aks all aiming at the door. He has proven himself to be a seal and no one can take that away from him. Especially fucking civilians who say"what a fucking idot "when a pro basket ball player misses a shot while they're at home, fat as shit and watching the game on tv, just being plain out pathetic and envious.
Goggins talks about BUDS to motivate others, there's nothing wrong with that. Going from someone who dropped out of pararescue training, to the 37th African American to graduate in the history of BUDS is beyond motivating. I read his book during my spinal cord injury recovery last year (fully paralyzed) and I'm not sure if I would of stretched my mind to run a marathon 11 months later if it wasn't for him. Him talking about missions, and the badassery of his war experience wouldn't have an impact on others. He's one of the realest guys out there, not just trying to make money, and become famous. Beyond respectable.
@@Bdubbin305 No it's not.. Clearly you haven't watched more than 5 minutes about Goggins :) He said going through BUDS was nothing compared to those hundred milers he went through, but he sure will mention BUDS training as is a part of his story.
I think they, Jocko & Goggins, are talking with different perspectives. Jocko measured the military achievement, the combat. Goggins is about the self transformation through military. Just like, going through BUDS. Or passing that ASVAB test, it could be a piece of cake for most people so it doesn't mean anything to them, but it means the world to Goggins.
Jocko doesn’t have 1/10th the childhood trauma goggins has. It’s that simple, jocko had a good upbringing that allowed for a solid foundation to jump off from. Goggins had to make his foundation from scratch.
Coke Dogg I find it funny that this man just downplayed his own abilities by saying he would ring the bell an hour in and then call respect for the Seals and you still come in here and attempt to one-up HIS OWN insult to HIMSELF. you sir are a jackass.
@@MatterinoHS Yeah... putting down the guy being genuinely humble haha. Be as nice as you want, someone will always find a way to shit on you on the Internet.
The difference between Goggins and Jocko is that Goggins was born to be a nobody and became a navy seal. Jocko was born to be a seal and became the best.
Have some respect. Goggins is an Iraq veteran that served in TACP, Seals, and Rangers. Do not let your respect for Jocko excuse your disrespect of a man like Goggins who successfully served his duty. Good night, sir.
These two gentlemen sum it up well nicely...I went thru Marine boot camp in '68 when it was pretty damn brutal and savage but at the end of the day you still got three meals a day and a rack to sleep in and nobody was trying to kill you. When I got to Vietnam (7/2 and then 3/1) and would be out patrolling for weeks on end watching Marines die every day, and would be thirsty and hungry and tired all the time I used to pray and wish to be back on Parris Island. Training is one thing and high intensity warfare is quite another.
I think what makes Jocko different from David Goggins is that Goggins gives mainly examples from his physical workouts. Really 90% of what he does is run, run, run and talk about how to cause yourself discomfort. Jocko talks about many areas that require discipline.
Nemo Vetinari I disagree, if you read his book and his interviews it much more than that, its about achieving mental toughness and calloussing your minds , physical exercise can be a way to do that
As a former Marine Grunt, combat vet, I totally get this. The training is a necessary stepping stone and a weeding out process. We train and excel for one reason...and that reason is to wage war and win with style. 👍✌️
I served 24 years in the Navy. Nothing but respect for the SEALs and those who served. Love hearing them talk about some of their experiences and perspectives. Spot on.
I asked my uncle what BUD/s was like. His response "go through it and you won't have to ask" I have to think his response is 100% true you can never understand unless you go through it
Fair point, but I think for someone who is genuinely curious about something difficult doesn’t want to alter their life with a 4-6 year contract just to go through something that someone could have talked about. Again, fair point but, just answer the question lol
@@yeshuaislord6880 doubt it. That’s like saying if you want to sign for boot camp, enlist for four years. I’m in the marine corps and I’d never tell anyone to sign up foe the military just to experience boot camp. That’s absolutely stupid unless you want to be in the military for four years.
its not that crazy, its just really hard training to find out who can turn their emotions off and keep pushing when your body goes to autopilot. Very few humans can do that
Things I like hearing about bud/s stories aren’t necessarily how tough the training is but the funny things that happen throughout it are the best to hear in my opinion
Imagine in what mood Jocko must have been like, when he was first putting down his boots on the streets of Ramadi, where the disgusting smoke of burning tires and the sound of gunfire was greeting him... Just imagine what he was like these days. Probably the worst enemy you can find on this planet or in this entire galaxy.
Enemies of who? Americans invaded in their country!!! What would you do, if someone invades your country and threatens your family and close people? Americans are not "LIBERATORS". They are oppressors!
Vladimir Erkekov I saw a video one time on the internet of a woman not wearing a hijab in public who got surrounded by a group of middle eastern men clearly from country and was shot in her head after refusing to put on her hijab. Who is that man to tell her what she can or can’t do or how she can or can’t dress? Or is he just playing god ? Do you think an American soldier would come up and tell someone how to dress in public and just gun them down if they don’t listen ? I can agree that not all men in that country are like that but if the Americans are hunting down and killing the ones who put bullshit beliefs on other ppl who don’t believe in that kind of shit than fuck your oppressor bullshit
It's about perspective. Like he said, combat is a lot different than a training environment which is relatively sterile and designed to avoid killing people. When you go into combat the stakes are significantly higher and things are infinitely less predictable than anything that happens in training. It's still possible to die in training but they make a hell of an effort to make it as unlikely as they can.
Fact! I say it every time I hear a Marine tell a Bootcamp story like as if it was actually hard. Usually the POG that’s telling that story because bootcamp for him or her was the hardest thing mentally & physically they ever did in the Marine Corps.
DLOS reservist too, I have a couple of friends I went in with who went reservist or became pogs. They all talk about bootcamp or the one time they rode in a bird.
Basic was fun. Like PE class but we got to shoot guns and shit. Loved it. Same for SERE. Some dudes came out traumatized. I loved it. Got to snoop and poop. Get waterboarded and shit. Great training
Just read Goggin's book. BUDs is definitely not the highlight of his trials, there was a part where he talked about how an ultra marathon was harder than BUDs. I feel like his agent makes him talk about BUDs a lot because it sells.
I remember coming into listening to Extreme Ownership audiobook for the first time thinking "Well there's no way the other dude is going to have a manlier voice thank Jocko"....
Sometimes, I find myself stressing out heavily regarding work. I'm in the tax business and it can be difficult. However, through listening to Jocko, I've gained a comparison that makes my challenges seem like child's play. Combat? I can imagine but I can't relate. Stress? I can't even imagine that kind of stress let alone relate. Thank you for producing this podcast. It gives me a proper perspective. You guys are badasses.
I am humbled each and every time I listen to your stories of the realities of warfare. I'm an LEO of 16 years and when I think of difficulties I've faced, your stories just leave me absolutely speechless. Thanks so very much for your selfless dedication and service for all of us stateside!
But cops are nasty pieces of trash pushing the elite agenda to the detriment of working folks. Cops think they're above the law and act accordingly all the time. Its why no one respects cops. Too much corruption, too many nasty ones to count. Y'all fucked yalls selves by falling short. Now its too late to come back from your dishonor so y'all try and own it like 'what arr you gonna do about it?' Y'all aint shit. If I had a dollar for everytime I couldve snapped some cops neck and threw his ass in a ditch id have 20 bucks
They’re obviously selling it short, but I’d imagine it’s 100% true that training in general has nothing on legitimate kill or be killed situations. Duh
I believe what Goggins went through in his childhood is far worse than war. At age 7 you are not mentally and physically capable of defending yourself from the beatings he encountered.
@@derrickbaker2102 , You are absolutely correct. Many people would probably have committed suicide if they went through what Goggins did. Jocko and the people on this podcast seem very empathetic. They likely even believe that having empathy is a weakness.
Entertainment Tonight yea, I’m pretty feminist, but I’d have to agree that it doesn’t make sense to integrate infantry before the NFL. We have hours of NFL footage to design a training program around. If women *can’t* be trained to handle being a linebacker and win, then that would surprise me and has pretty important implications. We train infantry not just to be able to fight ill-led muj in Ramadi, but to be able to credibly threaten well-led Russian troops trying to roll towards Gdanzk. If the People’s Liberation Army lands on Taiwan and takes 15% of the Island, who’s going to get sent in to accomplish goals while enduring trauma? The infantry.
I still don't see the issue. I think most people have some stereotypical idea of what constitutes a "woman" when they make these claims. There are women out there who are complete genetic freaks (like Jocko is, lets be honest here) who could totally be NFL linebackers. A fraction of a fraction of a percent of men qualify to be SEALS. We know that obviously doesn't mean that men can't be SEALS. A fraction of a fraction of a fraction of women probably qualify to be SEALS, too. I say let them. The cream rises to the top in these scenarios, so long as we don't compromise our standards.
What he said at the 7:01 mark was the exact thought pattern and philosophy I had all throughout my academic life and that thought pattern was the biggest reason why I was quitting and giving up on school because in the end I didn't love the process of studying enough to stick it out when it got hard. So now I am really appreciating this video even more because I'm learning a lot more about myself and what my motivations are and my nature and that is what's guiding me to make better life decisions so I really do appreciate this video guys.
What I take from this can be applied to any career-path. Training -vs- real world work force and experience. The former is ALWAYS easier than the latter, because it’s training, no matter how difficult or not that training is; the job will always be more difficult.
this is my first time seeing or hearing Leif, but if I were only wearing headphones and listening to this, him and Jocko would've been the same to me. Haha
I would love see Jocko Willink and David Goggins appear on a podcast together. I have seen the same suggestion made countless times on other UA-cam videos and generally it is motivated by people wanting to see two ‘badasses’ join forces and create epic content. I for one would like to see the two men amicably communicate their differences in objectives, perspectives and experiences. Seeing such opposing members of the SEAL fraternity engaged in such a dialogue would be incredibly insightful and provide many lessons for all interested. I have followed both individuals closely and it is clear that similarity is not what will bring them together, but, after a few years of listening to them engaged in comfortable conversation with individuals who are already inclined to agree with them (whether it be because they are in awe of their very presence and accomplishments or because they are old friends or members of the same circles and/or schools of thought) I feel it would refreshing to see them hold their own against another military man whom they do not see eye to eye with on things. The snippet of Jocko and Leif describing BUDs made it very apparent how far apart one side is from the other. Whilst I do not see it as thinly veiled shot at Goggins as some have interpreted it to be, it is still a telling example of the chasm in attitudes between the two parties. It would be interesting for them to hear them explain and compare their attitudes towards Hell Week, the SEAL teams, combat, leadership and life itself.
I agree and Marcus Luttrells take on BUD/s is that he’s THANKFUL for its crucible training bc it was the reason he endured the darkest moments of combat.
It’s always about the men and women you serve with, that’s what makes the American military so great! The bond that brings us together as brothers and sisters in combat.
When Rob O Neill was up in the mountains with a bunch of his team guys, looking for Luttrell, he said himself "this is why we went through hell week." Every quarter mile going uphill in that environment is punishing. It's not just about weeding out the weak. It's removing the mind/body connection of the human body's pain threshold.
I know who they are bud. Jocko commanded the force that helped retake Ramadi. I'm familiar with these men and their backgrounds. Keep your keyboard tough guy shit at home chief. Nobody's impressed. All I was saying is that the same guy that was on Team 6 and capped Bin Laden, was on foot for days with little to no provisions, hiking all over the mountains looking for Luttrell. And he had said on Rut's podcast that if it weren't for hell week, he might not have made it through that evolution. You learn early on to push the pain away, and focus on your task, and it's amazing what the human body can endure when the mind takes over. Something i'm all to familiar with as a Katrina survivor.
Never considered that, bro - that "integrate the NFL" vs. justifying the almost entirely politically motivated decision to have woman 11Bs analogy was spot on. Training only proves 1) you are able to be trained. 2) you can function at an incredibly fundamental level. It's an altogether different universe when you're thrown into a situation that is dynamic violence with infinite and unexpected variables, the intensity of which cannot be simulated.
I love my gals, we all do. Fact is we're built for high intensity battle over prolonged periods, and they are not. God bless em tho. Id love to see a woman achieve that. Combat requires a brutality men can summon more easily then women. The ugliest kind. The kjnd that says, 'im not gonna die here thousands of miles away from home today.' Then you just bang and its all a blur.
These guys are hitting the nail on the head. Not surprising because they have experience and are intelligent. Point to any conflict, and you'll of the many factors that influence the outcome, the resolve of the soldier to fight is highly influential on the outcome.
Jocko Willink and Leif Babin are telling the truth. They are saying that in combat if a guy wants to kill you he will try to intentionally harm you just to satisfy his own selfish, egotistical desires to get you to doubt yourself. In order to negatively influence you to do things and behave wrongly. In order to cause you to become undisiplined. I made sure to do 20 slow rep pushups tonight. Do calasthenics, jumping jacks. Burpees and go at my own pace and do the Spetsnaz Cooper Test. I am a beginner.
@@user-qe7bt9dz1l Yeah...but you're also an extremist who is successful at intentionally antagonizing others to provoke them to physically fight/attack then kill you. Congratulations, man! You won again!
Most everyone has a fleeting moment, predicament, or circumstance in their lives...A few seconds, maybe a few minutes even...where they give up fear, ignore pain, and push themselves...farther than ever before. That kind of will and determination is not a fleeting moment for these guys. It's a lifestyle.
Does anyone remember Jocko saying something along the lines of '''when you're 25 you look back at who you were at 20 and laugh at how dumb you were. Same thing at 30, you look back at 25 and so on and so on''? For some reason that truth has stuck with me and I'd really like to find out where exactly I got it from and I am pretty sure it was from one of these episodes.
I really enjoyed this pod cast because they focused on combat. I served as a 12Bravo doing route clearance with a total of 27 months between Iraq and Afghanistan, I have seen guys talking tough until it got real. Talk about a pucker factor seriously.
7:13 is true as hell too and again I gotta say these Jocko podcast interview videos are very informative, authentic, and entertaining. And this is coming from a guy that used to not do a whole lot of internet surfing outside of cartoons, anime, music, facebook, and porn lol.
The relaxing of standards in the name of retention is the biggest challenge facing the military today. Next would be the lack of leadership in the lower ranks.
@@carpenter315 I've talked to a lot of lower ranking Army/Airmen about problems they're having that should be getting passed up the chain to a competent NCO who can find a solution. If they're not seeing it, how can they emulate it?
The greatest contribution to the current military leadership platform is that we have new up-and-coming amazing guys coming in all the time. There is a spectrum of all types, personalities, etc coming in. That in and of itself is great, but that is not the whole ball game. What I saw happen are these great and amazing guys who leave as 4 year PFCs and 8 year LCpls who were stacked with more chest-piece eyecandy than our SSgts. I saw these amazing Marines who knew what war was. I had the honor of being mentored by these outstanding guys who could really break down the motions and training environments/scenarios to an understandable degree; guys who excelled in what they did. They all left because they saw they had more to offer than what the Corps would allow them to give. They were capable of performing and doing better, but were held back by the Corps. So what ends up happening is all these phenomenal guys leave, because they are so sick of the BS, then guess what you're stuck with. All you have left are the sandbaggers and guys who have sub-par reasons for sticking around, either from institutionalization, or ignorance about the world, or some other negatively contributing aspect that has them making the decision to stick around. They end up staying until they either A) get kicked out or B) the Corps just throws rank at them. Now, there are crappy "leaders" in positions they never should be in simply because they were "the best" option available from the pool of people who brown nose or are yes men. - And then we all sit back and wonder why the military is inefficient in the details of its planning, implementation processes. We wonder why we are standing in formation from 0400 to 1300 at parade rest just waiting for the Battalion Commander to release us for liberty. There is an infinite number of better and more productive ways in how to use time, train, and spend money. However, it's not always bad. There are the occasional good guys who actually make it to a position they deserve and just as the shit rolls down the hill, so does the positive influence of these good leaders who are few and far between. - If the military focused on cleaning out their shitbag leaders, this would leave the opportunity for the real heros of war to step up and be recognized to do what they can to further propel the military in the forward moving progressive place it should have been all along.
@@jonathanbulkheed338 In the 80s under Reagan the same thing was happening so he instituted programs in every service to get the dead wood out and instill pride and leadership. It worked fantastically and that's why we had the trained and dedicated force that went into Iraq the first time.
@@jonathanbulkheed338 Shit! That's a critical observation but probably accurate. I entered Navy basic with an EOD contract. Halfway through basic I came to believe that I would probably just be wasting my time; I was 28 at the time. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, and no born leader. I definitely did not fit in with the majority of them being teens and probably would have just been a liability. I got myself kicked out. It is a minor regret but I didn't have the character or integrity required for the job. Yet it's character and integrity the absolutely only thing I care about right now.
@@aegonbreakspear9102I could take you and your weak father. I bet he dosen't own stock in apple like my fatHer does. HA! These people don't have a mind like I because I am richer then they are HA! NO ONE CAN TAKE ME
The main reasons buds is different are two fold; how you respond to external influences is entirely up to you since it’s a controlled environment, and you’re not in immediate danger. A battlefield is changes both of those REAL quick.
Here's one BUDS story from a friend of mine who went through it: The instructors fuck with you by making you an intermediary to fuck with other instructors. My friend told me how they can basically order a candidate to do this: "Johnson!" "Instructor Simmons, sir!" "Go to Instructor Matthews and tell him if he weren't so white, he'd look pretty damn sweet!" "Sir, yes sir!" The guy goes to Instructor Matthews and says what Instructor Simmons told him to say BUT forgot to preface it with "Instructor Matthews, Instructor Simmons told me to say to you..." Needless to say, Johnson got PT'd into oblivion. lol
I'm not sure if they really take shots at David Goggins because this was 2 years before Goggins book was published. Besides if I remember correctly Goggins mentioned that his deployments were relatively unspectacular, so buds was logically one of the hardest thing he went through as a Seal. Not sure why people in this comment section call David Goggins fake or other insults. Just because Jocko calls Buds not a big deal doesn't mean that it's easy. Goggins had to do it with broken bones and one man drowned during it. I would have quit after 10 minutes and I bet that this applies to 99% of this comment section. A podcast with David and Jocko would be awesome! :)
Buds is very difficult yes. But what they’re saying is BUDS should not be the highlight of your career. And if it is, then you didn’t deploy. Goggins actually refused to deploy. And Dan balzierian is just a fake baby that inherited his money and wants to look cool. At the end of the day, it’s hard, but nothing compared to combat
"The nature of war does not change" I will fucking remember that because its true as hell. And that statement wouldn't have hit me so hard if I had not have gone through all the trials and tribulations that I had.
I think alot of times when people ask for stories its kinda like looking for a spark of nitivation or just soothing curiosity even but for me ive always enjoyed hearing seals talk because its incredibly motivating and you can use alot of these principles in every day life, no ill never be a seal but i can be a better me if i live by certain principles idk for sure but thats my guess
I see some people talking about Goggins, and I think the reason he talks about it much more is bc of where he came from. He came from a bad home and when he decided he wanted to become a seal he was unmotivated and extremely out of shape. To be fit enough and pass through training as hard as buds was a huge milestone for him. For someone like jocko who i think was pretty fit leading into training, it’s probably not that big a deal.
Jocko basically says it just a training to do "the job". Goggins act like it all about himself not the team, like it's a gym or rehab military is a job and it's bigger than individual no wonder goggin has terrible reputation within the teams
fuck this puts everything in perspective instantly. Had to edit, can’t even imagine a single thing in this and really makes me think ab anyone who comes back from combat
Jocko should just say “Asking a retired SEAL about BUDS, is like asking a brain surgeon about graduating high school.
Me: "Do you have any fun stories from High School?"
Surgeon: "High school was nothing compared to bring a brain surgeon. Oh, you had to study for a test? That's nothing compared to operating on a human brain."
Me: "I'll take that as a no."
David Goggins really like talking about it though lol
Dave Cabansay because he went through it multiple times, while before he was fat as fuck
more like grad school
@@davecabansay8965 Goggins never got deployed. He talks about that too. In one of his speeches, he specifically said "I am not a hero, those people are heros" referring to those SEALs and other people who have went into battle,
"Means you didn't quit being cold. Good job"
I died.
Even tho buds is hard asf
this guy is gold
Jocko Willink is the kind of guy who wakes his alarm up
How many times am I going to see this comment on this guy's videos. Why don't YOU be the kind of guy that wakes up YOUR alarm clock
Testosterone once tested positive for Jocko Willink.
Jocko: Beat you again fucker!
Alarm: beeps and snoozes itself
Jocko IS my alarm.... #psychologicalwarfare
He actually told Jor Rogan he sets 3 alarm clocks of different types in case one fails.
People: "Tell us a BUD/S story!"
Jocko: "No, no I don't think I will."
Jimmy Kimmel FAKE
@@alligatorsnappingturle2229 thanks for telling us that fool
Leon I’m triggered
BUD/S instructor: Hey you have to get in cold ocean water and get sandy.
Jocko: (sarcastically) Oh no.
xD never seen anything more baddass than this video
Dalton Gates that was no lie my favorite part lol
I saw on reddit some guy legit lost the skin of his dick from sitting in the ocean there. And all the skin on his upper legs. How tf do we not get a BUDS story...
anakin Skywalker would fail he hates sand.
SuperStruct but did he quit though? If a man loses his dick skin and doesn’t quit he’s a fucking trooper
I just wanted to hear a BUDS story.
lol
They had to talk up how great they are.... These guys are so egotistical... Doing bicep curls so girls will beleive them when tbey scream how theyre a seal
@@JohnStockton7459 Thats exactly the opposite of what they did but okay buddy lol
@@JohnStockton7459 coming from the guy who named himself the goat...
@@JohnStockton7459 yeah the ego is off the charts...no wonder they never have any other seals on the podcast
When Alexander graham bell invented the telephone he had 2 missed calls from jocko
This is underrated
Dude I haven’t heard this one before I cracked up 😂😂
Jocko doesnt tell stories about BUDS, BUDS tells stories about Jocko
That's the Luttrell twins.
Joshua Waggoner very true
It’s probably pretty realistic
Jocko is the new chuck norris
Jocko's take on BUDS is waaaayyyyyy different than Goggins'. Kinda puts why we haven't seen them link up in perspective.
Because goggins whole purpose of being a SEAL was to be physically and mentally challenged. Goggins even says he didnt want to be a SEAL.
Jocko wanted to go to war, he was physically and mentally prepared to be a SEAL.
Dan Bilzerian(who was never a SEAL but who was in the Navy for four years and went through BUDS...twice, I believe )also talks about BUDS the same way that Goggins does and in a very different way from Jocko. Bilzerian talks about BUDS exactly the way that Leif said that guys who never experienced combat tend to talk about BUDS. I guess Bilzerian is another guy that we aren`t likely to see on the Jocko podcast.
True. He wanted to test his mind and body in prep for life. Really was never about "war". That's why he went to ranger school after.
Jocko and Goggins are probably far apart on this it seems.
Caleb Hollars Gogginns did want to be a SEAL, it was his dream. But once he became a SEAL he found his purpose wasn’t to just be a seal but to push his physical and mental limits as far as he can and then some. He tried to get into seal team 6 and delta force he became an army ranger he deployed and went to war. People act like all Goggins did was work out but if you read his book you would understand his life is not what you thought it was.
@@kevinjohnson6549 exactly. Goggins literally just goes beyond the higher standards. Not to say that jocko doesnt but this is what makes the seal teams special, every individual is specialized some way or the other and they all work together and make things happen. Goggins is the sort of guy who isnt afraid to run 135 miles in a single day nor is he afraid to bust down a door that has 5 bad guys with Aks all aiming at the door. He has proven himself to be a seal and no one can take that away from him. Especially fucking civilians who say"what a fucking idot "when a pro basket ball player misses a shot while they're at home, fat as shit and watching the game on tv, just being plain out pathetic and envious.
Goggins talks about BUDS to motivate others, there's nothing wrong with that. Going from someone who dropped out of pararescue training, to the 37th African American to graduate in the history of BUDS is beyond motivating. I read his book during my spinal cord injury recovery last year (fully paralyzed) and I'm not sure if I would of stretched my mind to run a marathon 11 months later if it wasn't for him. Him talking about missions, and the badassery of his war experience wouldn't have an impact on others. He's one of the realest guys out there, not just trying to make money, and become famous. Beyond respectable.
Good on you mate. Good effort
37?
@@reallyhappenings5597 Could've swore Goggins was the 36th
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Bloody hell hats off to you brother! Has that injury had any long term effects on you?
When jocko was at buds half of the instructors rang the bell
The man test is raising and loving your family and being a genuine person no matter if your a seal or a damn burger flipper
So true
@Thom Stoops don’t forget to pay your child support bub.
Amen, combat or not.
Yep, being a good and honest person is the most important lesson that we are all taught
Ok.......now what happens if a man decides that life isn't for him?
Dudes, this video is from 3 years ago. It's not like Jocko and Leif gathered up yesterday after reading Goggins' book to make a diss track.
Davi Mourão “make a diss track” lmfaoooo
This video is a respectfully discreet call-out.
Seals get deployed to areas for different reasons and never talk about it tho
to who?
If I had to guess, that was a shot at David Goggins, all you ever hear are his stories about overcoming challenges in BUDS and thats it.
Goggins!
@@Bdubbin305 No it's not.. Clearly you haven't watched more than 5 minutes about Goggins :) He said going through BUDS was nothing compared to those hundred milers he went through, but he sure will mention BUDS training as is a part of his story.
I think they, Jocko & Goggins, are talking with different perspectives. Jocko measured the military achievement, the combat.
Goggins is about the self transformation through military. Just like, going through BUDS. Or passing that ASVAB test, it could be a piece of cake for most people so it doesn't mean anything to them, but it means the world to Goggins.
Goggins is more about self improvement for civilians whereas Jocko is more about the details. The practical aspects and the things that really matter
Jocko doesn’t have 1/10th the childhood trauma goggins has. It’s that simple, jocko had a good upbringing that allowed for a solid foundation to jump off from. Goggins had to make his foundation from scratch.
I'd be ringing that bell an hour in. These blokes are different humans..much respect men.
@Coke Dogg still outlast you pussy boy
Coke Dogg I find it funny that this man just downplayed his own abilities by saying he would ring the bell an hour in and then call respect for the Seals and you still come in here and attempt to one-up HIS OWN insult to HIMSELF. you sir are a jackass.
@@MatterinoHS Most coke addicts are assholes by nature.
@@MatterinoHS Yeah... putting down the guy being genuinely humble haha. Be as nice as you want, someone will always find a way to shit on you on the Internet.
Coke Dogg You’re a little bitch 😂😂
"tell us about BUDS"
Jocko: 00:05-00:06
Next topic....
Jocko on BUDS: “its not that big of a deal” lol
The difference between Goggins and Jocko is that Goggins was born to be a nobody and became a navy seal. Jocko was born to be a seal and became the best.
Brilliantly stated.
For goggins war was easier than training
Well said sir
Have some respect. Goggins is an Iraq veteran that served in TACP, Seals, and Rangers. Do not let your respect for Jocko excuse your disrespect of a man like Goggins who successfully served his duty. Good night, sir.
Wow that’s a stupid fucking statement. The amount of presumption in saying who’s born to be what is astounding. Who TF are you exactly?
Jocko & Leif explaining why BUDS is minuscule to them and to talk about
Host: "anyways back to BUDS..How long does BUDS last"
These two gentlemen sum it up well nicely...I went thru Marine boot camp in '68 when it was pretty damn brutal and savage but at the end of the day you still got three meals a day and a rack to sleep in and nobody was trying to kill you. When I got to Vietnam (7/2 and then 3/1) and would be out patrolling for weeks on end watching Marines die every day, and would be thirsty and hungry and tired all the time I used to pray and wish to be back on Parris Island. Training is one thing and high intensity warfare is quite another.
I think what makes Jocko different from David Goggins is that Goggins gives mainly examples from his physical workouts. Really 90% of what he does is run, run, run and talk about how to cause yourself discomfort. Jocko talks about many areas that require discipline.
Nemo Vetinari I disagree, if you read his book and his interviews it much more than that, its about achieving mental toughness and calloussing your minds , physical exercise can be a way to do that
Not all of us want to fight rich men's wars like idiots..i'd rather learn discipline through other means
"BUDS eh. Now let's talk about combat"
As a former Marine Grunt, combat vet, I totally get this. The training is a necessary stepping stone and a weeding out process. We train and excel for one reason...and that reason is to wage war and win with style. 👍✌️
I served 24 years in the Navy. Nothing but respect for the SEALs and those who served. Love hearing them talk about some of their experiences and perspectives. Spot on.
Thank You for your service. When I say "God bless America" I think of people like you.
“Tell us a BUDS story.”
Jocko: No.
I asked my uncle what BUD/s was like. His response "go through it and you won't have to ask"
I have to think his response is 100% true you can never understand unless you go through it
Fair point, but I think for someone who is genuinely curious about something difficult doesn’t want to alter their life with a 4-6 year contract just to go through something that someone could have talked about. Again, fair point but, just answer the question lol
@@tyc4587 Well then you weren't made for it is what I think his uncle meant
@@yeshuaislord6880 doubt it. That’s like saying if you want to sign for boot camp, enlist for four years. I’m in the marine corps and I’d never tell anyone to sign up foe the military just to experience boot camp. That’s absolutely stupid unless you want to be in the military for four years.
@@tyc4587 Training to be a SEAL is quite different from being a regular marine
its not that crazy, its just really hard training to find out who can turn their emotions off and keep pushing when your body goes to autopilot. Very few humans can do that
The most polite "no." I've ever heard.
Made me chuckle.
You could tell Echo really wanted to hear a BUDs story 😂🤣
Things I like hearing about bud/s stories aren’t necessarily how tough the training is but the funny things that happen throughout it are the best to hear in my opinion
Imagine in what mood Jocko must have been like, when he was first putting down his boots on the streets of Ramadi, where the disgusting smoke of burning tires and the sound of gunfire was greeting him... Just imagine what he was like these days. Probably the worst enemy you can find on this planet or in this entire galaxy.
Enemies of who? Americans invaded in their country!!! What would you do, if someone invades your country and threatens your family and close people? Americans are not "LIBERATORS". They are oppressors!
Vladimir Erkekov I saw a video one time on the internet of a woman not wearing a hijab in public who got surrounded by a group of middle eastern men clearly from country and was shot in her head after refusing to put on her hijab. Who is that man to tell her what she can or can’t do or how she can or can’t dress? Or is he just playing god ? Do you think an American soldier would come up and tell someone how to dress in public and just gun them down if they don’t listen ? I can agree that not all men in that country are like that but if the Americans are hunting down and killing the ones who put bullshit beliefs on other ppl who don’t believe in that kind of shit than fuck your oppressor bullshit
Vladimir Erkekov also god knows how much other bullshit those kind of people have down to innocent people in the past on or off camera
@@vladimirerkekov3472 🖕
@@kikirose9099 he’s Russian he doesn’t know any better
Jocko: "Next!"
Echo: "Next... back to BUDs real quick..."
Jocko is just so much of a legendary titan that BUDS didn't even prove to be a challenge for him
Legend has it that when Jocko showed up at Coronado for training, BUDS rang out.
It's about perspective. Like he said, combat is a lot different than a training environment which is relatively sterile and designed to avoid killing people. When you go into combat the stakes are significantly higher and things are infinitely less predictable than anything that happens in training. It's still possible to die in training but they make a hell of an effort to make it as unlikely as they can.
Fact! I say it every time I hear a Marine tell a Bootcamp story like as if it was actually hard. Usually the POG that’s telling that story because bootcamp for him or her was the hardest thing mentally & physically they ever did in the Marine Corps.
DLOS reservist too, I have a couple of friends I went in with who went reservist or became pogs. They all talk about bootcamp or the one time they rode in a bird.
given Marcus luttrell seems happy telling training and buds stories don't see the problem pretty sure he did more than just training
Basic was fun. Like PE class but we got to shoot guns and shit. Loved it. Same for SERE. Some dudes came out traumatized. I loved it. Got to snoop and poop. Get waterboarded and shit. Great training
Boot camp stories are the best! It’s was a 3 month comedy skit. It’s sucks that you’re so hardcore that you can’t take it for what it was.
the BRC was hard
Thanks for posting this. Really cool to hear from these guys. Cannot imagine what these guys go through. Amazing.
Just read Goggin's book. BUDs is definitely not the highlight of his trials, there was a part where he talked about how an ultra marathon was harder than BUDs. I feel like his agent makes him talk about BUDs a lot because it sells.
I remember coming into listening to Extreme Ownership audiobook for the first time thinking "Well there's no way the other dude is going to have a manlier voice thank Jocko"....
Bro same, baben got a scary ass voice
I think of our good fortune, through the miracle of technology, to hear these men speak the truth and to learn directly from them. Amazing. Truly.
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You gonna love Akira the Don / Meaningwave!!
“They drown you… and then they bring you back to life!” Epic lol
Sometimes, I find myself stressing out heavily regarding work. I'm in the tax business and it can be difficult. However, through listening to Jocko, I've gained a comparison that makes my challenges seem like child's play. Combat? I can imagine but I can't relate. Stress? I can't even imagine that kind of stress let alone relate. Thank you for producing this podcast. It gives me a proper perspective. You guys are badasses.
I've been listening to Extreme Ownership for a month and I didn't imagine Lief looking so young.
I am humbled each and every time I listen to your stories of the realities of warfare. I'm an LEO of 16 years and when I think of difficulties I've faced, your stories just leave me absolutely speechless. Thanks so very much for your selfless dedication and service for all of us stateside!
But cops are nasty pieces of trash pushing the elite agenda to the detriment of working folks. Cops think they're above the law and act accordingly all the time. Its why no one respects cops. Too much corruption, too many nasty ones to count. Y'all fucked yalls selves by falling short. Now its too late to come back from your dishonor so y'all try and own it like 'what arr you gonna do about it?' Y'all aint shit. If I had a dollar for everytime I couldve snapped some cops neck and threw his ass in a ditch id have 20 bucks
This man is a BAD ASS. Thank you for your service!
They’re obviously selling it short, but I’d imagine it’s 100% true that training in general has nothing on legitimate kill or be killed situations. Duh
Stroppy Exactly, like yeah I believe combat is 50x worse but I was interested in the training too.
Stroppy Exactly, like yeah I believe combat is 50x worse but I was interested in the training too.
Stephen Sunday
Ikr, it’s just a question
I believe what Goggins went through in his childhood is far worse than war. At age 7 you are not mentally and physically capable of defending yourself from the beatings he encountered.
@@derrickbaker2102 , You are absolutely correct. Many people would probably have committed suicide if they went through what Goggins did. Jocko and the people on this podcast seem very empathetic. They likely even believe that having empathy is a weakness.
The comparison of integrating the NFL was a surprising and eye-opening one
100%
What he referring to when he says integrating the NFL?
@@JadenZeCreator integrating women into infantry or SOF units? It's all physical.
Entertainment Tonight yea, I’m pretty feminist, but I’d have to agree that it doesn’t make sense to integrate infantry before the NFL.
We have hours of NFL footage to design a training program around. If women *can’t* be trained to handle being a linebacker and win, then that would surprise me and has pretty important implications.
We train infantry not just to be able to fight ill-led muj in Ramadi, but to be able to credibly threaten well-led Russian troops trying to roll towards Gdanzk. If the People’s Liberation Army lands on Taiwan and takes 15% of the Island, who’s going to get sent in to accomplish goals while enduring trauma? The infantry.
I still don't see the issue. I think most people have some stereotypical idea of what constitutes a "woman" when they make these claims. There are women out there who are complete genetic freaks (like Jocko is, lets be honest here) who could totally be NFL linebackers. A fraction of a fraction of a percent of men qualify to be SEALS. We know that obviously doesn't mean that men can't be SEALS. A fraction of a fraction of a fraction of women probably qualify to be SEALS, too. I say let them. The cream rises to the top in these scenarios, so long as we don't compromise our standards.
I would like to see a documentary on Jockos life. I thin it would be a real eye opener for a lot of people.
What he said at the 7:01 mark was the exact thought pattern and philosophy I had all throughout my academic life and that thought pattern was the biggest reason why I was quitting and giving up on school because in the end I didn't love the process of studying enough to stick it out when it got hard.
So now I am really appreciating this video even more because I'm learning a lot more about myself and what my motivations are and my nature and that is what's guiding me to make better life decisions so I really do appreciate this video guys.
What I take from this can be applied to any career-path. Training -vs- real world work force and experience. The former is ALWAYS easier than the latter, because it’s training, no matter how difficult or not that training is; the job will always be more difficult.
Jocko keeping it real...awesome !!
Love it! “Carry some logs don’t quit!”
I loved every moment of it..
this is my first time seeing or hearing Leif, but if I were only wearing headphones and listening to this, him and Jocko would've been the same to me. Haha
I would love see Jocko Willink and David Goggins appear on a podcast together. I have seen the same suggestion made countless times on other UA-cam videos and generally it is motivated by people wanting to see two ‘badasses’ join forces and create epic content. I for one would like to see the two men amicably communicate their differences in objectives, perspectives and experiences. Seeing such opposing members of the SEAL fraternity engaged in such a dialogue would be incredibly insightful and provide many lessons for all interested. I have followed both individuals closely and it is clear that similarity is not what will bring them together, but, after a few years of listening to them engaged in comfortable conversation with individuals who are already inclined to agree with them (whether it be because they are in awe of their very presence and accomplishments or because they are old friends or members of the same circles and/or schools of thought) I feel it would refreshing to see them hold their own against another military man whom they do not see eye to eye with on things.
The snippet of Jocko and Leif describing BUDs made it very apparent how far apart one side is from the other. Whilst I do not see it as thinly veiled shot at Goggins as some have interpreted it to be, it is still a telling example of the chasm in attitudes between the two parties. It would be interesting for them to hear them explain and compare their attitudes towards Hell Week, the SEAL teams, combat, leadership and life itself.
I agree and Marcus Luttrells take on BUD/s is that he’s THANKFUL for its crucible training bc it was the reason he endured the darkest moments of combat.
It’s always about the men and women you serve with, that’s what makes the American military so great! The bond that brings us together as brothers and sisters in combat.
Respect to you sir from Iraq
That was definitely something new, no doubt.
When Rob O Neill was up in the mountains with a bunch of his team guys, looking for Luttrell, he said himself "this is why we went through hell week." Every quarter mile going uphill in that environment is punishing. It's not just about weeding out the weak. It's removing the mind/body connection of the human body's pain threshold.
tommygunn504 ummmm. Shut your trap. These guys are commanders. They are Seals. I’m sure your not. Just shut up...
I know who they are bud. Jocko commanded the force that helped retake Ramadi. I'm familiar with these men and their backgrounds. Keep your keyboard tough guy shit at home chief. Nobody's impressed. All I was saying is that the same guy that was on Team 6 and capped Bin Laden, was on foot for days with little to no provisions, hiking all over the mountains looking for Luttrell. And he had said on Rut's podcast that if it weren't for hell week, he might not have made it through that evolution. You learn early on to push the pain away, and focus on your task, and it's amazing what the human body can endure when the mind takes over. Something i'm all to familiar with as a Katrina survivor.
Something about the way Jocko said "You gotta go swim in the cold ocean and roll around in the sand... 'Oh no'" made me laugh my ass off
these guys are pure gold
Never considered that, bro - that "integrate the NFL" vs. justifying the almost entirely politically motivated decision to have woman 11Bs analogy was spot on. Training only proves 1) you are able to be trained. 2) you can function at an incredibly fundamental level. It's an altogether different universe when you're thrown into a situation that is dynamic violence with infinite and unexpected variables, the intensity of which cannot be simulated.
Seen fuckers straight lose it once shit gets hollywood
I love my gals, we all do. Fact is we're built for high intensity battle over prolonged periods, and they are not. God bless em tho. Id love to see a woman achieve that. Combat requires a brutality men can summon more easily then women. The ugliest kind. The kjnd that says, 'im not gonna die here thousands of miles away from home today.' Then you just bang and its all a blur.
Chester Nimitz always struck me as hugely under rated. Loved that quote.
These guys are hitting the nail on the head. Not surprising because they have experience and are intelligent. Point to any conflict, and you'll of the many factors that influence the outcome, the resolve of the soldier to fight is highly influential on the outcome.
The buds stories are awesome though haha. I’ve heard a bunch of them and they’re hysterical.
These are the weirdest names I have ever heard.
bilbo baggins explains why buds is a joke
Rexo Mogblock
They sound like NPC names in some MMORPG
Frs😂
Lmao this just got me thinking. Is “Echo” his actual first name? I always assumed it was just a cool alias
"Tell us a BUDS story."
Jocko: Yeah sure, if you quit you suck 🤷♂️
8:27 LMAO Idk if he was going for a Jocko impression but if he was he fucking NAILED IT!
Amazed that these questions get repeatedly submitted.
Was listening to one of the first 15 or 20 podcasts, and this came up in the exact same way.
The video looks old tbh
David Goggins will tell you a buds story...
That guy has mental issues that need to be checked
Jocko Willink and Leif Babin are telling the truth. They are saying that in combat if a guy wants to kill you he will try to intentionally harm you just to satisfy his own selfish, egotistical desires to get you to doubt yourself. In order to negatively influence you to do things and behave wrongly. In order to cause you to become undisiplined.
I made sure to do 20 slow rep pushups tonight. Do calasthenics, jumping jacks. Burpees and go at my own pace and do the Spetsnaz Cooper Test. I am a beginner.
william QwartzyG who doesn’t
william QwartzyG He seems pretty level headed to me.. he’s just an extremist that’s all and he became successful for it.
@@user-qe7bt9dz1l Yeah...but you're also an extremist who is successful at intentionally antagonizing others to provoke them to physically fight/attack then kill you.
Congratulations, man!
You won again!
“Tell is a story about buds”
Jocko: 😒🙄
Best answer I've ever heard!
Best buds story I’ve heard thus far
Most everyone has a fleeting moment, predicament, or circumstance in their lives...A few seconds, maybe a few minutes even...where they give up fear, ignore pain, and push themselves...farther than ever before. That kind of will and determination is not a fleeting moment for these guys. It's a lifestyle.
Does anyone remember Jocko saying something along the lines of '''when you're 25 you look back at who you were at 20 and laugh at how dumb you were. Same thing at 30, you look back at 25 and so on and so on''?
For some reason that truth has stuck with me and I'd really like to find out where exactly I got it from and I am pretty sure it was from one of these episodes.
I think it was the 2nd interview on Joe's podcast. However, both are good in different ways.
2:43:23 of 'Joe Rogan Experience #729 - Jocko Willink
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@Zak Appreciate the help.
That was Matt Mac at his oscar win speech.
I really enjoyed this pod cast because they focused on combat. I served as a 12Bravo doing route clearance with a total of 27 months between Iraq and Afghanistan, I have seen guys talking tough until it got real. Talk about a pucker factor seriously.
7:13 is true as hell too and again I gotta say these Jocko podcast interview videos are very informative, authentic, and entertaining. And this is coming from a guy that used to not do a whole lot of internet surfing outside of cartoons, anime, music, facebook, and porn lol.
BUD/S instructor: hey you have to go into the freezing ocean and then roll around in the sand.
Jocko: good!
The relaxing of standards in the name of retention is the biggest challenge facing the military today.
Next would be the lack of leadership in the lower ranks.
What do you mean by lack of leadership in low ranks?
@@carpenter315 I've talked to a lot of lower ranking Army/Airmen about problems they're having that should be getting passed up the chain to a competent NCO who can find a solution. If they're not seeing it, how can they emulate it?
The greatest contribution to the current military leadership platform is that we have new up-and-coming amazing guys coming in all the time. There is a spectrum of all types, personalities, etc coming in. That in and of itself is great, but that is not the whole ball game. What I saw happen are these great and amazing guys who leave as 4 year PFCs and 8 year LCpls who were stacked with more chest-piece eyecandy than our SSgts. I saw these amazing Marines who knew what war was. I had the honor of being mentored by these outstanding guys who could really break down the motions and training environments/scenarios to an understandable degree; guys who excelled in what they did. They all left because they saw they had more to offer than what the Corps would allow them to give. They were capable of performing and doing better, but were held back by the Corps. So what ends up happening is all these phenomenal guys leave, because they are so sick of the BS, then guess what you're stuck with. All you have left are the sandbaggers and guys who have sub-par reasons for sticking around, either from institutionalization, or ignorance about the world, or some other negatively contributing aspect that has them making the decision to stick around. They end up staying until they either A) get kicked out or B) the Corps just throws rank at them. Now, there are crappy "leaders" in positions they never should be in simply because they were "the best" option available from the pool of people who brown nose or are yes men.
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And then we all sit back and wonder why the military is inefficient in the details of its planning, implementation processes. We wonder why we are standing in formation from 0400 to 1300 at parade rest just waiting for the Battalion Commander to release us for liberty. There is an infinite number of better and more productive ways in how to use time, train, and spend money. However, it's not always bad. There are the occasional good guys who actually make it to a position they deserve and just as the shit rolls down the hill, so does the positive influence of these good leaders who are few and far between.
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If the military focused on cleaning out their shitbag leaders, this would leave the opportunity for the real heros of war to step up and be recognized to do what they can to further propel the military in the forward moving progressive place it should have been all along.
@@jonathanbulkheed338 In the 80s under Reagan the same thing was happening so he instituted programs in every service to get the dead wood out and instill pride and leadership. It worked fantastically and that's why we had the trained and dedicated force that went into Iraq the first time.
@@jonathanbulkheed338 Shit! That's a critical observation but probably accurate. I entered Navy basic with an EOD contract. Halfway through basic I came to believe that I would probably just be wasting my time; I was 28 at the time. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, and no born leader. I definitely did not fit in with the majority of them being teens and probably would have just been a liability. I got myself kicked out. It is a minor regret but I didn't have the character or integrity required for the job. Yet it's character and integrity the absolutely only thing I care about right now.
-"You have to go get in cold water and roll around in the sand"
-"...oh no..."
I'll have to remember that line, lol.
2nd or 3rd time listening to this each time i get something else out of it.
Reminds me of Travis Lively. While everyone else was dying he was smiling all the way through BUDS.
He was too.
They literally don’t tell a BUDS story
lol what's that dude gonna do, yell at him?
@@mokrodog they would buy you and your little willy in ten seconds
@@aegonbreakspear9102 Do you know who you just wrote that to? My father owns a certain percent of apple so chill out, buddy.
@@mokrodog they would take you. And your snotty father.
@@aegonbreakspear9102I could take you and your weak father. I bet he dosen't own stock in apple like my fatHer does. HA! These people don't have a mind like I because I am richer then they are HA! NO ONE CAN TAKE ME
The main reasons buds is different are two fold; how you respond to external influences is entirely up to you since it’s a controlled environment, and you’re not in immediate danger. A battlefield is changes both of those REAL quick.
He really hit them with the “war, war never changes”
Lmao fallout 4
Here's one BUDS story from a friend of mine who went through it:
The instructors fuck with you by making you an intermediary to fuck with other instructors.
My friend told me how they can basically order a candidate to do this:
"Johnson!"
"Instructor Simmons, sir!"
"Go to Instructor Matthews and tell him if he weren't so white, he'd look pretty damn sweet!"
"Sir, yes sir!"
The guy goes to Instructor Matthews and says what Instructor Simmons told him to say
BUT forgot to preface it with "Instructor Matthews, Instructor Simmons told me to say to you..."
Needless to say, Johnson got PT'd into oblivion. lol
The navy doesn’t speak like that
I'm not sure if they really take shots at David Goggins because this was 2 years before Goggins book was published. Besides if I remember correctly Goggins mentioned that his deployments were relatively unspectacular, so buds was logically one of the hardest thing he went through as a Seal.
Not sure why people in this comment section call David Goggins fake or other insults. Just because Jocko calls Buds not a big deal doesn't mean that it's easy. Goggins had to do it with broken bones and one man drowned during it. I would have quit after 10 minutes and I bet that this applies to 99% of this comment section.
A podcast with David and Jocko would be awesome! :)
No, it wouldn't.
Buds is very difficult yes. But what they’re saying is BUDS should not be the highlight of your career. And if it is, then you didn’t deploy. Goggins actually refused to deploy. And Dan balzierian is just a fake baby that inherited his money and wants to look cool.
At the end of the day, it’s hard, but nothing compared to combat
Guys, thanks for sharing that perspective. IEDs and live rounds are a few notches up from "wet & sandy".
Jocko and Leif. Like the names of viking warlords. It’s so wild how perfect their names fit.
8:26 I'm scared of this man's voice now
“They drown you & bring you back to life”
I’m down 🙋🏻♂️🇺🇸
What is dead may never die?
"The nature of war does not change" I will fucking remember that because its true as hell. And that statement wouldn't have hit me so hard if I had not have gone through all the trials and tribulations that I had.
I think alot of times when people ask for stories its kinda like looking for a spark of nitivation or just soothing curiosity even but for me ive always enjoyed hearing seals talk because its incredibly motivating and you can use alot of these principles in every day life, no ill never be a seal but i can be a better me if i live by certain principles idk for sure but thats my guess
“Big strong guys smashing each other”
Pause....
cmoon
I see some people talking about Goggins, and I think the reason he talks about it much more is bc of where he came from. He came from a bad home and when he decided he wanted to become a seal he was unmotivated and extremely out of shape. To be fit enough and pass through training as hard as buds was a huge milestone for him. For someone like jocko who i think was pretty fit leading into training, it’s probably not that big a deal.
I think it’s a big deal for them all at the time but as they get to combat they realize it really is just an entry gate
Jocko basically says it just a training to do "the job". Goggins act like it all about himself not the team, like it's a gym or rehab
military is a job and it's bigger than individual
no wonder goggin has terrible reputation within the teams
Being ex army I know of big, tough, physical guys who have absolutely crashed in a real firefight. Mental toughness is the key to everything
My buddy is a retired 10th mountain ranger who spend a fair bit of time down range. He referred to ranger school as “a lot of walking around”
Jocko: Basically its was a walk in the park compared to the actual job
1:35 I'm sensing a Low key Dan Bilzerian roast 🤔
fuck this puts everything in perspective instantly. Had to edit, can’t even imagine a single thing in this and really makes me think ab anyone who comes back from combat
I like how echo asks the question looking at jocko like your gonna like this one.. 😂
you are a warrior or you are not.....period!