she didn't lose a son she only cared about herself, and how baldurs death would make HER feel when the spell breaks she screams no which is proof that she was never sorry for what she did
@@cesarreyes6655 She doesn't feel bad for trying to protect him, but it's pretty clear by the end of Ragnarok she's come to terms with the fact that what she did was wrong. That's why she's not continuing to attempt to kill Kratos.
@@cesarreyes6655bro I’ve seen this under like 3 comments in a row there’s a whole other game after the events you discussed so you ain’t making sense ontop of the fact you look like a clown going around here
Kratos: traumatic working class daddy. Freya: divorced salty aunty. Mimir: smart ass and funny uncle. Too bad Thor is dead, he would make a fine drunk uncle as well.
@@ThatGuy-sv2ko not true, post game side quest gets you exploring one of the Asgard prisons and you find Tyr alive and well in it. Turns out that prison was used by Odin to disguise as anyone that was kept inside it. He thought he would be more of use to him alive.
Freya's grindset: - Your son is dead - Get acquainted with the man who killed him - Befriend him and slowly woo him over the course of an adventure - Integrate yourself into the family - Claim his child as your own
this is how u know people are educated to be biased. she took baldurs life away the worst thing someone can do. if baldur took some type of drink that made him feel nothing and he acted the way he acted killing and fighting n everything and freya came with a potion yall would still feel the same way u do now as if theyre both done right. she took living from him just like odin took lives from his sons, she did too to baldur. if I were atreus I'd run cuz she doesnt even see that she is evil she really believes she has ANY right to be mad at anyone for giving baldur what he wanted. when the spell breaks she screams no which is proof that she was never sorry, she only cared for herself and how baldurs death would make HER feel n how SHE will be forever angry
@@cesarreyes6655what she did might have been horrendously wrong and messed up but it was for a good reason she wanted to protect baulder from his fate no matter the cost It was very selfish yes but she still cared deeply for him probably a bit too much hence her decision
Not a bad plan since they know mistletoe can break the spell. Become invincible at all times, break it during seggs for the good feels, then become invincible again so you can't get murked even in your sleep. EZ life.
In a way Freya became a mother figure to Atreus since GOW 2018. She also helped him when he was ill and had helped Kratos and Atreus during their journey. I am glad that she was redeemed and helped out Atreus and Kratos even though she did try to kill Kratos a few times but eventually found common ground.
I get the vibe that when Atreus first confronted Freya, in her mind she be like: "Look kid, I want to kill your father but even I know this is stupid."
She does not want to kill him.... her behaviour and body language states that she was trying to provoke him... what she really wants to be slain by Kratos. Which is why she wore the Valkyrie costume and attacked them... knowing Kratos would not hold back... until he figured it out and... well held back. She gave up, found new purpose as the new leader of the Vanir and hopefully a new family with Kratos and Atreus and Mimir. I just wished she had some reunion with Baldr in the afterlife... who after death was supposed to become the new Allfather of the Afterlife and turn the afterlives into basically a Garden of Eden. It would help her more... knowing her dead son is sane again and thrives as a ruler of a peaceful afterlife.
My mom has told me that a few times. And it never fails to bring happiness and pride to me because I value her opinion over everyone else except mine. I’m grateful for her
I just wish if Baldur was still alive and not a murderous crackhead. He could be a cool step-brother to Atreus considering he was like Atreus in his youth, always curious and eager to help anyone.
@@evantambolang3052 the biggest twist would be that Baldur wasn’t invulnerable to everything but mistletoe, he just smoked crack all day and he just stopped feeling anything cause he was always high off his ass
I mean, we learn throughout the story Mimir regrets a lot of bad deeds he did when sided with Odin, so in a way he must feel he deserves it. The three of them got the shaft by Odin for trying to be the good guys, only that Freya and Tyr didn't do the bad deeds Mimir did (that we know of). It's normal for someone to hold other people in higher praise than themselves, especially when you know you have things to be ashamed of.
@@devanshanil2468 Bruh...Mimir is dead. The norns said "Mimir's Head" for a reason. That's a zombie hanging on Kratos's belt who is blessed with invulnerability to all threats both physical and magical. My guess is that Mimir will ask Freya to put him to rest in the next game, after Kratos's demise. Guessing the whole thing takes place years later and it is revealed that Freya is pregnant at the end.
Needs to maintain his cover, if “Tyr” directly supported going to Odin he’d raise peoples suspicions too much, so he simply argues against Ragnarock or any real offensive actions, leaving them with only two real options, either they do nothing, try to maintain the peace (which buys Odin time), or they send Atreus to Asgard/get Atreus to become desperate and feel isolated and go on his own to Asgard, which just puts the ball in Odin’s court.
8:42 - Mimir is the best voice actor in this game, when he's truly being emotional, he's speaking like real life and his tone tores my soul apart. Damn.
even odin agrees XD jokes aside: seriously, atreus even considering it is a betrayel to Mimir after everything he endured. as if smartest man alive never attempted to talk Odin to his senses
Odin (disguised as Tyr) must be very delighted seeing the father and son fight and debate with each other as part of his plan to avert Ragnarok and in a way create a rift between them.
At the same time, the fact that they can argue and disagree and then reconcile, and have learned to repeat this pattern over and over again, was what doomed Odin. both Atreus and Kratos will be stubborn for a long time but ultimately both will bend and meet in the middle. And that strength of the two of them was what doomed Odin in the end. Once Kratos changed enough to avoid his doom and death, he was always going to be the one Atreus trusted and Odin could do nothing about this.
8:53 Look at that charectar growth. Freya is able to accept that someone she loves not only didn't resist death, but welcomed it to save the people he cared for. Instead of lashing out in rage at the world, she accepts it. Even returning the arrowhead to atreaus to show she's forgiven him and Kratos for the death of Baldur
@@noahscott7272 Lack of the shock arrows I think. Also there's no ability/relic/armor that let's your companion recover health crystals like Atreus could in 4
Mimir usually doesn't talk when it's Kratos and Atreus talking to each other. He respects his role as an uncle and Kratos and Atreus' private moment as father and son, but when Atreus dropped "asshole" I knew he wouldn't tolerate such absurd behaviour (especially given Odin and all that).
I really love how when Kratos and Atreus get into the argument about where he's been, Mimir steps into the conversation And Kratos Has Him Face Atreus. He doesn't interject or stop him, he lets him speak his mind cuz he has a point to make and allows him to scald the boy. It's small but it shows Kratos' respect for him and his view on the matter while also reminds us of the fact that Mimir saw Atreus grow up too and has the right to call him out on his bullshit. Its kinda funny but also... cute? Don't know if "cute" is the right word to describe anything in GOW
Wholesome, the word you're looking for is wholesome. In a strange way, sure, but I find it very wholesome that Mimir is essentially an uncle to Atreus, guess that him calling Kratos "brother" all the time really grew on him.
That's one thing Kratos has learnt. He respects people around him more and is considerate of them. Like for Mimir, he now lifts him up to a person when they're talking. He points them to their face. Earlier the poor gor just dangled off his hip while the other person talked to him. He also lifts him up for things Mimir would be interested in seeing. So he can form memories of his own too and be like a person rather than a tool
Sony Game Devs:"OKAY how do we keep people invested besides our story plot and gameplay?" The Janitor:"Make them ship Freya and Kratos?" Sony Game Devs:*Slams hands on the table* "SOMEONE GET THAT JANITOR A RAISE!"
I'd say he did have that same energy when he had the big argument with kratos and mimir (hell everyone really) atreus may be in his teens but still even as one he isnt fully ready to realise his decisions yet especially making ones involving asgardians like thor and odin
In case anyone didn't notice. The area where Atreus finds Freya again at the beginning is the Council of the Valkyries where you fight Sigrun in the first game.
I could see Kratos & Freya together eventually. After all the horrible shit the two of them had been through, I'd say they both deserve that happiness, once both of them have healed enough to be ready to love again. Besides, I kinda like how much of a motherly figure Freya is to Atreus.
And to top it off they are both gods, so they wont need to worry about dying ofnold age or a sickness...and wont need to worry about betrayal because both have mutual respect and understanding of each other...
I have to disagree. Let them just be friends/allies. My opinion: These two as a couple, would not work. There's been moments when they conflict in a not healthy way and Mimir has been there to aid. Not only that, Kratos killed Baldur. That grief hurt and changed Freya forever. She has moved on, but will always be somewhat angry to Kratos, even though he's not one to blame. She has forgiven, but not forgotten it. And even though Faye's gone, Kratos still cares for her. There was no one else who could see him the way she did. Both Freya and Kratos have suffered so much, that all they both need is rest and a family to be with (no romance involved)
"Do not expect the same mercy for your father." Cuts to Kratos and Freya having a leisurely conversation while rowing a boat down the rivers in Vanaheim
I swear from darkness into the light , Atreus will be the wholesome side of loki. Even marvel tried to make there loki look the best in the light. But GOW Loki will far surpass that in terms of compassion, Justice and love . I hope they use Atreus for a plot point that resembles tyre more than kratos. We've seen what pure vengeance and rage can take out MC but imagine the "BEST case scenario for our future MC to develop into ? Haha my bad I'm drunk and I love GOW
Atreus will defenately be much much more like Týr growing up. A warrior with an open heart, but still the chaotic energy of his father and his rage. And way less calm and collected then Týr. A healthy ballance.
freya is a very strong character. i love her due to her strong will and mercy. she didn't forget or forgive kratos and atreus, but she tried to understand the bigger picture in the game and learned to shift her gaze from just one enemy. might sound easy but in real life, that is very hard, even after losing her own child. she even decided to come back for vengeance.
Even though they said they’re done with Norse Mythology, I am hoping Freya will be a companion of Kratos both a fighting companion and romance. Kratos did ask Feya to join him in rebuilding. Freya was a great character. So I hope she will be A reoccurring one. Along with Mimir of course. I wonder what will happen to Atreus though. I think he made Sindri his own nemesis.
If there will ever be a GOW3 I would break down in tears if Atreus and Freya had a moment to talk before another end of the world battle and she said something like. "Atreus, things have not been easy for any of us leading up to this moment, but if this is the end I just want you to know that that you are not a companion, not even a friend..., Because Atreus... you have become my son, and as long as I live I will fight and die to protect you just like your father as always done" It sounds cheesy I know but I really love the idea of Freya becoming a second mother to Atreus.
This comment almost mimics the one that Nyx has with Zagreus in the game Hades, how he views her as a mother figure, and Nyx loves him like her own child. Its so touching ;(
@@WolverWayne1 There is no trilogy, odds are we will get a gow game centered on Atreus/Loki searching for the giants but it will hardly be part of the Ragnarok saga.
I relate a fair bit to Atreus in the game. The annoyance of never being believed, the lack of approval from a parent (father or otherwise), and knowing no shortage of pain in his life. Hearing Freya tell Atreus that she was proud of the man he had become hit way too close to home for me, having never heard it from anyone before myself.
To be fair he brought that upon himself. He had no reason to promise Angraboda that he would keep Ironwood a secret and lie to his father. Kratos only stops believing him because Atreus lies and won’t tell him where he’s been.
I admit I’m a little disappointed that we didn’t get a small conversation with Sindri and Freya about the mistletoe arrow being his and that he was the one who gave it to Atreus. That would’ve been hilarious to witness with him constantly trying to apologize and her messing with him
What is so frustrating about this ending, is that there is open questions still unanswered. The mask and the green light is a clear nod to the higher existence that Athena obtained, but Kratos never makes reference of it, even though he should know there is something behind the realm tear. A god dying in sacrifice of another would infer Freyr also achieved this higher plane, given he saved everyone. The resurrection of the giants, what came after that? Was Baldur destined to come back from helheim like in the original story? Is he just permanently deleted? Resurrection of Baldur would be some way to square up with Freya. The murals depicting Tyr from the first game - could they really be Kratos too, as he assumes the god of war mantle in Norse Realms? Will kratos travel once he has rebuilt midgard ? I think there's a good number of questions after the end credits.
@@sammitchellchannel8944 a sequel in 4 years would be good to answer the giant questions, but not explaining the chekovs gun on the table (the mask) is a really big no no in story telling. Odin's ENTIRE motivation was to know what was beyond the tear. And the protagonist knows something. It should have been in the game. There's little things I would overlook, like went faye being in the light, knowing you can pull people out of light and resurrect them. Kratos looking longingly at the light... he could pull her out and give her a post ragnarok life. There's a few things that really need unpacked.
I feel like a lot of those things tie back to Atreus' overall plotline that they built up in this game. A lot of people want a sequel spin-off for Atreus, so that would be where you'd get those answers since Kratos wouldn't care about that, but Atreus is still a very curious character. He may stumble onto something in the likes of Egypt while looking for the Giants there and reveal a larger conspiracy by Athena who might have set everything up to use Odin to corrupt Atreus so that Kratos will be killed by his own son. Then they can tie Kratos and all back into it later when Atreus needs his help. The ending mural, to me anyway, suggests that Kratos will help unite not just the nine realms but different pantheons against a joint threat to all of them; Athena.
@@lilchaos9212 Feels pretty obvious they'd make a sequal with Atreus as the main character and having Kratos a side charcter or just even a cameo at this point. The game ends with Atreus taking of on his own, after all
@@lilchaos9212 whilst that could be true, and a sequel would be fun (although atreus is nowhere near as fun to play as compared to kratos and would need a full on mechanics overhaul to last a game) it doesn't remedy the fact that if you bring up something like that in the story, it should at least be commented on. For example, Mimir was with him on the boat to get the BoC in GoW so he could have asked why he said the name... then kratos could've said he saw her and she spoke of a higher form of being back in Greece. These things are necessary in my opinion to really deal with the mask issue. It's really my main gripe. Other than no punch melee build options or skill tree lol.
8:37 If I saw this picture out of nowhere I would assume it’s about a father, a mother, they’re pet talking goat head and a Norwegian basketball player who is now a witch discussing with they’re son why he can’t go adventuring XD
Everybody joining in to scold Atreus was so great. These are 4 of the most powerful (or smart) people ever, and they still can't control an unruly kid that's half-giant, half-Kratos lmao
The person playing is a goat because I loved when they stopped rowing when Freya was telling kratos about how balder felt like he wasn't getting his father's approval.
(After many days of adventures) Kratos: good work today, Freya. I am tired. … why is there a ⭕️ above me? This only happens when- Freya: your boy needs a mother.
Freya, Norse goddess of harvest and fertility, merciful paragon of femininity, upon looking at the spawn of a war god, responsible for countless deaths: "mine lol"
Let’s be honest Freya is technically good mother .. she ain’t evil Yes she went full “protective” in GoW 4 But makes sense … she loves her child, it would be very fuck up if she behaved like Odin who didn’t bother caring about gods dying or killing them even if they are their sons … so Freya being caring for Baldur makes sense Also Atreus makes way better son for her.
To be fair, if I was gifted with magical abilities like her, in this day and age? Idk if I could keep myself from doing the same to my son in an attempt to keep him from harm.
The fact that Mimir is so embedded in the family that he is the only one who can interupt/ join Kratos and Atreus's arguement WHEN KRATOS IS ALSO VERY MAD.
Atreus calls him his second father. Mimir was like the softer father figure while Kratos was the disciplinarian. In a way Mimir and Kratos raised Atreus for like 3 years.
Not the focus of the video but I love that when Atreus says the Giants called him Loki, Freya gives the same look everyone else does, “is that supposed to mean something to me? I don’t speak Giant, so unless it means Odin-killer, I don’t care.”
Almost like Kratos and Freya are Atreus’/Loki’s parents and they constantly argue, but want to have Atreus/Loki to themselves and raise him differently. Child custody.
Anyone else notices "Tyr" is looking dead at you for a moment, instead of Atreus? He looks at him, taps the bowl like to get your attention, then looks at you. As if he knows you're too distracted on the drama to see he is looking like "Who's the God of mischief now? "
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I like that when Kratos is scolding Atreus for leaving, he takes Mimir off his hip so he can also scold him like they’re co-parenting
I mean they basically are 😂
So basically he said “I’m so mad at you, here Mimir you talk some sense into him now!”
Kratos probably loves having someone to talk for him considering how short he is with his words.
Mimir is like the grandfather or uncle and kratos is the father
** Braatha **
A boy who lost his mother… and a mother who lost her son. After all the suffering they both endured… they deserve to be happy.
Everybody does ✅
she didn't lose a son she only cared about herself, and how baldurs death would make HER feel when the spell breaks she screams no which is proof that she was never sorry for what she did
@@cesarreyes6655 She doesn't feel bad for trying to protect him, but it's pretty clear by the end of Ragnarok she's come to terms with the fact that what she did was wrong. That's why she's not continuing to attempt to kill Kratos.
@@cesarreyes6655bro I’ve seen this under like 3 comments in a row there’s a whole other game after the events you discussed so you ain’t making sense ontop of the fact you look like a clown going around here
She should have a grandson as Balder had a son who was even mentioned in ragnarok.
Forseti the god of justice
Kratos: traumatic working class daddy.
Freya: divorced salty aunty.
Mimir: smart ass and funny uncle.
Too bad Thor is dead, he would make a fine drunk uncle as well.
Well we got Tyr, the distant wise uncle that does tai chi
@@tu4i775 That is dead
What about Brok and Sindri?
@@ThatGuy-sv2ko not true, post game side quest gets you exploring one of the Asgard prisons and you find Tyr alive and well in it.
Turns out that prison was used by Odin to disguise as anyone that was kept inside it. He thought he would be more of use to him alive.
@@JamailvanWestering cousins
Freya's grindset:
- Your son is dead
- Get acquainted with the man who killed him
- Befriend him and slowly woo him over the course of an adventure
- Integrate yourself into the family
- Claim his child as your own
Good family ending 😎👍🤗🫂
- Rock the nine - realms with the ultimate cheek clapping that Kratos is sure to give
Woman logic my g 😆👏🏾👏🏾
Least horny Freya Kratos shipper:
Bonus points: Freya gets pregnant by Kratos and haves twin Daughters.
The fact Freya hugs Atreus like he's her actual son genuinely made me cry, it was such a sweet moment
Yes! I loved to see it.
this is how u know people are educated to be biased. she took baldurs life away the worst thing someone can do. if baldur took some type of drink that made him feel nothing and he acted the way he acted killing and fighting n everything and freya came with a potion yall would still feel the same way u do now as if theyre both done right. she took living from him just like odin took lives from his sons, she did too to baldur. if I were atreus I'd run cuz she doesnt even see that she is evil she really believes she has ANY right to be mad at anyone for giving baldur what he wanted. when the spell breaks she screams no which is proof that she was never sorry, she only cared for herself and how baldurs death would make HER feel n how SHE will be forever angry
@@cesarreyes6655what she did might have been horrendously wrong and messed up but it was for a good reason she wanted to protect baulder from his fate no matter the cost
It was very selfish yes but she still cared deeply for him probably a bit too much hence her decision
@@wolfhunted7702that dude went around saying this under every comment he’s a loser dw
@@cesarreyes6655 not everything is black and white
Freya : “Don’t worry My son, i will make you invincible”
Arteus : 👁️👄👁️
Ain’t no way bruh
I mean, depending on how easy it is to perform that ritual, invincibility on demand would be amazing.
Not a bad plan since they know mistletoe can break the spell. Become invincible at all times, break it during seggs for the good feels, then become invincible again so you can't get murked even in your sleep. EZ life.
“Plsno”
I mean with how much button mashing he's done in the past I'm sure that can be arranged.
Seeing Freya hug Atreus was one of the most wholesome moments I’ve seen in this franchise
Yes it was. It was so sweet
In a way Freya became a mother figure to Atreus since GOW 2018. She also helped him when he was ill and had helped Kratos and Atreus during their journey. I am glad that she was redeemed and helped out Atreus and Kratos even though she did try to kill Kratos a few times but eventually found common ground.
@@ricardomarquez7730 facts
FACTS
@@ShaneDouglas713 thanks
Lets hope she doesn't bless him with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical.
Oh that would be "horrible"
welp, atleast we have something to make loki mad
He knows how to break that curse though...
@Marouan Fares Freya made him that way, that's the joke
@@ennieminymoo6675 You mean how she blessed Baldur with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical?
I get the vibe that when Atreus first confronted Freya, in her mind she be like: "Look kid, I want to kill your father but even I know this is stupid."
She does not want to kill him.... her behaviour and body language states that she was trying to provoke him... what she really wants to be slain by Kratos. Which is why she wore the Valkyrie costume and attacked them... knowing Kratos would not hold back... until he figured it out and... well held back.
She gave up, found new purpose as the new leader of the Vanir and hopefully a new family with Kratos and Atreus and Mimir. I just wished she had some reunion with Baldr in the afterlife... who after death was supposed to become the new Allfather of the Afterlife and turn the afterlives into basically a Garden of Eden.
It would help her more... knowing her dead son is sane again and thrives as a ruler of a peaceful afterlife.
@@Ozzie_Mandias She sort of reunited with Baldur but it was more of twisted smoke illusions.
@@Ozzie_Mandias I agree, in my head that is what was going on. She just wants release but Kratos refuse to deliver.
@@markhunter3533 Kratos having 'been there done that got the white facepant" knows there's nothing worthwhile down the road Freya wanted to go
@@lyqueruss2715 this is what everybody doesnt realise ❤
hearing "i'm so proud of the man you've become atreus" hit me hard man
My mom has told me that a few times. And it never fails to bring happiness and pride to me because I value her opinion over everyone else except mine. I’m grateful for her
I just wish if Baldur was still alive and not a murderous crackhead. He could be a cool step-brother to Atreus considering he was like Atreus in his youth, always curious and eager to help anyone.
@@evantambolang3052 the biggest twist would be that Baldur wasn’t invulnerable to everything but mistletoe, he just smoked crack all day and he just stopped feeling anything cause he was always high off his ass
Freya: You owe me a new son.
Kratos: Fine *Unclasps Belt*
Freya: I've adopted your son...
Does it anyway.
@@AJZulu As expected from the Dad of War.
@@edge1247 *Dad of Boi
Bro☠️
@@AJZulu she doesn't mind
I love that Mimir thinks what Freya and Tyr endured was worse than his own misfortune.
It's probably because he thinks he deserved it for his actions under odin
he may be happy to hang with god of war the ghost of Sparta and call him ** Braatha **
I mean, we learn throughout the story Mimir regrets a lot of bad deeds he did when sided with Odin, so in a way he must feel he deserves it.
The three of them got the shaft by Odin for trying to be the good guys, only that Freya and Tyr didn't do the bad deeds Mimir did (that we know of). It's normal for someone to hold other people in higher praise than themselves, especially when you know you have things to be ashamed of.
@@devanshanil2468 Bruh...Mimir is dead. The norns said "Mimir's Head" for a reason. That's a zombie hanging on Kratos's belt who is blessed with invulnerability to all threats both physical and magical. My guess is that Mimir will ask Freya to put him to rest in the next game, after Kratos's demise. Guessing the whole thing takes place years later and it is revealed that Freya is pregnant at the end.
@@DA_BOID Wow you really want God of War 6 to be absolute misery
Kratos: what is this? How is it possible to have ⭕ above me?
Freya: YOU OWNED ME A SON, KRATOSSS!!!
💀
Owed* (dont try to berate just being a bxxxxch
Kratos: oh no... Aga... 🔼⭕🔲↩️↪️🔺🔻
Look how the table has turned
Kratos: I'll take it.
The way atreus revises his lines at the beginning remind me of Spiderman ngl
Spiderman PS4!
Both are teenagers with special abilities...
@@Zeegoku1007 peter is a young adult in Marvel's Spider-Man
I think its tragic. Its because of his lack of social life and his dad is HIS DAD. can't have casual conversations
@@sadhvikpuchalapalli lack of social life? He socialized with many characters in GOW 4 and Ragnarok
Freya was like : Your father killed my son so now you become my son 😅
So does that mean Kratos gets all the benefits too? I mean if Atreus is her son then what is Kratos ;)
@@LisaAnn777 the god of war ofcourse
@@marcodragneel8035 all is fair in love and war.
@@LisaAnn777 kratos is the New husband. 2 widowers are coming together. Maybe Atreus will get a brother or sister in the future
@@LisaAnn777 mimir would have said that
"hE'Ll cL0uD y0UR M1nd" -Odin himself disguised as tyr 🤣
Truth is the best way to misguide people.
😆😆😭😭 ironic
He said that while already clouding thier mind. I think odin get a aroused with that buffunery 🤣🤣
It's like that meme of the guy pointing a gun at himself from behind.
Needs to maintain his cover, if “Tyr” directly supported going to Odin he’d raise peoples suspicions too much, so he simply argues against Ragnarock or any real offensive actions, leaving them with only two real options, either they do nothing, try to maintain the peace (which buys Odin time), or they send Atreus to Asgard/get Atreus to become desperate and feel isolated and go on his own to Asgard, which just puts the ball in Odin’s court.
8:42 - Mimir is the best voice actor in this game, when he's truly being emotional, he's speaking like real life and his tone tores my soul apart. Damn.
Damn right
@@The-No-one Brok: Damn straight it is. But don’t forget me.
even odin agrees XD
jokes aside: seriously, atreus even considering it is a betrayel to Mimir after everything he endured.
as if smartest man alive never attempted to talk Odin to his senses
NANOMITES SON!
Fun fact: His VA voices Senator Armstrong.
Kratos killed Baldur, he owes Freya a new son.
Thats true hahahaha
just press O a few times and u get new baldur ez
Kratos gotta clap those cheeks
@@albertgiovanno1359 Instructions unclear: I pressed D a few times and I got HIV instead. FUCK
😏
you know shit is serious even Mimir yell at you
exactly what i thought
Mimir of chaos
Boi don't make me have to get Mimir to yell at you
Mimir: Care-free, chill, smart-mouthed and wise. Woe be the person who invokes his frustration and anger.
Like when Uncle Iroh yelled at Zuko
Odin (disguised as Tyr) must be very delighted seeing the father and son fight and debate with each other as part of his plan to avert Ragnarok and in a way create a rift between them.
Odin (Tyr) : "He (Odin) will only cloud your mind."
Especially when he made that “Champ” comment to Atreus. He really got them going there
Atreus was hell bent on getting everyone killed to get his answers lol
@@adamsaunders4712 Nice catch there, throughout the game Atreus was increasingly becoming another Odin
At the same time, the fact that they can argue and disagree and then reconcile, and have learned to repeat this pattern over and over again, was what doomed Odin. both Atreus and Kratos will be stubborn for a long time but ultimately both will bend and meet in the middle. And that strength of the two of them was what doomed Odin in the end. Once Kratos changed enough to avoid his doom and death, he was always going to be the one Atreus trusted and Odin could do nothing about this.
Kratos: I used the boy to destroy her boy
pokemon move lol
Lol
I caught that thanos reference
BOY USE MISTLETOE
ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE
@@WykedLord
*BALDUR FAINTED*
Kratos: "That's not good enough!"
*snaps neck*
"How did you two meet?"
"I killed her son."
Uh no
My son shot her boar
Got to make an impression somehow.
“- and her ex husband”
Now that's an Animal Planet move right there
@@dslamngu To be fair to him. He had her permission for that one.
8:53 Look at that charectar growth. Freya is able to accept that someone she loves not only didn't resist death, but welcomed it to save the people he cared for. Instead of lashing out in rage at the world, she accepts it. Even returning the arrowhead to atreaus to show she's forgiven him and Kratos for the death of Baldur
Wonderful character development. I really like what they did with Freya in this game.
*”you take my son, I take your son.”*
-Freya
"We make a new one."
@@AJZulu no just no
Ayo context? 🤔
@@AJZulu no
⭕️
Freya is such a badass. And her VA did an amazing job
Great mother figure, great teacher, great foil to Kratos
Danielle Bisutti
@@luisasera9174 the one true mommy in the VA cast lol
I was sad that as your side kick, both her and Atreus felt weaker than Boy in the first game
@@noahscott7272 Lack of the shock arrows I think. Also there's no ability/relic/armor that let's your companion recover health crystals like Atreus could in 4
She even bring an adoption papers can you believe it
8:00 The fact that Kratos needed Mirmir to help lecture his uncontrollable teenage son 🤣🤣🤣
Always good to know that they've really become brothers.
mimir and freya were on kratos side, odin was an untrustworty person
Mimir usually doesn't talk when it's Kratos and Atreus talking to each other. He respects his role as an uncle and Kratos and Atreus' private moment as father and son, but when Atreus dropped "asshole" I knew he wouldn't tolerate such absurd behaviour (especially given Odin and all that).
I really like the scene where freya pulled out the adoption papers and then had kratos sign them with tears in his eyes so touching 🥺
I really love how when Kratos and Atreus get into the argument about where he's been, Mimir steps into the conversation And Kratos Has Him Face Atreus.
He doesn't interject or stop him, he lets him speak his mind cuz he has a point to make and allows him to scald the boy. It's small but it shows Kratos' respect for him and his view on the matter while also reminds us of the fact that Mimir saw Atreus grow up too and has the right to call him out on his bullshit. Its kinda funny but also... cute?
Don't know if "cute" is the right word to describe anything in GOW
Wholesome, the word you're looking for is wholesome. In a strange way, sure, but I find it very wholesome that Mimir is essentially an uncle to Atreus, guess that him calling Kratos "brother" all the time really grew on him.
Wholesome and human
You're getting a like for "Mimir steps into", and I definitely agree with you on your point.
That's one thing Kratos has learnt. He respects people around him more and is considerate of them. Like for Mimir, he now lifts him up to a person when they're talking. He points them to their face. Earlier the poor gor just dangled off his hip while the other person talked to him.
He also lifts him up for things Mimir would be interested in seeing. So he can form memories of his own too and be like a person rather than a tool
@@optimusck1826 just wait till you get to the end of the game, the growth of the casts in this game!
I find it to be a masterful move for Odin to take Kratos’ side in the argument
He was just a sly bastard
she already adopt him in the previous game..
she admit it to kratos; "i will keep him safe, it's a mother promise"..
Mimir slapping Atreus with reality check about 'good reason to see Odin to prevent bad things to happen'
I mean, it didn’t work, but good effort.
You know you fucked up when even Mimir scolds you.
Freya and kratos really make a good couple ! Not gone lie i can see them being a couple going to different pantheons together
@@Walker_Dead_Phoenix.2016 ayo? 📸
@@Walker_Dead_Phoenix.2016 nope.
@@Walker_Dead_Phoenix.2016nope no no no no no no no no so much no🫥
@@Walker_Dead_Phoenix.2016 what? Someone has mommy issues
@@Walker_Dead_Phoenix.2016 Man are u ok, Do u need help?
Sony really manifested a thirst amongst the audience between Freya and Kratos, those sly yet smart bastards.
Bruh
Not wrong.
Sony Game Devs:"OKAY how do we keep people invested besides our story plot and gameplay?"
The Janitor:"Make them ship Freya and Kratos?"
Sony Game Devs:*Slams hands on the table* "SOMEONE GET THAT JANITOR A RAISE!"
No...
@@zombieexecutioner2560 and that very same man went on to become executive janitor
It's actually heartwarming to see mimir care for atreus so much. It's no wonder atreus saw him as a second dad.
atreus has such tom holland energy when talking to himself
I'd say he did have that same energy when he had the big argument with kratos and mimir (hell everyone really) atreus may be in his teens but still even as one he isnt fully ready to realise his decisions yet especially making ones involving asgardians like thor and odin
Now kratos can collect red orbs
Eyyyy
Eyyyoooo
hahahaha, we gonna need the old ps3 controllers for that
Blood orbs
Well thats give me a smile
It's actually amazing how you could feel that hug freya gives atreus in the end..
Atreus: "hands over adoption papers"
Kratos: " can you sign mine?"
Freya: what
Kratos : what
In case anyone didn't notice. The area where Atreus finds Freya again at the beginning is the Council of the Valkyries where you fight Sigrun in the first game.
Yeah because she was the Valkyrie queen
And because that's where sindri said she'd be
I could see Kratos & Freya together eventually. After all the horrible shit the two of them had been through, I'd say they both deserve that happiness, once both of them have healed enough to be ready to love again. Besides, I kinda like how much of a motherly figure Freya is to Atreus.
Agreed
And to top it off they are both gods, so they wont need to worry about dying ofnold age or a sickness...and wont need to worry about betrayal because both have mutual respect and understanding of each other...
odds are Kratos and Freya will most likely end up creating an new pantheon of gods that are half Greek and half Norse.
@@ajizel13 kratos would still outlive freya tho. Just give or take 5000 years
I have to disagree. Let them just be friends/allies.
My opinion:
These two as a couple, would not work. There's been moments when they conflict in a not healthy way and Mimir has been there to aid. Not only that, Kratos killed Baldur. That grief hurt and changed Freya forever. She has moved on, but will always be somewhat angry to Kratos, even though he's not one to blame. She has forgiven, but not forgotten it. And even though Faye's gone, Kratos still cares for her. There was no one else who could see him the way she did.
Both Freya and Kratos have suffered so much, that all they both need is rest and a family to be with (no romance involved)
Freya: You owe me a son Kratos.
Kratos: In my land, a payment of white orbs often satisfied a greving mother.
"Do not expect the same mercy for your father."
Cuts to Kratos and Freya having a leisurely conversation while rowing a boat down the rivers in Vanaheim
I swear from darkness into the light , Atreus will be the wholesome side of loki. Even marvel tried to make there loki look the best in the light. But GOW Loki will far surpass that in terms of compassion, Justice and love . I hope they use Atreus for a plot point that resembles tyre more than kratos. We've seen what pure vengeance and rage can take out MC but imagine the "BEST case scenario for our future MC to develop into ? Haha my bad I'm drunk and I love GOW
Don't know what MCU's Loki has to do with this he's better in different aspects than this version of Loki
@@Mannyhdz0052 like?
Atreus will defenately be much much more like Týr growing up. A warrior with an open heart, but still the chaotic energy of his father and his rage. And way less calm and collected then Týr. A healthy ballance.
10 years later
Atreus: dad meet your grandson
Kratos: BOY meet your sister
God of War 6, Atreus gets a little brother named Boi after he left Kratos and Freya in the end of Ragnarok.
Or maybe a sister!
The way Mimir scolded Atreus was gold
Loki finally getting the recognition he deserved, what a time we're living in
freya is a very strong character. i love her due to her strong will and mercy. she didn't forget or forgive kratos and atreus, but she tried to understand the bigger picture in the game and learned to shift her gaze from just one enemy. might sound easy but in real life, that is very hard, even after losing her own child. she even decided to come back for vengeance.
jesus, the facial expressions for Freya....the graphics are insanely done well.
its motion capture
If you think about it, the ending scene resembles like a marriage proposal by Kratos to Freya.
They’re getting there, but not yet. More like platonic soulmates. Give it time, though
Don't worry, Kratos will clap Freya's cheeks soon enough.
@@portagasdace21117 Soon? Itll take 4 or 5 years
@@TravellerTinker soon for a god i suposoe
@@Anten-Isy So...should we start taking bets?
All I gotta say to Atreus is to stay alert..noone knows whether Freya gets new whims of making her new son "immune to all threats physical or magical"
Even more now that she will add immunity to mistletoe
Even though they said they’re done with Norse Mythology, I am hoping Freya will be a companion of Kratos both a fighting companion and romance. Kratos did ask Feya to join him in rebuilding. Freya was a great character. So I hope she will be A reoccurring one. Along with Mimir of course. I wonder what will happen to Atreus though. I think he made Sindri his own nemesis.
They get rid of Mimir and I get rid of them
@@The-No-one they can definitely get my guys body from that magical tree now 😂😂
@@Loner_Mike98 if they get rid of his body then thats fine but I they get rid of his head and his personality and talks then I will be pissed off
@@The-No-one true I just wanna get his body back and stitch his head on with magic so we can add him as a companion
There was so much love in that hug. Love runs deeper than blood. A very beautiful moment.
Kratos still owes freya a blood payment and she can take any bodily fluid as settlement.
Y’all, we are *_NOT_* pulling an R.Kelly moment!
AYO
@@zsu-23-4shilka2 afterwards she can be like Shaggy and say it wasn't her.😂😂
freya be like “You owe me a son kratos” 😏
⭕
If there will ever be a GOW3 I would break down in tears if Atreus and Freya had a moment to talk before another end of the world battle and she said something like.
"Atreus, things have not been easy for any of us leading up to this moment, but if this is the end I just want you to know that that you are not a companion, not even a friend...,
Because Atreus... you have become my son, and as long as I live I will fight and die to protect you just like your father as always done"
It sounds cheesy I know but I really love the idea of Freya becoming a second mother to Atreus.
Gow3 came out in 2010
you meant 6?
I know I said GOW 3 I'm speaking on this being a new trilogy
This comment almost mimics the one that Nyx has with Zagreus in the game Hades, how he views her as a mother figure, and Nyx loves him like her own child. Its so touching ;(
@@WolverWayne1 There is no trilogy, odds are we will get a gow game centered on Atreus/Loki searching for the giants but it will hardly be part of the Ragnarok saga.
I relate a fair bit to Atreus in the game. The annoyance of never being believed, the lack of approval from a parent (father or otherwise), and knowing no shortage of pain in his life.
Hearing Freya tell Atreus that she was proud of the man he had become hit way too close to home for me, having never heard it from anyone before myself.
Yeah, especially cause he never got to hear that from Faye :(
To be fair he brought that upon himself. He had no reason to promise Angraboda that he would keep Ironwood a secret and lie to his father. Kratos only stops believing him because Atreus lies and won’t tell him where he’s been.
Somehow mimir taking kratos' side is kinda satisfying
9:26 man, the delivery on that line feels so real
I admit I’m a little disappointed that we didn’t get a small conversation with Sindri and Freya about the mistletoe arrow being his and that he was the one who gave it to Atreus. That would’ve been hilarious to witness with him constantly trying to apologize and her messing with him
Freya will upload a tiktok of her surprising Atreus with adoption papers
What is so frustrating about this ending, is that there is open questions still unanswered.
The mask and the green light is a clear nod to the higher existence that Athena obtained, but Kratos never makes reference of it, even though he should know there is something behind the realm tear. A god dying in sacrifice of another would infer Freyr also achieved this higher plane, given he saved everyone.
The resurrection of the giants, what came after that?
Was Baldur destined to come back from helheim like in the original story? Is he just permanently deleted? Resurrection of Baldur would be some way to square up with Freya.
The murals depicting Tyr from the first game - could they really be Kratos too, as he assumes the god of war mantle in Norse Realms?
Will kratos travel once he has rebuilt midgard ?
I think there's a good number of questions after the end credits.
Get ready for a sequel
@@sammitchellchannel8944 a sequel in 4 years would be good to answer the giant questions, but not explaining the chekovs gun on the table (the mask) is a really big no no in story telling. Odin's ENTIRE motivation was to know what was beyond the tear. And the protagonist knows something. It should have been in the game.
There's little things I would overlook, like went faye being in the light, knowing you can pull people out of light and resurrect them. Kratos looking longingly at the light... he could pull her out and give her a post ragnarok life. There's a few things that really need unpacked.
I feel like a lot of those things tie back to Atreus' overall plotline that they built up in this game. A lot of people want a sequel spin-off for Atreus, so that would be where you'd get those answers since Kratos wouldn't care about that, but Atreus is still a very curious character. He may stumble onto something in the likes of Egypt while looking for the Giants there and reveal a larger conspiracy by Athena who might have set everything up to use Odin to corrupt Atreus so that Kratos will be killed by his own son. Then they can tie Kratos and all back into it later when Atreus needs his help. The ending mural, to me anyway, suggests that Kratos will help unite not just the nine realms but different pantheons against a joint threat to all of them; Athena.
@@lilchaos9212 Feels pretty obvious they'd make a sequal with Atreus as the main character and having Kratos a side charcter or just even a cameo at this point. The game ends with Atreus taking of on his own, after all
@@lilchaos9212 whilst that could be true, and a sequel would be fun (although atreus is nowhere near as fun to play as compared to kratos and would need a full on mechanics overhaul to last a game) it doesn't remedy the fact that if you bring up something like that in the story, it should at least be commented on. For example, Mimir was with him on the boat to get the BoC in GoW so he could have asked why he said the name... then kratos could've said he saw her and she spoke of a higher form of being back in Greece. These things are necessary in my opinion to really deal with the mask issue. It's really my main gripe. Other than no punch melee build options or skill tree lol.
I'm so down for kratos to get with freya.
same
That's gonna be awkward. Just imagine people asking how they met and the mention of killing her son comes up
@@andrewbrown5181 Wouldn't be the strangest story in Norse/Greek mythology.
I feel as though it’d be one of the more tamer stories in my opinion
Well not worse than the theban king
8:37 If I saw this picture out of nowhere I would assume it’s about a father, a mother, they’re pet talking goat head and a Norwegian basketball player who is now a witch discussing with they’re son why he can’t go adventuring XD
Everybody joining in to scold Atreus was so great. These are 4 of the most powerful (or smart) people ever, and they still can't control an unruly kid that's half-giant, half-Kratos lmao
The person playing is a goat because I loved when they stopped rowing when Freya was telling kratos about how balder felt like he wasn't getting his father's approval.
“They know me as Loki.”
Freya:??🤔??
(After many days of adventures)
Kratos: good work today, Freya. I am tired.
… why is there a ⭕️ above me? This only happens when-
Freya: your boy needs a mother.
HAHAHAHAHA man this is so funny
And a couple of siblings😂😂
LOOOOOOL!
Freya: Prepare the ⭕...... but not for me!!
Kratos: :O
8:37
Its 4 parents against you Atreus, stand down
Freya and Kratos are like Two divorced parents working on their relationship
Freya: *looks at kratos* "Don't kill this one, or I swear..."
Kratos: *Critical Hit!*
Freya: "There's comfort in the family I've chosen " Right in the feels😢😢😢
Can we all agree that the chemistry between these actors is as good as the story they are part of...
Freya be like to Kratos: Your son calls me mommy now.
I love Freya’s “‘Low key’ am I supposed to give a fuck” shrug @3:30 😂
*GOD* I'm glad Freya didn't stay as an enemy. This is everything I've wanted from this
Freya, Norse goddess of harvest and fertility, merciful paragon of femininity, upon looking at the spawn of a war god, responsible for countless deaths: "mine lol"
Freya: wtf is that red circle doing above my head
She's like atreus stepmom
I mean .... that circle will still appear on Freya for Kratos, it's fine.
Well, now I guess she is, she became now.
And the other Valkyries are his step-aunts!
@@zsu-23-4shilka2 yes, you have seen how eir treated atreus.
I like how the internet all together agrees that kratos giving freya another kid is the perfect solution to "pay his debt".. for real..
The expression work when we first see Freya is astonishing, kudos to both the actor and the animators.
Let’s be honest
Freya is technically good mother .. she ain’t evil
Yes she went full “protective” in GoW 4
But makes sense … she loves her child, it would be very fuck up if she behaved like Odin who didn’t bother caring about gods dying or killing them even if they are their sons … so Freya being caring for Baldur makes sense
Also Atreus makes way better son for her.
To be fair, if I was gifted with magical abilities like her, in this day and age? Idk if I could keep myself from doing the same to my son in an attempt to keep him from harm.
8:45 mimir do be spitting the facts to Atreus
Freya: "A son for a son!"
Kratos: "Boi, spend the weekend with the dwarves. Freya will have her son, and I will give it to her."
Hahaha. That is beautiful.
And then Atreus bolts for the Valkyries because Lúnda won’t stop flirting with him
Mommy!!! 🥺🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭😭😭
Man that hug at the end almost made me bawl my eyes out.
The fact that Mimir is so embedded in the family that he is the only one who can interupt/ join Kratos and Atreus's arguement WHEN KRATOS IS ALSO VERY MAD.
It’s hilariously that Atreus just curses his father. Like father like son lol 😂
I love her face and gesture to Atreus saying he’s Loki like “buddy idk who tf that is”
Artreus: I should find my father.
Freya: He's in my tent doing circles.
Atreus: What?
Freya: What?
Freya: “What makes you think I won’t do the same?”
Atreus: “If you wanted me dead we wouldn’t be having this conversation, that and you love me so…”
This video is about Freya becoming Atreus' new mother, but I have a feeling Mimir already took that role upon him.
Atreus calls him his second father. Mimir was like the softer father figure while Kratos was the disciplinarian. In a way Mimir and Kratos raised Atreus for like 3 years.
Not the focus of the video but I love that when Atreus says the Giants called him Loki, Freya gives the same look everyone else does, “is that supposed to mean something to me? I don’t speak Giant, so unless it means Odin-killer, I don’t care.”
Freya to kratos: You took my son, so you'll give me another one 🥴
Ah yes, odin himself told boi that “ he will cloud your mind” , what a great performance
Almost like Kratos and Freya are Atreus’/Loki’s parents and they constantly argue, but want to have Atreus/Loki to themselves and raise him differently. Child custody.
Freya: do you want a brother(or sister) Atreus?
Atreus: never thought about it, why do u ask
Freya: Nothing
"THISISNOTABOUTYOURMLTHER"
Kratos quickly losing the fight as fast as he picks it.
Modi: you're gonna be my new brother
Freya: *you're gonna be my new son*
Anyone else notices "Tyr" is looking dead at you for a moment, instead of Atreus? He looks at him, taps the bowl like to get your attention, then looks at you. As if he knows you're too distracted on the drama to see he is looking like "Who's the God of mischief now? "