HKS Supercharged GR86 Review - Better Than A Turbo Kit?

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  • Опубліковано 19 гру 2024

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  • @tone3560
    @tone3560 Місяць тому +43

    RTV isnt the issue it the oil pressure drop in right hand turns...even if the main oil pick up vent is clogged it has side ports to circumvent the issue. There is no 100% determined engine failures strictly from rtv.

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste 28 днів тому +4

      VERUS oil pan has been proven to get rid of almost all of the pressure drop, even on a track

    • @tone3560
      @tone3560 28 днів тому +1

      @ send link to testing

    • @matiascampos5998
      @matiascampos5998 26 днів тому +1

      Rtv is still an obvious issue to fix…

    • @tone3560
      @tone3560 25 днів тому

      @ it’s really not. If you take it off and reseal it you may put enough that it breaks off again anyway. I’m not worrying about mine but I don’t track my brz.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr 23 дні тому +3

      they irony was they expected brake/fade to get ppl off track before they could ever be ON enough to encounter an OIL issue SMDH. Better fluid or lines and UH ohs skettios. Some classic USDM consumer grade stuff.

  • @fidelj3025
    @fidelj3025 Місяць тому +20

    I've had a sprintex supercharger then switched over to a JDL turbo kit on my old 2018 BRZ, within a year. Turbo is the way to go of efficiency over supercharger and I just ordered a JDL turbo kit on my 24 BRZ

    • @Playboyer670
      @Playboyer670 29 днів тому

      What was the difference in efficiency? Better MPG?

    • @Dholi1
      @Dholi1 23 дні тому +1

      Ur a legend. How was the turbo reliability on the 2018 BRZ?

    • @fidelj3025
      @fidelj3025 23 дні тому

      @Dholi1 reliability is all on the tuner!

    • @MichaelSikorski-d8f
      @MichaelSikorski-d8f 22 дні тому

      what's your reason for the preference of turbo? i'm leaning towards supercharger as the install seems significantly easier (no replacing headers [which i already have upgraded] or having to drop/replace the oil pan) and it seems to be, on average, cheaper than turbo kit. i do think turbo would make the car more enjoyable due to the turbo lag putting you back in your seat, but i think the added power from the supercharger would make this car more enjoyable to drive.

    • @fidelj3025
      @fidelj3025 22 дні тому

      @MichaelSikorski-d8f efficiency is why I switched over to turbo. I can switch MAPs for increase boost pressure without having to change out pulleys. I didn't have to sorry about turbo lag, just depends on the size of the turbo you get. Also supercharger (roots) are generally generates more hot air

  • @entropy11
    @entropy11 27 днів тому +7

    3:30 good news the 25 has the other kind of turn signal action so retrofits should be coming

    • @circuitdemon_
      @circuitdemon_  26 днів тому

      Thank god!

    • @keeboyyy
      @keeboyyy 23 дні тому

      Also there is a setting in the car's menus to make it act like a traditional turn signal

    • @janlorenzabellana4206
      @janlorenzabellana4206 12 днів тому

      That's good news, since I'm waiting on my 2025 86 coming this late December.

  • @artblackwood7936
    @artblackwood7936 22 дні тому +1

    I have a Sprintex on my 2022 BRZ. Perfect for daily driving IMO. I get 28mpg commuting to work, down One from pre-supercharger. I've a quite a few turbo cars and just wanted to experience a supercharger. With the supercharger, you always have more power. If you step on it, it jumps.

  • @MajorAddiction
    @MajorAddiction Місяць тому +4

    Great review and nice spec

  • @joeautube
    @joeautube 4 дні тому +1

    That rear diffuser and light combo, what is it? Take my money ...

  • @dham99
    @dham99 Місяць тому +2

    Sometimes all you need is just a little more kick coming out of a corner. Cars like this wont compete on the highway with most modern cars over 300whp+, but it'll be great around a technical track or twisties where it is probably run majority of its time on the road anyways! I think they look good and are a more modern, appealing version of a Miata. I had a 300whp 1991 miata..drastically changes the car when you put the power band that high in the RPMs and it takes away from the fun of the naturally aspirated set up it had from factory. I had a supercharged 2.0 Ecotec and my Cavalier ripped under 120mph with about 300whp, but mine was a twin screw and screamed like a banshee at WOT. Was fun, but now I have a 500whp Focus ST (2016) and its all around great, but FWD wouldnt be 'as fun' to drive as a lower powered GR86 to be honest, Id love to drive this car in this video! Both great in their own way! Plus my FoST is also Red with black theme, so i like the way this GR86 looks!

  • @ronaldsanpedro4338
    @ronaldsanpedro4338 24 дні тому +1

    Centrifugal supercharger like the HKS makes power on mid to high rpm. They need to be needs to be revved to get the most out of it. They are differents to screw type blower that feels like a bigger motor because of the added torque at low rpm.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr 23 дні тому +1

      i mean at least this engine has a better low end torque curve pre/boost. IMO it makes more sense to run this HKS on the FA24 than the 20. Plus you can also run UEL headers....but idk what combination of blower/supercharger and tune could even make the most of that setup. TBH for a street/able car id still say UEL + supercharger isnt a bad idea if youre willing to lose a lil power up top....if a street/etc cant really offer that/much rev-range etc or even certain tracks. If youre trying to hit a max/trap speed on straights...id still like the peak in low end bc the UEL and the SC pulling it into the top end. From a driving characteristic etc it would definitely drive/feel like a much different car/tune than most. But it would probably still need ideal/custom gearing to maximize the power-band of a build/tune like that. Its definitely crossed my mind. I mean compared to a roots style where heat soak can already cut off/kneecap peak power. Idk how much it would take/cost to ideally tune a fa24 with a centrifugal and UEL headers...but it sounds like a good/match.

    • @ronaldsanpedro4338
      @ronaldsanpedro4338 21 день тому

      @@anhiirr you are right. Fa24+centrifugal SC is a very good match for the gr86 power band. Because of the low-end torque. For the fa20, you might need to help it a little with either a uel or a shorter final drive. I have a gen1 BRZ manual. I just put a tune and 4.88 FD and a hks exhaust. Very satisfied by the result. Kept it NA. Very reliable car and fun setup if you don't need high top speed. It maxes out at 240 kph or 149 mph.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr 21 день тому

      @@ronaldsanpedro4338 yeah i figured the only way to finalize the top end would be a modded or different final drive but TBF im not personally willing to DROP/invest that much into a build or consider buying into it....outside of a couple years down the road when the used market is more frugal/viable or ideally finding one that was relatively babied/cared for from some mid life crisis "BUY" thats now ready to move on/uprgrade...where us/second hand buyers come into play. HELL if there was a DCT mod ATP it also makes some sense too for a FD or a custom gearing application. And DEFINITEY in regards to top/speed/track use...im 150% vested towards highly USABLE streetable power ATP

  • @patthonsirilim5739
    @patthonsirilim5739 Місяць тому +7

    supercharger are better for reponse and heat purpose.

  • @milesfathi
    @milesfathi 16 днів тому +4

    I have a supra, but I personally like the design of the GR86 more. It's one of the more complete designs out there.

    • @circuitdemon_
      @circuitdemon_  15 днів тому

      So true, the Supra is cool as far as drivetrain/performance, but we feel the style is just a touch better on the 86

  • @leom8605
    @leom8605 Місяць тому +2

    Have you tried doing 0-100 ?

  • @angelarmendariz.education
    @angelarmendariz.education 8 днів тому

    what kind bodykit is on the car interested for my own personal build

  • @enaimfuentes3478
    @enaimfuentes3478 Місяць тому +1

    Shout out Western new york 🤟 got a 10th anniversary will be turboing soon

  • @rs3tuber425
    @rs3tuber425 21 день тому

    Did you had it custom tuned? I know HKS offers a running solution in Japan but the module is like another
    $1400

  • @axelmoret7290
    @axelmoret7290 28 днів тому +2

    Bro what’s the body kit 🥵

  • @alexismerced2981
    @alexismerced2981 Місяць тому +1

    Where you found the rear bumper?

  • @beancheung5682
    @beancheung5682 27 днів тому

    what diffuser are those?

  • @ronramnarinesingh5590
    @ronramnarinesingh5590 Місяць тому

    Wheel and tire setup ??????

  • @ryanmattson1735
    @ryanmattson1735 Місяць тому +5

    Centrifugal superchargers built boost with rpm. So yeah you are leaving something on table if your not revenge it out

    • @Chilicharger665
      @Chilicharger665 Місяць тому +15

      wtf i hate when i don't revenge it out

    • @iamthelaw69
      @iamthelaw69 Місяць тому +12

      @@Chilicharger665 Wait till you get the revengeance upgrade

    • @ZenithZara97
      @ZenithZara97 Місяць тому

      What does revenge it out mean?

    • @sl0907
      @sl0907 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ZenithZara97Typo for "revving"

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr 23 дні тому

      I want to see some data on centrifugal with UEL headers. Roots already suffers from heat soak/power loss on the high end...so possibly UEL/top end trade off but a low end peak and HUGE mid range combo/tune with UEL and a CENTRIFUGAL seems like a hoot esp with a custom rear end/gearing XD. Sounds like a lot of investment to make that work...but equally huge gains with streetable torque from low end to peak/power ranges.

  • @jaron95
    @jaron95 Місяць тому

    Ok, supercharger cool, but where is that reverse lockout lever from? Is that the red Beatrush one?? lol (but srsly)

    • @bobatea8048
      @bobatea8048 Місяць тому +5

      Owner if the car here, it's the billetworkz short throw

    • @jeremyburleson6329
      @jeremyburleson6329 Місяць тому

      ​@@bobatea8048are you on any of the GR/BRZ Facebook groups? I have a pavement 2024 GR86 I'm in Colorado

    • @jaron95
      @jaron95 Місяць тому

      @@bobatea8048 Hey, thanks! Sweet 86! Been looking for a blue reverse lockout for my BRZ. Thank you.

    • @beancheung5682
      @beancheung5682 27 днів тому

      @@bobatea8048 hey, which diffuser are you using? its sick!

    • @wza223-fo3mc
      @wza223-fo3mc 3 дні тому

      @@bobatea8048 whats the hp numbers on this?

  • @ashishkushwaha1167
    @ashishkushwaha1167 Місяць тому

    What rear bumper is this?

    • @bobatea8048
      @bobatea8048 Місяць тому

      It's the robot craftsman narrowbody rear bumper

  • @toothinm9paste
    @toothinm9paste Місяць тому +1

    You don't see any new cars in western NY.

  •  7 днів тому

    what's the dyno numbers? what's the SC add? becuse it looks slow
    ?

  • @bruceandt
    @bruceandt 24 дні тому

    Why aren’t there more builders putting the intended supercharger into this car.

    • @navawtff
      @navawtff День тому

      Cuz the shits like $6,000 and I have a gr86 lmao

  • @madthough2298
    @madthough2298 19 днів тому

    Those are Konig countergram not hypergram

  • @ck17350
    @ck17350 23 дні тому

    Some numbers... any numbers would have been great.

  • @bessick100
    @bessick100 24 дні тому

    No supercharger sound's

  • @foxxrider250r
    @foxxrider250r Місяць тому +3

    Dont these new ones blow up like super often?

    • @Al4108
      @Al4108 Місяць тому +10

      Nah, people blow it out of proportion. It’s more reliable than the previous generation. But do keep in mind it is still a Subaru motor with high compression. General consensus rn is that you don’t want to go past 500hp on these things, that’s when they start blowing up

    • @fengrr
      @fengrr Місяць тому +8

      All subaru owners have engine budget set aside of course. For STI owners, you have an account in your bank labeled "short block" ...

    • @foxxrider250r
      @foxxrider250r Місяць тому

      @@fengrr Lol, nice. I am not about that life

    • @foxxrider250r
      @foxxrider250r Місяць тому

      @@Al4108 Good to know, just curious. These new ones are far better than the old ones IMO.

    • @Al4108
      @Al4108 Місяць тому +1

      @@foxxrider250r Oh ya for sure. They're way quicker and could produce way more power reliably

  • @timwattison4419
    @timwattison4419 5 днів тому

    Watch out, i think Toyota are going to fit the 3 cylinder 1.6 turbo to this car very soon. 300bhp,, 4 wheel drive. Will be interesting 😊

    • @wza223-fo3mc
      @wza223-fo3mc 3 дні тому

      think is a ticking time bomb fa24 way better motor

    • @jonscott5317
      @jonscott5317 2 дні тому

      That's never going to happen as long as the Supra exists.