I proved Infant Annihilator FAKED their Drums using a Whiteboard
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In This Video, We use SCIENCE and BIOLOGY to explain my stance on Why I Think Aaron Kitcher Faked his Playthrough of one of the Biggest Drum Playthrough Videos on the Internet. Not only was there a lack of Microphones or Triggers, but Things Scientifically didn't Line up, And in This Video we will explain EXACTLY how we got there
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They hated him for speaking the truth. The truth hurts.
The truth is this song isn't even that hard. Homeboy is just jelly.
If you think that fake watch this video
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That's the whole reason they don't play live, they can't. And they're not saying they can
This is pointless. This is exactly why they don’t tour. Aaron did play a lot of earlier songs but the later stuff was programmed. They’re not hiding that fact or trying to deny it. This is actually well known.
why are you still whining about IA just move on mate 💀
Next he's gonna cry saying he discovered a huge thing, travis scott uses autotune😱😱
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Oh my goodness a modern metal drummer programming drums 🤯😱
Next video explaining why the earth is round please !
That's not hard to explain. Go out on the ocean
Just for shits and giggles what does going out to ocean prove? For what it’s worth Neil Tyson said bumgardber (Red Bull space jump guy) would not be able to see the curve from 120k feet up
If you used a trigger on a kick to play a sample of the real drum at say doublets or triplets, would that be fake metal or more real EDM?
Personally I would say It's fake Metal, simply because he's not actually playing what we are hearing, but to some it doesn't matter
regarding the part at 18:00 he does play it with heel-toe technique right? I though he plays sets of two 16th notes with each foot and alternates so that it forms the consistent 16th note pattern. Not that it makes the 64th notes in the breakdown any less believable but still, the other tempo seems realistic for a lot of newschool death metal drummers
Love this video by the way!
So with double strokes you could more than likely achieve it with plenty of practice. In the video however, his leg motion does not match that of double strokes, it matches that of regular ankle motion single strokes. There are other videos where he plays using heel-toe, but there isn't that many videos of him doing so
Aaron already said it was played on an electric kit, why are you still on this? lmao
Oof we struck a Nerve on this guy. Buddy I think you are in denial. People lie all the time. Lucas Mann said everything in Rings of Saturn was recorded live as you hear it on the record, meanwhile former members say it was recorded at half-speed then sped up later. Another fun fact: Aaron Kitcher was hired to Program the drums on Lugal Ki En, according to Aaron Stechaner (former drummer for Rings of Saturn and The Faceless), based on his previous work programming drums in Infant Annihilator. There's several interviews with Stechaner about that if you wanna do actual research instead of regurgitating
You gotta check out riccardo merlini. he played IA without triggers on an acoustic kit.
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I am aware of Ricardo Merlini. He is something else. But even with Ricardo, he has absolutely no Power, it's all triggers on Max sensitivity and it's not always the cleanest
@@komradenikolai No, he doesnt play with triggers. He uploaded the raw audio on his channel. You can check it out in the shorts section, pretty recent upload. But you can see, even he with his technique gets to a close on that song.
😂😂😂 if you Seriously think Ricardo doesn't play with triggers you are delusional. No other way to say it.
@@komradenikolai Go to a workshop of his.
Faking footage is so common on social media these days I wonder what happens to the kids growing up believing. Will the learn to be inhumanly fast ? Will the destroy themselves attempting to replicate the impossible ? Either way thanks for speaking the truth
Check out No Mercy by Within Destruction. Wayyy faster double bass in the final breakdown than anything in IA. Sick band though but yeah same thing when it comes to drum programming and using triggers live. I saw a video where the ghost notes during a live set were max velocity because of the triggers.
Way faster ? Really ?
@@damianridgeway7231 Yeah did check it out. No Mercy by Within Destruction at exactly 2:00 into the song. It literally sounds like a consecutive note because of how fast it is. It was so fast I didn’t even think it was drumming but I purchased the stems and Midi from the band and confirmed it. They are 24th notes at 360 bpm. So basically triplets at 360 should be 16th notes at 540 bpm, which is faster than IA.
@@hervengeanceofficial Do you know the new Drummer from Rings of Saturn? Luca from Within Destruction is good with heel toe, but RYAN SINNOTT is a level above. Play a song like THEOGONY on real drums... I don't know how fast the double bass is in this song, but it sounds pretty darn fast. C Crusher is a joke against that.
Or Slave Of The Art by Henker, entire album is basically death-speedcore.
He could pull it off of the company Dualist made a quad pedal or he had one Dualist for each head
I actually play Quad Bass using Duallist. You could definately pull that off using those pedals and a lot of practice
@@komradenikolaiyeah estepario did it lmao
I fully appreciate this breakdown as there are some fakes out there that make no sense. I totally respect this as I've played prog for 4 decades!
Now that's what I call educational content
yall dont understand that IA is a troll band
The background music is kinda loud
Yeah some folks have been saying that. I thought i turned it down enough but I guess it wasn't
@@komradenikolai you can also try EQuing your voice frequencies out of the background music. Nice video btw. Keep up the good work. And GL with the channel :)
Triggers plus 2 of those double-single pedals.
I actually have 2 of the Duallist D4s, you could pull that off with some practice
@komradenikolai yeah I only said it because estepario had a youtube short doing that.. technology!
U only ever look at 1 source while you could look an dlisten to the live versions lol 😂
The live version have been discussed in previous videos. I'm not dissecting a video where his kit is falling apart and he constantly falls off tempo and stops playing to get back in time. We focused on the Original Playthrouhh because enough people kept saying it was Real when in Reality it isn't and they needed a reality check
I thought everyone knew that already
why can't we just enjoy the gnarly tunes my dudes
I never said you couldn't enjoy them
All you do is whine about aaron, why can't you let it go and just accept he uses triggers (and sometimes drum programs). Just enjoy the music@@komradenikolai
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You didn't prove anything.
Ahh but we did. Using Logic and Science
Haha Preach that Eugene Ryabchenko ...
If it wasn't for Eugene I wouldn't be where I'm at today. He was my instructor for a little while
You've obviously never been to Hull, people are just built different in Hull
Gasp the deathcore band that used triggers was proven to use triggers 😂😂😂. No one cares
Ey yeah, I picked up the Drums again
I will show you, that I can play even faster, than 16th, ill go 500 bpm.
Greetings.
Aaron Kitcher
(I will recomment on this video, to show you proof with link)
As a 8 string guitarist. I don’t why tf I’m here.
I mean Cred to you for having bigger hands than most
Its been prooved as faked before by other drummers, slowing down the video, also the band to their credit have said themselves that they embelish there songs by using programmed drums and speeding up tracks. I meen is it any surprise that after there album releases and all the years they have been a band they have never played even a single live show to promote there music?. They cant play these songs live, the aim of them is just to be ridiculously over the top, some people may like that.. thats there choice, personally i dont vibe with it its too much, all that peadophilia stuff just for shock value just doesnt vibe with me, also i like to know a band can actually play there music (not saying there bad musicians because there clearly not) but the studio embelishments push it too far
Does anyone appreciate your opinion?
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fastest section i found in cuntcrusher is made of 220bpm 24th (330bpm 16th) notes, not sure how you came to get 472bpm
There is no such thing as 24th notes. What I think You mean is 8th note triplets. The breakdown number is 118 BPM using 64th notes. To break it down into easier to grasp tempos, it is the same as saying 472 BPM using 16th notes.
@komradenikolai
sure thing buddy. 8 × 3 = 24, so 24th notes are clearly a thing and you just didn't do your homework.
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@@Solemn926 tell us more about these "24th notes."
@@stemcellphone
Well given the name, they're the notes that come after the 23rd notes and before the 25th notes. A basic education should help you deduce that much.
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@@Solemn926
Actually, you can fit infinite number of 23,999999999999th notes before 24, and infinite number of 25,9999638876th notes after 24th notes. Don't tell me a dog ate your homework, just do it and learn math.
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Singers use autotune. Some use ghost writers. DJ Khaled isn't a real DJ. Listeners aren't going to stop supporting them because they use common music production techniques... even if they lie about it... because it doesn't matter. What matters is the final track. They compose some of the greatest pieces of music out there, despite their edgy schtick. Even among almost all other programmed bands
No one said you have to Stop supporting Aaron Kitcher because the drums are programmed. No, in fact, you can listen to whatever you like. What the issue has been is the Fanboys who think he can do no wrong. They needed a reality check.
So, go react to Black Tongue. That's the band he actually plays live with. Everyone knows IA is a meme band, and has outed a lot of their music as impossible to play by themselves, in the scene. It's not worth harping on a song from like ten years ago. Especially when Aaron Kitcher has another band that you can see him play real ass drums in.
A lot of people in the comments dont get that the drummer edited their video to “show” that he can play it, instead of what was made in studio
emm it's not for nothing but at the end of the C***crusher Drum playthrough video you can see the "behind the scenes" and Aaron does play the song, tho they still put the audio of the official song on top and they make fun of it, Infant Annihilator is a band that likes to be troll, they don't care if they don't really play the instruments XD what matters is that they release music that we can enjoy😅
I searched it and I found a live video of him actually playing the song untriggered. It's literally the first video when you search Aaron Kitcher live lol.
Edit: wait it's the video you're talking about. You're dogging him for actually playing the song? The set doesn't fall apart, the one tom falls off. You make it sound like he stops playing and makes it obvious he was faking.
Yall are insane lol.
Nothing enjoyable about that bullshit . Get a life
@@Khaynizzle7I don't care if he's not really playing the drums or if he actually does... I love their music, which in the end is what matters.
and the video I'm talking about is the Drum Playthrough... the one where everyone reacts haha not the Live one
Here the thing, look up Aaron Kitchen playing live. There is a LIVE video where he plays the drums in a tent. The problem is, his kit falls apart, and the audio continues even though the drum was laying on the ground. I can't post links on a comment, but look it up. Nikolai is not wrong or crying. He's pointing out facts.
Facts hurt when it's your drum hero, that's why theres so much hate. Appreciate the comment my guy, positivity is rare nowadays
Infact Annihilator have never played even a single live show to promote there music, why do you think that is??
As a musician and science nerd, I LOVE THIS STUFF!!!
I enjoy it too! I'll make more of these videos if it seems y'all enjoy them
Listen to 復讐 ノ祝詞 by gotsu totsu kotsu
my only negative about this video is the music you put on in background. it feels so loud compared to what you have to say!
Dudes a producer by the way
Annihilating Annihilator,yeah,drum programming is rampant,there's two ways at looking at it,yeah it's fake or it's just creativity,either way,it's each to their own,rock on,be safe n wise,peace.
If someone was playing a drum that played a triplet sample of a real drum at an EDM show, you'd praise them for actually playing an instrument instead of DJing a laptop. In metal, a sample is sacrilege to some, but then maybe they think a hard clipping distortion pedal is sacrilege because it isn't a tube being overdriven.
Why everyone like living in their echo chamber? Can people not have varying opinions? This guy wanted to prove something. He did. If you dont like that he did, idk go read a book. He's entitled even if you dont agree with him.
People have very narrow perceptions and only watch videos that coincide with their bias.
Personally I like when people do stuff like this. Keep on doing what you want bro. People gonna watch, if they hate, let em or dont, up to you.
You make a video about a Video that is 10 years old or something and about Songs that are so old and There is no reason to talk about it
Has he come out and said he plays everything note for note? Hes been exposed Live all over UA-cam for the last 5+ years by many people. He’s also said he programmed all the drums no? Maybe that was only on Yaldabaoth. But let’s be honest… we all know those doubles are fake. The band was literally made for the luls. This is dorky
Great video dude! You’ve come so far from your earliest vids I’m proud of you
I'm not going to watch the video, all I'm going to comment is: Who cares?
So, nice video, but next time, could you skip trying to talk over a piano? I kept trying to turn it off...
I edit drums. It's not that hard.
Almost nobody uses real drums in the studio anylonger. Its all done in a computer
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Sadly truer than it should be . But most are at least attempting to program playable drums . And then perform said playable drums in a live real life setting . Real drums are better , but recording them right is expensive.
@@damianridgeway7231 oh, i know. Recorded 2 cds with my band. $$$$$
Wow you exposed a band thats already exposed themselves, congratulations have a smoke champ
I will guaranteed have a Cigar tonight to celebrate myself thank you very much :)
this is what happens when a “staunch christian” tries to do science
Francis Collins, George Washington Carver, Sir Isaac Newton, Sir Francis Boyle, Galileo, Louis Pasteur, all Famous scientists who changed life for us all as we know it, and all of then Christians.
@@komradenikolai yes, back when you weren’t allowed to be anything but a christian
Great video... thanks for the truth about the garabage band.
I won't say they are garbage but I appreciate the support
@komradenikolai maybe it is because I didn't look past the fist 👊 f**n an infant in the lyrics and went into immediate bad reaction/judgment mode... lol
I see you have a background in medical science, and I was able to follow your reasoning with my similar education. However, I think the medical background you have is not completely adequate to understand the mechanics here. This is not a "hate comment" and I don't even know what band or song you are talking about. Based on the samples of the high BPM drum loops you played, depending on how it sounded and how it was played, chances are it was NOT done live without any manipulation. If your approximation of the drumming was accurate, I believe you are probably right, and that the drummer pretended to play what was actually computer generated,
What you are wrong about is your discussion of the mechanics and "proof". I am a personal trainer with certifications in biology, sports science, and more. There is definitely a common trend in loosely-linked field (like chemistry/physics, biology/medicine, electrician/engineering, etc) that certain concepts may overlap however in one field the explanations taught are generalized, shallow, or even incorrect just for simplicity's sake, while the other field is more knowledgeable about the mechanics and science. With a background in medical biology, you are likely to have a more nuanced understanding of muscle injuries and the mechanics of them, whereas in sports sciences it's more generalized for practical purposes.
However, I'm not sure if this is even the case with your graph, as it seems like such a grossly simplified concept that I can't imagine it being taught in biology classes. This link between sped and power does not exist as you describe it. In fact, when it comes to muscle movement, speed and power are more positively correlated than inversely correlated like you describe. This is especially true at the extremes. Very low power muscle movement is generally slowed down while high power movement speeds up. It is the polar opposite of what you claim. This is even true with repetitive movements in rapid succession. It makes me think that you made up this "inverse correlation graph" and just thought it made sense, so you presented it as fact. It's completely wrong. If this is something that was taught to you, I can't imagine what practical purpose it would serve.
Now I still understand the thought process behind it. When it comes to drumming specifically, you likely need a certain distance from stick/kick to drum surface in order to have enough space to accelerate to a speed which is hard enough to create a sufficiently loud enough sound, and generally speaking the larger the space, the more potential power. This extra space between strikes multiplies each hit and accumulates over time, thus potentially decreasing the speed overall. This is a VERY simplified way to look at it, but maybe there is something there that you could expand on. I tend to believe you are correct that the drums are electronically created or manipulated, but your graph about speed and power is complete nonsense. There must be a better way to make your point besides pseudoscience.
Omg another drama, who gives a damn...
We don't care. There is recognition in composing. Can Mozzart play live all the instruments for which he wrote music? Does that make him less of a musician or composer?
At the very Least, the parts Motzart composed are humanly possible to play. The problem we have is Some people with Room Temp IQs think it is real and we have to Educate them properly since they failed Basic Biology
@@komradenikolai First off, get off your fucking high horse. "Some people with room temp IQ." Mate, as we've already established, nobody cares. You are not the first one to call out it being fake. You won't be the last either. It's not like Aaron Kitcher won awards that he didn't deserve. He hasn't made any drum videos for over 10 years at least as far as I know. The last time we even saw him was in their music video from their latest album and that's it. He wasn't even playing drums in it and just danced around on the beach with the band and got puked on. The man just lives his life not giving a fuck. He doesn't seek the recognition for anything. He just dropped an album and fell off the face of the earth. The only person from their band who is sort of active is their vocalist who made a collab with Nik Nocturnal a while back.
Who is this "we" you refer to? Real musicians care about this stuff bud
OOOOO someone got hurt by that statement. Does someone's IQ fall into that category? Are we mad? 🥺🥺🥺
Actually Mozart DID play everything he wrote that why he could write it. Learn history.
Next he's gunna tell us that Spencer from Periphery uses pitch correction.
Also Aaron doesn't fake it. Just search him playing live. With the tiniest bit of research and the removal of your tin foil hat you'd notice this lol. First video I looked up shows him clearly playing the song.
His live footage y'all keep heralding is evident of my findings. He cannot play to the same degree as what was shown in the original playthrough, and it was sloppy. Not to mention the bass drums were a track he mimed along to live, a feat happening all the more nowadays.
@@komradenikolai You glossed over the pitch correction point as if that is somehow different than faking a drum part.
Because it's not prevalent to the convo, and a bad comparison. You may not know this, but a majority of your favorite singers do use pitch correction in studio to touch up performances for an album, that's a very common occurence whether they inform you on it or pretend not to know what you're talking about. What we are talking about in this channel is mainly Drums, because that's where my Forte is as a musician.
Spencer doesn't use pitch correction, but he does comp multiple takes therefor essentially doing an analog version of pitch correction as its not 1 live take : ) good job thinking you're smart and also bringing in up in your response while YOU "glossed over" the response from OP.
@@komradenikolai You're missing the point. People don't care about autotune or pitch correction similarly in the way people don't care about triggers or faked parts or whatever else.
I remember when they dropped that album. As high schoolers we recognized that shit was impossible. Didn't change a thing about how dope the album is or how talented Aaron is. The Palpable Leprosy of Pollution was for fun. Tell me where these faked parts exist on The Elysian Grandeval Galeriarch or newer albums where they got more serious.
Bottom line is you don't have to like it, but you aren't on to something that mostly everyone doesn't already understand.
Move on..
just listen to the music dude
who cares
Wow this guy as earned my respect great video man
bruh delted my comment already omg.. dood. i took lessons from the world's fastest feet, i know wtf i'm saying. 260bpm single strokes are totally do able. common dude and how you post a video next about alex terrible and some loser who wants to fight him maybe.. you make lame drama content.. where are your drum playthroughs?
I never deleted your comment. I don't delete any comments on my channel. We never said 260 BPM single strokes were impossible. I even said in the video 270 BPM single strokes are achievable. What isn't is hitting 472 BPM 16th notes. That's absurd, and goes against Biology. Pay attention to what I actually said next time.
@@komradenikolai there is no 472bpm going on in any of their songs, you sound a bit bonkers to me honestly going over muscle theory and stuff lolololol look at Bryce of Shadow, he's a twig. same with Mike Maillet , fastest feet on earth. they are both tall skinny guys. it is all about technique to play fast. 300 bpm single stokes are actually achievable for some ppl. do a video on lorna shore. they play at 280 all the time. Also where are your drum videos? maybe youre songs are all drum software, often it's ppl projecting who act like this online.
Have you seen the Soil the Still born cover from BELDUN? The guy plays the full song with singel strokes (320,330 BPM?). Lord marco has played 340 with singles in his Lightspeed cover. The new Drummer from Rings of Saturn? This shit is impressive. There are a lot of drummers who play faster than Kitcher.
Who really cares, seems like a waste of time and effort...
tldr @ everyone defending IA: Tell me you've never played drums before without telling me you've never played drums before
drums sound different depending on how hard you hit them. literally no drummer can do blasts at full velocity with no tonal change between different speeds
And that's not even mentioning that historically "playthrough" 99.9% of the time refers to someone playing the song WITHOUT AUDIO of their current performance, they are simply adding a visual to the audio. Oh yeah, by the way, I just downloaded the playthrough and the original track and when you flip the phase they cancel each other hehe so yeah thats just the studio version of the song. No differences whatsoever in any drum hit. Don't forget they said their kicks arent fucking triggered hahahahahaha
Can you pls stop crying? In Jesus name Im asking you🙏
Yet you're doing just that 😭 like bro just don't watch it's that simple
Cope harder lol