🎸How To Intonate An Electric Guitar
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2022
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Hey Rob. Do you have an answer for this. ?
This process won't work while using a BASS TUNER APP versus a tuner that you plug from guitar to tuner OR should it matter? That's what I use A TUNER APP that I think works great for me.
But I can't get a reading off any of the strings from the 12th fret pluck like in your video. But no big deal because I tinkered with it for a hr or more and it sounds better , plays better and smoother, and my pickup switch is working correctly again
Hey man- I would assume it would work with a bass tuner, especially on a bass, but I can't be sure without seeing it myself. And that's weird that you can't get a reading on the 12th fret. The higher the pitch, the more a tuner usually likes a note!
@@RobArnoldWorld one more question. No rush ...but dam I need an answer.
1) have you ever seen a guitar rewired with a thicker gauge wire than stock make a difference on the overall sound and tone?
@@jasonbryant.bassguitarplay3641 Nope!
Well Brother. ...I'm gonna take you for a lil more than this Faceb value, and say THANKS for replying first. And I believe you.
Most said naaa but IDK ..
YOU WAS " NOPE!". 1 NOPE beats 2 IDKs.
Personally Idk. I had a fella wanting to hustle me I think.
Finally! A source/video on intonation that actually made setting intonation easy to understand! I've done all work on my guitars, but properly setting intonation has always escaped me!
This video went real step by step and made it all clear. Great job Rob! Thanks so much for tackling this subject, and making this process clear. You have a fan for life here!!
Awesome Joe! Happy to hear it, and happy to help! 🎸
this was the best most straight forward tutorial on how to do this! so many other videos either do it wrong or over explain the process. thanks for this!!
Hey thanks! Happy to hear that!🎸
Rob you never disappoint. They are a bunch of videos with this topic and many other guitar topics and all the other videos just don't cut it for me. With robs videos its a whole different ball game. Every thing he teaches and shows i always understand it better then the other videos. He alway gives the best info and will explain it to were you can understand it all. I've watched many other UA-cam videos and alot of them just don't do it for me and I lose my attention fast. Not with robs videos I soak it all the info up and re-watch many of robs older videos and always learn something new from then. Thanks for being there for your fans rob.
Stuff like that makes it all worth it bro! 👊
This is perfect!! Thanks Rob! Love your videos. Especially gear and guitar reviews. This is very helpful.
I went to your website and ordered a mug 😃
Cheers mate!
Haha awesome Todd! I appreciate that bro!☕️🤘
Best video I've come across on setting up intonation on my guitar!
Great man! Happy to hear it!🎸
Thank you very Much Rob your videos are very helpful! Setting up my guitar has always seemed like a very daunting task but you explained it and demonstrated it in a way that made it easier to understand 😀
Glad to hear it Andrew!🎸
Very well explained, on point!Thanks Rob!
Hey cheers!🎸
I was never really sure what intonation meant, but this video is so well explained, now I understand!!! thanxxx Rob!!!
Glad to hear it bro!
Love this kind of video! Would like to see a series(?) Of this home made adjustments. Thanks Rob!
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Great videos, as always! Got new strings (trying 10-52 for the first time), adjusted FR bridge, truss rod and intonation following your tutorials. Have to say this Schecter has never felt so good. Thank you Rob! lml
Happy to hear that man! 🎸 Thanks for tuning in, and glad to have helped!
Thank you for the vid I got my 9th guitar a few days ago its the first 1 I've bought new and needs set up wich I didn't evan think about i learned how to adjust trust rod from another vid and now after watching this I'm away to do the intonation I'll remember it for life from that simple trick of chasing the needle much appreciated
Right on and congrats on that new axe! 🎸
This is SO helpful. Thanks a lot
I’m just getting into guitar playing thank you for this! And I always loved ESP/LTD guitars.
Good luck on your journey!🎸
Thanks for a descriptive video on setting intonation!!!
My pleasure!
I'm so glad I stumbled across this video this video and the adjusting the truss rod really helped me I'm a complete amateur when it comes to truss rod adjusting and moving the saddles but after watching you I felt like a semi pro thanks for sharing your knowledge
Happy to hear the videos helped!🎸
I think you're a really cool humble person for posting videos to help other guitar players out and responding to peoples comments most big time bands the band members wouldn't do what you're doing not knocking them or anything I'm sure they probably are busy but some get the big head and think they're to cool for school. Also wanna add first time o heard empire back in day I was hooked on Chimaira
@@wesleybartlett9618 👊
Thank you for this!
Thank you rob ❤
This video help a lot
Happy to hear it!
I’m a drummer and still found this super interesting. Thanks man!!!
Awesome!🤘🥁
Alot of videos on youtube don't actually show how to intonate bridges but yours was informative,my guitar has the les paul type bridge,simple and super easy,love that natural curve
The good ol' Tune-o-matic bridge. 😎
@@nckhed yup
Glad to hear it bro!🎸
Great video dude! Fun to watch! So many people don't know this. I remember back in the day so many players would complain that their Floyd goes out of tune after dive bombing. This is why. I could be a maniac with the bar and my guitars never go out of tune.
This was kinda ironic to catch this...seeing how a couple of my guitars need to have this done. Great, informative lesson. Thank you for videoing this and giving us a close up of how you perform the intonation process. Cheers!
Glad to hear it Jason, and that the timing was right! Best of luck and thanks for tuning in!🎸
I’ve never done this but want to try it, you make it seem pretty easy good video man🤘🏻☺️👊🏼
Right on bro!🎸
Great video as always!! Thanks Rob!
Hey Cheers Tony!
Thanks for this, Rob. I have a Schecter with a Hipshot bridge like your guitar here and don't know how to adjust intonation or action for that matter. However, in my defense, I'm mainly a drummer and just play guitar a little on the side but this is information I need to know so I don't have to keep paying someone else to do it for me. Thanks for the all the awesome content!🤘🤘
Hey I hope it helps and thanks for tuning in!🥁🤘
You Sir, help me improve my playing everyday! Thanks for that!
Regards from 🇩🇰
I love to hear that!🤘🎸
Rob, you’re seriously such a good teacher man. Really appreciate these vids. Would you be willing to show us string height adjustment, tuning and intonation on an evertune bridge? All of my fiddles are equipped with evertune now. You’ve actually inspired me to start setting up my own guitars rather then pay someone else how to do it. I feel like I have an ok grip on setting up evertunes now but I’d love to see how you do it man!! Have an awesome day! 😊🤘
Hey man I really appreciate that! I have TWO new Evertune tutorials on the way!🎸🎸 Stay tuned!
@@RobArnoldWorld awesome! Look forward to it bro!
This was fantastic. Thank you.
Hey thanks for tuning in!🎸
Great video! Flat Forward, Sharp Back is what I use to remember which way to move the saddle.
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Aaah this is going to save me alot of money, thanks Rob!
Hey my pleasure!
That guitar is so beautiful
Holy crap, Rob! I was a huge fan of Chimaira when I was a teenager and then you guys just disappeared. I randomly saw your name pop up on this video and I was like "wait a minute, I know this dude!". This is invaluable information and you made it super super easy to understand. I'm gonna try this on one of my beater guitars. Cheers dude!
Awesome man! Happy to hear you dug the video! Please head down the rabbit hole and explore more of my channel! Tons of Chimaira stuff... loads of guitar maintenance videos, and more!🤘
These videos are so good, Rob
Thank you dude! 🙏 Happy to help all in need!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld cheers Rob
Dude im 30 years in the game and STILL take my flippin guitars in😂🤓. I just Cant set action and intonation Rob! I envy guys like you that have the skill
Hey I understand! I like mechanical stuff, but I still take my cars into the repair shop!
And another thing is that if you have a good tech working on your stuff, no reason to not continue that way!
Bro. Thanks a million. 🎸
My pleasure! 🎸
This is now my new standard for a Intonation how to video I'll share with friends and community members.
Thrilled to hear that man! Thanks for all!🎸
concept clear , thanks dear
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Great video man!!!
Thanks dude! 🎸
Thanks man!
Thanks, this is a great explanation.
Awesome!
Position also affects string rotation/orbit. Having it in playing position is ideal.
Outstanding video!!!
Thanks man, happy to help!🎸
5:38 a note is a certain frequency, so the string produces that frequency. Lower frequencies equal longer wavelengths and vice versa. That's why a low pitch instrument, like a bass, has a longer scale length (obviously string tension is also a factor). But that basically means, if it is sharp, you have to elongate the measure and if it's flat you have to shorten the measure (basically "stretching" and "squeezing" the wave). :)
This is the best video out there!
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Thanks dude!
Happy to help!🎸
One thing I always do when doing a setup is I always tune up to the note when tuning. I never tune down to pitch ,I've found that doing that can give you a false tune . Just what I do. Great vid as always brother 👍
I do the same!🎸
Awesome! Thank you!
My pleasure!
I'm a drummer. And I found this very informative. My 10 yr old son plays guitar. Defiantly going to show him this. Wish my guitar players back in the day did this. Thanks for the info rob!
Right on Anthony! Tell your boy to tear it up!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld he's been listening to pass out impossibly and resurrection. He loves the song Six. And he likes dehumanizing process cause he saw videos of my old band covering that song.
@@BeardedFordTech Nice!
Very insightful thnx
This is an awesome video I just can't do this to my ibanez
Low E clean finger on sounds D
THANK YOU...
THANK YOU......
THANKS YOU!!!!!
I cannot say or give enough thanks to all yall guys that give perfect information to dedicated players that can't learn enough.
I'll say this tho MY WASHBURN BASS wasn't very far off. And I set my action up after I learned how OFF A VIDEO SIMILAR a couple years ago..( before I would let a local SEASONED ) work on my stuff.
I would like some wiring info for an ACTIVE EMG setup. I have an late 80s or early 90s WASHBURN ABT with a 9v pot in the body.
Very good video! I've been intonating my guitars on my own for ages, but I always forget which way to adjust the saddles. That "chase the needle" hint will stick, seriously good advice.
Regarding the lower strings, have you considered tuning by harmonic overtones? You can strike the 5th, 7th and/or 9th fret harmonic and tune that, then strike the octave at 17th, 19th and/or 21st fret and see how well they are in tune. I find those much more consistent than the loose and wobbly open low strings.
Great to hear man! Even though I've done this a ton of times now, I too still have to think about which way to move the saddles, and as you said, the chase the needle hint helps every time! And yes, I'll often take a look at various harmonic overtones as well, and I like to try and take the average between the open, the fretted 12th, and the natural harmonics!
Thanks!
Hey thanks a lot brother! 👊 I appreciate your support and I'm happy to have helped! 🎸
Thank you so much! I just finished setting up my Tele using your method here. I even used the app of the tuner you used. (Yes, I know the app probably isn't as accurate as the real thing, but it's what I have.)
Setting the intonation was a bit of a pain in the ass cuz it's my first time & the heavier strings are harder to set, just like you said, but I FINALLY got green lights for both the open string and the fretted 12th fret on all 6 strings, so that's good enough for me!
Definitely gonna subscribe to your channel! My dream is to someday build & set up my own guitar from scratch using Warmoth parts & now I am this much closer to that goal. 👌
Awesome dude! Happy to hear that! Follow your dream and good luck!🎸
You should do a video about how to get rid of dead notes and set action on a tune o matic and hard tail
Great Video! Thanks
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One thing I’ve noticed when doing set ups, if you roll your tone knob down, and use the neck pup. You’ll get more accurate reading on the tuner. I mean I use a Peterson strobe tuner for my set ups, just cause how accurate they are, and with me using 7 strings and low tunings it really helps with the wound strings. Another thing that helps is backing the pick ups down a bit. It helps with not getting those blips you mentioned. Killer vid bro
Thanks Eric, and those are all great tips you mentioned!
I've heard of rolling the tone knob down, but not using the neck pickup when tuning. I'll have to try that out.
@@nckhed ya man it works great!! You’ll notice the needle won’t spike as much. It gives you a more consistent tuning
Great video!
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After spending $$$ over the years, I decided to learn how to do it myself. Thank you for this well explain how to without over talking. Straight to the point just how I like it. Do yoh have a video on settings floyd Rose?
Hey thanks man! Yes! Here are a couple videos on Floyds you can check out!
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ua-cam.com/video/mt7qxvPL4uI/v-deo.html
Great video Rob!!! I have a newer guitar that I need to do this to! Thanks!!! I’m seriously thinking about picking up that guitar too!!! Love it!!!
Excellent man! Let me know if you pull the trigger!
No pressure, but if you're in the States and could use my link, I'd appreciate it!
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@@RobArnoldWorld thanks man! I sure would, but I don’t qualify for Sweetwaters payment plan, I usually go through AMS, cause I can stretch the payments out to 12 months! They like me there, I’ve bought so much stuff from them in the past few years, I’m talking thousands of $, there plan helped me out a lot to obtain the gear of my dreams!!! I’ve become a huge fan of Chimaira over the past few years also, you guys shred and kick ass!!!
@@REDDRAGON666ful Awesome bro!🤘
@@RobArnoldWorld Hi Rob! I just ordered this kickass guitar from AMS! They had a “minor blemished” one in stock, got it for $200 cheaper than new, so I really can’t complain! So I have to wait till Wednesday to get it and see if I can find the blemish! Man I can’t wait to get it!!! Keep up the great work man!!!!
@@REDDRAGON666ful Nice! Let us know!
Thank you,
Learned a tuning trick the other day on UA-cam,
When you're trying to perfectly tune when intonating for instance,
Switch to the neck pickup and lower the tone knob on the guitar just about 10%
Somehow this gives a much better reading on digital tuners, as if there's less "noise" interfering the signal of the pickup or something like that.
Oh and thanks for the video! helped me a LOT.
Interesting! We'll have to give that a try! And I'm happy to hear you found the video helpful!🎸
This is by far the easiest to follow video on this on all of youtube. I've watched TONS of them. l always doubt myself so I constantly refresh my memory (years of weed will do that kids, stay away till you're an adult)
Hell yeah! Super happy to hear that man! Thanks for tuning in! 🎸
Thanks for the great video. What is your recommendation on intonation on guitar tuned a half step down?
Sure thing! I'd say no matter what you're tuned to, it's always a good idea to check your intonation every once and while, like maybe 2-3 times per year, or certainly whenever you're hearing pitch discrepancies from octaves. For instance, if you pick the 5th fret on your low E (6th) string, you should get the same reading on your tuner when you pluck the 17th fret on the same string, which is a whole octave higher. If they don't register the same on the tuner, then an adjustment to that strings intonation is probably necessary. But I recommend using the open and 12th fret octaves like I demonstrate in the video, when you go to make your adjustments.
subscribed! And GOD I want this guitar.... just not sure I can afford anything at the moment. That finish, M shape, fishmans, cmon.. it drives me absolutely crazy!
Welcome aboard!👊 And yep, she's a beauty for sure!🎸
when lowering the pitch, you should pass the middle a little, and then give it a tiny tug. then tune it UP to pitch. it will help since theres no locking nut ;)
Would love to see you set up an evertune! I’ve pre ordered an esp ltd h1000 that’s got an evertune. Never owned an evertune guitar before!
You're in luck as I've got TWO new Evertune videos on the way!
@@RobArnoldWorld I knew I could rely on you to deliver the goods Rob!
I love these videos. No longer horrified of my Floyd rose guitars..
Super glad to hear that Frank!🎸
Always good stuff. When “eyes of a criminal” solo lesson?! 😆
I'll keep it in mind!
@@RobArnoldWorld hell yeah!
Even though I'm familiar with adjusting intonation, I still like watching videos like this. It's a good refresher, at least. I have the same guitar, but the 2020 model. I ended up swapping out the Fishmans for the EMG 81/60 combo.
Shoot, my low E dances around perfect and I'm tuned to E flat with 11-52 strings. That's on my EC-1001, though. My M-1000 lives in D and drop C, occasionally, and it seems to be a little more stable with tuning.
Nice! Sounds like you've got couple nice guitars!
@@RobArnoldWorld Yeah, they're pretty nice, especially the Eclipse. I've been an ESP/LTD fan for many years now. They just have a nice fit and finish to them and have a good feel to them. My Eclipse was a B-stock, so I got it for a good price. I put a GraphTech nut on both guitars and what an improvement.
EMGs over Fishmans all day any day, eh?!!! 😀👍🏼
I did the same with my Schecter SLS Elite Evil Twin. It came with Fishman Fluence Moderns but I just really did not dig the sound of them. Had them swapped for the EMG 81/60 and it sounds much better now. Fishmans are great pickups but I feel they're a bit overrated.
@@patrickolivier1 Yeah, I tried the Fluence Modern pickups for about 6 months before I changed them out for my go-to EMG 81/60 combo and I immediately heard a drastic difference. EMGs just have a nasty snarl about them, especially the 81, and I love the bluesy sound of the 60. The 60 is quite killer in the bridge, too.
Great video! Often overlooked, intonation is just as important as any other aspect of setup/ maintenance. I can't tell you how many used guitars I come across that have all the saddles in a perfect line, a tell tale that they didn't intonate the guitar. It's sad because they probably gave up on the instrument without the guitar ever being set up properly and allowed to shine.
I just got an Ibanez bass for $100 used that had a terrible setup with high action, a couple high frets, improper intonation, and fret sprout. The guy hated the bass and I probably could have talked him into giving it to me for free. I set it up with the used strings for proper relief, action, and intonation and played it for about 2 weeks to assess the fret needs. I ended up doing a full fret level , crown, and polish and I filed and rounded the fret ends and rolled the fingerboard edge. Finished up with new strings and setup + intonation and I have a gigable $100 bass.
I absolutely enjoy the process of bringing an instrument back to life that is so close to being thrown away. The neck is SOOOO comfortable now and the bass really shines. I know it's better than it was new.
I get that maintenance is for everyone, and if it's not, that's fair... just make sure your gear gets visits to a qualified tech that will make it all that it can be.
Awesome! That sounds like a fun rehab! I'd like to learn more about fret work, and how to do everything you mentioned. I currently don't know the first thing about it!
@@RobArnoldWorld I learned with UA-cam videos. Just finished my 5th fret level and I see improvement with each project.
If you’re looking to do it, pick up a used Squier affinity for $100 and I guarantee the frets need leveling. When you’re done you can give it away or sell it for what you paid.
Stew mac’s z file is worth it…. I’m using a 3 corner file and there was certainly a learning curve.
@@SixString_J5 I'll definitely consider it John. Thanks!
Hey Rob! 🤘🏻 I recently purchased this guitar after watching your review on this one.
Could you advise which 9v battery should be used for this and how often should it be changed?
And what is your opinion on 18v mod for Fishman moderns?
Awesome man! Lately I've been using the Amazon Basics batteries, but you can never go wrong with the traditional heavy hitters like Duracell or Energizer.
As long as you always remember to unplug your guitar cable from your guitar after each session, the battery should last a year or more.
I've never tried any mods with Fishmans. But I did recently try one with EMG 81's, and you can hear those results here if your interested! ua-cam.com/video/M3xyd_4xNJU/v-deo.html
@@RobArnoldWorld Thank you so much for getting back to me bro! I already saw your video on 24v mod for EMGs and that made me curious for Fishman moderns..
It will be so much helpful for us if you could make a video on Fishman moderns as well..
Have you seen this video where I compare the 81 to the Fishman Fluence? ua-cam.com/video/OuJST1SuKJo/v-deo.html@@AugmentedNick
Again another great tutorial Rob 😁🤘🏻.....Not sponsored by BOSS 🤘🏻
Thanks dude! And I wish I was sponsored by @BOSSchannel!
my intonation is off on the A string. I moved the saddle back even to the fardest, it did nothing still the same. I go ok it's the other way so I do it twice again putting it at the fardest it still off. lol bottom line? your guess is as good as mine. forget about it is my answer.
This you need to do if you use thicker strings or thinner you need to check them in any case :d
This should always be done in playing position
Exactly as I state in the video at 2:43.
Hey Rob quick question. When would I adjust the string height of each saddle? Should it be before or after intonation? Thank again and love the videos 🤟🏼
Yo Mark! Just remember that intonation is always the LAST step. Think of it like the finishing touch. Every adjustment you make, in terms of tuning, neck relief, string height, float, etc.., is then finalized by dialing in perfect intonation. Every adjustment you make, will have an affect on your intonation, so therefor it's always the last step.
Hi, thanks for the great video. My guitar is a multiscale 7 string and it doesn't seem like adjusting the scale length is getting my notes on the higher frets in tune. I even loosened the screw so much that it came off the guitar and the saddle fell on the floor.
Is this an indication that I need to adjust my truss rod? I can't see with my eyes if the neck is bowed, but I'm not sure how to check.
Thanks.
Unfortunately I'm not familiar with how multi scale guitars function and behave, especially in terms of intonation. Your question though has my gears turning about making a video demonstrating how to look down the neck and what to look for, to help better determine how necessary a truss rod adjustment may be. Please stay tuned!
Rob , how does changing the neck effect intonation? Should you shoot for 25.5 “ from nut to saddle ? Making sure the distance from but to the 12th fret is the same as 12th to the saddle?
Not sure! I guess that's not the way I think about it. I never take any actual measurements into consideration. Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding your question?
Such a sweet guitar dude - the M1000...
But something just struck me...
Your signature moidel were based around your RA-3.
Always woundered why you'v like the RA-3 over the RA-2???
Hope to some day see a vid on all your custom guitars...
🤘🤘🤘
Martin
DK
And the RA 2 and 3 were based off off m1000's!
I think I use the RA-3 more, because I like the look of having the pick guard a little bit. That's honestly the only reason I can think of!
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Tru... But this is just me, but I would mis the the Floyd Rose that the older versions of the M-1000 had.
It looks fucking sweet thou... 👌
And it looks cool to... Have an RA-600 my self (that you and Matt signed like 10 years ago. 😁🤘)
Just curious...Thought that there some sort of problem with the RA-2 since wee so really get to see that guitar... 👍
🤘🤘🤘
@@Martinroot I'll try and break it out more often!🎸
When are we adjusting intonation is it fine to be one level ahead or behind on (I'm trying to mean example when are we adjusting E string and checking on 12th fret and indicator showing 1 or 2 level up or low) tuner indicator or is it fine ? and can I use clip tuners when I'm adjusting intonation?
With intonation, you need to be as accurate as possible, or it's not worth doing at all. So I would aim for perfection and get as close as you can. Any tuner will do, but the better the tuner, the better the results!
Even though I was never a huge Chimaira fan, always loved Rob's playing. Great vid, but his tone of voice comes off as a new hire training vid lol.
Haha... when can you start?🤣
Hello there Rob.
I have a question.
How long you keep the 9v battery for your active pick ups in the guitar?
Do you have a certain time frame just in case the battery start to leak battery acid?
Thanks
So with active pickups, as you may know, if you keep your cable plugged into your guitar, it's constantly draining the battery. So just remember to always unplug the cable from your guitar when you're not jamming. And if you do that, I'd say a 9 volt should last you more than a year at least. I have guitars that have been cased up for 5 years plus, and I'll bet the 9volt is still good in them. When in doubt, just give it the ol' tongue test!
@@RobArnoldWorld thanks very much.
Your channel is very informative!!!
Happy to hear that!@@madara6630
My old tuner had a needle and I found to be very good to use. One thing I'd like to ask you Rob. What is the longest time that you had strings on any of your guitars ? and does it harm the neck of any other part of the guitar with having strings on for a long time .
I like the feel of fresh strings, so on guitars that I play often, I change the strings often. But I have many guitars I don't touch for YEARS, and the strings just sit on them with no issues, other than aging. Guitars are meant to have strings on them, and so they certainly don't mind them. You can leave a set on for decades, and some will say that will only improve the nature of that instrument!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld Thank you for the reply Rob and asking my Question. Another reason why I asked that Question is that when I had my Hondo guitar I once had a set of strings on this guitar for about 8 to 9 months and it never went out of tune. So I did finally change the strings and the neck needed looking at.
Hej Rob. What string height do you have? I always hunt for lowest possible action without any buzz, I am also a heavy picker thats why I could never get away lower then 1,75mm with 12-60 in drop c
I prefer the lowest action possible as well!
Hey man, just wondering. How can I tell whether or not I should raise the bridge? I have an ML1 Modern Standard Baritone with a Chapman String-Through Hardtail. And I've tried intonating that bottom low E string (I'm in drop G#) and the tuning of that bottom string is absolutely driving me insane. I've got it as close as I can get but I just wonder if it'd be easier if I lowered or heightened the bridge of that specific string? I'm just wondering if you could help me out or if anyone knows. Thanks.
Hey man, so are you saying the string won't stay consistently in tune, or are you saying that you're unable to intonate it properly?
If sharp tighten towards the bridge and if flat lossen away from bridge? Just tried intonation this weekend and was totally doing the opposite... :/ Time to go back and do it right.
Thanks Rob these video tutorials are amazing
General rule of thumb is if the fretted note is sharp, then the saddle needs to be moved back. If the fretted note is flat, the saddle needs to be moved forward. Flat, forward -- sharp, back. I always have to tell myself this when adjusting intonation, lol. 😁
@Booty McNasteez Since your saddles are IN your bridge, you wouldn't really want to say it the way you've said it. Instead, think of it in the same way, but use the guitars NECK or pickups as a point of reference.
If sharp move the saddle away from the neck. If flat, move the saddle towards the neck.
@@RobArnoldWorld I had to edit my comment, so it removed your heart, lol. Now I'm sad. 😋
do we need to get perfect intonation for every single fret thru out the fretboard ? or 12th and open strings stay the same tuning is okay to go ?
I found there're little sharp or flat notes here and there after getting the 12th and open strings at perfect intonation
You know, I've noticed that too. But I think getting it right at the 12th fret is the happy medium. So that's where I put my focus.
That depends on how much sents is it off actually :) Often after the nut (1-2, up to 5th fret) you can notice sharper notes, especially if nut has not been cut properly. Also, it depends on the level of neck relief and quality of fret work. I have few guitars that are almost spot on across all the fretboard (they are off by 1-4 cents). Also, I had 2 Harley Benton Amaroks that had strange bridge position, where last low string could not be intonated properly, saddle was the whole way back, even without a spring. With spring and maxed saddle 20-24 frets were like 17-25 cents off, which is very noticeable (and it was standard tuning, not even talking about drop/lower ones). So worst cases for that are: wrong position for the bridge > badly cut nut > some high frets :) But there is no such thing as absolutely perfect intonation on fretted instruments and without true temperament frets :)
BUT before you think all hope is gone - try to change strings, sometimes they are the problem :)
A pick, with your own face on it? That's full on meta there!
I always struggle with my seven strings...the B is always JUST out but that tiny but of out is massive to my ears i find I have to drop that B ever so slightly flat and this is on all of my seven strings the rest of the guitar is pitch perfect...crazy! 😵💫
That's actually quite common! I'll actually tune my 6th or 7th string, whichever is lowest, sliiiiiiightly flat, so that when I strike it with authority, it actually sounds perfectly in tune with the chord. I hope that makes sense!
@@RobArnoldWorld glad to know its not just me going crazy 🤣🤣 thanks Rob 👊
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Yea it’s not just you bro. That drove me crazy my first few years and I eventually just started tuning my top five strings (or six if I’m on my seven) with the tuner and tuning my bottom string by ear.
I’ve got expensive USA guitars and cheaper ones but this is something I find to be true with ALL of them.
@@beastlybeast2716 Yupp i have two high end LTD sevenstrings and a high end sevenstring Solar two of them have evertune bridges and they all have the same problem its really is annoying. And yeah i too ended up tuning the B by ear. Im gonna take them to my local guitar store and have them look into it.
Hi Rob, what gauges are you using for Drop C? Thanks
11-52!
Just started to service my own guitars and always seem to find the G,B,E hard to intonate. Always don’t seem to register on my tuner, is it something I’m doing wrong?. E,A,D no issues.
Is either your bridge, or pickup(s), super slanted to one side? That's the only thing I can think of right away... like maybe your tuner isn't getting a strong reading from those strings when plucked?
Thanks for the advice 👍
Whenever I'm about to do an intonation on either my Tele och Stratocaster, with my string action settled, I get an irritating sitar like/buzzing sound. Fine adjusting the saddles makes it go away, but then the intonation is way off. It's a never ending cycle. Intonation, sitar like buzz, adjusting the saddle, ruined intonation. Back to square one. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Could the gentle knocking on the saddles be the trick? Or is it that I've never considered loosening the strings when doing the intonation?
Honestly that sounds like an action issue to me. Have you checked out my truss rod video? ua-cam.com/video/ktiF2rysCW0/v-deo.html
I recommend watching it... it's only like 5 min long. Perhaps it will present some info that may help in your situation.
Thank you for replying. I have set my neck relief with a gague feeler, the action to 1.6 mm with the help of a radius gauge suitable to my neck radius. Everything is basically set. But I'm always failing when it comes to the intonation part. I think theres nothing wrong with the nut since the sitar like sound appears during freting and gets elimininated with slight modifications on the saddles.
That sounds odd! I wouldn't think to associate fret buzz with string length. Perhaps you should take it to a pro for one great setup, which then you can use as a baseline moving forward.@@viktorjohansson9820
I noticed you are tuned down to a C, what steps are required to set it up your guitar for that type of tuning? Is there any magic involved in that?
As long as you have a fixed bridge, you should be able to do it no problem! This doesn't have anything to do with setups, but if you're interested in learning more about drop tunings, check out this video! ua-cam.com/video/Px3hJZVM8D4/v-deo.html
I’ve noticed that sometimes a guitar is in tune on first and twelfth frets, but other frets are not in tune. What’s up with that?
I've experienced that as well, and all I can say is that the more perfectly intonated your guitar is, the better the tuning will be on every fret, across the entire fretboard. However, minor discrepancies are inherent. Keep in mind as well, that a higher quality instrument will have a better overall tuning than a lower quality instrument.
The only surefire way around this though, is with an Evertune bridge. Perfect tuning on every fret, every time.
Aye aye eye ... !!!
If a string is sharp, the string needs to be lengthened to flatten it. Conversely, if the note is flat, the string needs to be shortened. So making a string longer makes it flatter, while making it shorter makes it sharper.Jan 7, 2016
Way simple.
What happens when I I run out of saddle space and it’s still to the flat side, I tried stretching the string, but no luck, it’s the A string on a Jackson JS32T King V…
Maybe try starting over. Remove the string, reposition the saddle to around its midway position, put on a NEW string, tune and stretch the hell out of it, then try setting the intonation again.
@@RobArnoldWorld I readjusted the truss rod and it fell right into place and had to readjust the D and G strings, sounds great now!!! I also joined your Patreon page, keep up the great work man!!!🤘🎸🔥
@@REDDRAGON666ful Oh awesome bro! I appreciate that! Do me a favor and send a quick reply to the welcome message I sent you on Patreon and let me know that you're Red Dragon on UA-cam, so that I can connect the dots! Thanks!🤘
You don't always have to pluck it hard, in fact sometimes thats not right, to do.
ua-cam.com/video/nDgIHibIE0M/v-deo.html
ASMR for guitarists!
Now I know what to do tonight.
This video almost convinced me to restring and intonate both of my guitars. 😂 I'll save it for a rainy day, though.