@@graffitirasto Assuming they haven't changed their business model then yes. However, you will get incremental updates. Since version 5.0 only recently came out, it should theoretically be good for a while before they slap you with a new fee. Thanks for watching!
Great no nonsense tutorial. Thank you! Those fees for updates sound like they're illegal or should be and are incredibly lame!!! I just purchased this software and had no idea about paying for updates. The software works great but the companies business practices don't seem so great.
Thank you for your kind comments and for watching. Overall the software does what I need it to do professionally, so as much as I don't like the ongoing fees (of which I haven't had to pay any additional since making this video), it enables me to get better results for my clients. So I'll continue to use the software until something cheaper and better comes along.
I've been dependent on Neat Video because I film with the GH5. Even when I light my environments well...noise creeps in at 600 ISO pretty quickly even with a wide open F 1.7 lens. My problem with NEAT is the heavy rendering it places on my high end MSI Trident gaming rig. It will take me 8 hrs to export a 2 minute video that has NEAT embedded throughout. Saves my footage, but what a nightmare. Any advice?
Hmm, are you rendering in your timeline before exporting? I always do that. Also make sure you have hardware rendering / encoding enabled in your export settings. Premiere sometimes defaults to software which will take forever to output. What type of footage are you trying to output and what type is the source footage / what camera?
@@rodrrico I film with a gh5. My footage is all filmed in 4k and interpreted into 23.976. I also export in 4k. I don't render the neat footage because 1. It takes forever to render it. 2. Even if I did render it, any minor tweak to any applied effect such as lumetri, scaling, opacity, time remapping or even simply shifting the clip on the timeline resets the entire render and requires the clip to be re-rendered hence wasting even more time... And 3. Exporting rendered footage from the timeline lowers the quality of the final export.
@@ramymelhem I hear you. Though when you're about to export the final version, try rendering any red clips on your timeline. Other than that, I think it has to be something to do with your Premiere hardware encoding settings. Try and set Mercury nVidia Cuda as an option for video rendering - if possible in your setup. That should help. Also Neat Video 5.2 is out and has some performance improvements. Let me know how you get on. I hope this helps!
@@konstantinaksenov4850 thank you. Ive realized that order matters. I generally nest the clip after applying warp and lumetri so I avoid all of those problems. Neat video is slow regardless. Why couldn't there be a convenient de-noiser for video like there is for lightroom....something that isn't so cpu intensive
@@ramymelhem NeatVideo is a very hardware-dependent plugin. Currently, my system is built on ryzen 9 3900x + 64GB RAM + RX580 8GB and the plugin works fast enough. However, the rendering time already depends on the performance of this old video card. Modern top-end video cards and processors significantly increase the speed of neatvideo: blog.neatvideo.com/post/hw-nov19
Weird question, I cannot see that pop-up box you got detailing the render time. The bar above my clip is red and I am unable to playback the video without it being choppy - so I know it is still rendering. Are you able to help me view how much time is left in the render?
I would mark in and out on the area that is red, ensure the video track is enabled and try rendering again. You should get a popup box of frames to / remain rendering every time you render anything in your timeline. If it's still not working, you might need to restart Premiere or possibly reinstall it. That's a strange problem you have there.
If you're dealing with heavy effects layers then certainly on that. I usually use an adjustment layer as I don't like 'destructive editing', though i occasionally use neat video on the actual video track (if not needing all the extra visual treatment layers above). I also use it on nested sequences and it runs a treat. Great question and thanks for watching!
That's right. At the time of writing, you only pay for the version you buy.. eg 5.x.x but if you want version 6.x.x it will cost more - an upgrade cost. Thanks for watching and for your question :)
This would be to do with your video settings, either outputting in a format the footage cannot convert to or going from NTSC to PAL etc. This is unlikely related to NeatVideo.
I always shoot within the confines that prevent as much grain as possible, very cool to see you can actually do something to HELP grain VANISH for those times when you need it! Great review mate!
Thanks for watching Mark - always appreciate it mate. Indeed, I always do my best to avoid those higher ISOs/ The drone footage was particularly hard as I only had footage shot in relatively well lit conditions (albeit the end of the day).
You can remove noise from only darker areas / lighter areas using the advanced tools, but I personally haven't tried this method. I believe it uses alpha channels to determine what dark / light area for the software to focus on. Does that make sense? I recommend watching a tutorial for advanced noise removal like that. Good question, and thank you for watching :)
Neat Video is incredible for denoising 3d rendered footage. Saves me hours of render time and has saved my butt on deadlines so many times. It has paid for itself many times over.
The NV5 guide says to never use dark footage for the auto profile. Should always be a lighter shade with a little more detail. I've used only dark when I didnt have a choice and it seems to do the same good job.
I did a video about small lights and wasn't happy with the noise, so been practicing in improving the lighting using these small lights for a scene, there's still noise but better outcome. Tried the demo version and wow what a difference so I bought it. Tried it on the vid and honestly it's really good, shocked tbh. Price, yes it's out there but it's an investment and starting a new business so I feel it Will make its money back
Exactly. Neat video is built for professionals. You'll be glad you bought it when you have a good paying job for a client and you need to 'save' your footage in post. I've found this so many times. Loved your story and I'm glad you have found value in this. Thank you for watching and for your excellent comment.
@@rodrrico no problem at all and when you consider people are willing to spend a lot of money on a fast lens buy complain something like this cost under 150 boggles me a little. It allows you to keep what equipment you got, hold off until client money comes In and then invest if the business calls for a fast lens. It was shot on the kit lens at 5.6 and iso 400 for a night scene so all things considered it did an amazing job
Holy moly, what an awesome plugin. I’ve heard good things, but this has blown my expectations, definitely gonna check it out. Also, great video dude, really enjoyed it and also to see that you’re clearly an F1 fan. I was up at Silverstone this year for the GP, best race I’ve ever seen, was incredible!! Thanks again dude.
It's an expensive plugin, but for me, the speed and accuracy is worth the price of admission. Oh yeah I'm an F1 tragic through and through! That was a Mclaren 2011 jacket. I didn't realise I had it on when I did my first run through, but decided to just keep it on :D
rodrrico 2011, button & Hamilton at McLaren, was an awesome year. A fast red bull, Alonso in a Ferrari (where he belongs imho) and the two McLarens and pre hybrid-turbo days too!!
@@120fps Yeah, I really miss the screamer engines we used to have. I grew up on the v10 era (been watching since about 1998 - ug that's 21 years ago...). Not a huge fan of how the formula is right now with the difficulty to pass and the Mercedes utter dominance (and yes I lived through the Schumacher / Ferrari dominance, but that was far less due to high attrition rates with mechanical failures etc). I made a random video on my channel about the best places to watch the Melbourne Grand Prix live if you guys are interested... it was a few months ago though. Anyway, love that you're fans! We should do a cross planet podcast about F1 some time ;)
You need to render the clip(s) you have applied Neat Video to. Any red lines on your timeline need to be rendered before playback. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
Great plugin! I used it for the first time like 6 years ago (previous version), and now use the Version 5, which is TOTALLY BETTER & IMPROVED! I tend to use Magic Bullet Denoiser II in Premiere (specially with GoPro clips), but I'm starting to change it for Neat Video v5, because it renders faster and it has better previews 😎👌
Oh wow! I only came across neat video with version 4 in like 2017. I honestly think it's the best in the business. Thanks for your feedback and for watching :)
Perhaps, but this is also dependant on your computer specs. You need a strong CPU, RAM and GFX card to see real improvements (for instance I have 9700k cpu, 32gb 3200mhz ram and a 1070 8gb oc gfx card) and i only use super fast SSDs these days. Also perhaps it could be effected by using proxies. I didn't use proxies for all my tests as I only ever do graphical effects on the final pass of an edit.
Hi there, it depends on several factors including the codec of the source video (4k Pro Pres 444 for instance will take a lot longer than a 1080p h264 clip). Furthermore, it also depends on your computer hardware capabilities. What CPU you have (what speed it is, how many cores and threads etc), how much ram etc. There is no specific time per say. What I can tell you is that with my high end specs, it cleans up clips in less than a minute, including rendering for playback on the timeline at full resolution. Neat video added a substantial performance boost with the latest version 5.2. I hope that helps you a little bit. Basically, it is the best quality and fastest professional grade denoiser on the market right now.
@@MMAHypeWatch That shouldn't cause any significant delay with render / processing times. As I say there are many factors that dictate what sort of render / process speeds are possible. The take away is that Neat Video performs at a professional level in a timely manner. Hopefully my short examples in the review can give you an idea of some of the daily use results.
@@rodrrico I'm going to give it a shot because this could be really useful as another program I tried........did a good job but took about 50 minutes for a 30 second long clip...
@@MMAHypeWatch I hope this works better for you. FYI, I gave-up on AMD CPUs as they bottlenecked bigtime in premiere pro (and obviously neat video works within that app). Such a shame as the prices for AMD are always way better than Intel. FYI, I'm rocking the Intel 9700K right now. Best of luck! I'm not affiliated with Neat Video and I only reviewed it as I think they deserve to be known - albeit not the cheapest solution out there.
Hello Roderick, have you ever heard of topaz denoise? It is an amazing denoiser, but only for image stills. I was wondering... maybe you could render a noisy clip from premiere to individual frames, batch filter them in photoshop or paint shop pro with topaz denoise, and reimport them in premiere. It's convoluted, yes, but the denoising is absurdly good... and if it is better than neat video's, it might be worth it!
Wow! That's a massive amount of effort and considering we work in PAL 25fps here in Australia, that would be 11,000 frames just to run this video. Can't see myself doing that as time is money. But I'll check it out for stills. Thanks for watching and thanks for introducing me to another piece of software.
Oh God, yeah I was thinking of smaller clips hahahaha. For stills it is absolutely amazing. I used to do PR and brochure design for an engineering services company. Sometimes the tech guys took some stills inside some dank places were they were servicing a machine, with crappy cell phone cameras. Topaz Denoise was a Godsend to get those pictures in a usable state!
@@mindblockandroid Might be visual artifacts, due to the differences between each frame; might not see it in side-by-side stills, but played back as video might be problematic.
I did the simplest denoise process in this video, however the tools are very deep and capable of reducing any artifacting to a high calibre. There are advanced settings at allow for such detailed tweaking. Of course very bad footage will only yield comparable results. Though for my professional work it always pulls wonders from the hat. Thanks for watching!
Honestly, what a game changer Neat Video is! I wish I had some Super 8 footage I could ingest to see how it cleans it up!🎥📹
I have some spare that needs converting to digital...
@@MediaLozano Hit me up when you return to Oz!
great video! thank you so much. Did i understand correctly? if you buy one version, it will stop working if a new one comes out?
@@graffitirasto Assuming they haven't changed their business model then yes. However, you will get incremental updates. Since version 5.0 only recently came out, it should theoretically be good for a while before they slap you with a new fee. Thanks for watching!
@@rodrrico Thank you for answering sir. Makes sense. Gonna get it now, really need it. Hug
Great no nonsense tutorial. Thank you! Those fees for updates sound like they're illegal or should be and are incredibly lame!!! I just purchased this software and had no idea about paying for updates. The software works great but the companies business practices don't seem so great.
Thank you for your kind comments and for watching. Overall the software does what I need it to do professionally, so as much as I don't like the ongoing fees (of which I haven't had to pay any additional since making this video), it enables me to get better results for my clients. So I'll continue to use the software until something cheaper and better comes along.
I've been dependent on Neat Video because I film with the GH5. Even when I light my environments well...noise creeps in at 600 ISO pretty quickly even with a wide open F 1.7 lens. My problem with NEAT is the heavy rendering it places on my high end MSI Trident gaming rig. It will take me 8 hrs to export a 2 minute video that has NEAT embedded throughout. Saves my footage, but what a nightmare. Any advice?
Hmm, are you rendering in your timeline before exporting? I always do that. Also make sure you have hardware rendering / encoding enabled in your export settings. Premiere sometimes defaults to software which will take forever to output.
What type of footage are you trying to output and what type is the source footage / what camera?
@@rodrrico I film with a gh5. My footage is all filmed in 4k and interpreted into 23.976. I also export in 4k. I don't render the neat footage because 1. It takes forever to render it. 2. Even if I did render it, any minor tweak to any applied effect such as lumetri, scaling, opacity, time remapping or even simply shifting the clip on the timeline resets the entire render and requires the clip to be re-rendered hence wasting even more time... And 3. Exporting rendered footage from the timeline lowers the quality of the final export.
@@ramymelhem I hear you. Though when you're about to export the final version, try rendering any red clips on your timeline. Other than that, I think it has to be something to do with your Premiere hardware encoding settings. Try and set Mercury nVidia Cuda as an option for video rendering - if possible in your setup. That should help. Also Neat Video 5.2 is out and has some performance improvements. Let me know how you get on. I hope this helps!
@@konstantinaksenov4850 thank you. Ive realized that order matters. I generally nest the clip after applying warp and lumetri so I avoid all of those problems. Neat video is slow regardless. Why couldn't there be a convenient de-noiser for video like there is for lightroom....something that isn't so cpu intensive
@@ramymelhem NeatVideo is a very hardware-dependent plugin. Currently, my system is built on ryzen 9 3900x + 64GB RAM + RX580 8GB and the plugin works fast enough. However, the rendering time already depends on the performance of this old video card. Modern top-end video cards and processors significantly increase the speed of neatvideo: blog.neatvideo.com/post/hw-nov19
Love that you equally discussed pros and cons! Good tool.
Thank you so much. I always try to provide balanced and honest reviews.
Weird question, I cannot see that pop-up box you got detailing the render time. The bar above my clip is red and I am unable to playback the video without it being choppy - so I know it is still rendering. Are you able to help me view how much time is left in the render?
I would mark in and out on the area that is red, ensure the video track is enabled and try rendering again. You should get a popup box of frames to / remain rendering every time you render anything in your timeline.
If it's still not working, you might need to restart Premiere or possibly reinstall it. That's a strange problem you have there.
Hi! I have a doubt, what do you think is better to work neat video directly in the footage or better on an adjustment layer? thanks
If you're dealing with heavy effects layers then certainly on that. I usually use an adjustment layer as I don't like 'destructive editing', though i occasionally use neat video on the actual video track (if not needing all the extra visual treatment layers above). I also use it on nested sequences and it runs a treat. Great question and thanks for watching!
You’re not required to pay for the updated version though, correct? It’s not a monthly subscription, right?
That's right. At the time of writing, you only pay for the version you buy.. eg 5.x.x but if you want version 6.x.x it will cost more - an upgrade cost. Thanks for watching and for your question :)
@@rodrrico Thank you for such a quick response! Extremely helpful! I appreciate it :)
Excellent review. No bs, just straight to the results.
My clip is jittering or missing frames after exports/render. Am I doing something wrong?
This would be to do with your video settings, either outputting in a format the footage cannot convert to or going from NTSC to PAL etc. This is unlikely related to NeatVideo.
I always shoot within the confines that prevent as much grain as possible, very cool to see you can actually do something to HELP grain VANISH for those times when you need it! Great review mate!
Thanks for watching Mark - always appreciate it mate. Indeed, I always do my best to avoid those higher ISOs/ The drone footage was particularly hard as I only had footage shot in relatively well lit conditions (albeit the end of the day).
Tell me. Is it possible to remove noise only in dark areas without touching light ones? Thank you.
You can remove noise from only darker areas / lighter areas using the advanced tools, but I personally haven't tried this method. I believe it uses alpha channels to determine what dark / light area for the software to focus on. Does that make sense? I recommend watching a tutorial for advanced noise removal like that. Good question, and thank you for watching :)
@@rodrrico Thanks.
Neat Video is incredible for denoising 3d rendered footage. Saves me hours of render time and has saved my butt on deadlines so many times. It has paid for itself many times over.
I totally agree. It's excellent. Thank you for watching and for your feedback!
The NV5 guide says to never use dark footage for the auto profile. Should always be a lighter shade with a little more detail. I've used only dark when I didnt have a choice and it seems to do the same good job.
Was that an official guide? I've been using dark areas for years with no issue. Thanks for watching and for your feedback!
I did a video about small lights and wasn't happy with the noise, so been practicing in improving the lighting using these small lights for a scene, there's still noise but better outcome.
Tried the demo version and wow what a difference so I bought it.
Tried it on the vid and honestly it's really good, shocked tbh. Price, yes it's out there but it's an investment and starting a new business so I feel it Will make its money back
Exactly. Neat video is built for professionals. You'll be glad you bought it when you have a good paying job for a client and you need to 'save' your footage in post. I've found this so many times.
Loved your story and I'm glad you have found value in this. Thank you for watching and for your excellent comment.
@@rodrrico no problem at all and when you consider people are willing to spend a lot of money on a fast lens buy complain something like this cost under 150 boggles me a little. It allows you to keep what equipment you got, hold off until client money comes In and then invest if the business calls for a fast lens.
It was shot on the kit lens at 5.6 and iso 400 for a night scene so all things considered it did an amazing job
AUDIO FILES!
Lmao. That got me good.
I live to give ;)
Holy moly, what an awesome plugin. I’ve heard good things, but this has blown my expectations, definitely gonna check it out.
Also, great video dude, really enjoyed it and also to see that you’re clearly an F1 fan. I was up at Silverstone this year for the GP, best race I’ve ever seen, was incredible!! Thanks again dude.
It's an expensive plugin, but for me, the speed and accuracy is worth the price of admission.
Oh yeah I'm an F1 tragic through and through! That was a Mclaren 2011 jacket. I didn't realise I had it on when I did my first run through, but decided to just keep it on :D
rodrrico 2011, button & Hamilton at McLaren, was an awesome year. A fast red bull, Alonso in a Ferrari (where he belongs imho) and the two McLarens and pre hybrid-turbo days too!!
@@120fps Yeah, I really miss the screamer engines we used to have. I grew up on the v10 era (been watching since about 1998 - ug that's 21 years ago...). Not a huge fan of how the formula is right now with the difficulty to pass and the Mercedes utter dominance (and yes I lived through the Schumacher / Ferrari dominance, but that was far less due to high attrition rates with mechanical failures etc). I made a random video on my channel about the best places to watch the Melbourne Grand Prix live if you guys are interested... it was a few months ago though. Anyway, love that you're fans! We should do a cross planet podcast about F1 some time ;)
I got 5.3 is it a difference upgrading to 5.5 in quality or speed
Yes. Better performance all-round. Many of the updates are often performance related.
Hi rodririco i just want to know why my frames dropped and start to lag after apply? Its so bad
You need to render the clip(s) you have applied Neat Video to. Any red lines on your timeline need to be rendered before playback. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
Hi am from kenya and i need this plugin but i can't afford it i dont have money because am up coming in production field😔😔
Every once in a while they have a sale :)
Great plugin!
I used it for the first time like 6 years ago (previous version), and now use the Version 5, which is TOTALLY BETTER & IMPROVED!
I tend to use Magic Bullet Denoiser II in Premiere (specially with GoPro clips), but I'm starting to change it for Neat Video v5, because it renders faster and it has better previews 😎👌
Oh wow! I only came across neat video with version 4 in like 2017. I honestly think it's the best in the business. Thanks for your feedback and for watching :)
Thanks, great review
my render time takes hours for a 10 min 4k clip using 720 proxies. im using their demo version. is their paid version faster?
Perhaps, but this is also dependant on your computer specs. You need a strong CPU, RAM and GFX card to see real improvements (for instance I have 9700k cpu, 32gb 3200mhz ram and a 1070 8gb oc gfx card) and i only use super fast SSDs these days. Also perhaps it could be effected by using proxies. I didn't use proxies for all my tests as I only ever do graphical effects on the final pass of an edit.
Thank you so much for this video, Subcribed!
I'm glad you found it of value, and thank you so much for subscribing. New reviews are coming next week!
I'm trying to render 2 hours of neat video footage. Send help
ooof! That's rough. Try cutting the clips up into manageable chunks to render.
i want it for premiere pro for mac Help plz ?
It is available for Premiere Pro on both MAC and PC.
How long does it take to clean a 45 second long clip?
Hi there, it depends on several factors including the codec of the source video (4k Pro Pres 444 for instance will take a lot longer than a 1080p h264 clip). Furthermore, it also depends on your computer hardware capabilities. What CPU you have (what speed it is, how many cores and threads etc), how much ram etc. There is no specific time per say.
What I can tell you is that with my high end specs, it cleans up clips in less than a minute, including rendering for playback on the timeline at full resolution. Neat video added a substantial performance boost with the latest version 5.2. I hope that helps you a little bit. Basically, it is the best quality and fastest professional grade denoiser on the market right now.
@@rodrrico I would say my specs are mid grade if not a little bit lower.
Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 550 =/ hrmm
@@MMAHypeWatch That shouldn't cause any significant delay with render / processing times. As I say there are many factors that dictate what sort of render / process speeds are possible. The take away is that Neat Video performs at a professional level in a timely manner. Hopefully my short examples in the review can give you an idea of some of the daily use results.
@@rodrrico I'm going to give it a shot because this could be really useful as another program I tried........did a good job but took about 50 minutes for a 30 second long clip...
@@MMAHypeWatch I hope this works better for you. FYI, I gave-up on AMD CPUs as they bottlenecked bigtime in premiere pro (and obviously neat video works within that app). Such a shame as the prices for AMD are always way better than Intel. FYI, I'm rocking the Intel 9700K right now.
Best of luck! I'm not affiliated with Neat Video and I only reviewed it as I think they deserve to be known - albeit not the cheapest solution out there.
Nice vid.
Nice video! And I also noticed the Vodafone Mclaren apparel
It's almost old enough to be classified as retro apparel nowadays ;) Thanks for watching!
amazing stuff! can't wait for more
Yes of course I wil always pay for my plugins
Hello Roderick, have you ever heard of topaz denoise? It is an amazing denoiser, but only for image stills. I was wondering... maybe you could render a noisy clip from premiere to individual frames, batch filter them in photoshop or paint shop pro with topaz denoise, and reimport them in premiere. It's convoluted, yes, but the denoising is absurdly good... and if it is better than neat video's, it might be worth it!
Wow! That's a massive amount of effort and considering we work in PAL 25fps here in Australia, that would be 11,000 frames just to run this video. Can't see myself doing that as time is money. But I'll check it out for stills. Thanks for watching and thanks for introducing me to another piece of software.
Oh God, yeah I was thinking of smaller clips hahahaha. For stills it is absolutely amazing. I used to do PR and brochure design for an engineering services company. Sometimes the tech guys took some stills inside some dank places were they were servicing a machine, with crappy cell phone cameras. Topaz Denoise was a Godsend to get those pictures in a usable state!
@@mindblockandroid Might be visual artifacts, due to the differences between each frame; might not see it in side-by-side stills, but played back as video might be problematic.
Noice one bro 👍
Cool guy !!!
You got me with the audio files smh
:D I'm glad you picked up on that little joke!
Nice Flex!
0:00 Genreal Kenobi...
Neat video - very long render
Reducing noise seems to create other artifacts.. not sure there's a gain at all in quality :/
I did the simplest denoise process in this video, however the tools are very deep and capable of reducing any artifacting to a high calibre. There are advanced settings at allow for such detailed tweaking. Of course very bad footage will only yield comparable results. Though for my professional work it always pulls wonders from the hat. Thanks for watching!
If they were charging for minor updates then that would be worth complaining.
My issue was that I got stung by buying the licence, then a few short months later I had to pay full price again. It's a great product though.
look same....
Glasses