It takes away sharpness if you select a portion of the video that contains too much texture (asphalt on a road is a good example) the program will mistake the texture of the asphalt as noise and remove that level of detail from the entire image. You have to isolate areas that are purely noise or build your own profiles based on the ISO and sensor with a pure black frame and noise removal. There’s also a sharpening option in the basic tab which I normally flip on.
@@FrameworkFilms This is interesting. How do I go about building a profile for my camera sensor? Would I just take video with the lens cap on and do something in the software?
@@CTcoreytrevor Essentially yeah. Say you normally use a Mavic 2 Pro to film (or whatever camera you use) - you can record a full black frame with the lens cap on or a heavy filter or closed aperture. You'd then record at iso 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600. You will then want to Create a "Mavic 2 ISO 1600" Custom Profile. So you load your black frame ISO 1600 video clip into Neat Video, denoise following the instructions in my YT video, and save that result as a Custom Profile by clicking across the top menu bar: "Profile > Save As.." Repeat the above workflow for all your desired ISOs and different camera sensors. I haven't personally done this because I usually find a selection area that I agree with denoising but the above is the "clinical" way to process and denoise using customized presets.
@@FrameworkFilms You know what, thank you very much for helping me. I have not seen that information shared anywhere, by anyone. So I really thank you for helping me by taking the time to write that out for me (any everyone else who will likely benefit). This software is very, very powerful and I want to use it as good as I can. I recommend everyone to buy this software, it's pretty shocking how good it is.
You’re welcome, hope it helps! Some trade secrets coming out here in the comments haha - We’re overdue to create more tutorials but hope you’ve had the chance to check out some of our other portfolio and client work on the main page of the channel/website :)
Great tutorial. Can you tell me if I can do denoise on 360 8k video (or even drone video) and than add adjustment layer above the clip in the same timeline and add lut , or do I have first to export denoised video and than import it again and do color grading or adding lut? Thank you.
You can try to denoise 360 8K video. I personally haven’t worked much with 360 footage. With aerial / drone video you can use this denoiser. Denoising the clip and adding adjustments on top is possible but will significantly increase your render time. Depending on the scenario and project type, it usually makes sense to denoise the footage first. Export it, re import and color / stabilize on top. Depends what kind of computer you’re using too and how charged up the specs are.
With my 8K timelapses I go through the process of perfecting each clip, denoising - then exporting, then stabilizing, then exporting, then de flickering further if needed, then exporting etc. I only apply certain effects to each clip when needed!
Neat video should be applied to the clip before color grading for faster performance. Just make sure the order of the effects places color lumetri underneath neat video in the effects control.
@@glacemedia2473 thanks! There are definitely a few industry secrets out there ;) Will be making more videos soon! Been distracted with some client work this month
Hello! A 20 minute 4k/10-bit video without Neat Video is rendered in 35 minutes, with Neat Video is rendered in 5 hours. Is this difference normal, can this process be improved, or what settings need to be made for faster final render?
Make sure you apply near video as the first layer of effects, and add color afterwards. The order of how the effects are placed significantly slow down or speed up the render process. Neat video is a very GPU/RAM intensive program so it is inevitable it will slow down the speed of render.
Thanks a bunch! Spent a little while wrestling to create that one haha - will be using it in more upcoming videos once I finish my current client project 😉
any help for how best to sharpen video after applying neat video? Sometimes it can take away sharpness to add smoothing /noise reduction. Thanks!
It takes away sharpness if you select a portion of the video that contains too much texture (asphalt on a road is a good example) the program will mistake the texture of the asphalt as noise and remove that level of detail from the entire image. You have to isolate areas that are purely noise or build your own profiles based on the ISO and sensor with a pure black frame and noise removal. There’s also a sharpening option in the basic tab which I normally flip on.
@@FrameworkFilms This is interesting. How do I go about building a profile for my camera sensor? Would I just take video with the lens cap on and do something in the software?
@@CTcoreytrevor Essentially yeah. Say you normally use a Mavic 2 Pro to film (or whatever camera you use) - you can record a full black frame with the lens cap on or a heavy filter or closed aperture. You'd then record at iso 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600.
You will then want to Create a "Mavic 2 ISO 1600" Custom Profile. So you load your black frame ISO 1600 video clip into Neat Video, denoise following the instructions in my YT video, and save that result as a Custom Profile by clicking across the top menu bar: "Profile > Save As.."
Repeat the above workflow for all your desired ISOs and different camera sensors.
I haven't personally done this because I usually find a selection area that I agree with denoising but the above is the "clinical" way to process and denoise using customized presets.
@@FrameworkFilms You know what, thank you very much for helping me. I have not seen that information shared anywhere, by anyone. So I really thank you for helping me by taking the time to write that out for me (any everyone else who will likely benefit). This software is very, very powerful and I want to use it as good as I can. I recommend everyone to buy this software, it's pretty shocking how good it is.
You’re welcome, hope it helps! Some trade secrets coming out here in the comments haha - We’re overdue to create more tutorials but hope you’ve had the chance to check out some of our other portfolio and client work on the main page of the channel/website :)
Dude, dust and scratches its for motion picture film. It is not about lens dust or scratches, it is for film scan restouration. 😀
Copy that, I’ve still found that option helps to clean up specialty media
do i have to create an adjustmeent layer b4 adding it
or i should just plavce it on the video?
Just place it on the video and make sure it’s the first effect for best rendering speed.
I hate noise. Both while I'm trying to sleep, and when I'm trying to edit. Thanks for the video, Framework!
Thanks Conner, has your video editing been improving? Show me some of your recent work, curious to check it out!
Great tutorial. Can you tell me if I can do denoise on 360 8k video (or even drone video) and than add adjustment layer above the clip in the same timeline and add lut , or do I have first to export denoised video and than import it again and do color grading or adding lut? Thank you.
You can try to denoise 360 8K video. I personally haven’t worked much with 360 footage. With aerial / drone video you can use this denoiser.
Denoising the clip and adding adjustments on top is possible but will significantly increase your render time. Depending on the scenario and project type, it usually makes sense to denoise the footage first. Export it, re import and color / stabilize on top. Depends what kind of computer you’re using too and how charged up the specs are.
With my 8K timelapses I go through the process of perfecting each clip, denoising - then exporting, then stabilizing, then exporting, then de flickering further if needed, then exporting etc. I only apply certain effects to each clip when needed!
Really great info Mike, excited to try out Neat video on the next project!
Thanks guys, it’s a great plugin!
Is it better to apply Neat before or after colour grading?
Neat video should be applied to the clip before color grading for faster performance.
Just make sure the order of the effects places color lumetri underneath neat video in the effects control.
@@FrameworkFilms thanks for that advice.
Absolutely
Great info Mike. A really good breakdown, very helpful.
Thanks! Glad you found the walkthrough useful!
@@FrameworkFilms Very useful video, it's always useful to go through topics like this as not loads of people cover it. I'll definitely be subscribing.
@@glacemedia2473 thanks! There are definitely a few industry secrets out there ;) Will be making more videos soon! Been distracted with some client work this month
So sick - what a great tool.
thanks a ton Zeke, it's really the best denoiser out there
Hello! A 20 minute 4k/10-bit video without Neat Video is rendered in 35 minutes, with Neat Video is rendered in 5 hours. Is this difference normal, can this process be improved, or what settings need to be made for faster final render?
Make sure you apply near video as the first layer of effects, and add color afterwards. The order of how the effects are placed significantly slow down or speed up the render process.
Neat video is a very GPU/RAM intensive program so it is inevitable it will slow down the speed of render.
Great Thanks!!!!!!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Sick intro dude!
Thanks a bunch! Spent a little while wrestling to create that one haha - will be using it in more upcoming videos once I finish my current client project 😉
Whats the name of that first song
Unsure, stock music!