How To Fix Noisy SLOG3 Footage
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
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Got noisy SLOG3 footage you filmed with your Sony camera? Here's how to fix it fast!
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0:00 How to fix noisy SLOG3 footage!
0:15 Why Your SLOG3 Footage Is Noisy
1:47 Save Time Color Grading SLOG3
2:01 How To Fix Noisy SLOG3 Footage In Post
4:06 Fix 1 To Reduce Noise For FREE
6:14 Fix 2 To DRAMATICALLY Reduce Noise
9:49 Free Guide To Help You Edit Videos Like A Pro
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😍 Hope this helps you get super clean and crispy SLOG3 footage!
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Hey Matt, do you have a video on how you go about editing multicam footage from weddings?
This is so helpful!! It's my first time using SLOG3 on my Sony camera and after reviewing the footages I was so sad. I'm going to try to apply these options and see where it takes me. Thanks a bunch!
Who do I feel like you are my dad? It's so simple, soft, and chill in here. Thank you so much for the advice! Also, your image quality is insane. Hope to have your quality one day!
Thank you for another amazing video matt!
Just downloaded the Neat Video trial... Wow. I don't think I've ever seen a more instantaneous impact from a plugin. You should be getting commission from them Matt!
Your LUTs are the best Matt!!
Thank you! I messed up on the exposure settings in my camera :( so this was helpful for the future!
Dammit Matt, your content is awesome! I think you might be my new UA-cam mentor lol. I'll be binge watching now that I picked up an FX30. Cheers! 🖖😃
Thanks man this helps me out a lot!
Thanks so much for that info I will help me with my Slog3 setting
Great channel Matt 👍
gosh dang, the amount of times I've had to come back to watch your videos lol
Neat Video is, IMO, a must-have for anyone editing video professionally in any capacity.
It's pretty magical!
Agreed I shoot good videos but lacked real knowledge using profile setting I’m familiar with them for sure but not when it comes to over exposing and canceling out noise
thank you very much. I learned a lot of useful things from you Matt..... for georgia
This is a really important tip for neat video and will dramatically increase the speed of it. I used to avoid using neat video even though the shot needed it because it would slow my computer down to an unbearable crawl. Here's what's happening. For some technical reasons I don't fully understand, Neat video works 100x better on an untouched, uncut, raw clip with no effects applied. You can't even make an in and out point because that slows it all down.
What I do is when I find a shot in my timeline that needs noise reduction and instead of applying neat video right away, I make a quick in and out point on my timeline of just that clip and render a high quality pro-res version of just that clip . Make sure your clip is already color corrected/graded before you do this or it defeats the purpose. I know it sounds like a pain but nothing is worse than neat video working slowly. This method is really not that bad at all, the clips render quickly, and even with the extra steps it's significantly faster than straight up applying neat video to clips that have been cut and have effects applied.
Next you need to import the clip you just rendered and place it on your timeline. I like to leave my original noisy video clip in the timeline, disable it, and then place the rendered pro res video on the layer above. Now you can apply neat video to it and be blown away at how much faster it works.
Anybody who has experienced the dreadful neat video lag knows how painful it is, with this method your neat video clip can literally playback in real time without even pre-rendering. If you're confused just know that the main idea is that neat video works 100x faster on a video with no cuts whatsoever, no effects, no speed ramping, no nothing! So just render out a copy of the clip with effects, color, in and out point baked in so that when you bring it back into premiere, neat video interprets it as a raw untouched clip, because it is.
Great tip
This was really helpful for me Bao. Thank you for sharing!
- Paul
You the best I was wondering how to fix slog3 in my camera and BOOM 💥 new video
Awesome! Good timing! :)
how does this effect impact the sharpness of the image? I would also assume it is miles ahead of VR Denoise within premiere? VR De noise seems to work for minor noise for me, but I notice a substantial loss of sharpness!
damn i just shot this weekend and had this issue. lesson learned, thanks
Neat Video makes my 51,000 ISO of live aurora borealis footage very clean. 10/10 recommend!
Awesome! Love the Northern Lights!
you just saved someones wedding thank u
Great video thank you for the help. Question is there a way to batch apply the same preset to multiple clips with neat video? Or do you have to apply the box to every clip?
You could try nesting multiple clips and then applying neat video to the nested clip. Not sure if it would work though
@@whoismatt you can just apply neat video to an adjustment layer over whichever clips you want. I do it often.
You rock!!!! Thx for your help!! =)
You are the best❣
Good video Matt 👍🏼 Was this (the piece to camera) shot in S-LOG 3 and your LUT applied?
Thanks! Yes all slog3 and my luts
”How to fix noisy footage? Use noise reduction!”
Hey Matt!! Maybe a dumb question but I've watched a LOT of SLOG3 videos involving the A7s3 10-bit coloring...what I have seen is many people suggesting that overexposing by that much is no longer necessary. I feel like I know your response based on this video, but just curious your thoughts with a well balanced 0.0 or 0.3 meter outdoors. Thanks!
Hey Mike! The choice is entirely up to you with how much you wanna overexpose but in all my testing and experience I've found that 1.7 to 2 stops over results in the least noise. Keep in mind that SLOG3 is pretty flexible which most likely contributes to people saying you don't have to overexpose as much.
After messing around with it for days now, just overexpose. Shooting it at 0.0 nearly always gives me worse looking images.
Thank you! Can I do the 1.7 - 2.0 overexposure with the exposure correction instead of ISO? Unfortunately I have to film in Auto ISO
neat video says first denoise, then apply lumetri with the lut. so is it better to first add neat video on slog3 flat, then lumetri rec709 ? or doesnt matter? and i assume colour grade in the end after denoise?
If your computer is slow after using an effect if you bring it to the top of the Effect controls panel it should help.
Weird question, I cannot see that pop-up box you got detailing the render time. The bar above my clip is red and I am unable to playback the video without it being choppy - so I know it is still rendering. Are you able to help me view how much time is left in the render?
Hi Matt, Any tips for how to best sharpen footage that has neat video applied to it? It can sometimes soften the image to remove noise to the point it may look slightly out of focus. Any advice for how to best sharpen after adding the effect is highly appreciate. Thanks!
Just use Sharpen effect and you are good to go! Don't crank it up too much though, it will make the video too digital-looking.
@@Fedor_Dokuchaev_Color very true. a small amount goes a long way!
Actually no need to highly overexpose on my FX6. Joel from Phantom luts describes it perfectly. Got some great footage so far.
link to this?
@@EleazarGray just use the search bar. Don‘t know the link right now
Love all your Sony content.
Hello there! On which camera were shot footages with man and women on a rock in front of a mountains?
Hey Matt! Out of curiosity -- are you saying in your video to apply Neat Video after ALL Steps are complete? They generally state to do so before any lumetri effects are applied due to the constraint is causes by doing it after... Are you seeing different results?
You can do it before. :)
You should do it before for best results, but can disable it during grade and just enable for render.
I wish someone did a full neat video tutorial 😊
Thumbs up for the beard shake… and the great teaching 😊
Dancing Matt is my favorite Matt 😂
Trying to keep up with your dance moves! 😜
A) If we are using the phantom neutral lut, instead of the slog3 to rec709 by Sony, we are supposed to expose normally +0 , right?
And B) first lut, then neat video, then colour grade? Or first lut , then colour grade , then neat video in the effect sequence? Thanks
It’s always better to error on overexposing (as long as you’re not clipping). It doesn’t lose any quality if you have to darken the image in post. Also you want to apply neat video before the color grade - although might be better to disable it while color grading to speed up workflow.
Hi Matt, when i add neat video then my film wont export through media encoder i have to dismantle neat video then it renders out to export, any fixes on this?
On the top Left corner you have available recording time shown on the screen. Where can i acitavete on my way Sony?
Can your LUTs also be applied to S cinnetone? I know S cinnetone supposed to be already good with bo grading but sometimes I would like to see if can grade it more .
Yes my standard luts work great with s-cinetone to add a bit of extra color. Just turn down the lut intensity a bit :)
thank you
Matt Can you recommend a colleague who does the same content using canon clog3?
Nice moves!
This is the case for CLOG3 as well, correct?
Hey Matt, Quick question does this also apply if your only using 8bit 4.2.0 camera?
I wouldn't recommend filming SLOG3 in 8-bit but if you didy, yes these techniques should help
I played around with neatvideo settings and found that every time i try to use the box to set the noise reduction for anything thats above 5, the footage gets really muddy, like i cranked the noise reduction waay up. is there something i’m missing?
Try setting the quality to high and seeing if that helps. Otherwise you can also tweak the luminance slider in the settings which will reduce the noise reduction a bit.
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With Neat don’t forget to place it before any other effects or there will be big problems.
Very important tip!!! But generally neat video denoiser is the ultimate killer slow down program for every computer xD
You can first nest the clip then you apply the plug in, hopefully that can work
I shot a lot of footage today all 2.0 stops over exposed and it is all so incredibly noisey that it feels almost unuseable. Help! Shooting on the FX3, slog3, raw through the atomos ninja v.
Nice moves :)
How about exposing for skin tone vs scenery? Still overexposed?
So would SLOG3 be suitable for lowlight work considering the heavier exposure requirements, such as during dusk and night conditions?
If you're using a newer Sony camera like the a7siii or a7iv etc that can hit really high ISOs then I would keep shooting SLOG3 for simplicity's sake. Otherwise you could switch to S-Cinetone if you wanted.
@@whoismatt in my specific use case where dark areas make up most of the video (testing flashlight beams), S-Log 3 has not yielded good results with the A7IV. At ISO 3200 it produces significantly more noise than other picture profiles (or no profile). The highlights are also much less bright than in the other picture profiles which is not a good thing when trying to show the light as realistically as possible. I realize that my use case is very niche though. I even went as far as comparing the footage with neat video and S-Log 3 had several times more noise. I am not sure if I am doing anything wrong, but for very low light footage, S-Log 3 might not be very suitable.
I'm using an A7iv, and I just recently started using it. So far it's fantastic for most of what I do, and a fair step above when I had before.
I do a lot of action shooting at firearms ranges, and lighting conditions can vary between bright daylight with clear skies to overcast nights when we do low light work. I don't think there is any good solution for scenarios where we're using night vision equipment other than adapting a night vision monocular, but it would be cool to be able to get clearer video when we have some ambient lighting.
I'll try playing around with some settings, and see if I can work in some additional light when we want to take video, as well as play around with the picture profiles for the more extreme use cases.
@@Wolf_1775 In low light, I had the best results noise wise with PP02, but the highlights were also much dimmer. I actually prefer shooting in no profile at the moment because it has a good balance of noise and brightness. S-Cinetone is worth a look, too, but I am not good at grading it yet.
I forgot to mention that I push the highlights, white levels and shadows in post and crush the darkest areas. It adds a bit of noise in the highlights, but it is managable and allows me to use a lower ISO while filming. I am using the Sigma 28-70mm F2.8 because it allows me to zoom in at a constant exposure. I imagine with a lens like the Sony 20mm F1.8 I would be able to film at a much lower ISO. Perhaps it is also worth a try for you.
Could the same be said for C-Log?
How about banding in the sky?
we need a 10hr cut of Matt dancing
😂😂😂
I've used Neat Studio before and it crushed my pour little processor. It does work but it's a brutal amount of work going on when it does it thaang 😬
Definitely recommend trying the latest version if you can, the GPU acceleration helps a ton
@@whoismatt - Will do. Thanks for all that you do. Love your work!
I have big bug with neat with slowmotion, do you have too? E
Hey Matt! I cannot open h.265 / HEVC codec/ XAVC HS on windows 11/ adobe premiere pro or any other app. It seems to be a common problem by my research. I tried to download everything I could find - paid or free - but I cannot solve this. Do you have a solution to this problem? So far, I can only open XAVC S.
Hey! I have a video showing how to do this in windows
8:55 Neat Video; Thanks Matt
I have followed your settings for S Log 3 from other video, i have done exposure 2 stop plus. But i am still facing same issue noise in shadows. Can u suggest me fix. I am using Sony A7 Siii .
Try dropping your shadows a bit darker? Or you could try running neat video. :)
@@whoismatt Thanks, but I am still thinking why I am still getting this. I will always get grains in shadows . Or I can try something
In my humble opinion Topaz Video Enhance Ai is better solution for de noise :) Of course it requires time to rerender the material but the final effect is great
Lol, It's not better if it does not fit in your workflow. And for majority of ppl indefinite waiting does not fit.
S cinetome for me. Aint got no time for this😂🤣
S Cinetone is so great!
why is my footage getting more grainy if i reduce the shadows
Neat Video is amazing, but Matt wasn't joking when he said to wait until the end of your editing process to apply it. Listen to him.
😂👍
One thing is it has you make a box does that just fix the box? What if you want whole image to be fixed?
It fixes the whole image :)
@@whoismatt Why would it have resizing the box?
Me simple. Me see post u. Me thumbs up 👍
I’ve tried your mattflat 2.0 with my a6600 but it’s noisy when I look at the video. I don’t have a camera monitor so I use my a6600 connector to my pc via a cam link 4k and open it in OBS,, the noise is very apparent. I have a amaran 200x as my key light and a amaran 60x as my hair light. But the video is still noisy even after I’ve over exposed and used my zebras. What picture profile would you recommend for an a6600.
For an a6600 I would use cine4 with sgamut3.cine (Mattflat 1.0) but if you’re running it into a computer you wouldn’t be able to color grade it so I would use standard profile with the color effect set to neutral.
@@whoismatt I checked the settings and that’s what I was using but I could not shake the noise. I was using the sigma 18-35 at 4k 30p. My lights set to 22 percent for both air and key lights, my room is dark, but I have 4 Aputure B7c lighting it. I used a grey card for custom white balance and turned on zebras. The image was noisy and I could see it on my monitor screen. The only reason I have it connected to my computer, is so that I could see if the the image out of the camera was clean.
Try Cine 2, ISO 100 and increase the light intensity on your subject.
@@rsmith02 thank you very much I’ll try
@@MrGone60 I use the same camera and get good results with it!
You can also use zebras for standard + range to make sure you're getting enough light on the gray card.
hey, do you have refund policy for the purchase of your presets?
If it's footage of Matt dancing.....it's always usable footage
S-log3 did no work for me so far. I did not observe any improvement in color grading or dynamics, it needs higher ISO, and it is ALWAYS noisy (besides the sunny enviroment).
I used "base" ISO 3200 in my a7m4.
For now i will stay with no PP.
Hi Matt!
Would the recommended exposure settings (+1,7 - 2,0) apply for V-LOG on for example panasonic gh6?
Hey! Nope, vlog is completely different
@@whoismatt Thanks for responding. Gotta check out youtube and see if u can find some good info on V-LOG settings then :)
Topaz Video Enhance AI has better noise reduction, and can upscale and increase FPS of video footage as well. I use it a lot with my A7iii to produce 50fps.
I agree, but DaVinci Resolve Studio (paid) is just as good with a little more control for really impossible and difficult shots that need both lifting of shadows and NR.
Topaz is better than Neat. But way, way slower. Neat suits us very well. Resolve doesn’t do as well as either - IMHO.
Can we just talk about your dance moves for a minute?
Here to entertain!
One of about a dozen reasons I don't shoot SLOG. Awful lot of work and risk for 1 extra stop of dynamic range.
0:10 Easier to fix it in The Cloud (i.e. UA-cam upload/download).
UA-cam compression can reduce noise automatically from a video and it’s free 😂🔥
I am getting banding in the sky.
If so reduce level of noise suppression , like turn off spatial and only use temporal denoise, etc
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Why my Sony a6300 has much noise even in bright day light
did you fixed this problem?
97 for some luts???? 🙄
What is that Airplane symbol?
Airplane mode
@@whoismatt Seriously? If so why is it on? Save battery?
@@GratiasK yup
Premiere is just ok at this. Resolve gives WAY better results. Topaz Video Enhance AI also gives good quick results after grading is done.
That footage look like 4 stop under expose, It hurts my eye, And when you tried to fix it, you just made things worse 💔.
For a camera that has only 12mp, it's extremely noisy.
This LUT is very expensive
Must be something wrong with this camera if light meeter shows 0ev and u r totally underexposed
This is how sony designed slog3 to work 🤷♂️
well this doesnt help at all because even with a nice well exposed content, i still have noise.
I don't understand why you keep saying overexposed is "properly" exposed? Proper according to who or what? Certainly not according to Sony, and certainly not according to any technically correct workflow. If you actually "properly" expose (middle grey at 41%) and properly transform to your delivery gamut/gamma (likely REC709 2.4) with a CST or ACES or a technical LUT instead of randomly twiddling curves by eye, you don't need to go through these gyrations.
Sony "proper" exposure has been too dark for a decade+. If you can give it more light you'll avoid noise, even on a decent camera like the a7SIII. Agree on the three approaches to get from Log back to REC 709. The Leeming LUT technical LUT also involves a brighter exposure.
@@rsmith02 Why just do it the way Sony engineers designed it to work and use proper CSTs with one click when you can dick around with time-consuming, difficult to monitor hacks from random internet goofs.
Slog is kind of a waste of time if you’re shooting specifically for web delivery. Just my opinion.
If you need to use NeatVideo for lots of footage in your video, it simply means you need to really work on your videography shooting with SLOG3 😂
That's like the 3rd sentence he says in this video.
Extra work, damn.
😂😂
Why does it take you four minutes to get to the point
just download the free and open source Handbrake to denoise like a pro
Free yes, but "denoise like a pro" .. 😅, no
I don't agree - 2 stops overexpose is no longer necessery with 10 bit Slog3 from a7sIII or Fx6 - especially if you use Phantom LUTS. just expose normally, drag and drop LUT and no noise. What's more this built in exposure meter in A7sIII is totally not accurate. And third: noone would use footage like the example in this video (plant on the left totally in dark, so there will always be noise).
Of course it will have noise and bit depth and noise has no connection. Ideally you'd increase lighting or open up the aperture to give the sensor more light.
I completely am lost by this s-log 3. To shoot two stops over Is completely not intuitive, and frankly is ridiculous. like shooting a non-reflex motion film camera. What am I missing here. and the amount of fixing it in post is really concerning and again, non intuitive. For those using this camera, what other setting would you use...for this upcoming shoot, they want to shoot on this dumb camera. I just need to shoot clean video of an interview.
$97 for 6 luts......? You're out of your mind along with anyone buying that nonsense lmfao
Bro wat are you talkin about jerry phd luts are 125$
@@SammynTommyTv that's stupid as fuck, make your own
Good video thx,for Canon c log ? v log?
The plugin I talk about towards the end of the video should fix any footage
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