HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF - Teardown, re-assembly and upgrade
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- In this video, I'll cover the HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF and I'll perform a full teardown + re-assembly of the machine. Once complete, I'll do some benchmarking and gaming to test the GeForce 1050Ti that came with it.
In the video, I will first completely disassemble the machine, then re-assemble it and install a few upgrades. Once the machine is back together, I'll run some benchmarks with Geekbench and we will check how it performs in Microsoft Flight Simulator and GTA V.
You can use this video if you want to replace your CPU, RAM, SSD, video card or anything else.
My EliteDesk 800 G3 has an Intel i7 7700, a Nvidia 1050 Ti, 16 GB of DDR4 RAM and a 256GB NVMe SSD.
i like how hp just took the 400 and 600 series SFF computers and just made it wider
where did you get the standoff screws for the HDD? are they proprietary?
This guy is so underrated and his accent just gives me comfort too
Just ordered a refurbished one off of Amazon today to host my own Minecraft server! The only difference with mine is that it has a 6th Gen Intel Core i5 and a 128GB NVMe SSD.
Add more storage, a gpu and if possible (Ik it’s difficult) upgrade psu so that you can have potential for different graphics cards. Also should probably give it some fresh thermal paste and make sure everything is plugged in and seated correctly
What in the world are the screws your using for the hdd? I've tried searching for hdd mounting screws and ordered two different sets but the heads are too small to slide in the bracket.
did you find out?
Nice review 😀
What kind of screws did you use for standoffs? I'm planning on building a server in this machine, but the information on that appears frustratingly scarce.
Hi, how many watts is that power supply? I have an hp prodesk 600 g3 sff and I have thought about buying the same graphics card that you are using, but my power supply is 180w platinum. so I don't know if it really works for me at least in the medium term without burning the power supply or the graphics card
The power supply in mine is/was also 180W. This should be sufficient for the CPU and 1050Ti.
What's the name of the screws used for the HDD at 11:25?
Can I upgrade my HP 800 g3 sff i5-6500..exact like u done on g3 i7? Tq bro..very inspiring video..👍👍
Should be possible, yes. As far as I read, you can even upgrade to an i7-7700 at max.
Thank you for the video. Do you think there is a space to put 4 3.5" HDDs? I don't have a separate GPU in the case. Thanks
Two times 3,5" would be the absolute maximum. There is no other space to leave them and, since the DVD-drive is a slim model, even removing that won't help you I'm afraid.
in your EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF its M2 SSD or M2 NVME? thanks for the video
Its an NVMe drive
thanks@@jensdbe
I know im late for this video 😅
I have a plan of removing everything inside, and make it like a console wannabe pc, with better parts, like mobo, psu, gpu...
Do you think it's possible?
I'm really about to go get it... 😅
Edit:
Also 3D print a different back plate/shield so a new mobo and psu could be installed, but still connect the usbs and the rest from the front!
For gaming should o go i7-8700 16g ram max or i7-7700 32g ram max? Ones a g3 the first is a g4
This is a tough one to answer. Depending on the game and resolution you are playing ok, if you are tight with the 16GB of memory, then increasing that will boost performance. On the other hand if you are not running out, a better CPU is a better choice. I'd say go for the i7 8700, monitor memory consumption and upgrade if needed. It's generally easier to upgrade the memory in comparison with the CPU as that has to be replaced.
Is the cpu cooler upgrade?
I have this model but i5gen7 can i upgrade to i7gen7
Sure, that should not be any problem.
Hi, thank you for this video, one small question, can I add one more ssd nvme, to get two ssd?
There is only a single slot on the motherboard that works for storage. Another option, if you want NVMe is to add a PCIe card with NVMe slot. Or if you have enough with the performance of a SATA SSD, you can also add one of those.
@@jensdbe Thank you for your prompt response
que tipo de memoria ram instalaste? Cualquier ddr4 a 2400mhz serviria? saludos
Tengo 2x8 DDR4 3000 MHz. Trabajan rapido!
Can you use this EliteDesk model to run VMs, and do out-of-band management? What upgrades do I need to make for these to work? Or which micro server is ideal for these capabilities?
The specs allow it to run a bunch of VMs, depending a bit on your needs and how resource-hungry they will be. Out-of-band management is not so easy. You could install a second network card but if the host-OS is down, you would still not be able to reach it. The approach I have for a regular PC which I used as a NAS is to have it connected to a smartplug (which I can remotely enable/disable) and set the BIOS to always boot after power loss. Thay way, in case the machine is locked up, I can at least remotely reboot it :)
@@jensdbe Thank you for the response !
This motherboard support i5 8500 ???
Only 7th generaration Intel Core CPUs are supported so the i5 8500 will most likely not work.
Is it possible to add an additional disk to this motherboard ?
There are 3 SATA ports, so you could add up to 3 disks if you can live without the DVD drive.
Hi, in this computer can i install one 2.5 gigabit ethernet adapter?
Shouldn't be a problem. Just make sure it is a low profile card so it physically fits in the machine.
Can this PC as is withstand having a 400w power supply?
It does not have a standard ATX form factor and connector so a regular 400W PSU does not fit.
Hello thx for the video i want to ask if gtx 1650 can fit in?
GTX 1650, as long as it is a low profile card, should work fine in this machine. That will boost performance quite a bit.
@@jensdbe thats why am asking i wanna know if its low profil or no pls
@@fatimaazhare7102 there are different models of GTX 1650 from different manufacturers. Some of these are low-profile, others are not. You will need to check for a specific model.
@@jensdbe the small ones?
Can anyone please tell me k
If there is any molex connector from PSU ?
Is it true that it comes with a t1050i on Amazon?? Please awnser me kind sir
It can have different configurations so no guarantee that it is there by default. It would have to be explicitly mentioned.
So to get this clear they all can come with different specs right? So the seller isn't lying confirm please
@@Malek_XD you can easily change CPU, memory, drives and PCIe cards so a lot of configurations are possible alongside all variations which HP offered in the machine originally. If the seller writes that he put in a 1050Ti, he/she probably did that. But I can't tell if they are lying or not off course :)
@@jensdbe well thanks for the information I subscribed!
The GPU is ddr3 ?
The GPU has GDDR5
Regular memory is DDR4
Is this Windows 11 supported or are you stuck on 10?
In theory not officially supported but you can definitely use one of the workarounds available to get it installed. The performance is great on this machine for Windows 11.
Did a few videos on that subject as well. You can find them here:
- Upgrade Windows 11 22H2 from Windows 10: ua-cam.com/video/GI2B5H2tYLs/v-deo.html
- Fresh install of Windows 11: ua-cam.com/video/iPc4Tmhv-1o/v-deo.html
@@jensdbe Thank you so much!! Great content btw!!!
Hi, do you know what screws are needed for the m.2 drive? I can't find the correct size in the manual.
Please and thank you for the help
Not sure, my best guess would be a 3mm screw (M2). I saw that there were various kits to order online with a collection of various M.2 screws.
This board can it handle 32gb of ram if you add 2 8gb ….to the 2 8gb existing to make it 32gb
The perfect demonstration video for the HP EliteDesk 800 G3. Thanks!
also HP so cheep , un like dell, the HP has no NVME Screw unless you ordered it with the nvme, lol , had to go back to computer store and get standard NVME screw,
Do i look concerned mah booiii?! We're gaming on a budget 😂
cooler master fan. So someone actually did work to that thing. Respectable build.
more than 10 times watching this good video.. thanks it was very helpful
dang...that would make a nice sleeper gamer i7, SSD, 4GB 1050... I could live with that all day...
Buy the rtx a2000. Makes for the ultimate sleeper
The one I bought didn’t have a gpu so I bought a 1650 4GB.
I run csgo at ~300 fps. Although the gpu struggles with heat, under full load it likes to sit at 85C which from what I understand is throttled. I’m currently trying to increase case airflow to fix that
@@whybndsuyou might have to cut the metal housing that folds into the computer there to fit bigger gpus running into this issue with a Lenovo with the same concept of folding the cage down
You saved me! I was confused whether the black ram slots are channel A and the whites are B 😂
Now I am confident that I can go for an RX 6400 for this PC since it only draws 55w compared to 75w in 1050. Thanks for the video bud ❤
Did it fit?
thank uso much sir full wach ur Video very good explane so super 🥰🥰🥰
Thank you very much. Just for reference, I installed an ASUS GEFORCE GTX 1650 4GB low profile, double fan. The twist is: I had to cut a piece of the chassis where hard drive are located (a 4cmx4cm square) because the card is too long.
I also installed an internal ssd (samsung 990 pro) and 32gb corsair RAM. Looking to upgrade it from i5 to i7 7700, just wondering if it can handle a 7700k.
But it's worth the job
Is this on the stock motherboard. I'm thinking of getting an Asus Z170 so I can overclock. Unless you know another way.
I live in Australia & saw one on marketplace for $145 with the 7700 & 8gb ram & 256gb nvme drive, thinking of building an emulation machine with a sparkle intel arc a380 6gb LP but have to find out which psu this one has first. I recently built a mid range matx small tower that is purely for current games, 12G i5, RTX4070, 16GB D4 3200, 1tb gen4 nvme. Will be slapping a 2tb gen3 in there too soon.
Here is my ultimate HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF Upgrade project: h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Business-PCs-Workstations-and-Point-of-Sale-Systems/Upgrading-HP-EliteDesk-800-G3-SFF/td-p/8251218
Specifications: fitted with an Intel i7-7700K, 32GB (4 x 8 GB) of Samsung M378A1K43CB2-CRC (PC4-19200 running at 2400 MHz) RAM, primary (boot) drive: SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen 4 Gaming M.2 SSD, secondary drive: Samsung 870 QVO 1TB (SATA SSD), tertiary drive: Seagate BarraCuda 2TB Internal Hard Drive HDD - 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB Cache, RTX 3080 OC Edition Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6X, LHR), secondary power supply unit synced to power the GPU: AresGame AGK850 850W Fully Modular 80Plus Gold Certified PSU.
So far [June 5th, 2022], the fastest of its kind as per UserBenchMark: www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/52135692
The sky is the limit folks. Just think outside the box -literally so!
i have the Prodesk version that comes with a dedicated GPU too, its bang for the buck work machine
Your channel's content is wonderful and instructive. I always put a passive heatsink on the SHPs that you don't have. Thanks for the videos
Thanks a lot for the nice feedback :)
I find the fan that I replaced to be pretty silent but passive is always better. Using a SSD makes already a huge difference versus a classic hard disk to begin with.
Easiness of tearing down that these branded sff prebuilds have is too cool to be that rare in custom builds.
a shame these dont support windows 11 with the 7th gen, super fast computer boots in 2 seconds after bios with good nvme, gen 4 i put, get max gen 3 speed and crucial site recommends it also gen 4 has many improvements not just speed, ie host memory buffer etc, ,fully backwards compat and cheaper now
Do those stand-off screws have rubber sleeves or its just metal on metal mount? And if it is metal on metal, is that from the factory like that or 3rd party screws?
I have this one with I7-7700 32 GB ram and T600 and it's a beast !
Thanks. Now i see its true power
its actually a solid pc. If I can upgrade the graphics somehow and even get half the potential of a 660 ti with barely any power draw. I can run the games I play with multiple tabs on solid graphic settings no problem.
what’s a t600?
@@cIeetz HP 800 G3 TWR I7 16 GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, GEFORCE GTX 1060 3 GB. IS this good for 577$ USD or is it to much for it ?
@@toni2972 too much might as well save a little more and get something way better
I'm trying to get a new graphics card for this computer, but basically every single 1050 I find has the DVI port in a different spot. Is that a problem? Will a graphics card with the DVI port in a different area still work on this computer?
That shouldn't be an issue at all. Doesn't really matter as long as tou have a low profile card.
whats the power supply wattage and were you able to reuse the ram stick
Can i fit the amd rx 580 in that pc
As far as I know there are no low profile variants of RX 580 cards. That means they will not physically fit into this case. Also, an RX 580 can draw up to 185W, which is way too much for the power supply.
I have a question about powersupply, is there a 300w or more powersupply that is compatible with this computer ?
TWR is 500W
hey nice video, btw im gonna ask can the psu handle regular 1050?
also can i use to bit more powerfull GPU such as 1070?
The EliteDesk 800 G3 has only a 180W power supply. The most consuming graphical card it comes with from the factory is a GT730, which takes around 40W. A 1050 Ti takes around 75W so that should be within the safety margin.
A 1070 on the other hand easily does the double (~150W) so that's really too much for that PSU. You would also miss the 6/8 pin connector that such GPU needs.
Upgrading the PSU won't be an easy task as well I'm afraid.
@@jensdbe thanks mate
I have a 800 g3 running a Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GB GDDR6 Graphics Card. So far so good. I use obs to live stream with a mic,4kcam link from elgato and a hd60s+ as well. So far no issues. Only upgraded the memory with the gpu
@@interpolfallen4159 so basically as the GPU must be under 75w heh thanks bro
And I just changed the hd60s+ for a 4k60pro with low profile bracket through pcie. It fits perfect and no issues.
What’s the rating of the psu?
It has an 80 PLUS Platinum - 180 W power supply
New subscriber looking for advice..
The PC spec in question details are: HP Elitedesk 800 G3 Small Form Factor PC. Intel Core i7-7700 processor. 16GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM. 500GB x2=1tb SSD
Windows 11
Samsung 860 EVO NAND-SSD. Optical disc drive. Built in 1Gbps ethernet port. No wireless card but Wi-Fi dongle. Integrated graphics
There are 2 free RAM slots and the motherboard supports 64GB RAM
My question is would upgrading the RAM make it better eg.. 32 RAM 3200 mhz with like a crucial 32gb secondhand??
And also
Would putting in a dedicated graphics card like a Msi gt 1030 secondhand help it too??
Trying to understand how it can be improved, I don’t know if it would cope with music software like ableton and gaming well or not, please could you help me understand if these ideas to make it better would be a good idea or not? If it would work? And if it would be capable for these things?
Sorry if I didn’t word it well I just tried to give as much info as I could.
I absolutely loved watching this video and will continue to watch videos here thank you for posting and look forward to your reply 🙂👍🏻
Thanks for the video! Do you think its possible to keep 2x 3.5" HDDs inside the box? Considering it as a NAS
Two drivers should fit next to each other.
Did you ever go through with this? i want to do the same
@@overratedprogrammer I did not, sorry.
How many watts in boite alimentation Is it enough for that compilation
amazing video, your voice is very relaxing and also i really like these oem desktops being turned into a semi gaming pc, i had a hp elitedesk 800 g1 and turned mine into a gaming pc haha.
HI, i'm thinking in one of this machines to a home NAS with Unraid, i would use the NVME drive and two 3,5 HD to storage, is it possible to have two 3,5 Hard Drives on this thing? Thank you
Hello... What a great video! It's very instructive. But, i'm wondering, would it possible to replace the stock heatsink with either Cryorig C7 or Noctua L9i? Both have a backplate that must be installed on the back side of the motherboard..
I think that the only option for such heatsink would be to remove or to bend down the lifted mounts on the bottom of the case. As you can see at ua-cam.com/video/n1ETa3mJ85I/v-deo.html These would prevent you from mounting that backplate or the board would end up too high. Keep in mind as well that the case is limited in height so you might want to check if your heatsink+fan would fit in the limited space.
Would that be possible to put 2 3.5in hdd in this machine? There are 3 sata ports... would power be sufficient?
A typical HD uses around 10W so I don't think that would be an issue.
If my machine works fine with that 1050Ti, those hard disks should definitely work :)
You should repaste the thermal paste on the GPU? and see if that helps cooling temps???...and maybe add at least one more case fan to draw air past the gpu??
both would be interesting to see if that helps? do one at a time of course?? 🇨🇦🤓✌️
hey man great video! how many hard drives can you fit on this device ?
If I remember correct, it fits 2x 3,5" drives, 1x 2,5" and off course the NVMe drive.
you really did the great job Sir U enlight a ray of light to make people more enthusiastic realistic and practical your work really progress the future and knowledge of youth I just try to thanks that we really owe you Sir Thanks
what the chipset built in the PC?
Love the video, so easy to follow. How much RAM can this take?
As far as I know it can take up to 64GB of RAM
Is that possible to upgrade to i7 8th or 9th generation? I have one, i5 6th gen, 8gb and 120gb ssd. Planning future upgrades… Thank you for ur answer.
I was so confused how you got thr cover on so easily but then I realized the tab was just bent and thats why I couldn't get the cover on lol
What form factor would I have to get to replace this GPU?
You can replace the GPU, it's only that the power supply is not overly powerful which makes your choice for a replacement relatively limited. A GTX1650 or RX6400 would do fine in here.
Just bought one and looking forward to tinkering with it. Does the case support putting in 2.5” SSD drives?
There is a space left from the 3,5" drive bay. You do need the "special" screws to go in the SSD as it is held into place with those. Enjoy playing around with it.
@@jensdbe Great, thanks for the help!
I've read in their docs that the PCI express slot is limited to 35w. Can it handle that GPU?
Hellow bro Is it possible to replace the power supply with a genereic one ? And put 4 pieces or 8gb ram
What make/model is the motherboard?
Will an Gigabyte RTX4060 8G OC Low Profile fit?
I'm afraid that the power supply will not be able to handle this as it requires 130W
when you up grade processor can you please use i9 1151 socket?
i am asking you because I am not sure
can i put an rx6400 in it?
if i change to news pc case,which motherbpard should i buy?
Any ideas how to install a frontal cooler fan to intract air? Temperatures 90°C while gaming is the only issue of this HP g3 prodesk design
I don't really see how a fan could fit in the front. I guess for proper gaming this case is just not big enough.
I have this same system with a GTX 1050, and it is running very loudly and the computer turns off with a small shake from my table. Is there anything I can do to make my computer quieter and more stable?
I'd check the fans, maybe replace them with a silent version. After time, some of these tend to become pretty loud, as was the case with me as well. Also removing dust and replacing the thermal past could help.
Will this graphic card work with a 180W? The nvidia's website says 300w as recommended.
does this have an upgraded PSU? I heard the 1050 Ti has too much power and the most it could take is a 1030 LP . I also seen a 1030 LP video where buddies computer wouldnt run it. If it runs a 1050 ti I'd probably put one in it.
This was the standard power supply as far as I know. It is 180W and a 1050Ti would require around 75W. This leaves enough for the rest of the components.
Thank you for that do you know if there is a f usb connection?
There is a front USB connector on the motherboard, no header to connect something else externally though.
Great job thanks for sharing
Good one, thank you sir!
So I wonder
I'm looking at a 6th generation i5 version and I wonder if it has a nvme slot on the motherboard
Nice video! I m thinking to upgrade my i7-7700 but dont find any path. Any idea?
i7 7700 should work fine as it originally also came with this CPU
jensd_be any better CPU can be used on the motherboard?
@@minervali9436 i7-7700 is the highest it came with from the factory/HP. Better might work but needs to be tested in order to find out.
Hello, need to ask about PSU! Is it 250W?
I have G3 600 with i5 7500, 16GB DDR4, SSD 256MB+1TB SSD Samsung an di want GTX 1050Ti put inside.
Is generic PSU 250W enough?
Thanks in advance
In my version, the PSU was 180W only. A 1050 Ti would consume around 75W so should be doable with the rest of the components. Looks pretty much the same as I had in mine so I don't expect any problems for you with a 1050Ti.
what size is the mobo?
Hello friend, i have this machine but it's the Tower version. My question is, can i change the CPU cooler into a Tower cpu cooler (ID Cooling SE 902)? Thankyou
Model of your GPU please
Good afternoon
Please how can find serial number ?
Thank you.
Hello, does it have connection/pin for extra external fan? And strip led, Where can i connect it?
Is it possible to add a Thunderbolt 3 PCIe card low-profile ?
Sure, that shouldn't be an issue as far as I know
@@jensdbe Thank you for your answer. Would you recommand any ? I`m struggling to find one :)
Well technical documentation said all the 2 pcie 16 have only 35w max. That's not true so, it deliver true 75 watt since you plug a 1050ti
True, best way to test is to just try it (and hope it doesn't go wrong :) )
Could you play ps2 games in 1080p on this machine?
Hi... Great Video ❤ detailed assemble overview... I'm using the same machine... Can u please upload a short video on CMOS battery replacement... Because in this machine the way is different from Rest 😔
hello, and GeForce GTX 1070 will go in place 1050
I have the pc but I did not get a the Graphics card 🤔
It was not standard as far as I know. You could add it as an option when ordering the machine.
This PC can have 64GB DDR4 RAM
Correct
hi i got a hp pro desk 600 g3 but i don't know if it's compatible with 8th gen cpu ? What do you thin ? thank you
The fastest CPU that is compatible as per your Q270 chipset with your HP ProDesk 600 G3 Small Form Factor is the 7th gen Intel i7-7700 -maybe the i7-7700K.
do HP Elitedesk 800 G4 SFF support aftermarket ram stick like hyperX 8gb ?
As long as the RAM matches the type and speed, it typically works. The days from Compaq where you really needed branded memory are fortunately gone.