@@LinuxInvictus i'll probably just use it for my websrv running in vm. I'll probably even have Copyleft MyBusiness running on Linux NOT gnu. and then email stallman with the link... I'd even give him my phone number, so I can hear the pain in his voice.....I'd record it too...that kind of thing should be shared.... If i experiement with bare metal, it'll have to be another system not the main. I'm too happy with how things are going. I haven't had a major issue in months, and i'm not breaking that. :D Also not a huge fan of flatpaks, not against them, but don't like the idea of having things installed multiple times. I get confused enough as it is... and I like gaming. and steam should be on a flatpak, under alpine. so meh.
XFCE taking up 415 is a tradeoff I'm willing to make. On my old Asus EeePC that previously had 1GB of ram (upgraded to 2, big spender, I know), dealing with IceVM was just a big too annoying in AntiX.
Love the content. And the sarcasm. But... The background music is voice upon voice, so your voice drowns out and it's really hard to follow what you're saying. Some non-voice music would thus be better. Hope you fix this in the future, cuz I really liked your content!
You can just avoid sudo entirely and work as doas, it does basically the same stuff unless you are messing around with your kernal and is a much smaller memory footprint. Alpine rocks, I use it on a rooted chromebook. The only downside is the use of musl instead of glibc, you get just the basics but if you add the gcompat package it can translate it.
using sudo for everything isn't too hard of a habit to break.... You'll learn soon enough. When you realize what you've done, and have to revert, or worse...
@athf226 the time was right. Its just that all Canadian cities come up as America. It's kinda funny but makes sense when you realize it should just say "americas" instead of america
Did you find a need to use `sudo`, or just use it because everyone says to use it, instead of just switching to root? From the second year of using Linux I didn't see any point in using sudo, and started switching to root with `su` when needed, and have been doing so for the past five years.
I may have a use for this. Although I have used Debian(v9 or v10) minimal server mostly out of the box on VMs that were only allocated 90MB of memory, it would run with less but it needed 90 to boot [swap may be able to cover that difference I don't recall testing that]. Most of my busybox experience is managing a linux based OS on a semi-embedded server appliance. BB is OK where resources are limited and you are just doing occational setup and managment of a set and forget system, but I would regularly run into cases where full-fat utilities would have made the job easier. Even though BB has utils with the same name as GNU counterparts, the BB version often lacks a number of useful options. (The server in question had a 1gHz single core arm SOC, with 128MB ram. 12w active and 4.4w idle with drive parked.)
@@LinuxInvictus An older synology with DSM-5 OS. Primarilly intended as NAS but being a custom linux distro it had a lot of other services and features, and it could be administered via web gui or ssh with busybox (each with tradeoffs of course).
@zherka_pill Alpine is getting a lot more use in the server space, it's made for lightweight applications, like raspberry pis, or old pcs. Was originally built for routers iirc
But having all the user land apps, even without gnu libc and services becomes the OS + kernel, and most of them are GNU GPL licenses thus GNU. And the kernel is GNU GPL licensed thus again the kernel becomes part of GNU.
not really how it works. gnu is a project on it's own, with hundreds of apps under it's umbrella. mostly sys admin type shit,(hence stallmans ego trip) but a few user apps too. don't confuse gpl with gnu. they aren't the same. and yes, i understand how you might think that, but the use of a gnu public license, doesn't mean it's gnu. as the use of mozilla or mit license, does not make those projects mozzilla or mit....
@@LinuxInvictus as much as stallman likes to ego trip, he's not the end all and be all of gnu. we all die someday, and I don't think he takes very good care of himself. (I could be wrong tho, just he has that look about him, but I don't like to judge) I see him more and more as old man shaking fist at the clouds. And not a lot of relevance. (sometimes, but even a broken clock is right twice a day)
I think that unless you are a huge corpo that can just push it on millions of devices (like with Google Android), Linux with userland other than GNU is doomed to fail. GNU/Linux ecosystem is simply too vast to fight at this point with resources of a small team.
openrc has been around for a long time. as has busybox. (which is licensed under gpl 2.0) I think you can still run gentoo with openrc if you you want. And who's fighting? I dont understand everything has to be a competition. Some things work better for some people. There isn't a huge amount of people working on linux vr, yet in the past year, it's become quite usable. I think you underestimate the resources of a small team..... especially when built on the backs of many others work.
@TheCurtisnixon for they were all deceived, another kernel was made. In the fires of a 386 in Helsinki Linus poured all his autism into the one kernel to rule them all. Except bsd that's a different kernel
rms screaming makes me happy. and as for being the strongest opinion on rms, there's probably a thousand who feel just as strongly. The level of derision that person attracts. so bloody childish. I want to install this, just so I can say, i'm using linux, not gnu, and not just i'm using linux. (or arch lol)
Bear in mind RMS was so stupid he went down for epsteins Island despite never going there himself all because he couldn't keep his mouth shut when his friend was forced to resign from MIT
I don't know how I got this in my recommended, but I was trying to figure out where that chorus came from for a minute. Digging your vibe ^^
i tried alpine on my old laptop and it was amazing
but for hyprland losers like me it's not a good choice
It is 👌
very interesting. I'm seriously thinking of switching, just so I can hear rms.
@@TheCurtisnixon I'm going to install it on real hardware soon
@@LinuxInvictus i'll probably just use it for my websrv running in vm. I'll probably even have Copyleft MyBusiness running on Linux NOT gnu. and then email stallman with the link... I'd even give him my phone number, so I can hear the pain in his voice.....I'd record it too...that kind of thing should be shared....
If i experiement with bare metal, it'll have to be another system not the main. I'm too happy with how things are going. I haven't had a major issue in months, and i'm not breaking that. :D
Also not a huge fan of flatpaks, not against them, but don't like the idea of having things installed multiple times. I get confused enough as it is... and I like gaming. and steam should be on a flatpak, under alpine. so meh.
XFCE taking up 415 is a tradeoff I'm willing to make. On my old Asus EeePC that previously had 1GB of ram (upgraded to 2, big spender, I know), dealing with IceVM was just a big too annoying in AntiX.
I agree. It's just sad that even DE's that try to be light are still getting fatter. No fault of xfce, as most of it is decisions from gnome
Love the content. And the sarcasm. But... The background music is voice upon voice, so your voice drowns out and it's really hard to follow what you're saying. Some non-voice music would thus be better. Hope you fix this in the future, cuz I really liked your content!
Thanks for the advice. That's actually something I'll try because I've been experimenting with the background music a lot
Great instructional video, but yeah........could have done without the Gregorian chanting in the background. :)
@MikeBear Yeah, I've been playing around with background tracks a lot. I love gregorian chant but voice on voice causes issues.
You can just avoid sudo entirely and work as doas, it does basically the same stuff unless you are messing around with your kernal and is a much smaller memory footprint. Alpine rocks, I use it on a rooted chromebook.
The only downside is the use of musl instead of glibc, you get just the basics but if you add the gcompat package it can translate it.
Yeah you can, and I intend to try that. Just sudo is what I am used to.
@@LinuxInvictus just alias it and forget about it
using sudo for everything isn't too hard of a habit to break.... You'll learn soon enough. When you realize what you've done, and have to revert, or worse...
I took your advice. I like doas
Did it set your time zone correctly or was it off by 1? There is also a Halifax in Virginia, but the time zone would be GMT-4 instead of GMT-3
@athf226 the time was right. Its just that all Canadian cities come up as America. It's kinda funny but makes sense when you realize it should just say "americas" instead of america
Did you find a need to use `sudo`, or just use it because everyone says to use it, instead of just switching to root?
From the second year of using Linux I didn't see any point in using sudo, and started switching to root with `su` when needed, and have been doing so for the past five years.
@the_original_dude honestly after this video I've switched to using doas even on artix. I like doas much more
I may have a use for this. Although I have used Debian(v9 or v10) minimal server mostly out of the box on VMs that were only allocated 90MB of memory, it would run with less but it needed 90 to boot [swap may be able to cover that difference I don't recall testing that].
Most of my busybox experience is managing a linux based OS on a semi-embedded server appliance. BB is OK where resources are limited and you are just doing occational setup and managment of a set and forget system, but I would regularly run into cases where full-fat utilities would have made the job easier. Even though BB has utils with the same name as GNU counterparts, the BB version often lacks a number of useful options.
(The server in question had a 1gHz single core arm SOC, with 128MB ram. 12w active and 4.4w idle with drive parked.)
@mytech6779 interesting. I don't have as much experience with busybox. What kind of server was it?
@@LinuxInvictus An older synology with DSM-5 OS. Primarilly intended as NAS but being a custom linux distro it had a lot of other services and features, and it could be administered via web gui or ssh with busybox (each with tradeoffs of course).
@@mytech6779 that sounds like a really cool projexy5
Great content man keep it up
Appreciate it
I just have a question. Who uses alpine. And for what. Example Debian used for servers. Arch is used by hobbyist...???
@zherka_pill Alpine is getting a lot more use in the server space, it's made for lightweight applications, like raspberry pis, or old pcs. Was originally built for routers iirc
@@LinuxInvictuscool I thought it's that distro nobody uses. btw thanks for the info man...
@@zherka_pill It's is more niche.
Alpine is also widely used on docker containers.
Alpine is often used in Docker containers, among other things, due to how it can be configured to have a very small size.
But having all the user land apps, even without gnu libc and services becomes the OS + kernel, and most of them are GNU GPL licenses thus GNU. And the kernel is GNU GPL licensed thus again the kernel becomes part of GNU.
@@DamjanDimitrioski yeah perhaps we should change the name of the license. Get away from that weird creeper Stallman.
not really how it works. gnu is a project on it's own, with hundreds of apps under it's umbrella. mostly sys admin type shit,(hence stallmans ego trip) but a few user apps too. don't confuse gpl with gnu. they aren't the same. and yes, i understand how you might think that, but the use of a gnu public license, doesn't mean it's gnu. as the use of mozilla or mit license, does not make those projects mozzilla or mit....
@@LinuxInvictus as much as stallman likes to ego trip, he's not the end all and be all of gnu. we all die someday, and I don't think he takes very good care of himself. (I could be wrong tho, just he has that look about him, but I don't like to judge)
I see him more and more as old man shaking fist at the clouds. And not a lot of relevance. (sometimes, but even a broken clock is right twice a day)
You also had canada in the timezones...
but i have to do the same for vancouver occasionally. depends on the distro I find.
Last time I tried on a different distro most cities were not there. So now I usually just look under America as the region and that always works
call me a beardless noob, but i'm curious if this can run Wine and Proton for games, or if thats too much effort
@xymaryai8283 Wine I am not sure, but you can run steam via flatpak so proton should work
It runs both just fine, Lutris too. Flatpaks make it totally usable (make sure to include the gcompat package though for fewer oddities).
@@LinuxInvictus then wine will probably work, at least in the flatpak.
I think that unless you are a huge corpo that can just push it on millions of devices (like with Google Android), Linux with userland other than GNU is doomed to fail. GNU/Linux ecosystem is simply too vast to fight at this point with resources of a small team.
@UltimatePerfection I mean alpine is hardly failing, it's actually doing quite well.
@@LinuxInvictus Well for an enthusiast distro, but nowhere close to the likes of Arch, Ubuntu, or even openSuSE.
openrc has been around for a long time. as has busybox. (which is licensed under gpl 2.0) I think you can still run gentoo with openrc if you you want. And who's fighting? I dont understand everything has to be a competition. Some things work better for some people. There isn't a huge amount of people working on linux vr, yet in the past year, it's become quite usable. I think you underestimate the resources of a small team..... especially when built on the backs of many others work.
also, the kernel was created by one man.
@TheCurtisnixon for they were all deceived, another kernel was made. In the fires of a 386 in Helsinki Linus poured all his autism into the one kernel to rule them all. Except bsd that's a different kernel
it took you about 3 1/2 - 4 minutes. probably about a minute fi you didn't explain it all.
@TheCurtisnixon right now I am planing a second video where I put it on hardware and go more indepth
rms screaming makes me happy. and as for being the strongest opinion on rms, there's probably a thousand who feel just as strongly. The level of derision that person attracts. so bloody childish.
I want to install this, just so I can say, i'm using linux, not gnu, and not just i'm using linux. (or arch lol)
Bear in mind RMS was so stupid he went down for epsteins Island despite never going there himself all because he couldn't keep his mouth shut when his friend was forced to resign from MIT
@@LinuxInvictus i think some words are out of order there....not sure what you're saying exactly...
@TheCurtisnixon OH you remember epstein? Yeah rms got canned from the fsf for defending a pedi
@@LinuxInvictus why does that not surprise me..... he reminds more and more of terry davis every day.....
except terry had legit mental; health issues...
114 lol and yea i call it linux ........
network-manager-applet for xfce.