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Missed oppurtunity: Rhel distro when corporate owns your soul, your routine is 9-5, you like the smell of a cubicle, but like a living wage doing Linux stuff all day :D
Man... Linux Mint users get so much flak for being boring, when in reality I just want my OS to get out of my way and let me use my programs with as little hassle as possible and Linux Mint is the king of doing just that.
Exactly. I've been using Linux since the early 90s, sometimes as sysadmin, mostly as a programmer, and I honestly can't remember how many distributions I've used since then (anyone remember Yggdrasil?). In my old age I have way less bandwidth and just want to write my Rust code. And sometimes run games through Steam and have everything work. And run a Plex server on spare 12yo Thinkpad.
It is easier than Ubuntu, but it's a good opposite-of-microsoft experience where the OS doesn't get in the way and try to be all things cloudy and fancy.
@@gobbledygook5011 steamOS v1 and v2 (shipped on the now discontinued steam machines) are Debian based. steamOS v3 (shipped on the steam deck) isn’t public, and is arch based (look at the steam deck tech specs)
Linux Mint is like what WIndows 7 used to be: a solid OS, no ads or tracking, clean interface and a "set it and forget it" type of experience. I love Linux Mint for that, ever since I switched to Linux I have become a regular contributor to the Mint project and I don't plan to ever change OS.
Yep totally agree 100%... I started computing in the 1970's.. had no problem converting from Windows 7 to Mint, via other distros, wanted something 'stable' with no friction... I'm 76.. 🥳🥳🥳🥳
@@Hiroxcds You know Windows 7 isn't an updated OS right? lmao Linux Mint doesn't have the tracking ads and garbage Windows 10 has but it also receives security updates and can run modern applications.
@@Hiroxcds Windows 7 doesn't get security or driver or app updates or any updates at all for that matter lmao. Your performance will be better on Mint especially if you're using new parts which need new drivers to support all the features and get the full speed out of your PC.
"Linux from Scratch: You read an entire dissertation just to fail at compiling your own distro 12x in a row, when you got it to work by some miracle you now started to exclusively use Vim in a TTY because you're too scared a GUI will break your system. You were the kid that wrote their school projects in Junior Year in Haskell, you don't shower because you spend all your time internalizing a 200 page PDF and debugging your compile config"
@@ichihaifu I can confirm. Debian is stable and it is almost install and forget (if you have anacron, which is the case for me). I never managed to break debian, whereas a kinda did it with mint by breaking .Xauthority when my pc crashed :/
One underutilized reason why people use Ubuntu is, because of its popularity, proprietary software is often tested on Ubuntu. Meaning when they say "runs on Linux", they mean "runs on Ubuntu".
sure but it doesn't mean software will break on ubuntu forks or on debian. or on any distro with the right libs added. And there are things like appimage, snap or flatpack to circumvent the hassle of distributing binaries to the whole linux ecosystem.
As an ex-distro-hopper, i can personally confirm that all Linux distros are pretty much the same after you configure them to act and look just how you want them. The only difference in them is how long it takes to get to that point: PopOS: Almost immediately perfect. Ubuntu: Takes slightly more time and effort than Pop. Debian/Fedora: Takes slightly more time and effort than Ubuntu. Arch/Gentoo/Nix: 20 years and counting, pending completion.
Same. Tried almost everything under the sun. Pop just hit all the right spots with the least amount of effort for me. The only complaint I have is the window tiling is a little bit wonky sometimes. Looking forward to Cosmic.
@@starmechlx Yes the window tiling is bad and the "PopShop" is garbage. I'm excited for Cosmic to improve upon these things. I have extremely high hopes for Cosmic. The demos Ive seem are very promising.
That's what I used to say, but I don't believe it anymore. The distro I daily drive is not the one I'd recommend to a friend, and the distro I run on my servers is not the same that runs in production. What you might mean is that differences between distros aren't meaningful enough for desktop use, and I agree with that. When you have various use cases, the differences matter.
I think arch has gotten to the point of being easy to setup because of distros like EndeavourOS which simplify arch a lot without ruining some of its best features like how Manjaro makes using the aur more risky than it already is. Or maybe I'm just biased since I've used arch based distros for a while and can get a satisfactory system running with just an EndeavourOS install.
I use linux mint and none of the traits under the mint section describes me. I am a CSE student who just wants stability in my PC and not to get my PC messed up after a software update while having a reasonably good experience using it. I don't care if i use proprietary stuff or not on bleeding edge as long as I get stuff done and not forced to update my PC at critical times. I do use the terminal and GUI interchangeably.
I don't think people understand the typical Linux Mint user. Is Linux Mint for Grandma? Yes! It's also for millennials who remember how freaking clean Windows XP was and just want to use our computer like we did before Microsoft started adding all these junk features that keep getting in our way. The Linux Mint team understands this, and frankly I think they make the best general purpose Linux Distro out there because they are targeting end users who don't really care how swish their Linux set up is with pointless features to make you look like Neo from the matrix, they just wanna use their programs, like in my case Blender, Gimp, Godot, Codeblocks, etc... where I get actual work done.
If that is what you feel you should just use Tumbleweed instead, btrfs and auto snapshots are on by default, better than Timeshift, and it's not out of date because it's a rolling distro
Hey, good video bro, but I have a question: does anyone here know how to enable all the Excel functions? On my wife's laptop it says that some are disabled.
@@WolfiiDog13 tbh I think I'll try to use nixos. I've been using nix package manager on kubuntu for the last 3 months and so far, it's got me where kubuntu old repos fail me
@@privateagent Me too. I still like the idea of it because of what is possible to learn while going through that process, but no one with a life really has time for it. I have used most popular / meme distros at some point in the last 20 years, starting with building Red Hat servers to learn (before it was corporate property). Have used (for short periods) many weird and more obscure ones too, back when they had a little support (Lunar, SourceMage ...). I work in tech presently and, because I always have work to get done, my daily driver machine runs Pop. Almost everything 'just works' and I have enjoyed tiling window management ever since I first cranked up xmonad many years back.
thank you for the recommendation to low level learning, 30 minutes on that channel and my understanding of low level fundamentals is already remarkably improved, best explanation of void pointers I've ever seen
I installed mint on a media PC today. I don't know a thing about Linux. I just needed it to open a browser page and not have the "activate windows watermark".
My GNU/Linux journey: Windows 10 -> Gentoo No, really, I knew about it for years and knew what I was getting into. When I first saw it, it was love at first sight.
@@americanbagel Not really. Even though I do have a decently old laptop (7 and a half years old), most things take several minutes at best. The only exceptions are: - Chromium - takes about 10 hours when I do nothing with the laptop, more if I do something on the laptop (which I can still do, like watching YT, or play some indie games. Haven't tried doing something more heavy, it should still work, but it would most likely be a bad experience) - Firefox - takes 1.5 - 2 hours since I use clang. Was about 2-3 hours with gcc the first time it was with that, if I remember correctly - nodejs (sometimes a prereq for Firefox. Why, I cannot tell) - also 1.5 - 2 hours. Fortunately it's quite rare, like I think I've done it 3 or 4 times in the 6 months since I have this system. Compiling the Linux kernel takes about 45 minutes if it's new. If I compiled it already then I only change a bit, the recompile might take only a couple of minutes. Yeah, so I only have a bit of stress when I have to compile Chromium. The CPU I have is i7-6700HQ. I can't wait to have a new modern 6 or 8 core CPU, but I'm very very picky and the next perfect laptop for me, that should also last me 7, preferably 10 years, doesn't exist yet :(. Hopefully I'll be lucky with Framework 16 with Arrow Lake next year.
@@americanbagel WTH, somehow my previous answer was deleted ? Anyway, I just compiled Firefox 126.0.1 and this time it took exactly 10 minutes for the 4 dependencies and exactly, very very exactly 1 hour aka 60 minutes for the firefox itself. This is the fastest I remember it being done, usually it's more 1.5 to maybe 2 hours. I'm too lazy to repeat my previous comment, the short gist of it was that most things only take several minutes and the only one that's a bit stressful, usually every 3 weeks or so, is Chromium witch takes 10 hours when I'm doing nothing else and even more if I do other stuff (like YT or light gaming). All others are up to 2 hours.
Almost me 100% except I use Fedora on both desktop and laptop. Also use Alpine for my SMB share but many containers I spin up are also built on alpine.
@@youtube.user.1234gaming in every distro is pretty much the same. Don't listen to those, *choose this distro for gaming blogs*. There are tools that can be ran on pretty much every linux distro that allows for a pretty smooth gaming experience, like Lutris (Wine) and Steam (with Proton). I feel like the only real difference might happen when you have integrated graphics and nvidia dedicated graphics. Nvidia has always been a mess on Linux, i have experienced a lot of issues myself. There are some systems like Fedora in which it is hard to setup things like dynamic kernel modules to manage running both your cpu and gpu graphics. If i am honest, I started gaming on Linux years ago with PopOS, pretty stable, looks nice, and you go the ubuntu/debian package manager. You should use a distro like that. Nowadays I just play in Arch, it's pretty stable, but Arch is still a bit complicated for new people.
You forgot KDE neon: In your core you are old and can't handle later things, yet on the other side you love to get into the latest hassle and trouble for no other reason than getting into trouble.
Distro-hoped every distro since the '90s until my contractor lent me a Mac and I stopped messing with my machine because I had actual work to do. Funny when you realize you open the lid, get into an IDE, CLI, and a Browser, and what's below that didn't really matter so much.
I have the same experience. I can’t say I’ve not been in other types of rabbit holes like nvim, tmux, Zellij, etc. But unless you’re self employed (and building your own thing with your own machine exclusively), most companies I’ve come across just use Mac. For better or worse. It’s a lot of effort to sync configs and package lists across Mac and Linux. One less rabbit hole 🙏
That's... never been my OSX or macOS experience-as a software developer, my process for setting up a new, fresh macbook involves: 1. Queuing up the 1hr download and install of XCode 2. Configuring SSH and DNS settings to not require ".local" for on-network name resolution 3. Installing brew and miniconda 4. Using one of the above to install non-deprecated versions of Python, git, rsync, vim, tmux and bash (the last I admit is a "me" problem for refusing to learn zsh) 5. Making sure Rosetta2 is properly configured 6. Installing a graphical plaintext editor that actually has syntax highlighting 7. Installing a usable IDE 8. Configuring said IDE for remote development into my Linux box or ec2 (obviously this is hyperbolic, and YMMV, but unless you're developing exclusively for mac, macOS hasn't been good for anything beyond thin client work for years)
@@GSBarlev Xcode is the only bad part I can agree. But after I started using xcodes (Xcode version manager ) it got less painful. The rest is me fetching my dotfiles together with that brewfile that save all my installed packages, $brew bundle install and everything is in place.
Alpine Linux in Podman/Docker containers and don't use :latest images and distro does not matter. However I would prefer not try my luck with HW accelerated video playback or wayland on a server. With containers, system inside is basically immutable and your packages do not matter.
@@progCan Most Ubuntu users like snaps or are indifferent as long as they work. I'm using them for Firefox, Thunderbird, VS Code, Netbeans, IntelliJ, Chromium, Powershell, Krita, Upscayl, OnlyOffice and more. And Ubuntu Core, a snap only embedded OS has been a thing since 2016. Not saying snaps don't have some problems, but a lot has been fixed to the point where it doesn't matter for the average user. Perhaps you should spend less time on reddit echochambers.
I run Debian and drive a '97 Honda Prelude sitting at a quarter million miles. I have never felt so accurately called out in my life. I do have smart home devices, and I kinda hate them and have thoughts of getting rid of them. I installed a smart thermostat in my house, but I kept the old dumb thermostat around...just in case. My monitors are so old that they don't have and DP or HDMI ports. Only VGA and DVI here.
I have both. Leap on my main rig and TW on the laptop. I used to do only TW but you really need discipline with updating even if you have restore snapshots. And no, I don't mind using two versions of Plasma.
@@opposite342 I really don't care about their business practices. I chose my OS based off of my needs. I have yet to see a tech company with business practices I agree with. But I still use their tech. Just like we are both still using google.
2:16 so relatable, mr robot was the thing that actually pushed me to actually learn hacking, i was always fascinated by it, but mr robot was the thing that psuhed me
0:46 i just hopped away from fedora to pop on my laptop a week ago. I was debating the distro choice for a good while (why the backup was running) and I came to the conclusion that Pop will be the distro, because of all of the mentioned features. So there are some pop users that focus on them
As someone who has used Ubuntu, then mint, then Fedora, then Pop, then NixOS, then Debian, then back to Pop, and now Universal Blue images; I feel like I've just been diagnosed with multiple personality disorder.
@@bhargavjitbhuyan9394 It feels like you're suffering from PTSD. Unlike me, who's hoped between 2 distros multiple times like I'm suffering from dementia
bro, ngl i like your content, but i'm so used to your 50-90second videos that watching a 5min video feels like i gotta take time out of my day just to watch it(earlier i used to watch 5 50-90sec videos in a row)
yeah agreed bro, that's why i keep my meme videos long (like this one) but i keep the motivational videos short. with stuff like motivation and coding tips what i hated the freaking most was waiting through some dude yapping for like 12 minutes about their life story then getting to the point.
I'd compare Linux flavors more in line with horoscopes. People love to use them, but feel immediately attacked if one little description doesn't fit them personally. lol
I went with Pop to start my Linux journey a couple years ago but six months in I hopped to Debian with no intention of needing anything else or more. Maybe it's some sort of parallel I made subconsciously with my phone choices and the holy grail for "Vanilla Android", but I just like how Debian has this mix of feeling minimal and clean. Pop really does give off that vibe of "Ubuntu for pseudo-intellectuals".
I've distro hopped for years, even trying the more obscure distros such as Mepis Linux, Zenwalk, Tiny Core, etc. I always go back to Linux Mint as it has always just worked. At this point in my life, I don't care to really tinker with the system and just want it to work without issue, so my primary distro is Linux Mint. I may consider trying LMDE.
Before watching this video, there was an ad for H&S shampoo. Not sure what is the connection. I suppose that my linux distro says about me that I don't have dandruff...
I hate snaps but man, Ubuntu is so solid out of the box. I'll probably shift to Pop_OS when they have the Cosmic desktop settled but till then, Ubuntu it is. I wish Fedora still worked on my laptop with the old Nvidia GPU because Fedora is the best, but it is what it is
Void - using a less popular distro won’t make you more popular with people. You think you’re better than Arch users but are actually jealous they have good documentation and you don’t. At least your community is nice, although you’ve never met anyone else who’s even heard of Void Linux, let alone who uses it.
Wow, I'm on Mint and that stereotype can't be further from the truth. I'm actually rather experienced with Linux (10 years under my belt now) and have actually used Arch at one point. I've returned to Mint for the stability and not having to cobble together my OS. It's the only stable distro that matches my desire to not get too in depth with absolutely everything, is stable, and doesn't make asinine decisions in my opinion. I'm quite happy with my choice.
Same. I think mint gets that stereotype because there's always a bunch of people talking about how their elderly parents or grandparents complain about their old Windows 7 or earlier computers being slow and full of malware and asking their techy Linux-loving (grand)son/daughter to fix their computer, to which said (grand)son/daughter sets them up with Linux Mint since the only things they really use the computer for are emails and facebook and it looks enough like Windows that they probably wont be able to tell the difference.
Beginner programmers write simple code because they don't know any better. Intermediate programmers write fancy code because they're not beginners anymore. Expert programmers write simple code that a beginner would write, because they know fancy code is harder to maintain and debug 😆
Same here sister, been using Mint for more than half a decade and I'm the furthest from a conservative old fart. Not sure where he got that stereotype from, never heard of it. Just chalk it up to a dumb joke I suppose.
It really hit hard when he said about Kali. I just installed it a few days ago in a USB for no other reason than to learn hacking... Let me tell you... It sucks unless you know what you are doing.
it sucks when you don't know, but it's so much fun once you do. if you're willing to put in the effort, i definitely recommend learning cybersecurity/kali basics, it's so much fun to learn and figure it out
I haven't used many distros, but Mint is really charming to me. It's easy to read, comprehend and use. You could use it without ever touching the terminal, which is what my mom does since she just uses her laptop for spreadsheets, mail and web browsing.
I run 3 VMs along with 3 chrome tabs on a 13 year old i3 2350m and 2 gb ram laptop. I run ubuntu, kali, arch and windows 10. BTW it all works on a Dell vostro 1550 + ....... But I know how to handle it 😂😂😅💀💀💀💀💀💀
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NO, also first reply
No, I don't think I will
WHO CARES?
Missed oppurtunity: Rhel distro when corporate owns your soul, your routine is 9-5, you like the smell of a cubicle, but like a living wage doing Linux stuff all day :D
Man... Linux Mint users get so much flak for being boring, when in reality I just want my OS to get out of my way and let me use my programs with as little hassle as possible and Linux Mint is the king of doing just that.
Exactly. I've been using Linux since the early 90s, sometimes as sysadmin, mostly as a programmer, and I honestly can't remember how many distributions I've used since then (anyone remember Yggdrasil?). In my old age I have way less bandwidth and just want to write my Rust code. And sometimes run games through Steam and have everything work. And run a Plex server on spare 12yo Thinkpad.
Amen
Real i just use Mint cuz im used to it and just install kde or gnome on top
Yeah, i think it's a problem because Mint has the reputation of a "noob distro"
It is easier than Ubuntu, but it's a good opposite-of-microsoft experience where the OS doesn't get in the way and try to be all things cloudy and fancy.
"just because you can't get a date doesn't mean the West has fallen". Wow.
There is so much to unpack there.. 🥵
can you please explain the jole
feelsbad
I hope it's not about javascript dates we'll never get them
This took me out 😂
Steam OS: You tell everyone that you are using Arch btw.
Steam is arch based?
@@calebshotsauce SteamOS version 3 (the one that runs on the Steam Deck) is
It seems it uses Debian xd
But idk really.
@@gobbledygook5011 steamOS v1 and v2 (shipped on the now discontinued steam machines) are Debian based. steamOS v3 (shipped on the steam deck) isn’t public, and is arch based (look at the steam deck tech specs)
I mean that's why I use arch linux. It's because that's what I got and want to install stuff on my steam deck.
Linux Mint is like what WIndows 7 used to be: a solid OS, no ads or tracking, clean interface and a "set it and forget it" type of experience. I love Linux Mint for that, ever since I switched to Linux I have become a regular contributor to the Mint project and I don't plan to ever change OS.
Yep totally agree 100%... I started computing in the 1970's.. had no problem converting from Windows 7 to Mint, via other distros, wanted something 'stable' with no friction... I'm 76.. 🥳🥳🥳🥳
Well... Why your using linux in first place? Windows 7 is good enough for you. Cause the experience you get is not Linux it's windows 7
@@Hiroxcds You know Windows 7 isn't an updated OS right? lmao
Linux Mint doesn't have the tracking ads and garbage Windows 10 has but it also receives security updates and can run modern applications.
@@Hiroxcds Windows 7 doesn't get security or driver or app updates or any updates at all for that matter lmao. Your performance will be better on Mint especially if you're using new parts which need new drivers to support all the features and get the full speed out of your PC.
What windows should have been
"Linux from Scratch:
You read an entire dissertation just to fail at compiling your own distro 12x in a row, when you got it to work by some miracle you now started to exclusively use Vim in a TTY because you're too scared a GUI will break your system. You were the kid that wrote their school projects in Junior Year in Haskell, you don't shower because you spend all your time internalizing a 200 page PDF and debugging your compile config"
LFS is like aquiring all the parts and building a car yourself and then it is so bad you don't use it.
@@ritosankhohalder9366 Its that one grand tour episode where they drove across mongolia in a car they had to build.
@@deepspacecow2644 LOL i live in mongolia
@@tropicalresolution Have you seen the episode? It was one of the best ones.
@@deepspacecow2644 nah not yet but i might lol
the debian section made me feel personally attacked
It is where all linux users end up eventually but I feel like it is greatly mislabeled in this video. The smarter you are the faster you arrive.
@@ichihaifu I can confirm. Debian is stable and it is almost install and forget (if you have anacron, which is the case for me). I never managed to break debian, whereas a kinda did it with mint by breaking .Xauthority when my pc crashed :/
as a Debian user, i confirm i use physical locks, 4:3 aspect ratio and eat only what directly comes from the farm
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As a person of grandpa age I swipe those attacks away like a mosquito.
"Luke Smith or his deepfake"
that hit way to close home, and I also didn't know you where that deep in the meme lore
his whole channels forms around /g/ knowledge, of course he knows :^)
big box knowing about Luke Smith and Outlaw is ccol af. he's a degenerate like us
THIS HAD ME IN SHAMBLES
What memes? They are pure Linux essence.
@@perseussmith3274 the linux lore...
> opensuse
> doesn't get mentioned
KEKW
Laughing with “kek” is the ultimate sign of a nerd incel.
@@usoppgostoso LMAOAOAOAOAOOA
mascot literally animal that goes invisible
@@usoppgostoso HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Void users in a "my distro wasn't mentioned 🤪" competition and their opponent is an OpenSUSE user:
opensuse = european fedora with ZZZZZypper
Alpine anyone ?
What is Void for?
@@ВиталикКоваленко-н9ж Uses runit instead of systemd.
@@soapy9446, thanks
One underutilized reason why people use Ubuntu is, because of its popularity, proprietary software is often tested on Ubuntu. Meaning when they say "runs on Linux", they mean "runs on Ubuntu".
Agreed, Ubuntu would have been the perfect distro for me were it not for its snap shoving. Their forceful use of snaps is what drove me away from it.
sure but it doesn't mean software will break on ubuntu forks or on debian. or on any distro with the right libs added. And there are things like appimage, snap or flatpack to circumvent the hassle of distributing binaries to the whole linux ecosystem.
Good thing we got Flatpak and Appimage. ^^
Valve will make Arch more popular
3:04 Accurate, I'm literally waiting for Firefox to compile on my main computer and I'm watching this from another device
How many monitors? is the apropriate question here
good luck 🫡 took me 8 hours with a 4 core cpu
just set up some other devices as distcc nodes man...
also set niceness of emerge to something greater than 0
@@ntre. My CPU is also 4 cores (but 8 threads) and only took 1 hour, what did you set your makeopts to?
@@brawldude2656 It's a laptop, so 1
my linux journey: debian -> xubuntu -> debian -> opensuse -> debian -> arch -> clear linux -> debian -> arch
oh wait I forgot fedora, but it has been awful every time. at least the boot is nice
You might like debian
My linux journey is linux mint for 6 months and I've been on debian for the last 2 years.
why did you abandon opensuse?
try nix. it's unbreakable and stable, unlike arch, while still being cutting edge
as a 20 year old (by age) debian user .. yep i feel old af
Hello! grandpa
As a 18 y/old debian user, I feel the same way.
20 year old IT guy, debian on every single server I touch lol
As 20 year SE i use Kali, Ubuntu and Debian
@@StraungeYTi think the video is about clients, not servers.
which software do you want else on servers? (now that the obvious CentOS is missing)
- has FreeBSD icon displayed
- only talked about Linux distorts
- doesn’t elaborate
- leaves
And shoves a long sponsor in our face
As an ex-distro-hopper,
i can personally confirm that all Linux distros are pretty much the same after you configure them to act and look just how you want them.
The only difference in them is how long it takes to get to that point:
PopOS: Almost immediately perfect.
Ubuntu: Takes slightly more time and effort than Pop.
Debian/Fedora: Takes slightly more time and effort than Ubuntu.
Arch/Gentoo/Nix: 20 years and counting, pending completion.
Same. Tried almost everything under the sun. Pop just hit all the right spots with the least amount of effort for me. The only complaint I have is the window tiling is a little bit wonky sometimes. Looking forward to Cosmic.
@@starmechlx Yes the window tiling is bad and the "PopShop" is garbage. I'm excited for Cosmic to improve upon these things. I have extremely high hopes for Cosmic. The demos Ive seem are very promising.
That's what I used to say, but I don't believe it anymore. The distro I daily drive is not the one I'd recommend to a friend, and the distro I run on my servers is not the same that runs in production.
What you might mean is that differences between distros aren't meaningful enough for desktop use, and I agree with that. When you have various use cases, the differences matter.
@@akkesm Yeah if were talking servers and business use-case its obviously a different story. I was just talking about the home Desktop.
I think arch has gotten to the point of being easy to setup because of distros like EndeavourOS which simplify arch a lot without ruining some of its best features like how Manjaro makes using the aur more risky than it already is. Or maybe I'm just biased since I've used arch based distros for a while and can get a satisfactory system running with just an EndeavourOS install.
Someone should make a distro named "btw".
I use BTW, arch
I’d call it “Better Than Windows“ - Linux.
"arch btw linux"
@@jalo4242 ahhh shit why didnt i think of this b4??? thanks bro.
I use btw, btw
BSD on thumbnail is wild
When your main is a headless router...
it was a wee bit of clickbait
@@bigboxSWE
You bastard
@@bigboxSWE Linuxulator exists (but it's just a compatibility layer like Wine, not a full kernel like WSL 👀)
BSD logo is cold
I use linux mint and none of the traits under the mint section describes me. I am a CSE student who just wants stability in my PC and not to get my PC messed up after a software update while having a reasonably good experience using it. I don't care if i use proprietary stuff or not on bleeding edge as long as I get stuff done and not forced to update my PC at critical times.
I do use the terminal and GUI interchangeably.
I don't think people understand the typical Linux Mint user. Is Linux Mint for Grandma? Yes! It's also for millennials who remember how freaking clean Windows XP was and just want to use our computer like we did before Microsoft started adding all these junk features that keep getting in our way. The Linux Mint team understands this, and frankly I think they make the best general purpose Linux Distro out there because they are targeting end users who don't really care how swish their Linux set up is with pointless features to make you look like Neo from the matrix, they just wanna use their programs, like in my case Blender, Gimp, Godot, Codeblocks, etc... where I get actual work done.
You also didn't get that this video is a joke.
As an Arch user I'm far from a furry and hate anime, but at least I'm able to laugh about this.
And as a gentoo user I... nvm
I think people who use mint is the same people who would use debian but with slightly less setup for packaging and stuffs.
@@opposite342 we also have LMDE, really cool twist imo
I like how this in no way helped me understand which distro is actually good for what things.
I love Linux Mint, everything just freaking works and when you destroy something you could just run Timeshift (make sure to make a snapshot first)
If that is what you feel you should just use Tumbleweed instead, btrfs and auto snapshots are on by default, better than Timeshift, and it's not out of date because it's a rolling distro
in b4 prime makes a 30 min reaction video
lmao, we know this is gonna happen
first thing I thought when this showed up
Same here 😂
Lmao called it
2:58, I miss when Mental Outlaw did daily Linux content :(
Luke Smith also still does videos, but you have to go to his website, which I keep forgetting.
@@lamename2010 god damn i though he quit internet
@@BunnyKhatri-pd8zm He hasn't, although videos on his website are still rare. Only one every few months and he seems to be really focused on Monero.
Always glad to see OpenSUSE Tumbleweed managing to dodge all the strays while being the objectively best distro :D
It's not the best
Just like finland, the only thing people knows about it is that it gets no coverage and that it contains the happiest people
systemd :/
💯
This comment would have made more sense before the plasma 6/wayland migration
Hey, good video bro, but I have a question: does anyone here know how to enable all the Excel functions? On my wife's laptop it says that some are disabled.
Try looking for an office key on secure sites with a license that can be used to unlock all its functions
There are many but to save a little time you can use BNH software which can be a good start.
I think it's a good suggestion that can help your wife quite well.
I'll probably check it out in a little while, thanks
Arch with xfce4.
No extra bloat, and a smug feeling after you finally get the bootloader to stop cryung. What's not to love?
>xfce
>no extra bloat
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAH
i use arch btw
I use Arch btw
I use arch btw
I use arch btw
i use debian btw
A r c h b t w
My Linux journey -> Kubuntu -> 5 years pass and someone tells me how cool my arch setup is (never distro hopped)
Me with ubuntu, except I have hoped a bit at the start just to go back
@@WolfiiDog13 tbh I think I'll try to use nixos. I've been using nix package manager on kubuntu for the last 3 months and so far, it's got me where kubuntu old repos fail me
@@WolfiiDog13 same
I’ve hopped for most of my time on Linux, but I generally now alternate between Fedora, Arch, and Manjaro.
5 minutes longer, and we would've entered the stage of using LFS.
I did LFS like 20 years ago, before girlfriends, jobs, wife and kids.
@@privateagent Me too. I still like the idea of it because of what is possible to learn while going through that process, but no one with a life really has time for it. I have used most popular / meme distros at some point in the last 20 years, starting with building Red Hat servers to learn (before it was corporate property). Have used (for short periods) many weird and more obscure ones too, back when they had a little support (Lunar, SourceMage ...).
I work in tech presently and, because I always have work to get done, my daily driver machine runs Pop. Almost everything 'just works' and I have enjoyed tiling window management ever since I first cranked up xmonad many years back.
thank you for the recommendation to low level learning, 30 minutes on that channel and my understanding of low level fundamentals is already remarkably improved, best explanation of void pointers I've ever seen
roughly 30% of this was an ad so, I'm glad i got something out of it
I installed mint on a media PC today. I don't know a thing about Linux. I just needed it to open a browser page and not have the "activate windows watermark".
You can just github a script for that if you dont want to use Linux. But Mint is good too.
very cool bigbox, I use gentoo btw, it can be difficult to be better, sexier, and just smarter than everyone else, it can be lonely at the top
"I use gentoo btw" 😂😂😂.
You made the statement
I was on gen to but changed tu open Suse
No one cares about your USEFLAGS
Gentoo winning against Arch any day
My GNU/Linux journey: Windows 10 -> Gentoo
No, really, I knew about it for years and knew what I was getting into. When I first saw it, it was love at first sight.
bruh
Bro spending 5 hours a day compiling
@@americanbagel Not really. Even though I do have a decently old laptop (7 and a half years old), most things take several minutes at best. The only exceptions are:
- Chromium - takes about 10 hours when I do nothing with the laptop, more if I do something on the laptop (which I can still do, like watching YT, or play some indie games. Haven't tried doing something more heavy, it should still work, but it would most likely be a bad experience)
- Firefox - takes 1.5 - 2 hours since I use clang. Was about 2-3 hours with gcc the first time it was with that, if I remember correctly
- nodejs (sometimes a prereq for Firefox. Why, I cannot tell) - also 1.5 - 2 hours. Fortunately it's quite rare, like I think I've done it 3 or 4 times in the 6 months since I have this system.
Compiling the Linux kernel takes about 45 minutes if it's new. If I compiled it already then I only change a bit, the recompile might take only a couple of minutes.
Yeah, so I only have a bit of stress when I have to compile Chromium.
The CPU I have is i7-6700HQ. I can't wait to have a new modern 6 or 8 core CPU, but I'm very very picky and the next perfect laptop for me, that should also last me 7, preferably 10 years, doesn't exist yet :(. Hopefully I'll be lucky with Framework 16 with Arrow Lake next year.
@@americanbagel WTH, somehow my previous answer was deleted ?
Anyway, I just compiled Firefox 126.0.1 and this time it took exactly 10 minutes for the 4 dependencies and exactly, very very exactly 1 hour aka 60 minutes for the firefox itself. This is the fastest I remember it being done, usually it's more 1.5 to maybe 2 hours.
I'm too lazy to repeat my previous comment, the short gist of it was that most things only take several minutes and the only one that's a bit stressful, usually every 3 weeks or so, is Chromium witch takes 10 hours when I'm doing nothing else and even more if I do other stuff (like YT or light gaming). All others are up to 2 hours.
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For desktop i use debian.
For laptop i use Fedora.
For server i use Rocky.
For container i use Alpine.
For gaming pc: Bazzite
Almost me 100% except I use Fedora on both desktop and laptop. Also use Alpine for my SMB share but many containers I spin up are also built on alpine.
got the virginity part of the video? 😢
Is bazzite better than Nobara for gaming?
W
@@youtube.user.1234gaming in every distro is pretty much the same. Don't listen to those, *choose this distro for gaming blogs*. There are tools that can be ran on pretty much every linux distro that allows for a pretty smooth gaming experience, like Lutris (Wine) and Steam (with Proton). I feel like the only real difference might happen when you have integrated graphics and nvidia dedicated graphics. Nvidia has always been a mess on Linux, i have experienced a lot of issues myself. There are some systems like Fedora in which it is hard to setup things like dynamic kernel modules to manage running both your cpu and gpu graphics.
If i am honest, I started gaming on Linux years ago with PopOS, pretty stable, looks nice, and you go the ubuntu/debian package manager. You should use a distro like that. Nowadays I just play in Arch, it's pretty stable, but Arch is still a bit complicated for new people.
It's a Guy Fawkes mask. It was a Guy Fawkes mask long before it was adopted by the internet.
You forgot KDE neon: In your core you are old and can't handle later things, yet on the other side you love to get into the latest hassle and trouble for no other reason than getting into trouble.
Nailed it 🤪
The Arch section described me far too well. But c'mon, you gotta admit that thigh highs are comfy af
tru.
.....i use Arch btw
I need thigh highs 😔
What should we artix users wear, then?
Too comfy 👀
@@Skelterbane69 Just get the fishnets and get it over with.
Distro-hoped every distro since the '90s until my contractor lent me a Mac and I stopped messing with my machine because I had actual work to do.
Funny when you realize you open the lid, get into an IDE, CLI, and a Browser, and what's below that didn't really matter so much.
sounds like you have adhd
I have the same experience. I can’t say I’ve not been in other types of rabbit holes like nvim, tmux, Zellij, etc.
But unless you’re self employed (and building your own thing with your own machine exclusively), most companies I’ve come across just use Mac. For better or worse.
It’s a lot of effort to sync configs and package lists across Mac and Linux. One less rabbit hole 🙏
good to have debian experience when I need to hop on vms and whatnot, but I highly agree with this take. Mac is just clean af
That's... never been my OSX or macOS experience-as a software developer, my process for setting up a new, fresh macbook involves:
1. Queuing up the 1hr download and install of XCode
2. Configuring SSH and DNS settings to not require ".local" for on-network name resolution
3. Installing brew and miniconda
4. Using one of the above to install non-deprecated versions of Python, git, rsync, vim, tmux and bash (the last I admit is a "me" problem for refusing to learn zsh)
5. Making sure Rosetta2 is properly configured
6. Installing a graphical plaintext editor that actually has syntax highlighting
7. Installing a usable IDE
8. Configuring said IDE for remote development into my Linux box or ec2
(obviously this is hyperbolic, and YMMV, but unless you're developing exclusively for mac, macOS hasn't been good for anything beyond thin client work for years)
@@GSBarlev Xcode is the only bad part I can agree. But after I started using xcodes (Xcode version manager ) it got less painful. The rest is me fetching my dotfiles together with that brewfile that save all my installed packages, $brew bundle install and everything is in place.
Ubuntu. No, I’m not a Linux newbie. I already passed my Vim, i3, and Arch phases. I just want a stable OS to run on my server
...debian? like ubuntu is trash for servers, server is bloated too, also you can't escape snaps.
Alpine Linux in Podman/Docker containers and don't use :latest images and distro does not matter. However I would prefer not try my luck with HW accelerated video playback or wayland on a server. With containers, system inside is basically immutable and your packages do not matter.
@@progCansure, but you can get paid support from canonical.
I personally prefer RHEL since I’m more comfortable with that though.
Ubuntu on servers with snaps makes things a lot easier and it's pretty stable honestly
@@progCan Most Ubuntu users like snaps or are indifferent as long as they work. I'm using them for Firefox, Thunderbird, VS Code, Netbeans, IntelliJ, Chromium, Powershell, Krita, Upscayl, OnlyOffice and more. And Ubuntu Core, a snap only embedded OS has been a thing since 2016. Not saying snaps don't have some problems, but a lot has been fixed to the point where it doesn't matter for the average user. Perhaps you should spend less time on reddit echochambers.
What your Linux distro says about you: That you are running Debian/Ubuntu with a coat of paint
I run Debian and drive a '97 Honda Prelude sitting at a quarter million miles. I have never felt so accurately called out in my life. I do have smart home devices, and I kinda hate them and have thoughts of getting rid of them. I installed a smart thermostat in my house, but I kept the old dumb thermostat around...just in case. My monitors are so old that they don't have and DP or HDMI ports. Only VGA and DVI here.
1:39 as a cuber I don't quite agree with this arrangement; everyone knows that the 1x1 is the hardest cube of all
Good, I am a nobody using OpenSuse
Tumbleweed?
@@sivasanthoshr.m2222 That's the weed I use for a while now.
Leap?
I have both. Leap on my main rig and TW on the laptop. I used to do only TW but you really need discipline with updating even if you have restore snapshots. And no, I don't mind using two versions of Plasma.
@@OzWannabe 😎👍 nice
i use android btw
Custom rom?
@@sivasanthoshr.m2222 No, Chinese spyware unfortunately
@@sivasanthoshr.m2222 It appears that UA-cam has deleted my comment saying "No, Chinese spyware unfortunately"
Can I touch you little cat.@@midi_feline
And you do not sport a neck beard, begone!😅
I love Fedora. It’s the perfect sweet spot between the latest packages of Arch, but with enough stability and the out of the box experience.
Insult everyone on Linux and then, wait for it, a commercial! I now feel brilliant!
therefore, the conclusion is that the video was created to insert ads into it for 1/3 of the video.
I feel like Fedora (and SUSE) are the two distros that are likely to be used when you work with Linux your professional life as well.
Yeah Fedora is the thing that has the latest software but doesn't get in your way. I don't get where he gets that image from.
So true, applies to me
I think also RHEL and other rpm based distros
@@Dhalucario Fedora is literally what happens when IBM sponsors an open source OS, it just feels corporate
2:06
Got offended, then remembered I've been using it professionally lmao
if you had on old dell laptop laying around in you were a RICH 90s kid.
Every distro is fine. But if you pick gnome as your desktop environment that is a warcrime that much be tried in a jury of angry penguins.
"You either use it for professional reasons..." While showing Jia Tan's Github profile sends me to my sides
Man really disappointed you didn't mention the LFS chads
It brings a tear to my eye...
They are so high class that they can't be mentioned along other Linux users.
@@smallcube-zn2mm True
"really"
I did install LFS once along time ago. Had to stop when i felt the urge to tear my own eyeballs out =P Respect to you people..
My Linux jorney: Ubuntu -> Manjaro -> Arch -> Gentoo -> NixOS
Should have stopped at the good one manjaro.
No-lifer detected. Good luck on hopefully losing that virginity in your late 30s.
@@dragonballjiujitsuManjaro has some questionable business practices though
@@opposite342 I really don't care about their business practices. I chose my OS based off of my needs. I have yet to see a tech company with business practices I agree with. But I still use their tech. Just like we are both still using google.
@@dragonballjiujitsu fair enough
2:16 so relatable, mr robot was the thing that actually pushed me to actually learn hacking, i was always fascinated by it, but mr robot was the thing that psuhed me
0:46 i just hopped away from fedora to pop on my laptop a week ago.
I was debating the distro choice for a good while (why the backup was running) and I came to the conclusion that Pop will be the distro, because of all of the mentioned features. So there are some pop users that focus on them
As someone who has used Ubuntu, then mint, then Fedora, then Pop, then NixOS, then Debian, then back to Pop, and now Universal Blue images; I feel like I've just been diagnosed with multiple personality disorder.
I’m currently using Mint, Arch, and Pop so I guess I’m an old furry with erectile dysfunction that doesn’t how to use a terminal.
If you think that's bad, what would that make me? I distro hopped 16 times in 7 months of using Linux.
@@bhargavjitbhuyan9394
It feels like you're suffering from PTSD.
Unlike me, who's hoped between 2 distros multiple times like I'm suffering from dementia
WSL (Ubuntu) -> Fedora + Nix Home-manager -> NixOS😍. My 2yrs linux journey.
As an arch user I see this as an absolute win
As an arch user
Its just fucking lightweight for my old laptop💀
2:55 didn't have to massacre my boy Outlaw like that 😂
nix part seems like a jab at no boilerplate
bro, ngl i like your content, but i'm so used to your 50-90second videos that watching a 5min video feels like i gotta take time out of my day just to watch it(earlier i used to watch 5 50-90sec videos in a row)
yeah agreed bro, that's why i keep my meme videos long (like this one) but i keep the motivational videos short.
with stuff like motivation and coding tips what i hated the freaking most was waiting through some dude yapping for like 12 minutes about their life story then getting to the point.
2:08 I actually am just a furry and installed kali linux because it had a dragon. That was the original reason, anyway.
fair
Been enjoying Gentoo for near 20 years as my primary distro... Even when I break everything and have to rebuild.
Same here, since pre 2004 (need to recall when was the first - on a server I think in 2002, 2004 on desktop and laptops)
I'd compare Linux flavors more in line with horoscopes. People love to use them, but feel immediately attacked if one little description doesn't fit them personally.
lol
0:10 Does Linus Trovald actuallu has a Che Tux tattoo? Thats epic
I went with Pop to start my Linux journey a couple years ago but six months in I hopped to Debian with no intention of needing anything else or more. Maybe it's some sort of parallel I made subconsciously with my phone choices and the holy grail for "Vanilla Android", but I just like how Debian has this mix of feeling minimal and clean.
Pop really does give off that vibe of "Ubuntu for pseudo-intellectuals".
I've distro hopped for years, even trying the more obscure distros such as Mepis Linux, Zenwalk, Tiny Core, etc. I always go back to Linux Mint as it has always just worked.
At this point in my life, I don't care to really tinker with the system and just want it to work without issue, so my primary distro is Linux Mint. I may consider trying LMDE.
Try fedora
@babatona yeah, it's been a while since I used Fedora; I will give it another look.
I use Mint Debian Based, I'm 16 but damm I don't use tik tok... This guy must be a wizard.
any linux user mint that has tried other distros and returned to mint can confirm why we use it:
it just works™
Before watching this video, there was an ad for H&S shampoo. Not sure what is the connection. I suppose that my linux distro says about me that I don't have dandruff...
I hate snaps but man, Ubuntu is so solid out of the box. I'll probably shift to Pop_OS when they have the Cosmic desktop settled but till then, Ubuntu it is. I wish Fedora still worked on my laptop with the old Nvidia GPU because Fedora is the best, but it is what it is
1:20 *disgusted confusion as I play halo ce on my Linux mint Chromebook*
freeBSD is not linux
NixOS was so on point that I thought you were talking to me personally
Soooo in what bracket do I wanna get thrown into after I switched to Linux 🤔
So as a conservative, is this the distro I should use? Is this America’s distro? Basically, which one will guarantee my kids are straight? 1:09
At first I used Ubuntu. Now I use Mint. I am now considering switching to Fedora with KDE Desktop.
What about Puppy?
My dad's a die-hard Linux Mint user. Description checks out.
This is "UA-cam core" with how packed UA-cam references there are
No slackware - just the first distro ever.
You just need to use Slackware once in you life to love it forever...
Installed it first in 1994... Still running it on a couple of boxes...
What else ?
Void - using a less popular distro won’t make you more popular with people. You think you’re better than Arch users but are actually jealous they have good documentation and you don’t. At least your community is nice, although you’ve never met anyone else who’s even heard of Void Linux, let alone who uses it.
I use tumbleweed opensuse because I like arch but it being actually stable, which is just tumbleweed
Last time I checked, Luke Smith used Arch (Artix) not Gentoo.
1:32 That's a lot of miku figurines, I want more more jump one
My linux journey: Ubuntu --> PopOS --> Manjaro + distrobox
you might like ublue
we gotta get prime to watch this
ligmabalzznux lmfao
Wow, I'm on Mint and that stereotype can't be further from the truth. I'm actually rather experienced with Linux (10 years under my belt now) and have actually used Arch at one point. I've returned to Mint for the stability and not having to cobble together my OS. It's the only stable distro that matches my desire to not get too in depth with absolutely everything, is stable, and doesn't make asinine decisions in my opinion. I'm quite happy with my choice.
Same. I think mint gets that stereotype because there's always a bunch of people talking about how their elderly parents or grandparents complain about their old Windows 7 or earlier computers being slow and full of malware and asking their techy Linux-loving (grand)son/daughter to fix their computer, to which said (grand)son/daughter sets them up with Linux Mint since the only things they really use the computer for are emails and facebook and it looks enough like Windows that they probably wont be able to tell the difference.
Beginner programmers write simple code because they don't know any better.
Intermediate programmers write fancy code because they're not beginners anymore.
Expert programmers write simple code that a beginner would write, because they know fancy code is harder to maintain and debug 😆
Same here sister, been using Mint for more than half a decade and I'm the furthest from a conservative old fart. Not sure where he got that stereotype from, never heard of it. Just chalk it up to a dumb joke I suppose.
I'm a Mint user and the Arch description fits me more lol. I just like having a desktop OS I can set up with no bullshit.
10 years? What a rook! I had 10 years of Linux experience in 2005. Mint is just butchered Debian.
It really hit hard when he said about Kali. I just installed it a few days ago in a USB for no other reason than to learn hacking... Let me tell you... It sucks unless you know what you are doing.
it sucks when you don't know, but it's so much fun once you do.
if you're willing to put in the effort, i definitely recommend learning cybersecurity/kali basics, it's so much fun to learn and figure it out
I'm glad to be part of the boring crowd. I just want my OS to work, stay out of my way. I mean, it was either Mint or Gentoo...
My gnu/linux journey: Ubuntu --> Archlinux
According to this video you discovered you’re a femboy or trans.
My Linux Journey: Ubuntu --> Xubuntu --> Ubuntu Mate --> Arch --> Ubuntu Mate --> PopOS! --> Linux Mint --> LMDE
Ubuntu -> Fedora -> Manjaro -> Arch
My journey: Ubunutu Server (via ssh) --> Kali Linux --> Arch
OpenSUSE anyone?
Shh we are chameleon .....we're hidden
*cries in bought a Mac to have a nice terminal without the constant urge to distrohop*
I haven't used many distros, but Mint is really charming to me. It's easy to read, comprehend and use. You could use it without ever touching the terminal, which is what my mom does since she just uses her laptop for spreadsheets, mail and web browsing.
1:31 *wiped off
Every 3 out of 2 arch users are furries.
Damn, for I was about to install Arch Linux for gaming but ended up installing Linux Mint. I'd rather be old than a furry
tiny name drop
my linux journey: nixos -> ... uhh that's it. we've peaked.
4:34 btw I have made a logo for brilliant as a school project
I run 3 VMs along with 3 chrome tabs on a 13 year old i3 2350m and 2 gb ram laptop. I run ubuntu, kali, arch and windows 10.
BTW it all works on a Dell vostro 1550
+ ....... But I know how to handle it
😂😂😅💀💀💀💀💀💀