I Made A Mistake On My BMW...I Was Cheap!
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- In this video I will upgrade my eBay intercooler to a VRSF 5" Intercooler on my 2008 BMW E90 335i with the N54 engine.
I talk about the advantages of the upgrade intercooler and show you what is involved with regards to the installation.
A number of people have asked me over the years if the eBay intercooler I installed is still worth purchasing and if I would do so again. I address that in this video.
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As someone who bit off way more than they can chew with a rat of an E92 project, I appreciate this channel so much. If there are multiple people making videos on the same DIY project, I’m here first every time.
Totally agree. Installing a big intercooler on my N54 was THE best mod, period. No more heat soak, no more limp mode, consistent power. No downside what-so-ever. I went with the VRSF 7" version, which did require a fair amount of trimming inside the bumper (my car was M-Sport, so YMMV). But it wasn't difficult - did not have to remove the bumper - and the trimming was totally invisible from outside the car.
I also installed M3 front lower links and thrust arms. With the adaptive steering, steering response was epic!
How do u trim the shroud without taking off the bumper, am I missing somethjng
@@guccimargiel4127 Removed the undertray and the original intercooler and then there's enough space to work from below. Had the front end up on jack stands. Took my brother and I about an hour - test fitting then trimming - before the larger intercooler fit nicely. I'm not sure about the standard front bumper cover, but the M-Sport front bumper has an insert behind the air opening, and that is the piece that gets trimmed, not the actual bumper cover itself.
the 5 inch stepped fmic is perfect I got mine a couple of months ago and hasnt given me any issues since. Awesome to see you getting the same one!
I did the m3 control on my 328 as well with the tie rods. Crazy difference in steering and like you said cornering is completely different. I recommend this upgrade to anyone looking to swap. FCP sells the m3 arms for cheaper than the OE replacements.
Do they fix for xdrive ?
Finally found a video of someone else that had Active Cruise Control! I was worried about the intercooler interfering with the sensor but glad I'm able to keep it! Great video 💪
Any intercooler is better than stock but if you have the means to spend the money it's 100% worth it. I love my ATM intercooler. And eliminating oem quick connectors is a plus
This came in handy. Just today I thought about what FMIC I wanna buy once I got my misfires and Comfort Access sorted out.
BTW. The quality of your videos gradually improved over the years. I really like them 👌
Thank you!
@@VehicularDIY Hey so I recently watched a video where you said that you have comfort access too. Mine is kind of acting up and I dont want to bring it to the dealer as they are pretty expensive. My Comfort Access doesnt work and neither do functions like comfort opening windows / roof. I looked at Carly and those features are all coded appropriate. Strange thing is that when I put the physical key (thas hidden in the keyfob) and turn it longer, windows and roof open. Any clue what could be the fault here? My error codes dont tell me much either: 00A6CF, 00A103, A10A, 2F4A
If anyone knows anything please feel free to answer as well.
Vrsf 7.5 here with doc race ST kit! Really love vrsf products
Friggin first? 😳 I've got my 6.5" vrsf ready to go. Can't wait to install!
I know, I am repeating myself. But I think you really should think about creating a DIY BMW N54 Digital Manual and offer it for paying customers. I would pay for it, not having to think about it for one second.
- Your recommendations to which parts to change and when
- maintenance
- how to do those things
- which tools and parts are needed
- etc.
I am still waiting for it and I wont stop mention it every now and then 😁
Greetings from Bavaria
Thanks for the update on the M3 control arms.
i could watch your videos all day, i have a 330d, watching your videos is making me want to get an n54 335i
330D is a better bet. If anything a 335D. Would be only thing better. 330D is perfect. I have had n54, n52(n51) and N55. 330D is great car and reliable
@@BMWI-gk9wh yeah i understand what u mean. ive had my 330d thats stage 1 dpf and egr delete and xhp running 330bhp/660nm for 1.5 years now and havent had a single issue with it and the owner before me said he never had a issue for years just services it. it returns 55/60 uk mpg on motorway and around 40 mpg around town and thats not driving like a granny too. i drive it pretty hard sometimes and the lowest the computer has read is 39.2 mpg. and ive put 20,000 miles on it in last year and just happily runs a silky smooth. i like the 335d but the 330d is much more reliable and cheaper to fix if thinga go wrong. if i do get an n54 or maybe a b58 (m240i) ill still keep the 330d for the long trips as shes a workhorse that asks for nothing more than juice, oil/ filter every 6 months and to be driven
Thank you for the oil cooler line update! Just finished my stage 2 lpfp upgrade using your video and a spare bucket. Excited to install it soon :)
Glad to help!
Oh man I still remember the old original ebay intercooler video! That's when I started following and did the same one on my old 335i 😁
Haha nice, it served me well but was really overdue for replacement with the upgraded turbos.
@@VehicularDIY haha yep, I'm an official OG sub 🤟 heck yeah the new one will serve the upgraded twins nicely with that extra volume!
I love my 1k race intercooler! All my bolt ons are vrsf excepts ssr performance dci.
1k? Heck no
@@BmwMe-uh9sy 1,000hp rated intercooler.
Those T-band clamps those hoses ain’t going nowhere👌 nice video!
There is a SMALL bump steer on severe bumps on certain tires or if your front tires arent balanced
very true
If you went with vrsf that says a lot I’d also add why would most want to even go to 7.5 and hack your car up, this size is fine for all the s2 people
When you go 7.5 and see the logs you'd understand LOL. although i am Ps2HF soooo I sorta need it lol.
Nice intercooler brother i like that one! I run the Agency on my 135i. That damn agency intercooler is 700 bucks but the craftsmen ship is unbelievable. The boxes are piling up of everything to finish my car. My video will be coming out in april or May. Just a bunch of things i wanted to do my way & a little different than everyone else. Good luck with this engine & make sure everything nice & warm with this one. Hope it holds up nice...👍
Nice, look forward to watching it! Thanks!
@@VehicularDIY Thanks brother, glad everything went smooth & she's back on the road...👍
You have to get a quick jack man!!! I finally pulled the trigger on a 5klbs model. On sale at Costco for 1199 with everything you need. Normal price 1400-1500. You should hit them up! Maybe they can get you a discount for the channel 👍🏽
I love my 6.5 in AMS intercooler. Expensive as fuck but I've never seen a jump in temps pull after pull after pull
I'd like to thank you for all these videos. The thorough, patient and knowledgable approach you take to your videos are things that other channels simply don't have. Keep going!
I'm sure your E90 already has the extended lighting package, but if you know about how they're set up I'm very curious to understand how the wiring for it works; I'm hopefully looking to do a factory-standard retrofit of that package
I don't believe my car has it, can you elaborate? Do you have a link?
@@VehicularDIY Can't find a link explaining it properly but it's basically lights for the vanity mirrors; front footwells; under each door card; LED puddle lights underneath the door handles, along with ambient (orange dot) and map lights for the rear interior, similar to the front. I believe in the US you have some of these elements as standard (I'm in the UK :D)
DUUUUUUDE, RELOCATED INLETS NEXT! LOL
Smart move, great video and excellent explanation! The Chinese e-Bay IC was a poor design compared to the VSRF. I have a VSRF as well (except I bought the 7.5 race version because, well, who knows). Yes, I have to cut a bunch of plastics, but if I MUST remove materials, I'd rather it was mild plastic like this stuff. The 7.5 is a tank, and it's very heavy. But very well designed and the accessories are quality as well. Excellent video Musa! --Steve #weltspeed #projectweltspeed
What is your opinion on intercooler connections.... silicone tube vs oem style? Do you think silicone connections have any benefit over oem click type connections...
Im planning on upgrading my intercooler on z4 35i... and i kind of cant decide on vrsf vs csf 5.5inch intercooler... csf is good and said to be the best n54 intercooler right now.... but it has oem style connections... car is otherwise stock but i am getting an aluminum chargepipe to go with the intercooler and downpipes aswell to run stage 2+ map. Maybe i will do inlets further down the line... but im not planning on going crazy with the power. Simple FBO stuff.
Any insights?
Water to air intercooler, try that. May help with hot air intake a lot.
Excellent video with thorough explanation. Question about the aligment: Was it done at an independent shop and if so any special precautions with the active steering? Thanks?
It was done at Firestone, most independents don't have the ability to align cars equipped with active steering. Thanks
Also, you should epoxy your garage floor, not just for aesthetics, but also it protects against oil and fluid spills
Yeah I'd love to do that as well.
@@VehicularDIY Well it should only cost around $1000 to $1500 to do your garage floor. You spend more on all those parts for your car
Nice video :) I would love to see some numbers in comparison with the eBay intercooler. Best would be to compare new with new because with oil in the old intercooler it's not fair. Futhermore is there any difference in throttle response? Anything else you noticed? (...)
Thanks, as far as I can tell it feels like it holds a little more HP up top but I need to get it on a dyno for sure.
My kit came with some rubber grommets, did yours? It also seemed like the bolts were to skinny for the holes on the intercooler and i thought the grommets were there to be used as a washer in between the screw and the intercooler but they were way to thick and wouldnt allow the screw all the way through. I ended up just using some copper washers and it has worked good so far. 🤷
It didn't just the two screws. But they seemed to be appropriate.
Great job! Also is it painful to move to Texas from Western Canada? This time we are loosing all jobs here and I just got a job offer in Texas. Thank you
If you landed a job in Texas they may offer to pay for the move. It would probably cost you around $5000 if you drive down all the stuff yourself. You should really consider it.
@@VehicularDIY Thank you!
Looking to upgrade my intercooler on my 335i from stock to this vrsf intercooler. Do you need a tune after installing or could I just run it like that? Or would I need a tune after installing the down pipes?
I've got to come see this garage in person. We have got to do a collab video !!!
Haha your channel name is awesome. You're in Houston?
@@VehicularDIY haha I get that a lot. My wife came up with the name, I really can't take any credit. Yea I'm a little north west of Houston. 290
Thanks for sharing. In the future I will go for a Wagner Evo1. It's the same as the VRSF but for me much cheaper . It's German so I can get it here without alot of shipping and custom costs. Dutch regards, Nico.
Nice, makes sense to avoid shipping from too far away.
Wagner kwam op een test van mosselman alleen niet al te best uit de bus. Ik weet niet of je die test gezien hebt
@@jmx8453 oh. I didn't know that. I will do some research. Thanks!
Gonna have to try to install my CSF intercooler by taking the bumper off since I couldn't get it to fit at all. Apparently you still have to cut the plastic to get it to fit...........
Yeah considering how easily the bumper comes off it could save you some struggling.
Installed this on my e92 N55 during the weekend. It has to be said that the thing is heavy!! I guess the weight comes from the cast end tanks. I felt some unease about mounting it with only two 6mm screws into plastic... :/
Yes it's pretty heavy but even my cheap eBay one was pretty heavy.
Great job with the DIY guys! Do you mind if we link this DIY on our website?
Sure np!
When are you going to do a suspension, rear subframe & sway bar DIY - maybe b12 kit?
Next few months and my change out the rear diff.
Why not just get a 7in intercooler and have way more charge cooling capabilities?
Mostly due to the active cruise control.
does your oil take longer to warm with bigger fmic thinking of getting one
No it doesn't.
I definitely get bump steer with m3 arms and I've tried multiple tracking settings, it's a nightmare, the feeling is just poor. Currently running E93 oem setting just with the extra negative camber up front and it's the 'best' I've managed to get it. Did you remove the pins on your top mounts to achieve that camber?
No did not remove the pins. What size tires are you running up front?
@@VehicularDIY 235/35/19
I have -1.23 front left and -1.09 front right camber, the pins don't allow any adjustment I thought
Can you do a tune update on the efficiency difference?
Also, do you tune? Jw. I'm in the area and if you can I would love to bring my car to you mate. 😊
I kept the same tune, the afr didn't really change. I don't but I use Ken from Wedge Tuning.
@@VehicularDIY thanks. Your channel is awesome mate.
What specs did you have them align to when you had it done for the M3 arms. Did they just put the m3 specs on for the e90 M3? Outside of the -1.3 you mentioned.
It was 335i specs but I asked them to go as negative as they could and they hit 1.3. I've heard some cars can get to 1.4 or 1.5.
Why did you take off the front
Bumper to change the inter cooler lol
I have a question for you. If your oil filter housing broke and needs to be changed, does that mean your oil cooler has to be changed too?
Not necessarily, I changed mine due to my old engine failing.
@@VehicularDIY I see. I have to change my oil filter housing because I broke it trying to put my alternator on. I asked my mechanic how much would it cost to fix it and he told me 1100 due to needing a new engine oil cooler too. I know some oil went into my antifreeze reservoir but that's it. Thanks for responding.
qq, not sure if i missed it in the video but why did you go with 5" instead of the 7.5"? Trying to figure out which one to buy myself
To keep active cruise control and given my power goal is 550 whp thr 5" version should be plenty.
@@VehicularDIY thanks man!
Hi, how much different is your intake air temperature before and now compared to ambient? Mine is about 9 degrees higher than ambient when on the the freeway but about 20 degrees more on city street driving with stop signs and traffic lights
On the Dyno under load it was 10 to 12 above ambient on the third run. At 24 psi.
Would recommend ATM over VRSF. One gets pretty much for what one pays. Almost anything above a cheap Chinese cooler is better than stock.
Have you ever considered investing in a Quickjack portable lift? Costco Canada keeps sending me emails showing the 7,000lb lift for $CAD1299 shipped.
Yeah I have, I really need to get on that actually.
Do you have to drain the coolant before your perform this install?
nope, only air flows through it :)
What are the "active cruise sensors" ?😊
Always quality!
Ive been wanting to get a new intercooler and I'm between the 5 and the 7.5.
Would the 5 be sufficient for me at 21 pai on stock turbos? Not really planning on any more power mods
Yeah the 5 should be plenty for that imo.
Would you suggest running a catch can before putting on the intercooler? I have ARM 7.5 stepped ready to go in I just don’t want to put any unnecessary oil running through it
I wouldn't think it's required. It would take years to get a small build up of oil in the hoses on a heathy motor.
Nice upgrade! But you should really fix the gap between the bumper/kidneys and the hood!
Yeah I want to replace the bumper with one in better shame and change the brackets and screw mounts etc.
Awesome vid I've been going back and forth trying to figure out what FMIC to get haven't really found any VRSF temp charts it would be awesome to get a quick video showing those if you wouldn't mind! Because I hear VRSF is basically chinese made and that the core and fin design isnt that great compared to others. But I would just prefer to make my decision based off results rather than hear say.
Thanks! I plan on a dyno video, I'll show my long.
@@VehicularDIY very much appreciated and looking forward to it and more vids!
Hey do you guys know if this will be any different installing on a 5 series??
e60 n54
I used the ARM intercooler and never gad issues with heat soak. Bro whats the backgroubd music. Soothing and i need it
Lookup an artist named Dreem, they make copyright free music.
Just a wander do you code?? I have a e90 and need it coded, I'm in sugurland. I sure you have a iCarly
I don't offer coding but have made some coding videos. I typically just use NCS Expert.
Man, I'd love to get that IC. That's what I'm missing. I took out that stock one when I changed the radiator and what a piece of junk!
thankz for tha awesome video
The screws on my vrsf didn't line up well..
I sent them an email day of install they never replied..
VRSF is a horrible company indeed
I have a question when you can, everytime i hit bumps on the highway my car jerks or hops real hard and feels like it will go out of control, yet it handles great on turns, but if you hit a bump you can hit the wall. What can that be?
I had a broken strut spring on a VW once that showed those symptoms. Happened short while after hitting a pothole the size of a bathtub hidden under the snow!
Check your alignment and damper settings (if you have adjustable damper settings).
@@TML34 Yea I'm a have to do that, the car handles like a champ on smooth surfaces but a bad harsh bump on turn im all over. Thanks for the advice.
@@MarioDallaRiva Ha ha bathtub, yea i get those alot here in Jersey and actually my job is to fix them but i do complete streets, so a broken strut spring, let me note that thank you.
Yeah your alignment might be way out.
Do you get your car aligned as a m3 or just a 335
As a regular 335i and told them to set the camber as negative as they could which ended up being 1.3 negative on both sides.
Your new intercooler Looks exactly the same as my ebay one
How much did it run you?
VRSF is just a China reseller. You can get these anywhere.
700 nzd including shipping from Australia to New Zealand- direct conversion is 500usd. Veaf was going to cost 1400usd at the time including shipping
Apprec this vid bro 🏃♂️.. thx
Are you on factory struts and springs?
I am yes
Fun stuff
How do you keep the car suspended like this?
Its' got jack stands sitting on the jack pads upfront.
You selling your old intercooler?
You can shoot me an email on it, you'd need new couplers and after you paid for that and shipping not sure it would be worth buying a used one? But feel free to send me an email.
Good morning, how much psi can you run with the helix
If you're on upgraded turbos you could probably push max 28 psi but 24 psi is probably where you'd want to be a on a stock block.
@@VehicularDIY thank you !!!!!
I've been noticing... how come you don't buy yourself one of those quick jacks? The type of work you do on your car, you could use those! Would make your work easier for you
Yeah I need to get on that.
Could that fit on my 330d m sport E90 2008
I do not believe it would due to where the couplers end up.
Vehicular DIY would you let me take that old intercooler off your hands for say $100 plus shipping?
If the person that's interested in it falls through I would but I'd only charge you shipping.
@@VehicularDIY that works for me. Just let me know.
@@VehicularDIY did they end up getting the intercooler?
I would be careful ordering from vrsf with their recent track record. You can get a Chinese 7.5 for similar money
Vrsf is Chinese, too
Thanks bro!
Will you Dyno test it?
I will
@@VehicularDIY I wonder how much power it will make now everything changed and a new motor.
Bigger pipes need more lube😉
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The welds look horrible.
Seemed to be about what is typical for these intercoolers. They'd likely be more expensive if the welds were super pretty.
I got n51 so why am I watching this
Send me a message if you can I see you will be needing tires soon I think I can hook you up with some
VRSF?
Still very cheap😂
Can i have your old intercooler😂
If you don't mind paying for the shipping and you want to buy new couplers from China you could make it work. Shoot me an email.
Whats your email?
I cannot recommend VRSF to anyone. Horrible company. Bad support! Get your same stuff directly from China! Kinda disappointing you featured a video about them.
I also think that putting a max HP stamp on an intercooler is very wrong. You want IAT to be as low as possible always.
bmw are cheap too bro 😭
Lol yeah that's the problem with these cars they are $5000 cars so it's hard to justify spending the money needed to do it proper.
@@VehicularDIY personally i believe that you know a car is really good when such a car has endured over time or it has passed all weather testing - for instance the kias, my friend got an spectra 4 cyl from the dealer back in 2000, that car just had regular tune ups on time, thermostat & pcv valve r/r, ps pump & radiator, suspension & struts and motor mounts & axles rebuilt & t belt svc during its life time and that car feels like a new car - that is an incredible soft ride 🤠
Sind Sie Deutsche?
You talk a lot❌👎
That's why he has so many subscribers everyone wants to listen 👂
Good stuff. I bought the same and it is so simple, my IATs are really good as well. Running TD04 17ts with 500ho at the wheels.
Luck with the twins? I’m thinking of doing upgraded twins until I can have the time for a single
@@titan7275 no issues with the larger twins as yet mate. Boost comes on maybe 500rpm later but holds all the way to redline. Peak power is near redline with torque peaking at maybe just under 3,000rpm. That's on Australia's 98octane and 20psi peak, so not pushing them that hard really.
@@cocko1135 should post up some videos, I keep doubting the top end power of the twins, but if I can go upgraded twins for a fair price and make decent power until I can go big I’d be okay with that
@@titan7275 fair enough mate. I have been meaning to a video update, just really busy (60-70 he weeks at work suck!).
However I think that the larger turbos would flow around 200cfm more than stock, hard to find exact figures though... Just going from Mitsubishi turbo efficiency graphs for td03 vs TD04, X2 of course.
Check out ZerotoSixty channel, in my subscriptions, friends from near me, although they run ethanol in theirs.
@cocko - so you have the 5” instead of 7.5” with aftermarket turbos? Everything I read says 7.5 if going for 500 hp. I would prefer the 5” to mitigate the cutting, etc. but wasn’t sure if it would be enough if I ended up going aftermarket turbos down the road.....
Still waiting to install the version you just removed, lol.
Had it for months.